Is the NEW iPad Pro worth it?
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My question is if you are going to spend up to $3000 on an very large Ipad with a keyboard... why not just buy a laptop.
Because you already have a $3000 lap top and PC? That’s my logic. June 4th delivery
I mean it's pretty much a mini MacBook Pro with a pen and touchscreen, and the MacBook Pro with max specs is $8k... so if I had to choose between the 2 I'd probably go for the iPad...
I been iPad only for 3 years paid 2k for everything with the m1. I use it everyday so I think it was worth it. I have a pc for file management and some programs but I prefer the simplicity of the iPad without all the clutter and having the Apple Pencil is crucial for my photography editing. So mainly for work the iPad is better and more friendly for clients to use.
@@DavidSoczewka it’s a mini macbook pro that’s worse in every way exept for the screen. its just no where near as capable as even a macbook air. its still a tablet that only shines for artist and people who love watching movies. this is absolutely no where near as capable as a mac, it has some mac apps but they are way better on mac anyway
@@johnpoe3012for production its a boon. portable remote multi-feed monitor, the ability to walk around and use it on set like a clipboard, and the pencil for masking photos and videos, graphic illustration etc. all the toptier professional software is on it, even hollywoods Resolve. if I bought a wacom or cintiq just to use with my gaming laptop it easily goes over 4k in total. these things perform as powerfully as their desktop countrrparts, which is pretty insane given its weight and size and ease of use, which i prefer for my workflow.
that one rich friend that buys the nano-textured glass 💀💀💀
The lack of compatibility with the Gen 2 Apple Pencil and (probably) lack of compatibility with the existing Magic Keyboard on the 11” M4 Pro makes it a hard no for me. I’m not dropping another $300 for another keyboard. Like I hate being that guy, but that’s ridiculous
This is a valid point. Shouldn't have to replace it, even if it's better, it's not $350 better.
It’s even more bizarre when the usb c is compatible. That means that the real issue is the magnets or charging, not the pencil tech. Apple didn’t want to bother with charging compatibility.
It’s because the camera position.
@@RaymondSolomonFL Oh, good point, macrumors had a discussion on that. It’s quite a convenient excuse though > >
Brokie 😂
just bought my 256 GB M1 Air. I am happy.
Good choice. I have one for a couple of months and it is awesome. Now i only use my ipad. I use my iphone really rare
When? For how much
Cause for 256gb the new air is 50$ less with a better processor, and the MK is the same, the only thing you have to get is the pencil pro
U made a very bad deal idk why are u happy lmao
Nice. I ordered the 11 inch iPad Pro.
It's so thin, I can see jerryrigeverything snapping in with no difficulty
The iPad Pro trailer saying "the thinnest device Apple has ever made" or whatever. He's going to snap it in half like a twig.
The same way he handles 15 year old girls in his hot tub.
It’s comparable in thickness to the galaxy tab s9 ultra, which he couldn’t snap. So def too soon to tell.
That’s how I feel with all these ultra thin devices. Seems too fragile, would definitely get a case.
In general I like weight reductions, but I don’t like thickness reductions (less durable in general, harder to hold, runs hotter in general).
@@JustDestiny260the difference is the s9 ultra is built with structural integrity whereas ipads are built to fold like trash paper 😂
iPads are the tablet version of fully loaded $100k trucks that stick to the pavement and never haul anything heavier than 5 bags of soil or boxes of girl scout cookies.
So few consumers actually utilize the product to its fullest and could easily have saved hundreds, if not thousands, just to babysit their children with a TH-cam playing device.
I mean does anyone use products to their maximum potential? Very rarely. Its like having a lambo are people racing it daily or just flexing it
true..underutilized powerful hardware...
Yeah dude, cause you drive 120mph on your car right? Most every product ever sold aren’t used to their full potential.
underutilized hardware..ROI is very questionable
Bro, think about all the “milspec” man toys lying around garage, attic, drawers, etc….. Maybe it’s just sometimes “feels” that matter.
the base storages ipad pros are a binned M4 version with less cores. You need to go up to 1TB to get the full 16GB and unbinned M4
The M4 line up is releasing faster than their yearly products 😂
All i want is a Ipad Mini Pro. I like taking notes and i dont wanna whip out this massive ipad to write on.
“Super smart siri, rather than dumb Siri” 🗿
Siri: 👁️ 👄 👁️
I feel like the consumers that won are those who are gonna get the 13 inch air - big size, 128gb minimum memory, pencil hover, landscape camera, works with the old keyboards which will now drastically drop in price and on top of that you can use it with the new apple pencil which really is a step-up. Not to mention that they are probably not upgrading the pencil anytime soon. So you’re getting a really future-proof device.
Yes but he sadly has only 60hz display
1000% I was waiting for an air update, had my fingers crossed but was fully expecting it to start with 64, 128 was my deciding factor! 64-256 being the only options is criminal, 128 makes way more sense cost wise
No, the consumers who win are the ones that save their money
On the other hand, for $999, a baseline iPad Pro with a 120hz oled screen, how long could that last you? I mean, a brand-spanking-new M4 chip that is “not being fully utilized due to iPadOS” could probably be supported for a good while. In fact, some people reported that their iPad Pros from 2018 are still running as well as back then.
Not them having the mini,air, and pro all on the table talking about prices 😂
"ad another iPad to your fleet" 😂
Have never owned an iPad even though I've long toyed with the idea of getting one simply because I've been craving a new graphics tablet. I never got great at drawing in general, but I had fun waaaay back in the day with a giant Wacom. So the appeal of drawing directly on a screen has been in the back of my mind, and I think this new M4 iPad Pro with Pencil Pro is the combo I've been waiting for. I can't imagine I'll be doing a lot of other stuff with the iPad because I have a MacBook Pro and a desktop PC (hooked up to my home theater), so my media consumption and productivity needs are already satisfied. This would really just be about having a nice drawing tool.
Still doesn't run Mac OS; no windows. Thinner, until you put a case on it, which you don't generally do to a MacBook, since the screen is protected when closed. No compelling reasons to upgrade from an earlier one for most people with one. The new pen has a little more capability, if you need it. So, do you upgrade to stay leading edge current, or wait until something really new comes along?
Your point? It’s not made to run MacOS then you will need a mouse. Dumb comment trend.
Battery life wasn’t mentioned in the announcement…….hmmm. I’d have been much happier if they had kept it thick and increased battery life by 30%. I’m almost power tethered to my 11 inch iPad Pro 3rd generation and am not happy with it.
this was wondering y they didn't mention battery...
Battery life is the same 10 hours its been for years now. Which is to say - it barely lasts a day.
I haven’t upgraded my iPad Pro sense I bought mine back in 2017 but to me I think it’s time to upgrade. The price is meh but I use mine for my artistic side hustles and I didn’t regret the investment back in the day. My 2017 model has been an absolute trooper but it’s definitely showing its age imo.
I think the iPad pros and airs are made for artists, graphic designers and light video editors above all else. As an illustrator and graphic designer myself I bought the m1 iPad Pro, sold it and downgraded to the 2020 model since I thought it was overkill at the time at double the price. The new iPad pros however I think are worth the upgrade, especially if app makers like procreate and Final Cut continue to take advantage of the hardware moving forward
I have the same model. I definitely wanna change the battery, I guess I’ll try to stick with it for the next couple of years.
I recommend the M1 iPad pro or even the 2018 or 2020 iPad pro since they are still very good.
You can get another 2 years out of it easily
The price is about the same. If you have the 11 inch it starts at $999. So the price did not change. And that includes all the features and more storage
I like how this is Matt and Austin talking about the Switch 2, but the reverse uno card was played, lol
We need a revisit video on the iPad 10th gen, since I remember no one really liking it when it was first presented (myself included) but at $350 it seems like a really good choice right now, I might even get one just for media consumption and note taking
Apple just make a hybrid ffs
It's profitable for them to limit consumer choice.
Guess we will have to wait till WWDC to see what’s in store for the iPad
My 9th gen Ipad is happily waiting the software update!
@@jayh40515 oh yeah 👍 keep using it if you’re happy with it !
But as a photographer, more performance and faster rendering times in Lightroom would be nice coming from a M1 iPad
Get an 11” iPad Pro 2018 for under $400. Unbelievable value at that price.
Was 2018 gen 1 or 2? I actually liked the gen 1 more than the gen 2, speakers were wayyyyyy better.
Go for the gen 1 and get maximum savings lol.
@@somelolplayer6199 Gen 2. First one with the current design language. I have the 12.9” and it’s still rock solid.
@@peterfconley I’m also on the gen 2. Had the gen 1 until it suffered a crushing accident 😬
Good screen, but those gen 1 speakers hit different.
Curious how gen3 / gen 4 speakers stack up.
@@somelolplayer6199 It is gen 2, gen 1 is 10.5 inch. But ipad pro 2018 also called gen 1 11' inch ipad pro as it is the first 11 inch ipad pro, which is quite confusing lol.
10:52 if they don’t update the OS as they should the video you should make is the 2018 iPad Pro vs 2024 iPad Pro and see what it enables AND for a bonus round add the M1 iPad Pro (refurbished) and see if it has the same performance, app access and features as the 2024 iPad Pro.
PLEASE MAKE THIS VIDEO
I have the 2018 too! May upgrade to this! But all wait till WWDC to see what if any AI software for M4
I’m in the same boat I’m still using my 2018 iPad Pro. But I think I’m going to upgrade to this one as I don’t see my iPad 2018 being future proofed any more. But I’m still in top minds being that thin is scary. I thought the thickness was perfect
My 2018 still kicking butt fast 💨 may wait another year.
The base model Air 6 went down in price considerably in my local currency, compared to previous generations, so that’s nice.
Never thought I’d see a macOS error with a Windows error sound
what about the issue of the OLED being gated by apps, like NETFLIX, HBO max, blah blah
is that IPAD going to be the resolution of 4K?
If it's not 4k is there a real reason to even have OLED?
you don't need 4K to experience good OLEDs
And Again...
"No Dual USB-C'S" ...
With All That Power...
🤔🤣😎🧐
short answer: nuh uh
Lol. That’s the default answer for every Apple product.
Shorter answer: NO
@@Daniele-PierreDuLac😂😂😂
Only reason why I got the iPad Air and not the 10th gen iPad is the anti-reflective coating and the future-proofing for many updates years to come.
You are the BEST comedy show! Those that actually USE the iPad are giggling at your “vision”.. thanks for the laughs!
You really don’t need an external keyboard. The reason you use iPad Pro is the touchscreen experience. If you just plop your iPad Pro 13-inch on a keyboard and use the touchscreen 10% of the time then you might as well get a mac. You are wasting your money. The touchscreen experience is so refreshing coming from a windows user for half my life. I use the on-screen keyboard. I love Touching and moving my documents, spreadsheet, playing the piano, guitar, making music, just doing everything on the 120hz touchscreen display. That is the reason why iPad is so popular. The mac is not that. It’s good but it’s ancient like Austin. Kidding. Love ya Austin.
Agreed. I’ve never once tried to use a keyboard and I’ve been using iPads since the first generation. It’s perfect for traveling, minimizing workstation areas, quick adjustments that don’t require PC access, bedside (which I’m doing now lol), and more!
Eh. My M1 Air is performing nicely. iPads I feel like most people only upgrade after like 7 years when it’s barely clinging to life. Only reason I would consider upgrading is for more storage. My Air is 64GB and while I can get by, I do have to keep it very clean. I’m glad to see that 128 is now the base option, but even that is getting a little low nowadays.
Matt being like General Grevious over here, probably thinking "your iPads will make a fine addition to my collection!"
It’s just sad how iPad mini is treated like a step child. They didn’t even show it on the lineup and only very briefly mentioned at the very end. It’s clear they are unfortunately killing the mini because of the new significant lower price of the 10th gen iPad. It makes it wildly cheaper than a mini….cannibalizing that line, painfully. iPad mini is the definition of what a tablet is suppose to be for the general consumer.
They’re gonna update the mini be patient stop bitching like a child
No, and neither can starving artists and musicians.
The two versions of the M4 p, the unnecessarily thin iPads sacrificing
battery capacity and heat dissipation is insane.
iPad line up is messy and many will just buy last gen used to save money.
The new apps are very niche…
Where’s the Mini, Timmy?
After 14 years, Apple has finally made an iPad model with an OLED display. Only took them over a decade to catch up with Samsung. 😂
when will samsung catch up with apple's m4?
Samsung chip will took a century to keep up in performance💀
Well, well, well, look at the iPad Pro thinking it's all that with its iPhone operating system. Samsung's out here doing a whole lot more than what that iPad could even dream of! It's like the iPad Pro's trying to be a laptop, but Samsung's got its own Pad game going strong. Apple's iPad Pro? Just a supersized version of the iPhone, talk about underwhelming!
Speed? F , your so uneducated
When will Samsung tablet sales catch up though…
@@chachinitom4 can do what😂😂😂
The Air is usually my favorite. Usually used
I was hoping for new iPad Mini’s
Just bought the maxed out ipad today 13 inch, just so i can watch movies in OLED😂
I am still using the iPad Air 2 with 128g and cellular, should I upgrade to the best 13 inch iPad Pro 2tb?
I would love the pro but not interested in the keyboard at all. Been using the 2017 pro model since it came out and as an artist I’ve done a ton of projects on it. I would love the new pencil too, this one I have sucks with constantly having to plug it in to charge it. With oled display and the brighter screen, maybe I can finally do some plein air painting on a sunny day.
Careful, if you want the best M4, you need to get the 1TB or 2TB model... Add a pencil and a keyboard and it's more than the Macbook Air.
Do you keep switching to the side camera just to screw with Austin so he is looking at the wrong one?
Dude, an unrelated comment but when Austin said, "If you are unfamiliar with TOPS..." and he kept talking very slowly. I was like
Gurl, at this point, I AM unfamiliar with tops, have you check Grindr lately? 😅😂
You don’t need the iPad Pro with the keyboard. Ask yourself what you need the keyboard for and if you already have another device that covers that. For example 2D and 3D artists, designers and Architects may not use the keyboard that much.
Ehh I have a cheap keyboard that I use when I take the iPad on the go as an artist/I don’t have to lug around a laptop as well (I’m an artist)
Both M2 and M4 have a 16-core neural engine. There is only a difference in speed but I think that things will be fast on both.
I have an iPad Air 5th gen and a 2nd gen pencil. I see absolutely 0 reason to upgrade, to be honest. Seeing more baseline storage and a landscape camera is nice, though. The landscape camera existing under the pencil dock is hilarious as it either means it took them that long to figure out how to do it, or they were just being Apple with the 10th gen iPad.
iPad mini was the best purchase I’ve made. Fits the purpose of a handheld device.
I remember thinking the same sentiment. Bigger isn’t always better. The regular sized iPad was/is for big athletes, business & the medical profession. The average person can hold & operate a mini just fine.
The mini has low screen brightness and its battery blows. Plus, when I want to really watch a movie I want a big screen. Nothing better than chillin in my car with the big display connected to my sound system watching a movie
Just picked up the 10th Gen iPad! It’s so underrated especially at its new price
The Apple way move with the CPU difference between storage memory is crippeling. Sticking to my M2 11 inch Pro for years
It is always best to get the cheapest ipad available because the power of the expensive ipads are heavily limited by the operating system.
11:10 He said Zephyrus G14 and I perked up. I love mine so much
I watched many ipad videos now and just realized the pro oled says PRO in the oil like wallpaper
Generally speaking I don’t think year to year or every-other-year upgrades are worth it anymore and I think that’s fine. Personally I’ll upgrade my 5 year old ipad pro since I it’s time and as an artist there are multiple appealing feature, but won’t be upgrading again for another 5+ years
I ordered the M4 iPad Pro w/1tb regular glass and the the new apple pencil Pro. I have been using the m1 iPad Pro with 1tb since it's been released and it's slowing down and starting to overheat. I use Lightroom, photoshop and Adobe Premiere on it for about 8 to 10 hours a day. I prefer it over my Mac PC because photo editing using the touch screen is so much faster than using a trackpad I figured not to get that Nano textured glass because I'm just going to put a screen protector over it to protect my investment I bring my iPad everywhere when I go on photo shoots
As time has passed, I've found fewer uses for my ipad pro and more for my laptops. Now I just use my ipad mini for reading.
Try drawing
I still use my 7th gen iPad everyday and really enjoy it. I haven’t had a reason to need an upgrade.
Well, how long would my 11-inch M2 iPad (512G) last? It began to feel the slightest bit of productive ONLY AFTER I’ve embraced Obsidian into my workflow…
Did you notice on the pros the lower storage options get a weaker chip then the one or two terabyte versions😮
Omg they didn't mention this😢
What do u mean bro? They dont get the M4 chip?
With the new M chips, Apple will get rid of the MacBook's all together. People were asking for touch screen macbook, well here it comes.
If they enable macOS on the new iPad pros it will be very very tempting…
Most people should get either the base iPad or the air at most
Traded in my older iPad Pro for a new iPad Pro. Always wish it was less but it isn’t. Being able to connect a drive to it is a big deal for me. Will order one along with pencil and keyboard .
I'm still on my first generation iPad. Should I upgrade?
No i good for a few more centuries bruv
Would you buy a M1 iPad Pro from Apple refurbished with 256GB for 619 bucks?
I'd like a video comparing the 2024 ipad pro to the 2018 one.
At least they finally killed the lightning ipads off. The cheapest ipad finally has USB-C.
The thinness will definitely be one of the most noticeable feature I would think. That and the weight reduction.
It's annoying that I'd have to get the 1TB one to get the 16GB of RAM...I think WWDC will be extra important this year because it will be hard to justify with the limitations of ipadOS... unless it's opened up next month...
You don’t need 16gb 😂
I’m not buying an iPad until it can duel boot iOS and Mac iOS. What is all this power for? I have a 2014 iPad Air. It runs Netflix and TH-cam just as good as these.
IMO the new iPad pros should have macOS. At this point almost any M series chip is basically overkill for iPadOS. They just need to make a the iPad Pro a tablet macbook with a magic keyboard and touchscreen.
With the cost of the iPad keyboards I don’t know how they sell a single product….when you can build a custom keyboard for the same price or less and you get something that thocks, is wireless, can be used on multiple setups, and is surely a better typing experience - many times for less than $200 let alone $300.
I just bought a ipad pro 6Gen m2 and iam happy 😊
What do you guys think 💭
3600 USD for the fully spec'd 13" new iPad Pro is just ridic AF!
For 3600 USD, you can get a high end gaming rig, a full computer that can run modern AAA games with high resolution and high details... it doesn't matter how "good" the new iPad Pro is, that kind of money is just not justifiable for a tablet.
I just purchased my iPad Pro m2 like 3 days ago, I’ll just return this one and get the new one
If you truly did buy it 3 days ago (or even up to 2 weeks ago)… you’re just a moron 😂 I’m sorry but did you buy that and do literally zero research?
i did buy the keyboard for my M1 iPad pro but i never used it. i'm an architecture student and the only thing worth using is the pencil with procreate
Make it 7 matt. I know your gonna buy the latest Ipad 😂.
I completely agree with everything you guys’ve said. 100%
10:15 this is exactly why I’m confused. No one has said the iPad Pro )or any iPad) was under powered. That has never been uttered in any language.
So why make a more powerful iPad if not updating the OS? Let’s put a MacBook on iPadOS and see what happens…
Oh wait, we basically did that with the new iPads… and it’s still boring.
Zak is ready to snap something after this announcement.
This just makes me lose hope in iPhone pricing this fall. If they doubled storage on most iPads, 16 pro will be 1099 at 256
The most incredibly powerful machine for youtube and netflix.
Yeah i am really excited that i can save my money and not waste it on a new ipad now
9:16 well, to answer your question Austin, do you know about the Apple Pencil ? You know, you can write and draw with it. That’s what I do. I do art and graphic design. So far I haven’t felt the need for the keyboard.
The iPad Mini 6 was so good that Apple felt no need to update it.
I have an Ipad Mini 6th Gen (from launch) and I have found it to be a useful tool. I use it mostly as a second screen e.g. watching a youtube video but can still use my phone when on the sofa opr in bed. Also got a bunch of manuals and guides loaded up as a reference tool.
It’s like $1000/$1300 if you get the base models.
Recommend people go for the base model unless there are upgrades you know you will use.
I don’t need space, I don’t need cellular, I don’t need the matte screen (gloss looks better), I don’t need the pencil, I don’t need the expensive keyboard.
I’m going to get the new IPad Pro this year! I’m a in a blessed position to be able to afford one! With my major which is Computer Science that this going to last beyond any windows or Linux machines!
A9 to A12 chip owners are the demographic most likely looking to upgrade.
I’m on the A12 (3rd Gen) chipset and I’m getting the new M4 iPad because I want the improved performance to create as an artist and video editor. Not to mention, my games will be a better experience for playing too 😊
It's so simple if the iPad pro 11/13 inch hasn't convinced you to buy it just wait till WWDC or your one of these that make videos on apple products.
Imo the Tandem Oled Panels are enough of a reason to upgrade with the new pencil, keyboard, landscape camera, sorry but you can't convince me it's the same ipad as 2022 but software...
There is a RAM difference also. 8GB or 16GB and number of cores difference for Pros below 1TB
If the M4 iPad has enough power to run a proper mouse pointer with iPadOS 18 then I’m in 😂
I love my zephyrus g14 Matt. It's overkill for what I do but will last a while.
Why am I just now seeing how much Austin looks like logic!
Austin and his tops 🦦
Wondering if my 6th gen pro keyboard case will fit the new M4 pro. Have a feeling apple increased the size by .1 just to force people to buy another Magic Keyboard. While advertising trade in program for iPad just to be stuck with a bunch of magic keyboards
I literally just want to stream movies and TV shows while I’m working. With Apple finance and a trade in I could get the 11 inch one for like 50 bucks a month for 12 months. Idk if I will but I’m definitely considering it, especially on that OLED. Might be an impulse dumb purchase but I’d literally have it for 3-5 years.
Hopefully they make a an updated oled m1 mini with a 120hz screen. That size is great for mobile gaming and best size for content consumption for me,
Matts shirt reminds me ive taken too much damage and must pit or be DQ'd
#respectthemeatball
I was thinking of a macbook air, now im thinking of geting an ipad pro 13" with the keybored , and it works out cheaper ......