Part 1 of this series "Patrol Basics: How to Sleep in a Non-Permissive Environment" go check it out if you haven't seen it yet. th-cam.com/video/KO9s1qV7xVM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-T3YxccTGj0w9zkn
Great video (again!). Please keep making them. A small number of those replying seem to misunderstand the purpose of this video. I would like to speak primarily to them in this reply. I respectfully suggest to everyone that nearly everyone can benefit from the material communicated within this video and the video that came before it. These two videos discuss basic bushcraft and basic bushcraft principles. One does not need to be a LARPER or noed to be carrying a weapon to benefit. Ultralight backpackers, regular backpackers, car campers, overlanders, preppers, day hikers, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, summer campers, vacationers, Civil Air Patrol, ROTC, hunters, nature and wildlife photographers, nature documentary crews, field news crews, and many, many more need to be conversant with everything Adam of Spiritus Systems has been communicating within these two videos. Even simple scenarios in which one's vehicle experiences a breakdown on a rural road in the middle of nowhere (Eerehwon?) during an incoming hurricane or snowstorm would increase one's possibility of surviving comfortably versus barely surviving or even expiring. It is not a LARPER fantasy.
Im glad you're making this series because theres too many people that act like every situation where you're patrolling is like ranger school, and you never sleep. When i was in Afghanistan, I slept like a baby in an open field at 30% security😂.
After getting out of the Marine Corps and getting into backcountry hunting, I've found there is a ton the military could learn from. Good backcountry equipment is often lightweight and durable that utilizes equipment you already have with you like trekking poles or tripods. Kifaru is one of those brands that has a huge presence in the backcountry hunting industry and produces great products regardless of the mission
As an Army brat, I realize that a lot of the U.S. military's procurement decisions on what to issue to personnel are based, more often than not, upon available monetary budget more than effectiveness in the field. In other words, "How can we get the most (gear) for the buck?" Budget is finite, so, within that budgetary constraint, military brass and planners will likely plan with that "bang-for-the-buck" approach in forefront of mind. I understand that approach, but, like you, I agree that there is always much more to learn. Additionally, I doubt many military planners will have extensive experience living and operating in the wild. Many of these planners are military officers, typically in their twenties or thirties, most of them having matriculated through either a military academy or ROTC at college or university, followed immediately by full-time military service. As such, whatever bush experience with civilian gear they may possess was mostly experienced during youth. As a sixty-year-old adult civilian Army brat, my bushcraft awakening has blossomed late. Though I am an Eagle Scout, most of my bush wisdom maturation has been acquired during the last ten years, and that wisdom is still deepening and maturing to this day. As stated earlier in this reply, those military planners will likely be at the BEGINNING of their bush wisdom journey. In my youth, I benefitted tremendously from what military guys shared and taught us-basic bushcraft lessons, tracking, fire craft, shelter, wilderness survival, FOOTCARE, trenchfoot prevention, first aid, water acquisition, hypothermia avoidance, sanitation, etc. Today, I reflect that those valuable lessons have merely served as the sound foundation and beginnings for my bushcraft experience. Even with direct military training and field experience, those military planners (for the most part) will still not have had enough opportunities to deepen and broaden their understandings of field operations realities to realize the significance of some of the amazing civie geear being produced, fielded, and civie tested today. With all this reply's perspective as my mental backdrop, I can see why the military brass make the procurement decisions they do. . Some gear suppliers I really like include (not in any particular order, other than alphabetical) Arcturix, Kifaru (expensive!), KUIU (expensive!), Mystery Ranch (expensive), and Tactical Tailor, to name only an exceedingly, sparsely mentioned list of many other providers that I also like. Many of the products these suppliers manufacture are durable and versatile, but they are not "ultralight backpacker" products. Though I agree with Randal of the "Grunt Proof" TH-cam channel when he states that both the military and the backpacking community have a lot they can both learn from each other, my preference remains with having gear that (1) will do the job, (2) will survive the doing of the job, and (3) can be either versatile or multifunctional without sacrificing too much in the way of common-sense useability. Lighter in weight is always a preference, but I will go with suffering the additional weight if the gear can satisfy those three criteria. As a last point, I hope you join me in my shout-out to Spiritus Systems and to Adam for producing the first and second of these three videos on sleep/shelter systems. I hope they keep making these kinds of videos. Good bushcraft is presented in them, as well as tactical considerations.
The Dutch made a Gore-Tex bivy with a single pole that packs down to about the size of a Nalgene in a compression sack. It's got a bug net opening and everything and is designed to be deployed without any guy lines. It needs stakes, but those can be yanked out of the ground very quickly. You can find them for $150 or so, too. Well worth looking into.
@@rileykillam5696 Yeah, its pricey, but I managed to get one during sale at Tacwrk for 613 Euros. And yeah, Carinthia was the OG, but they licensed Fecsa to continue.
I don't know any infantry soldiers that use an apex hooch. We make very low(less than 18 inches), high with a poncho. I've never seen any of my brothers make any other type of hooch. We use bungie cords(green or black) so that we can pick up in less than 1 minute and move. Sleep in your boots and change your socks regularly.
In the infantry you follow orders and those orders means you don't have any kind of freedom to set up whatever you want. The 82nd Airborne infantry regiments have to move fast and light. Food water ammo and a poncho for shelter and if you're lucky you might have some thermal underwear if it's cold or bug spray if it's hot and camo. Nowadays we also have batteries and radios and lights and nods. That's about it though. Sometimes there's a few people who carry large knives or hatchets or machetes.
@scienceMicroguy77 thermals here are if you want to private purchase them. Knives are do your own thing depending on unit. Hootchies are issue. Australian Army just doesn't issue a poncho. But yeah there's times and units that are travel light freeze at night. But everyone carries a hootchie ( tarp nylon I forget the size but about 2m X 1.2m ). So as no poncho there's no ranger roll equivalent here. Again unit dependant, some buy a hooped bivi. In the 90s at best some had bought Brit bivi bags. But mostly it was get a 2nd hootchie 1 for a bivi 1 for shelter. Standard is buddy up press stud 2 together 2 men per hootchie. Dryer climate little snow only in a few places. Generally it's just to keep dew off you unless it is actually raining
I took the Canvas Cutter Summit (original version) on a back pack trip down into the Grand Canyon and was able to store my boots and the emptied out back pack inside the bed roll at night to keep the ubiquitous camp rodents from chewing through and pilfering my back pack. Slept comfortably. I stored all food in a metal mesh rat sack that I hung from a bush. Worked great.
Adam you should do one of these for like hot weather. I’d like to know how to camp when the coldest it gets at night is 80 degrees and 100 during the day with high humidity. Thank you sir.
My Stryker crew used bed rolls frequently. Rucks were hung on the bustle racks and our bed rolls would be put under the top flap and then cinched down. Super quick to pack up and scoot.
Great video, I always carry two ponchos (replace the tarp), along with my USMC zipper reversible poncho liner. With two can keep your Shelter up, while going on patrol in the pouring rain.
Big fan. Thank you for all those informations! Just one humble think to say about the hammock. I recently have been using a "fish net hammock" for a jungle deployment, and i think its going to be in my gear most of the time from now on. So many things you can to with it (quick break, secure a wouded, attach equipement to a vehicul,...). Like the pocnho, it can fit in your trousers pocket, dries very fast and very light weight. You can fix it in a way that you re not to high in the air but just above the ground. Just alway use quick release nots.Thank you again for all your videos. 🤙🏻🤙🏻
This video packs a ton of knowledge. You can tell he's legit and know his stuff. That aside Americans gotta stick together for what is coming God bless us all! We the people!
G'day mate.! They're all great shelters but the Tripod Tipi caught our eye. Will definitely be making some mods to specification & requirement. Might even make some telescopic alluminium, fiberglass or titanium poles dedicated for the Tripod Tipi. We always get some light bulb ideas watching your show. Cheers digger from Australia.
consider a narrower foam pad or cutting the pad lengthwise. you won't be able to toss and turn as much but the pad will fit in/on your pack a ton better
I have a kifaru woobie and damn is that one of my favorite peices of kit. Incredibly warm for the wieght and packability. Id go as far to call it luxurious
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. Could you do a video or maybe a short even where you talk about how you carry your camera and lens(es) into the field. Mainly pack organization, as far as priority (top or bottom of pack), and how you keep it safe with all your other gear floating around? Thanks again.
Nice, I use a carinthia bivvy with a savotta ground mat and a snugpak+carintha sleeping bag. I keep the sleeping bag in the bivvy and roll them up in the ground mat.
Poncho tarp and bivi with a rapid ridge line is the most versatile, can be set up nice and low, and you can use any portion of the setup depending upon conditions and environment. Anything more than that is too Gucci to be practical in a lot of situations.
The old school alpha tent made with a poncho or GI tarp and a pair of tent poles crossed from corner to corner is also still very effective and compact.
Great video and explanation. However, my experience is that while the poncho is a great multiple purpose item, I carry a tarp also. When it’s raining, you loose that one piece of equipment while you get wet. For a survival kit, a poncho is beneficial but for a long term especially in a war zone, I rather use a tarp. We were issued a tarp in the US army and a wet weather jacket and pants.
Coalcracker T6zero . Hands down lightest , smallest , fastest shelter . As with anything it’s not perfect for everyone / every situation. But if you’re looking specifically for the lightest , smallest and fastest shelter , it’s that. Comes in different colors as well depending on how your using it. ( Orange , Grey , Green and Brown ) you’re welcome! Lol
One thing we were taught (Canadian army) is using bungee cords for the ridge of your shelter. Perfect tension every time and takes down even faster than 550 cord
A gossamer gear thinlight pad and 3-4 sections of a zlite or nemo switchback is a great sleep pad system. They both fold up small enough to keep inside of your pack too, so it's way lower profile and streamlined. The thinlight provides adequate cushion and the zlite provides insulation for your core. Then I just use my pack itself as a pillow. It's like 6 ounces for the entire setup. I have over 10k miles of ultralight backpacking experience, and more than half of that has been with this setup. I've used it in every environment NA has to offer and I love it
@@hyperboreanforeskin Hiked the AT twice, PCT and CDT. Some shorter trails sprinkled in there as well. There's so much that can be learned from thru hikers. Things will trickle down for sure, and it's cool to see more people becoming interested in these topics
@@Jtat2 nice. id love to do that once in retired and have more time. I'm more of a backwoods camper. i like to bushwack a few miles into a wild area of the adirodacks and stay there for a month. I've taken alot of idea from thru hikers though.
Good poi t at the end as well for general travel. You could possibly do a video about travel through an AOR. Traveling on cargo planes, random convoys, staying in fobs, mobs, etc…you have to be prepared for so much. A hammock, sleeping pad! and woobie were essential gear for that.
Get some tent replacement poles and build a self standing alpha tent . A poncho , a sleeping mat and the casualty parabolic tarp on the inside of poncho.
Excellent video Adam. Tarps are so versatile especially a square shape. The Kifaru sheep tarp looks like a nice addition and a great packed size. I was hoping to see you integrate that S2S nano pyramid bug net from the patrol pack video and that "soon to be released" light weight tarp in Marpat. I'm going to keep asking about that! I'm not sure about that tripod tipi. If you're using your tripod to hold up your shelter what is holding your heavy spotting scope or optic? Some more in field information on Drone Considerations/Thermals/IR would be awesome as well. Nate
I was issued a litefighter tent when I was with 10th mountain. But we rarely used them in the field because we were constantly on the move. I don’t even know why they bother issuing tents anymore, especially in infantry units. We either slept on the ground or in a vehicle
I love that canvas cutter bivy but it’s SO HEAVY. Almost 4 pounds without poles. If it was 2 that would be a winner. It’s literally heavier than my tent and around the same weight as a 4p tent we have.
All good - on Hammocks try to have them no further than you feel comfortable falling out from. It will happen; if you're high in the tree canopy you can use hammocks - make sure you have yourself tied to a line on the tree that will stop you from falling, across limbs in a triangle shape works and tied off around the tree too, break up your shape and keep gear on bank line to prevent it falling like cups etc. Bug netting is standard in a jungle most things will investigate you for threat, food or a warm place to be with blood on tap, leeches and mosquitoes are not the only nasties. Jungle hammocks with built in net are great - make sure they zip both sides, break up the shape of your tarp with branches and foliage. You WILL be wet a lot of the time and humid. Use the heatpads for food, you can't make fires up there. collect rainwater, strain it, purify it and boil it before drinking. You will need to drink 4 - 6 litres a day.
Also you can basically just keep your sleep system contained in the hammock rolled up together and most hammocks have a bug net by default which is very appreciated
@@Forgedfighter48 Yes sir. I have my tarp and net all built in. Takes less than a few minutes to setup and break down. Hennessy snake skins are great for that.
Another great video from SpiritusSystems. I appreciate the gear drops from companies, items, etc. I think that’s really selfless from SpiritusSystems and helps the community. I have been trying to find the Ranger Green E Tool cover for the modern E tool. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
I've had really bad luck sleeping in the usmc bivvy in the rain. The foot always gets wet because it's so narrow and water collects on the top of your external sleeping bad and then seeps through, perhaps mine is due for some techwash. To be fair I've never pitched a tarp over the whole system either. That Kifaru tarp is insanely light and only $150, I think I'll get one.
On the USMC Bivi, the manual says for colder weather to put the “sleep mat” inside of the Bivi itself. Now I can’t say I’ve personally done it, but I’d like to think the USMC one will fit, or at minimum an inflatable one will always fit.
One will need to physically trim the USMC coyote brown mat to size for it to fit inside the USMC bivy bag. I have two of these mats. Mine are thirty inches wide, but it also comes in a twenty-four inch variety. A tapered trim of the mat will likely be needed.
@@hyperboreanforeskin not even remotely, it keeps the wind off of you as well as the rain, and reflects a ton of body heat back towards you. Gortex is goated
Snugpak pitched bivvy is pretty nice too. Ticks and tick-borne diseases in my neck of the woods have gotten so bad. They think permethrin and DEET are just a candy coating on their human meals.
Because of ticks, mosquitoes, scorpions, and snakes (oh, my!)-yes, I live in Florida where all these things are in great abundance, I have always camped with zipper-sealed bug nets. However, Luke of The Outdoor Gear Review TH-cam channel made a valuable suggestion of applying Permethrin to one's gear and clothing. Permethrin is an insecticide, so it is a nerve agent, and it is effective. One should NOT apply it directly to one's skin, and one should wait for the application of it to dry completely before coming in contact with the gear or clothing, but should be relatively safe after it is dry. Permethrin is effective. I sprayed some SAWYER brand permethrin on strategic areas of the carpets and floors of my residence, and within a week, I found a few large cockroaches on their backs, dying. Luke of The Outdoor Gear Review lives in North Carolina and almost always cowboy camps (i.e., tarp camping without any bugnet). Luke reports that he never has a problem with the little critters, because of the Permethrin on gear and clothing and DEET on skin. I must say the skeeters in Louisiana are much worse than the one in Florida. The mosquito should be Louisiana's state bird. Regarding ticks, every state and location can experience what is known as a tick "bloom." When that happens, the only solution is to go to Lowe's or The Home Depot and buy the heavy-strength insecticide for the bloom. That insecticide will sell-out fast. When a bloom is in progress, Permethrin, by itself, will not be adequate. In 2019, while in Maine, I was informed that a tick bloom was in progress and that it was so bad that one male moose that had been taken during a hunt had one of its entire sides completely bloody because the moose, before it was hunted, had rubbed itself completely raw against the trees trying to remove the masses of ticks that had attached themselves to him. One will know when a tick bloom is occurring, because entire large swatches of the ground (i.e., counties) will be covered with ticks. One will not be able to walk on the ground without stepping on several ticks with each step. Also, the internal walls of one's house can be covered with moving ticks. Not good. An application of SAWYER brand Permethrin will not be adequate in that type of situation.
@@kmm-2024 we use the Sawyer permethrin a lot, particularly on boots and pants. As you say at times, it can be ineffective. Our property is pretty wild and one the previous owners sold it because there were so many ticks on the property that his wife refused to be there. In the area generally there are quite a few Lonestar ticks now, which carry variety of diseases like Ehrlichiosis and alpha-gal. Alpha-gal syndrome makes you allergic to red meat. Even using the permethrin I regularly have ticks on me. I’ve had times where walking from the house just 15 feet across the gravel driveway to the car I’ve picked up ticks on my shoe. I’ve had a couple of bites from infected ticks, and gone through cycles of antibiotics. One of the bites resulted in a permanent cyst on my leg. The copperheads, rattlesnakes and water moccasins. Don’t bother me much, but those damn ticks…
Came back to this video to mention. I noticed a lot of bad comments about the marine bivy. It’s lack of water repellent, non breathability, net tears easily, and I’ve seen a lot of people also mention it’s much better to get a bivy targeted at hikers and consumers over military surplus even the new marine gortex one. I haven’t tried it myself but I was looking into getting one. Thoughts?
@@man78924 for the guy lines. I always use trekking poles to pitch my tarps unless it's for a sun shade. It should work fine for the ridge line, I've just never done it personally
Good advice. But I’ve moved to using a version of a truckers hitch. You get all the benefits, but with a quicker/easier tie/untie. Dave Canterbury has a video up about his ridge line system. Even if you don’t use it the same way as him, it’s really worth the watch.
@@man78924typically you’d attach the guy lines to the poncho/tarp using a bowline, or similar. Then you’d use the adjustable taught-line hitch, or even better, a truckers hitch, to connect to the tree. This works for your ridge line too. It means you can set up your whole shelter using only two kinds of knot, which is a lot easier to teach people. The important thing is that you have adjustable tension to keep your shelter tight enough to not flap in the breeze, but not so tight you damage it.
What I'm surprised by is the lack of cots. They didn't even get a mention. What better way to get out of the dirt and bugs than to be sleeping above it instead of in it. Hopefully there will be a 3rd episode for permissive environments and hopefully cots will get a mention. *edit, thanks to 50shadesofcerakote.
Cots are big, bulky, and heavy (even the ultralight ones). But I do agree with you that they are great! I've been sleeping on one every night at home for over a year, this past year, and I am still sleeping on it, so I put my proverbial money where my mouth is. However-again-cots are big, bulky, and heavy, so they would be more applicable for car camping or overlanding than on-foot-patrol bivouacking. They could be issued for rear-areas and vehicle-patrol-deployments (i.e. mounted patrols) in rear-areas, however.
I don’t know who needs to see this but if you’re in the military and find yourself making hooches with your poncho, go to Home Depot and buy a tarp. Backs to the size of a notebook and is 10x more waterproof and 10x easier to set up
Almost all polyethylene tarps sold at The Home Depot, Lowes, Harbour Freight, and other tools stores, hardware stores, supermarkets, and home improvement stores will not last long with field use. A better recommendation would be to procure good field-use tarps from suppliers such as DD Hammock (UK), AquaQuest, Kifaru, etc. These field-use tarps will endure repeated field use and have reliable waterproofing coatings and ratings, unlike any inexpensive polyethylene tarp from tools/hardware/supermarket/home improvement stores. However, I have witnessed some ultralight backpackers use cheap polyethylene tarps while thru hiking the CDT. The degradation of the poly tarps was considerable, but it would somewhat provide some degree of sunshade but would be inadequate for sheltering against rain. The UV rays from the sun would quickly cause the poly tarps to sun-rot, producing thousands of holes-even large voides-in the poly tarp. Poly tarps are not recommended, though, in a tight budget, they can likely be used for a one-time weekend excursion, with maybe three or four more follow-up excursions before having to be replaced.
Hey Adam! I am turning 21 soon and am looking at getting my first concealed carry pistol and a AR a little later this year. Do you have any recommendations of a AR15 at a relatively decent pricepoint, somewhere under or around $1000? I would really appreciate your response, thank you in advance!
😂 It's completely not topic related, but the ad that I got for this video was a silent, minute long video of two mice chewing a hole in someone's living room wall. I found out that there is a National Pest Control Association, but the ad has me stupified. 😂 Unless I missed a line of text maybe, they just want us to know that some people have mice that chew holes through their walls to spy on them watching tv, almost like the trope of a painting with an eye cut-out. 😂
LOL. I have both a Eureka! TCOP (four-season tent) and a LightFighter 1 (three-season tent). Both are great. In some rear-area scenarios, these combat tents can be used, but I can see now where, even in semi-rear areas, the use of a combat tent would be contradicted (or should that word be contra-indicated? ).
See my reply, above, to @flatgrindrides regarding ticks, scorpions, spiders, mosquitoes. In short, apply Permethrin to gear and to clothing, and apply DEET to skin (though DEET does allegedly have potential carcinogenic factors).
Just a civilian, but I take a Helikon-Tex poncho with me everywhere. Can't recommend enough. I tried the USGI brand, but was put off by a grommet tearing out the first time I set it up as a shelter. Most people seem to have good luck with them though so YMMV.
I have a USGI style woodland pattern with grommet holes and snaps. Historically, until the past five or ten years, the majority of ponchos have been woodland pattern. Nowadays, the OCP, Arid OCP, OCP Scorpion, and Desert patterns are common. Choos one you like. It appears that any given variety of OCP seems to be the pattern that provides the best concealment, but adding scrim or cammo netting will greatly improve that concealment. As far as brand name, Helikon seems to have a good reputation, but there are other brands available. The Helikon Swagman Roll has recently caught my eye. Perhaps you should check that one out, among many others.
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Part 1 of this series "Patrol Basics: How to Sleep in a Non-Permissive Environment" go check it out if you haven't seen it yet.
th-cam.com/video/KO9s1qV7xVM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-T3YxccTGj0w9zkn
WOW!
Great video (again!). Please keep making them.
A small number of those replying seem to misunderstand the purpose of this video. I would like to speak primarily to them in this reply. I respectfully suggest to everyone that nearly everyone can benefit from the material communicated within this video and the video that came before it. These two videos discuss basic bushcraft and basic bushcraft principles. One does not need to be a LARPER or noed to be carrying a weapon to benefit. Ultralight backpackers, regular backpackers, car campers, overlanders, preppers, day hikers, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, summer campers, vacationers, Civil Air Patrol, ROTC, hunters, nature and wildlife photographers, nature documentary crews, field news crews, and many, many more need to be conversant with everything Adam of Spiritus Systems has been communicating within these two videos.
Even simple scenarios in which one's vehicle experiences a breakdown on a rural road in the middle of nowhere (Eerehwon?) during an incoming hurricane or snowstorm would increase one's possibility of surviving comfortably versus barely surviving or even expiring.
It is not a LARPER fantasy.
100% we need more videos where Adam talks to us from inside a sleeping bag. 😅
The "Adam Bag" podcast 😂
Feels like we're having a little sleepover!
Would that be a good form of "sleeping on the job?" LOL
Does he have boot bands on, though?!?
I love how applicable these videos are for adjacent hobbies as well like hunting, SAR, or evening wildlife photography.
As an eagle scout, I greatly appreciate the information that spirited systems, grand thumb and others like yourselves put out for us.
I just got my eagle im February. And yea it is great info they are sharing
Im glad you're making this series because theres too many people that act like every situation where you're patrolling is like ranger school, and you never sleep. When i was in Afghanistan, I slept like a baby in an open field at 30% security😂.
Exactly
After getting out of the Marine Corps and getting into backcountry hunting, I've found there is a ton the military could learn from. Good backcountry equipment is often lightweight and durable that utilizes equipment you already have with you like trekking poles or tripods. Kifaru is one of those brands that has a huge presence in the backcountry hunting industry and produces great products regardless of the mission
As an Army brat, I realize that a lot of the U.S. military's procurement decisions on what to issue to personnel are based, more often than not, upon available monetary budget more than effectiveness in the field. In other words, "How can we get the most (gear) for the buck?" Budget is finite, so, within that budgetary constraint, military brass and planners will likely plan with that "bang-for-the-buck" approach in forefront of mind. I understand that approach, but, like you, I agree that there is always much more to learn.
Additionally, I doubt many military planners will have extensive experience living and operating in the wild. Many of these planners are military officers, typically in their twenties or thirties, most of them having matriculated through either a military academy or ROTC at college or university, followed immediately by full-time military service. As such, whatever bush experience with civilian gear they may possess was mostly experienced during youth.
As a sixty-year-old adult civilian Army brat, my bushcraft awakening has blossomed late. Though I am an Eagle Scout, most of my bush wisdom maturation has been acquired during the last ten years, and that wisdom is still deepening and maturing to this day. As stated earlier in this reply, those military planners will likely be at the BEGINNING of their bush wisdom journey.
In my youth, I benefitted tremendously from what military guys shared and taught us-basic bushcraft lessons, tracking, fire craft, shelter, wilderness survival, FOOTCARE, trenchfoot prevention, first aid, water acquisition, hypothermia avoidance, sanitation, etc. Today, I reflect that those valuable lessons have merely served as the sound foundation and beginnings for my bushcraft experience.
Even with direct military training and field experience, those military planners (for the most part) will still not have had enough opportunities to deepen and broaden their understandings of field operations realities to realize the significance of some of the amazing civie geear being produced, fielded, and civie tested today. With all this reply's perspective as my mental backdrop, I can see why the military brass make the procurement decisions they do. .
Some gear suppliers I really like include (not in any particular order, other than alphabetical) Arcturix, Kifaru (expensive!), KUIU (expensive!), Mystery Ranch (expensive), and Tactical Tailor, to name only an exceedingly, sparsely mentioned list of many other providers that I also like. Many of the products these suppliers manufacture are durable and versatile, but they are not "ultralight backpacker" products. Though I agree with Randal of the "Grunt Proof" TH-cam channel when he states that both the military and the backpacking community have a lot they can both learn from each other, my preference remains with having gear that (1) will do the job, (2) will survive the doing of the job, and (3) can be either versatile or multifunctional without sacrificing too much in the way of common-sense useability. Lighter in weight is always a preference, but I will go with suffering the additional weight if the gear can satisfy those three criteria.
As a last point, I hope you join me in my shout-out to Spiritus Systems and to Adam for producing the first and second of these three videos on sleep/shelter systems. I hope they keep making these kinds of videos. Good bushcraft is presented in them, as well as tactical considerations.
Ya, but then the peasants wouldn't be in a constant state of hate and discontent...
C'mon. Think.
The Dutch made a Gore-Tex bivy with a single pole that packs down to about the size of a Nalgene in a compression sack. It's got a bug net opening and everything and is designed to be deployed without any guy lines. It needs stakes, but those can be yanked out of the ground very quickly. You can find them for $150 or so, too. Well worth looking into.
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@fabiangisbertz6734 That one is awesome, but for 840€ I could get another rifle. You know Carinthia was one of the manufacturers for the Dutch bivy?
@@rileykillam5696 Yeah, its pricey, but I managed to get one during sale at Tacwrk for 613 Euros.
And yeah, Carinthia was the OG, but they licensed Fecsa to continue.
Always enjoyed what spiritus puts out, but this has become my favorite channel by far for this genre of content. Thanks to Adam and his team.
I don't know any infantry soldiers that use an apex hooch. We make very low(less than 18 inches), high with a poncho. I've never seen any of my brothers make any other type of hooch. We use bungie cords(green or black) so that we can pick up in less than 1 minute and move. Sleep in your boots and change your socks regularly.
That’s more video 1, I know plenty of dudes that go straight hammock to include myself
Australian Army does Apex pitch. Issue a tarp called a hootchie clip 2 together buddy up in most cases. Likewise never seen a poncho used here lol
In the infantry you follow orders and those orders means you don't have any kind of freedom to set up whatever you want. The 82nd Airborne infantry regiments have to move fast and light. Food water ammo and a poncho for shelter and if you're lucky you might have some thermal underwear if it's cold or bug spray if it's hot and camo. Nowadays we also have batteries and radios and lights and nods. That's about it though. Sometimes there's a few people who carry large knives or hatchets or machetes.
@scienceMicroguy77 thermals here are if you want to private purchase them. Knives are do your own thing depending on unit. Hootchies are issue. Australian Army just doesn't issue a poncho. But yeah there's times and units that are travel light freeze at night. But everyone carries a hootchie ( tarp nylon I forget the size but about 2m X 1.2m ). So as no poncho there's no ranger roll equivalent here. Again unit dependant, some buy a hooped bivi. In the 90s at best some had bought Brit bivi bags. But mostly it was get a 2nd hootchie 1 for a bivi 1 for shelter. Standard is buddy up press stud 2 together 2 men per hootchie. Dryer climate little snow only in a few places. Generally it's just to keep dew off you unless it is actually raining
Tarp and a OR Helium Bivy have served me well for many years. Great video!!!
No slide in bag can’t get out in combat quick
I think that consideration would align more with video 1-a non-permissive environment.@@xusmico187
The camping with Adam series is very insightful, thanks!
I took the Canvas Cutter Summit (original version) on a back pack trip down into the Grand Canyon and was able to store my boots and the emptied out back pack inside the bed roll at night to keep the ubiquitous camp rodents from chewing through and pilfering my back pack. Slept comfortably. I stored all food in a metal mesh rat sack that I hung from a bush. Worked great.
Adam you should do one of these for like hot weather. I’d like to know how to camp when the coldest it gets at night is 80 degrees and 100 during the day with high humidity. Thank you sir.
I dont think I have ever looked forward to the release of videos from a channel until this one. Fantastic content and info, much appreciated.
USMC Bivvy is a fantastic Bivvy
My Stryker crew used bed rolls frequently. Rucks were hung on the bustle racks and our bed rolls would be put under the top flap and then cinched down. Super quick to pack up and scoot.
you guys are killing it with these videos!!
Great video, I always carry two ponchos (replace the tarp), along with my USMC zipper reversible poncho liner. With two can keep your Shelter up, while going on patrol in the pouring rain.
Good word on the stand off with the thermal
Now do one for a permissive environment with throw pillows and a woman.
Lmk if there’s a spiritus discount code for the woman.
Gedonism 😂
Big fan. Thank you for all those informations! Just one humble think to say about the hammock. I recently have been using a "fish net hammock" for a jungle deployment, and i think its going to be in my gear most of the time from now on. So many things you can to with it (quick break, secure a wouded, attach equipement to a vehicul,...). Like the pocnho, it can fit in your trousers pocket, dries very fast and very light weight. You can fix it in a way that you re not to high in the air but just above the ground. Just alway use quick release nots.Thank you again for all your videos. 🤙🏻🤙🏻
This video packs a ton of knowledge. You can tell he's legit and know his stuff. That aside Americans gotta stick together for what is coming God bless us all! We the people!
G'day mate.! They're all great shelters but the Tripod Tipi caught our eye. Will definitely be making some mods to specification & requirement. Might even make some telescopic alluminium, fiberglass or titanium poles dedicated for the Tripod Tipi. We always get some light bulb ideas watching your show. Cheers digger from Australia.
consider a narrower foam pad or cutting the pad lengthwise. you won't be able to toss and turn as much but the pad will fit in/on your pack a ton better
I have a kifaru woobie and damn is that one of my favorite peices of kit. Incredibly warm for the wieght and packability. Id go as far to call it luxurious
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. Could you do a video or maybe a short even where you talk about how you carry your camera and lens(es) into the field. Mainly pack organization, as far as priority (top or bottom of pack), and how you keep it safe with all your other gear floating around? Thanks again.
Nice, I use a carinthia bivvy with a savotta ground mat and a snugpak+carintha sleeping bag. I keep the sleeping bag in the bivvy and roll them up in the ground mat.
Poncho tarp and bivi with a rapid ridge line is the most versatile, can be set up nice and low, and you can use any portion of the setup depending upon conditions and environment. Anything more than that is too Gucci to be practical in a lot of situations.
The old school alpha tent made with a poncho or GI tarp and a pair of tent poles crossed from corner to corner is also still very effective and compact.
Great video and explanation. However, my experience is that while the poncho is a great multiple purpose item, I carry a tarp also. When it’s raining, you loose that one piece of equipment while you get wet. For a survival kit, a poncho is beneficial but for a long term especially in a war zone, I rather use a tarp. We were issued a tarp in the US army and a wet weather jacket and pants.
Loved that bivy when I was in
Another solid well thought out video. Appreciate the work you guys are putting in keeping us informed.
Coalcracker T6zero . Hands down lightest , smallest , fastest shelter . As with anything it’s not perfect for everyone / every situation. But if you’re looking specifically for the lightest , smallest and fastest shelter , it’s that. Comes in different colors as well depending on how your using it. ( Orange , Grey , Green and Brown ) you’re welcome! Lol
One thing we were taught (Canadian army) is using bungee cords for the ridge of your shelter. Perfect tension every time and takes down even faster than 550 cord
But bungees are heavier and don’t compress as good for a ruck, does sound nice though
A gossamer gear thinlight pad and 3-4 sections of a zlite or nemo switchback is a great sleep pad system. They both fold up small enough to keep inside of your pack too, so it's way lower profile and streamlined. The thinlight provides adequate cushion and the zlite provides insulation for your core. Then I just use my pack itself as a pillow. It's like 6 ounces for the entire setup.
I have over 10k miles of ultralight backpacking experience, and more than half of that has been with this setup. I've used it in every environment NA has to offer and I love it
these guys could/should take alot of pointers from cdt and at thru hikers
@@hyperboreanforeskin Hiked the AT twice, PCT and CDT. Some shorter trails sprinkled in there as well. There's so much that can be learned from thru hikers. Things will trickle down for sure, and it's cool to see more people becoming interested in these topics
@@Jtat2 nice. id love to do that once in retired and have more time. I'm more of a backwoods camper. i like to bushwack a few miles into a wild area of the adirodacks and stay there for a month. I've taken alot of idea from thru hikers though.
Good poi t at the end as well for general travel. You could possibly do a video about travel through an AOR. Traveling on cargo planes, random convoys, staying in fobs, mobs, etc…you have to be prepared for so much. A hammock, sleeping pad! and woobie were essential gear for that.
I love consuming content. This content is good.
For camouflage just throw some branches, grass, moss, anything natural over your sleep system, to break the unnatural lines and colors.
Wilderness Innovations makes the best poncho and liner systems. Colorado i believe and also hand made in USA.
Love this series, dudes.
Get some tent replacement poles and build a self standing alpha tent . A poncho , a sleeping mat and the casualty parabolic tarp on the inside of poncho.
Excellent video Adam. Tarps are so versatile especially a square shape. The Kifaru sheep tarp looks like a nice addition and a great packed size. I was hoping to see you integrate that S2S nano pyramid bug net from the patrol pack video and that "soon to be released" light weight tarp in Marpat. I'm going to keep asking about that! I'm not sure about that tripod tipi. If you're using your tripod to hold up your shelter what is holding your heavy spotting scope or optic? Some more in field information on Drone Considerations/Thermals/IR would be awesome as well.
Nate
Use the little black 2 clip carabiners with the 550 cord, if you gotta tear down in a hurry its so fast
Some hammocks can be used in the same way as that bedroll thing, mainly the ones with insect netting (otherwise it's kinda pointless)
Outstanding video series. Thank you Adam.
Good rundown, thanks for the info
I was issued a litefighter tent when I was with 10th mountain. But we rarely used them in the field because we were constantly on the move. I don’t even know why they bother issuing tents anymore, especially in infantry units. We either slept on the ground or in a vehicle
Awesome series!! Keep them coming please.
I love that canvas cutter bivy but it’s SO HEAVY. Almost 4 pounds without poles. If it was 2 that would be a winner. It’s literally heavier than my tent and around the same weight as a 4p tent we have.
All good - on Hammocks try to have them no further than you feel comfortable falling out from. It will happen; if you're high in the tree canopy you can use hammocks - make sure you have yourself tied to a line on the tree that will stop you from falling, across limbs in a triangle shape works and tied off around the tree too, break up your shape and keep gear on bank line to prevent it falling like cups etc. Bug netting is standard in a jungle most things will investigate you for threat, food or a warm place to be with blood on tap, leeches and mosquitoes are not the only nasties.
Jungle hammocks with built in net are great - make sure they zip both sides, break up the shape of your tarp with branches and foliage. You WILL be wet a lot of the time and humid. Use the heatpads for food, you can't make fires up there. collect rainwater, strain it, purify it and boil it before drinking. You will need to drink 4 - 6 litres a day.
Looking forward to part 3, permissive environment (tent camping?)
Great video, thankyou. I cannot find the USGI OCP poncho....any suggestions for a civilian to acquire one of those?
I’ve been trying to find one to no avail
Hammocks or death! Less weight, less stuff, more comfortable. Nice to see good systems or the ground though. Great vid as always.
Also you can basically just keep your sleep system contained in the hammock rolled up together and most hammocks have a bug net by default which is very appreciated
@@Forgedfighter48 Yes sir. I have my tarp and net all built in. Takes less than a few minutes to setup and break down. Hennessy snake skins are great for that.
@@snafuedem i have the warbonnet ridgerunner but ive heard good things about henessy hammocks
Another great video from SpiritusSystems. I appreciate the gear drops from companies, items, etc. I think that’s really selfless from SpiritusSystems and helps the community. I have been trying to find the Ranger Green E Tool cover for the modern E tool. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
My concubine prefers the cozi privacy of the tripod teepee.
Thanks Adam
Perfect timing!
Man you guys are doing a dang good job with yer videos. Please keep it up.
I've had really bad luck sleeping in the usmc bivvy in the rain. The foot always gets wet because it's so narrow and water collects on the top of your external sleeping bad and then seeps through, perhaps mine is due for some techwash. To be fair I've never pitched a tarp over the whole system either. That Kifaru tarp is insanely light and only $150, I think I'll get one.
On the USMC Bivi, the manual says for colder weather to put the “sleep mat” inside of the Bivi itself. Now I can’t say I’ve personally done it, but I’d like to think the USMC one will fit, or at minimum an inflatable one will always fit.
One will need to physically trim the USMC coyote brown mat to size for it to fit inside the USMC bivy bag. I have two of these mats. Mine are thirty inches wide, but it also comes in a twenty-four inch variety. A tapered trim of the mat will likely be needed.
@@kmm-2024 thank you, I still haven’t tried it yet but I will at somepoint
Upon careful consideration, I’ve determined the best field-sleeping implementation would be a woobie-snuggie with a gortex outer layer and a bug net.
goretex is over rated
Check out the swagman roll
@@hyperboreanforeskin not even remotely, it keeps the wind off of you as well as the rain, and reflects a ton of body heat back towards you. Gortex is goated
@@elterga6224 you just described every clothing garments function since the beginning of time
@@hyperboreanforeskin clearly you’ve never used gortex
Snugpak pitched bivvy is pretty nice too. Ticks and tick-borne diseases in my neck of the woods have gotten so bad. They think permethrin and DEET are just a candy coating on their human meals.
Because of ticks, mosquitoes, scorpions, and snakes (oh, my!)-yes, I live in Florida where all these things are in great abundance, I have always camped with zipper-sealed bug nets. However, Luke of The Outdoor Gear Review TH-cam channel made a valuable suggestion of applying Permethrin to one's gear and clothing. Permethrin is an insecticide, so it is a nerve agent, and it is effective. One should NOT apply it directly to one's skin, and one should wait for the application of it to dry completely before coming in contact with the gear or clothing, but should be relatively safe after it is dry. Permethrin is effective. I sprayed some SAWYER brand permethrin on strategic areas of the carpets and floors of my residence, and within a week, I found a few large cockroaches on their backs, dying. Luke of The Outdoor Gear Review lives in North Carolina and almost always cowboy camps (i.e., tarp camping without any bugnet). Luke reports that he never has a problem with the little critters, because of the Permethrin on gear and clothing and DEET on skin.
I must say the skeeters in Louisiana are much worse than the one in Florida. The mosquito should be Louisiana's state bird.
Regarding ticks, every state and location can experience what is known as a tick "bloom." When that happens, the only solution is to go to Lowe's or The Home Depot and buy the heavy-strength insecticide for the bloom. That insecticide will sell-out fast. When a bloom is in progress, Permethrin, by itself, will not be adequate. In 2019, while in Maine, I was informed that a tick bloom was in progress and that it was so bad that one male moose that had been taken during a hunt had one of its entire sides completely bloody because the moose, before it was hunted, had rubbed itself completely raw against the trees trying to remove the masses of ticks that had attached themselves to him. One will know when a tick bloom is occurring, because entire large swatches of the ground (i.e., counties) will be covered with ticks. One will not be able to walk on the ground without stepping on several ticks with each step. Also, the internal walls of one's house can be covered with moving ticks. Not good. An application of SAWYER brand Permethrin will not be adequate in that type of situation.
@@kmm-2024 we use the Sawyer permethrin a lot, particularly on boots and pants. As you say at times, it can be ineffective. Our property is pretty wild and one the previous owners sold it because there were so many ticks on the property that his wife refused to be there. In the area generally there are quite a few Lonestar ticks now, which carry variety of diseases like Ehrlichiosis and alpha-gal. Alpha-gal syndrome makes you allergic to red meat. Even using the permethrin I regularly have ticks on me. I’ve had times where walking from the house just 15 feet across the gravel driveway to the car I’ve picked up ticks on my shoe. I’ve had a couple of bites from infected ticks, and gone through cycles of antibiotics. One of the bites resulted in a permanent cyst on my leg. The copperheads, rattlesnakes and water moccasins. Don’t bother me much, but those damn ticks…
Another good episode
10:42 you could set up an a frame and use 3 ponchos make it 3 times bigger. If it permissible
Came back to this video to mention. I noticed a lot of bad comments about the marine bivy. It’s lack of water repellent, non breathability, net tears easily, and I’ve seen a lot of people also mention it’s much better to get a bivy targeted at hikers and consumers over military surplus even the new marine gortex one. I haven’t tried it myself but I was looking into getting one. Thoughts?
Another banger
Fellas, check out the taught line hitch for use with tarp shelters. Works similar to a prusik but is superior imo
Do you use the taut line hitch for making your ridgeline or for attaching to it?
@@man78924 for the guy lines. I always use trekking poles to pitch my tarps unless it's for a sun shade. It should work fine for the ridge line, I've just never done it personally
Good advice. But I’ve moved to using a version of a truckers hitch. You get all the benefits, but with a quicker/easier tie/untie. Dave Canterbury has a video up about his ridge line system. Even if you don’t use it the same way as him, it’s really worth the watch.
@@man78924typically you’d attach the guy lines to the poncho/tarp using a bowline, or similar. Then you’d use the adjustable taught-line hitch, or even better, a truckers hitch, to connect to the tree. This works for your ridge line too. It means you can set up your whole shelter using only two kinds of knot, which is a lot easier to teach people.
The important thing is that you have adjustable tension to keep your shelter tight enough to not flap in the breeze, but not so tight you damage it.
@@aka5742 awesome, thanks for letting us know. I will be checking this out
Defcon 5 bivy. Remove the poles and use your ruck instead. Has EVERYTHING rolled in one. Sleeping bag and pad
outstanding
Please do a video on:
Sleep in a POW camp
I really like these videos, can you cover tccc and W1-3 or just have an 18D come on and talk?
Outstanding
Anyone know what poncho that is? Like how it has metal wings for cord and to stake down.
What I'm surprised by is the lack of cots. They didn't even get a mention.
What better way to get out of the dirt and bugs than to be sleeping above it instead of in it.
Hopefully there will be a 3rd episode for permissive environments and hopefully cots will get a mention.
*edit, thanks to 50shadesofcerakote.
Hammocks did get mentioned at the end of the video. He also explained why he didnt recommend them.
@@50shadesofcerakote Damn, I must have spaced out, rewatching it.
Cots are big, bulky, and heavy (even the ultralight ones). But I do agree with you that they are great! I've been sleeping on one every night at home for over a year, this past year, and I am still sleeping on it, so I put my proverbial money where my mouth is. However-again-cots are big, bulky, and heavy, so they would be more applicable for car camping or overlanding than on-foot-patrol bivouacking. They could be issued for rear-areas and vehicle-patrol-deployments (i.e. mounted patrols) in rear-areas, however.
I don’t know who needs to see this but if you’re in the military and find yourself making hooches with your poncho, go to Home Depot and buy a tarp. Backs to the size of a notebook and is 10x more waterproof and 10x easier to set up
Almost all polyethylene tarps sold at The Home Depot, Lowes, Harbour Freight, and other tools stores, hardware stores, supermarkets, and home improvement stores will not last long with field use. A better recommendation would be to procure good field-use tarps from suppliers such as DD Hammock (UK), AquaQuest, Kifaru, etc. These field-use tarps will endure repeated field use and have reliable waterproofing coatings and ratings, unlike any inexpensive polyethylene tarp from tools/hardware/supermarket/home improvement stores.
However, I have witnessed some ultralight backpackers use cheap polyethylene tarps while thru hiking the CDT. The degradation of the poly tarps was considerable, but it would somewhat provide some degree of sunshade but would be inadequate for sheltering against rain. The UV rays from the sun would quickly cause the poly tarps to sun-rot, producing thousands of holes-even large voides-in the poly tarp.
Poly tarps are not recommended, though, in a tight budget, they can likely be used for a one-time weekend excursion, with maybe three or four more follow-up excursions before having to be replaced.
13:16 I can hear my Sergeant Major yelling right now “take that shit down, it looks like a god damn Gypsy camp here”
Good info
I got issued that same bivy sack issued to me. Im at the 82nd
Hey Adam! I am turning 21 soon and am looking at getting my first concealed carry pistol and a AR a little later this year. Do you have any recommendations of a AR15 at a relatively decent pricepoint, somewhere under or around $1000? I would really appreciate your response, thank you in advance!
Glock 19 and a bcm 14.5. I'm obviously not Adam just trying to help.
Have u ever tried the or helium bivy?
solid
😂 It's completely not topic related, but the ad that I got for this video was a silent, minute long video of two mice chewing a hole in someone's living room wall.
I found out that there is a National Pest Control Association, but the ad has me stupified. 😂
Unless I missed a line of text maybe, they just want us to know that some people have mice that chew holes through their walls to spy on them watching tv, almost like the trope of a painting with an eye cut-out. 😂
I'm pre trek pole, what about the old 3 shelter half poles?
albert defense on the champion stock? im peanut butter and jelly
looks longer than the old ponchos USMC had in the 80s, much better
Is it possible to accidentally suffocate while sleeping in a bivvy?
I wonder if the ICS will appear in the permissive video. Seems like it isn’t exactly a “combat shelter“ after all 😂
LOL. I have both a Eureka! TCOP (four-season tent) and a LightFighter 1 (three-season tent). Both are great. In some rear-area scenarios, these combat tents can be used, but I can see now where, even in semi-rear areas, the use of a combat tent would be contradicted (or should that word be contra-indicated? ).
damn Adam with the submariner, ultra gigachad
No thermal drone fotage?
I watched the first sleep video 3 times
But did you watch it your sleep? LOL. (I confess... I viewed it twice, too.) Cheers.
link for an actual genuine US ARMY poncho?
They're all over ebay and can always find them easily at military surplus stores
On Ebay I only found lot of items in scorpion camo made in Ukraine....probably with our money...
americana pipe dream maybe? Its basically an online surplus store.
Thats just RAD
LETS GOOOO
Louisiana is where you need a hammock unless you wanna get bit by a brown recluse.
Drone?
Link for thermal and infrared cover
What are the tripods normally used for?
Shooting off or observation ( spotting scope)
Any tick tips? 🤔 ...asking for a friend.
Insect repellent clip, blouse your boots, wear gloves (vented if its hot), bug head net or a veil tucked around your neck into your shirt collar
See my reply, above, to @flatgrindrides regarding ticks, scorpions, spiders, mosquitoes. In short, apply Permethrin to gear and to clothing, and apply DEET to skin (though DEET does allegedly have potential carcinogenic factors).
Which poncho is everyone using?
USGI woodland
Same. USGI woodland. Like he mentioned, it’s tight and there’s no room for gear though.
Dutch Army Poncho
Just a civilian, but I take a Helikon-Tex poncho with me everywhere. Can't recommend enough. I tried the USGI brand, but was put off by a grommet tearing out the first time I set it up as a shelter. Most people seem to have good luck with them though so YMMV.
I have a USGI style woodland pattern with grommet holes and snaps. Historically, until the past five or ten years, the majority of ponchos have been woodland pattern. Nowadays, the OCP, Arid OCP, OCP Scorpion, and Desert patterns are common. Choos one you like. It appears that any given variety of OCP seems to be the pattern that provides the best concealment, but adding scrim or cammo netting will greatly improve that concealment. As far as brand name, Helikon seems to have a good reputation, but there are other brands available. The Helikon Swagman Roll has recently caught my eye. Perhaps you should check that one out, among many others.
Anyone use the canvas cutter set up?