Lenovo ThinkStation P330 Tiny Review

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    In this video, we look at the Lenovo ThinkStation P330 Tiny which crams an Intel Core i7-8700T and a NVIDIA Quadro P620 into a small 1L chassis. This combination is one of the highest-end 1L PC's ever offered. Beyond the CPU and GPU, this unit can take dual M.2 NVMe SSDs as well as up to 64GB of RAM.
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    Table of Contents
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    00:00 Introduction
    02:21 Hardware Overview - External
    05:28 Hardware Overview - Internal
    10:57 CPU Options and what we paid
    12:50 Performance
    14:04 Key Lessons Learned
    15:00 Power
    15:57 Wrap-up
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    Other STH Articles Mentioned in this Video
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    - Project TinyMiniMicro Catalog forums.servethehome.com/index...
    - Plex on Project TinyMiniMicro Guide www.servethehome.com/sth-proj...
    - pfSense Firewall on Project TinyMiniMicro Guide www.servethehome.com/guide-ti...
    - NVIDIA Quadro P620 Review www.servethehome.com/nvidia-q... graphics-card-review/
    - Lenovo ThinkStation P320 Tiny CE Review • Lenovo ThinkStation P3...
    - Lenovo ThinkCentre M920x Tiny - • Lenovo ThinkCentre M92...
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  • @SmokeytheBeer
    @SmokeytheBeer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I would love to see more behind the scenes stuff including the new TH-cam studio setup. Love all your content!!

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Will do!!

    • @d00dEEE
      @d00dEEE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely want to see this! Especially your hardware setup...

  • @youp1tralala
    @youp1tralala 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great review and the written one as well. I really like how well engineered and modular these small boxes are, while being powerful if you need it. A bit anecdotal but the second m2 slot is ideally placed to connect an m2 based eGPU to it, leaving the chassis open

  • @jeremybarber2837
    @jeremybarber2837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Having the active cooling on the GPU plus that many display outs is a super nice combo. Fun stuff.

  • @olafschermann1592
    @olafschermann1592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your tiny mini micro series. Bought 2 different units so far because they are damm small but easily servicable. Thanks for that inspiration!

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bringing back the series with today's video! Have another filmed for a 1L PC too.

  • @SmokeytheBeer
    @SmokeytheBeer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've been enjoying the Project TinyMiniMicro content. In a future video, could you please show some use cases or workflows with a machine this size? I would be interested to see how its applied in different settings.

  • @markvonmiller4702
    @markvonmiller4702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the content, quite distracted with the background since I kinda feel like I'm familiar with it

  • @LinuxParadigm
    @LinuxParadigm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Prices on eBay have already increased.

  • @4point6Thunderbird
    @4point6Thunderbird 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really wish a company would offer native 1/2.5/5/10gbit Ethernet ports. I have a Dell 7060 with a 8700T/64GB as my primary host, only thing it's missing is 10gig networking.

  • @digitalsparky
    @digitalsparky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another thing you could think about would be to get a decent thunderbolt 3 card, then attach a proper gaming card via t3 enclosure to make it a relatively compact gaming, rendering, or AI/ML system.

  • @HALFLIFETRUTHER
    @HALFLIFETRUTHER 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! looking at the tech specs and this is really something. Very powerful for it's size. I wish I had one.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea! Some of these are cool because they are cheap. This one is a bit more but you can pack a lot in here.

  • @breakpoint4869
    @breakpoint4869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That's an older revision of the P330 Tiny. The newer ones have a heat pipe connecting the Quadro P600 to the main heat sync.

    • @milescarter7803
      @milescarter7803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      P320 came with Quadro P600, P330 comes with P620, check PSREF, all part numbers. Also I converted two m720q to 'p330' (lid, bracket and riser) from encompass parts. No dual m.2 is really only difference. (Also motherboard heatsink and Copper 65w CPU heatsink are options)

    • @milescarter7803
      @milescarter7803 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did hear a report that the P1000 card did go back to a heatpipe design.

  • @thatLion01
    @thatLion01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing system and amazing work on these youtube videos. Best reviews on the internet. I say you are best for #2020.

  • @berndeckenfels
    @berndeckenfels 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A good idea for a video would be have a look at the vpro tooling for smaller/ad-hoc use. Like how to run this theft discovery system and how to provision remote management.

  • @carloscuevas8268
    @carloscuevas8268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Too bad outside the US the market is small for these devices, especially with dGPU. Anyway, they are perfect for a low power/space beginner homelab! Would love to see more video content about homelab uses/software to run

  • @aircrate
    @aircrate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love this mini pc series. do you planned on reviewing acer veriton n-series in future? i'm interested in modular design they offered and makes them unique than the rest of 1-1.5L mini pc, but sadly there is not much great in-depth review of their products on youtube.

  • @noahlistgarten7832
    @noahlistgarten7832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, maybe I'll grab a 9700T, 32GB, P1000 to replace the desktop I currently have with a Quadro K1200 in it... Would definitely cut the footprint down. Looking forward to the BTS video of the studio!

  • @nEuDyYT
    @nEuDyYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these tiny ThinkStations.. but I'm wondering, what's the significant difference between the P330 tiny, the M920q Tiny and M720q Tiny, even when choosing the exact same CPU Model type? (except that P330 is already marked as discontinued)

  • @yugen042
    @yugen042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would have been nice to hear some airflow/temperature info. Are these stackable?

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm waiting for a P35 tiny, AMD Ryzen 7 pro 47/5750GE, with Radeon Pro 6600W(6600xt with lower TDP and HBM2 instead of GDDR6)

    • @willapanews9761
      @willapanews9761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What would be the benefits of getting one of these with a ryzen 7 pro 4750ge compared to a regular desk top with a ryzen 7 4700g?

  • @johnrobinson4445
    @johnrobinson4445 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Lenovo M73 Tiny (no GPU). It is excellent. Has worked flawlessly since May 2015. Still fast enough for internet, youtube, word processing, etc. Finally replaced it (but still have it) with a Quadro-equipped Dell because I wanted to do some 3D modeling. Really love how robust and reliable the Lenovo has been.

  • @gdfath3r
    @gdfath3r ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am running a RX6400 in it since last august 2022 😍

  • @ingenfare
    @ingenfare 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got myself a Asus PN50 with 4800u cpu for portable workstation. It's really fun and would be cool to see tested (even if it's not used/cheap).

  • @rolandog.
    @rolandog. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Patrick, I have a simple question about this PC, does the built-in pcie slot support bifurcation? Thank you in advance.

  • @kyfeam
    @kyfeam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    should check out the Acer Veriton N4640G mini PC.. you can add a Nvidia Quadro P620/P1000 to that unit.. for less than $300.. pretty cool little tiny PC..

  • @gdjaybee742
    @gdjaybee742 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, Do you know if Lenovo will be coming out with an RX 6400 video card that will fit in these units? Very curious about this unit.

  • @willapanews9761
    @willapanews9761 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would be the benefits of getting one of these with a ryzen 7 pro 4750ge compared to a regular desk top with a ryzen 7 4700g?

  • @joejia1410
    @joejia1410 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thats a lot of stuff packed into that lil case

  • @RealYethal
    @RealYethal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will there be a separate video documenting a PFSense setup with 4 port pcie nic installed?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably not since we already have the video on the single NIC setup. With the 4-port NIC it is the same pfSense setup as you would normally do with an i350-t4 NIC.

  • @Pesar25
    @Pesar25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good pc this p330 tiny. Where can I get the pci riser and the bracket that goes around the quadro p620 output ports?? Good review, thanks.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think people in the STH forums have the P/Ns but I do not know it. I do know the risers are sometimes hard to get with long lead times

  • @OTechnology
    @OTechnology 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow didn't know that existed! That's awesome that is just kinda uses a low profile GPU.

  • @oliverguy3121
    @oliverguy3121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could put a Tesla T4 in this for edge inference workloads

  • @jhnano100
    @jhnano100 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hola buenas tardes me podrías decir que voltajes o amperios es el cargador de este equipo ya que el mio esta borroso y no se lee nada gracias

  • @utoracat18
    @utoracat18 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The pcie slot is only x8 and needs a proprietary adaptor to connector to normal pcie x8 or x16 card. That adaptor isnt cheap around 50usd

  • @tjmarx
    @tjmarx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For anyone in Australia interested in picking one of these up second hand, they average $1299 on eBay.
    Edit: Brand new, they start at $1800 direct from Lenovo.

  • @martininnes5641
    @martininnes5641 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the additional storage I installed alongside to supplied 500Gb
    Sabrent Rocket Q 2TB NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 Internal SSD High Performance Solid State Drive R/W 3200/2900MB/s

  • @j.lietka9406
    @j.lietka9406 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have I bugged you? Kinda lose track of people I comment on... anyway when you opened the case on the Lenovo, did you see a small button or switch? - it would be just about hidden with the cover/case on. It would or might be on the front lower corner. Or, how can a system reset (like onekey) or windows recovery on that model? Have a similar but a little older than yours. ok here we go: at 5:55 if you look at the top right corner of the open unit, there is a small stubby button. This would be covered by the case. What is that button for? Thank you

  • @ep_dimi
    @ep_dimi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the PCIe lanes?
    Did anyone try to install a ssd on the m.2 wifi slot? Simultaneously with a 4x1Gb nic pcie card and 2 m.2 nvme?
    Will it be able to boot from the ssd installed on the m.2 wifi slot?
    I'm thinking an all in one home server. I mean Proxmox with pfsence and truenas. Is it possible?
    Is it a good idea or not?

  • @BenMills1
    @BenMills1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We use P330 Tiny and now P340 Tiny PCs for general office use. Does it make any sense to pull the NVIDIA GPU and just use the built in Intel graphics? As an example, I'm a programmer using general dev tools. Do I gain anything from a higher end GPU? Does it make the PC faster in any way? I'm thinking that removing the NVIDIA would reduce the power usage and make the PC just a little bit quieter.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For general desktop, you are probably fine with the integrated graphics, but you will want to ensure you do not mess up airflow of what is left.

  • @abdulazimpatel8467
    @abdulazimpatel8467 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you do pfsense on these Lenovo mini PCs???

  • @user-oj1ng4pv4i
    @user-oj1ng4pv4i 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can we convert m920q with a PCIE riser card with lowprofile GPUs?

  • @namesnikola
    @namesnikola 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For t340 there are 2 options for power supply 170W and 230W. Anyone knows which one to choose when?

  • @vmoutsop
    @vmoutsop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excuse my ignorance but I didn't hear anything about any options regarding alternative graphics cards, is that because of lower power requirements and nothing exists that will work with the MiniPC?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The only two supported cards in this are the Quadro P620 and P1000. The space is very tight. We showed an AMD option the M920x video/ article.

  • @Shadowauratechno
    @Shadowauratechno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My first thought after seeing the p620 in there was trying to figure out how to fit a T4 into that slot. I think I need to spend less time reading about server gpus

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had a similar thought. The challenge with the T4 is the power and cooling. I do want to see a nice and more modern 40W TDP GPU in here though.

  • @armyofninjas9055
    @armyofninjas9055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have one of these at work.

  • @Gillymonsterproductions
    @Gillymonsterproductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello OP as hell router setup. Too bad they didn't come with dual NIC configs. I may have to go digging. This can fix some issues I have with my current and aging wifi setup.

  • @magfal
    @magfal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    would be an okay little workstation. can easily drive all 7 of my displays using displayport mst.

  • @shambles3833
    @shambles3833 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a few of these Tiny Lenovo's on hand that I've recycled from work, unfortunately what I really want is the ability to plug in a NIC adapter and use one of these form factors as a router. While this unit allows for this, looking at ebay prices it certainly isn't worth it. These Tiny PC's are really interesting as home projects when a used one crosses your desk, but I couldn't ever see buying these things new for any lab purposes.

  • @80robina
    @80robina 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i would def make it into a hypervisor and spin up vms ☺

  • @showmytime9177
    @showmytime9177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    december 2021: these things are over 1000USD in the specs from the video

  • @SermedAlWasiti
    @SermedAlWasiti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The P330 has already been discontinued...they now have the P340 as a successor

  • @thomasb1521
    @thomasb1521 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that electrically x16?

  • @toysareforboys1
    @toysareforboys1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good for Plex transcoding server?

  • @crazycool1128
    @crazycool1128 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This or the 4650ge thinkcentre?

  • @FMW1978
    @FMW1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does only Lenovo put dedicated GPU in 1L case?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HP in current gen has the 1660 Ti (notebook/ low power version) and Dell can, in some models, put a Radeon 640. We did not have it, but talk about the GPUs and expansion a bit in the Dell OptiPlex 7090 Micro video that will be going live in 20 minutes.

  • @MadalinIgnisca
    @MadalinIgnisca 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had one of this at work. The cpu is mobile class and should not expect similar to desktop performance. The i7 performs like my i3 desktop.

  • @kieranwilliams3052
    @kieranwilliams3052 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Put a 10gig nic in and point to a iscsi target and boom a nice cheap compute VMware node for a cluster!

  • @DrZbo
    @DrZbo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I almost cannot believe what they fit in this thing...

  • @Gizmo-nr8cs
    @Gizmo-nr8cs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do I setup Plex on this Unit

  • @mobiletechnologyabc5175
    @mobiletechnologyabc5175 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    where i buy this computer bro

  • @SveinWisnaes
    @SveinWisnaes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the reviews of these small computers. BUT - my only gripe is that I would like one that has room for one card. I want to use a pc like this as a router, but want to add in a 4 port Ethernet card. Any suggestions? And no, USB etc is not an option. It has to be really fast.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mentioned a bit in the video/ main site article, but there are configuration options for this, the M920x, M920q and a few others for quad port Intel i350-t4 NICs instead of GPUs.

    • @SveinWisnaes
      @SveinWisnaes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo yeah, a GPU is not necessary for a router. What kind of socket is it? PCIe?

    • @MarkRose1337
      @MarkRose1337 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You might want to look at Qotom's offerings.

  • @nomad6-1
    @nomad6-1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think we could put a 1050Ti in there? I've had my hands on a tiny MSI card (link below) which costs less than half the quadro P1000 and should be more powerful. It does not need power connectors, it runs on the PCIe link.
    www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/geforce-gtx-1050-ti-4gt-lp.html

    • @davidsuare572
      @davidsuare572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you add the graphics card to this tiny pc?

  • @mausilugner6637
    @mausilugner6637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perfect Plex Server ?

  • @valeriydergachev
    @valeriydergachev 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice videos!! nice !!

  • @williamnarmontas9549
    @williamnarmontas9549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how do you do your audio recording?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not 100% sure what this setup used, but likely this was a Rode NTG4+ into the Canon C70 and just recording along with the video. Nothing too fancy.

    • @williamnarmontas9549
      @williamnarmontas9549 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Awesome thanks! I'm recording some stuff so audio quality is important.
      - P340 Tiny user

  • @altmindo
    @altmindo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    these are kinda expensive, over $500 on ebay?

  • @manuelthallinger7297
    @manuelthallinger7297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have to say the amount of those little system gets pretty iritating. I want to buy one as a pc for my mum and i heave no idea what to buy xD cause there are so many

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If I were buying one for my mum I would look for something like the M920q with a Core i5-8500T and vPro (for remote troubleshooting when she asks for help.) I am not sure if that is helpful at all.

  • @capsuleone3543
    @capsuleone3543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you add subtitles?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      YT adds these. Sometimes they take a bit longer to generate.

  • @kaptn_kage
    @kaptn_kage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just wanna know, can it boot macOs?
    Yes, yes it can

  • @martininnes5641
    @martininnes5641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a newer version of this P330 with the long copper heat pipe and Intel Core i7 9700T @ 2.00GHz AND NVIDIA Quadro P1000 AND 32Gb Memory AND a 2Gb SSD in the spare slot.
    The worst thing about this computer is the fan noise. There is a BIOS setting for quiet mode but makes no difference. The fan cuts in and out whilst just browsing the internet. The fan issue was the same before I upgraded the spec - buyer beware - it will annoy the hell out of you................I have it now in a unit fitted with push pull fans and it makes no difference at all. Seems to be a CPU heat issue - I am not alone with this complaint that Lenevo are aware of but can-not sort - .............................................

    • @LiLBitsDK
      @LiLBitsDK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      2Gb ssd? :P

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Martin, that is great feedback. This one is relatively quiet. I wonder if having that heat pipe puts more load on the single fan which makes it spin more. That is part of the challenge with these. They tend to see mid-cycle updates.

    • @martininnes5641
      @martininnes5641 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Reckon you are right. I have resorted to this: A 120mm USB fan placed over the chassis fan air intake and held by magnets. In the hope that air will be pushed through the internal fan and cool the CPU before it gets hot enough for the internal fan to kick in. (This USB fan has a speed control switch inline with the USB plug). Only did this an hour ago - so the jury is out on a pretty poor remedy. If this fails - I will move and hide the computer away from desktop - far enough away so has to not hear that dreaded fan whine going on and off.

    • @martininnes5641
      @martininnes5641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seems to have worked. When watching a you-tube video the temp of the CPU cores average 58 Deg Celsius. Without the USB fan - average is 72 Deg Celsius. Whilst the USB fan is placed over the case fan intake - it seems to be reducing the overall internal case temp. The USB fan noise is almost non existent at medium setting. The internal fan has yet to trigger. I don't push this PC as I mainly use it for Internet and perhaps copying and converting the odd DVD Blue-ray.

  • @jw612
    @jw612 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The newer is p340 tiny now!!

  • @mattmunroe4928
    @mattmunroe4928 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the MSPR is double and the street price is Quadro vs a Alienware Alpha and it's still slower. Where is the innovation?

    • @mattmunroe4928
      @mattmunroe4928 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've owned half a dozen Lenovo Tiny's so, I am not just talking gamer boy hate or something. I've sold or given as gifts to grandma the Tiny's and still keep the Alpha as the TV computer.

  • @simplesmeercat
    @simplesmeercat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was here

  • @jackkuo613
    @jackkuo613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I guess MXM is dead then :(

  • @Armadurapersonal
    @Armadurapersonal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh no, the Demuro effect is already in motion for these. Just saw a M75Q go from $320 to $400 :/

  • @dustinkrejci6142
    @dustinkrejci6142 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    AI/ML system ON KUBERNETIES is what i want to see used with these hardware as multi clusters... nodes...
    drool....

  • @jaimenbrunson1652
    @jaimenbrunson1652 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A gt 1030 will turn this into a gaming machine

  • @aneokacieelga4223
    @aneokacieelga4223 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice 😍💋 💝💖♥️❤️

  • @SidebandSamurai
    @SidebandSamurai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Second! First Like!

  • @cosmicrdt
    @cosmicrdt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I reckon deprecate is the most mispronounced word in the IT industry.

  • @semillerimages
    @semillerimages 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your content is great, but it would be better as a podcast. I have never understood why tech youtubers need to have their face on the screen so much. Cheers!

  • @jakedunn4391
    @jakedunn4391 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Specs aside, Lenovo quality is just bad. I never bought a Lenovo in 10 years.