Great design! How about switching the sink and the fridge to opposite sides? To get a clean work area next to the nook. Also easier piping for the sink
Also gives them room for both fridge and freezer instead of just the one. The hole where they showed possible freezer location can be used for coffee maker on top. Still they idea of putting a cutting board to cover the sink even in that location makes 101% sense.
my sink back up to the "nook" and I frequently unintentionally spray the cushions in the nook. I would choose to flip the sink and counter space. Either way I am sure you guys will create an amazing space!😊
CAD.... cardboard assisted design :-)! Always great to see you two letting your inner architects out! Is there a particular reason you want the sink on nook side of the U shaped galley - wouldn't it be easier to put the fridge/freezer on that side and the sink on the side it was with the engine underneath (or are you worried about leaks onto the engine?) it would seem that that would give you enough space for the 2 draws for the freezer and you'd have a hard surface next to the nook and the plumbing is already there plus if you have splashes out of the sink they wouldn't go into the nook, you wouldn't need a foldable tap or boards to cover it.
It's exciting to have a front row seat for this redesign project. As a sailor with many ocean miles and a similar boat, it seems you're going in a very good direction -- but (of course)I do have some suggestions to consider for the design based on our experience. Our boat is an 1967 Ohlson 41. Her hull shape is similar to Uma, but a bit more overhang and a bit narrower for her length, so in general the usable shape and space is quite similar. Although the hull was designed by Ohlson, the interior was designed for the original owner by Alan Gurney, and he had some ideas which have stood the test of time. Other things, we've modified to suit a sailing couple. A couple of the original designs which we retain, and recommend: 1. Wet cubbies. Our boat was designed as what was common in its day - a race-cruiser, It could (and did) carry a crew of 6 on Bermuda races. Crew wet foulies were rolled up and placed in cubbies just inside of the companionway. There were originally 12 (6 each port and starboard), aft facing openings, each cubby opening about 8" square and each cubby about 20" deep. We removed the starboard set, and widened the quarter berth into a double, but retained the port ones. In 40 years and many ocean crossings we've never had a reason to question cubbies vs. hanging locker for foul weather gear, life vests, and harnesses. If the gear is dry...great. If it's wet, it isn't going to dry in a hanging locker, but it will get everybody else's gear wet. Foulies roll up very compactly and fit nicely in the cubby, and hanging lockers are horribly space hogs. Cubbies do, however, need to be facing fore or aft. We have a top-loading boot locker below the cubbies, and that works nicely as well. 2. Athwartships head. Our head extends entirely across the boat. It's enormous, of course, with the entire floor functioning as a shower pan, with a drainage channel on the aft edge. The walkway is off-center; on the port side is the sink and head (which has a strong SST grab bar alongside to starboard), with various lockers outboard, and on the other side is a hanging locker, small shelf, numerous storage cubbies, lockers, etc. The entire central section is used as a shower, and although you could have a curtain, we don't bother and haven't had any problem with errant spray on the furniture (which is all varnished mahogany). One generally showers with a "telephone" sprayer which is pretty easy to control. There are potential privacy issues when friends are aboard, but a bit of common courtesy (e.g. ask before entering) avoids embarrassment. 3. Corner posts in the Galley. This is such a silly no-brainer, yet it's almost never seen. Each inboard corner of the galley has a post extending from the counter corner to the overhead. When moving around below these are grabbed often enough to require re-varnishing on occasion - but they are incredibly handy for avoiding a fall during a "lurch". We tend to jump down our companionway, grab a post, and spin around it... and we're both now 75! 4. Full length grab rails: Our boat has a steel hull and wood deck, with deck beams. the deck beams project about an inch beyond the cabin sides, and a mahogany rail extends the entire length of the cabin attached to these beam extension. That particular approach wouldn't work, of course, on a fiberglass boat, but there are many similar approaches to creating a continuous grab rail both port and starboard. Like the posts in the galley, we rely on these...a lot. In particularly rough weather it seems like we move forward while hanging from these things like a jungle gym. The aforementioned are a few of the 55 year old innovations we have never had reason to question. One other thing to mention, though, is your new quarter berth. Since it will now be extending much farther toward the centerline, and somewhat lower, you probably have room for a cozy double. When we removed the aforementioned cubbies we lowered and widened our starboard QB, and it served as our in-port double for a five year 30,000 mile cruise. We were younger, of course - and converted our forepeak to a garage, so we didn't have a lot of choice, but it worked fine. I hope these comments may be helpful in thinking through the details of your design. I'd be happy to send along a picture or two if you'd let me know how to do so.
This looks awesome. I am so exited to watch it become reality. But one question: why not switch sink and counter side? To me this has several advantages: 1. You can re-use your existing faucet. 2. You would probably have enough space for whatever fridge/freezer installation you would like (by the way, I would suggest drawers instead of a standing fridge/freezer). 3. You could design the perfect removable storage space under the sink and in front/on top of your electrical motor (removable of course for access to the motor). 4. You wouldn't need some fancy in-folding faucet (as it already folds to your wall) and covering the sink for more workspace becomes easy. Also there would not be come faucet somehow in the middle of the room on which someone could get hooked ore something. 5. Extending work space from the nook into the galley becomes even more convenient with the counter and potentially less dirty/wet with the wet stuff on the side most distant to the nook. 6. Placing drinks, cups, etc. inside the sink from within the cockpit and vice versa becomes really easy. I am really curious what you're reasons would be to do it as you presented? Maybe I am missing something? Or maybe 3 does not allow for enough access space with the sink there!? I would be thrilled if you would answer this here or maybe in the next video. 🙂 I wish you all the best and good progress in making your dream UMA become reality!
I am glad you listed out the same things I thought. I think the sink could fit nice in the corner, left of the stove. Having a counter space near the center of the boat is essential. Even in a large house, people always congregate around the kitchen counter island or peninsula.
I also agree. Our boat had a very similar layout to what they are designing. The sink was in the corner by the stove, which left counter space left of the sink around to the refrigerator and the counter for the peninsula. We only had a cooktop but there was room if I had wanted to replace it with a stove. I think anything that can make a mess (cooktop splatter, splash from the sink) should be away from any other part of the living area.
You guys pretty much have my boat's layout; 1979 Hunter Cherubini 37'. My boat did have a private pilot berth that is like what you want. However, I removed the partition and sliding door and opened everything up. I borrowed your nook idea and expanded the port settee all the way to the bilge cover. Love it!
Hi guys, looks great. One thing. Have you considered the balance? I sailed a boat that always listed because the loading hadn’t been calculated. One tack was very different from the other..
I think the wall for the 'guest stateroom' should not be full height. Leaving a gap above would make the overall space feel more open, and you could put a shelf above the 'stateroom' for quick access to PFDs and such.
The full-height foul-weather locker significantly reduces the open sightline space in the boat. I understand the objective- to create a guest space and keep the foul-weather gear close to the companionway, but... That's a pretty significant compromise for what percentage of time being used?
During their Norway exploration it was daily. Maybe a "transome" like window up on top that could be opened or closed to trap heat or allow air flowage would be better than storage.
I think you are right - it will be a compromise. If it is not at full height, it won't be a seperate space. If it is at full height, it tightens the space of the "living room". So maybe the top could be clear acryl or have a window next to the doorway. So guests can have a screen there, but on passage one can see each other.
Wonderful ideas. It will be such a change when it’s done. Have you considered putting the sink where the fridge would go, and putting the fridge where you have the sink? This would ease access to the motor, prevent water from sloshing forward, and give you a prep/bar area facing the settee area.
Yeah seeing that view from the vee berth was amazing. I could really see it coming together in a much more effective way than before (though I liked their old layout also). Just seeing that companionway from bed will be huge.
@@JohnDoe-jq1brI think you are missing the spirit of this channel. The do everything their own way, as affordably as possible. They used a forklift motor for their propeller ffs!
@@JohnDoe-jq1br While there are many that hold that opinion, it would seem the thousands of ocean miles Dan & Kiki have sailed her through truly awesome conditions may stand in contrast to that opinion. I for one am glad they are breathing new life into UMA despite the fact she is not what many would deem classically blue water pedigreed.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 They were on a shoe string budget back then. Now they make the big bucks. To try and play the broke college students again, is an insult to viewers. They can afford a refit on a real ocean going boat with some room on it. I loved watching them fix up their boat when they had 30,000 viewers. I'm going to guess that they are spending way less time on their boat than they try to make up believe. Nobody with their income would live in that little cave, that doesn't sail very well.
Your blend of design inventiveness and experience-based practicality continues to impress. Many "yacht designers", someof whom clearly have never been so sea, could benefit from your expertise.
Have you thought about flipping the sink and fridge in your design? It would give you a nice countertop towards the nook which you might be able to use while not using the galley. It as well leave you more space towards the electric motor.
Got a little sea sick during the oculus parts, but it is super cool to be able to visualize the changes. The boat nerd in me wants part deux to hear about the structural improvements, portlight changes, tankage etc. I just love how you all just go for it and dream big in a little space. Finally I assume you all know about the Duracell project, Matt has been doing amazing fiberglass work, and his construction techniques are very clever but also doable. I have learned a boatload (sorry) from watching that design/build project. Obviously a much bigger platform than UMA, but still from the same ethos of throw-the book-out-and-dream. the build your own foam core fiberglass skinned panels may not be doable for you guys in your construction space, but would enable you to "easily" make the larger panels, so nicely modeled in carboard (a great tool BTW). Well done D&K!
You guys should do storage steps for the companionway for extra kitchen storage and/or quick grab items going in and out. You can still have the steps lift up and out of the way by using heavy duty gas struts or hydraulic assist, or you can have it as a separate unit that can be disconnected from the wall, maybe on wheels or something, so that you're able to slide it out of the way and be able to access the engine compartment. Obviously it's not a huge amount of storage but on a small boat, every space counts and that little bit of space under each step is just empty and wasted space, when you could use it for more storage and have the steps have dual purpose. You could even use the ladder-like steps from your design but just make each step a little thicker and have the top of the steps open up like a lid/hatch. It would be pretty shallow stroage but still useful for maybe some tools, utensils, pens, papers, or even plastic wraps and foil. Just some ideas to maybe think about! 😊
Looks like a really good layout. Well planned you two. Mind you the VR switching back and forth made me a touch dizzy...but then again I'm dizzy and daffy most of the time and don't need drugs or VRs to make me daffier or dizzier. Oh well back to my normal stumbling and bumbling around. GREAT job you two!!
Interesting video with the virtual tour. A couple of thoughts: -Have you considered some type of backsplash to keep the nook drier? -I'm a little surprised that you went to the long work bench for production rather than keeping your breakfast bar/table design; I thought it was great. Where do you sit down inside to eat and look at each other?
I was thinking the same. Your round nav desk, breakfast table was awesome. To get a nice dinning area you could make the middle part of the nook a convertible table. Or some part of the desk could slide out into the companionway to be a table where 2 can look at each other. Nevertheless I liked the tour a lot! Good luck with that project!
Wow it's awesome, you're the most technologically advanced adventure/sailing channel! As and owner of Quest I will be looking forward for you guys to finish up VR project and make it available for the audience to do a VR tour of Uma.
When prepping meals, it's much more comfortable, sociable, on bench space facing the living area (breakfast bar). A stainless steel sink bench for prep, with chopping board, convenient to wash as you go. Bin on the end handy for waste. Freezer box in corner, cooker on starboard wall, rangehood (also a night light) & dry racks above. Fridge & Pantry (with baskets) on stern wall. V berth is uncomfortable, best spot imo for loo, under the chain locker, don't need headspace to sit, Dan can't miss if sitting, then shower one side, basin the other, slide door closes it off. Sofa Bunk beds either side with privacy curtains (only certain times you, or guests, need to share a bed). Uncomfortable to walk on, but lots of head space atm, for Dan anyway 😉
8:25 the wet locker is the purest indicator to tell if something’s designed as a bluewater boat. Forget keel construction, handholds or tankage. If they cared to put in a wet locker, you can be confident everything else is also taken care of.
Glad to see where you might be going with the new design. With your YT posting delay, you may now (IRL) already be much further along with the actual implementation than what is shown this video. Still, I would like to provide some feedback on what we are shown here... 1. What have you calculated for the new weight distribution? Given all the galley and other stores at the settee are starboard and it doesn't seem much counter weight is to port, my concern is the boat could list quite a lot to starboard. Can some heavier item such as the fridge or freezer be moved to port, perhaps to the lower half of your wet locker area? 2. Suggest leaving the sink on the rear wall under the current/old pot filler and move the new fridge to the settee side. This move would solve the faucet and fridge clearance issues you mention in the video, plus could be an improvement on the design. 3. If the wet locker door is built full length (floor to ceiling), possibly it could be built to slide back and act as a privacy door to your pilot/guest berth, instead of needing a curtain. We frequently see similar closet sliding door designs a lot in catamarans to close off owner hull sides from the upper salon area. Depends of course if you end up changing the design due to concern #1 above. Cheers and good luck.
You'll probably want a splash guard between the sink and the nook if that's where you want to place it. You could have a 10-20cm glass guard and LED underneath it. But switching the sink and fridge might also be a consideration as you'll probably spend less time in front of the sink when cooking. You could also have a fridge with both front and top opening, so when you're on the "nook-side" you could still grab a beer. A tiny splash guard could still be beneficial to keep stuff from falling down to the nook.
Small splash back behind sink will hide tap and give a touch of seperation. Also a post on inboard end will let you run a storage locker across the celling. good storage for spice and ect..
I liked the VR view of the model walkthrough. I had a boat where the hanging locker door doubled as the V-berth door and could latch closed. I kind of liked that it did two things
I absolutely love this! Quick question though, why don’t you guys keep the sink where it was/ on the other side? SOOO excited to see you guys bring this into reality!! Love from the US❤
@@rjbennett9939 I agree. Also better social flow and camera angles on the prep surface, if they're doing a cooking segment, or something. The sink in the model is kinda out of place.
You were absolutely extremely creative in allowing us to be part of your design team. Loved it. Thanks from northern Michigan. Had to pull our boat today, getting ready for winter.
As a viewer thinking of you two, it would be great to see some vendors on-board for the project. You deserve the latest and greatest hi-tech cooking, hvac, navigation and plumbing equipment.
Regarding the Quarter berth you may want to consider a different tack. I have a 1981 Pearson 37, basically the next gen of the Pearson 36. Considering the amount of time the QBerth is used for sleeping it seems like you are taking up an enormous amount of space with the enclosure to fit the far end of the berth in the new design. Really chops up the interior. When DISTANCE 21:22 racing I sleep in the Q-berth and go in head first. You may want to consider this way to sleep in the Q berth. On one tack you are laying against the hull with your feet below your head, incredibly comfortable and supportive. Really more comfortable than my bed at home. On the opposite tack you are against the engine fore-aft bulkhead and again very comfortable with feet slightly below your head. But more importantly, you have privacy and relative quiet, crew can move about the interior and not disturb you, even turn on the lights use a small hanging towel can block the light. In addition you are not creating a large intrusion into the cabin area. The area behind the cabin bulkhead is wide open and suitable for all kinds of storage etc. The Q berth is very wide allowing you to possibly make a double. Add in a bit of ventilation and you have the best sea berth on the boat, a huge storage area when in port and a very useful guest bedroom with some reasonable privacy by hanging some curtains. All the best to you both. check out the interior layout of the Pearson 37 from the early 1980’s.
I like your proposed galley setup; it's very similar to that of a C&C 36 I sailed on awhile back and quite enjoyed using. The C&C 36 galley has a bunch of useful features that don't add much to usability at anchor but make it awesome in a seaway. There was a bar across the front of the stove at waist level that was useful both as a grab point and tether point. You could also string a line from the counter by the stairs to the counter by the sink (via nice looking aluminum corner pieces) to sort of lock yourself in the galley and reduce the odds that you'd fall out of the "U" underway when the galley was on the weather side. There was also a vertical grab bar next to the sink that made for easy passage forward. These considerations were quite clever and made life underway better than you'd expect from most production boats. The sink was in the same spot as yours but had a backsplash which made it more of a separate space. I'd worry that your sink with no backsplash would be a problem for whatever was behind it. Maybe engineer some sort of folding backsplash that moves with the faucet? Or locate the sink on the aft countertop?
Love the sink position. Seen and used it in production boats that had it in that place. They did have at least a bit of a screen to prevent water spilling and/or splashing on the nook though.
There is something i noticed on my trailer sailer that I really like. The v berth is sealed and it has compartments along each side that are also are water tight. What has occured to me is that this design essentially makes it a double hulled boat. If i ever puncture the hull, all it would do is fill the compartment since the compartments are all above the water line. Even my through hull is in a water tight box. A couple months ago, i got myself a 41ft Morgan Out Island that I'm certain to eventually redesign. When I do that, i will certainly adopt the same idea, at least to the front half of the boat. I bring this up because it may be an idea you'd maybe not considered and this would be the time to incorporate it.
I love the CAD .. "Cardboard Asisted Design" Dead laugh... excellent... Can't wait to see the cardboard or VR become true reality. Good luck and courage..
its about time you guys started embracing vr tech.. there's sooo much that you can do with VR. i'm able to 3d model my 3d prints in VR, and then print them, and have them exactly the same as they was in VR. likely, because VR can use STM files, you can even do prints for big 3d cut tables for wood of whatever you want. literally, you can build everything in VR then print and assemble. its amazing tech.
Nice!!! I've worked a bit with 3D architectural software, with walkthroughs and all, but what you've done is totally next level. I love the way you've incorporated the VR simulation to your model... So cool!!! I don't know how long (or how much effort) was put into converting your model into VR, but my gosh, well worth it! Great work, and a great episode. Cheers Dan and Kika, well done.
I absolutely LOVE the design! You are very good at thinking things through. Just remember to put more that one foot rest under the work bench. One back and two forward is the goal really - Ive worked very. many. tidious. years at a PC/other, and the one thing you always miss is when the foot rest isn't there. Worked nights at our national numbers information and BOY did we use the foot rests! And that will make the knees hurt less, your back become less strained and you feel less "unmoved" when you get up. I am posetiveily sure you will find a cool way to give you footrests. And note - I didns say you need backrest. You dont. Its for the knees and neck, really. Have fun! /Catta from Sweden
Hi guys! Cracking on full steam there. The galley layout... I would put the sink on the stern side, where it can have a watertight splashback, and plumbing is easy and short, or against the hull because its a weird shaped space, and keep the saloon side as your main prep area. Not only is it more social, in that you can face anyone in the saloon while you prep a meal, but ALSO... its better for filming content, and not filming your back, looking over your shoulder. That means the fridge will be under the main prep area, which also makes sense. 24:00 illustrates my point perfectly, I think.
Way to go.......one thing (for sure) I would considered looking in to it would be a differend low profile galley faucet? loosing a balance when entering down below one may fall over the sink and the faucet will cause some "pain"? It sort of look like out of place as it is, everything else is so smooth etc. but your focus will be on the faucet? Built my Endurance 35 intrerior totally out of cardboard before the deck, was happy with it for the next 15 + years!
If you switch the sink and fridge a splash won't be ending up in the settee and it looks like if you do that a chest type fridge would be bigger . Just a thought
Are you moving the chaine-plates on the outside of the hull? Placing the bed on the lowest center of gravity = so much more comfort and relaxed immersion way below the waterline, also great soundproof.
Flip retractable sink made for boat already exist as you know... Basically, it seems that you are doing a replica of what are millions of boats out there, yet I have seen home-boats with ingenious one of a kind sailboat interior and exterior design. Stepping out of the box...
Very cool to see your ideas. I'm sure it'll be even more beautiful than imma was before. Question: are you planning on keeping the Norwegian Wood stove? As a northerner myself, that was always one of the coolest additions you made to Uma.
Ok, well that was brilliant. The 3d walkthrough with cardboard templating mocked up a wildly custom interior and kitchen at warp speed. Wow, bloody well done. I thought this refit was folly but now I see what you wanted to showcase here.
Love the design! The only thing that I see, and a few other commenters see, is the sink location seems difficult. I think the sink could fit nice in the corner, left of the stove. Having a counter space near the center of the boat is essential. Even in a large house, people ALWAYS congregate around the kitchen counter/island/peninsula.
And wouldn't ya know it! After five years living at sea we just posted our first ever boat tour to our Patrons then a moment later the notification came up for yours. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing for us but our fingers are crossed. Better go and watch yours now!
When filming a VR tour ...... for the sake of other veiwers move your FPS vision just a little slower - pretend you are underwater or in space, it will make it a much nicer experience to watch. • It seemes like a no brainer ...... swap the sink around to be on the bulkhead rather than against the couch/settee • Cabinet coners should have large bevels or large diameter bullnose (verticle and horizontal) • Since you are on a heeling monohull and horizontal surfaces like your editing station have to be cleared when making way anyway ..... it might be a consideration to make the editing station bench lip foldable (fold down to form shelf/desktop) quick secure stowage of stuff and provide a little more corridor room for traversing
Your channel is the best guys. I love how capable in any situation you both are and your repairs and methods are so similar to how I go about these undertakings - bite off more than you anticipate every time (OCD for me!) then plan the hell out of the repair, then as my wife says make it breathe fire. Thanks for the amazing chance to follow along..
Thanks for the tour. We like the straight thru walkway to get forward. Same as our Niagara Encore. Great idea to have the hanging locker near the companionway. (We don’t) You didn’t mentioned tankage (water and fuel), just storage. Looking forward to more details on this as you work it all out.
I would have the sink (R/H drainer) where you are placing the fridge. Allowing for a cub/storage under the drainer and the fridge opposite where you said the sink allowing for a nice work surface with may be some kind of see through shelving for a spice rack (pined by rods) etc. Preparing food you can face into your boat and chat away when in company. Just my kind of set up.
suggestion: great job. how difficult would it be to either put a low greade heater or a heated blower in the wet locker to dry things out, warm then up before putting them on and to keep them from mold and mildew? You two do great work.
Love it! You might want to move the Vbirth door to the edge of the living area. That way the Vbirth has private access to the head. Or add a pocket door on each end of the head hallway.
Looking good! Look at the sink for the Jeanneau 44 DS it will solve your issue. Facet is on the right and a sliding/folding top covers the sink. So nothing removable that can go flying around.
I've been following Acorn to Arabella for years, and that channel has just transitioned from a "construction" journey to a "travel" journey. Your channel is doing the opposite - equally interesting to follow.
I want to see you doing the VR whilst underway, in a good sea. I imagine instant seasickness in even the most hardened sailors. I also loved the cardboard mock ups but my mind went to Leo on the 'Tally Ho' showing us the finest craftsmanship with this teak cardboard from Burma. I have always watched you for your outstanding sailing videos, they have revived many memories. Now I am watching you for design tips! Keep it up, Love you both.
( in my experience,😊) a full sink and a half sink are enough. And the stove as low and close to the centreline ideally as you can get it-tricky one to do - but then when you’re hard on the wind it is not ‘ above’ the chef and subject to inertia imho dangerous.. you can never have enough counter top space.. cardboard full size mock up beats the other cad hands down sometimes for pure ergonomics .. the VR is awesome. You guys are doing great and with so much experience going into your new interior, fabulous to watch it transform .. in my last boat -R 36 - the interior was nigh on perfect but interestingly the galley/ chart table office were offset over the build years a teensy bit in favour of the galley..no doubt you will tweak any additional bulkheads or enclosures too. Looking forward to seeing your ideas come to fruition. Great job.
The VR tour was cool guys! There's always a risk on a sailing channel to stop sailing and do a complete refit like you're doing. A lot of viewers are most interested in sailing after all. But you guys are keeping it interesting and I think that's solid. I'm looking forward to getting you back on the water, but keep the cool stuff coming guys. Cheers!
Have you ever connected with Sailing GBU? Very similar layout. I realize you have specifics and different modes. You are all doing great things. Thank you for taking us on the journey!
Super … wish I could fast forward and see the end result 😂 You’re gonna LOVE my ideas, 1- I wouldn’t take the hanging locker near the pilot birth all the way to the top, it makes your living space seem much smaller especially in winter when you are down their a lot. Keep it at say maximum 120 cm high (enough to hang your wet gear inside. 2- You can have a vertical board that slides up and hooks in place to create future privacy when needed. 3- I would split the “Utube editing station” in two and turn them 90 degrees so that you are facing back to back and still have a large central bench that you both use to sit on back to back and can complement the Nook too (Giant screen can remain in Kika’s station and flip out when you watch TV / and Dan’s station can be mainly a Nav Station 4- maybe the storage under the sink pull out like racks into the corridor space and not into the galley as it is a bit tight 5- I think a back splash is needed at the back of the sink to avoid water coming all over your nook cushions (maybe also add a vertical board that pulls up and hooks into space, could be fun if preparing a surprise too) I love the ideas of the big ceiling hatches they let in so much light and increase the feeling of space What is happening on the opposite side of the pilot birth ? Huge storage from above deck ? All the best, I am loving it George Papadopoulo
I always wonder why hammocks are not used on passage, especially in heavy weather? They have been used on sailing vessels and navy ships for centuries. When I see parents struggling with youngsters and trying to keep them safe from falling out of bed, or for nap time, a hammock just makes sense. So comfortable too. My favourite place to nap!
The entire time you have been saying "U shaped galley" i thought for sure it would have been rotated 90 degrees against the stern and just be huge where the opening would be everything and the boat would be more open, similar layout as before but with more stuff on the right. But with the cardboard this makes sense
Amazing design! Hope you guys are thinking about a splashscreen behind the faucet in the kitchen, will probably save your lovely couch from mold in the future! Hope you guys are thinking about designing boats for production, because you have some amazing ideas that will revolutionize the small boat segment!
Glad you mentioned it, I was thinking that. Maybe this could be the 'board' cover over the sink - after all, you wont be running the tap with the cover on?
In that same area you might consider a vertical pole/handhold at the corner of the sink ie the next steadying feature after stepping forwards from the companionway. This could also serve as an attachment point for the foldable sink cover/splashback
Excellent edit job on this video. Looks like a great plan. I hope an a year there can me a massive meet up of all the sailing youtube channels somewhere. Bobby is getting a new boat and several others. Keep up the work and dont get a couch.
Fabulous design. Perhaps the hanging wet locker should move back to the hull and waist high. It will open up the most cogested area. The bulkhead behind can then begina good foot back opening up visibility , walk soace and air flow. Top of the locker can be the " catchall counter" which every living space needs. Good luck and stay safe
Hey its so exciting to be able to design a galley from scratch ! Here are some thougths based on my experience on my own boat. I have a Beneteau 423 with two cabins, with the galley to starbord. It is great to cook in a seaway when the boat heels and rolls. But most of the time we're at anchor. Anyway, when a person is standing in the galley, access to the trash bin and the fridge is completely blocked. So if my partner is cooking, I can't throw anything in the trash bin and I can't get a cold beer by myself. Very annoying. My fifty cents.
The new design is exciting as it is a work in progress! Is weight distribution across the boat something to take into consideration? Like weight and balance on a airplane.
Love the virtual tour! How about a 360 camera above with a feed somewhere convenient below. Also, a nav station feed to the pilot berth so whomever is there can look at it instead of getting up to ask for a sitrep.
I love the new galley, however the tap seems awkward. Is there a reason that you aren't leaving the sink at the back of the kitchen and putting the fridge where the sink was gonna go? I love the covered over sink for party space and food layout, it makes a lot of sense, so why not leave it as a counter top?
Love the new layout! Just a heads-up that I forgot to consider once was the splash from the sink, I recommend having a rim/raised panel at the back of the sink to prevent splashing your nook.
Great design! How about switching the sink and the fridge to opposite sides? To get a clean work area next to the nook. Also easier piping for the sink
Also no tap/faucet to accidentally grab onto... :)
great suggestion. C&C 35 style
Also gives them room for both fridge and freezer instead of just the one. The hole where they showed possible freezer location can be used for coffee maker on top. Still they idea of putting a cutting board to cover the sink even in that location makes 101% sense.
I'd be concerned about the Faucet and Drain that close to the Electric Engine - No leaks is always the plan but... electricity and water...
my sink back up to the "nook" and I frequently unintentionally spray the cushions in the nook. I would choose to flip the sink and counter space. Either way I am sure you guys will create an amazing space!😊
CAD.... cardboard assisted design :-)! Always great to see you two letting your inner architects out! Is there a particular reason you want the sink on nook side of the U shaped galley - wouldn't it be easier to put the fridge/freezer on that side and the sink on the side it was with the engine underneath (or are you worried about leaks onto the engine?) it would seem that that would give you enough space for the 2 draws for the freezer and you'd have a hard surface next to the nook and the plumbing is already there plus if you have splashes out of the sink they wouldn't go into the nook, you wouldn't need a foldable tap or boards to cover it.
sound proof the hull!!
It's exciting to have a front row seat for this redesign project. As a sailor with many ocean miles and a similar boat, it seems you're going in a very good direction -- but (of course)I do have some suggestions to consider for the design based on our experience. Our boat is an 1967 Ohlson 41. Her hull shape is similar to Uma, but a bit more overhang and a bit narrower for her length, so in general the usable shape and space is quite similar. Although the hull was designed by Ohlson, the interior was designed for the original owner by Alan Gurney, and he had some ideas which have stood the test of time. Other things, we've modified to suit a sailing couple. A couple of the original designs which we retain, and recommend:
1. Wet cubbies. Our boat was designed as what was common in its day - a race-cruiser, It could (and did) carry a crew of 6 on Bermuda races. Crew wet foulies were rolled up and placed in cubbies just inside of the companionway. There were originally 12 (6 each port and starboard), aft facing openings, each cubby opening about 8" square and each cubby about 20" deep. We removed the starboard set, and widened the quarter berth into a double, but retained the port ones. In 40 years and many ocean crossings we've never had a reason to question cubbies vs. hanging locker for foul weather gear, life vests, and harnesses. If the gear is dry...great. If it's wet, it isn't going to dry in a hanging locker, but it will get everybody else's gear wet. Foulies roll up very compactly and fit nicely in the cubby, and hanging lockers are horribly space hogs. Cubbies do, however, need to be facing fore or aft. We have a top-loading boot locker below the cubbies, and that works nicely as well.
2. Athwartships head. Our head extends entirely across the boat. It's enormous, of course, with the entire floor functioning as a shower pan, with a drainage channel on the aft edge. The walkway is off-center; on the port side is the sink and head (which has a strong SST grab bar alongside to starboard), with various lockers outboard, and on the other side is a hanging locker, small shelf, numerous storage cubbies, lockers, etc. The entire central section is used as a shower, and although you could have a curtain, we don't bother and haven't had any problem with errant spray on the furniture (which is all varnished mahogany). One generally showers with a "telephone" sprayer which is pretty easy to control. There are potential privacy issues when friends are aboard, but a bit of common courtesy (e.g. ask before entering) avoids embarrassment.
3. Corner posts in the Galley. This is such a silly no-brainer, yet it's almost never seen. Each inboard corner of the galley has a post extending from the counter corner to the overhead. When moving around below these are grabbed often enough to require re-varnishing on occasion - but they are incredibly handy for avoiding a fall during a "lurch". We tend to jump down our companionway, grab a post, and spin around it... and we're both now 75!
4. Full length grab rails: Our boat has a steel hull and wood deck, with deck beams. the deck beams project about an inch beyond the cabin sides, and a mahogany rail extends the entire length of the cabin attached to these beam extension. That particular approach wouldn't work, of course, on a fiberglass boat, but there are many similar approaches to creating a continuous grab rail both port and starboard. Like the posts in the galley, we rely on these...a lot. In particularly rough weather it seems like we move forward while hanging from these things like a jungle gym.
The aforementioned are a few of the 55 year old innovations we have never had reason to question. One other thing to mention, though, is your new quarter berth. Since it will now be extending much farther toward the centerline, and somewhat lower, you probably have room for a cozy double. When we removed the aforementioned cubbies we lowered and widened our starboard QB, and it served as our in-port double for a five year 30,000 mile cruise. We were younger, of course - and converted our forepeak to a garage, so we didn't have a lot of choice, but it worked fine.
I hope these comments may be helpful in thinking through the details of your design. I'd be happy to send along a picture or two if you'd let me know how to do so.
This looks awesome. I am so exited to watch it become reality. But one question: why not switch sink and counter side?
To me this has several advantages:
1. You can re-use your existing faucet.
2. You would probably have enough space for whatever fridge/freezer installation you would like (by the way, I would suggest drawers instead of a standing fridge/freezer).
3. You could design the perfect removable storage space under the sink and in front/on top of your electrical motor (removable of course for access to the motor).
4. You wouldn't need some fancy in-folding faucet (as it already folds to your wall) and covering the sink for more workspace becomes easy. Also there would not be come faucet somehow in the middle of the room on which someone could get hooked ore something.
5. Extending work space from the nook into the galley becomes even more convenient with the counter and potentially less dirty/wet with the wet stuff on the side most distant to the nook.
6. Placing drinks, cups, etc. inside the sink from within the cockpit and vice versa becomes really easy.
I am really curious what you're reasons would be to do it as you presented? Maybe I am missing something? Or maybe 3 does not allow for enough access space with the sink there!?
I would be thrilled if you would answer this here or maybe in the next video. 🙂
I wish you all the best and good progress in making your dream UMA become reality!
I am glad you listed out the same things I thought. I think the sink could fit nice in the corner, left of the stove. Having a counter space near the center of the boat is essential. Even in a large house, people always congregate around the kitchen counter island or peninsula.
I also agree. Our boat had a very similar layout to what they are designing. The sink was in the corner by the stove, which left counter space left of the sink around to the refrigerator and the counter for the peninsula. We only had a cooktop but there was room if I had wanted to replace it with a stove. I think anything that can make a mess (cooktop splatter, splash from the sink) should be away from any other part of the living area.
You guys pretty much have my boat's layout; 1979 Hunter Cherubini 37'. My boat did have a private pilot berth that is like what you want. However, I removed the partition and sliding door and opened everything up. I borrowed your nook idea and expanded the port settee all the way to the bilge cover. Love it!
Hi guys, looks great. One thing. Have you considered the balance? I sailed a boat that always listed because the loading hadn’t been calculated. One tack was very different from the other..
I was thinking the same thing.
No mention of water tanks, holding tank and battery location. They will also be a major factor.
I think the wall for the 'guest stateroom' should not be full height.
Leaving a gap above would make the overall space feel more open, and you could put a shelf above the 'stateroom' for quick access to PFDs and such.
The full-height foul-weather locker significantly reduces the open sightline space in the boat. I understand the objective- to create a guest space and keep the foul-weather gear close to the companionway, but... That's a pretty significant compromise for what percentage of time being used?
During their Norway exploration it was daily. Maybe a "transome" like window up on top that could be opened or closed to trap heat or allow air flowage would be better than storage.
I think you are right - it will be a compromise. If it is not at full height, it won't be a seperate space. If it is at full height, it tightens the space of the "living room". So maybe the top could be clear acryl or have a window next to the doorway. So guests can have a screen there, but on passage one can see each other.
Wonderful ideas. It will be such a change when it’s done. Have you considered putting the sink where the fridge would go, and putting the fridge where you have the sink? This would ease access to the motor, prevent water from sloshing forward, and give you a prep/bar area facing the settee area.
That is absolutely fantastic. We are so excited for the Uma update! The VR was awesome even if it is rough draft.🎉
Yeah seeing that view from the vee berth was amazing. I could really see it coming together in a much more effective way than before (though I liked their old layout also). Just seeing that companionway from bed will be huge.
Not me. Uma was never a good ocean going boat. They should upgrade to a bigger and better boat. Just my opinion.
@@JohnDoe-jq1brI think you are missing the spirit of this channel. The do everything their own way, as affordably as possible. They used a forklift motor for their propeller ffs!
@@JohnDoe-jq1br While there are many that hold that opinion, it would seem the thousands of ocean miles Dan & Kiki have sailed her through truly awesome conditions may stand in contrast to that opinion. I for one am glad they are breathing new life into UMA despite the fact she is not what many would deem classically blue water pedigreed.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 They were on a shoe string budget back then. Now they make the big bucks. To try and play the broke college students again, is an insult to viewers. They can afford a refit on a real ocean going boat with some room on it. I loved watching them fix up their boat when they had 30,000 viewers. I'm going to guess that they are spending way less time on their boat than they try to make up believe. Nobody with their income would live in that little cave, that doesn't sail very well.
Your blend of design inventiveness and experience-based practicality continues to impress. Many "yacht designers", someof whom clearly have never been so sea, could benefit from your expertise.
don't forget a little place for your fire stove !
Have you thought about flipping the sink and fridge in your design? It would give you a nice countertop towards the nook which you might be able to use while not using the galley. It as well leave you more space towards the electric motor.
Great to see you guys building Uma the way you want her instead of just going out and buying a new boat.
And one that gets damaged in shipping like Billy & Sierra's. That was heartbreaking.
@@paulas_lens no kidding. Hate to see that. Also Ruby Rose is having some teething issues with some of their equipment.
@@paulas_lensTheir catamaran? I just watched some of the recent videos and I couldn't find what the damage was. Was it bad?
Got a little sea sick during the oculus parts, but it is super cool to be able to visualize the changes. The boat nerd in me wants part deux to hear about the structural improvements, portlight changes, tankage etc. I just love how you all just go for it and dream big in a little space. Finally I assume you all know about the Duracell project, Matt has been doing amazing fiberglass work, and his construction techniques are very clever but also doable. I have learned a boatload (sorry) from watching that design/build project. Obviously a much bigger platform than UMA, but still from the same ethos of throw-the book-out-and-dream. the build your own foam core fiberglass skinned panels may not be doable for you guys in your construction space, but would enable you to "easily" make the larger panels, so nicely modeled in carboard (a great tool BTW). Well done D&K!
You guys are going to make it epic. I think it goes to show how much life is still left in these older hulls. Awesome
You guys should do storage steps for the companionway for extra kitchen storage and/or quick grab items going in and out.
You can still have the steps lift up and out of the way by using heavy duty gas struts or hydraulic assist, or you can have it as a separate unit that can be disconnected from the wall, maybe on wheels or something, so that you're able to slide it out of the way and be able to access the engine compartment.
Obviously it's not a huge amount of storage but on a small boat, every space counts and that little bit of space under each step is just empty and wasted space, when you could use it for more storage and have the steps have dual purpose.
You could even use the ladder-like steps from your design but just make each step a little thicker and have the top of the steps open up like a lid/hatch. It would be pretty shallow stroage but still useful for maybe some tools, utensils, pens, papers, or even plastic wraps and foil.
Just some ideas to maybe think about! 😊
Oh we’ve got plans.
Wow what a well thought out layout. A great opportunity to translate your experience into your own new boat design!
Incredibly well thought out !!! I felt honoured seeing you architect minds at work !
I’d flip the sink and. Reefer. Solves a few problems; plumbing, faucet, reefer access.
Looks like a really good layout. Well planned you two. Mind you the VR switching back and forth made me a touch dizzy...but then again I'm dizzy and daffy most of the time and don't need drugs or VRs to make me daffier or dizzier. Oh well back to my normal stumbling and bumbling around. GREAT job you two!!
Interesting video with the virtual tour. A couple of thoughts:
-Have you considered some type of backsplash to keep the nook drier?
-I'm a little surprised that you went to the long work bench for production rather than keeping your breakfast bar/table design; I thought it was great. Where do you sit down inside to eat and look at each other?
Come on now, we just can’t give everything away… ;)
You will make a Japanese table???? @@SailingUma
I was thinking the same. Your round nav desk, breakfast table was awesome.
To get a nice dinning area you could make the middle part of the nook a convertible table. Or some part of the desk could slide out into the companionway to be a table where 2 can look at each other.
Nevertheless I liked the tour a lot! Good luck with that project!
Wow it's awesome, you're the most technologically advanced adventure/sailing channel! As and owner of Quest I will be looking forward for you guys to finish up VR project and make it available for the audience to do a VR tour of Uma.
When prepping meals, it's much more comfortable, sociable, on bench space facing the living area (breakfast bar). A stainless steel sink bench for prep, with chopping board, convenient to wash as you go. Bin on the end handy for waste. Freezer box in corner, cooker on starboard wall, rangehood (also a night light) & dry racks above. Fridge & Pantry (with baskets) on stern wall.
V berth is uncomfortable, best spot imo for loo, under the chain locker, don't need headspace to sit, Dan can't miss if sitting, then shower one side, basin the other, slide door closes it off.
Sofa Bunk beds either side with privacy curtains (only certain times you, or guests, need to share a bed).
Uncomfortable to walk on, but lots of head space atm, for Dan anyway 😉
Love the new interior. It's funny seeing a boat interior designed for actual sailing vs what the major boat manufacturers are selling.
8:25 the wet locker is the purest indicator to tell if something’s designed as a bluewater boat. Forget keel construction, handholds or tankage. If they cared to put in a wet locker, you can be confident everything else is also taken care of.
It’s going to be exciting watching cardboard become reality. I think you guys are off to a great start!
Glad to see where you might be going with the new design. With your YT posting delay, you may now (IRL) already be much further along with the actual implementation than what is shown this video. Still, I would like to provide some feedback on what we are shown here...
1. What have you calculated for the new weight distribution? Given all the galley and other stores at the settee are starboard and it doesn't seem much counter weight is to port, my concern is the boat could list quite a lot to starboard. Can some heavier item such as the fridge or freezer be moved to port, perhaps to the lower half of your wet locker area?
2. Suggest leaving the sink on the rear wall under the current/old pot filler and move the new fridge to the settee side. This move would solve the faucet and fridge clearance issues you mention in the video, plus could be an improvement on the design.
3. If the wet locker door is built full length (floor to ceiling), possibly it could be built to slide back and act as a privacy door to your pilot/guest berth, instead of needing a curtain. We frequently see similar closet sliding door designs a lot in catamarans to close off owner hull sides from the upper salon area. Depends of course if you end up changing the design due to concern #1 above.
Cheers and good luck.
I would flip the sink and frig locations.
You'll probably want a splash guard between the sink and the nook if that's where you want to place it. You could have a 10-20cm glass guard and LED underneath it.
But switching the sink and fridge might also be a consideration as you'll probably spend less time in front of the sink when cooking. You could also have a fridge with both front and top opening, so when you're on the "nook-side" you could still grab a beer.
A tiny splash guard could still be beneficial to keep stuff from falling down to the nook.
Small splash back behind sink will hide tap and give a touch of seperation. Also a post on inboard end will let you run a storage locker across the celling. good storage for spice and ect..
Actually using VR to design and build the interior is a practical application of this dreamed about future we all live in now.
Not that its a competition but easily the best boat channel on TH-cam.
I liked the VR view of the model walkthrough. I had a boat where the hanging locker door doubled as the V-berth door and could latch closed. I kind of liked that it did two things
Nice design work. That is the 80% of the boat. The creation of the actual space. Nice job with design tools.
I absolutely love this! Quick question though, why don’t you guys keep the sink where it was/ on the other side? SOOO excited to see you guys bring this into reality!! Love from the US❤
I was thinking the same thing, just for backsplash benefits. Then there could be a bigger fridge.
@@rjbennett9939 I agree. Also better social flow and camera angles on the prep surface, if they're doing a cooking segment, or something. The sink in the model is kinda out of place.
Absolutely.
You were absolutely extremely creative in allowing us to be part of your design team. Loved it. Thanks from northern Michigan. Had to pull our boat today, getting ready for winter.
As a viewer thinking of you two, it would be great to see some vendors on-board for the project. You deserve the latest and greatest hi-tech cooking, hvac, navigation and plumbing equipment.
Wooohooo! The energy is building now!!! What an exciting stage of the project. Thanks for taking us along for the ride! :D
And I thought using ‘cardboard mock-ups” was the high tech !👍🏻👍🏻. Then You pull the Goggle Hands ‘thingies’ 🤔🤣🤣🥰. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Regarding the Quarter berth you may want to consider a different tack. I have a 1981 Pearson 37, basically the next gen of the Pearson 36. Considering the amount of time the QBerth is used for sleeping it seems like you are taking up an enormous amount of space with the enclosure to fit the far end of the berth in the new design. Really chops up the interior.
When DISTANCE 21:22 racing I sleep in the Q-berth and go in head first. You may want to consider this way to sleep in the Q berth. On one tack you are laying against the hull with your feet below your head, incredibly comfortable and supportive. Really more comfortable than my bed at home. On the opposite tack you are against the engine fore-aft bulkhead and again very comfortable with feet slightly below your head. But more importantly, you have privacy and relative quiet, crew can move about the interior and not disturb you, even turn on the lights use a small hanging towel can block the light.
In addition you are not creating a large intrusion into the cabin area. The area behind the cabin bulkhead is wide open and suitable for all kinds of storage etc. The Q berth is very wide allowing you to possibly make a double. Add in a bit of ventilation and you have the best sea berth on the boat, a huge storage area when in port and a very useful guest bedroom with some reasonable privacy by hanging some curtains.
All the best to you both.
check out the interior layout of the Pearson 37 from the early 1980’s.
I'm sort of amazed. You've taken Uma down to the hull and totally re-designed a Pearson 34. How exciting. I'm agog to see it come together.
This has to be one of the best box forts ever constructed. Can't wait to see the pillow fort when it's time to do the cushions!
I like your proposed galley setup; it's very similar to that of a C&C 36 I sailed on awhile back and quite enjoyed using.
The C&C 36 galley has a bunch of useful features that don't add much to usability at anchor but make it awesome in a seaway. There was a bar across the front of the stove at waist level that was useful both as a grab point and tether point. You could also string a line from the counter by the stairs to the counter by the sink (via nice looking aluminum corner pieces) to sort of lock yourself in the galley and reduce the odds that you'd fall out of the "U" underway when the galley was on the weather side. There was also a vertical grab bar next to the sink that made for easy passage forward. These considerations were quite clever and made life underway better than you'd expect from most production boats.
The sink was in the same spot as yours but had a backsplash which made it more of a separate space. I'd worry that your sink with no backsplash would be a problem for whatever was behind it. Maybe engineer some sort of folding backsplash that moves with the faucet? Or locate the sink on the aft countertop?
Love the sink position. Seen and used it in production boats that had it in that place. They did have at least a bit of a screen to prevent water spilling and/or splashing on the nook though.
There is something i noticed on my trailer sailer that I really like. The v berth is sealed and it has compartments along each side that are also are water tight. What has occured to me is that this design essentially makes it a double hulled boat. If i ever puncture the hull, all it would do is fill the compartment since the compartments are all above the water line. Even my through hull is in a water tight box. A couple months ago, i got myself a 41ft Morgan Out Island that I'm certain to eventually redesign. When I do that, i will certainly adopt the same idea, at least to the front half of the boat. I bring this up because it may be an idea you'd maybe not considered and this would be the time to incorporate it.
I love the CAD .. "Cardboard Asisted Design" Dead laugh... excellent... Can't wait to see the cardboard or VR become true reality. Good luck and courage..
its about time you guys started embracing vr tech.. there's sooo much that you can do with VR. i'm able to 3d model my 3d prints in VR, and then print them, and have them exactly the same as they was in VR. likely, because VR can use STM files, you can even do prints for big 3d cut tables for wood of whatever you want. literally, you can build everything in VR then print and assemble. its amazing tech.
First the CAD design was amazing and then you blew us away with…”let’s look at that in VR”. Good design too.
Nice editing
Nice!!! I've worked a bit with 3D architectural software, with walkthroughs and all, but what you've done is totally next level. I love the way you've incorporated the VR simulation to your model... So cool!!! I don't know how long (or how much effort) was put into converting your model into VR, but my gosh, well worth it! Great work, and a great episode.
Cheers Dan and Kika, well done.
I absolutely LOVE the design! You are very good at thinking things through. Just remember to put more that one foot rest under the work bench. One back and two forward is the goal really - Ive worked very. many. tidious. years at a PC/other, and the one thing you always miss is when the foot rest isn't there. Worked nights at our national numbers information and BOY did we use the foot rests! And that will make the knees hurt less, your back become less strained and you feel less "unmoved" when you get up.
I am posetiveily sure you will find a cool way to give you footrests. And note - I didns say you need backrest. You dont. Its for the knees and neck, really. Have fun! /Catta from Sweden
Thank you! That's greate to look into new Uma being in old Uma!
Hi guys! Cracking on full steam there. The galley layout... I would put the sink on the stern side, where it can have a watertight splashback, and plumbing is easy and short, or against the hull because its a weird shaped space, and keep the saloon side as your main prep area. Not only is it more social, in that you can face anyone in the saloon while you prep a meal, but ALSO... its better for filming content, and not filming your back, looking over your shoulder. That means the fridge will be under the main prep area, which also makes sense. 24:00 illustrates my point perfectly, I think.
Way to go.......one thing (for sure) I would considered looking in to it would be a differend low profile galley faucet? loosing a balance when entering down below one may fall over the sink and the faucet will cause some "pain"? It sort of look like out of place as it is, everything else is so smooth etc. but your focus will be on the faucet? Built my Endurance 35 intrerior totally out of cardboard before the deck, was happy with it for the next 15 + years!
If you switch the sink and fridge a splash won't be ending up in the settee and it looks like if you do that a chest type fridge would be bigger . Just a thought
Are you moving the chaine-plates on the outside of the hull?
Placing the bed on the lowest center of gravity = so much more comfort and relaxed immersion way below the waterline, also great soundproof.
Flip retractable sink made for boat already exist as you know...
Basically, it seems that you are doing a replica of what are millions of boats out there, yet I have seen home-boats with ingenious one of a kind sailboat interior and exterior design.
Stepping out of the box...
Well done! There can't be many cruisers who have your skillset, abilities, and willingness to take on a boat refit themselves.
Very cool to see your ideas. I'm sure it'll be even more beautiful than imma was before. Question: are you planning on keeping the Norwegian Wood stove? As a northerner myself, that was always one of the coolest additions you made to Uma.
Time to blueprint everything now that you're in bare bones mode. Great tour. Looks very cool.
Ok, well that was brilliant. The 3d walkthrough with cardboard templating mocked up a wildly custom interior and kitchen at warp speed. Wow, bloody well done. I thought this refit was folly but now I see what you wanted to showcase here.
Love the design! The only thing that I see, and a few other commenters see, is the sink location seems difficult. I think the sink could fit nice in the corner, left of the stove. Having a counter space near the center of the boat is essential. Even in a large house, people ALWAYS congregate around the kitchen counter/island/peninsula.
Speaking of cool design. I like your D+K logo in the lower right corner. Cool designs abound!
And wouldn't ya know it! After five years living at sea we just posted our first ever boat tour to our Patrons then a moment later the notification came up for yours. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing for us but our fingers are crossed. Better go and watch yours now!
when do the rest of us freeloaders get the youtube tour ???? lol
@Anne6621 I might be told off if I post a link to it here but was live to the public a couple days after I posted this comment. Thank you!
When filming a VR tour ...... for the sake of other veiwers move your FPS vision just a little slower - pretend you are underwater or in space, it will make it a much nicer experience to watch.
• It seemes like a no brainer ...... swap the sink around to be on the bulkhead rather than against the couch/settee
• Cabinet coners should have large bevels or large diameter bullnose (verticle and horizontal)
• Since you are on a heeling monohull and horizontal surfaces like your editing station have to be cleared when making way anyway ..... it might be a consideration to make the editing station bench lip foldable (fold down to form shelf/desktop) quick secure stowage of stuff and provide a little more corridor room for traversing
Your channel is the best guys. I love how capable in any situation you both are and your repairs and methods are so similar to how I go about these undertakings - bite off more than you anticipate every time (OCD for me!) then plan the hell out of the repair, then as my wife says make it breathe fire. Thanks for the amazing chance to follow along..
Thanks for the tour. We like the straight thru walkway to get forward. Same as our Niagara Encore. Great idea to have the hanging locker near the companionway. (We don’t) You didn’t mentioned tankage (water and fuel), just storage. Looking forward to more details on this as you work it all out.
I would have the sink (R/H drainer) where you are placing the fridge. Allowing for a cub/storage under the drainer and the fridge opposite where you said the sink allowing for a nice work surface with may be some kind of see through shelving for a spice rack (pined by rods) etc. Preparing food you can face into your boat and chat away when in company. Just my kind of set up.
suggestion: great job. how difficult would it be to either put a low greade heater or a heated blower in the wet locker to dry things out, warm then up before putting them on and to keep them from mold and mildew? You two do great work.
Love it! You might want to move the Vbirth door to the edge of the living area. That way the Vbirth has private access to the head. Or add a pocket door on each end of the head hallway.
So cool!
Looking good! Look at the sink for the Jeanneau 44 DS it will solve your issue. Facet is on the right and a sliding/folding top covers the sink. So nothing removable that can go flying around.
You guys are so inventive. This is going to be great! Stay well ❤
This looks like so much fun!!! I really wish I could take a vacation and simply lend a hand!!!
I've been following Acorn to Arabella for years, and that channel has just transitioned from a "construction" journey to a "travel" journey. Your channel is doing the opposite - equally interesting to follow.
This is functional and still a cinematic masterpiece of fluid transfer of views into one story.
I’m sure you guy’s have already thought about keeping the weight distribution fairly equal! It will be amazing when it’s finished 🥂🥳
I want to see you doing the VR whilst underway, in a good sea. I imagine instant seasickness in even the most hardened sailors. I also loved the cardboard mock ups but my mind went to Leo on the 'Tally Ho' showing us the finest craftsmanship with this teak cardboard from Burma. I have always watched you for your outstanding sailing videos, they have revived many memories. Now I am watching you for design tips! Keep it up, Love you both.
( in my experience,😊) a full sink and a half sink are enough. And the stove as low and close to the centreline ideally as you can get it-tricky one to do - but then when you’re hard on the wind it is not ‘ above’ the chef and subject to inertia imho dangerous.. you can never have enough counter top space.. cardboard full size mock up beats the other cad hands down sometimes for pure ergonomics .. the VR is awesome. You guys are doing great and with so much experience going into your new interior, fabulous to watch it transform .. in my last boat -R 36 - the interior was nigh on perfect but interestingly the galley/ chart table office were offset over the build years a teensy bit in favour of the galley..no doubt you will tweak any additional bulkheads or enclosures too. Looking forward to seeing your ideas come to fruition. Great job.
The VR tour was cool guys!
There's always a risk on a sailing channel to stop sailing and do a complete refit like you're doing. A lot of viewers are most interested in sailing after all. But you guys are keeping it interesting and I think that's solid. I'm looking forward to getting you back on the water, but keep the cool stuff coming guys. Cheers!
Have you ever connected with Sailing GBU? Very similar layout. I realize you have specifics and different modes. You are all doing great things. Thank you for taking us on the journey!
Super … wish I could fast forward and see the end result 😂
You’re gonna LOVE my ideas,
1- I wouldn’t take the hanging locker near the pilot birth all the way to the top, it makes your living space seem much smaller especially in winter when you are down their a lot. Keep it at say maximum 120 cm high (enough to hang your wet gear inside.
2- You can have a vertical board that slides up and hooks in place to create future privacy when needed.
3- I would split the “Utube editing station” in two and turn them 90 degrees so that you are facing back to back and still have a large central bench that you both use to sit on back to back and can complement the Nook too (Giant screen can remain in Kika’s station and flip out when you watch TV / and Dan’s station can be mainly a Nav Station
4- maybe the storage under the sink pull out like racks into the corridor space and not into the galley as it is a bit tight
5- I think a back splash is needed at the back of the sink to avoid water coming all over your nook cushions (maybe also add a vertical board that pulls up and hooks into space, could be fun if preparing a surprise too)
I love the ideas of the big ceiling hatches they let in so much light and increase the feeling of space
What is happening on the opposite side of the pilot birth ? Huge storage from above deck ?
All the best, I am loving it
George Papadopoulo
This is a fun part or these two design pros...and a big treat for us fans and wannabes.
It's so exciting, I love it already. I'm still mourning the hefty susan but I see why she had to go. The You Tube workspace looks like a dream.
I always wonder why hammocks are not used on passage, especially in heavy weather? They have been used on sailing vessels and navy ships for centuries. When I see parents struggling with youngsters and trying to keep them safe from falling out of bed, or for nap time, a hammock just makes sense. So comfortable too. My favourite place to nap!
I've wondered about that too. Good question.
Another fine example of CAD (cardboard aided design) at work creating liveable working space.
The entire time you have been saying "U shaped galley" i thought for sure it would have been rotated 90 degrees against the stern and just be huge where the opening would be everything and the boat would be more open, similar layout as before but with more stuff on the right.
But with the cardboard this makes sense
Amazing design! Hope you guys are thinking about a splashscreen behind the faucet in the kitchen, will probably save your lovely couch from mold in the future! Hope you guys are thinking about designing boats for production, because you have some amazing ideas that will revolutionize the small boat segment!
Glad you mentioned it, I was thinking that. Maybe this could be the 'board' cover over the sink - after all, you wont be running the tap with the cover on?
In that same area you might consider a vertical pole/handhold at the corner of the sink ie the next steadying feature after stepping forwards from the companionway. This could also serve as an attachment point for the foldable sink cover/splashback
Excellent edit job on this video. Looks like a great plan. I hope an a year there can me a massive meet up of all the sailing youtube channels somewhere. Bobby is getting a new boat and several others. Keep up the work and dont get a couch.
Fabulous design. Perhaps the hanging wet locker should move back to the hull and waist high. It will open up the most cogested area. The bulkhead behind can then begina good foot back opening up visibility , walk soace and air flow. Top of the locker can be the " catchall counter" which every living space needs. Good luck and stay safe
I like that you don't have to use part of the kitchen counter as your stairs. A lot of work ahead of you guys.
Hey its so exciting to be able to design a galley from scratch ! Here are some thougths based on my experience on my own boat. I have a Beneteau 423 with two cabins, with the galley to starbord. It is great to cook in a seaway when the boat heels and rolls. But most of the time we're at anchor. Anyway, when a person is standing in the galley, access to the trash bin and the fridge is completely blocked. So if my partner is cooking, I can't throw anything in the trash bin and I can't get a cold beer by myself. Very annoying. My fifty cents.
Such a pleasure to step into your technology and see what you are thinking for Uma. Thanks for bring us with you. Loving this journey!!
The new design is exciting as it is a work in progress! Is weight distribution across the boat something to take into consideration? Like weight and balance on a airplane.
Very cool use of VR. Now the real fun begins - actually turning your design into reality.
Interesting how the space seems to morph, when empty it seems so small and prior to renovations appeared much bigger. Great idea with the cardboard.
Love the virtual tour! How about a 360 camera above with a feed somewhere convenient below. Also, a nav station feed to the pilot berth so whomever is there can look at it instead of getting up to ask for a sitrep.
amazing use of the VR setup! super helpful to visualize the plans
I love the new galley, however the tap seems awkward. Is there a reason that you aren't leaving the sink at the back of the kitchen and putting the fridge where the sink was gonna go? I love the covered over sink for party space and food layout, it makes a lot of sense, so why not leave it as a counter top?
Love the new layout! Just a heads-up that I forgot to consider once was the splash from the sink, I recommend having a rim/raised panel at the back of the sink to prevent splashing your nook.
I agree. I reckon putting the sink on the stern side will provide that and open the "flow" of the space a bit more.
Cool video! I know you are excited about the design, knowing the hull of the boat is sound!
Glad you understand what your looking at!