I had the old Ricky Carmichael rc bike. I took off the lean bars and that would pop right up with 5 min of practice. That thing now is 6s 70+ mph brushless. I'm so glad Losi put this bike out When it falls, keep giving it throttle and quickly go back and forth with the steering. You'll get it to spin and lift
I think a more streamlined boot cover/saver thing, like an extended bash plate might stop the feet grabbing. Riding on softer watered tracks with ruts in them would be so cool without the lean bars.
i really like it. 600 is too steep. gotta get this think closer to 400. maybe 450. 600 dollars gets you so much in the RC world in regards to cars/trucks. i just dont see this thing taking off at that price point.
Not too bad with out the bars on the side. They honestly don’t bother me though. More than not having them installed, I’d rather see some shorter ones made just so the foot doesn’t catch.
Someone will eventually resin-print some clear lean bars. Or come up with another way to add a skid that is not as noticeable. You can bet money on it. We have some excellent 3D printer engineer guys out there that can work magic. I already have one Idea that I want to try to our shop to sample Losi Promoto MX.
Let's all be honest about this........ It looks so much better without the training wheels!! I'm not sure how people would race these on a track side by side with training wheels and not constantly get tangled up. On the other hand, trying to race without them would be a nightmare for the marshals that have to constantly run around resetting them. 😅
@@joski9030 ya I’m sure it is a bit expensive for some. Sorry you guys have the even higher price! But a lot of the people that ride will pony up the money. Price is relative to one’s income. Some will think it’s expensive some will think it’s cheap.
I agree this release is a big deal in the RC hobby. LOSI did their R and D on this product, and it shows. I'm going to wait for the second batch and buy one for sure !! Great video, you seem to have the go to content on this, and you are doing a great job of real world RC testing !!
I am superimpressed that it is actually driveable (rideable?!)! I want one, but i figured I'd wait till prices come down a bit or a good sale.... and maybe they will have made a V2 with eventual bugs sorted out... I allready have too many RC, so for once I will try and restrain myself! :D
I agree on waiting on the next batch because I think the next batch go be faster and 3s ready I believe this one is 2s I haven’t seen nobody run 3s with on this
Nice vid Greg. I noticed that when you removed the broken piece, it still looked ok. There's a product that I use that's better than crazy glue, you may have heard of it it's called "Q-bond" it comes with a very powerful glue, black powder for plastics, and grey powder for metal repairs. I think it's great to repair RC plastic parts in case of an emergency.
Thank's for Sharing the Repair Greg 🏁 Question about the amount of room for the plate and a possible reinforcement 1/8 inch thick aluminum plate attached to it? Nice Run without the stability bar's but I'll be using them allot because of Sharing this Model with young Family members and My old self LOL 😆😂😆 ✌🤠👍 Having Fun Laughing Playing and RCing 🙏 Stay Safe and Play Healthy My Friend 💯
probably could have been better plastic. i beat my stuff up pretty hard, and the RPM parts on my Cars/Trucks hold up well. i wonder if RPM will consider making parts for this
Also, for me, regardless of skill I'd keep the training rods on. I am not spending $600 to take them off and damage the little man or body of the machine. Too much money to scratch up. I'm not trying to impress anyone with the change in aesthetics. I drive alone.
Could be cool with extendable support wheels, they could incorporate it into the heel of rider, but that would be quite a bit of kit, dont even want to know waht the bike would cost then. But damn that thing is suprisingly stable without the helpwheels. :D
Maybe there could be an aftermarket minimized part, similar to the Kyosho NSR bike’s wire, that might be a good balance of functionality and aesthetics?
I've already seen complaints from some that it doesn't turn like a car. But of course it doesn't. I think part of the fun will be learning a new skill.
One tip I use on my bikes... get some stiff nylon rod say 3mm (like brushcutter line) and use that as a lean bar. Bend it rearward so it doesn't catch.. Doesn't look too out of place and does a great job of keeping the back wheel on the ground if you tip over hence throttling out and away. Plenty of RC race bike action on YT to see what I mean.
It is. I tore it down in my first video too and reassembled it without the manual and didn’t wind up with any “spare” screws. lol Keeping the wires neatly sorted after a teardown is the one area that might take time. I haven’t torn down the forks either. But everything else seems good.
I like the tire combo's already available....however I hope our friends at proline give us a rear paddle option. Us sand riders could really use them 😅
Is the charger crap like I've read on reviews? It sucks that apparently I can't use my traxxas ID charger for these batteries. Only reason i haven't ordered one... hate to blow money on a charger for just one rc. Especially a slow one and don't really want to buy an expensive one.....
If it was raced on a track with multiple bikes on an actual Motocross style track having the bars off is the way to go. It appears as though with the throttle pinned regardless of orientation other than oaying on its side already it can get upright fairly easily and keeo going. So on a race setting the throttle will be oinned most of the time which would allow for aggressive handling and actaully should be the optimal method for driving it in lue of the need for forward momentum to keep upright. Cant wait for some.organized ravesnto take place with these things
i just dont understand a bit of all this Crazy nonsense over the Losi MX bike? does literally not a single RC enthusiast realize that this exact same MX bike in RC platform was launched to our RC community back in the early 2000's? Ya, this machine is old.
I don’t understand why losi made such a beautiful bike and then ruined the look with those giant stabilisers. I’ve had the old venom VMX for years which is also a beautiful bike but it just has 2 wire loops which you can barely see and work great.
Thanks for the video! Seems easy enough to replace and honestly looks like a good "fusible link" to prevent damage to more expensive or harder to replace pieces.
Just an idea for gluing the Holeshot to the 2-piece wheel. Instead of using the usual thin CA glue, use a thicker CA that takes longer to dry. Put the tire in the wheel, but NOT in the 'grooves', and screw the wheel together. Next, using a Q-tip (or similar), lay down the CA into the groove on one side of the wheel, coating the bottom, and both sides, and then 'pull' that side of the tire into the groove. Once that side is done, repeat the process for the other side. Once both sides have dried, do a light coating, using the usual thin CA, around the edges of both sides, essentially "sealing" the tire & wheel together. Just an idea worth trying. 🤙🏼
Good thoughts. I’ve been thinking of all the different tire gluing scenarios I’ve encountered. Lots to think about before I fire up the camera to show it. Might have to make another call to PL to see what their procedure is too.
Exactly. The more I ran it, the quicker I got at reacting to the bike’s movements such as punching the throttle when a foot caught the ground, to get the bike to stand back up.
This thing would be so fun at a track with those bars off…. Might feel better when it doesn’t have all those small rocks making it slide out in the corners 🤜🏼🤛🏼 I bet it’d be fun on pavement with those bars off or up highv
Something I wondered as soon as I saw the bike I figured it'll work great till you crash It's like taking your training wheels off I have a feeling I'm gonna be doing that then if you keep that thing on two wheels it's a real testament of skill
Im not sold on this. A drag bike might translate to RC but a dirt bike? The lack of turn control, not being able to slide the back end around. It handles like a toy.
What a great combo vid... repair job (much easier than expected), no lean bar demo.and tire/wheel options. Thanks Greg, always enjoy the content! As you said, LOSI really did a great job. I'm curious what they do to improve on what seems like perfection in the future.
@@raymondo162 It may come down in time, to be fair, it's pretty revolutionary. I see a lot of RC's that seem way outta their price range, but that comes with the hobby. Right now this bike has no real competition if any, so they can reap the rewards.
@@raymondo162that would be nice, but, I haven’t seen a decrease for popular Traxxas rc cars. This is going to be in demand for awhile. I think this is the cheapest it’s going to be for a few years.
A company that puts in the work to develop what looks to be a “game changer”. Should be rewarded financially. I hope they sell 10 times the quantity they forecasted and develop more versions. GP? WSBK? If they are what they are appearing to be I do t think we will see the prices come down anytime soon.
someone will make a holder for gates for these things..... something that can hold the bikes upright and then gates that can drop to start a race.... omg
This new machine is unbelievably cool...I really hope they come out with something sport related like Kyosho.
I had the old Ricky Carmichael rc bike. I took off the lean bars and that would pop right up with 5 min of practice. That thing now is 6s 70+ mph brushless.
I'm so glad Losi put this bike out
When it falls, keep giving it throttle and quickly go back and forth with the steering. You'll get it to spin and lift
This is exactly what I wanted to see someone test on this thing. Bumps without the bars. Looks awesome, thanks !
I think a more streamlined boot cover/saver thing, like an extended bash plate might stop the feet grabbing. Riding on softer watered tracks with ruts in them would be so cool without the lean bars.
i really like it. 600 is too steep. gotta get this think closer to 400. maybe 450. 600 dollars gets you so much in the RC world in regards to cars/trucks. i just dont see this thing taking off at that price point.
Thanks for all the videos on this release, they have been very informative.
Happy to help!
If and When they come out with the Street Bike versions, That's when the sales will skyrocket. Guaranteed.
I hope that Losi makes a street sport bike!
Not too bad with out the bars on the side. They honestly don’t bother me though. More than not having them installed, I’d rather see some shorter ones made just so the foot doesn’t catch.
4:26 that was awesome highlights
Someone will eventually resin-print some clear lean bars. Or come up with another way to add a skid that is not as noticeable. You can bet money on it. We have some excellent 3D printer engineer guys out there that can work magic. I already have one Idea that I want to try to our shop to sample Losi Promoto MX.
how about testing and tweaking front brakes for more stopping power?
i make mine all alloy 6ft jumps like a champ
Awesome video Greg cant wait to see those new tires in action!!
I’m dying to try them but it’s going to rain for the next 3 days. 😭
@@rcdriver yeah here in upstate ny as well
cannot wait for all the aluminum upgrades.
Same!
Yea, I fell the bars are like training wheels. Once you get the hang of it, most won't run them
What about low foot peg mod/ support bar
Pre- ordered my RTR in green, why? Because the others were on back order on Horizon Hobby.
Can use a HV-lipo battery?
Man, I hope they make a motogp bike.
Let's all be honest about this........ It looks so much better without the training wheels!! I'm not sure how people would race these on a track side by side with training wheels and not constantly get tangled up. On the other hand, trying to race without them would be a nightmare for the marshals that have to constantly run around resetting them. 😅
It would be like a new exercise routine. Move over Peloton lol.
Is it just me or does anyone else wish it was a lot bigger 🤔
Will you do a give away for one
Might be fun to build a supermoto.Then you wouldn't need a specific track. Race in parking lots
If pastrana runs a race at his pit bike track these things will be perpetually out of stock.
😊
Or if they start advertising during motocross and the upcoming supercross.
Not for the price ! Outrageous £700 in England rather buy a pit bike and actually ride !
@@joski9030 maybe a ratted out crf50... do you not already have pit bikes to ride?
@@joski9030 ya I’m sure it is a bit expensive for some. Sorry you guys have the even higher price! But a lot of the people that ride will pony up the money. Price is relative to one’s income. Some will think it’s expensive some will think it’s cheap.
I agree this release is a big deal in the RC hobby. LOSI did their R and D on this product, and it shows. I'm going to wait for the second batch and buy one for sure !! Great video, you seem to have the go to content on this, and you are doing a great job of real world RC testing !!
I am superimpressed that it is actually driveable (rideable?!)!
I want one, but i figured I'd wait till prices come down a bit or a good sale.... and maybe they will have made a V2 with eventual bugs sorted out...
I allready have too many RC, so for once I will try and restrain myself! :D
I agree on waiting on the next batch because I think the next batch go be faster and 3s ready I believe this one is 2s I haven’t seen nobody run 3s with on this
@@lamontpaynes389 It's not out of the box ready for 3S, it would burn it out, according to a review I watched.
@@lamontpaynes389Earl Moorehead put the Vendetta 3s ESC in one. Has a video of how to do it.
Nice vid Greg. I noticed that when you removed the broken piece, it still looked ok. There's a product that I use that's better than crazy glue, you may have heard of it it's called "Q-bond" it comes with a very powerful glue, black powder for plastics, and grey powder for metal repairs. I think it's great to repair RC plastic parts in case of an emergency.
You can achieve the same results sprinkling baking soda on the superglue before it dries. It’s hard to fathom how strong it becomes
I honestly don’t think the lean bars look that bad anyway, they blend in much better than the hoops the other brands ran👌 great vid mate
Thank's for Sharing the Repair Greg 🏁 Question about the amount of room for the plate and a possible reinforcement 1/8 inch thick aluminum plate attached to it?
Nice Run without the stability bar's but I'll be using them allot because of Sharing this Model with young Family members and My old self LOL 😆😂😆
✌🤠👍 Having Fun Laughing Playing and RCing
🙏 Stay Safe and Play Healthy My Friend 💯
600 quid. good job it's accessible. broke suspension; broke brake rotor, bent wheels and about an hour's run time. bargain - deffo bargain
probably could have been better plastic. i beat my stuff up pretty hard, and the RPM parts on my Cars/Trucks hold up well. i wonder if RPM will consider making parts for this
There was a smaller version of these a number of years ago..I think it was the Jeremy McGrath ones on yamaha. The kids had them
What about two little servos to stretch out the legs ....or linear rails...just an idea😉
At 6:33 that save into a wheelie was so sick. Thanks for running it without bars for us curious!
the wheelie is way over at 6:33
yes thanks
Also, for me, regardless of skill I'd keep the training rods on. I am not spending $600 to take them off and damage the little man or body of the machine. Too much money to scratch up. I'm not trying to impress anyone with the change in aesthetics. I drive alone.
He made the money right back, with the video.
It’s going to get scratched up regardless
The plastics are 30$ so cheaper than a regular body by far
hate to say it but this might be the wrong hobby for you
@@BR-qg5jdExactly!
Killer shots. Nice to see it without the lean bars, but for practicality I think they are good.
Man! I sure thought u was going to show us in this video how each of those tires responded on the bike.
Now THAT is truly a body clip.
LMAO right? Ias thinking the same thing. Cheers
Great video! I think we have all been craving more content on these. Glad they got you the part fairly quickly. Thanks for the vid.
Could be cool with extendable support wheels, they could incorporate it into the heel of rider, but that would be quite a bit of kit, dont even want to know waht the bike would cost then. But damn that thing is suprisingly stable without the helpwheels. :D
Maybe there could be an aftermarket minimized part, similar to the Kyosho NSR bike’s wire, that might be a good balance of functionality and aesthetics?
I've already seen complaints from some that it doesn't turn like a car. But of course it doesn't. I think part of the fun will be learning a new skill.
That’s exactly right. It’s a 2 wheel bike so it’s not going to turn like a 4 wheel car. It’ll be a learning curve for some.
One tip I use on my bikes... get some stiff nylon rod say 3mm (like brushcutter line) and use that as a lean bar. Bend it rearward so it doesn't catch.. Doesn't look too out of place and does a great job of keeping the back wheel on the ground if you tip over hence throttling out and away.
Plenty of RC race bike action on YT to see what I mean.
I would think a thin wire with a strong spring rate would work well.
I think they use them on the street rc motorcycles
At speed you really don’t notice those pegs. I’d just keep them on.
Waiting on the crotch rocket street version! Ya know it's coming!
That's going to be amazing
Another great vid and this amazing bike. I can't wait until these start shipping. Those Supermoto's look like a winner.
Thanks again! Yeah, a lot of people seem to be getting excited for those Supermoto tires. Looking forward to trying them myself.
Yes! And it looks like some people are already getting them.
@@mgscheue 🤞Mine comes soon.
I think its great that "mainenance mode" is essentially the rider doing a hart attack.
Nice to see it running without the leanbars. Looks like the bike is fairly wrench friendly too.
It is. I tore it down in my first video too and reassembled it without the manual and didn’t wind up with any “spare” screws. lol Keeping the wires neatly sorted after a teardown is the one area that might take time. I haven’t torn down the forks either. But everything else
seems good.
I like the tire combo's already available....however I hope our friends at proline give us a rear paddle option. Us sand riders could really use them 😅
I’m keeping my fingers crossed for you. 😀 Paddles would be awesome!
I was thinking the same thing!
These are going to be everywhere! Bunch of these bashing around would be sweet!
not soooo many people got 600 dpllars to spunk on 16 mins playtime.............
Is the charger crap like I've read on reviews? It sucks that apparently I can't use my traxxas ID charger for these batteries. Only reason i haven't ordered one... hate to blow money on a charger for just one rc. Especially a slow one and don't really want to buy an expensive one.....
The charger does charge the pack, but yes most people will get tired of it quick and want one of their better chargers.
Real kawasakis don't hold up any better than that. Lol
Love that turn, and wheelie out of it at 6:30! Awesome!
LOL, yeah, I watched that one a few times myself. 😄
Hey bud witch mode do you prefer to run and witch one is the fastest. I cant imagine running a 3s in there cause its decent on 2s already.
Can the size of the front and rear sprockets be changed?
If it was raced on a track with multiple bikes on an actual Motocross style track having the bars off is the way to go. It appears as though with the throttle pinned regardless of orientation other than oaying on its side already it can get upright fairly easily and keeo going. So on a race setting the throttle will be oinned most of the time which would allow for aggressive handling and actaully should be the optimal method for driving it in lue of the need for forward momentum to keep upright. Cant wait for some.organized ravesnto take place with these things
My imagination is going wild with all the different tracks I can make.
There's an old saying which applies to driving without safety bars, "when in doubt, drop the hammer". Lol
if its 1/4 size, and it was doing 42 mph, does that mean that "at scale" it was doing like 168 micro miles p/h jeje?
i just dont understand a bit of all this Crazy nonsense over the Losi MX bike? does literally not a single RC enthusiast realize that this exact same MX bike in RC platform was launched to our RC community back in the early 2000's? Ya, this machine is old.
So there was something similar 20 years ago 🤔 ok
@@robmule4647 yes. There was ...just google anderson m5 or AR racing 😉
Super nice video! I (like most) am very excited for this release!
Does Proline have Ray Charles over there gluing??? Wow!
They'd get sent back if I got wheels glued like that, wtf 😂
No doubt!
he should have installed a system that straightens the bike and then hides, with a servo.
I wonder what kv it is or if it is a 2 pole or a 4 pole. A 2 pole would be smoother not nearly as tourqie
I don’t understand why losi made such a beautiful bike and then ruined the look with those giant stabilisers. I’ve had the old venom VMX for years which is also a beautiful bike but it just has 2 wire loops which you can barely see and work great.
It is a good practice to put all screw in first, and then tighten all the screws.
Thanks for the video! Seems easy enough to replace and honestly looks like a good "fusible link" to prevent damage to more expensive or harder to replace pieces.
Nice, thanks for showing all the details and functions. Can imagine this will bring a lot more people in to the hobby 👌
Just an idea for gluing the Holeshot to the 2-piece wheel. Instead of using the usual thin CA glue, use a thicker CA that takes longer to dry. Put the tire in the wheel, but NOT in the 'grooves', and screw the wheel together. Next, using a Q-tip (or similar), lay down the CA into the groove on one side of the wheel, coating the bottom, and both sides, and then 'pull' that side of the tire into the groove. Once that side is done, repeat the process for the other side. Once both sides have dried, do a light coating, using the usual thin CA, around the edges of both sides, essentially "sealing" the tire & wheel together. Just an idea worth trying. 🤙🏼
Good thoughts. I’ve been thinking of all the different tire gluing scenarios I’ve encountered. Lots to think about before I fire up the camera to show it. Might have to make another call to PL to see what their procedure is too.
@@rcdriver not sure why they don’t just make them premount to be honest 🤷♂️
I can already see pro RC Racing on these little bikes and without the lean bars for added skill
We’re gonna slide his jersey up *laughs* lol 😂 you the man
Nice!
Way more realistic....you gotta be careful riding a race bike, or you crash" and it's not if" your gonna crash" it's when" you crash! Lol!
A 1/8th scale tire glueing jig should help with that bike wheel . Maybe ?
700.00 Canadian,are you out of your mind,getting to be less affordable for people unless you have your own UTUBE channel
I cant wait till mine shows up for personal experimenting as well 8-)
I hope they make a street bike version as well. A scale r1 or something
nice. running without the training wheels makes it a skill.
Exactly. The more I ran it, the quicker I got at reacting to the bike’s movements such as punching the throttle when a foot caught the ground, to get the bike to stand back up.
This thing would be so fun at a track with those bars off…. Might feel better when it doesn’t have all those small rocks making it slide out in the corners 🤜🏼🤛🏼 I bet it’d be fun on pavement with those bars off or up highv
Something I wondered as soon as I saw the bike I figured it'll work great till you crash
It's like taking your training wheels off I have a feeling I'm gonna be doing that then if you keep that thing on two wheels it's a real testament of skill
I can't wait until mine arrives, I ordered the green one so I know it'll be a while
Ditched mine yesterday and won’t go back. 👍
It used to catch and flip constantly in the dirt even with the bars tucked.
Looks essentially the same as the dirtbike Tyco came out with like 20 years ago 😂 absolutely zero reason this thing should be as expensive as it is.
Im not sold on this. A drag bike might translate to RC but a dirt bike? The lack of turn control, not being able to slide the back end around. It handles like a toy.
Its cool and amazing and all, but for that price, i wont ever get one. Rather buy a rc plane that is 3x cheaper with better technology
Do you think a 500 GP bike, World Superbike, King of Baggers version ?
I gave you the idea 💡.....let's not forget. ...last vido i said take off the silly training wheels ...your welcome 😊
Great video! What's the model of the Makita screwdriver you're using?
They put the bars on for a reason. They’ve tested it without before selling it to you. I’ll keep mine on.
If you could make the lean bars from clear acrylic to try and make them invisible, wouodnt be so bad to have them installed
Wow great off-road racing, nice bike 💯👍😊
5:20 super awesome it does not just sink in the sand :).
You could put some holes in the piece that got broke and reinforce it then stick it with a good epoxy and it should be good as a spare.😂
What a great combo vid... repair job (much easier than expected), no lean bar demo.and tire/wheel options. Thanks Greg, always enjoy the content! As you said, LOSI really did a great job. I'm curious what they do to improve on what seems like perfection in the future.
Yeah, that repair is an under 5 minute job. Glad you liked the combo vid!
reducing the price would be a start .....................
@@raymondo162 It may come down in time, to be fair, it's pretty revolutionary. I see a lot of RC's that seem way outta their price range, but that comes with the hobby. Right now this bike has no real competition if any, so they can reap the rewards.
@@raymondo162that would be nice, but, I haven’t seen a decrease for popular Traxxas rc cars. This is going to be in demand for awhile. I think this is the cheapest it’s going to be for a few years.
A company that puts in the work to develop what looks to be a “game changer”. Should be rewarded financially. I hope they sell 10 times the quantity they forecasted and develop more versions. GP? WSBK? If they are what they are appearing to be I do t think we will see the prices come down anytime soon.
Def use the slow set CA glue and not thin CA glue or getting those tires to sit nice will be very tough!
Crazy the techmology today
it'll work fine if youre an accomplished rc bike racer. most people wont be able to drive it like that without a lot of road rash.
someone will make a holder for gates for these things..... something that can hold the bikes upright and then gates that can drop to start a race.... omg
Looks like this plate is totally repairable by reinforced plastic welding. Need some slow-mo for the real cool.😊
Man, this thing looks so epic! That fix looked really easy, how much was the part?
Being that it is plastic and a weak point, someone may want to CNC a piece of aluminum for this piece.