Fork Seal Install WITHOUT a Seal Driver [Dirt Bike]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- I'm going to show you how to install fork seals WITHOUT a seal driver when doing a rebuild.
It is always nice to have all the proper tools at your disposal, but there are usually ways around purchasing these tools that can run at a premium price tag. This way you can spend that money on more sweet sweet 2t oil or gas or parts or gear or even beer!
Of course you will still need the proper tools to disassemble your forks, like the Tusk fork cap wrench you will see in this video, and a seal bullet. Although a plastic bag can always be used in place of a bullet if need be!
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Welcome back to Ride.Enduro, in this video I'm going to show you how to seat your fork seals without a seal driver.
First go ahead and assemble all the components. I use a seal bullet to prevent the
seals from getting all torn to hell, slide them over the upper portion of your lower stanchion. Put the dust seal on first and then make sure you orientate your oil seal so that the cavity is facing upwards into your fork. Slip the ring on and then slip your lower and upper bushings on as well. Most all of your standard dirt bike forks are going to be pretty similar, these forks are off my 2014 yz250, they are KYB SSS forks, I love these things as they work really well.
Now that everything's assembled you should make sure it is really clean before you go ahead and do this last step. Now you can insert your lower stanchion into your upper fork tube and then you're gonna use the lower stanchion, kind of like a slide hammer, to seat the oil seal down enough to get the circlip into the recessed groove that is in the upper fork tube.
All I'm gonna use for this step is a roll of electrical tape! I've been doing this for all my fork seal changes now and it's working really well. The first thing you want to do is make sure that the stanchion is super clean as you don't want any oil left on them so that the tape can actually stick. Now line up your oil seal so that it's nice and square to the tube, and use that to guide your first row of tape around the stanchion, so it's nice and square and not zigzagging all over all over the place. This is so when use it to hit the seal it will be seating all the way around against that seal. Now you're gonna wrap the tape around the stanchion and build it up to about an eighth inch thick, this is so it seats totally against the front edge of the seal.
Once there is a nice thick layer of tape on the stanchion and it mates up with the seal nicely, set the seal right up against the tape and hammer it down. You do not have to hit it very hard, use nice and light strokes until it is punched completely into the upper fork tube.
Once that is done you should be able to see the groove in which the circle seats into. Then go ahead and install the clip into the grove starting at one of the open ends, I push in the end of the clip and then work my way around with a small flat-head screwdriver and push it down into the groove. Be careful not to knick the seal here because you can destroy your seal.
Now go ahead and peel the tape off. Once you have all that tape off go ahead and give the stanchion a wipe down to get all the tape residue off, and then slide the dust seal into place. Usually you can seat this seal with your fingers! - กีฬา
Nothing like finding this in the middle of the night. Not only did you save me $90 on a seal driver but I was able to get the job done and ready for tomorrows ride. I tried the PVC pipe trick, but this works WAY better. You are a life saver!!!
Colin Simpson hey, it’s good to hear this little trick is helping get people back in the seat faster! Have fun!
4:35 how I felt watching this genius save me £30
Jordan Anderson haha 🤣
LMFAO
UNREAL!! Found this at 4am wondering how I'm going to seat my seals :)
Thanks for sharing legend 🍻
Brotha, you saved my sanity
The hell I caught yesterday!!! Destroyed 2 slide bushings and marked up my lower............gonna give this a try.........
I gave this a try. It worked so smoothly I was surprised! !!
Good to hear! Cheers
That's awesome mate. One of the best fork hacks I've seen.
Videos like this should be randomly recommended by TH-cam
9PM and realizing I had screwed up, then I found this and it worked perfectly. Thank you so much!
Cheers
I ordered a driver and it’s the wrong size. This video saved me thanks brother
Send it back! Haha 👍
This is so helpful. And saves money
LITERALLY LOVE THIS. YOU ARE STRAIGHT UP A GOD. I WILL SHARE THIS WITH ANYONE. BOUGHT A BIG ROLL OF ELECTRICAL TAPE AT THE DOLLAR STORE.... 1 DOLLAR. Did both Forks and still have a ton left over. You saved a lot of technicians money with this video.
Joel Gibbons cheers!
This is a great trick, thanks for posting!
Exceptional!Thank you.
Wow, that's amazingly easy!
Thanks Dude! You save my day and my money!!!!
Hey man, me and my friend were working on changing the oil seals on his bandit 650. Your fork hack saved us, big thanks from Sweden
Your tape-trick-slide-hammer just saved me spending out money on an overpriced tool. Thank you!
Bill Hubbard now you can spend that money on more important stuff! Like gas and beer! Haha
Worked perfectly after struggling for hours trying to find something to do the job 😂 thanks a lot
Michael YZF no problem! Glad to hear of some success!
Wtf ever 😂😂😂 you know how long I’ve been working on this seal and I finally found your video? Thank you ever so much made it go by fast and I save money on buying a seal driver
HaHa TH-cam has all the answers!
Great video you save me a load of hassle.thanks👍
Briane Murphy no problem. Cheers
How can 4 people dislike this? Such an awesome money saving hack.
🤷 it’s the internet… haha can’t please everyone! Cheers
This trick is very easy for this job
Thanks bro
Broooo thank you for existing!!!!
Fadli Hisyam haha blew your mind hey?!
Was trying to use the old fork seal to drive the new one in. Didn't work. THIS WORKED FLAWLESSLY! 2 impacts and that's it. What a genius. Thanks man!
Luka Kvavilashvili woot! Success!
Hey man thanks so much for posting this vid, worked perfectly on my old 92 GSXR forks, you absolute legend!
Cheers thanks!
Great way to go👍. This is one of those gems you occasionally come across. Last one I found was on changing my tundra starter. Book calls for removing coolant lines and the exhaust manifold for access. Why not just loosen the motor mount on that, jack up the engine a little and make room that way. Thanks again
Thanks bro! This was just what I needed 💪😁👍
Did it work for ya?!
@@RideEnduro Like a charm 😁
Thanks for this video. Did my first fork seal replacement at the weekend. I used this method for driving in the bushings AND oil seals. Worked a treat. Hardest bit is trying to keep the tape aligned, but it still works even if you're not perfect.
Roger MYERS yeah getting the first wrap nice and straight is key! Good to hear
Dude THANK YOU SO MUCH!! That is AMAZING! You just saved me money and I can do the job NOW, instead of having to order a special tool for it. Awesome video man!!
Daniel Boeve no problem 👍🏻 share with your friends
awesome. will use this technique soon. Thank you bro
No problem, cheers!
Just used your seal driver tip after lucking out on anything else and want to thank you sir for saving me $ and planting the seals 100%great tip !👍
Good to hear!
Brilliant, have to change my fork seals tomorrow and was shopping for fork seal tool. Saved me money for something I won’t do very often.
No prob!
Thanks for this tip, just used it on my sons bike and it worked perfectly.
Nice 👍
Helps a lot mate 👍
Well you are amazing. I have been messing with this seal for two hours since I didn't have the proper tool. This just works!
It's too easy!
My Hero, thanks a lot!
I was skeptical, but this method worked absolutely beautifully. Saved me $$ on a seal driver or some hack PVC/hose clamp solution. Thanks!!
Dan MC Donough right on 👍🏻
Just used this method for my 2007 FZ6, and it worked perfectly. Thanks friend, you ROCK!
Cheers
@@RideEnduro Cheers to YOU! 😀
"You're doing God's work Skater McGee."
-quote from Robot Chicken-
I always used PVC pipe cut in half then clamped together with a hose clamp but I like this method wayyy better. Now if I could just find a hack to get the cap off!
Thanks!
If your talking about the cap at the top of the fork tube, just use an impact drill, or if you dont have access to one, loosen the cap with a wrench with the forks still mounted on the bike to hold it in place.
Worked excellent, 1996 cr250r.
Glad to hear! This will work with pretty much any fork that needs the seal driven into place. Motorcycle to Mountain Bike!
Genius!! Holy shit bro! Great video! Thank you for sharing! Really didn't want to buy a driver that I'll use once or twice.
Cheers
I like the improvisation but you gotta be careful.the driver tool hits the seal at an outer circumference not to cause damage. I.didn't try that trick but I would add more tape if I ever did to avoid hitting the seal inner part which can easily mess the whole thing. Thanks for the video.
Good advise 👍
That's a really really great tip my friend with the tape! I would use the old seal as a protector for the new seal while you're slamming it down.
This is f&^%king brilliant! I can tell you are an awesome tradesman. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
The Unnamed 🤟🏻
Great video
Thanks 👍🏻 Next time I do a rebuild I’ll do a start to finish how to most likely. If not only for my own reference when doing this maintenance! I always find myself refreshing on how it goes mid service.
Top tip, I used double sided tape but removed the tape on one side. Worked very well without having to order a seal driver.
Nice, that would be even faster as the tape would be thicker 👍
Hey thats a good trick. I bet it'll work on my 888rc and 66rc MARZOCCHI mtb forks too. Ill be sharing this one
Thanks Ernie Desjardins, yeah it should work with any fork that needs the seals seated!
Wow, why didn't I think of that....thanks!
Hungry Rabbit the only credit I can take is that of sharing it. A buddy of mine showed me this method.
Brilliant.
Wish I saw this video a few weeks ago...but I will try it soon enough...
Now you know where to find it the next time you do a fork service!
Dead blows wonderful but the oil seal won't go into that sloped ring between the oil seal and upper bushing.
Shall I remove the spring ring from the seal?
98 ktm 250 sx
Nice trick
Dude wtf what a crazy great idea.
Chris Doms it works great in a pinch when you don’t have a properly sized seal driver 👍🏻
you saved me $$ you are a life saver.. :)
Romel Emperado cheers
Yoooo! Thank you!!
Cheers!
Makes me wonder how many people have found this video last minute while trying to get their bike back together before the big weekend ride?! Or tired of waiting for the moto store to ship your seal driver?! Or just trying to save all your hard earned dollars for fuel and premix?!
thanks for saving me the $ on a seal driver
The proper tools are nice to have but not always a necessity!
Good👌😘
awesome !
Thaaaank you!!!!!!!!
Cheers!
@@RideEnduro it only works with grease tho without it you can try to slam it in as hard as you want.
Just need to fill oil in tomorrow morning and get em back on the bike.
Do you have a website by any chance where I can check how much oil I need to fill in, I can't find anything?
Depends on the fork you are rebuilding. Search fork oil height for your model and year of bike.
SOLID.
nice
Fantastic trick, one question I have is that your driving both the bushing and seal in at the same time, Im guessing this doesnt damage the oil seal?
The bushing falls into place quite nicely on these forks, so essentially I was only seating the oil seal. If your lower bushing needs some force to set in place I would press that in first and then do the oil seal separately. 👍🏻
@@RideEnduro thanks for the advice 👍
hey, i did this on a 1991 CR 250R and the seal shifts up and down when moving the shock up and down after slamming down on it a couple times. is it supposed to stay perfectly still or can it shift around a little before putting the clip in?
mike shock you can use your other hand to hold the seal down as you pull the Fork leg back up. If the seal is seated far enough to insert the clip then you are done!
This should work with the bushing below too correct?
If you are referring to the 2nd rubber seal (dust seal) that is visible once you have everything together then yes. Although i have found that a good push with your fingers can seat those too.
I'm a little confused, aren't you hammering on the sealing surface? Seal drivers are uncut to push on the outside of the dust seal no?
sstewartsideways yes you are pushing on the seal, but it’s plenty thick and takes relatively little force to drive in place. At no point have I ever been concerned about ruining the integrity of the seal.
genius
There's no reason this wouldn't work on traditional/right way up forks, right? This is going to save me a lot of trouble trying to overhaul my forks during the lockdown!
Dustin La Mont yeah, any fork that requires the seal driven into place!
Brilliant, thought I was gonna have to wait a month for a chinese seal driver
MovingTarget perfect!
Why yoo say uss chineese take too long wiz a postingk tings? Oooo eet make'd uss so angly!🤣
@@napper1496 Lol, truthfully its not the chinese but the method of shipment :p
It take so looong time cuz “It’s on a boat Madafakas!”
@@RideEnduro or a prane!
I wish i saw this before i ordered a seal driver ugh hahaha
Amazing Jepoy having the proper tools for the job is never a bad thing!
just saved me 50 euros xD
Amazing, forget the cutting of PVC in half and forming with heat.....
Soudage ProWeld 🤟🏻
Don't do it, all it does is tear up the forkseal.
Never had a fork seal fail on me yet... they aren’t made of porcelain and it doesn’t take much to tap them into place.
This trick doesn't work. AVOID! Trust me, I tried it. Your seal will stick to the tape and not seat. When you pull the fork up the seal will stick to the tape and come right back out possibly damaging your seal.
I mean the video footage kinda disagrees... but to each their own. Sorry it didn’t work out for you. I’d be kinda worried about the seal you are using if it comes out that easily. I have to pry mine out, or slide the lower stanchion into it the reverse direction with some force to pop it out.