Henry has 4 PL golden boots. Nobody has more. Rooney and Shearer played in the league much longer than Henry. Henry the only PL player to have 20+ goals and 20+ assists in one PL season
@Oli Black wasn't comparing trophies though was I? You said he was in the MLS, I simply said that's because he had nothing to left to seriously fight for, which was your initial reason to belittle Henry.
@Oli Black @Oli Black it's not comparing if it's adding context to you initial point mate, I never said it made him better than shearer did I?. I don't see why a Frenchman would care at all about setting the EPL record in 2006. It's a non starter for me as a conversation goes.
Massive Respect To Vardy Man Literally Came Into The League At 27 And Now In 100 Goal Club And Achieved Great Things At Leicester who aren't even considered a top 6 Team Just Incredible When He Retires His legacy will Age Well with His movie coming out soon
Although maybe not top 5 but I'm very surprised nobody mentioned Michael Owen! Granted he fell off towards the end of his career but let's not forget he won the Ballon d'Or whilst in the Premier League and won the two golden boots at 17 and 18. Phenomenal player in his prime before injuries sadly took their tole.
Rooney was an absolute machine put team and the win before himself. The way he played for the badge was incredible. The time he got injured and played on with a limp making cruical tackles and such was immense.
@@harishg1507 That is a very over rated argument... I was at 99% of games over that period... The team was functioning for Rooney just as much as it was for Ronaldo... Park, Fletch, Welbeck were the big sacrificial lambs.
Exactly. There's so many strikers whose legacies are ruined or at least dampened by how they end their careers. Like how star completely forgot about Rooney because he burned out so much younger than most other players. I feel like building an incredible legacy is about being consistently amazing from start to finish and finishing on a high. I mean imagine the hype Aguero would get after he retired if he'd won City their first Champions league in his last ever game for them? Deserved or not I think everyone would put him over Rooney simply because of how poetic it would be. Like I'm a Chelsea fan and accepted that as a goalscorer Drogba's not up there with the very best in the Prem (although I will say is he was about a hell of a lot more than goals). But he's looked as one of the greatest because of how poetic his career was and that game in Munich.
@@emilezola1458 Owen won the league with united and won some trophies with Liverpool Kane hasn't even got a league cup to his name. If people are so harsh on Gerrard for not winning the league despite winning everything else in club football then Kane doesn't even belong in the conversation. Although he will probably get a move to city and he'll get given the league on a silver platter eventually
@@Snapmaw to be considered In top 10 strikers of all time it makes no sense to be on what you’ve won like for me it’s just goals and for me kane is top 5 easy
@@mason6789 Yes but as I said in my original comment Gerrard has literally won every trophy in club football except the premier League in England but you have people saying he doesn't have the right to be mentioned with the likes of lampard and scholes when there's an argument he may have been better. People have and always will judge on trophies and not numbers on the pitch as sad as it is. Kane needs to win something
A suggestion for future vids could be ranking the top 10 greatest peaks from each position that would be a good discussion hopefully guys like so sharky can see
I love the vids, but can you guys do all time for everything not just prem cause it’s more debatable and harder like the next video maybe, (top them best players of all time)
There were so many players i just loved to watch, that weren't necessarily the most lethal strikers. Dicanio, Berkamp, Letessier, Zola, Suarez, that were almost magical at times.
So Rory says he would have put Kane in the list if he moved to City and won them the league with his goals, but he also didn’t put Van Persia in the list even though he moved to United and won them the league with his goals…
I appreciate what Shaun did here.. He made a mistake in judgement and he was completely honest with it.. He could have said that he forgot but it takes much more courage to accept that he made a judgement mistake in the case of Andy Cole.. People are always bashing him for being bias but his knowledge of the game is much wide than other guys in this show..
Just to help Rory out a bit with justifying Rooney over Henry; he is the only player in the prem to have over 200 goals AND over 100 assists. That is honestly supreme as a feat. Not saying he's clear of Henry, but I'd entertain the argument.
@@Lmikejagger He did peak early but that's not really an applicable argument here because the amount of time he spent at his peak is still longer than most players they discussed simply because he was elite at such a young age. The argument is better if you're comparing him to players that have been elite for 15+ years, which are only a handful of players in history. Some of the all time greats had relatively short peaks. Zidane arguably didn't become world class until he was 25/26, Ronaldinho's peak was like 6 years etc. By comparison, Rooney was elite for a good 11 years. Henry was also elite for about 10 years.
@@jammyjam123 I know, I'm mostly playing devil's advocate. Rooney also contributed to 5 title's compared to Henry's 2. I think there is enough to justify Rooney's selection, I just don't think Rory did a good job of making the argument.
When we do these lists in 10 years time, Vardy will be on there. 11 games in a row, dragging Leicester to win the league against 5000/1 odds. Maybe not the most technical, but I think the group seriously underrated his achievements. Maybe not as high as 6, but definitely 10th. Put Vardy in Man United or Chelsea in 2016/17 and he pulls 30 a season every season.
This is what I hate. I'd probably put Vardy in my top 10 at the end of his career but you just can't speculate about what he could've done if he'd played for a different club. Some players play better in teams with better players around them. Some play worse with the added pressure. Some look better in worse teams. Some are worse because they get less service. You can overrate or discredit any player ever by talking about ifs. Like if Aguero didn't play for City of Salah didn't play for Liverpool they'd be shit. Or if Vardy had played for Chelsea he'd have outscored Diego Costa. Its just so ridiculous to speculate. Judge each player by what they did not what they could've, should've or would've done.
@@akeemguy7331 I totally agree. Think he'll retire as an all time great for what he's achieved at Leicester and where he's come from. Just don't like people talking about "ifs" when reflecting on a player's career, because you can't judge something that didn't happen.
This is one of my all-time favourite TH-cam videos. Lads, it was amazing! I joined this channel off the back of Rorys channel, and I'm so glad I did! Love this video and I'm now a subscriber
After hearing the top-10 striker debate numerous times over the years from various sources, I've come to the conclusion that you need to be a Chelsea fan to really appreciate Drogba as an elite striker.
@@1FORIMPERIUM 0.41 goals per game in the premier league isn't "elite". 9 goals in 9 finals, however, is. So in that sense, when Chelsea fans talk about Drogba being the ultimate big game player I have to agree - Hence my point. Maybe the issue stems from the fact that rival fans will point to his goals-per-game ratio when discussing all-time best PL strikers and Chelsea fans will point to his finals record and overall positive effect on the dressing room and club culture. Perhaps Drogba was only a GOOD striker, but an ELITE character who personified the winning culture Chelsea began building the same time he joined them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
if your argument is goals, drogba was not a stay in the box stiker, did not take penalties and every season went to CAN 1 month, so only by that you can add 10 goals to every season he has played, but even besides that, you gotta understant football to know how crucial, genius and important he was
I agree with the overall top 10 but I’ll rearrange it a bit. My top 10: 1. Henry 2. Shearer 3.Aguero 4. Bergkamp 5. Rooney 6. Cole 7. Kane 8. Drogba 9. Suarez 10. RVN
@@jakenener1432 well he had a season where he had 29 goals in just 30 games. One of the few strikers to have a 30 goal season. And the only player to top both goals and assists in a 38 game season.
What a vid but the contradictions are hilarious🤣 Rory - “if you score the goals that take your team to the title, I’ll probably put you on my list” but laughs at Vardy being in someone else’s top 10🤔🤷🏽♂️🤣
Do you mean in one campaign or all comps? If you're just talking about domestic Premiership goals then, Andy Cole & Alan Shearer's 34 goals in a single league season begs to differ. Insanity!
Aguero is the most decorated player on that list. In his last match he beat Rooneys record for most goals for one club. Prem record for most hattricks. It sucks that there aren't enough City fans to defend him
@@reddevil9311 best goal to minute ratio pl Most goals for a single club in pl Most hattricks in pl Most goals against big 6 Most points won by a single striker per game Scored 93:20 Only thing rooney has on aguero is hes english
1 Henry 2 Shearer - did as much and more without the supporting cast that everyone else had 3 Aguero 4 Rooney 5 Cole 6Wright 7 Van nistelrooy 8 Bergkamp - more talent than most but .. not a pure Striker 9 Cantona 10 Drogba
I don’t like this “they haven’t won a league” talk, the league is a team award, There are players WAY worse than Harry Kane that have won leagues, that isn’t a barometer of personal ability
I get your point, but i don't think that's what people mean when trophies are brought into the conversation. I think it's when you struggle to decide between players of a similar standard then the next metric you use is trophies.
That's true, but Harry kane is nowhere near top 10. He's a great player, bordering world class - but the definition of an all time PL great is that they should have a great goalscoring record along with trophies that came because of those goals. Kane's goals have nowhere ever led to that.
@@telmolicious I think it helps In an argument because at the end of the day it's something to show for a good players ability (ik its a team trophy). But take van dijk for example, liverpool would have found it much harder to win CL and PL without him as shown last season. We've seen kane in a few finals and he's never shown his worth
@@chazzxt1273 Gerrard doesn’t have a league title to show for his ability but I think it’s a ridiculous point cause we all know he woulda won had he played at United, Chelsea or Arsenal. To me it’s about performance. Not performing when it matters shows something about u as a player but no one player can control winning the league by himself.
50:35 Aguero.. #2 all time scorer (his brace in his final PL appearance tied, then moved him past Rooney into 2nd place), most goals for a single club, most goals by a foreign born player, most hat tricks in premier league history, tied the record most goals in a single match, and that 93:20 title winner in 11-12 changed the destiny of that club forever as it marked the beginner of City's dynasty. The significance of that goal in both Man City's and the Premier League's history... far more important the Drogba header. not even close.
People underrate him as a footballer too, he wasn’t just a finisher. In his prime he could’ve easily played as a midfielder with his pace and tiki taka style. Remember in a game Liverpool were cruising 3-0 vs city him picking up the ball from deep and driving at our defence scoring a screamer and the game finished 3-2, people don’t seem to credit him as a footballer at all. My 3rd most feared player in pl history after ronaldo and hazard
1. Thierry Henry 2. Sergio Aguero 3. Alan Shearer 4. Harry Kane 5. Wayne Rooney 6. Ruud van Nistelroy 7. Luis Suarez 8. Robin van Persie 9. Robbie Fowler 10. Didier Drogba Honorable Mentions: Eric Cantona, Andy Cole, Michael Owen, Ian Wright and Dennis Bergkamp. How could I forget Ian Wright ffs??
Michael Owen would easily be on this list over Suarez or Vardy (Maybe Kane too). Probably not over Suarez for career but certainly over him for EPL Would be the only one on this list with a golden ball at home.
Are they gonna make a top ten wingers/wing midfielders because they haven't mentioned some of the all time greats like Beckham, Giggs, Ronaldo etc in the midfield
@@Exzactz He won 3 PFA player of the year awards in a row, came 2nd in Ballon d'Or voting to Rivaldo in 99, finished twice as FIFA world player of the year in 99 and 01 and is probably the best free kick specialist the prem has ever seen He's without a doubt a top 10 midfielder of all time if you actually count mids that play on the wings
I was going to write something similar but couldn't be bothered with the explanations but....since you said it...I agree. Bergkamp and Sheringham played as no 9s in their early careers but are probably best known now as supporting forwards. Other names are out and out no 9s (Shearer, Cole, etc). Some others could play either role fairly equally (Suarez, Cantona, etc). It's difficult to have all in the one list and probably easier to ask who have been the best no 9s and who have been the best no 10s. It's also difficult because are we asking which strikers were the best to play in the Premier League or which strikers played their best in the Premier League? These are different things. Also...how to account for longevity? Davor Suker was a class striker, but not in England. Ditto Shevchenko. Ibrahimovic was a class striker, but the vast majority of his career was outside England.
Sorry Shaun but having Suarez and Kane in over cole is insanity. Won the treble amount of goals he scored and won the golden boot and assists before Harry Kane. Gotta be top 5 strikers for me
As a United fan, I'd take Henry, Shearer over Wazza as a better striker. But I will absolutely not take any other answer than Wayne Rooney for the best ever premier league player.
the opposite is the popular opinion, and for a good reason. shearer and aguero better strikers than henry, but he’s the greatest player to grace the prem
Nah Rooney has the 2nd most goal in epl history and 3rd most assists in epl history. They talk about some strikers being lethal and some being unselfish and helping the team. Throughout his career, Rooney has taken both roles and excelled in them. He has more assists than Lampard, Gerrard, Silva, Bergkamp and Beckham. That’s madness. Even though Henry could do both and his football was beautiful to watch, there’s no way you deny Rooney wasn’t in his own universe.
@@paulcasey4282 those guys were always the focal point of the team. Rooney was a supporting striker right from the start of his time at united e.g. van nistelrooy, saha, tevez etc.
@@paulcasey4282 he got 26 and 27. And in the other seaosns he was getting 10-15 goals and 10+ assists. A lot of the other guys got like jack all assists. This was for 10 seasons. A lot of the other guys were either really good for 4 seasons or just good for 10 seasons
@@jeremy-pj1zx I’m not saying he isn’t a top 5 striker in the premier league all time. I’m just saying he’s not a top 2 like Rory had him. Thierry had more assists per game than Rooney as well as more goals per game. Assist/game -Rooney - 0.21, Henry - 0.28 Goals/game-Rooney 0.42, Henry - 0.68
1. Thierry Henry 2. Sergio Aguero 3. Wayne Rooney 4. Alan Shearer 5. Didier Drogba 6. Harry Kane 7. Robin Van Persie 8. Cristiano Ronaldo - Not enough games in PL yet 9. Mohammed Salah 10. Dimitar Berbatov
Is this : Best player in the striker position ? Best goal scorer ? Player with the most goals ? Player with most trophies ? It sure doesn't seem like it's a combination of these, but none fit on their own either !
Doesn’t Vardy hold the record for goals in consecutive games although I think 6th is a bit high I’d have to agree that he could be debated at about 9th or 10th
@@MrRandyKomi yeah he was god damn awful at chelsea but the 3-4 seasons he had at liverpool alone should make him top 10 or at least an honourable mention.
@@oneshak not exactly true. He was injured for large chunks of his time at Liverpool and then the last 12 months at Liverpool he was pretty bad. His head wasn't there.
Andy Cole was also a very intelligent player.. Great link up play.. He did miss chances.. Becks & Giggs were firing them in the box across that period.
Jari Litmanen was the next Bergamp at Ajax. Actually Ajax started to win Erediviese titles and went 2 times in a row to Champions League final and won one of them after Litmanen took Bergamp starting spot after he left Ajax. Sadly Litmanen was made of glass and his career at the top was short.
Another player that was pure class whose career was sadly cut short was Luc Nilis. He is on a par from a technical standpoint to Bergkamp. That Bergkamp goal vs Newcastle, there is a clip of Luc Nilis scoring an identical goal and I believe before Bergkamp scored his.
People really don’t understand how potent Kane is. 29 goals in 30 PL games in 2015/16 30 in 37 PL games in 2016/17 Won the golden boot and playmaker award in 2021. He has 243 goals in his last 8 seasons. He outscored Messi and Ronaldo over a full year. In total he’s made 5 PL team of the years, 3x golden boots, 1x playmaker. He’s going to be the PL and Englands all time greatest scorer. Rory not having him on his list is just … unfathomable. Even if he is a Chelsea fan.
Rory sees the game so well and is such a great analyst and incorporates history tremendously. But he really dropped the ball in this one in having Aguero 8th and trying to defend having Rooney second over Henry🤕. As a Chelsea supporter myself, I how they would kill us but they were extremely elite
Henry was in the prem for 8 seasons..he scored 175 goals and 74 assist..you know how mad that is?? Top 3 in that list only he had the least years in the prem
@@blackerscreenproductions1368 Bergkamp should be on this list because Bergkamp is an elite striker. Being a striker is more than just goals. Bergkamp was one of the most technically gifted players of his generation. He was already 10 years into his career by the time he moved to Arsenal and was instrumental in Arsenal winning the league multiple times. He scored roughly every two and a half matches for Arsenal when he was in the back end of his career. To say he wasn't an elite goal is delusional. And just for the record, I am not an Arsenal fan, I'm a Liverpool fan.
Rory no Henry was better Rooney stats Games: 491 Goals: 208 Assist: 103 Never hit 30 goals and played 9 more seasons than Thierry Henry in the PL. Henry won 4 golden boots and 3 back to back to back. Oh assist record holder👀 Rooney was really good though. But he played 233 more games than Henry and only scored 33 more goals than him. Henry Stats Games:258 Goals:175 Assist:74
i think it was based more on the fact watching henry play for arsenal was just something els. im not even a arsenal fan but when i saw henry play i was like, WOW, wtf is this guy made out of. the guy was scary good and on top of it he made his football look so slick and sexy. rooney in the other hand i think he is very underrated because i agree with you he is world class and his stats speack for himself but for england he won nothing for them like henry did for france and in united he kind of fall behind as a fan fav with the likes of schools, ronaldo, giggs and im sure missing much more player. Rooney is defo one of them players which now looking back, i think i should have been more greatfull for the player i was watching insted of just being 'meh he is okay'
Rory compliments the show so well. Should collab more often with him
They both said that they'd love to make more content together so we're good
He’s so biased 😭🤣
Don’t want to be a prick but I’m only watching this video because of Rory
@@OKkidA-jg1nt he put Drogba at like 7th no? I'd like to see you admit one of your best players isn't as good as your rivals best players.
"Complements" dude. Compliment is when you say something nice about someone. Don't mean to be rude or anything.
Can't wait for the defenders edition of this. Need to see where the legendary Phil Jones will end up
Phil Jones x Mustafi combo incoming
Top 2 and not 2
Johnny Evans has to defo be top 10
On the floor, nutting the ball, dreaming of a return to Blackburn
😂😂😂
Forgot to mention Sergio has the most hat tricks, scored 5 in one game, won the title in the last minute,most goals for one club in the prem.
Koran phelps he was 3rd or 4th. Which at the end of the day is fair. However I was stating that they never mentioned what I mentioned above.
@@STE7470 at least 2nd, as a striker id say hes number 1 but Henry is a better player overall
@@riyadmahrez2616 bit before my time Henry but I can appreciate the ability he had but was he a striker? If Henry is included I’d have included Salah.
@@STE7470 Yeh he started as a winger but was converted into a striker
Imagine if he hadn’t of had those injuries too, I think he could’ve maybe caught Rooney in Prem goals
big up the proper chels lads, shaun still showing his massive head has an equally massive brain
looool he has no ball knowledge
Watch the salah video might change ur mind 🤣
@@ethanhawkins7966 didnt age too well xD
He didnt even have cole on his list🤣 a top 3 striker not in the top 10, 3rd top scorer and he didnt even take pens
Henry has 4 PL golden boots. Nobody has more. Rooney and Shearer played in the league much longer than Henry. Henry the only PL player to have 20+ goals and 20+ assists in one PL season
@Oli Black shearer was literally retired when Henry was playing for Barcelona...
Rooney didn’t play in his natural position though, if he did he would’ve equalled 4
@Oli Black Henry had won everything at that age, shearer had a prem league. Seems a dumb comparison either way.
@Oli Black wasn't comparing trophies though was I? You said he was in the MLS, I simply said that's because he had nothing to left to seriously fight for, which was your initial reason to belittle Henry.
@Oli Black @Oli Black it's not comparing if it's adding context to you initial point mate, I never said it made him better than shearer did I?.
I don't see why a Frenchman would care at all about setting the EPL record in 2006. It's a non starter for me as a conversation goes.
star is jokes what a legend
Massive Respect To Vardy Man Literally Came Into The League At 27 And Now In 100 Goal Club And Achieved Great Things At Leicester who aren't even considered a top 6 Team Just Incredible When He Retires His legacy will Age Well with His movie coming out soon
More epl goals than drogba and he won Leicester the league single handedly and golden boot
For real it’s crazy what he has done
Jamie vardy has a bigger premier league legacy than harry kane 🤣
Its a great story what a legend he is ..I bet he pays for nothing in Leicester
Idk how he ain’t on the list it’s a joke
Rory had aguero in 8th I think that may be the worst thing I’ve ever seen in my life
The fact you’ve called yourself KDB with the profile picture to match is a lot worse
@@michaelshoemonster563 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@michaelshoemonster563 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@michaelshoemonster563 He's still correct
Exactly
Crazy how Torres would've been on this list if he didn't fall off the way he did at Chelsea. From Ballon d'Or podium to not even Top 15.
But He won it all bro... can't say that for any body else in that list tho.
@@ousamaakhtar5766 what did Rooney drogba Cole not win
@@wajster2959 national trophies
@@Wimpynino they don’t matter to this list 😂
I'd put him above Suarez easily
Although maybe not top 5 but I'm very surprised nobody mentioned Michael Owen!
Granted he fell off towards the end of his career but let's not forget he won the Ballon d'Or whilst in the Premier League and won the two golden boots at 17 and 18.
Phenomenal player in his prime before injuries sadly took their tole.
Even as an arsenal fan i completely agree👍
I was so surprised as well
Would of broke every record going if he had not got a serious hamstring injury against Leeds at the tender age of 21.
Agreed, Owen should’ve been right below Nistelrooy
Owen didn't deserve that Ballondor, R9 did. But ok
Rooney was an absolute machine put team and the win before himself. The way he played for the badge was incredible. The time he got injured and played on with a limp making cruical tackles and such was immense.
Rooney shouldn’t be in the top strikers debate he should just be in the top players list
@@anny-ei7kl considering he is england and united top scorer he has to be there
It was Rooney's work that helped Ronaldo soo much according to Gary Neville...
@@harishg1507 That is a very over rated argument... I was at 99% of games over that period... The team was functioning for Rooney just as much as it was for Ronaldo... Park, Fletch, Welbeck were the big sacrificial lambs.
@@mnb9162 That was said on record by Gary Neville , he mentioned Tevez too working his socks off to adopt to Ronaldo .
Keep in mind Aguero hasn’t spent his whole career at City, AND he always had an injury. The guy was and is a genius
I mean, it was practically his whole career
@@CrossxFir3 Not really?
5 of his 15 European seasons were spent at Atleti. Those 5 seasons aren't insignificant and are worth mentioning.
@@anzacxlag2606 exactly cuz he did win the Europa league w atletico
15. Salah 2:54
14. Van persie 4:05
13. Vardy 4:30
12. Ian Wright 8:53
11. Cantona 9:00
10. Suarez 10:10
9. Ruud van 12:45
8. Kane 15:40
7. Drogba 20:37
6. Andy Cole 25:40
5. Dennis Berghamp 31:45
4. Rooney 37:58
3. Sergio Aguero 47:00
2. Shearer 53:25
1. Thierry Henry 53:45
Thank you.
3:43 Shaun says Salah is a winger. Then argues that Salah isn’t a winger in the top 10 wingers video 😂
Henry was a left winger..
@@EnlightenedTurtle At Juventus and Monaco yes. At Arsenal he played through the middle
@@EnlightenedTurtle pires or lujnberg played on the left mate
Enlightened Turtle not a winger in the prem tho you melt
@@RHNGaming a nazi watching black guys discuss football? Crazy universe we live in
Having Rory here makes it even better. I hope he makes more appearances
bar the aguero being at 8th lmao
aguero 8th is one of the worst takes ive ever seen hahahahah
Hes 2nd in my list
The thing is, Kane’s career and legacy could be underwhelming depending on what happens in the future.
Exactly. There's so many strikers whose legacies are ruined or at least dampened by how they end their careers. Like how star completely forgot about Rooney because he burned out so much younger than most other players. I feel like building an incredible legacy is about being consistently amazing from start to finish and finishing on a high. I mean imagine the hype Aguero would get after he retired if he'd won City their first Champions league in his last ever game for them? Deserved or not I think everyone would put him over Rooney simply because of how poetic it would be. Like I'm a Chelsea fan and accepted that as a goalscorer Drogba's not up there with the very best in the Prem (although I will say is he was about a hell of a lot more than goals). But he's looked as one of the greatest because of how poetic his career was and that game in Munich.
His legacy could also be like Michael Owen Premier League career.
@@emilezola1458 Owen won the league with united and won some trophies with Liverpool Kane hasn't even got a league cup to his name. If people are so harsh on Gerrard for not winning the league despite winning everything else in club football then Kane doesn't even belong in the conversation. Although he will probably get a move to city and he'll get given the league on a silver platter eventually
@@Snapmaw to be considered In top 10 strikers of all time it makes no sense to be on what you’ve won like for me it’s just goals and for me kane is top 5 easy
@@mason6789 Yes but as I said in my original comment Gerrard has literally won every trophy in club football except the premier League in England but you have people saying he doesn't have the right to be mentioned with the likes of lampard and scholes when there's an argument he may have been better. People have and always will judge on trophies and not numbers on the pitch as sad as it is. Kane needs to win something
Rory is thinking about the Kick off reactions 🤣 winding Buvey up with Aguero and hyping up Shearer for Geordie
A suggestion for future vids could be ranking the top 10 greatest peaks from each position that would be a good discussion hopefully guys like so sharky can see
The starplayer - rory connection is jokes I love it 😂
This brothers channel is brilliant ngl. Yo does Darkest watch football? Because his picks for a top 10 in anything would be hilarious
My newborn has watched more football then him
Vardy actually deserves a place on here, starplayer is spitting
Nice pfp
maybe 10th.
@My Name yes
You're either 14 or u smoke your toenails
Over drogs? You’re lost
I love the vids, but can you guys do all time for everything not just prem cause it’s more debatable and harder
like the next video maybe, (top them best players of all time)
I guess it’ll be too hard at that point, because of age and quality of football. I think its good how it is.
There were so many players i just loved to watch, that weren't necessarily the most lethal strikers. Dicanio, Berkamp, Letessier, Zola, Suarez, that were almost magical at times.
U think suarez isn't a lethal strikers😂😂😂
So Rory says he would have put Kane in the list if he moved to City and won them the league with his goals, but he also didn’t put Van Persia in the list even though he moved to United and won them the league with his goals…
I appreciate what Shaun did here.. He made a mistake in judgement and he was completely honest with it.. He could have said that he forgot but it takes much more courage to accept that he made a judgement mistake in the case of Andy Cole.. People are always bashing him for being bias but his knowledge of the game is much wide than other guys in this show..
Just to help Rory out a bit with justifying Rooney over Henry; he is the only player in the prem to have over 200 goals AND over 100 assists. That is honestly supreme as a feat. Not saying he's clear of Henry, but I'd entertain the argument.
He just reached his peak too young, Henry was a different breed though
@@Lmikejagger He did peak early but that's not really an applicable argument here because the amount of time he spent at his peak is still longer than most players they discussed simply because he was elite at such a young age. The argument is better if you're comparing him to players that have been elite for 15+ years, which are only a handful of players in history. Some of the all time greats had relatively short peaks. Zidane arguably didn't become world class until he was 25/26, Ronaldinho's peak was like 6 years etc. By comparison, Rooney was elite for a good 11 years. Henry was also elite for about 10 years.
Rooney played Moore than 200 games more than Henry though
@@jammyjam123 I know, I'm mostly playing devil's advocate. Rooney also contributed to 5 title's compared to Henry's 2. I think there is enough to justify Rooney's selection, I just don't think Rory did a good job of making the argument.
Rooney did play way more games than Henry in the prem to be fair
Rory: But look at Rooney's career!
Henry: World Cup, euros, premier league, la liga, Champions League
he said while he was in the prem tbf
Talking about their time in a PL team.
Winning la liga during his PL career was mightily impressive.
@@d4ve19 😂
@@d4ve19 partey can sympathise
rory is a walking L having Aguero 8th , he is 2nd or 3rd no debate , the only ones with a shout are Henry and Shearer
Ur right
facts disrespect
Liverpool fan here, Rooney is top 3 with Henry and Shearer
@@dylanmulroe9978 i agree
@@dylanmulroe9978 he's not. Rooney was bang average from 2013 onwards and only had two 20 goal seasons
When we do these lists in 10 years time, Vardy will be on there. 11 games in a row, dragging Leicester to win the league against 5000/1 odds.
Maybe not the most technical, but I think the group seriously underrated his achievements. Maybe not as high as 6, but definitely 10th. Put Vardy in Man United or Chelsea in 2016/17 and he pulls 30 a season every season.
This is what I hate. I'd probably put Vardy in my top 10 at the end of his career but you just can't speculate about what he could've done if he'd played for a different club. Some players play better in teams with better players around them. Some play worse with the added pressure. Some look better in worse teams. Some are worse because they get less service. You can overrate or discredit any player ever by talking about ifs. Like if Aguero didn't play for City of Salah didn't play for Liverpool they'd be shit. Or if Vardy had played for Chelsea he'd have outscored Diego Costa. Its just so ridiculous to speculate. Judge each player by what they did not what they could've, should've or would've done.
@@Anonymous-xr8hx you make some good points to be fair. But winning a league title for Leicester and an FA Cup is a massive achievement.
@@akeemguy7331 I totally agree. Think he'll retire as an all time great for what he's achieved at Leicester and where he's come from. Just don't like people talking about "ifs" when reflecting on a player's career, because you can't judge something that didn't happen.
@@Anonymous-xr8hx Yeah you are right about that too and people do tend to judge hypothetical situations alot
Disagree I think the style Leicester play suits him 2 a t think he wouldn’t score as many in these teams his record in big games is brilliant
This is one of my all-time favourite TH-cam videos. Lads, it was amazing! I joined this channel off the back of Rorys channel, and I'm so glad I did! Love this video and I'm now a subscriber
After hearing the top-10 striker debate numerous times over the years from various sources, I've come to the conclusion that you need to be a Chelsea fan to really appreciate Drogba as an elite striker.
Not true , Drogba was prem best striker behind Henry , you’re a clueless football fan to disagree
@@1FORIMPERIUM 0.41 goals per game in the premier league isn't "elite". 9 goals in 9 finals, however, is. So in that sense, when Chelsea fans talk about Drogba being the ultimate big game player I have to agree - Hence my point. Maybe the issue stems from the fact that rival fans will point to his goals-per-game ratio when discussing all-time best PL strikers and Chelsea fans will point to his finals record and overall positive effect on the dressing room and club culture. Perhaps Drogba was only a GOOD striker, but an ELITE character who personified the winning culture Chelsea began building the same time he joined them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I would say he is 10th because he was a part of the Chelsea transformation
if your argument is goals, drogba was not a stay in the box stiker, did not take penalties and every season went to CAN 1 month, so only by that you can add 10 goals to every season he has played, but even besides that, you gotta understant football to know how crucial, genius and important he was
just a request can u rank managers and centre backs, keen to see the groups views on both
I agree with the overall top 10 but I’ll rearrange it a bit. My top 10:
1. Henry
2. Shearer
3.Aguero
4. Bergkamp
5. Rooney
6. Cole
7. Kane
8. Drogba
9. Suarez
10. RVN
Suarez shouldn’t be in the list and bergksamp was great but too high cos he didn’t score near enough to be fourth best striker of all time
My top 10:
1 Aguero
2 Henry
3 Drogba
4 Rooney
5 Shearer
6 Cantona
7 Van Persie
8 Suarez
9 Vardy
10 Kane
How do you have Van persie over Suarez,Drogba over Rooney and Aguero over Henry?
Your ranking is shit.Drogba is not a top 3 striker of all time
@@reynoldriper9814 he is tho
@@matthayes3018 Chelsea fan?
@@reynoldriper9814 his opinion you mug
Question to Rory: If Harry kane overtakes shearer as all time top scorer and wins a prem, is he your all time best premier league striker?
No behind Henry still but top 2/3
Worse than Aguero and Henry imo
He’d have to do something unreal in an individual szn
@@jakenener1432 well he had a season where he had 29 goals in just 30 games. One of the few strikers to have a 30 goal season. And the only player to top both goals and assists in a 38 game season.
@@Enzophanis1892 where he stole 7 goals from erikson to catch up with salah
The fact that they left RVP off the top ten is criminal
He is top 7
What a vid but the contradictions are hilarious🤣 Rory - “if you score the goals that take your team to the title, I’ll probably put you on my list” but laughs at Vardy being in someone else’s top 10🤔🤷🏽♂️🤣
If Bergkamp travelled to more European away games we might have won a CL
Salah Holds the record for Most Goals In A Single Season. Madness.
If he continues this form he’s the undisputed greatest pre-K winger of all time
If he played for Man Utd he would be lorded as the greatest thing on the planet.
Do you mean in one campaign or all comps? If you're just talking about domestic Premiership goals then, Andy Cole & Alan Shearer's 34 goals in a single league season begs to differ. Insanity!
Aguero is the most decorated player on that list. In his last match he beat Rooneys record for most goals for one club. Prem record for most hattricks. It sucks that there aren't enough City fans to defend him
Not more decorated than Rooney… wazza quite literally has won every possible trophy at club level with United
Rooney > Aguero
@@reddevil9311 Aguero > Rooney
@@xxploded No way lol
@@reddevil9311 best goal to minute ratio pl
Most goals for a single club in pl
Most hattricks in pl
Most goals against big 6
Most points won by a single striker per game
Scored 93:20
Only thing rooney has on aguero is hes english
Literally watched one episode and subscribed. Loved this sick show
Rory is such a vibe imo
Loves the sound of his own voice
The King, Shearer, Aguero, Rooney, Bergkamp, Cole, Ruud, Drogba, Suarez, Cantona. Can't believe Rory didn't have a combo of Henry/ Shearer for 1&2 lol
I always thought Rory was knowledgeable regarding football but not anymore haha. Aguero in 8th position????.
Couldn't agree more
These guys are unable to put aside their personal biases to make such a list.
Some of their reasoning is actually insane 🤣
Rory had Aguero at 8th 😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 Henry
2 Shearer - did as much and more without the supporting cast that everyone else had
3 Aguero
4 Rooney
5 Cole
6Wright
7 Van nistelrooy
8 Bergkamp - more talent than most but .. not a pure Striker
9 Cantona
10 Drogba
Lol Wright at 6?
Michael Owen literally won Ballon D’or…
1. Henry
2. Shearer
3. Aguero
4. Bergkamp
5. Cole
6. Rooney
7. Suarez
8. Kane
9. RVP
10. van Nistelrooy
Switch Kane and Ruud Van Nistelrooy
I don’t like this “they haven’t won a league” talk, the league is a team award,
There are players WAY worse than Harry Kane that have won leagues, that isn’t a barometer of personal ability
I get your point, but i don't think that's what people mean when trophies are brought into the conversation. I think it's when you struggle to decide between players of a similar standard then the next metric you use is trophies.
That's true, but Harry kane is nowhere near top 10. He's a great player, bordering world class - but the definition of an all time PL great is that they should have a great goalscoring record along with trophies that came because of those goals. Kane's goals have nowhere ever led to that.
@@chazzxt1273 But unless u do think it’s a barometer for personal ability then what u wrote doesn’t make sense.
@@telmolicious I think it helps In an argument because at the end of the day it's something to show for a good players ability (ik its a team trophy). But take van dijk for example, liverpool would have found it much harder to win CL and PL without him as shown last season. We've seen kane in a few finals and he's never shown his worth
@@chazzxt1273 Gerrard doesn’t have a league title to show for his ability but I think it’s a ridiculous point cause we all know he woulda won had he played at United, Chelsea or Arsenal. To me it’s about performance. Not performing when it matters shows something about u as a player but no one player can control winning the league by himself.
50:35 Aguero.. #2 all time scorer (his brace in his final PL appearance tied, then moved him past Rooney into 2nd place), most goals for a single club, most goals by a foreign born player, most hat tricks in premier league history, tied the record most goals in a single match, and that 93:20 title winner in 11-12 changed the destiny of that club forever as it marked the beginner of City's dynasty. The significance of that goal in both Man City's and the Premier League's history... far more important the Drogba header. not even close.
Best mins/goal ratio out of everyone in the list as well
People underrate him as a footballer too, he wasn’t just a finisher. In his prime he could’ve easily played as a midfielder with his pace and tiki taka style. Remember in a game Liverpool were cruising 3-0 vs city him picking up the ball from deep and driving at our defence scoring a screamer and the game finished 3-2, people don’t seem to credit him as a footballer at all. My 3rd most feared player in pl history after ronaldo and hazard
Maddest thing is R9 didn’t even know who Chelsea were during his playing days 😂
Yes that’s why Oliver Giroud has more UCL than him and the same number of WC titles👍🏻
@@Jord40 R9 has 2 world cups tho
@@hughjazz6300 94 he was 17 and was watching from the bench tho
@@Jord40 ain’t no way you just compared Olivier fucking Giroud to R9!!😂. You chelsea fans are shameless 😂😂
@@Jord40 Still counts. Also Giroud was about as useful in 2018 as R9 was on the bench at 94
In no order mine are:
Henry, shearer, drogba, suarez, cantona, kane, aguero, Rooney, Wright, Van persie,
Andy cole??
Jokeman
1-aguero
2-thierry Henry
3-alan sharer
4-luis saurez
5-eden dzeko
6-micheal Owen
7-van persie
8-andy Cole
9-didier Drogba
10-harry kane
My guy said dzeko plz tell me your joking.
To have Ruud in the list over King Cantona is kinda crazy to me
I think there only counting Premier league.
Cantona wasn't a striker though. He was more of a number 10.
1. Thierry Henry
2. Sergio Aguero
3. Alan Shearer
4. Harry Kane
5. Wayne Rooney
6. Ruud van Nistelroy
7. Luis Suarez
8. Robin van Persie
9. Robbie Fowler
10. Didier Drogba
Honorable Mentions: Eric Cantona, Andy Cole, Michael Owen, Ian Wright and Dennis Bergkamp.
How could I forget Ian Wright ffs??
I'm actually baffled when Suarez made the list but Michael Owen at Liverpool didn't even get mentioned. He was immense!
Michael Owen would easily be on this list over Suarez or Vardy (Maybe Kane too). Probably not over Suarez for career but certainly over him for EPL Would be the only one on this list with a golden ball at home.
The only blip on Bergkamp is he never really travelled outside the UK because of his fear of flying or his stats would of been even more ridiculous
He is Dutch and previously played for Ajax and then Inter Milan.
Are they gonna make a top ten wingers/wing midfielders because they haven't mentioned some of the all time greats like Beckham, Giggs, Ronaldo etc in the midfield
probably will.
man utd would dominate that so they probs won't
Beckham is overrated
@@Exzactz He won 3 PFA player of the year awards in a row, came 2nd in Ballon d'Or voting to Rivaldo in 99, finished twice as FIFA world player of the year in 99 and 01 and is probably the best free kick specialist the prem has ever seen
He's without a doubt a top 10 midfielder of all time if you actually count mids that play on the wings
Guess whos a united fan
They keep saying he’s 34 and much younger that Ronaldo.
Rooney turns 36 this month and is only 6 months younger than Ronaldo…
Henry, shearer, aguero, sherringham, Bergkamp, Owen, Drogba, Andy Cole, Cantona, ruud
Bergkamp isn’t a top ten premier league striker but he’s definitely a top ten prem player. Michael owen and Robbie Fowler should’ve been in there.
Not in top 10 st but he’s in your top 10 players? Pls explain how😂
@@NToTheAthan I don’t view him as a striker
I was going to write something similar but couldn't be bothered with the explanations but....since you said it...I agree. Bergkamp and Sheringham played as no 9s in their early careers but are probably best known now as supporting forwards. Other names are out and out no 9s (Shearer, Cole, etc). Some others could play either role fairly equally (Suarez, Cantona, etc). It's difficult to have all in the one list and probably easier to ask who have been the best no 9s and who have been the best no 10s.
It's also difficult because are we asking which strikers were the best to play in the Premier League or which strikers played their best in the Premier League? These are different things. Also...how to account for longevity? Davor Suker was a class striker, but not in England. Ditto Shevchenko. Ibrahimovic was a class striker, but the vast majority of his career was outside England.
@@NToTheAthan It ain't rocket science pal
@@CoolDude-jp1kj bit late ain’t ya
Yh sharky begs you do best managers in prem of all time
Henry absolutely has to be number 1 there's no question
Shearer has more goal
Only person who arguably could go ahead is Shearer I do think this is a younger audience I mean no mention of Wright or Fowler
Actually surprised I haven't even heard a whisper for Carlos Tevez
Sorry Shaun but having Suarez and Kane in over cole is insanity. Won the treble amount of goals he scored and won the golden boot and assists before Harry Kane. Gotta be top 5 strikers for me
Yeah i had a bit of a stinker there. 😂
Suarez is way better than Cole tho
@@CoolDude-jp1kj from a technical standpoint as an out and out striker, Suarez is arguably the greatest.
This has to be the most civil conversation I've heard
As a United fan, I'd take Henry, Shearer over Wazza as a better striker. But I will absolutely not take any other answer than Wayne Rooney for the best ever premier league player.
the opposite is the popular opinion, and for a good reason. shearer and aguero better strikers than henry, but he’s the greatest player to grace the prem
Nah Rooney has the 2nd most goal in epl history and 3rd most assists in epl history. They talk about some strikers being lethal and some being unselfish and helping the team. Throughout his career, Rooney has taken both roles and excelled in them. He has more assists than Lampard, Gerrard, Silva, Bergkamp and Beckham. That’s madness. Even though Henry could do both and his football was beautiful to watch, there’s no way you deny Rooney wasn’t in his own universe.
Another sick video smashed it lads! 👏 can’t lie I’m with Starplayer with the Vardy shout though 👀
rooney didnt burn out quick. He scored 10+ for 10 years with nearly 10 assists in most of those seasons. Plus he had two like 25 goal + seasons
He only broke 20 twice tho. The top guys break 20 every single year
@@paulcasey4282 Rooney isn’t an out and out striker, he’s more of a CF involved in play but he still had the capability.
@@paulcasey4282 those guys were always the focal point of the team. Rooney was a supporting striker right from the start of his time at united e.g. van nistelrooy, saha, tevez etc.
@@paulcasey4282 he got 26 and 27. And in the other seaosns he was getting 10-15 goals and 10+ assists. A lot of the other guys got like jack all assists. This was for 10 seasons. A lot of the other guys were either really good for 4 seasons or just good for 10 seasons
@@jeremy-pj1zx I’m not saying he isn’t a top 5 striker in the premier league all time. I’m just saying he’s not a top 2 like Rory had him. Thierry had more assists per game than Rooney as well as more goals per game. Assist/game -Rooney - 0.21, Henry - 0.28
Goals/game-Rooney 0.42, Henry - 0.68
Definitely have to carry this on and do goalkeepers, defenders & managers. Great video
do top 10 wingers in prem of all time
Best footballing content involving a nice chat about the game
I'm so confused as to why Michael Owen wasn't here, he won the Ballon D'or at such a young age
Good shout
He did but I think he isn’t making the most out of it…
@@arsenalx95 Cause if Saurez is only there based off of one season then surely Micheal Owen should be there for his Ballon D'or winning season
@@stormraven198 They missed Robbie Fowler, idk how!
Do me a favour mate
1. Thierry Henry
2. Sergio Aguero
3. Wayne Rooney
4. Alan Shearer
5. Didier Drogba
6. Harry Kane
7. Robin Van Persie
8. Cristiano Ronaldo - Not enough games in PL yet
9. Mohammed Salah
10. Dimitar Berbatov
Suarez is easily top 5
I’m surprised as how no one talks about van persie
Is this :
Best player in the striker position ?
Best goal scorer ?
Player with the most goals ?
Player with most trophies ?
It sure doesn't seem like it's a combination of these, but none fit on their own either !
Doesn’t Vardy hold the record for goals in consecutive games although I think 6th is a bit high I’d have to agree that he could be debated at about 9th or 10th
Aguero is second Rory dropped one of the biggest howlers ever there
I love sharky man. He is really organized with everything and really knows how to run a podcast.
1) Aguero
2) Henry
3) Sheerer
4) Rooney
how did fernando torres not get a mention? let alone make the top 10, the man was the best striker in the world when he was at Liverpool.
I think because his drop off was so damn atrocious. I wouldn’t put him in my 10 because half his prem career he had some sort of voodoo on him
@@MrRandyKomi yeah he was god damn awful at chelsea but the 3-4 seasons he had at liverpool alone should make him top 10 or at least an honourable mention.
@@oneshak not exactly true. He was injured for large chunks of his time at Liverpool and then the last 12 months at Liverpool he was pretty bad. His head wasn't there.
Loved this debate. Lots of different points and views but constructed very well by each person. Happy new year all
41:56 Sounds exactly like DT from AFTV
Very surprised Fowler didn’t make it nevermind not mentioned
Andy Cole was also a very intelligent player.. Great link up play.. He did miss chances.. Becks & Giggs were firing them in the box across that period.
I honestly thought he had missed wor Big Al (Shearer) would’ve wounded me! Great video though love the addition of Rory!
Not having Cantona in top 10 is outrageous
Henry
Shearer
Aguero
Rooney
Drogba
Andy Cole
Kane
Suarez
Vardy
Fowler
Anelka
Matt Le Tissier
Jari Litmanen was the next Bergamp at Ajax. Actually Ajax started to win Erediviese titles and went 2 times in a row to Champions League final and won one of them after Litmanen took Bergamp starting spot after he left Ajax. Sadly Litmanen was made of glass and his career at the top was short.
Another player that was pure class whose career was sadly cut short was Luc Nilis. He is on a par from a technical standpoint to Bergkamp. That Bergkamp goal vs Newcastle, there is a clip of Luc Nilis scoring an identical goal and I believe before Bergkamp scored his.
People really don’t understand how potent Kane is.
29 goals in 30 PL games in 2015/16
30 in 37 PL games in 2016/17
Won the golden boot and playmaker award in 2021.
He has 243 goals in his last 8 seasons.
He outscored Messi and Ronaldo over a full year.
In total he’s made 5 PL team of the years, 3x golden boots, 1x playmaker. He’s going to be the PL and Englands all time greatest scorer.
Rory not having him on his list is just … unfathomable. Even if he is a Chelsea fan.
Rory sees the game so well and is such a great analyst and incorporates history tremendously. But he really dropped the ball in this one in having Aguero 8th and trying to defend having Rooney second over Henry🤕. As a Chelsea supporter myself, I how they would kill us but they were extremely elite
Henry was in the prem for 8 seasons..he scored 175 goals and 74 assist..you know how mad that is?? Top 3 in that list only he had the least years in the prem
If Bergkamp is 5th then Cantona should definitely be at least top 6-7.
Cantona didn't play as an out and out striker. Bergkamp for a time did.
@@garymaidman625 And that is why Bergkamp shouldn't be in this list. Bergkamp is not an elite goalscorer but an elite scorer of spectacular goals!
@@blackerscreenproductions1368 Bergkamp should be on this list because Bergkamp is an elite striker. Being a striker is more than just goals. Bergkamp was one of the most technically gifted players of his generation. He was already 10 years into his career by the time he moved to Arsenal and was instrumental in Arsenal winning the league multiple times. He scored roughly every two and a half matches for Arsenal when he was in the back end of his career. To say he wasn't an elite goal is delusional. And just for the record, I am not an Arsenal fan, I'm a Liverpool fan.
for me
10-kane
9-cantona
8-bergkamp
7-cristiano
6-nisterlooy
5-drogba
4-rooney
3-aguero
2-shearer
1-henry
U don’t know ball
Can’t have Vardy for that ‘1’ season
I’m putting in Suarez for that 1 season. 🤔
That Suarez season is levels above vardys tho
Henry
Agüero
Shearer
Kane
Rooney
Cole
Bergkamp
Cantona
Nistelrooy
Drogba
Rory no Henry was better
Rooney stats
Games: 491
Goals: 208
Assist: 103
Never hit 30 goals and played 9 more seasons than Thierry Henry in the PL. Henry won 4 golden boots and 3 back to back to back. Oh assist record holder👀 Rooney was really good though. But he played 233 more games than Henry and only scored 33 more goals than him.
Henry Stats
Games:258
Goals:175
Assist:74
i think it was based more on the fact watching henry play for arsenal was just something els. im not even a arsenal fan but when i saw henry play i was like, WOW, wtf is this guy made out of. the guy was scary good and on top of it he made his football look so slick and sexy.
rooney in the other hand i think he is very underrated because i agree with you he is world class and his stats speack for himself but for england he won nothing for them like henry did for france and in united he kind of fall behind as a fan fav with the likes of schools, ronaldo, giggs and im sure missing much more player.
Rooney is defo one of them players which now looking back, i think i should have been more greatfull for the player i was watching insted of just being 'meh he is okay'