I finished watching the Third season; I couldn't stop crying over the fact John went looking to see how his friend was and found Vanessa had died. He never knew what she was going through; he just keeled in front of her grave, feeling sad and alone.
Can we talk about Vanessa was the first woman Caliban ever met who was kind to him not because she pitied him? She saw him as an equal 😭 “You have beautiful eyes” the most genuine compliment he probably ever received. Ugh
LordLightning 23 And how do you work that out?...rejection and menacing bullying reigns well today as it did in Victorian England. Clare felt it in his life as much as anyone.
It is basically about what we allow to hurt us as well. At times I myself have given too much time and importance to who blatantly wants to hurt me and so I raise that part of my life to an all level high intensity that pains through and through and through. I struggle to now give less importance and time to pain but rather try to nurture all things "light". Sadness, loneliness, not finding kindred spirits gives life no sense. But firstly I need to heal myself in order to spare myself of loneliness. A double-edged sword.
They're making a new show, but it's a different cast and time period (30's Los Angeles). Rory Kinnear (The Creature) is returning, though he's playing a different character.
John Clare was an English poet with a very difficult life, whose spelling was not up to date. And yet, there could have been no one better. An absolute masterpiece...
On my 3rd pass through. Watching this (their interactions were always a favorite part for me) . . . I realize they were in something else together. (Casino Royale.) Even though they didn't have scenes together in that.
If I were to ever meet Eva Green I would thank her for Vanessa Ives and what amount of herself she put into the character. She is beautiful on the inside, not just the out.
Yes, I strongly feel the same. This series is beyond anything I have ever seen. Every character is deep and rich, dialogues and storylines also I love how each of then evolve and develop ALSO cinematography and all the art of these costumes and make up. It's pure cold.
@marisviktoriakalle3552 your reply made me smile. I still cherish the fondest of memories of the series, still think about it, and talk about it with my friends who also love it. ❤️ as you said it "pure gold"
This man is just talking... yes it is just voice but every single freakin time when I listen to this, i don’t even know why and I am not a native speaker so do not understand all the meanings, but my heart tear apart. It’s just fucking sad but at the same time, beautiful.
These actors that have done live Shakespeare like Rory Kinnear always shine in shows like this, they are not just repeating lines, every subtle intonation or pause is fabulous, you believe what they are saying.
A wonderful poem. Not at all freaky. He was known as the Peasants Poet. Not respected enough. His poem I Am ,is special to me as I have spent a long time in Mental Hospitals and he reflects how I felt. I am better now but I still remember how it felt. Unfortunately in John Clare's time there would have been no drugs to help. It is thought that he might have had Bi Polla. He died in the Assylum. He loved nature and the country side. .It is worth visiting Helpston where he lived. You can go round his cottage. His grave is in the church Yard and every year the local children put flowers round his grave. He was very poor and undernourished. That is probably why he was so small .He married and had children.Not at all strange or freaky. Maybe if he had been richer he may have been more respected and of course mental illness would have caused rejection as it still does today. He did have a period when he went to London and published a book. But reading between the lines I think he was laughed and ridiculed. Un fortunately the Mone y he made from his book was spent. Anyway it s well worth looking him up Thank you for the wonderful rendition of I AM spocken with such feeling.
I grew up in Etton (one village over) & went to Helpston Primary School. The pupils loved John Clare’s Memorial Day - it wasn’t just laying flowers as such - every child got to create their own tiny garden in a small rectangular flat plant pot. These then got placed around his grave. I remember making a tiny pond in mine, & using real flowers around the edge to mimic a reed bed. It was always a lovely day for nature lovers.
reminds me a little of this... When I am dead, my dearest, Sing no sad songs for me; Plant thou no roses at my head, Nor shady cypress tree: Be the green grass above me With showers and dewdrops wet; And if thou wilt, remember, And if thou wilt, forget. I shall not see the shadows, I shall not feel the rain; I shall not hear the nightingale Sing on, as if in pain: And dreaming through the twilight That doth not rise nor set, Haply I may remember, And haply may forget.
I am-yet what I am none cares or knows; My friends forsake me like a memory lost: I am the self-consumer of my woes- They rise and vanish in oblivious host, Like shadows in love’s frenzied stifled throes And yet I am, and live-like vapours tossed Into the nothingness of scorn and noise, Into the living sea of waking dreams, Where there is neither sense of life or joys, But the vast shipwreck of my life’s esteems; Even the dearest that I loved the best Are strange-nay, rather, stranger than the rest. I long for scenes where man hath never trod A place where woman never smiled or wept There to abide with my Creator, God, And sleep as I in childhood sweetly slept, Untroubling and untroubled where I lie The grass below-above the vaulted sky.
Superb! How amazing poetry can be, all that old and forgotten Words, wrotes by a beautiful outsider like John Clare. Thanks John Logan for Penny Dreadful, Thanks Rory and Eva for this performance and Thanks to you for share this scene.
Into the nothingness of noise and scorn, Into the living sea of waking dreams, Where there is neither sense of life or joy; But the vast shipwreck of my life’s esteems. Even the dearest that I love the best Are strange - nay, rather stranger than the rest.
Into the nothingness of scorn and noise Into the sea of waking dreams Where there is neither sense of life or joys But the vast shipwreck of my life's steams Even the dearest that I loved the best Are strange--nay, rather stranger than the rest John Clare ❤❤❤
Best character i ever watched or read, perfectly performed by a gifted actor to an amazing production🤘🤘🤘Thank you all for the masterpiece of Penny Dreadfull🥺️🥺️🥺️🤘🤘🤘🤘
It's so genius how Vanessa Ives knows this poem, mentioning it in the flashback episode "A Blade of Grass" in season 3: "I am nothing. I am no more than a blade of grass. But I Am."
I watched this series when it came out years ago, and only recently came across the poetry of John Clare. I'd forgotten he was referenced in this show and it only just clicked when this video came up. This particular poem is, I think, the last that he wrote, during the last of his days which he spent in a mental asylum.
How I wish for the warmth of the friendship of one such as Vanessa Ives. The longer I draw breath the colder and emptier I realize that this world seems to be, yet I cling to it like a life ring for the horrible fear that is beginning to set in that there might be nothing at all waiting on the other side should I choose to leave it. Why must I be so cursed? Nevermind, I forgot the anwser for a second. It's "Why not?".
I really wish that TH-cam and Showtime hadn't yanked all the clips that are longer than a minute and some change, you don't get the essense of the scenes with these short clips.
perhaps due to this he felt singular affinity with the outcasts and the unloved ones. The ugly animals, the broken things. John clare is forgiven for all the murders in the series.
Isn't it said that God created man because he was lonely? If even God can get lonely, then well... Seems to me that loneliness is a requisite for self aware consciousness. Others did not spurn or abandon you, they were never yours to begin with. The difference lies in the illusion into which we flee, and in which we suffer the precariousness of the existential premise of a narcissist. It's cowardice in its most clarified form.
He's vengeful, cunning, sadistic, jealous, ambitious. A twisted Slytherin. Sort of like Snape. I actually see a lot of Snape in him. They're both tortured souls who live a sad existence. But deep inside, they only want love.
2024 and still can’t get over Penny Dreadful
Just rewatched it and it broke my heart again in a good way. I miss Vanessa Ives as she was my friend.
could not agree more
I finished watching the Third season; I couldn't stop crying over the fact John went looking to see how his friend was and found Vanessa had died. He never knew what she was going through; he just keeled in front of her grave, feeling sad and alone.
The same here 🙋♀️
❤
Can we talk about Vanessa was the first woman Caliban ever met who was kind to him not because she pitied him? She saw him as an equal 😭 “You have beautiful eyes” the most genuine compliment he probably ever received. Ugh
"I am the self consumer of my woes" - captures the essence of loneliness and isolation in a single sentence
Omar Chaudhry it is always our fault even if others cause our misery
LordLightning 23 And how do you work that out?...rejection and menacing bullying reigns well today as it did in Victorian England. Clare felt it in his life as much as anyone.
It is basically about what we allow to hurt us as well. At times I myself have given too much time and importance to who blatantly wants to hurt me and so I raise that part of my life to an all level high intensity that pains through and through and through. I struggle to now give less importance and time to pain but rather try to nurture all things "light". Sadness, loneliness, not finding kindred spirits gives life no sense. But firstly I need to heal myself in order to spare myself of loneliness. A double-edged sword.
Exactly, to be seen as a loser in a despicable world; and be so loathed that self-esteem does not exist.
@@benedelbi2878 this was so beautiful, it sounds like a poem
2019 and I still cant get over Penny Dreadful
They're making a new show, but it's a different cast and time period (30's Los Angeles). Rory Kinnear (The Creature) is returning, though he's playing a different character.
2020 and I still cant either
me too
@@RyBPierce saw the trailer, nothing can match the unparalleled performance of this cast
@@anjalisharma-de4yg Good to hear. I'll have to check that out!
Rory Kinnear became one of my favorite actors after watching this show. His performance as "John Clare" (Frankenstein's Monster) was outstanding!
John Clare was an English poet with a very difficult life, whose spelling was not up to date. And yet, there could have been no one better. An absolute masterpiece...
Whenever I see John Clare, I just wanna hug him. I also wanna hug the actor Rory who played this character so perfectly. ❤
On my 3rd pass through. Watching this (their interactions were always a favorite part for me) . . . I realize they were in something else together. (Casino Royale.) Even though they didn't have scenes together in that.
2023 and I’m still here. I love Penny Dreadful tv show
This show will forevermore literally hold my heart.
I feel the same way 😊
Me too ❤
If I were to ever meet Eva Green I would thank her for Vanessa Ives and what amount of herself she put into the character. She is beautiful on the inside, not just the out.
He is beautiful
The alchemy between them is so beautiful
I will never get over Penny Dreadful. 💔
Yes, I strongly feel the same. This series is beyond anything I have ever seen. Every character is deep and rich, dialogues and storylines also I love how each of then evolve and develop ALSO cinematography and all the art of these costumes and make up. It's pure cold.
@marisviktoriakalle3552 your reply made me smile. I still cherish the fondest of memories of the series, still think about it, and talk about it with my friends who also love it. ❤️ as you said it "pure gold"
Penny Deadful was a work of art itself!!!
They were soul mates, and I don't even believe in soul mates.
John Clare is a kindred spirit! His story was the best part of Penny Dreadful! One of the most memorable characters in tv history!
This man is just talking... yes it is just voice but every single freakin time when I listen to this, i don’t even know why and I am not a native speaker so do not understand all the meanings, but my heart tear apart. It’s just fucking sad but at the same time, beautiful.
Fantastic. You're alive.
These actors that have done live Shakespeare like Rory Kinnear always shine in shows like this, they are not just repeating lines, every subtle intonation or pause is fabulous, you believe what they are saying.
Vanessa and john had great chemistry together. I like all their scenes in this show.
I agree
Rory is a darling and an exceptional Actor. If this was a live show, I would have got up from my seat and clapped and cried like crazy.
Well said
this pair were phenomenal
This scene really stuck out to me from all the rest
A wonderful poem. Not at all freaky. He was known as the Peasants Poet. Not respected enough. His poem I Am ,is special to me as I have spent a long time in Mental Hospitals and he reflects how I felt. I am better now but I still remember how it felt. Unfortunately in John Clare's time there would have been no drugs to help. It is thought that he might have had Bi Polla. He died in the Assylum. He loved nature and the country side. .It is worth visiting Helpston where he lived. You can go round his cottage. His grave is in the church Yard and every year the local children put flowers round his grave. He was very poor and undernourished. That is probably why he was so small .He married and had children.Not at all strange or freaky. Maybe if he had been richer he may have been more respected and of course mental illness would have caused rejection as it still does today. He did have a period when he went to London and published a book. But reading between the lines I think he was laughed and ridiculed. Un fortunately the Mone y he made from his book was spent. Anyway it s well worth looking him up
Thank you for the wonderful rendition of I AM spocken with such feeling.
Reaching out across the internet to wish you well. Hope you have found peace.
Wonderful post and you stay well dear soul.
I just now heard of him through this. I'll look more up. Thanks.
I grew up in Etton (one village over) & went to Helpston Primary School. The pupils loved John Clare’s Memorial Day - it wasn’t just laying flowers as such - every child got to create their own tiny garden in a small rectangular flat plant pot. These then got placed around his grave. I remember making a tiny pond in mine, & using real flowers around the edge to mimic a reed bed. It was always a lovely day for nature lovers.
What's really impressive is that Vanessa, a woman who is surrounded with all darkness still brings so much light to the people. ❤️
I feel so bound to these characters... I find a little bit of myself on each one of them
Me too 😌
As if the world cannot hear that which is felt, yet they relay this which we all lone wolves feel.
Same here
one of my favorite character and one of the most perfect witch drama
This is an eternal show. after 100 years it will remain same - lovely and beautiful and fresh.
So cool! The Creature is the best part of the show.
kenneth frizzell he's a creature but at the same time the most humane of them all.
sad people like poetry, happy people like songs
I miss this series! So underrated!
"The grass below, above the vaulted sky." This is my best part of the poem..
reminds me a little of this... When I am dead, my dearest,
Sing no sad songs for me;
Plant thou no roses at my head,
Nor shady cypress tree:
Be the green grass above me
With showers and dewdrops wet;
And if thou wilt, remember,
And if thou wilt, forget.
I shall not see the shadows,
I shall not feel the rain;
I shall not hear the nightingale
Sing on, as if in pain:
And dreaming through the twilight
That doth not rise nor set,
Haply I may remember,
And haply may forget.
2021 and I still can't get over John Clare's poem.
I am-yet what I am none cares or knows;
My friends forsake me like a memory lost:
I am the self-consumer of my woes-
They rise and vanish in oblivious host,
Like shadows in love’s frenzied stifled throes
And yet I am, and live-like vapours tossed
Into the nothingness of scorn and noise,
Into the living sea of waking dreams,
Where there is neither sense of life or joys,
But the vast shipwreck of my life’s esteems;
Even the dearest that I loved the best
Are strange-nay, rather, stranger than the rest.
I long for scenes where man hath never trod
A place where woman never smiled or wept
There to abide with my Creator, God,
And sleep as I in childhood sweetly slept,
Untroubling and untroubled where I lie
The grass below-above the vaulted sky.
Awesome scene, awesome actors, outstanding performance..And I think it has one of the best series finale I've ever seen..
Best series I've ever seen
Superb! How amazing poetry can be, all that old and forgotten Words, wrotes by a beautiful outsider like John Clare. Thanks John Logan for Penny Dreadful, Thanks Rory and Eva for this performance and Thanks to you for share this scene.
To know poetry by heart like that!
dude it's less than 20 verses
takes u like 20 min to memorize them
@@waisehellIf you have adhd you will keep forgetting what you read.
Untroubling and untroubled , just hit right in the heart , this poem aches me so much
Such a beautiful scene in Penny dreadful ❤
In 2023, I've already been a memory that has been forsaken by all and I've remembered 'Jhon Clare'. Yes 'I Am' 😊
Into the nothingness of noise and scorn,
Into the living sea of waking dreams,
Where there is neither sense of life or joy;
But the vast shipwreck of my life’s esteems.
Even the dearest that I love the best
Are strange - nay, rather stranger than the rest.
So wonderful ,so deeply soul-soothing ....
Everytime I listen to him gives me chills in my spine .
Still the best dialogue in the show
2022 and still having chills on this scene
Into the nothingness of scorn and noise
Into the sea of waking dreams
Where there is neither sense of life or joys
But the vast shipwreck of my life's steams
Even the dearest that I loved the best
Are strange--nay, rather stranger than the rest
John Clare ❤❤❤
Best character i ever watched or read, perfectly performed by a gifted actor to an amazing production🤘🤘🤘Thank you all for the masterpiece of Penny Dreadfull🥺️🥺️🥺️🤘🤘🤘🤘
Rory does an exceptional job at John Clark. What a Beautiful Man, What a Beautiful Character❤
Did he play John Clark also? He did an excellent job as John Claire. I'll have to rewatch the series to find John Clark as I don't remember him.
It's so genius how Vanessa Ives knows this poem, mentioning it in the flashback episode "A Blade of Grass" in season 3: "I am nothing. I am no more than a blade of grass. But I Am."
One of our tutors favourite shows, and an incredible performance of a hauntingly beautiful poem!
OMG my feelings... *.* Beautiful poem and great actors!
Is it Wordsworth?
It's John Clare
I guess I can relate to John Clare too. Especially the line when he writes about being forgotten.
Am I the only one still watching this in 2018?
No
I think about Penny Dreadful every day so don't worry
2021 now boy
2022 and I am still on about Penny dreadful.
And If u realise that in the end, the only friend that John had is Vanessa and she is dead, broked my heart so bad.
This is so mfn beautiful. This man's voice is perfect for poetry reading.
What a deep conversation!
Nothings warms my heart more than an intelligent zombie in a coat
this poems really represent my hearts and feelings. I'm shorter than john. 4'8ft. Thank you Penny Dreadful
Wow wow I’m in love with this show!!! One of the best ever to be made
What a beautiful act by both of them throughout the series
This show got me into poetry.
Beautiful
Loved it, and the whole series, and I stil love it!!!!!
perpetual goosebumps!
I still come to this video. I still get those goosebumps! 😍
2022 and I am still not over it.
2021 and I still come back here when I need to feel like I am being understood.
what a poetry.
Can we get a show of these two just reciting poetry from the 1800s
I love him He was the best one
I watched this series when it came out years ago, and only recently came across the poetry of John Clare. I'd forgotten he was referenced in this show and it only just clicked when this video came up. This particular poem is, I think, the last that he wrote, during the last of his days which he spent in a mental asylum.
This is now my favorite poem.
A beautiful scene. No malicious dislikes. An honour well earned.
so sooo beautyful!!
Stunningly moving poem, beautifully read.
How I wish for the warmth of the friendship of one such as Vanessa Ives. The longer I draw breath the colder and emptier I realize that this world seems to be, yet I cling to it like a life ring for the horrible fear that is beginning to set in that there might be nothing at all waiting on the other side should I choose to leave it. Why must I be so cursed? Nevermind, I forgot the anwser for a second. It's "Why not?".
That sounded like poetry in and of itself
absolute genius
Take a moment to be in wonder with the power of the human voice. In the beginning . . .
Beautiful poetry
This scene alone was such an explicit depiction of broken they both were. Loved to the deepest recessess, yet unable to freely love another.
Ugh I love this poem
The way he goes right in. This gentleman is amazing.
ok incel
where are those series nowadays? :(
A masterpiece
2022...
Am I alone here in 2021?
No, I'm back for more
My favorite edition
🖤🖤🖤
I really wish that TH-cam and Showtime hadn't yanked all the clips that are longer than a minute and some change, you don't get the essense of the scenes with these short clips.
Farewell little scorpion
Does anyone know the music playing background? It's hauntingly beautiful
I was never going to go to Africa
@@richap7629 thanks a lot man ✨
What is the song being played as they converse with each other so deep?
I was never going to go to africa
“I wonder if he found it, his secret place with God?”
“…the poem tells me he did.”
😭 😭 😭
🥺
Im having a lot of trouble picturing him as Tom Bombadil, but i look forwrd to seeing how it goes
Eva green you make me soo blue in this scene...
Wonderful poem! (As an aside, its s02e05 not e04)
It's slightly different to the version I know, but I think John Clare tinkered with his verses a bit.
perhaps due to this he felt singular affinity with the outcasts and the unloved ones. The ugly animals, the broken things.
John clare is forgiven for all the murders in the series.
❤🤘
Isn't it said that God created man because he was lonely? If even God can get lonely, then well... Seems to me that loneliness is a requisite for self aware consciousness. Others did not spurn or abandon you, they were never yours to begin with. The difference lies in the illusion into which we flee, and in which we suffer the precariousness of the existential premise of a narcissist. It's cowardice in its most clarified form.
2020
😍😍😍
When I see these two together, I always think of the unlikely friendship between a Ravenclaw (Vanessa) and a Slytherin (Caliban).
Ray Singh interesting. why you think she is ravenclaw?
She's smart. And she's curious. Quintessentially Ravenclaw.
Ray Singh hermione was also smart and curious :) but agree. i think ravenclaw is about almost violent, selfharming curiousity
Ray Singh and why caliban - slytherin?
He's vengeful, cunning, sadistic, jealous, ambitious. A twisted Slytherin. Sort of like Snape. I actually see a lot of Snape in him. They're both tortured souls who live a sad existence. But deep inside, they only want love.