One of the best ways I improved my thinking greatly was to quit lying, even little white lies to save people feelings and such . It freed up so much of my mind no it having to remember who I told what.
The best way I found to teach my children to critically think is in a debate, to defend a belief they don't believe in. The other thing I taught them, is when given information to question the motive.
> The other thing I taught them, > is when given information to question the motive. I disagree. When given information, you should consider any logic or reasoning in the information, without regard for how it was presented, or the motivations of the presenter...because facts and logic should stand on their own. You should always try to find any truth in any idea, and try to falsify it as well.
@@KAZVorpal do both. i did, it served me well. and it is serving my kids well. because even though logic and reason may stand on their own, there may still be a motive from the other person. that's how crafty manipulators operate. politicians do that all the time with their "think of the children/poor/environment etc" propaganda. it sounds good, it sounds logical and it should be, but then you find out they're just funneling more money to their own coffers in the form of higher taxes that were supposed to fix the problem.....the problem is not fixed and now your taxes have gone up. QUESTION MOTIVES.
I’m an alcoholic who’s spent the last 7 months of my life sober thanks to God, AA, and Jordan. I’m 40 now and thats the longest stretch of sobriety I’ve had since my mid 20’s. I hope I have the opportunity to thank you in person some day Jordan. Since I’ve been sober I’ve needed to hear a lot of what you have to say. Re-programing my thinking and approaches to people. Fighting my deeply selfish nature and seriously flawed thinking has been freeing, healing, and necessary. Restorative I think you might say. Talking things out with my sponsor is where many of my flawed thoughts go to die and where I’ve learned some correct, or perhaps proper thinking. You are such a gift Jordan.
I am SO happy for you! You hit on the triple threat- but I would make it a quadruple threat and include YOU because you are making it happen!! Awesome work-keep at it.
The best way to exercise Critical Thinking for me so far has been to never commit to a side, be it social or political as well as to listen to everybody. Listening to both parties should always be a must no matter what before you form an opinion on X matter. It also enriches your knowledge on the topic you are researching/arguing. I think in the first stages of Critical Thinking you should keep your ears and eyes open and your mouth closed. Variety and detachment.
Solomon said the same thing! Proverbs 18:13 He actually speaks a lot about the wise one keeping his mouth shut and listening over the foolish that talks too much
Three-year olds are pretty good at critical thinking. When you tell them some fact or anecdote they respond with "Why?" It doesn't really matter what reason you give them, they just probe deeper, "Why?" If you want to be better at critical thinking, be more like a three-year old.
Children use the perpetual "why" not to learn or to think critically, but to pick at a fundamental flaw in causal thinking. There is no explanation from first principles (outside of mathematics and pure logic). So the answer to any real-world "why?" question can only be a crude & fallible attempt to find a preceding causal event; then that preceding causal event creates a new question of causality. It's similar to Aquinas' 'prime mover' argument and it really doesn't work. It's an attempt to address the itch that cannot be scratched (curiousity). We should seek to be as curious as a 3yr old, but they are NOT a model of critical thought.
And the way to make your child keep asking why during their whole life is to answer. Try to answer every question to the best of your ability and they keep being curious and they want to learn and understand why.
I didn't realize how inextricably intertwined both thinking and writing were until Jordan kept emphasizing it, despite it being seemingly obvious at face value. That's something that educators need to reinforce. Also, there are law schools that will teach using the Socratic method of asking questions to stimulate thought. I think this type of pedagogy should be employed in other disciplines as well because it's a lot more useful than passively listening to a lecture.
@@gilthunder1737 Reading and writing more can help. Also, I would seek out new ways to say things by looking up synonyms and antonyms, then apply thing them to your writing and speaking.
@@lamontcranston3177 you think combating addiction is a small thing and leaves nothing to teach? Separate from his already extensive resume do you really think the words you typed are the words of an intelligent adult?
I am a high school Spanish teacher. I use writing - basic 5 paragraph essay to retell stories the kids read to prepare for retelling the stories orally. But this year my administration told me only multiple choice tests. Further I am the only world language teacher who sees value in the writing process. We were also told to use the same tests and teach in the same way as the other teachers. The other teachers don’t want to grade essays let alone teach kids how to write them. I am leaving.
1:20 thinking allows our thoughts to die rather than having our actions kill us. Plan out something then look for the hazards before you take action. 4:00 the quality of our thoughts depends on the ability to speak out minds.
THIS! Depersonalization when discussing/debating ideas is a good way to be more aware of your thinking process and the nature of whatever ideas arise in your mind at a giving time. It really makes a difference
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I was wondering how best to acknowledge this in words. It is easy to notice when someone thinks their thoughts are them and defends them like a personal attack. Mindfulness explained like that makes sense, cheers.
@@smokingcrab2290Hello friend. There is this book called The Power of Now, by Eckhart Tolle. If you ever get the chance to read it please do so, you will not regret it :)
Listening to Dr. Peterson is like listening to a superb classical symphony. I close my eyes and pleasure my mind by listening to the intellectual splendor of his words. It is perfection. It is divine. It is uplifting.
@@The_Lord_has_it But religion consists of a creed of beliefs. It sustains itself on faith, not facts. Hence why "believing" and following X tenets (without questioning them) are rewarded by going to Heaven.
Our personality is structured by our thought process, and when an individual says they "don't know who they are", i think the more accurate question would be "where they are" in their thought process cause some times you wander to a thinking process you have never encountered before or may have had a belief that you were good with a certain way of thinking.
Jordan B. Peterson is the dad I never had, the mother, the brother and the friend, he is able to understand and articulate our inner demons better than anybody else, what a precious and brilliant mind, huge respect for him 🙏🏼
I have multiple notebooks I use for different personal writing projects. This video has reminded me that I want to be in those notebooks regularly. It’s tough when I work 70hrs/wk with a constantly changing schedule and run a household, but damn if it isn’t important! Thank you as always, Dr. Peterson!
I would love to see Dr. Peterson do a segment called “Ask Dr.P” where anyone can come with any psychological problem and he applies his methodology and research in a podcast based answer form. The questions could be filtered and chosen through an email system where anyone is able to send a message but only the most pertinent and frequent questions are the ones chosen by the JBP team.
Critical thinking is simple, but straining. All you have to do is take a statement and imagine a world where it’s true and a world where it’s false. Then, honestly work to find and itemize the essential differences between each of those two worlds and the real world. That’s it. Our personalities automatically choose one comparison automatically, so there’s no trouble there. The hard part is imaging a world where the opposite is true so that could also be compared with the real world (a precondition to what you really want - the two comparisons themselves could be compared). People who are incapable of doing that mental rehearsal or simulation on certain issues are being held emotionally hostage to their biases on those issues and as a result, invariably confirm their biases. Some people almost entirely confirm their biases on all issues and end up grooming themselves into a closed worldview after a while. This acquired disability where emotions, feelings, and proclivities overwhelmingly replace reason is one the bases of totalitarianism.
I'm a year late here, but good god, THANK YOU. You summed it up amazingly: "...take a statement and imagine a world where it’s true and a world where it’s false."
1. Question the motive always for whatever you are receiving 2. Question what, how, why 3. How it affects you, it's connection to you 4. Connect ideas, see inter links, similarities between different domain of ideas 5. Describe, narrate what you are doing and seeing. 6. Go to the core point, try to see main theme, remove the fluff 7.
From watching the docu-film "What the Bleep Do We Know" a few years back, I learned to often become the observer of myself. This helps one gain an objective perspective, as much as is possible, on one's emotional reactions and on responses to others, to circumstances and helps somewhat disarm the thousands of random conscious thoughts going through our mind during all waking hours. From this observational perspective one can modify one's behavior so as to not waste energy on worry and on inconsequential thoughts and concerns thereby freeing one up to live more in the present moment...which ultimately leads to internal peace.
When I was in the Philosophy Department as a student we had papers which both professors and students would get together and present. You have to think through your ideas in order to reject stupid ideas and develop a more reasoned position. Wittgenstein said, Open the Door and then let intelligence in the room. In other words, say what you want to say and then decide whether an idea is stupid or not but in this current atmosphere you cannot open your mouth without being attacked. This is not open discourse and not a way of acting in a Critical Thinking. If you really want to learn Dr. Peterson more about Critical Thinking then Professors Ralph Johnson and Anthony Blair were leading thinkers in this area of Critical Thinking Theory. They wrote a book called Logical Self Defence (LSD) which was well received by all kinds of Critical Thinking Theorists. They were leaders in the world in this area.
Great video Jordan. I've been playing on Twitter for the last week and I am amazed at the lack of independent thinking and oftentimes, thinking at all.
I'm sure you know this already but yeah Twitter isn't the best place. I think as a society we need to empathize that Twitter is where the loudest and least thoughtful go to tweet "their" opinion, for the most part.
"Your ability to abstractly represent the world and then to generate avatars that can be defeated without you dying is dependent on your incorporation of a multitude of opinions, and that works to the degree that communication is actually free and you get access to as much thought as you can possibly manage." I, like many others, have been a child of the internet and grew up attempting to synthesize the many many different opinions that have been expressed freely over the years. Access and recommendation have been essential in continuing that growth and challenging our mindsets once they become entrenched. But once we get own ideas in order and make sense of the world as it truly is, we can attempt to make a contribution through re-expression of our hard won knowledge to other people. Having been deeply inspired by Jordan myself, I set out to create a picture of the human motivational structure as it relates to our most fundamental biological necessity; the need for resources. Why do people function the way they do and set certain priorities in their mind? What are the unique social resource mechanisms by which an individual can extract value for themselves? How do our investments in each of five unique survival strategies impact our degree of self reliance, satisfaction, and sense of meaning? In a series dissecting each these different mechanisms being used, I am attempting to describe the social resource structure that defines the modern world. Much of these categorizations have arisen out of Peterson's discussion of the struggle of "Being", and humanity's collective attempts to transcend the basic nuts and bolts of resource acquisition to survive. I would be forever grateful if anyone here wanted to take a look at the findings on my channel, including any maintainer of JBP channel who might see this - I think you would really find the content visually unique as well as philosophically engaging!
I haven't checked the videos out yet but I gave you a sub just based on what you wrote here. I like finding others that think in a similar way that I do. One thing I feel is always important to consider no matter how logical and reasonable you break things down, dont forget the emotional/spiritual element. That is essential to include as a variable and also a wild card as it can be as unpredictable as it is predictable. There is definitely something more to the nuts and bolts then what we can just simply observe.
@@Sleeping_Dreamer Agreed, without the spiritual element, there's no point to all of it. Dare to believe that your life has meaning and that it extends beyond what is visible on the service. I think its important to see the world for what it is but then find the strength to adapt to it and attempt to thrive, spiritually and physically. And much appreciated! Let me know what you think when you get the chance to take a look.
My appreciation for words is increasing by watching an old cat who has gone blind and deaf try to construct and retain mental maps of his environment. I can't even imagine how difficult it would be to think well without a vocabulary. To have words redefined would be even worse!
Hello, Dr. Peterson. I enjoyed this presentation very much. It explains the dumbing down that we are experiencing in society. Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
I was reading the classic fairytales to my son yesterday and thinking of this very idea in light of what Dr. Peterson has been saying about these canonical stories. The issue with many children’s cartoons and stories today is there’s no real danger, no death or suffering and no real consequence for good or evil actions. The canonical fairytales take about real life and bring home the wonder of reality and our dynamic story in it. Hope that makes sense. My son and I were Both mesmerized reading these stories together!
Jordan, I am a 50yr old straight white male and admire your way of speaking and explaining each of your topics. Times might be overwhelming but you are a great inspiration and rational guide to a lot of people men and I can bet women. Keep your self available for those who need it. I was born in 72 so you can understand the cultural and communicational changes i have seen over my time influenced by technology. I can only hope there is enough guidance in such an unregulated platform as the net that people continue the values that have got us this far. Keep up your good work. I live in a country that has a PM known as "Scomo" and an opposition leader known as "Elbow" Where have the values gone?
I will say 2 techniques from Ancient greeks and one from me, 1) ask difficult questions your self, for example what is logic what is thinking how do i improve what do i have to improve on my self etc, this force your brain to get into a logical course of thoughts to produce an answer also the answer will be really useful if u take action, if you ask your self what are your errors you can spot them and fix them, 2) observe how you think, this is a deeper meaning to "know thy self), know how you make thoughts opinions what are the errors etc, and my technique is to debate, debate really helped me but try to make it meaningful so you dont waste much time on
The timing of this video is crazy to me. Just today I was sitting in class writing about my ideas of critical thought in the notes app on my phone. I had gotten maybe essay worth, and in just doing that I developed my thoughts further. Now later at night I see this video was posted around the same time i was writing about something related to this conversation, interesting.
This man been helping me getting better in my life in crazy way for the last year I didn’t expect I will get better like that but I guess the biggest lie we been told “” it’s not easy “” Everything just depends on exactly how you look at it and for everyone else here to get advice you at the right place. Keep taking care of yourself 💜.
@@CONEHEADDK in the context of Dr Peterson and what he stands for and teaches...batter is better. Read the posters full post and watch the video before you comment
Meditate. Seriously. Having a rich inner spiritual dimension that both transcends yet involves the thinking mind is really important. If all you have is the mind, then all you see are Gordian knots and problems. Yes critical thinking and problem solving is important. But there’s a deeper part of you that is forever untouched by these things, is incredibly intelligent and actually wants to help here and be of service. But it’s not your intellect, even though the intellect can be recognized and employed by it. The meditation book Steps to Knowledge can really put an individual on the track to discovering this deeper intelligence and utilizing it in life. It’s not the only path that can orient one towards this intelligence, but it’s a powerful one.
TVF Luvall said, Thought is internalised speech but also emotion (positive|negative regarding separation) directing thought upon value - and thus consequential as mere spontaneous information.
Basically the ability to think is about understanding the mind painting a picture. To be able to think about what you think. Clearing it from preference and wishes.
Hey Mr. Peterson, just got the email that the event that I bought the tickets for your presentation at Cox Business Convention Center Tulsa Oklahoma got postponed, and hope you are doing okay. If I have to wait 10 years I will, you changed most of what I thought life was and re-directed it for the best. Thank you wish you the best.
Babies do not speak or have any real basis for any language. Do they not think? How about animals? Do they not think? Speech is the expression of thought, not the thought itself. You clearly have the ability to think what you want -- how could anybody stop it? But speech ain't so.
Amazingly lucid and unique string of thought. One Might even say original, and devoid of past influences. Jordan Peterson is a pioneer in original thought. Even if he does not believe that himself.
There's no such thing as original though, everything that we can say and do is already a property of the universe and is universal and the best way we can live our life is by aligning ourselves with this constant progressive universal truth that manifests itself once you start speaking, discovering, accepting and experiencing the truth. Go down the ways of falsehood and that manifests itself as various mental illnesses the worst of which are bpd and schizophrenia
One thing I find to be true over the years is that being smart is more about having different perspectives about the some subjects and exam which one of these perspective is more logical in the long run, that way you improve your thinking and overcome the flaws, and also if your think of it that way then someone had done so as well, probably before you did, so it’s best to exam that thoughts by putting yours in contrast to others
One thing to consider is personality types like with MBTI, this type of critical thinking comes natural to types like ENFP, INFP, INFJ etc. Especially being able to think in a wide range of multiple perspectives, sure other types can learn but it is much more difficult and some might not be able to at all. Jordan explains things very well and he takes very complex subjects and breaks them down simply to their core elements. That goes a long way to help others think in a similar way or at least be able to understand the concepts.
Gandhi taught , that the search for and application of truth , is our guide to living. Dr Peterson brings forth that speech allows bad thoughts to die rather than us. Bringing those two insights together is finding God, loves us , each and every one , wanting us to find him. A glimmer of joy, yes?
Is it just me or does Dr Peterson Seem to rly be in a groove /on a roll /picking up where he left off before he got sick and seem to be as sharp if not sharper than ever. I’m hyped appreciate y’all
Exactly, thoughts can become troubled… had to take a pause today due to depth of understanding that was so shocking to my system that is was causing physical stress. But knowledge is power. Just have to let it absorb and get roots.
The process Dr Peterson describe at the beginning of video explaining the fact that we create avatar of our self is it conscious work or unconscious process because I don’t think I’m doing it at all.
"Thought is internalized speech"... well, I can "think" music... and many have said music is a language, but here it is very direct. There are no words there, no idioms, but still every passage or even single note carries lots of meaning to me.
Intelligence is a brilliant tool for defeating "wordy" bullies. Muscle is useless when you have the upper-hand in conversation that is being steered towards trying to own you unexpectedly in front of a crowd. (These guys go out of their way to find vulnerability in individuals to comb their ego's all over you).
Once I was in an argument with someone at school talking about how he resorts to violence instead of using his words like an adult. He then immediately slapped me and it was so funny because everyone saw clear as day that he just proved my point. I didn't even swing back I was just dying laughing inside at the irony
In the past, debate/discussion often included thinking out loud. That opened further discussion and greater mutual understanding. And common ground was often reached because both sides were aware of, respectful of, and ultimately in the search for TRUTH. Now, if someone is going over their thoughts aloud they are attacked, ostracized, and labeled as the "other" and an enemy. It is the death of debate. It's interesting to think of where we went off track with this.
“A thought,once uttered, is untrue”.. well said… by someone else. Look it up. Some languages are yet to be invented to formulate, articulate, even internalize, deep thoughts more freely and truly. Be that the language of math, arts, or poetry, which is a language akin to arts. Not all thoughts can be articulated in words. It does not diminish their validity and usefulness. Thinking is generally more complicated than words most people can master. It does not mean one should not put efforts in expressing oneself. Strangely enough, the language of math is far better suited for critical thinking than “normal” language. In arts, it often amounts to mere gut feeling. And yet, some artists are unmistakably better articulators and thinkers than others. It is the ability to express what, once uttered, rings true, is tricky and should be valued. '
This is how I think: first of all, if I can’t find an answer for something, it’s because I don’t know enough about it; in which I enter the 4 squares of knowledge: what I know, what I don’t know, what I don’t know I don’t know and what I think I know but its just a miss conception. I think about possibilities with the pieces involved and start experimenting in my head, not exactly to see if it works, but because it’s usually a great way learn more about the situation. Anyway, having smart / hyper intellectuals next to you to ask them it’s pretty useful
SPEAKING TRUTH IS HOW WE BATTLE EVIL. TRUTH HOLDS THE EXPECTATIONS FOR WHAT WAS, WHAT IS AND WHAT WILL ALWAYS BE. YOU CAN DO NOTHING AGAINST THE TRUTH. LIES ONLY OBSCURE TRUTH, THEY CAN NOT AFFECT IT. TRUTH IS THE REAL AXIEM OF REAL FAITH. TRUTH PUT TO WORK
The conclusion , that many influential people has the view that all social actions are ultimately motivated by power struggles , can provide explanation to the left behavior and goals .
Going through the process to arrive at a truth arrived at long ago by another is not redundant. It's the difference between understanding and parroting.
It's listening to others ( face by face ) , without judgement. You can find out that people they are thinking one thing and speaking another. For me people are interesting, it's the only thing real.
The best way I found to improve critical thinking is to challenge my own views, either by questioning them or thinking of potential arguments against them.
Our minds are not just made of language. There's also inexplicit ideas. A dictionary can only define words using other words (infinite regress), but we know what they mean. Although yes, our knowledge is in conflict with each other. Consciously or unconsciously. How ideas evolve is best explained in the theory of Karl Popper, where criticism is one of the main pillars (the other is creativity).
Why do I need Critical Thinking? Critical Thinking is a process or skill of thinking critically. It is the ability to think rationally, to use good reasoning skills, and to question assumptions, especially when they are made by others. Critical Thinking is the ability to use logic and evidence to evaluate information. Critical thinking is an important skill for everyone in every profession. It is a skill that can be developed through practice and experience.
Are there any techniques or skills one could learn that would enable a person to speak as well as they can write? I have a terrible time speaking my mind but for obvious reasons, it is much easier to write out my thoughts or ideas.
Speak it out loud before you write it, like dictating, or just talk to yourself around the house, rehearsing things you'd like to say. Learning a second language greatly improved my ability to speak my mother tongue. If I couldn't find the words for what I wanted to say, I would have to paraphrase it until I found words.
Excuse me sir... Can you make a video on panic attack... Am having alot and also having counciling but they can't find the source or reason for my attacks.. it would be very helpful... I also had anxiety i hve seen your video and it's been very ton helpful.. so please if possible make one... I follow you and it really given my life a path being naive...
To think correctly, nothing should be taken for granted. This is not the case here. Without a proper definition of the terms we use, critical thinking is a circular process. To fruitfully discuss thinking, the first question we must answer is: "what is a thought?" Once thought is properly defined, many problems related to thinking will be answered.
But what happens when you critically examine your first claim "nothing should be taken for granted?" You would have to justify every assertion and define every term, right? There's a genuine truth-seeking spirit behind this ambition, but it is absurd when you think carefully about it. By "absurd," I mean it is impossible to fulfill, and therefore cannot be demanded for correct thinking. On the side of justification, if everything has to be justified, and nothing is perceived as self-evident, then nothing will ever be justified. This is why every science necessarily has its points of departure, first principles or axioms which cannot be certified by the science in question because they form its very foundation. On the side of definition, there must always be terms that are simply taken for granted or accepted as tacitly understood, e.g. "inside," "outside," and perhaps even "thought." If you reduce this last term, "thought," to an neuronal event, you let escape the essence of thoughts, which is their meaning. You cannot define what it is to be a thought, therefore, without defining meaning. But you cannot say what it means to mean. This, again, is an absurd and impossible to fulfill demand. To say what it means to mean (which is the more radical form of thinking the essence of thought), in order to avoid circularity, must involve something more in the saying (or the definition) than was already present in what is defined, but this something more, however, must necessarily mean something, and this means that meaning must be tacitly understood or taken for granted. This is perhaps the logical justification for the old saying, "in the beginning was the word." It is, in general, not good for us to have forgotten that all critical thought is nourished by something that can only be affirmed.
to encourage critical thinking , you must provide your audience a small portion of clue. but these clues or premises must be relevant or would guide the audience to the answer accurately.
you can kind of write out your thoughts and then analyze your own thinking. Possibly it is some new revelation or a way to reflect. I wrote this page of spewed thoughts to later look at. It made me see I have some challenges or confused thinking.
On the subject of free speech and critical thinking, as well as the subject of trans rights: I had my mind blown when I recently found and started watching Blaire White's videos on TH-cam (she's male to female trans). I'm a typical heterosexual guy, and after watching and listening to her I ended up feeling that I was so cocooned within my own narrow idea of what trans people believed that I was honestly blown away and impressed with her statements and perspectives because they mirrored mine to such a large degree. Due to that, and the fact I appreciate her to-the-point rebuttals and honesty, I quickly became a subscriber to her channel. It seems to me that she has become ostracized, to a degree, by part of the LGBTQ+ community (definitely by the more fringe groups) due to her strong objections and perspectives regarding the likes of: non-binary genders, the fact that she still considers herself as being biologically male (when some others don't), and her strong objections to teaching young kids about all of these things. These are perspectives and beliefs that I certainly share with her. I feel it would be interesting for you to have her on as a guest, as I feel it could lead to some engaging dialogue and discussion. More to the point of the video; I believe that free speech/dialogue/expression ("free speech") is the conduit through which we can safely negotiate possible torturous paths of differing ideology without the fear of culminating in a harmful abyss, and hopefully concluding with something beneficial for all parties. It's a process of negotiation and learning - without it our progress would become stagnant and stale very quickly due to a lack of acceptance of other perspectives, ideologies and beliefs. Removing, or restricting, free speech would be disastrous to humanity, and it would also be incredibly naive to do so. For me, "free speech" is not one-sided or linear - it involves listening, learning, and understanding the other party (or parties) involved in the conversation. It allows for the fluidity of being wrong and correcting yourself, and it even allows for the potential of all parties to meet a completely different conclusion compared to their initial individual beliefs or ideas. Freedom of speech is how real, valuable and positive progress is driven, and to dismiss that and restrict speech is very dictatorial and naive in my eye. Without freedom of speech, or thought, how can the likes of science continue? How can politics continue? How can general art continue? How can the most basic of conversations continue? if you state something, you need to be willing to accept the fact that it's possible most people may conclude your argument(s) to be wrong or inaccurate and disagree with you. The biggest factor for me is whether you can move on from it positively. Can you learn from the comments and ideas of others, or do you continue to reduce yourself into a narrow and arrogant scope of thought that you remain delusional or escaping the reality of the situation? There are people who we'd wish were not able to speak, or speak so loudly, due to their radical and extreme views, but - don't forget - without this freedom we would not be able to refute them in the first place. More importantly: without the freedom to discuss and refute, our societies would remain stagnant. Freedom of speech, to me, is the core basis from which everything stems - whether than be good or bad. We just need to take the good with the bad, as nothing is perfect - we are certainly not perfect beings!
Yes! A podcast between Blair and Jordan would be so interesting to hear. I love Blair and how opinionated and unapologetically herself she is. For me, she is the true representative of the trans community because at the end of the day, what Blair promotes is to see trans people as individuals who want a normal life in the body they feel the most comfortable with. It's not about imposing or demanding respect. It's about individuality and peace of mind. I really hope to see her in the channel one day 🖤
@@damfhokage4993 She seems open but believes what she believes, she's logical, knowledgeable, and respects reality. Plus, her personality is very fun and humorous at the same time! Her videos have taught me a few things, so I really respect her a lot. :)
I've really been enjoying the different guests you have had on your channel, Mr. Peterson. I would like to offer up the suggestion to interview Pierre Poilievre. I believe this would be illuminating for your viewers and Canadians.
The first, vital, step in thinking, is to define your terms. It's a shock to me that the most famous book about "Time" never tries to define what the writer means by "Time". You need to be familiar with the entirety of your grasp of the concepts you are dealing with, the words you are using, to begin the journey. I find I let my mind free float, but around an idea, and after a while, clarifications come to mind, which I use focused logic to dissect and link to other related concepts. It's all about making links and seeing patterns.
It’s insane that we are having to hanger this conversation! I think that people hand become mentally lazy. “Too busy” too overwhelmed to stop and actually confront what’s happening around them. The other issue, is that there is SOOO much other stimulation to instantly run to..to avoid thinking about it all. It’s terrifying 😀🥰👊🏝🇦🇺
It's interesting how the people who listen and think along with Jordan Peterson are keeping their heads, while those who see and think what they're told from the legacy media are losing theirs.
“We think the thoughts of dead philosophers”. I believe it was Aristotle who theorized that people who get Ideas were people who had an ability of access to a plain of ideas and they could stick their minds up there and essentially see the idea in plain sight. After reading my stroke of insight by Jill bolte Taylor, I’ve come to realize that it’s more likely the left brain that assembles conceptual parts together and the combination of parts into reasonably feasible ideas is just somewhat limited and obvious. I use to wonder why I would come up with an idea that already exists when I was certain I hadn’t been exposed to it. There’s just a limited number of combination of pieces and the probability that you will assemble something together in similar way that someone else did has a higher probability then you would think.
I wish more than anything in my theater of imagination that someone like Jordan Peterson would ask me about Aristotle's syllogism, how this process works using major and minor premises, and finally a conclusion that speaks to our androgynous totality? This process involves principle which is innately invisible, and indivisible.
This is a bit off point but; As a visual artist myself, I find we think in visuals and images. It is so obvious that we tend to overlook it. If I say elephant, then you just saw one. Not the same one as I see, but never the less it is a visual thought. I believe we use words to communicate much of this theatre that constantly plays out in our minds and we communicate these experiences using what words we have at out disposal, but I don't think a person with a rich vocabulary has any more insight or wisdom than a man who cannot speak at all, just the ability to communicate it more accurately.
Good comment. Words are quite limiting when trying to express or explain something. Like trying to tell a space alien what the flavour of a strawberry is....
The only way to think critically is to be emotionally detached. As soon as you have an emotional investment in one side being right, then all of the cognitive biases come out in full force. In today's political spectrum, if you are not a centrist, you probably aren't a critical thinker; as there is no underlying logical consistency in either left-wing or right-wing thought; the coherence is only by the homogenizing effect of emotional attachment to group identity, and conformity.
To add on though, I think you can be genuinely leftwing or rightwing and be coherent, but the issue arises from what you said; conformity. A lot of modern leftwing and rightwing "positions" contradict themselves because people go along with their "side" and then rationalize their positions later. That's horrible. Also, if someone is happy about every position they take, that's a red flag. Principles are usually proven by support of something despite personally disliking it.
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One of the best ways I improved my thinking greatly was to quit lying, even little white lies to save people feelings and such . It freed up so much of my mind no it having to remember who I told what.
Have you read Radical Honesty ? ,the book discusses about this in detail
Looking up "Radical Honesty" right now..
Quitting Lying is the start line. I should always keep this in mind. Thanks
So I'm guessing if you could go back or in the future, you wouldn't or won't tell your kids Santa Claus, Easter Bunny and Jesus exist?
another bonus........people avoid you due ro your unnecessary obnoxiousness
The best way I found to teach my children to critically think is in a debate, to defend a belief they don't believe in.
The other thing I taught them, is when given information to question the motive.
That's exactly what my mother did and I'm very grateful for it.
@@Sourpusscandy Agree ,that answers 99% of motives 😁
> The other thing I taught them,
> is when given information to question the motive.
I disagree. When given information, you should consider any logic or reasoning in the information, without regard for how it was presented, or the motivations of the presenter...because facts and logic should stand on their own.
You should always try to find any truth in any idea, and try to falsify it as well.
@@KAZVorpal do both. i did, it served me well. and it is serving my kids well. because even though logic and reason may stand on their own, there may still be a motive from the other person. that's how crafty manipulators operate. politicians do that all the time with their "think of the children/poor/environment etc" propaganda. it sounds good, it sounds logical and it should be, but then you find out they're just funneling more money to their own coffers in the form of higher taxes that were supposed to fix the problem.....the problem is not fixed and now your taxes have gone up.
QUESTION MOTIVES.
thats actually smart af
I’m an alcoholic who’s spent the last 7 months of my life sober thanks to God, AA, and Jordan. I’m 40 now and thats the longest stretch of sobriety I’ve had since my mid 20’s. I hope I have the opportunity to thank you in person some day Jordan. Since I’ve been sober I’ve needed to hear a lot of what you have to say. Re-programing my thinking and approaches to people. Fighting my deeply selfish nature and seriously flawed thinking has been freeing, healing, and necessary. Restorative I think you might say. Talking things out with my sponsor is where many of my flawed thoughts go to die and where I’ve learned some correct, or perhaps proper thinking. You are such a gift Jordan.
I am SO happy for you! You hit on the triple threat- but I would make it a quadruple threat and include YOU because you are making it happen!! Awesome work-keep at it.
Congratulations on your sobriety and finding god! I hope all is well
God bless
Putting my thoughts in writing, and then reading it aloud to myself, is invaluable.
The best way to exercise Critical Thinking for me so far has been to never commit to a side, be it social or political as well as to listen to everybody. Listening to both parties should always be a must no matter what before you form an opinion on X matter. It also enriches your knowledge on the topic you are researching/arguing. I think in the first stages of Critical Thinking you should keep your ears and eyes open and your mouth closed.
Variety and detachment.
Variety & detachment. That’s very insightful, thank you.
You have already chosen a side by not choosing.
@@resiliencewithin It's not about choosing per se but commiting. Though now that I think about it, choosing not to choose is a good oxymoron 😅
Well said!
Solomon said the same thing!
Proverbs 18:13
He actually speaks a lot about the wise one keeping his mouth shut and listening over the foolish that talks too much
Three-year olds are pretty good at critical thinking. When you tell them some fact or anecdote they respond with "Why?" It doesn't really matter what reason you give them, they just probe deeper, "Why?" If you want to be better at critical thinking, be more like a three-year old.
I drove my mother crazy with my constant refrain of "But why?" as a child. 🙂
Children use the perpetual "why" not to learn or to think critically, but to pick at a fundamental flaw in causal thinking. There is no explanation from first principles (outside of mathematics and pure logic). So the answer to any real-world "why?" question can only be a crude & fallible attempt to find a preceding causal event; then that preceding causal event creates a new question of causality. It's similar to Aquinas' 'prime mover' argument and it really doesn't work. It's an attempt to address the itch that cannot be scratched (curiousity).
We should seek to be as curious as a 3yr old, but they are NOT a model of critical thought.
Why?
And the way to make your child keep asking why during their whole life is to answer. Try to answer every question to the best of your ability and they keep being curious and they want to learn and understand why.
I read somewhere that the average 4 year old asks 76 questions a day. My youngest son asked at least double that.
I didn't realize how inextricably intertwined both thinking and writing were until Jordan kept emphasizing it, despite it being seemingly obvious at face value. That's something that educators need to reinforce. Also, there are law schools that will teach using the Socratic method of asking questions to stimulate thought. I think this type of pedagogy should be employed in other disciplines as well because it's a lot more useful than passively listening to a lecture.
I'm in University right now and I've never heard of a Socratic method of asking questions 🤯 Thank you for mentioning it, I'll look it up!
Bro ur vocabulary is amazing , gimme some tips plsssdd
@@gilthunder1737 Reading and writing more can help. Also, I would seek out new ways to say things by looking up synonyms and antonyms, then apply thing them to your writing and speaking.
@@lamontcranston3177 you think combating addiction is a small thing and leaves nothing to teach? Separate from his already extensive resume do you really think the words you typed are the words of an intelligent adult?
I am a high school Spanish teacher. I use writing - basic 5 paragraph essay to retell stories the kids read to prepare for retelling the stories orally. But this year my administration told me only multiple choice tests. Further I am the only world language teacher who sees value in the writing process. We were also told to use the same tests and teach in the same way as the other teachers. The other teachers don’t want to grade essays let alone teach kids how to write them. I am leaving.
1:20 thinking allows our thoughts to die rather than having our actions kill us. Plan out something then look for the hazards before you take action. 4:00 the quality of our thoughts depends on the ability to speak out minds.
Mindfulness is the key. Being able to observe your thoughts and know they aren't you.
THIS! Depersonalization when discussing/debating ideas is a good way to be more aware of your thinking process and the nature of whatever ideas arise in your mind at a giving time. It really makes a difference
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I was wondering how best to acknowledge this in words. It is easy to notice when someone thinks their thoughts are them and defends them like a personal attack. Mindfulness explained like that makes sense, cheers.
They are you though. They come from you. It's just you have to reign them in. Take every thought captive.
@@smokingcrab2290Hello friend. There is this book called The Power of Now, by Eckhart Tolle. If you ever get the chance to read it please do so, you will not regret it :)
Listening to Dr. Peterson is like listening to a superb classical symphony. I close my eyes and pleasure my mind by listening to the intellectual splendor of his words. It is perfection. It is divine. It is uplifting.
"if you are merely repeating an accepted script, then to what extent can you say that youre an individual at all". exactly
Now apply that to his religious views
@@blurglide and voila! His views were arrived at how? By CRITICAL THINKING. God bless
@@The_Lord_has_it Critical *thinking* and religious *beliefs* do not hold hands... do they? 🤔
@@damfhokage4993 Every bit. Just as religion and science aren't exclusive. They are inclusive as per the preponderance if evidence.
@@The_Lord_has_it But religion consists of a creed of beliefs. It sustains itself on faith, not facts. Hence why "believing" and following X tenets (without questioning them) are rewarded by going to Heaven.
Our personality is structured by our thought process, and when an individual says they "don't know who they are", i think the more accurate question would be "where they are" in their thought process cause some times you wander to a thinking process you have never encountered before or may have had a belief that you were good with a certain way of thinking.
Jordan B. Peterson is the dad I never had, the mother, the brother and the friend, he is able to understand and articulate our inner demons better than anybody else, what a precious and brilliant mind, huge respect for him 🙏🏼
You arelooking better, Jordan. Very glad to see this. The world is better with you around. Thank you...
I have multiple notebooks I use for different personal writing projects. This video has reminded me that I want to be in those notebooks regularly. It’s tough when I work 70hrs/wk with a constantly changing schedule and run a household, but damn if it isn’t important!
Thank you as always, Dr. Peterson!
I would love to see Dr. Peterson do a segment called “Ask Dr.P” where anyone can come with any psychological problem and he applies his methodology and research in a podcast based answer form. The questions could be filtered and chosen through an email system where anyone is able to send a message but only the most pertinent and frequent questions are the ones chosen by the JBP team.
You'd probably have to pay to ask questions through superchat
Yes that’s a grand idea!! He use to do Q & A sessions on TH-cam frequently
I think you can do that if you pay a subscription but i dont know where x)
Or....look through most of his videos and probably find your answers
You should probably email this suggestion to him
Critical thinking is simple, but straining. All you have to do is take a statement and imagine a world where it’s true and a world where it’s false. Then, honestly work to find and itemize the essential differences between each of those two worlds and the real world. That’s it. Our personalities automatically choose one comparison automatically, so there’s no trouble there. The hard part is imaging a world where the opposite is true so that could also be compared with the real world (a precondition to what you really want - the two comparisons themselves could be compared). People who are incapable of doing that mental rehearsal or simulation on certain issues are being held emotionally hostage to their biases on those issues and as a result, invariably confirm their biases. Some people almost entirely confirm their biases on all issues and end up grooming themselves into a closed worldview after a while. This acquired disability where emotions, feelings, and proclivities overwhelmingly replace reason is one the bases of totalitarianism.
I'm a year late here, but good god, THANK YOU. You summed it up amazingly: "...take a statement and imagine a world where it’s true and a world where it’s false."
Framed perfectly
1. Question the motive always for whatever you are receiving
2. Question what, how, why
3. How it affects you, it's connection to you
4. Connect ideas, see inter links, similarities between different domain of ideas
5. Describe, narrate what you are doing and seeing.
6. Go to the core point, try to see main theme, remove the fluff
7.
From watching the docu-film "What the Bleep Do We Know" a few years back, I learned to often become the observer of myself. This helps one gain an objective perspective, as much as is possible, on one's emotional reactions and on responses to others, to circumstances and helps somewhat disarm the thousands of random conscious thoughts going through our mind during all waking hours. From this observational perspective one can modify one's behavior so as to not waste energy on worry and on inconsequential thoughts and concerns thereby freeing one up to live more in the present moment...which ultimately leads to internal peace.
When I was in the Philosophy Department as a student we had papers which both professors and students would get together and present. You have to think through your ideas in order to reject stupid ideas and develop a more reasoned position. Wittgenstein said, Open the Door and then let intelligence in the room. In other words, say what you want to say and then decide whether an idea is stupid or not but in this current atmosphere you cannot open your mouth without being attacked. This is not open discourse and not a way of acting in a Critical Thinking. If you really want to learn Dr. Peterson more about Critical Thinking then Professors Ralph Johnson and Anthony Blair were leading thinkers in this area of Critical Thinking Theory. They wrote a book called Logical Self Defence (LSD) which was well received by all kinds of Critical Thinking Theorists. They were leaders in the world in this area.
Thanks for the reference of the book. I found it
Great video Jordan. I've been playing on Twitter for the last week and I am amazed at the lack of independent thinking and oftentimes, thinking at all.
I'm sure you know this already but yeah Twitter isn't the best place. I think as a society we need to empathize that Twitter is where the loudest and least thoughtful go to tweet "their" opinion, for the most part.
@@Shark-hn4mv Actually I think that Tik Tok is far worse. Kind of like the asshole of society.
"Your ability to abstractly represent the world and then to generate avatars that can be defeated without you dying is dependent on your incorporation of a multitude of opinions, and that works to the degree that communication is actually free and you get access to as much thought as you can possibly manage."
I, like many others, have been a child of the internet and grew up attempting to synthesize the many many different opinions that have been expressed freely over the years. Access and recommendation have been essential in continuing that growth and challenging our mindsets once they become entrenched. But once we get own ideas in order and make sense of the world as it truly is, we can attempt to make a contribution through re-expression of our hard won knowledge to other people.
Having been deeply inspired by Jordan myself, I set out to create a picture of the human motivational structure as it relates to our most fundamental biological necessity; the need for resources. Why do people function the way they do and set certain priorities in their mind? What are the unique social resource mechanisms by which an individual can extract value for themselves? How do our investments in each of five unique survival strategies impact our degree of self reliance, satisfaction, and sense of meaning? In a series dissecting each these different mechanisms being used, I am attempting to describe the social resource structure that defines the modern world. Much of these categorizations have arisen out of Peterson's discussion of the struggle of "Being", and humanity's collective attempts to transcend the basic nuts and bolts of resource acquisition to survive.
I would be forever grateful if anyone here wanted to take a look at the findings on my channel, including any maintainer of JBP channel who might see this - I think you would really find the content visually unique as well as philosophically engaging!
I haven't checked the videos out yet but I gave you a sub just based on what you wrote here. I like finding others that think in a similar way that I do.
One thing I feel is always important to consider no matter how logical and reasonable you break things down, dont forget the emotional/spiritual element. That is essential to include as a variable and also a wild card as it can be as unpredictable as it is predictable.
There is definitely something more to the nuts and bolts then what we can just simply observe.
@@Sleeping_Dreamer Agreed, without the spiritual element, there's no point to all of it. Dare to believe that your life has meaning and that it extends beyond what is visible on the service. I think its important to see the world for what it is but then find the strength to adapt to it and attempt to thrive, spiritually and physically. And much appreciated! Let me know what you think when you get the chance to take a look.
THANK GOD FOR JORDAN PETERSON !
My appreciation for words is increasing by watching an old cat who has gone blind and deaf try to construct and retain mental maps of his environment. I can't even imagine how difficult it would be to think well without a vocabulary. To have words redefined would be even worse!
Hello, Dr. Peterson. I enjoyed this presentation very much. It explains the dumbing down that we are experiencing in society. Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
I was reading the classic fairytales to my son yesterday and thinking of this very idea in light of what Dr. Peterson has been saying about these canonical stories. The issue with many children’s cartoons and stories today is there’s no real danger, no death or suffering and no real consequence for good or evil actions. The canonical fairytales take about real life and bring home the wonder of reality and our dynamic story in it. Hope that makes sense. My son and I were Both mesmerized reading these stories together!
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Jordan, I am a 50yr old straight white male and admire your way of speaking and explaining each of your topics. Times might be overwhelming but you are a great inspiration and rational guide to a lot of people men and I can bet women. Keep your self available for those who need it. I was born in 72 so you can understand the cultural and communicational changes i have seen over my time influenced by technology. I can only hope there is enough guidance in such an unregulated platform as the net that people continue the values that have got us this far. Keep up your good work. I live in a country that has a PM known as "Scomo" and an opposition leader known as "Elbow" Where have the values gone?
I will say 2 techniques from Ancient greeks and one from me, 1) ask difficult questions your self, for example what is logic what is thinking how do i improve what do i have to improve on my self etc, this force your brain to get into a logical course of thoughts to produce an answer also the answer will be really useful if u take action, if you ask your self what are your errors you can spot them and fix them, 2) observe how you think, this is a deeper meaning to "know thy self), know how you make thoughts opinions what are the errors etc, and my technique is to debate, debate really helped me but try to make it meaningful so you dont waste much time on
The timing of this video is crazy to me. Just today I was sitting in class writing about my ideas of critical thought in the notes app on my phone. I had gotten maybe essay worth, and in just doing that I developed my thoughts further. Now later at night I see this video was posted around the same time i was writing about something related to this conversation, interesting.
@@Jonas-gl9ke hmm… interesting
The title is VERY misleading as I was expecting to see an exercise on improving critical thinking, but I enjoyed the video anyway.
This man been helping me getting better in my life in crazy way for the last year I didn’t expect I will get better like that but I guess the biggest lie we been told “” it’s not easy “”
Everything just depends on exactly how you look at it and for everyone else here to get advice you at the right place. Keep taking care of yourself 💜.
*better
@@songluannguyen4529 troll. we know what he meant and what he was getting across and the spelling is what you took away?
@@superamario6464 Well, to be fair, it makes quite some difference. Plus he probably took away more than just the spelling, who knows...
@@CONEHEADDK in the context of Dr Peterson and what he stands for and teaches...batter is better.
Read the posters full post and watch the video before you comment
@@CONEHEADDK thank you. This has been informative.
Thinking allows our thoughts to die instead of us.
That hit me!
Meditate. Seriously. Having a rich inner spiritual dimension that both transcends yet involves the thinking mind is really important. If all you have is the mind, then all you see are Gordian knots and problems. Yes critical thinking and problem solving is important. But there’s a deeper part of you that is forever untouched by these things, is incredibly intelligent and actually wants to help here and be of service. But it’s not your intellect, even though the intellect can be recognized and employed by it. The meditation book Steps to Knowledge can really put an individual on the track to discovering this deeper intelligence and utilizing it in life. It’s not the only path that can orient one towards this intelligence, but it’s a powerful one.
TVF Luvall said, Thought is internalised speech but also emotion (positive|negative regarding separation) directing thought upon value - and thus consequential as mere spontaneous information.
Basically the ability to think is about understanding the mind painting a picture. To be able to think about what you think. Clearing it from preference and wishes.
Hey Mr. Peterson, just got the email that the event that I bought the tickets for your presentation at Cox Business Convention Center Tulsa Oklahoma got postponed, and hope you are doing okay. If I have to wait 10 years I will, you changed most of what I thought life was and re-directed it for the best. Thank you wish you the best.
Thought is speech. I once discovered sub harmonics as part of thought. That some people actually vocalize thoughts at extreme low volume.
Babies do not speak or have any real basis for any language. Do they not think? How about animals? Do they not think? Speech is the expression of thought, not the thought itself. You clearly have the ability to think what you want -- how could anybody stop it? But speech ain't so.
No it is not.
This man saved my life.
But... you dead bruh
Amazingly lucid and unique string of thought. One Might even say original, and devoid of past influences. Jordan Peterson is a pioneer in original thought. Even if he does not believe that himself.
There's no such thing as original though, everything that we can say and do is already a property of the universe and is universal and the best way we can live our life is by aligning ourselves with this constant progressive universal truth that manifests itself once you start speaking, discovering, accepting and experiencing the truth.
Go down the ways of falsehood and that manifests itself as various mental illnesses the worst of which are bpd and schizophrenia
One thing I find to be true over the years is that being smart is more about having different perspectives about the some subjects and exam which one of these perspective is more logical in the long run, that way you improve your thinking and overcome the flaws, and also if your think of it that way then someone had done so as well, probably before you did, so it’s best to exam that thoughts by putting yours in contrast to others
One thing to consider is personality types like with MBTI, this type of critical thinking comes natural to types like ENFP, INFP, INFJ etc. Especially being able to think in a wide range of multiple perspectives, sure other types can learn but it is much more difficult and some might not be able to at all.
Jordan explains things very well and he takes very complex subjects and breaks them down simply to their core elements. That goes a long way to help others think in a similar way or at least be able to understand the concepts.
I think this man is a SPY. He knows so much about everything that my mind doesn't even care to think.
Gandhi taught , that the search for and application of truth , is our guide to living. Dr Peterson brings forth that speech allows bad thoughts to die rather than us. Bringing those two insights together is finding God, loves us , each and every one , wanting us to find him. A glimmer of joy, yes?
Is it just me or does Dr Peterson Seem to rly be in a groove /on a roll /picking up where he left off before he got sick and seem to be as sharp if not sharper than ever. I’m hyped appreciate y’all
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I used to think I was so smart when I was a teenager, I'm 24 Its like I'm realizing how dumb I am all at once, god I have so much to learn
you ain't alone
Exactly, thoughts can become troubled… had to take a pause today due to depth of understanding that was so shocking to my system that is was causing physical stress. But knowledge is power. Just have to let it absorb and get roots.
The process Dr Peterson describe at the beginning of video explaining the fact that we create avatar of our self is it conscious work or unconscious process because I don’t think I’m doing it at all.
"Thought is internalized speech"... well, I can "think" music... and many have said music is a language, but here it is very direct. There are no words there, no idioms, but still every passage or even single note carries lots of meaning to me.
Intelligence is a brilliant tool for defeating "wordy" bullies.
Muscle is useless when you have the upper-hand in conversation that is being steered towards trying to own you unexpectedly in front of a crowd. (These guys go out of their way to find vulnerability in individuals to comb their ego's all over you).
Once I was in an argument with someone at school talking about how he resorts to violence instead of using his words like an adult. He then immediately slapped me and it was so funny because everyone saw clear as day that he just proved my point. I didn't even swing back I was just dying laughing inside at the irony
@@cannapurp2833 Violence is a last resort, when all else fails, but i wont dare say its useless, thats why the U.S has the 2nd amendment after the 1st
@@als.4939 Of course but this was during a civil discussion lol
In the past, debate/discussion often included thinking out loud. That opened further discussion and greater mutual understanding. And common ground was often reached because both sides were aware of, respectful of, and ultimately in the search for TRUTH. Now, if someone is going over their thoughts aloud they are attacked, ostracized, and labeled as the "other" and an enemy. It is the death of debate.
It's interesting to think of where we went off track with this.
@@ss-pw4en Agreed. Sadly. And to express that even is to be labeled an old curmudgeon. But maybe if the shoe fits, etc.
Astonishing level of conversation!
“A thought,once uttered, is untrue”.. well said… by someone else. Look it up. Some languages are yet to be invented to formulate, articulate, even internalize, deep thoughts more freely and truly. Be that the language of math, arts, or poetry, which is a language akin to arts. Not all thoughts can be articulated in words. It does not diminish their validity and usefulness. Thinking is generally more complicated than words most people can master. It does not mean one should not put efforts in expressing oneself. Strangely enough, the language of math is far better suited for critical thinking than “normal” language. In arts, it often amounts to mere gut feeling. And yet, some artists are unmistakably better articulators and thinkers than others. It is the ability to express what, once uttered, rings true, is tricky and should be valued. '
Cultivate a courageous mind.
The lack of courage prevents thinking and progress, arrests development.
Its hard to talk about critical thinking when world is lacking sense of discernment.
Love and light🌎
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This is how I think: first of all, if I can’t find an answer for something, it’s because I don’t know enough about it; in which I enter the 4 squares of knowledge: what I know, what I don’t know, what I don’t know I don’t know and what I think I know but its just a miss conception. I think about possibilities with the pieces involved and start experimenting in my head, not exactly to see if it works, but because it’s usually a great way learn more about the situation. Anyway, having smart / hyper intellectuals next to you to ask them it’s pretty useful
This may be the most important 10 minutes of video I have seen.
I will watch it 10 times before I can digest all of it. Even then maybe not
Jordan goes so deep.. If you ban free speech, you remove the opportunity to intellectually grow stronger & wiser..
Bravo..
SPEAKING TRUTH IS HOW WE BATTLE EVIL. TRUTH HOLDS THE EXPECTATIONS FOR WHAT WAS, WHAT IS AND WHAT WILL ALWAYS BE.
YOU CAN DO NOTHING AGAINST THE TRUTH.
LIES ONLY OBSCURE TRUTH, THEY CAN NOT AFFECT IT.
TRUTH IS THE REAL AXIEM OF REAL FAITH.
TRUTH PUT TO WORK
The conclusion , that many influential people has the view that all social actions are ultimately motivated by power struggles , can provide explanation to the left behavior and goals .
Going through the process to arrive at a truth arrived at long ago by another is not redundant. It's the difference between understanding and parroting.
It's listening to others ( face by face ) , without judgement.
You can find out that people they are thinking one thing and speaking another.
For me people are interesting, it's the only thing real.
The best way I found to improve critical thinking is to challenge my own views, either by questioning them or thinking of potential arguments against them.
Yeah, I literally cannot take a position without thinking about counter arguments or how it comes off to those who disagree and/or are neutral.
Thank you so much for your videos Dr Peterson! Through them I have learned to constantly go after my goals with everything I have. Thank you!
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Our minds are not just made of language. There's also inexplicit ideas. A dictionary can only define words using other words (infinite regress), but we know what they mean. Although yes, our knowledge is in conflict with each other. Consciously or unconsciously. How ideas evolve is best explained in the theory of Karl Popper, where criticism is one of the main pillars (the other is creativity).
Very very good topic and thanks for talking about things people these days don’t want to hear about
Make me smarter Jordan!🎉
Only you can make yourself smarter
Why do I need Critical Thinking?
Critical Thinking is a process or skill of thinking critically. It is the ability to think rationally, to use good reasoning skills, and to question assumptions, especially when they are made by others. Critical Thinking is the ability to use logic and evidence to evaluate information.
Critical thinking is an important skill for everyone in every profession. It is a skill that can be developed through practice and experience.
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Are there any techniques or skills one could learn that would enable a person to speak as well as they can write? I have a terrible time speaking my mind but for obvious reasons, it is much easier to write out my thoughts or ideas.
Speak it out loud before you write it, like dictating, or just talk to yourself around the house, rehearsing things you'd like to say.
Learning a second language greatly improved my ability to speak my mother tongue. If I couldn't find the words for what I wanted to say, I would have to paraphrase it until I found words.
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To think correctly, nothing should be taken for granted. This is not the case here. Without a proper definition of the terms we use, critical thinking is a circular process. To fruitfully discuss thinking, the first question we must answer is: "what is a thought?" Once thought is properly defined, many problems related to thinking will be answered.
But what happens when you critically examine your first claim "nothing should be taken for granted?" You would have to justify every assertion and define every term, right? There's a genuine truth-seeking spirit behind this ambition, but it is absurd when you think carefully about it. By "absurd," I mean it is impossible to fulfill, and therefore cannot be demanded for correct thinking. On the side of justification, if everything has to be justified, and nothing is perceived as self-evident, then nothing will ever be justified. This is why every science necessarily has its points of departure, first principles or axioms which cannot be certified by the science in question because they form its very foundation. On the side of definition, there must always be terms that are simply taken for granted or accepted as tacitly understood, e.g. "inside," "outside," and perhaps even "thought." If you reduce this last term, "thought," to an neuronal event, you let escape the essence of thoughts, which is their meaning. You cannot define what it is to be a thought, therefore, without defining meaning. But you cannot say what it means to mean. This, again, is an absurd and impossible to fulfill demand. To say what it means to mean (which is the more radical form of thinking the essence of thought), in order to avoid circularity, must involve something more in the saying (or the definition) than was already present in what is defined, but this something more, however, must necessarily mean something, and this means that meaning must be tacitly understood or taken for granted. This is perhaps the logical justification for the old saying, "in the beginning was the word." It is, in general, not good for us to have forgotten that all critical thought is nourished by something that can only be affirmed.
to encourage critical thinking , you must provide your audience a small portion of clue. but these clues or premises must be relevant or would guide the audience to the answer accurately.
you can kind of write out your thoughts and then analyze your own thinking. Possibly it is some new revelation or a way to reflect. I wrote this page of spewed thoughts to later look at. It made me see I have some challenges or confused thinking.
On the subject of free speech and critical thinking, as well as the subject of trans rights: I had my mind blown when I recently found and started watching Blaire White's videos on TH-cam (she's male to female trans). I'm a typical heterosexual guy, and after watching and listening to her I ended up feeling that I was so cocooned within my own narrow idea of what trans people believed that I was honestly blown away and impressed with her statements and perspectives because they mirrored mine to such a large degree. Due to that, and the fact I appreciate her to-the-point rebuttals and honesty, I quickly became a subscriber to her channel.
It seems to me that she has become ostracized, to a degree, by part of the LGBTQ+ community (definitely by the more fringe groups) due to her strong objections and perspectives regarding the likes of: non-binary genders, the fact that she still considers herself as being biologically male (when some others don't), and her strong objections to teaching young kids about all of these things. These are perspectives and beliefs that I certainly share with her.
I feel it would be interesting for you to have her on as a guest, as I feel it could lead to some engaging dialogue and discussion.
More to the point of the video; I believe that free speech/dialogue/expression ("free speech") is the conduit through which we can safely negotiate possible torturous paths of differing ideology without the fear of culminating in a harmful abyss, and hopefully concluding with something beneficial for all parties. It's a process of negotiation and learning - without it our progress would become stagnant and stale very quickly due to a lack of acceptance of other perspectives, ideologies and beliefs. Removing, or restricting, free speech would be disastrous to humanity, and it would also be incredibly naive to do so. For me, "free speech" is not one-sided or linear - it involves listening, learning, and understanding the other party (or parties) involved in the conversation. It allows for the fluidity of being wrong and correcting yourself, and it even allows for the potential of all parties to meet a completely different conclusion compared to their initial individual beliefs or ideas. Freedom of speech is how real, valuable and positive progress is driven, and to dismiss that and restrict speech is very dictatorial and naive in my eye. Without freedom of speech, or thought, how can the likes of science continue? How can politics continue? How can general art continue? How can the most basic of conversations continue?
if you state something, you need to be willing to accept the fact that it's possible most people may conclude your argument(s) to be wrong or inaccurate and disagree with you. The biggest factor for me is whether you can move on from it positively. Can you learn from the comments and ideas of others, or do you continue to reduce yourself into a narrow and arrogant scope of thought that you remain delusional or escaping the reality of the situation?
There are people who we'd wish were not able to speak, or speak so loudly, due to their radical and extreme views, but - don't forget - without this freedom we would not be able to refute them in the first place. More importantly: without the freedom to discuss and refute, our societies would remain stagnant. Freedom of speech, to me, is the core basis from which everything stems - whether than be good or bad. We just need to take the good with the bad, as nothing is perfect - we are certainly not perfect beings!
Yes! A podcast between Blair and Jordan would be so interesting to hear. I love Blair and how opinionated and unapologetically herself she is. For me, she is the true representative of the trans community because at the end of the day, what Blair promotes is to see trans people as individuals who want a normal life in the body they feel the most comfortable with. It's not about imposing or demanding respect. It's about individuality and peace of mind.
I really hope to see her in the channel one day 🖤
@@damfhokage4993 She seems open but believes what she believes, she's logical, knowledgeable, and respects reality. Plus, her personality is very fun and humorous at the same time! Her videos have taught me a few things, so I really respect her a lot. :)
Physics and mathematics are best mental models to think .
I've really been enjoying the different guests you have had on your channel, Mr. Peterson. I would like to offer up the suggestion to interview Pierre Poilievre. I believe this would be illuminating for your viewers and Canadians.
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Writing is the first step of critical thinking. A person has to be critical of their own work if they want it to be any good.
Never been amazed more about his genius!
Who else found jordan around 20-25yrs old and is listening everyday👍
Found him like last year when I was 22 lol
~I love Dr. Peterson & he has changed my life in a wonderful & profound way, but this video was not nearly as helpful as the comment section~
amazing. Peterson always makes us think deeper. well done.
The first, vital, step in thinking, is to define your terms. It's a shock to me that the most famous book about "Time" never tries to define what the writer means by "Time". You need to be familiar with the entirety of your grasp of the concepts you are dealing with, the words you are using, to begin the journey. I find I let my mind free float, but around an idea, and after a while, clarifications come to mind, which I use focused logic to dissect and link to other related concepts. It's all about making links and seeing patterns.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
--Benjamin Franklin.
It’s insane that we are having to hanger this conversation! I think that people hand become mentally lazy. “Too busy” too overwhelmed to stop and actually confront what’s happening around them.
The other issue, is that there is SOOO much other stimulation to instantly run to..to avoid thinking about it all.
It’s terrifying 😀🥰👊🏝🇦🇺
It's interesting how the people who listen and think along with Jordan Peterson are keeping their heads, while those who see and think what they're told from the legacy media are losing theirs.
Jordan, my spirit dad 💕
“We think the thoughts of dead philosophers”. I believe it was Aristotle who theorized that people who get Ideas were people who had an ability of access to a plain of ideas and they could stick their minds up there and essentially see the idea in plain sight.
After reading my stroke of insight by Jill bolte Taylor, I’ve come to realize that it’s more likely the left brain that assembles conceptual parts together and the combination of parts into reasonably feasible ideas is just somewhat limited and obvious.
I use to wonder why I would come up with an idea that already exists when I was certain I hadn’t been exposed to it. There’s just a limited number of combination of pieces and the probability that you will assemble something together in similar way that someone else did has a higher probability then you would think.
This video is so awesome. It's so important to think about our critical thinking. Keep up the good work Jordan Peterson.
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We cannot choose thoughts, they choose us and they depend on what you take in or consume.
I wish more than anything in my theater of imagination that someone like Jordan Peterson would ask me about Aristotle's syllogism, how this process works using major and minor premises, and finally a conclusion that speaks to our androgynous totality? This process involves principle which is innately invisible, and indivisible.
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Who can help solve my problems? Only God.
This is a bit off point but; As a visual artist myself, I find we think in visuals and images. It is so obvious that we tend to overlook it. If I say elephant, then you just saw one. Not the same one as I see, but never the less it is a visual thought. I believe we use words to communicate much of this theatre that constantly plays out in our minds and we communicate these experiences using what words we have at out disposal, but I don't think a person with a rich vocabulary has any more insight or wisdom than a man who cannot speak at all, just the ability to communicate it more accurately.
Good comment. Words are quite limiting when trying to express or explain something. Like trying to tell a space alien what the flavour of a strawberry is....
Question: Prolonged sleep deprivation. How many hours in nearly two weeks is Safe? Think I am Way past that. Nice book, haven't finished it yet.
The only way to think critically is to be emotionally detached. As soon as you have an emotional investment in one side being right, then all of the cognitive biases come out in full force. In today's political spectrum, if you are not a centrist, you probably aren't a critical thinker; as there is no underlying logical consistency in either left-wing or right-wing thought; the coherence is only by the homogenizing effect of emotional attachment to group identity, and conformity.
Brilliant. Sharing this.
To add on though, I think you can be genuinely leftwing or rightwing and be coherent, but the issue arises from what you said; conformity. A lot of modern leftwing and rightwing "positions" contradict themselves because people go along with their "side" and then rationalize their positions later. That's horrible.
Also, if someone is happy about every position they take, that's a red flag. Principles are usually proven by support of something despite personally disliking it.
Thank you Jordan Peterson
No one can stop you from thinking what you want, you don't have to share it with people who are not ready to welcome or accept it.
Uncle Jordan much appreciation
Love the Rogerian nod JBP makes at 9.04
We’ve been through a two year ritual dedicated to the denial of the utility of thought.
Precisely. Do as you're told, and don't you dare think anything different than the official narrative.
Free speech is necessary for the production of truth.