Did you try this technique? How did it go? Do you have another favourite way of creating dark backgrounds? 😊 If you're wondering whether this technique loses some of the tooth... It feels a little grainer to work on in the first layer or two, but then it feels smoother as normal, and I got the same amount of layers using this method as I would usually do! So I don't think I lost any of the tooth, but it's worth doing a sample piece before committing (just in case your method/paper is different to mine 😊)
@@FineArtforChrist I didn't really plan/prep, I just started doing it haha There's always so much to learn about TH-cam, so it's an ongoing learning process I started uploading videos mid-year 2019 but they were very random (maybe once a month) and I started uploading more regularly about a year ago I started recording with my phone and did the voiceover by using the voice recorder on my phone as well. I edited on imovie which comes free on Mac computers! I kept getting asked the same questions when I uploaded my art to social media, so I figured I'd start making tutorials with the answers for other people to see 😊 I'm actually still using my phone now (the camera is pretty good, so I'm waiting a bit longer before investing in a "real" camera) but I do recommend getting a decent microphone because that makes a huge difference! I'm not sure if that helps! 😊
@@KirstyRebeccaFineArt That's great, and congrats on growing so quickly! I just started recently and totally agree that youtube is an ongoing process. I have learned so much already! What microphone do you recomend? Thank you for sharing your story and advice with me!
Gouache dries matte and also soaks into the paper a lot more (leaving the toothy texture of the paper available to draw on top of) There are some acrylics that dry matte but I find that it makes the paper feel smooth and plastic-y which is hard to draw on top of 😊
Yes, it's definitely helpful! I have quite a few line drawings that I never got around to starting (and now it's been too long and I don't want to do them anymore haha) so this is the perfect solution 😊
Super idea! Thank you!!! I too have some pastelmat paper which went for a waste as I did not want to finish my painting but couldn't bring myself to throw away the paper as it's so expensive and not even available in my country!! Why didn't this brilliant idea come to me?? 🙂
Hey! Do you have any advice for maintaining motivation for your drawings? I have wanted to give up multiple times & take large breaks at a time. I once started a drawing, and found it 2 months later as I had given up. So my point is; do you lose motivation & do you have tips on how to stay focused?❤️
I have some older videos that may be useful for you! These three are all based around inspiration and motivation 😊 th-cam.com/video/25wW4xyvir0/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/mOSkFIuxvWM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/dAk8PAlnm24/w-d-xo.html
It feels a little grainer to work on in the first layer or two, but then it feels smoother as normal, and I got the same amount of layers using this method as I would usually do! So I don't think I lost any of the tooth, but it's worth doing a sample piece before committing (just in case your method/paper is different to mine 😊)
Interesting idea. You mentioned that the paper will warp when you add the water unless you tape it down, even with watercolor paper. I've never used wet media before, but I have to ask...why would watercolor paper warp when you add water? Isn't it made to accept water without warping?
I'm not an expert in watercolour, so you can research some videos from others with more knowledge on this subject on TH-cam but I will try my best to share what I know 😊 When a paper is designed for wet mediums, it just means it's strong enough to not break away/crumble/get ruined in any way by adding water. Good quality watercolour papers will be made from 100% cotton, rather than typical "paper" which helps with the breakage/crumbling/warping. Although these papers are designed to accept water, it doesn't prevent the paper from warping when wet, unfortunately! A lot of watercolour paper will actually come in "blocks" rather than "pads" where all 4 sides are secured to the pad of paper so that the edges won't warp when you add water Some people will "stretch" their paper first by taping down their paper, wetting the entire piece, letting it dry in place, then painting on it after it's dry - I believe this stops the warping from happening as much! Also, if you use a heavier weight paper, the buckling/cockling/warping doesn't happen as much as thinner papers I hope that helps answer your question a bit 😊
I've tried this technique and it gives the drawing something interesting! Have you any tips for me how i can get more endurance to draw? I wonder how some artists working on a drawing for weeks or even months- this amount of patient and endurance! I want to bring my drawing to the next level and i know that i have to plan more time for this but how do i do it?
Honestly, I struggle with that as well For me, I don't want to spend more than 5 hours (10 max) on a drawing, so I focus on the values, rather than the tiny details to make it look realistic (in a shorter amount of time) You don't need tiny details that take 50-100 hours for something to look realistic, it's actually having the correct shadows/highlights (values) and correct proportions that make it look relaisorc from a normal viewing distance, then when you look closer, there's a lot of pencil strokes/pastel strokes/brush strokes visible and it's not really that detailed I don't know if that helps at all, but if you watch my tutorials, most of them are done within 5 hours, some a bit longer, but no more than 10 My Patreon channel may be helpful for you to see the process! 😊
You could try it (I have never used Uart because it isn't acid free on the back) But I believe coloured pencil would work on top of this on Pastelmat so if you usually use coloured pencil on Uart, then you could give it a go!
I'd probably do a test piece first! I don't think there would be anything wrong with it in terms of how archival it is But it would depend on the gesso, if it had a shine to it, if it's a thicker one etc
I'd probably do a test piece first to check! I think if you use it sparingly over a few layers of coloured pencil, it should be okay but gouache can technically be reactivated with water (although I don't think it would happen unless you really scrub at it!)
I've only really used the Winsor and Newton Deisgner's Gouache and I also have a black and white from Art Spectrum! I like the Winsor and Newton, but I honestly haven't used any other brands 😊
You can try it, but I think the plastic nature of acrylic and the fact that a lot of acrylics dry glossy which is slippery, will probably make it harder to work on top of!
@@KirstyRebeccaFineArt oh ok will gouache work ok with Tone Grey paper ? I’m halfway done with my art on this paper I’m stuck with the background part. Thanks
Does it warp the paper? Crap. Okay. I just heard that it does. My issue is that I already did the pastel drawing but I realized I wanted to make it black in the background with the subject backlit. Oy.
It depends on the paper you're using! On Pastelmat (like this one) or good quality watercolour paper, it won't warp - but I always tape my work down just in case 😊
You can use any acid free masking tape (I sometimes use scotch tape - magic tape, or wash tape) I personally taped it to my desk for filming purposes but I recommend taping it to a drawing board or something you can move around 😊
I liked watching your video ! Please make more work like this Your work reminds me of oli mueller. His vid is like dave greco mixed with Borodante Take a look at his yt channel #TH-camrOliMueller
Did you try this technique? How did it go?
Do you have another favourite way of creating dark backgrounds? 😊
If you're wondering whether this technique loses some of the tooth... It feels a little grainer to work on in the first layer or two, but then it feels smoother as normal, and I got the same amount of layers using this method as I would usually do!
So I don't think I lost any of the tooth, but it's worth doing a sample piece before committing (just in case your method/paper is different to mine 😊)
Kirsty you're just amazing. Thank you ❤️
You are so welcome 😊
I am glad to see your channel. So realistic Painting. Amazing.
Thank you so much 😀
😍😍😍😍😍👌👌👌👌👌It's a mind blowing painting great work and thank you so much for reaching us🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Most welcome 😊
Great video as always Kirsty, and a very interesting idea!
Thanks so much! 😊
@@KirstyRebeccaFineArt Hey, just wondering but when did you decide to do youtube? How much planning/ prep work did you do before starting?
@@FineArtforChrist
I didn't really plan/prep, I just started doing it haha
There's always so much to learn about TH-cam, so it's an ongoing learning process
I started uploading videos mid-year 2019 but they were very random (maybe once a month) and I started uploading more regularly about a year ago
I started recording with my phone and did the voiceover by using the voice recorder on my phone as well. I edited on imovie which comes free on Mac computers!
I kept getting asked the same questions when I uploaded my art to social media, so I figured I'd start making tutorials with the answers for other people to see 😊
I'm actually still using my phone now (the camera is pretty good, so I'm waiting a bit longer before investing in a "real" camera) but I do recommend getting a decent microphone because that makes a huge difference!
I'm not sure if that helps! 😊
@@KirstyRebeccaFineArt That's great, and congrats on growing so quickly!
I just started recently and totally agree that youtube is an ongoing process. I have learned so much already!
What microphone do you recomend?
Thank you for sharing your story and advice with me!
Very informative 😃😃👍👍
Thank you 😊
Thank you for this great idea!
You are so welcome!
Beautiful work
Thankyou 😊
wow what a great idea!! Also what's the difference between using the guache or using black acrylic paint???
Gouache dries matte and also soaks into the paper a lot more (leaving the toothy texture of the paper available to draw on top of)
There are some acrylics that dry matte but I find that it makes the paper feel smooth and plastic-y which is hard to draw on top of 😊
This is a nice way to cover an old unwanted drawing and to reuse your Pastelmat.
Yes, it's definitely helpful! I have quite a few line drawings that I never got around to starting (and now it's been too long and I don't want to do them anymore haha) so this is the perfect solution 😊
Super idea! Thank you!!! I too have some pastelmat paper which went for a waste as I did not want to finish my painting but couldn't bring myself to throw away the paper as it's so expensive and not even available in my country!! Why didn't this brilliant idea come to me?? 🙂
You are so welcome!
lol i just found this technique too. i akso tried using water to blend graphite on water color paper but do u tjink that is a good idea
I haven't tried that so I'm really not sure!
Hey! Do you have any advice for maintaining motivation for your drawings? I have wanted to give up multiple times & take large breaks at a time. I once started a drawing, and found it 2 months later as I had given up. So my point is; do you lose motivation & do you have tips on how to stay focused?❤️
I have some older videos that may be useful for you!
These three are all based around inspiration and motivation 😊
th-cam.com/video/25wW4xyvir0/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/mOSkFIuxvWM/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/dAk8PAlnm24/w-d-xo.html
Do you loose some of the tooth of the paper with the method?
It feels a little grainer to work on in the first layer or two, but then it feels smoother as normal, and I got the same amount of layers using this method as I would usually do!
So I don't think I lost any of the tooth, but it's worth doing a sample piece before committing (just in case your method/paper is different to mine 😊)
Interesting idea. You mentioned that the paper will warp when you add the water unless you tape it down, even with watercolor paper. I've never used wet media before, but I have to ask...why would watercolor paper warp when you add water? Isn't it made to accept water without warping?
I'm not an expert in watercolour, so you can research some videos from others with more knowledge on this subject on TH-cam but I will try my best to share what I know 😊
When a paper is designed for wet mediums, it just means it's strong enough to not break away/crumble/get ruined in any way by adding water. Good quality watercolour papers will be made from 100% cotton, rather than typical "paper" which helps with the breakage/crumbling/warping. Although these papers are designed to accept water, it doesn't prevent the paper from warping when wet, unfortunately!
A lot of watercolour paper will actually come in "blocks" rather than "pads" where all 4 sides are secured to the pad of paper so that the edges won't warp when you add water
Some people will "stretch" their paper first by taping down their paper, wetting the entire piece, letting it dry in place, then painting on it after it's dry - I believe this stops the warping from happening as much!
Also, if you use a heavier weight paper, the buckling/cockling/warping doesn't happen as much as thinner papers
I hope that helps answer your question a bit 😊
I've tried this technique and it gives the drawing something interesting! Have you any tips for me how i can get more endurance to draw? I wonder how some artists working on a drawing for weeks or even months- this amount of patient and endurance! I want to bring my drawing to the next level and i know that i have to plan more time for this but how do i do it?
Honestly, I struggle with that as well
For me, I don't want to spend more than 5 hours (10 max) on a drawing, so I focus on the values, rather than the tiny details to make it look realistic (in a shorter amount of time)
You don't need tiny details that take 50-100 hours for something to look realistic, it's actually having the correct shadows/highlights (values) and correct proportions that make it look relaisorc from a normal viewing distance, then when you look closer, there's a lot of pencil strokes/pastel strokes/brush strokes visible and it's not really that detailed
I don't know if that helps at all, but if you watch my tutorials, most of them are done within 5 hours, some a bit longer, but no more than 10
My Patreon channel may be helpful for you to see the process! 😊
Would this technique still work if my medium is coloured graphite pencils?
I don't see why not, but you could do a test piece to make sure!
can I use this intense background on Uart and with colored pencil on top??
You could try it (I have never used Uart because it isn't acid free on the back)
But I believe coloured pencil would work on top of this on Pastelmat so if you usually use coloured pencil on Uart, then you could give it a go!
Hello Kirsty. Would black gesso on Pastelmat or watercolor paper work as well?
I'd probably do a test piece first!
I don't think there would be anything wrong with it in terms of how archival it is
But it would depend on the gesso, if it had a shine to it, if it's a thicker one etc
Can you still use solvent to blend coloured pencils with this technique?
I'd probably do a test piece first to check! I think if you use it sparingly over a few layers of coloured pencil, it should be okay but gouache can technically be reactivated with water (although I don't think it would happen unless you really scrub at it!)
You could also just use the gouache in the background, and just leave the area where your main subject is white!
Can I use acrylics instead? Mars Black is good by Liquitex Basics
You can try it, I know the liquitex basics dry matte as well, but I think the plastic nature of acrylic may be harder to work on top of!
How about black gesso?
Can I use acrylic for it ?
I don't think it will work because most acrylics have a shiny finish which the pastel won't really stick to - you could try it and find out though!
Which brand of gouache do you recommend?
I've only really used the Winsor and Newton Deisgner's Gouache and I also have a black and white from Art Spectrum! I like the Winsor and Newton, but I honestly haven't used any other brands 😊
@@KirstyRebeccaFineArt
Thanx for responding
Can you do it with Acrylic what would be the difference 💐
You can try it, but I think the plastic nature of acrylic and the fact that a lot of acrylics dry glossy which is slippery, will probably make it harder to work on top of!
How to cover large areas in black colored pencil?? For black background
That is why I created this video 😊
An easy way to cover large areas is to use black gouache!
You can also use Pan Pastel which is another easy option
@@KirstyRebeccaFineArt oh ok will gouache work ok with Tone Grey paper ? I’m halfway done with my art on this paper I’m stuck with the background part. Thanks
Does it warp the paper? Crap. Okay. I just heard that it does. My issue is that I already did the pastel drawing but I realized I wanted to make it black in the background with the subject backlit. Oy.
It depends on the paper you're using!
On Pastelmat (like this one) or good quality watercolour paper, it won't warp - but I always tape my work down just in case 😊
What kind of tape and what do you tape it to?
You can use any acid free masking tape (I sometimes use scotch tape - magic tape, or wash tape)
I personally taped it to my desk for filming purposes but I recommend taping it to a drawing board or something you can move around 😊
@@KirstyRebeccaFineArt Thank you very much.
Interesting how it still took a few layers to completely hide the original tiger stripes. Great tip though, I'll give it a go.
You're welcome 😊
try putting some pumice powder in gesso that will give you some tooth
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I liked watching your video !
Please make more work like this
Your work reminds me of oli mueller.
His vid is like dave greco mixed with Borodante
Take a look at his yt channel #TH-camrOliMueller