I've lived up in Humboldt County, California where the Wiyot and Yurok tribes are. It's always struck me how incredibly different their languages look/sound from their Athabascan neighbors- even to a layman.
Geographically Uto-Aztecan declined but there are still more than 1 million speakers of Nahuatl alone, the biggest Uto-Aztecan language. Compare that to Cree which is the largest Algic language and doesn't even have 100k speakers.
Very neat and accurate work, classification and modern distribution are shown correctly, but did you not think that Proto Algic splited earlier, about 7000 years ago?
Thank you very much. In fact, the bibliography suggests a date of 5000 BC for the Proto-Algic and 1000 BC. for the Proto-Algonquian, with no satisfactory models to bridge the gap.
It's amazing to think how many events happened during this time. lovers met each other. young men became ancient old men. traditions arose and disappeared. someone promised to return and disappeared forever. a three thousand year long story ended overnight.
keep in mind that linguistic proximity to another language within a particular language group is not necessarily dependent merely on "how late vs how early" the split occured. Language proximity is also greatly affected by its physical geographical location. Naturally, dialects/languages spoken in physically proximity to another language speaking area will be thus greatly affected by that other language. Just how for example Welsh has great linguistic and cultural influences from English, and Breton has great linguistic and cultral influences from French respectively, even though both Welsh and Breton are both Celtic languages (and not Germanic nor Romance languages) because their physical location and proximity to their respective languages has influenced their vocabulary, syntax, and phonology. This rule would apply to almost every language on earth. So linguistic proximity cannot solely be reduced to WHEN they split, but WHAT EXTERNAL SURROUNDING FACTORS affected the language at any given epoch in history too.
Bittersweet. My area of Northern Ontario and Northern Quebec were very lucky to have managed to survive. So many beautiful languages and cultures didn’t survive colonization.
Hey! Amazing video once again :) I was wondering if you could tell me what you use to make these videos? I'd like to make one of my own fantasy world I've been working on.
And where did proto algic language come from? People came in North America more than 12.000 years ago. Therefore the algic language family must be split off another language family already present in North America or came to America by ships from Asia at around 3.000 BCE?
Iirc it was speculated that the people who crossed over were actually a very small amount, so it's possible the ancient ancestor was just the language of a tiny tribe that has been gone and forgotten in Asia for millenia
It's probably too far back in history for us to know. Languages must have come from _somewhere,_ but past a certain point entropy takes its toll and it's completely impossible to figure out what went on.
They did not all come as a lump. The last Native americans were the Eskimo, who came by boat from Siberia, and reached Greenland about the time the last medieval vikings there died.
@@tommy-er6hhAs i read in the book Jared Diamond "Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed", Vikings, living on Greenland, encountered eskimos on Grenland.
I still have no idea why the krī prefer writing with 55 letters instead of 13. What is the point of silibaries? Also yea they should definetly learn to speak their own language, then they wouldnt care for Kanadas french english devide.
They did to the pre-Algic populations the same what colonists did to them. I'm always surprised people view trans-oceanic expansions different then continental expansions. It's all as old as humanity or even older. Just look on territorial fights of animals. Same story of one land claimed by more than one.
I've lived up in Humboldt County, California where the Wiyot and Yurok tribes are. It's always struck me how incredibly different their languages look/sound from their Athabascan neighbors- even to a layman.
At least this didn’t decline as much as the uto aztecan langauges
they are shattered in sparsely habited area
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False, in percentage and population the Uto-Aztec languages are more extensive, they literally only seem more why Canada is too uninhabited
Geographically Uto-Aztecan declined but there are still more than 1 million speakers of Nahuatl alone, the biggest Uto-Aztecan language. Compare that to Cree which is the largest Algic language and doesn't even have 100k speakers.
Thanks for introducing this language family.
You're welcome :)
Very neat and accurate work, classification and modern distribution are shown correctly, but did you not think that Proto Algic splited earlier, about 7000 years ago?
Thank you very much. In fact, the bibliography suggests a date of 5000 BC for the Proto-Algic and 1000 BC. for the Proto-Algonquian, with no satisfactory models to bridge the gap.
Incredible work! Love your videos and your channel! ❤
Thank you very much
These videos are always a treat when they come out
I get so exicted whenever a Costas Melas video comes out! Thank you!!
You're welcome :)
Great video, thanks for covering these lesser known language families
Thank you
you're welcome@@CostasMelas
It's amazing to see these langueges are still commonly spoken! Faboulous video!!❤❤❤
Thank you
It's amazing to think how many events happened during this time. lovers met each other. young men became ancient old men. traditions arose and disappeared. someone promised to return and disappeared forever. a three thousand year long story ended overnight.
Thank you. And also looking forward to a Mayan video.😊
You're welcome :)
Thanks!
They were the Indo Europeans of North America
Many people will misunderstand this though. :D
@@dieletztekavallerie395 just because of their strong expansion😁
@@galgar5660and today the Indo European languages is the most spoken language family in the world
But they weren't as imperialistic
@@GL-iv4rwHow do you know?
I never knew blackfoot split so early. I always thought it was closer to cheyenne and arapaho
keep in mind that linguistic proximity to another language within a particular language group is not necessarily dependent merely on "how late vs how early" the split occured. Language proximity is also greatly affected by its physical geographical location. Naturally, dialects/languages spoken in physically proximity to another language speaking area will be thus greatly affected by that other language. Just how for example Welsh has great linguistic and cultural influences from English, and Breton has great linguistic and cultral influences from French respectively, even though both Welsh and Breton are both Celtic languages (and not Germanic nor Romance languages) because their physical location and proximity to their respective languages has influenced their vocabulary, syntax, and phonology. This rule would apply to almost every language on earth. So linguistic proximity cannot solely be reduced to WHEN they split, but WHAT EXTERNAL SURROUNDING FACTORS affected the language at any given epoch in history too.
Bittersweet. My area of Northern Ontario and Northern Quebec were very lucky to have managed to survive. So many beautiful languages and cultures didn’t survive colonization.
They migrated between the shores of America 🥲
"Algic languages".
Spoken by the aquatic plant-organisms, the "Algae". Didn't know that aquatic organisms had their own languages and dialects too. XD
Ha Ha Ha so funny. Get out of our lands
@@tanhukim9963 "Get out of our lands". I'm not American and I don't live in America either, if that's what you mean. lol
I thought of Algeria.
I love your videos Costas ❤ there's no one like you
Thank you very much
@@CostasMelas are you greek, Costas Melas?
I could have pointed this out earlier but the existence of a common Yurok-Wiyot (Ritwan) node is controversial nowadays.
How did they manage to expand so dramatically??
Low population density
Nomadic Lifestyle
and linguistically and maybe culturally anglicization
Hey! Amazing video once again :)
I was wondering if you could tell me what you use to make these videos? I'd like to make one of my own fantasy world I've been working on.
Thank you. I mainly use paintnet and blender
Neat video.
Please do the history of the Chibchan, Arawak, Tupian or Carib language families
I would love to make them
Nice video
Thanks
Can you make a video on the biothic language spoken in Newfoundland
Are you going to do the Athapaskan family soon?
I have made it as Dene-Yeniseian
@@CostasMelas alright thanks alot 😊
The Algic tribes: going from sea to shining sea 2,700 years before the Americans
It's sad to see how native Americans lost almost all their land after 1600
Great video. RIP native American languages in USA
Thank you
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Yurok 🤝 Viyot
Eastern Altaic: Tungusic, Jomonic, Japonic, and Koreanic. Please.
I have made the Tungusic languages
@@CostasMelas Thank. I saw it.
Can you make a hypothetical video about Proto-Uralo-Altaic or Proto-Altaic?
And where did proto algic language come from? People came in North America more than 12.000 years ago. Therefore the algic language family must be split off another language family already present in North America or came to America by ships from Asia at around 3.000 BCE?
Iirc it was speculated that the people who crossed over were actually a very small amount, so it's possible the ancient ancestor was just the language of a tiny tribe that has been gone and forgotten in Asia for millenia
It's probably too far back in history for us to know. Languages must have come from _somewhere,_ but past a certain point entropy takes its toll and it's completely impossible to figure out what went on.
They did not all come as a lump. The last Native americans were the Eskimo, who came by boat from Siberia, and reached Greenland about the time the last medieval vikings there died.
@@tommy-er6hhAs i read in the book Jared Diamond "Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed", Vikings, living on Greenland, encountered eskimos on Grenland.
@@randomguy-tg7oksmall things you know ,this is good
The indo europeans of NA
I still have no idea why the krī prefer writing with 55 letters instead of 13. What is the point of silibaries?
Also yea they should definetly learn to speak their own language, then they wouldnt care for Kanadas french english devide.
Fun fact: Semen is actually nutritious and edible.
What does this have to do with the video?
I hate what my ancestors did. I would happily not exist if it meant all of the rich and fascinating native american cultures could have survived
Cuck
They did to the pre-Algic populations the same what colonists did to them.
I'm always surprised people view trans-oceanic expansions different then continental expansions.
It's all as old as humanity or even older. Just look on territorial fights of animals. Same story of one land claimed by more than one.
our cousins🇹🇷