Languages of the British Isles

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  • Languages of the British Isles, Neolithic substrate, Bell Beaker substrate, Atlantic substrate, Proto-Celtic, Proto-Germanic, Celtic-Q, Celtic-P, Brythonic, Goidelic, Pictish, Latin, British Romance, North Sea Germanic, Welch, Cornish, Cumbric, Irish, Scottish Gaelic, Manx, English, Scots, Norn
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  • @randomguy-tg7ok
    @randomguy-tg7ok 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +247

    You know this is going to be good when the history starts with one substrate overtaking another.

    • @ScrubbaDubDub
      @ScrubbaDubDub 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What even is a substrate?

    • @randomguy-tg7ok
      @randomguy-tg7ok 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      When one language moves into the area another language occupies without killing all of the occupants, some remnants of the indigenous language can get implanted into the new one as old speakers learn it. This is most notable in the names of places (especially rivers) but can also manifest itself in specific words, sounds, or grammar.
      Fortunately, English has many examples of this - the fact that English uses "do" in some questions *could* have been a result of Brythonic speakers applying their language's grammar rules to Old English when learning to speak it, for example.

    • @clouds-rb9xt
      @clouds-rb9xt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@randomguy-tg7okWhat about the Atlantic Substrate that came before Brythonic?

    • @randomguy-tg7ok
      @randomguy-tg7ok 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dunno. I'm not a linguist. Couldn't tell ya.

    • @CarthagoMike
      @CarthagoMike 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@randomguy-tg7ok Do is Saxon-Germanic I believe, and not Celtic.

  • @julianfejzo4829
    @julianfejzo4829 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    A little correction, Scottish Gaelic, Manx, and Irish were still the same language in the Middle Ages, Old Irish and Middle Irish precisely. Given that you differentiated between Old, Middle, and Modern stages for French, English, Dutch, and Frisian, I think it would've been better if you did the same for Gaelic.
    *Edit:* I forgot to mention Primitive Irish and Classical Gaelic were also a thing.

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Thank you for the interesting feedback

    • @turxanazimzade3917
      @turxanazimzade3917 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@CostasMelas Please make Caucasus again or armenian

    • @gwynedd4023
      @gwynedd4023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​His feedback sucked you portrayed that in the video​@@CostasMelas

  • @arta.xshaca
    @arta.xshaca 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Don't think Latin/Romance ever became a majority language in Britain. Even it took western France 8-9 centuries to get overwhelmingly Romance speaking. And Britain is further than that, so what can one expect except lesser dominance of Romance/Latin there.

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      There were numerous legions in Britain. Something similar to the Danube border where Anatolian Romance and later Romanian came from

    • @mattc9998
      @mattc9998 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      British Romance was definitely a thing.

    • @elvenrights2428
      @elvenrights2428 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@CostasMelas did legions teach/instill Latin languages to the peasants and other indigenous population of England that Latin could dominate? If there were just Roman legions, only some stripes of Latin would be seen on the map, not entire land Latin.

    • @esti-od1mz
      @esti-od1mz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@elvenrights2428the legions were not simply militar outposts. They built colonies in those former territories, where latin was spoken

    • @nazeem8680
      @nazeem8680 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CostasMelas Romanian didnt develop from anatolian romance. It developed from latin dialects spoken and originating in the balkans. I have never heard about "anatolian romance" and im quite sceptical it ever existed, atleast not as a standalone dialect distinguishable from other romance dialects.

  • @JohnSmith-of2gu
    @JohnSmith-of2gu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Surprised to see this start so far into prehistory. What is the rationale behind starting just as the Bell Beaker culture is arriving, are there any linguistic features that can be confidently attributed to the British Neolithic Substrate instead of the later Bell Beaker?

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Unfortunately, no. This cultural change can only be observed archaeologically

    • @monkeypie8701
      @monkeypie8701 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'm interested in that part, they built Stonehenge

    • @JohnSmith-of2gu
      @JohnSmith-of2gu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I see. Bit odd to call it a "substrate" if it didn't leave actual traces no?@@CostasMelas

    • @grantottero4980
      @grantottero4980 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is also no sure evidence that it was ONE substrate and not more than one...

  • @Matthew_080
    @Matthew_080 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I am very grateful that there is such a uniwue mapper like you, Costas. Amazing video!

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you

  • @TheNineteenthCentury
    @TheNineteenthCentury 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Fascinating. I am glad you started it so far into prehistory, as most charts of this kind start later.

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you

  • @ermin2248
    @ermin2248 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Why was Welsh able to survive much longer time of English domination while Irish didn't?

    • @user-do4dn6fs4x
      @user-do4dn6fs4x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      I hope what people with more sophisticated knowledge would correct me, but one of the reasons is what Wales is, maybe, the poorest region of British islands. When the southern part is the center of coal-mining, which attracted much of English-speaking workers, the northern was mountainous and agricultural, and, in result, non-attractive for immigration.

    • @Quareque
      @Quareque 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      ​@@user-do4dn6fs4x Ireland's state was much more bad in comparison with Wales.
      Everyone wanted to escape from this island in 19 century.

    • @randomguy-tg7ok
      @randomguy-tg7ok 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Wales didn't suffer an absentee-landlord-enabled government-coopted mass famine combined with horrendous amounts of active racism and assimilation efforts in the 19th century.
      I'd imagine that the general lack of armed conflict between England and Wales after the 15th Century generally helped in this regard.

    • @freestylevimto3109
      @freestylevimto3109 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      It’s all about how people were taught, the Catholic Church really did a number on people speaking Irish whereas the traditionally Protestant dissident Wales had plenty of churches that taught Welsh.

    • @stanleypines1026
      @stanleypines1026 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@randomguy-tg7ok Ah the old "government backed famine" myth.

  • @Haggis984
    @Haggis984 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Its sad that languages die i am happy that some of the celtic languages survived or got revived

  • @danki-duck
    @danki-duck 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Germanic brothers❤🇬🇧🇳🇱

  • @xXxSkyViperxXx
    @xXxSkyViperxXx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    oooh i did not know that irish became official in northern ireland quite recently last 2022

  • @proletar1660
    @proletar1660 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Perfect work, Costas!

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you

  • @cockroach2
    @cockroach2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great work as always.

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great video as always, love this!

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you

    • @micahistory
      @micahistory 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you're welcome@@CostasMelas

  • @facoulac
    @facoulac 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    A very informative and detailed video. for me the most interesting was seeing the spread the decline of english in ireland.

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you

  • @bluemym1nd
    @bluemym1nd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another great video man

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you

  • @martinomasolo8833
    @martinomasolo8833 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love it. I just don't particulary fancy when the upper class or "official" languages take all of the territory, it gets messy a lot. Maybe better to concentrate it on cities (for example here middle french)

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. Maybe I could make the stripes thinner

  • @dmitrimikrioukov5935
    @dmitrimikrioukov5935 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What about such major traditional ancient British languages, as Hindustani and Swahili? They definitely have more speakers in the UK than some dialects of the extinct Gaelic.

  • @iroquoianmapper
    @iroquoianmapper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's amazing!

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you

    • @Judashe_Kieu
      @Judashe_Kieu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even English is not the native language of Great Britain ☺

  • @AquarianAgeApostle
    @AquarianAgeApostle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, excellent documentation of the language families as they evolve over the millennia. 👌🏻

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you

  • @huynhphat369
    @huynhphat369 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Impressed by how the Anglo-Saxon invaders wiped out and genocided the Celtic languages, and even Latin.
    I read somewhere about a theory explaining their victory that while the Celts were busy fighting a civil war for hegemony after driving out the Romans and was caught off guard by strange intruders speaking a silly and incomprehensible language from the east coast, the Anglo-Saxons took full advantage of the opportunity to raid and capture their fertile fields and huge stores of food, causing the proud Celtic warriors who once terrified the Roman legions gradually starved to death and became completely extinct like rare animals.
    Although often believed to be a folk legend, I believe that perhaps the person known as "King Arthur" once existed and was actually some Celtic ruler who tried his best to unite the tribes and kick the barbaric Anglos's butts out of the Britannia, just like they did with the Romans. But he apparently failed miserably and the remnants of his followers had to flee to the West and North and live there cowering for the next 1500 years.
    I wonder if 2000 years before that time, the nomadic Vedic Aryan invaders would have done the same with the ancestors of the Dravidian people of the Indus valley and other indigenous people of North India. But after all, no one can know what happened during those dark and deadly times.
    What a horrifying moment filled with blood and tears in British history!

    • @josephkolodziejski6882
      @josephkolodziejski6882 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      There's also the boring variant, which is surprisingly well supported by genetics, which is that populations did have invasions, but these were limited to elites who could control the "prestige" language, and if they were too scarce, then the majority language would take over.
      I personally believe the UK is the single best example of failed prestige language footholds - once Latin, then Old French, with Celtic failing to maintains it's usefulness relative to English. By normal statistical expectations, it should be a Romance country, but it appears that the Latin/Romance got limited to the elites and the clergy, as evidenced by the extent of Latin all over about a thousand years ago and before a certain Mr Gutenberg.

    • @linderoes7832
      @linderoes7832 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@josephkolodziejski6882Could you explain more about genetic evidence?

    • @linderoes7832
      @linderoes7832 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really wonder that how language brought by immigrants from today Northern Germany replace the Celtic languages in England.It seems that the real descendants of Anglo-Saxons only account for a small portion of British people.Why Old English remained while Latin,Old Norse,Danish,Norman French finally became extinct.

    • @ffreeze9924
      @ffreeze9924 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not to burst your bubble, but probably none of that is true. There’s clear evidence of Celtic speakers, referred to in medieval documents as Britons, still existing well past the Germanic invasions. They were low class because old English was the prestige language (that of the elites. You had to speak it to get anywhere in society. The Britons that held on to their language stayed isolated and low class until the last of them abandoned their language).
      Seems more likely that the Celtic languages in England died out due to cultural blending rather than genocide. Another commenter mentioned the genetic evidence, pretty much everyone in English had significant Celtic ancestry, indicating that the Anglo-saxons intermarried with the Britons. Even some Anglo-Saxon kings took on Celtic names.
      It would be awesome if King Arthur existed, but even in the oldest mention of him, all the way in the 600s, he seems to have already become a folk figure. A Celtic king who won a battle against a Germanic army was said to be “no Arthur”.
      So no Anglo-Saxon bloody genocide of celts. You’re gonna have to wait until 1846 to see that

    • @RichardEdwards40
      @RichardEdwards40 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there was no genocide. Celts adopted english and mixed with the anglo saxons

  • @Juno-gi6fj
    @Juno-gi6fj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey! Just wanted to say I love your videos so much :)
    Also was wondering if you ever intend on doing a tutorial for your videos? If not, May I ask how you make them and with what program/s?

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you very much. Maybe I'll upload a tutorial in the future.

    • @Juno-gi6fj
      @Juno-gi6fj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CostasMelas What software do you use to make these? I want to try to make a fantasy rendition of this for a personal project.

  • @mattc9998
    @mattc9998 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fantastic video. I would have included Dutch in Norfolk shortly after 1565, when an influx of Protestant refugees from the Spanish Netherlands invited by Elizabeth I meant that, in a short period of time, around a third of inhabitants in the area ended up being Dutch-speaking.

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you

  • @franciscor.6828
    @franciscor.6828 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice job. Thanks. 🇨🇱

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you

  • @andrefarfan4372
    @andrefarfan4372 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you

  • @ZBisson
    @ZBisson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You should do a video on the Algonquian Langauges

  • @slimbroski5335
    @slimbroski5335 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cant wait for a full world map of all these languages in one big video! 😁

  • @nicolettileo
    @nicolettileo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good work! Do we have evidence of the Bell Beaker substrate remaining in Scotland as late as the 4th century BC?

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you. It probably played a role in the formation of the Pictish language.

  • @isaiahpoulin9710
    @isaiahpoulin9710 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I would love to see a video about the pama-nyungen language family

  • @user-hs3tf6jc5w
    @user-hs3tf6jc5w 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Cornish was revied in 20th century

  • @v.shortwaver9391
    @v.shortwaver9391 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cornish was basically mostly revived in 1995.

  • @grantottero4980
    @grantottero4980 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good. However, I think that attributing the so-called "North-Western Blo(c)k" (roughly, modern Benelux plus modern East Frisia plus NW part of Lower Saxony) to Proto-Germanic is debatable.

  • @Lingua-qv6ym
    @Lingua-qv6ym 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really wish you could show me the process of making this, I really wish. I hope you continue to work hard in the future. from Korea

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. I use Blender and Paintnet along with a GIS program. I would love to make a tutorial in the future

  • @TorreFLoeckx
    @TorreFLoeckx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great video! One minor criticism about the region I'm from, Flanders. You made it look like Dutch and French have equal status there, but in reality, Dutch is very much the dominant language like is the case in the Netherlands. Just wanted to point that out

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you

  • @rog3785
    @rog3785 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I thought Manx went extinct in in 1974 and there was also a dialect of Norn or Old Norse spoken on Caithness that went extinct by the 15th century.

  • @JohnSmith-of2gu
    @JohnSmith-of2gu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What's the rationale behind having the Bell Beaker Substrate change color to Atlantic Substrate after 2000 BC? Is there reason to believe the Bell Beaker culture gave way to a tangibly different substrate in other parts of their range?

  • @minimodecimomeridio4534
    @minimodecimomeridio4534 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I agree with you distinction between P-Celtic and Q-Celtic languages (which I’d rather call “Gallo-Brythonic” and “Ibero-Goidelic” respectively). The traditional division between “Continental” and “Insular” Celtic languages doesn’t make much sense to me.

  • @elusiviesandfossa-den5390
    @elusiviesandfossa-den5390 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Can you make the episode about languages of Taiwan throughout its own history please?

  • @gaiaperuzzi1176
    @gaiaperuzzi1176 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Next time, make a video on languages of the Italian peninsula?

  • @erik5374
    @erik5374 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I doubt whether proto-Celtic was ever spoken this far north in the Netherlands. The coast must have already been Germanic. The rivers were a natural border. Romans already described that Germans lived on their border.

  • @tommy-er6hh
    @tommy-er6hh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    odd, you have the Celts arriving from 1500 BC, but other sources i read say that Celts did not arrive until about 500 BC?

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There were probably two waves of Celtic migration as I show in the video

  • @jacklupino4112
    @jacklupino4112 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Today in UK: arab and hindu with a little english

  • @user-qc3zg2zu1g
    @user-qc3zg2zu1g 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Are the Bell beakers another group of old europeans or they are earliest indo europeans in the British isles?

    • @MilesianPaul
      @MilesianPaul 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      old europeans

    • @ilfurlano1228
      @ilfurlano1228 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      BellBeakers were a IndoEuropean speaking people derived from Western Corded Ware. They were the first Indo-European in the British Isles.

    • @kiddykitsune8158
      @kiddykitsune8158 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Generally the consensus is Early Bell Beakers are Old European and later Bell Beakers are the transition to IE. We dont know if it was gradual, or sudden.

    • @Tamir-Barkahan
      @Tamir-Barkahan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They were the first wave of Indo-European speakers in Western Europe.

  • @skullybros8733
    @skullybros8733 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing video! May I ask how come Ireland's English after 1920s became weaker? I don't think English in Ireland became less popular and instead should be the opposite.

    • @user-do4dn6fs4x
      @user-do4dn6fs4x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Irish was proclaimed as national language of Ireland, so it serves all government functions along with English. Map shows the change of official status, even sacrificing of reflecting decline of everyday use.

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you very much. Irish became the official language of the newly formed Irish State

  • @user-wu3ii6dk9e
    @user-wu3ii6dk9e 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pls Do History of Oto Manguean languages

  • @Quareque
    @Quareque 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Did these substrates left at least some traces on the Celtic languages of Britain?
    Some words maybe?

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Some believe that he left some toponyms, mainly of rivers

    • @Quareque
      @Quareque 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CostasMelas Can you give me one example of a river that is supposedly was named by the speakers of these "substrates" and not celts?

    • @Quareque
      @Quareque 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CostasMelas And so?
      Can someone give me a placename in Britain that is certainly not celtic or english?
      Or can someone give me an example of a word in celtic languages that is supposedly from these substrates?
      Or the speakers of these "substrates" didn't have many words or didn't have enough creativity on naming something?

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hydronymies with prefix alm- or sal-. There are some in Britain

    • @Quareque
      @Quareque 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CostasMelas But what exact river?

  • @xXxSkyViperxXx
    @xXxSkyViperxXx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i wonder if Old English could've been split to Old Anglian and Old Saxon as well before merging or subsuming each other into Old English

    • @argentphoenix11
      @argentphoenix11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Old English was pretty much already a dialect continuum, stretching from West Saxon in the south to Anglo-Frisian in the north. Anglo Frisian became English and Scots, while West Saxon became Yola, Fingallian and a substrate to modern dialects in Southwest England.

    • @xXxSkyViperxXx
      @xXxSkyViperxXx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@argentphoenix11 was the West Saxon dialect descended from Old Saxon or the Anglic branch of Anglo-Frisian? If it is the latter, were they basically the descendants of Anglians that used to live in Lower Saxony? kinda like the speakers of East Frisian today but under the Frisian branch

    • @argentphoenix11
      @argentphoenix11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's unsure where Old Saxon and Old Frisian and Old English sit in relation to each other, but the dialects of the south west feature some grammar that bears similarity to Old Saxon more than Old Frisian, namely using "Be" in place of "Is", as well as some vocabulary, like "Ek/Ik" rather than "I". It was likely a Saxon-Anglian hybrid language, forming due to the fact that the two languages were already so similar, sort of how Northumbrian is very highly influenced by Old Norse. I should know, a Westsaxon bis ek!@@xXxSkyViperxXx

    • @xXxSkyViperxXx
      @xXxSkyViperxXx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@argentphoenix11 i recently read up a little on it. did the alfredian early west saxon get replaced or diluted by the winchester standard? that must've been more anglian? and then later the east midlands english that gave way to middle english to present was of the mercian descent?

    • @argentphoenix11
      @argentphoenix11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Essentially. Unsure about Alfredian vs Winchester, but Middle English was unrelated to West Saxon beyond Old English.
      Interestingly, there are a few words in English Proper that can be seen as loans from West Saxon, for example the word "Horse". West Saxon has a tendency to make it so that any rhotic R preceeding a vowel is switched, so the rhotic R is always syllable final. This happened to old English "Hross", becoming "Horse" or "Orse" in West Saxon, and replacing Anglian "Hross/Ross".@@xXxSkyViperxXx

  • @prusentums2407
    @prusentums2407 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why is flevoland in the map since 2500 BC?

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It was difficult to change the coastline in map over time

    • @prusentums2407
      @prusentums2407 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I see, don't worry about it

    • @VW-Gaming18
      @VW-Gaming18 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CostasMelas you put frisian in noord oost polder, but they always spoke dutch or dutch low saxon

  • @bluemym1nd
    @bluemym1nd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does that last bit of the Atlantic Substrate in Scotland have a name?

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It probably has a role in differentiating of the Pictish from the rest of the Brythonic languages

    • @bluemym1nd
      @bluemym1nd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@CostasMelas yeah, I can definitely see that. I just found it very similar to Eteocretan from your Greece video and though it had some cool eteo- name

  • @norielgames4765
    @norielgames4765 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do we have samples of those substrates?

  • @ramirosotto
    @ramirosotto 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    An Idea for a video: Communist States worlwide: Every Year (strictly marxist-leninist one-party states)

  • @tonyjesus1657
    @tonyjesus1657 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What happened in the last few seconds when Irish expanded into Northern Ireland ? Did I miss something in the news?

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Irish became co-official in Northern Ireland in 2022

  • @markaxworthy2508
    @markaxworthy2508 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would suggest that the 2024 map greatly underestimates the place of English in Ireland, Wales and Scotland. Overwhelmingly all three speak closely related dialects of English that are fully mutually comprehensible, while there is not a single monolingual speaker of any of the Celtic languages left.

    • @user-do4dn6fs4x
      @user-do4dn6fs4x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That is problem of the concept of linguistic mapping at all. As it seems to me, of course. Map works with borders and limits of spreading, but it is much harder to show differences of prestigious and unprestigious functions of languages in the same area. Also, there is relatively easy to demonstrate changes of limits of language areal in pace of centuries, but actual changes (I mean, in recent decades) can be shown in percents and statistical regions, but it rarely in "traditional" for mapping manner.

  • @Edarnon_Brodie
    @Edarnon_Brodie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bruh, Pictish were created before our era, not in 200 AD

  • @GuilhermeGomes-bo2tg
    @GuilhermeGomes-bo2tg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cornish disappeared totally?! I heard there are still communities that talk that language

  • @viveleroi4214
    @viveleroi4214 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Evidentemente muchos ingleses y británicos no son capaces de entender que el latín tuvo una amplia influencia en su lenguaje.
    En los comentarios se refleja eso.
    Buen trabajo CostaMelas.

  • @miniongamer06
    @miniongamer06 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Can you do a video about Jewish languages every year? (Hebrew, Judeo-Aramaic, Kayla, Qwara, Yiddish, Ladino, Bukharian, and other Jewish dialects of different languages).

  • @user-xo1jh3xh9p
    @user-xo1jh3xh9p 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey can you make a video about Iranic languages in EUROPE! I know that you have made such a video, but can you make it in European continent? In Europe there were a lot of Iranic languages, such as: Cimmerian, Pontic Scythian, Sarmatian, Alanian, Ossetian, Ibero-Alanian, Jasz, Jazyg, British Sarmatian(8000 Sarmatian soldiers who were sent by Roman Empire) and etc.

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    1100 likes and 0 dislikes.

  • @BernasLL
    @BernasLL 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "The Atlantic languages of Semitic or "Semitidic" (para-Semitic) origin are a disputed concept in historical linguistics put forward by Theo Vennemann. He proposed that Semitic-language-speakers occupied regions in Europe thousands of years ago and influenced the later European languages that are not part of the Semitic family. The theory has found no notable acceptance among linguists or other relevant scholars and is criticised as being based on sparse and often-misinterpreted data."

  • @Edarnon_Brodie
    @Edarnon_Brodie 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Actually, a very good video with great dates (except for Pictish), but also with a it wrond modern era languages. Like, we can't see Scottish Gaelic good in Hybrid Isles, but we should, and also the complete lack of Cornish. But still, this video helped me in my Pictish language article)

  • @Lemons_1
    @Lemons_1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Why did you use the coastlines of modern day britain in times where it was different. (Im talking about Doggerland)

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The same for the Dutch coast. It was difficult to change the coastline over time

    • @Lemons_1
      @Lemons_1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Okay i understand, i guess it's not super important, except for the spread of languages in the beginning. The video was very good for the rest tho.@@CostasMelas

  • @Guerillalilla
    @Guerillalilla 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A sad story😢

  • @EdricoftheWeald
    @EdricoftheWeald 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good to see a reconstruction that divides P from Q rather than the nonsense Insular/Continental model. Also good to see an early entry of Proto-Celtic, since we know at least the Halstadt culture, and so probably the Urnfield culture too, must have spoken Proto-Celtic or at least a predecessor Indo-European language--yet many models consider Celtic to have entered Britain a century or two before Caesar (nonsense!)

  • @raulrossi9735
    @raulrossi9735 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love this Video! Please we need Indigenous language from America

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you

  • @MaxTom10
    @MaxTom10 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Normandy rush England in 1066 🗿🍷

  • @randomguy-tg7ok
    @randomguy-tg7ok 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    (Insert comment about modern land shape here)

  • @Toirdealbhach-na-dTreabha
    @Toirdealbhach-na-dTreabha 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All this beautiful Celtic in the British isles because of a bunch of chads on reed boats in the English Channel in 1639 BC

  • @oussamatalha1903
    @oussamatalha1903 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    do please languages in Morocco

  • @juanmartin2930
    @juanmartin2930 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    sad story

  • @noahtylerpritchett2682
    @noahtylerpritchett2682 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Proud to descend from the English

    • @vichyvilar
      @vichyvilar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We expected nothing less from a descendant of plundering pirates 🏴‍☠

    • @noahtylerpritchett2682
      @noahtylerpritchett2682 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@vichyvilar technically my ancestors were priests, slavers, cowboys or soldiers in my genealogy, not pirates.
      Unless we meant the Vikings

    • @based4560
      @based4560 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Good, be proud of your heritage

    • @pgbrytbackup8646
      @pgbrytbackup8646 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vichyvilar If you're not descended from plunderers you're descended from murderers or some other assortment of thievery

  • @bernardmolloy6241
    @bernardmolloy6241 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for this.
    This video certainly does match a lot of the existing narrative of the development of various languages in Britain + Ireland from the very early Bronze Age whereby many linguists would agree.
    However it is far too simplistic with there being other pieces of evidence from linguistic, dna + archaeological evidence which points to other lost linguistic connections between Britain + Ireland to the Iberian Peninsula, the Mediterranean + Scandinavia from the Bronze Age.
    Also Irish + Welsh Mythology, Folklore + its Literature Traditions for so long have been ignored, but they too also scream out to again point to other lost influences again from the Iberian Peninsula, the Mediterranean + Scandinavia from the Bronze Age.
    There is more + more evidence that in Bronze Age, there was a unique + Coastal trade right along Europes coasts from the Baltic, to Scandinavia, to Britain + Ireland, to the Iberian Peninsula, to the Mediterranean + right up to the East Mediterranean, to the trade of Amber, Copper + Bronze, with a huge Collapse then in approx 1200BCE (“Bronze Age Collapse”). To me, this era would have had several linguistic influences on Britain + Ireland, which the current linguistic model doesnt account for.
    I do think eventually a day will come, when there is enough evidence to show that the Celtic languages of Britain + Ireland are much older than the Iron Age + whereby they were also well established from the Bronze Age, having linguistic links in the Bronze Age with the Iberian Peninsula + Scandinavia.
    Yes Scandinavia. That in the Bronze Age, Scandinavia had pockets of Celtic Speaking peoples. There is literature and accounts which speak of Celtic languages once being spoken in parts of Scandinavia.
    The theory that the first real Scandinavian peoples to come to Britain + Ireland, were the Vikings of the 900s + Anglo-Saxon-Jutes to Eastern England just before that, just doesnt make sense, when there is lotsa evidence of Scandinavians having being trading with Britain + Ireland + the Mediterranean, in the Bronze Age, with several archaeological finds of Amber in exchange for Copper + Tin to then be brought back to Scandinavia for the Nordic Bronze Age.
    Regarding Scotland, I personally think it is highly unlikely that any form of P-Celtic (Pictish / Brythonic etc) was ever spoken in Western Scotland, with that area always having spoke a Q-Celtic form, from when Celtic languages first arrived (in the Bronze Age). The Romans for one did write of Western Caledonia having spoken a different harsher language form

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for the additional information and the very interesting text

  • @jennifersiagian
    @jennifersiagian 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gen 11:1 11-7 Zep 3:9

  • @ProductofWit
    @ProductofWit 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Flemish Dutch under Francophone occupation. You know more than most Flemish. There is some truth to it lol.

  • @xdgamer2765
    @xdgamer2765 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m sorry, british neolithic?

  • @user-iu8bj7iu3i
    @user-iu8bj7iu3i 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm English speaker

    • @based4560
      @based4560 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So am I

  • @enriquecalvonavarro1955
    @enriquecalvonavarro1955 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Rest in peace, Latin of Britania ☠️💀
    Imagine what history would be like if the United Kingdom were part of the Roman brothers and this nation also continued to be catholic (🇵🇹🇪🇦🇫🇷🇧🇪🇮🇹🇸🇲🇲🇹🇷🇴🇻🇦✝️⛪)

    • @based4560
      @based4560 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If only people made the right decisions.

    • @RobairtO-Dhoilingta-n16420
      @RobairtO-Dhoilingta-n16420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ireland is Catholic too 🇮🇪

    • @enriquecalvonavarro1955
      @enriquecalvonavarro1955 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@RobairtO-Dhoilingta-n16420 Yess Bro, LOVE Catholic Ireland from Spain!!! Ireland (or better called Hibernia 😉) is an awesome and beautiful nation!!!! 🇪🇦✝️♥️🇮🇪✝️🇻🇦

  • @ofaoilleachain
    @ofaoilleachain หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Celtic Isles

  • @JY-pl2nc
    @JY-pl2nc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇮🇪
    Decline about Irish, Scottish Gaelic, Welsh.....
    Da luan, Da mort, Da luan, Da mort, Da luan, Da mort, agus Da Cadine.
    (Monday, Tuesday, Monday, Tuesday, Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.)

    • @RobairtO-Dhoilingta-n16420
      @RobairtO-Dhoilingta-n16420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      dé lúan dé mairt dé chéadaoin dé deardaoin agus dé haoine

  • @CeilingCatMSM
    @CeilingCatMSM 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Scotland looks like plaid

  • @user-cn8cz3qz6z
    @user-cn8cz3qz6z 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is no evidence to suggest that the language spoken by the Bell-Beakers was a non-Celtic one, and that Celtic was later introduced. Due to the lack of European substrate loan words in British Celtic languages, and the presence of pre-European language substrates, the most logical explanation is that the Bell Beaker one was a Celtic language itself. This is further reinforced by a lack of shift in the archaeological record coinciding with the supposed later arrival date of the Celts. Furthermore, the split between Insular (British and Irish) and continental (Gallic) Celtic is too grand to have occurred in such a small time frame as proposed by the later arrival date of Celtic in the Isles; the earlier arrival date of the Bell Beakers is again, a more parsimonious explanation.

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The arrival of Bell Beaker in Britain seems much earlier than the spread of Indo-European so far west. It is therefore likely to be related to a non-Indo-European language

    • @user-cn8cz3qz6z
      @user-cn8cz3qz6z 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CostasMelas I have never seen a theory that states that the Bell-Beakers are non-IE. I find that very confusing, and to be in blatant contradiction with the genetic and archaeological evidence showing Bell Beakers to be the Western off-shoot of Corded Ware culture. Could you tell me what sources led you to this conclusion?

    • @RichardEdwards40
      @RichardEdwards40 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@CostasMelasnonsense. bell beakers were indo europeans. Where do you get your strange fringe theories from??

  • @Desfighter1
    @Desfighter1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1201 is the saddest year in history
    the death of cumbric language 😭😭😭

    • @Quarequieus
      @Quarequieus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why did you change "CUMbric" on "cumbric"?

    • @hieratics
      @hieratics 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can it be revived like Cornish?

    • @egbront1506
      @egbront1506 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hieratics No written legacy. All we have are placenames, so no.

  • @Tolievis
    @Tolievis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Latin isn't romance, it's italic.

  • @user-nb1pf3gd4z
    @user-nb1pf3gd4z 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alas! English minimised territories of Celtic languages.

  • @MistrumGenderplasma
    @MistrumGenderplasma 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Second

  • @blu9700
    @blu9700 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coastlines are not entirely accurate for their respective time periods

    • @based4560
      @based4560 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wait would the coastlines be larger or smaller back then?

    • @blu9700
      @blu9700 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depends on the time period the North sea coastline has changed alot of the years@@based4560

  • @genghisthegreat2034
    @genghisthegreat2034 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There aren't " British Isles ". There's Britannia and Hibernia, it was simple enough for the Romans, ought to be comprehensible for everyone else too.

  • @patricka.crawley6572
    @patricka.crawley6572 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The 'English'...the last of the British settlers.
    The Celts are the original British.

  • @Macion-sm2ui
    @Macion-sm2ui 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I thought that modern Ireland speaks almost only english

    • @buurmeisje
      @buurmeisje 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It does

  • @MrNTF-vi2qc
    @MrNTF-vi2qc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    No Arabic in London?

  • @mashiah1
    @mashiah1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Same video in 2054 - English is replaced by Arabic and Urdu

  • @pas1994ok
    @pas1994ok 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its so sad to see how those Germanic invaders destroyed the Celtic languages

    • @based4560
      @based4560 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Free Celtistan

    • @buurmeisje
      @buurmeisje 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's glorious

    • @quakeknight9680
      @quakeknight9680 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And now all of them are being replaced by groupes of people who aren't even from Europe.

    • @danki-duck
      @danki-duck 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Eve more sad is AngloSaxons being replaced by them darn Normans anddestroying the old english language

    • @RichardEdwards40
      @RichardEdwards40 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      its the celts that chose to adopt not only the germanic language but even germanic pagan religion lol

  • @johanea
    @johanea 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bet Arabic is the leading language very very soon…

    • @dude926
      @dude926 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well Muslims don't speak Arabic only arabs

  • @RomaAeternaetAmericaAeterna
    @RomaAeternaetAmericaAeterna 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We need the "Languages of Russia, Central and North Asia" video. 🙏

  • @sumer4823
    @sumer4823 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    first!!!

  • @aleksandarvil5718
    @aleksandarvil5718 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    2025 AD : Arabic

    • @deproco
      @deproco 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      what a boring joke

    • @jmiquelmb
      @jmiquelmb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      We get it Muslims scare you there’s no need to say it all the time

    • @xXxSkyViperxXx
      @xXxSkyViperxXx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      marmalade men and the shahreya law

    • @user-mz8in4dq3b
      @user-mz8in4dq3b 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      *Urdu