For those of you that are having to replace the cartridge every 6 months or so, there is a commercial replacement available. It's the 1222HD. From what I have heard, they last much longer. Also, for those having trouble removing the old cartridge, Moen says to turn the valve stem until the cut off notch in the stem is facing up. Also, for those that have a leaking shower when it is turned off, another thing to check is the water pressure. The pressure reducing valve on some well systems can fail, causing excessive water pressure (100 psi) instead of more reasonable pressure around 60 - 65 psi. Hopefully this helps.
Great video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. What has worked for me is to tie the clip with some thread or thin wire and I tape it to the wall. That way, I make sure that the clip doesn't fall inside the wall. Also, I used to have to replace our cartridge every couple of years until someone at Moen's customer service suggested to brush the interior of the copper pipe with a wire brush. I didn't have a wire brush, so I really brushed it thoroughly with a toothbrush. Then, I had my daughter hold a bucket against the wall against the opening and opened the water main for a second to make sure any debris is flushed out. This was a decade ago and we haven't had a leak since.
Had both my showers need replacement at same time. Plumber wanted $450 to repair. Each part was $30 and cartridge puller tool was $20. DIY $80 and next time I don’t have to buy puller. Great video!!
Excellent video! I put my cartridge in and it wasn’t going all the way in. I looked at my old one and saw that the plastic had broken off inside the valve. I had to take a screw driver and hammer and gently break it off. Success!! No more jammed faucet
Great video, thank you so much. First time doing this fix by myself....a few hiccups (SUPER stuck cartridge), but I got it and there is no more annoying drip. Feeling accomplished today!
Great video. I have the same shower head and cartridge as depicted in this video. Took 3 trips to Lowes to get what I needed but the shower is working great. The handle turns much easier, as you stated in the video. Thanks.
Thanks a ton! Followed all the steps and realized i had wrong cartridge. I cleaned existing one, put it back and voilla! No more dripping! Didn’t only save me plumber visit charge but also on replacement!
Mate one of the most important video on TH-cam about this matter. You helped me replaced my with easy watching your video. High quality production, super easy to understanding you explain everything. Super awesome job and big thank you saved me $150 not calling a plumper with labor and parts. 🍻
I wish my leak was this simple. My cartridge was leaking behind my wall for a year or two. I figured it out when my drywall started molding. Replaced the cartridge. That leak is gone, but the tub faucet sill drips.
i have replaced a new moen carriage 1222, but it still leaking ,drop every 3 seconds, the side black rubber or plastic pad dropped and parted, should I use ca glue bond it?
That "White Piece" you referred to isnt a cartridge inserter. Its a cartridge remover. You place it over the cartridge (like you did) then grab it with a wrench and slowly rotate it back and forth from 11 to 1 O'clock. The copper ridge that the Remover sits against is curved so as you rotate, the cartridge rotates and extrudes at the same time. Also, its worth noting that the tips of the Retainer Pin may need to be pushed backwards as you seat the clip.
I just replaced the cartridge via plumber because he tried to take the old one out when he was starting a new pipe in place and the old one broke . tested it while he was here multiple times works fine . Use the shower four hours later and when I turn it off I get tripping that stops within two minutes that didn't happen before . And then every minute or so I get drip drip drip drip drip drip drip nine and I'm in total then it stopped. waited an hour came back still leaking I have a bucket under there now it's up to 11 drops . Wait in our Nata 15 . Is the new cartridge that order something else going on any ideas?
What if you replace the cartridge and the faucet still has a tiny stream of water coming out? Tried a new 1222hd and traded with one from a shower in basement that didn't leak at all. Both cartridges work fine with no faucet leak when used in basement shower.
Mines been leaking at a rental unit for 8 years and I wasn’t aware. Looking to fix it finally this week. I can only imagine how much water has been wasted 🤦🏽♂️
I know what you mean I started renting a place 6 months ago and quickly realized the tub was leaking. I let the landlord know right away. He seemed surprised and said he would have someone out soon. I reminded him a month later after not hearing anything, he just reminded me the landlord covers the water bill. So I just let it leak all day 24/7 on cold water so it doesn't affect the hot water heater.
There is an off-brand replacement that fits fine for this but from what I've seen in the reviews, it's less reliable than the Moen brand. These should last at least a few years - I wonder if there's an issue with your water pressure or something else - that seems really frequent.
trying to remove my cartridge, not sure if its a moen or not.. Don't see a name brand, i can make out a J04 on the cartridge stem, (flat spot) when i try to remove it it only pulls out 1/2 inch, and thoughts or ideas? don't want to apply any more pressure as it doesn't seem like it wants to go any further.. and ideas? Or time to call the plumber lol... thanks
Hi, thanks for the video! Attempting this for the first time. If I have trouble, let's say I realize I have the wrong cartridge, and need to come back to it late, do I have to put the old one back on and close it all back up in order to turn my water on again? I have a shower only set up.
It depends. If your main water line is off and you just need to run to the store for a new cartridge, that’s fine. But if you need your water to work again, you’ll need to reinstall the old one in the mean time.
So one thing that a lot of these videos miss is that there is a tool to help pull the cartridge out. A lot of times the cartridges will not come out easy and the tool provides the leverage.
I have changed my cartridge before, a little over a year ago. I'm trying to do it now and I can't pull the stop sleeve out. It is stuck like it's welded. I've tried tapping it and sprayed with pb blaster but still stuck. Any tricks??
Do you mean it drips from the shower? Or the handle? In either case, it sounds like something wasn't sealed or properly connected. If your home is still under warranty then I'd get someone out to take a look. It's also possible to have faulty cartridges but that's less common.
If you still have a leak after putting a new cartridge in, it may be due to corroded metal parts (which could be anywhere in the faucet system) or there may be other gaskets or rings in the system that need replacing. It's tricky to identify without a thorough look at it.
While replacing the cartridge will usually solve the problem, sometimes there’s more to it. I don’t think I can say it any better than the guys at Swan Plumbing in Denver. Here’s their advice: “First, the leak may not have been caused by a faulty cartridge. Water is full of calcium and other minerals that make it highly corrosive. Over time, the water can eat away at imperfections in the brass body of the faucet. These imperfections often occur during the casting process. Small bumps and soft spots in the brass can wear away. This allows rivulets to form in the brass. You may not even realize that they are there since they can blend in with the coatings on the brass created by the water. When fixing a cartridge faucet, it is a good idea to buff the inside of the cylinder. This will leave a dark line that will allow you to see the rivulets with a flashlight. Your faucet may contain a ceramic, brass, or rubber seat that is meant to form a seal at the bottom of the cartridge opening. The seat can become damaged with use so that it no longer fits correctly into the hole in the cartridge, which allows water to leak. The O-ring may also become cracked and cause a leak. The best rule of thumb is to replace all of the inside parts of a faucet at the same time so that you get a good seal.” Best of luck and hopefully you get to the bottom of it!
This little th-cam.com/users/postUgkxVoi3B4CB6Oygq1-vo4OTL1M_M5JkrXif tub works perfect in our 6 x 6 shower and is easy to get in and out. Also easy to drain.
OK, so now that you know that the cartridge is good, there are many other parts to consider, including o-rings, valves and the faucet itself. In this thread, some advice about cleaning out the inside of the valve, as well as a few other issues that folks have found, which could help you out in your situation. diy.stackexchange.com/questions/5065/how-can-i-fix-a-moen-faucet-that-is-still-leaking-after-replacing-cartridge Best of luck!
You know, you’re absolutely right. I just checked here (www.moen.com/warranties/general-lifetime-limited-warranty) and they do state that. They typically require a proof of purchase but if you have that it’s definitely worth looking into it.
For those of you that are having to replace the cartridge every 6 months or so, there is a commercial replacement available. It's the 1222HD. From what I have heard, they last much longer.
Also, for those having trouble removing the old cartridge, Moen says to turn the valve stem until the cut off notch in the stem is facing up. Also, for those that have a leaking shower when it is turned off, another thing to check is the water pressure. The pressure reducing valve on some well systems can fail, causing excessive water pressure (100 psi) instead of more reasonable pressure around 60 - 65 psi. Hopefully this helps.
This video literally just saved me over $500 on a weekend emergency call. My shower wouldn’t shut off, thanks for this great video!
Great video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
What has worked for me is to tie the clip with some thread or thin wire and I tape it to the wall. That way, I make sure that the clip doesn't fall inside the wall.
Also, I used to have to replace our cartridge every couple of years until someone at Moen's customer service suggested to brush the interior of the copper pipe with a wire brush.
I didn't have a wire brush, so I really brushed it thoroughly with a toothbrush. Then, I had my daughter hold a bucket against the wall against the opening and opened the water main for a second to make sure any debris is flushed out. This was a decade ago and we haven't had a leak since.
Having this video for this type of faucet was incredibly valuable for filling in gaps in the standard manufacturer instructions. Thanks so much.
Plumber wanted 1200 dollars to fix my leaky faucet...didn't sound right. Very angry. Thank you for the knowledge.
Had both my showers need replacement at same time. Plumber wanted $450 to repair. Each part was $30 and cartridge puller tool was $20. DIY $80 and next time I don’t have to buy puller. Great video!!
Very timely for me. 😀 Mine is actually leaking when it is running but from the handle, not the faucet. Thanks so much for making this seem doable!
Great repair video. Well done. Clear and Step by step. Thank you! Exactly what I needed.
Excellent video! I put my cartridge in and it wasn’t going all the way in. I looked at my old one and saw that the plastic had broken off inside the valve. I had to take a screw driver and hammer and gently break it off. Success!! No more jammed faucet
Thank you for such a detailed video. I was able to save a lot of money by doing this myself. God Bless.
Really Amazing video. I was doing this for the first time and had no experience with plumbing. But it was easy to follow and I was able to fix it.
Great video, thank you so much. First time doing this fix by myself....a few hiccups (SUPER stuck cartridge), but I got it and there is no more annoying drip. Feeling accomplished today!
That’s awesome! Way to stick with it and get it done!
Did you end up using the tool to get it out? Mine won’t budge:/
I’m 6 ft 240 and yolked and almost pulled the whole valve out of the wall I don’t know what to do lol
Perfect video, exactly what I needed. Great detail, not excessive. Thank you!
Great video. I have the same shower head and cartridge as depicted in this video. Took 3 trips to Lowes to get what I needed but the shower is working great. The handle turns much easier, as you stated in the video. Thanks.
Thank you ever so much for this video! Great instructions - I am not handy whatsoever and was able to replace my cartridge with the aid of your video!
Thanks!
Thanks a ton! Followed all the steps and realized i had wrong cartridge. I cleaned existing one, put it back and voilla! No more dripping! Didn’t only save me plumber visit charge but also on replacement!
thanks for this i went from 50% confidence to 100% confidence i could do it by watching this.
Awesome video. Very good, clear, step by step instructions. Thank you!
This and another video saved me hundreds and a headache and all I did was spend 60$ to fix it myself i heavy leaked at that
I tied a long piece of ribbon to the pin. Before removing the pin, I pull the ribbon out and leave it outside the wall in case I drop the pin.
Mate one of the most important video on TH-cam about this matter. You helped me replaced my with easy watching your video. High quality production, super easy to understanding you explain everything. Super awesome job and big thank you saved me $150 not calling a plumper with labor and parts. 🍻
So glad it was helpful!
Just got it done for $149. Wonder if I could have done it myself.
Excellent instructions!
That is what I call a good plumber
My name is Andrei thank you so much for this video...very useful
Thanks a lot for your very useful video. I saved plumber cost .
Amazing video. Thank so much for your help!
I replaced the cartridge but still have a small leak. I was told the spout itself could be the issue. What do you think? Thanks
Unfortunately, that could be the case. It could even be elsewhere inside the manifold. These can get tricky when you've got a stubborn leak like that.
Help! I replaced my 1222 cartridge but my shower is dripping worse than before! How can I fix it?
Excellent video, thanks you.
great vid.... couldn't get Moen replacement parts they sold Danco.... Lowes.... is anyone having a problem with those?
Do you look for the part # before hand , or you carry bunch?
Great video. Thank you
Very nice and detail video.
I wish my leak was this simple. My cartridge was leaking behind my wall for a year or two. I figured it out when my drywall started molding. Replaced the cartridge. That leak is gone, but the tub faucet sill drips.
i have replaced a new moen carriage 1222, but it still leaking ,drop every 3 seconds, the side black rubber or plastic pad dropped and parted, should I use ca glue bond it?
Fantastic content 👌 👏 👍
That "White Piece" you referred to isnt a cartridge inserter. Its a cartridge remover. You place it over the cartridge (like you did) then grab it with a wrench and slowly rotate it back and forth from 11 to 1 O'clock. The copper ridge that the Remover sits against is curved so as you rotate, the cartridge rotates and extrudes at the same time. Also, its worth noting that the tips of the Retainer Pin may need to be pushed backwards as you seat the clip.
I'm not sure if you read these comments, but what do you do if the contractors that built the house stripped the set/locking screw?
I just replaced the cartridge via plumber because he tried to take the old one out when he was starting a new pipe in place and the old one broke . tested it while he was here multiple times works fine . Use the shower four hours later and when I turn it off I get tripping that stops within two minutes that didn't happen before . And then every minute or so I get drip drip drip drip drip drip drip nine and I'm in total then it stopped. waited an hour came back still leaking I have a bucket under there now it's up to 11 drops . Wait in our Nata 15 . Is the new cartridge that order something else going on any ideas?
Can I still replace it if I don’t shut off the water supply?
Can you make a video for fixing a leaking faucet with three handles(one for hot, one for cold and one for shower)
What if you replace the cartridge and the faucet still has a tiny stream of water coming out? Tried a new 1222hd and traded with one from a shower in basement that didn't leak at all. Both cartridges work fine with no faucet leak when used in basement shower.
OBRIGADA 🙏🏼 thanks for the videos, for shore, it will help somebody🔧💰
Obrigado por assistir! Espero que este vídeo ajude alguém!
Thank you for the instructions.
Nice video! i did a valve replacement and now when water runs out the spout i get dripping from shower head too
us too. Wondering what the fix is
Thanks, I’m working on this over the weekend
Good video ... thanks!
Thank you so much for this awesome video
Mines been leaking at a rental unit for 8 years and I wasn’t aware. Looking to fix it finally this week. I can only imagine how much water has been wasted 🤦🏽♂️
I know what you mean I started renting a place 6 months ago and quickly realized the tub was leaking. I let the landlord know right away. He seemed surprised and said he would have someone out soon. I reminded him a month later after not hearing anything, he just reminded me the landlord covers the water bill. So I just let it leak all day 24/7 on cold water so it doesn't affect the hot water heater.
Great video. I have two Moens. So I have to do this every 6 months. Is their a better cartridge then the Moen ones?
There is an off-brand replacement that fits fine for this but from what I've seen in the reviews, it's less reliable than the Moen brand. These should last at least a few years - I wonder if there's an issue with your water pressure or something else - that seems really frequent.
@@LRN2DIY They last about a year, but because I have two, they seem to be 6 months apart. Sometimes Moen will send me a replacement one.
good job , great video
Thank you
Super helpful
Bruhh I have the same tub and this was the first hit on your video. I'll make a video also if my Mohen is different.
Why do you think this happens? I've had to replace the cartridge in my shower twice since in the past couple years.
Great tutorial.
We're experiencing that the faucet is still leaking after replacing the cartridge. Any advice for that? The faucet is only a couple years old
Mine also
Very helpful. Thanks!
Moen quality baby... After five years on our new house, we've had a Moen kitchen faucet and two Moen showers fail.
trying to remove my cartridge, not sure if its a moen or not.. Don't see a name brand, i can make out a J04 on the cartridge stem, (flat spot) when i try to remove it it only pulls out 1/2 inch, and thoughts or ideas? don't want to apply any more pressure as it doesn't seem like it wants to go any further.. and ideas? Or time to call the plumber lol... thanks
They can be super stubborn. You’ll probably want to buy/order a cartridge puller to remove it.
Hey Nylz, I can’t seem to find the cartridge part number when I search online. Is the 1222 the number that’s inside the cartridge?
thank you so much such a help it is perfect
Hi, thanks for the video! Attempting this for the first time. If I have trouble, let's say I realize I have the wrong cartridge, and need to come back to it late, do I have to put the old one back on and close it all back up in order to turn my water on again? I have a shower only set up.
It depends. If your main water line is off and you just need to run to the store for a new cartridge, that’s fine. But if you need your water to work again, you’ll need to reinstall the old one in the mean time.
So one thing that a lot of these videos miss is that there is a tool to help pull the cartridge out. A lot of times the cartridges will not come out easy and the tool provides the leverage.
Nice work! 👍 Keep it up
Great! Thanks.
I have changed my cartridge before, a little over a year ago. I'm trying to do it now and I can't pull the stop sleeve out. It is stuck like it's welded. I've tried tapping it and sprayed with pb blaster but still stuck. Any tricks??
Sounds like you need the cartridge puller tool. They'll be able to get it out. amzn.to/3eKBHBL
I have changed my cartridge twice now. Is there any other reason why my faucet is leaking?
What if the it all was new and some water comes out when tub is filling.
Do you mean it drips from the shower? Or the handle? In either case, it sounds like something wasn't sealed or properly connected. If your home is still under warranty then I'd get someone out to take a look. It's also possible to have faulty cartridges but that's less common.
I got the screw out but the handle won’t come off.
Any idea why the new moen cartridge also leaking?
If you still have a leak after putting a new cartridge in, it may be due to corroded metal parts (which could be anywhere in the faucet system) or there may be other gaskets or rings in the system that need replacing. It's tricky to identify without a thorough look at it.
what if it's still leaking after changing the cartridge?
While replacing the cartridge will usually solve the problem, sometimes there’s more to it. I don’t think I can say it any better than the guys at Swan Plumbing in Denver. Here’s their advice:
“First, the leak may not have been caused by a faulty cartridge. Water is full of calcium and other minerals that make it highly corrosive. Over time, the water can eat away at imperfections in the brass body of the faucet. These imperfections often occur during the casting process. Small bumps and soft spots in the brass can wear away. This allows rivulets to form in the brass. You may not even realize that they are there since they can blend in with the coatings on the brass created by the water. When fixing a cartridge faucet, it is a good idea to buff the inside of the cylinder. This will leave a dark line that will allow you to see the rivulets with a flashlight.
Your faucet may contain a ceramic, brass, or rubber seat that is meant to form a seal at the bottom of the cartridge opening. The seat can become damaged with use so that it no longer fits correctly into the hole in the cartridge, which allows water to leak. The O-ring may also become cracked and cause a leak. The best rule of thumb is to replace all of the inside parts of a faucet at the same time so that you get a good seal.”
Best of luck and hopefully you get to the bottom of it!
@@LRN2DIY THANK YOU!
Awesome 👏
I just did this on my valve, it leaks worse then before???
You don't have to replace evrytime it leaks. Oftentimes, the handle needs tightening only of those 2 screws.
I have 2 moen showers but one is hard to turn.
This little th-cam.com/users/postUgkxVoi3B4CB6Oygq1-vo4OTL1M_M5JkrXif tub works perfect in our 6 x 6 shower and is easy to get in and out. Also easy to drain.
How you turn on up water ^^^^^
😂😂same exact sound I get. Put a new cartridge and still leaking at the spout😫
We replaced the cartridge but when I turn the handle off the water is still streaming out and take a bit to stop. How do I fix that?
OK, so now that you know that the cartridge is good, there are many other parts to consider, including o-rings, valves and the faucet itself. In this thread, some advice about cleaning out the inside of the valve, as well as a few other issues that folks have found, which could help you out in your situation. diy.stackexchange.com/questions/5065/how-can-i-fix-a-moen-faucet-that-is-still-leaking-after-replacing-cartridge Best of luck!
So I don't need a new cartridge my thing you pull up has broken.
Mine still drips after changing it out.
Problem is , I just replaced the cartridge and the tap is now dripping .
This is what I am trying to sort out. I paid the $45 for the new cartridge and it drips more now that the original one did.
It was my understanding that Moen offers a lifetime warranty on their faucets. Wouldn't a free replacement cartridge be available from them?
You know, you’re absolutely right. I just checked here (www.moen.com/warranties/general-lifetime-limited-warranty) and they do state that. They typically require a proof of purchase but if you have that it’s definitely worth looking into it.
If your faucet is leaking, are you going to wait two weeks for a free one?
Mines a brand new cartridge and I still have a leak
Mine is stuck!
Mine was just replaced because it was broken and now my shower head is leaking
My.cartridge is literally welded on....
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What a disgrace you have to go all through that jus to figure out what part number you need..
Hey rando will you adopt me you look realy handy I think I could use a father like you 🤪please do it I'm begging you please do it😆
I’ll remember those numbers on front facing cartridge in the future. 🤓😎🛁
Thanks!
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