I'm mainly watching this so I can quickly out perform the other skid steer operator on my crew. Because he has a major superiority complex, despite his relatively minimal experience in equipment. Which he's not even that proficient at it, being one of the slower guys on site, whilst also making tons of excess movement. And this is the person that's supposed to be my instructor.
@@raprabbit34 the crew I was on at the time I made my original comment was less than helpful. I’m on a different crew now and they are absolutely willing to teach and answer questions.
Hey boys, its your buddy from the Backhoe video again. You were right, 2021 is my year, what a time to be alive in this minty John Deere Backhoe. Im still stuck facing forward, however its the little challenges in life that define us, ive since eaten most if the rubber flooring and most of the steering wheel. In the words of Nickelback "And they say a Hero an see is, im not going to stand here and wait" to be honest boys, neither can we. In my newly found freedoms ive slept late, played tick tac toe by myself and not had to hear my wife rant about the Christmas tree. Ive also not showered in quite some time, but its ok I hope to develop a way to get diesel out of the fuel tank and lather myself in that. This could be long term boys... I would also like to point out that Randys tie in the last video was absolutely MAJESTIC as a white beach sunrise. how he keeps the ladies off is beyond me, might have to push them away with the backhoe part of the tractor, I suggest watching that video again if you do that, don't be like me. I'll leave with a final quote my great, great, grand paw paw told me, "Sean the difference between a battery and a women is one has a positive side" finer words have never been spoken paw paw. Till the next chapter boys, keep the safety videos rolling.
I found it helps when back blading to have dirt in the bucket an lift the back of the blade with the front on the ground so it'll fill in the low spots an the blade won't go up an down with the ground it'll stay flat. If that makes any sense I'm still learning my self. Great tips an great vid.
@@rubes1688 as long as you don’t get a full bucket you should be good he’s talking about just giving the bucket a slight tilt to apply more force to the area being back dragged, you’re able to apply more weight when tilting the bucket down
Great video! I wish I had videos 20 years ago. I learned how to operate a skid steer by letting the machine beat the crap out of me..🤣 I was handed a set of keys and was told to move a pile of dirt from one area to another, the whole time I was being yelled at for tearing up the job site. My foreman was laughing! At the end of the day he said I did a great job lol and told me the only way you're going to learn is to do it. Needless to say the next morning I felt like I was run over by a skid steer🤣🤣
If I may add, for all you new operators out there.. please do not forgot to put air in the tracks.. that's key, and helps the tracks from popping off. Ask your boss how to do so or friendly coworkers. You're welcome.
Really have been getting into these videos! I just started with the local 138 heavy equipment apprentice program and just getting a jump start on my knowledge ! :)
I had a swimming pool excavating company in California.. I had a 825 Bobcat, a 700 Bobcat, and a 974 Bobcat.. The 974 had a hoe attachment with a 4 foot Digmore extension on it.. I also had a concrete breaker for the machine..
I’m doing a Plant operations Certificate 3(Civil Construction) and the skid steers we get given to train on are JCB’s with big horrible tyres and after watching skid steer instructional TH-cam videos I would much prefer to be trained operating tracked skid steers as they look like they operate much more smoothly and leave less damage(holes when turning!)which is ideal IMHO. Also once you have spread materials/filled/levelled you can raise the empty bucket right up and use the tracks to go forwards/reverse over your final grade to compact down the material
I would argue that learning on a tire machine is much better. If you can learn how to spread and grade evenly, and turn without tearing everything up on a tire machine, the track machine will gravy for new operators
If you are cutting in a driveway on top of grass the one thing I've learned to keep you from creating waves is only take an inch at a time. Dont try to remove too much at one time. That's my little bit of advice for new guys.
I like to back drag a lot to help pack material in faster, but I also don’t ever run a skid steer with tracks so the tires like to squish unpacked material out. One thing to watch for, if you work somewhere with bigger rocks (3” and bigger I’d say) if you get a rock trapped under your bucket, and you back drag, you will just rip out all your material until that rock finally rolls under the bucket or you start going forward again
Instead of dropping the bucket and then tilting it to grade, you should tilt the tip of bucket down a little snd then drop bucket all the way down. Same thing when back dragging. Unless you want to pull dirt back with you as you drag.
I tipped over once when I was new. had to lift a dead tree over a fence and smashed into the ground. Pretty damn scary but it's the best way to learn haha
I spread on low spots driving forward that way i can lower the bucket and back drag utilizing every movement and being a lot more efficient. cutting in like you are doing isn't tamping down as the back dragging makes it much more solid for leveling a Pro would know this.
I’m 16 and after probably 15 minutes in a skid to learn the controls, I graded a site that had ditches for drainage pipes and made it look professionally done by doing nothing but back dragging with the float function
If you only used the float then the grade wasn’t set right, you can make it look pretty but it’s still gots to drain properly if you wanna have a job doing this man
So for you experienced grading experts, is it the same principle as using a box scraper on your Tractor. Leaving your box blade level not tilted but dragging level filling in low spots. However unlike the Tractor the skid loader does not fill in the low spots because the bucket is not spilling dirt forward to drop out. Does this make sense? Thanks.
Big mistake you're making is you fill the low spots but you don't pack it before making another pass so all you're doing is gliding across the packed ground then scooping the material right back out of the low spot you filled in. You're basically chasing your own tail.
I was taught to swivel your head. Also, the BIGGEST mistake I do see is that many operators rely solely on the onboard computer. The newest equipment I operated routinely was 2006 model year and recently I was asked by a buddy who has many pieces of equipment to help him for a few days. I was given strange looks, because I actually got in the engine compartment and visually inspected all levels. One of the workers was trying to explain all about the onboard computer, and I said that "Computers can be programmed to display false information." I was called about 2 days later and was told that 80% of the fleet of equipment was down. The computer on 1 machine said that the hydraulic fluid was full, but in actuality was bone dry A different machine gave an alert for 1 thing, yet something completely different was wrong. Point of the story, Always visually inspect be as a safety precaution.
@@hunterholdsclaw2654 At the end of the day, The operator needs to visually verify that the machine is able to last the duration of the day, regardless of mechanic availability.
@@hunterholdsclaw2654 If you are a tractor trailer driver, you are legally required to complete a "Pre-trip inspection. If something goes bad, the operator is solely responsible.
@@edstevens6839 yes those are laws and pre-trip things, not things that pertain to actually operating the equipment(as in actually driving and controlling the bucket) thought it was pretty clear there’s a difference in the two
@@hunterholdsclaw2654 pre-trip is a part of basically all skid-steer courses. If you work for a company and operate a skid-steer with no engine oil or coolant or any other fluid it’s your fault. So yes, it is related to operating.
does no one operate with the bucket vertically down using the bottom of your bucket blade? And picking the bucket up after a back drag and sitting it back down on top of grade and when you see a low spot flick the stick to throw your dirt smoothly, or is that just me.
The thing with your joysticks if that you want to roll them not Jerk them around because all that does is hurts the machine just roll them nice and slow but in some cases when it is wet outside and you have sticky topsoil or something you can jerk the bucket.
@@HeavyMetalLearning YES thank you so much for agreeing with me you guys teach me so much I am only a 14 year old kid and I have been running machines as long as I can remember and that’s one think that my grandpa tells me to do don’t jerk your sticks! Thank you guys for your time and reading my comments! Have a great week!!!
Without a side tilt feature on a bucket, how does one begin to make a swell, trench, or other angled trench with a ctl? Know what I’m asking? Do I dig and dump, dig and dump, etc. to get one track higher than the other and then drive in that sideways to get the tilt of the trench?? Or, just use an excavator? Thanks!
If you want an angle form that angle by loading one side of the bucket and spread along the swale trench. Use the new material to force the blade to dig one side now. Or you can use the same process on a slope to level it. Like if a track or road has an unwanted camber.
I think you will learn how to control your bucket joy stick better by gently moving it rather than jerking it.. It is a lot easier on the machine and your wrist also.. As you run the machine more you will get a feel for the joy stick and how it makes the bucket react..
I love the john deer skiddy but the only downfall I've come across is the protection for the radiator. When backing up steep grades if any material comes into contact with the fan blade, the blade will throw it right into the radiator and puncture a hole. The cats have a much better design for protection from debris getting into the fan blade. I would still rather grade in a john deer any day over a cat though. Both have their strengths and weaknesses but the deere is much more user friendly when it comes to precision.
I won a bid with a home builder. For debris removal on smalls/fines bedded in the dirt, do I need to use a skid steer? Or is there something else I can use?
I think it sucks grading with a skid steer. I can do it but these days I rent a dozer for the day, worth every penny imho..I feel my finish product is better ….
I'm mainly watching this so I can quickly out perform the other skid steer operator on my crew. Because he has a major superiority complex, despite his relatively minimal experience in equipment. Which he's not even that proficient at it, being one of the slower guys on site, whilst also making tons of excess movement. And this is the person that's supposed to be my instructor.
I have to compliment you on your verbal and visual training skills. And thank you for the tips. Super helpful video.
Heavy equipment learning has helped me use a Kubota Skid Steer, and a mini excavator! Thank you for all the effort you all put in your videos!
Great to hear!
Your videos teach me more than anyone on my jobsite does. Thank you for this awesome resource!
You either don’t ask questions or need a new job buddy
@@raprabbit34 the crew I was on at the time I made my original comment was less than helpful. I’m on a different crew now and they are absolutely willing to teach and answer questions.
Hey boys, its your buddy from the Backhoe video again.
You were right, 2021 is my year, what a time to be alive in this minty John Deere Backhoe.
Im still stuck facing forward, however its the little challenges in life that define us, ive since eaten most if the rubber flooring and most of the steering wheel. In the words of Nickelback "And they say a Hero an see is, im not going to stand here and wait" to be honest boys, neither can we.
In my newly found freedoms ive slept late, played tick tac toe by myself and not had to hear my wife rant about the Christmas tree.
Ive also not showered in quite some time, but its ok I hope to develop a way to get diesel out of the fuel tank and lather myself in that.
This could be long term boys...
I would also like to point out that Randys tie in the last video was absolutely MAJESTIC as a white beach sunrise.
how he keeps the ladies off is beyond me, might have to push them away with the backhoe part of the tractor, I suggest watching that video again if you do that, don't be like me.
I'll leave with a final quote my great, great, grand paw paw told me, "Sean the difference between a battery and a women is one has a positive side" finer words have never been spoken paw paw.
Till the next chapter boys, keep the safety videos rolling.
lmao...NICE
I found it helps when back blading to have dirt in the bucket an lift the back of the blade with the front on the ground so it'll fill in the low spots an the blade won't go up an down with the ground it'll stay flat. If that makes any sense I'm still learning my self. Great tips an great vid.
Won’t it be dropping dirt everywhere not just the low spots?
@@rubes1688 as long as you don’t get a full bucket you should be good he’s talking about just giving the bucket a slight tilt to apply more force to the area being back dragged, you’re able to apply more weight when tilting the bucket down
You knock down your grade then back up with the bucket full. If you do it right you can shoot a game of pool on your grade lol
@@michaelruggiero8284 it's work really good with dirt in the bucket.
Just drove my first skid steer yesterday. It was a blast. Wish the cab was enclosed like this one lol I turned a darker shade of brown.
I love your channel. Thank you so much for sharing and showing how to operate these big old construction machines. I am always fascinated by them.
Use the float function people. Helps a lot.
Worth learning about these skills 👌 . Kudos
Great video! I wish I had videos 20 years ago. I learned how to operate a skid steer by letting the machine beat the crap out of me..🤣 I was handed a set of keys and was told to move a pile of dirt from one area to another, the whole time I was being yelled at for tearing up the job site. My foreman was laughing! At the end of the day he said I did a great job lol and told me the only way you're going to learn is to do it. Needless to say the next morning I felt like I was run over by a skid steer🤣🤣
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If I may add, for all you new operators out there.. please do not forgot to put air in the tracks.. that's key, and helps the tracks from popping off. Ask your boss how to do so or friendly coworkers. You're welcome.
If they don't know. How do you do that?
Wouldn't putting too much air in make the machine bouncy?
@@toast47624 air ride lol
😂😂😂😂😂 Told the new guy to go put air in the solid rubber tire skid
Thank you! I will ask my boss tomorrow morning👍🏼
Really have been getting into these videos! I just started with the local 138 heavy equipment apprentice program and just getting a jump start on my knowledge ! :)
Good to have you..
I'm just retired crane OP, Local. 103..
this is helping so much thank you
I have been digging pools and grading around them after concrete is shot to backfill and grade out for deck area as well as final grades. In Florida.
I had a swimming pool excavating company in California.. I had a 825 Bobcat, a 700 Bobcat, and a 974 Bobcat.. The 974 had a hoe attachment with a 4 foot Digmore extension on it.. I also had a concrete breaker for the machine..
Fantastic video Tim from Australia .great help ...
Thanks for the comment!!!
I’m doing a Plant operations Certificate 3(Civil Construction) and the skid steers we get given to train on are JCB’s with big horrible tyres and after watching skid steer instructional TH-cam videos I would much prefer to be trained operating tracked skid steers as they look like they operate much more smoothly and leave less damage(holes when turning!)which is ideal IMHO.
Also once you have spread materials/filled/levelled you can raise the empty bucket right up and use the tracks to go forwards/reverse over your final grade to compact down the material
I would agree that tracks are better unless you are dealing with ice or slick snow hard pack. Then chained tires are the winner.
I would argue that learning on a tire machine is much better. If you can learn how to spread and grade evenly, and turn without tearing everything up on a tire machine, the track machine will gravy for new operators
If you are cutting in a driveway on top of grass the one thing I've learned to keep you from creating waves is only take an inch at a time. Dont try to remove too much at one time. That's my little bit of advice for new guys.
Excellent. Thank you.
I like to back drag a lot to help pack material in faster, but I also don’t ever run a skid steer with tracks so the tires like to squish unpacked material out.
One thing to watch for, if you work somewhere with bigger rocks (3” and bigger I’d say) if you get a rock trapped under your bucket, and you back drag, you will just rip out all your material until that rock finally rolls under the bucket or you start going forward again
Thank you, that was very helpful
ThNks. It really helped me learn and i be able to do my landscaping by myself
Instead of dropping the bucket and then tilting it to grade, you should tilt the tip of bucket down a little snd then drop bucket all the way down.
Same thing when back dragging. Unless you want to pull dirt back with you as you drag.
What's the difference between doing what you said and bringing the bucket down then tilt? Isn't it the same thing?
@@OriginalSirSpeaksAlotdeere buckets are different than bobcat buckets
I tipped over once when I was new. had to lift a dead tree over a fence and smashed into the ground. Pretty damn scary but it's the best way to learn haha
I like your class.
Great video. Thanks!!
Glad you liked it!
I spread on low spots driving forward that way i can lower the bucket and back drag utilizing every movement and being a lot more efficient. cutting in like you are doing isn't tamping down as the back dragging makes it much more solid for leveling a Pro would know this.
Great videos
Useful stuff! Thanks.
I’m 16 and after probably 15 minutes in a skid to learn the controls, I graded a site that had ditches for drainage pipes and made it look professionally done by doing nothing but back dragging with the float function
Hey that works..nice work!
If you only used the float then the grade wasn’t set right, you can make it look pretty but it’s still gots to drain properly if you wanna have a job doing this man
@@hunterholdsclaw2654 the grade was mostly where it needed to be it just needed to look pretty after filling in the trenches
@@kiernanb9445 oh I got ya man badass nice work
So for you experienced grading experts, is it the same principle as using a box scraper on your Tractor. Leaving your box blade level not tilted but dragging level filling in low spots. However unlike the Tractor the skid loader does not fill in the low spots because the bucket is not spilling dirt forward to drop out. Does this make sense? Thanks.
Nice basic tutorial sir,,,
Thanks and welcome
Big mistake you're making is you fill the low spots but you don't pack it before making another pass so all you're doing is gliding across the packed ground then scooping the material right back out of the low spot you filled in. You're basically chasing your own tail.
I love these vids
good to hear...thanks!
great video thanks a lot
I was taught to swivel your head.
Also, the BIGGEST mistake I do see is that many operators rely solely on the onboard computer. The newest equipment I operated routinely was 2006 model year and recently I was asked by a buddy who has many pieces of equipment to help him for a few days. I was given strange looks, because I actually got in the engine compartment and visually inspected all levels. One of the workers was trying to explain all about the onboard computer, and I said that "Computers can be programmed to display false information."
I was called about 2 days later and was told that 80% of the fleet of equipment was down.
The computer on 1 machine said that the hydraulic fluid was full, but in actuality was bone dry
A different machine gave an alert for 1 thing, yet something completely different was wrong.
Point of the story,
Always visually inspect be as a safety precaution.
That’s more of a mechanic tip really has nothing to do with operating the actually equipment, helpful none the less lol
@@hunterholdsclaw2654 At the end of the day, The operator needs to visually verify that the machine is able to last the duration of the day, regardless of mechanic availability.
@@hunterholdsclaw2654 If you are a tractor trailer driver, you are legally required to complete a "Pre-trip inspection.
If something goes bad, the operator is solely responsible.
@@edstevens6839 yes those are laws and pre-trip things, not things that pertain to actually operating the equipment(as in actually driving and controlling the bucket) thought it was pretty clear there’s a difference in the two
@@hunterholdsclaw2654 pre-trip is a part of basically all skid-steer courses. If you work for a company and operate a skid-steer with no engine oil or coolant or any other fluid it’s your fault. So yes, it is related to operating.
Good instructor
does no one operate with the bucket vertically down using the bottom of your bucket blade? And picking the bucket up after a back drag and sitting it back down on top of grade and when you see a low spot flick the stick to throw your dirt smoothly, or is that just me.
I enjoy your videos also
Thanks!
Thank you!
You're welcome!
The thing with your joysticks if that you want to roll them not Jerk them around because all that does is hurts the machine just roll them nice and slow but in some cases when it is wet outside and you have sticky topsoil or something you can jerk the bucket.
Agree with the rolling idea. I tell new operators to avoid stabbing any hydraulic joysticks...pretend they are thin pencil sticks in your hands.
@@HeavyMetalLearning YES thank you so much for agreeing with me you guys teach me so much I am only a 14 year old kid and I have been running machines as long as I can remember and that’s one think that my grandpa tells me to do don’t jerk your sticks! Thank you guys for your time and reading my comments! Have a great week!!!
@@avenheavner108 Your grandpa is a WISE man! Thanks for sharing your tips!
@@HeavyMetalLearning no problem always😉
@@avenheavner108 yep I learned the hard way go slow take ur time an just get out their an do it.
with these secret operator skills... diesel and replacement track sellers will love you!
😂😂😂😂
are you guy's able to get a hold of a ASV SkidSteer?
hmmm....I can see. Anything specific you are looking for?
Without a side tilt feature on a bucket, how does one begin to make a swell, trench, or other angled trench with a ctl? Know what I’m asking? Do I dig and dump, dig and dump, etc. to get one track higher than the other and then drive in that sideways to get the tilt of the trench?? Or, just use an excavator? Thanks!
If you want an angle form that angle by loading one side of the bucket and spread along the swale trench. Use the new material to force the blade to dig one side now. Or you can use the same process on a slope to level it. Like if a track or road has an unwanted camber.
Operating the skid steer makes me feel like mecha steven hawking.
I think you will learn how to control your bucket joy stick better by gently moving it rather than jerking it.. It is a lot easier on the machine and your wrist also.. As you run the machine more you will get a feel for the joy stick and how it makes the bucket react..
How to operate track loader / crawler loader. Tips for do and not to do. Tq
I love the john deer skiddy but the only downfall I've come across is the protection for the radiator. When backing up steep grades if any material comes into contact with the fan blade, the blade will throw it right into the radiator and puncture a hole. The cats have a much better design for protection from debris getting into the fan blade. I would still rather grade in a john deer any day over a cat though. Both have their strengths and weaknesses but the deere is much more user friendly when it comes to precision.
Good job
Love these videos 👍 very helpful!
Thanks for the comment!
Thanks a lot
Please say more things about excavator 🌹
Sure thing!
I won a bid with a home builder. For debris removal on smalls/fines bedded in the dirt, do I need to use a skid steer? Or is there something else I can use?
You bid on a project you didn't know how to do? 😂
I want a brand new skid steer so bad but they too expensive
I know they are worth every penny but the average human can’t afford em, only businesses
I think it sucks grading with a skid steer. I can do it but these days I rent a dozer for the day, worth every penny imho..I feel my finish product is better ….
💯🔥💙👍
thanks
The only way to be great is seat time it's OK fuck ups is the only way to get better
Grading sand is not a hard skill to master…
Deere skids are not money well spent. Choose otherwise
Ive seen better operators in a war torn Somalia , clearly the bosses son or labourer??
Dude I’m sorry... but this is nothing..