What NOT to do in a Skid Steer | Heavy Equipment Operator Training
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- How to Operate a Bobcat - Skid Steer Training. Today we are covering what NOT to do in a Skid Steer. We cover the 5 basic mistakes we see from new operators regarding: bucket placement, proper load level, turning, bucket attachment and parking. We'll be operating a John Deere 325G compact track loader. Have a question of comment? Leave them below!
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my number 1 mistake seen is failure to grease the machine before use, when used 8 or more hours stop and grease the machine I cant tell you how many worn bushings and pins I've replaced. when you see a machine that the cylinders for the bucket move over an inch before the bucket starts moving you know its been operated without proper care (all the machines where I work have bright red signs either on the door on the way in or clearly visible from the operators seat) and the signs state... I NEED GREASE TO LIVE... yet I see numerous machines not getting greased that are running 8-10 hrs. straight 5-6 days a week without a single greasing for weeks on end, (these are machines I operate maybe a few days a season and I service them before I use them) more than a few times moving the machine into a safe position to grease it and all you hear is the metal on metal squeak of the pins in there bores or the bang bang bang of the arms, links, pins, and attachments slamming around due to wear. My number 2 mistake is failure to check fluid levels at the appropriate times. THESE ARE OPERATOR TASKS not mechanic tasks. I don't understand why 2 tasks that takes 15-30 minutes 1-2 times a day (based on the piece of equipment and the amount/type of use the machine gets put through) gets constantly ignored... I'm sorry if it looks like I'm complaining about it but these are things that irritate the crap out of me and are things I see regularly and they destroy these very expensive pieces of equipment that I wish I could afford.
I agree. I operated machines that were pre computer, and I was recently asked to help out a buddy. I actually visually looked in the engine compartment. As a result, I had so many looks because the new operators rely solely on the computer. That said, my buddy called me 2 days later, complaining that he lost 80% of his equipment fleet because the computer was giving false information.
The computer read that the
Hydraulic Fluid was full, but was bone dry, which ended up with the machine having to spend way too much money on repairs.
I try to tell people if you need to fuel, you need to grease. You're not doing anything while waiting for it to fill up, and it's a good gauge of time for a grease interval. My only exception is when mulching, since it'll be at a 1/4 tank in 4-5 hours, so I'll do it every other tankfull.
And I agree about checking fluids. Except the engine oil dipstick, everything else is a sight glass. Just do a quick once around when out.
I recently bought a used skidsteer and several of the grease zerks were missing and the holes were full of dirt. I also use waterproof marine grease where ever possible.
Going to be operating a skid steer for the first time this week been watching your videos they have me confident and ready to go.
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Thanks for the video. Love the tip about finding a spot for hard turns. Learned this lesson the hard way on my first week with the CTL.
Glad it helped!
Thanks for the demonstration. Can never learn to much about safe operation of equipment.
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I do my best work on my bobcat after about 8 beers
Ummm...fail!
Yo me too 🤣🤣
I prefer 10-12 or at least a pre work joint
@@ggagoots lol my wife asks how can you work 18 hours straight ? I say with a little help from my little cold buddies 😁
1 gram of coke per day makes me laser focused when im running the rt120, dont bother me until ive had my gram
Forgot about forward approaching an incline! Too many times I've got the front end up. Also driving over a curb on a wheeled skidsteer. If you're lined up the rear wheels will grab and put you into a wheelie.
Thanks for the comment!
Good video.. I will always pull the dipstick in the morning, do a visual of the coolant burp tank, and quick check for oil leaks, then start the machine, skid steer, loader, motor grader, excavator, what ever the machine, and while the machine is warming up I will hit the grease fittings.. On a loader, I will grease the bucket pins two or three times a day, depending on the use.. Any time, as you walk up to a machine, do a visual, checking tires, lug nuts, under the machine for oil leaks, and such.. Treat the machine as if it were your own and you were paying to fix it when it breaks down.. That is my rant for the day.. Thanks for reading this..
This machine is so beautiful. Very good presentation. I give you 100%.
i took my skid steer coarse and going to be working in the mine thes videos help alot what not to do.
The machine shown is technically a track loader. Much easier to drive than a true 4 wheel skid steer. Doesn't bounce nearly as bad. Good info. though! Thumbs up.
Thank you! I’m new to tool rental at Home Depot. Apprenticing to become a technician… gonna check out your other large equipment videos (for Home Depot’s status) 🤷🏼♀️ This helped a LOT! Thank you! New Subscriber!
Great info. Thanks.
I had a new snow removal job, went to the machine, and started it. First scrape with the 10' box, and left the snow box behind on the mound of snow. It took me using my phone for a training video on where the new modern controls were
I had two front tip overs after each other the other day, first time in 20 years of safe use. My new job does hole work which is new. Tipped it forward twice in a row. We rented a newer track loader instead of wheel.
Never operated one but your demonstration was interesting. Thank you.
Leaving the open and raising the boom gets you one shattered door. Twenty year guys all the way down to the newbies have done it.
agreed
Or if there isn't a door a good boot full of dirt, talk about fill ya boots, just raise the bucket fast as ya can and wait.
Feel like a kid waiting for these new vids
lol
Great tips!
Glad it was helpful!
These newer ones with rubber TRACKS compared with the older rubber tires is night and day. Much smoother.
40 yrs. union operator.
He's actually driving a track loader. Skid steers have tires.
Great thank you 👍
No problem 👍
Got a new JCB teleskid - 1st time at full power in the rabbit mode I almost lost control going straight ahead. I had to let go of all controls to stop 😎 I’m pretty sure I saw some smirks on that job site. Fast and sensitive controls can lead to a crash.
yup....usually only a mistake you'll make ONCE!
Me too, love mine, brother, the side door makes it hard to beat and the telescopic feature has pushed me to dry land already, lol.. Keep her greased and oiled!
We have two skid steers at work, one cat and one kubota. The cat has the swinging door that locks you inside. I think it’s a terrible design. The kubota has the door that slides up above you. Way better, you can open your door with your bucket up, you can open it and work if your ac don’t work. The swinging door is always getting caught. And on the cat no matter how much you lower the bucket or whatever the door still gets caught on the arm and never opens fully.
yeah...definitely a different design.
When it comes to picking up smalls/fines how would you operate the skid steer? Or would you use a different tool/method? I'm a beginner. Thank you for the videos.
Good info 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Well, if you have a load the bucket is a measure of the rear. Clear the front clear the back. You can turn with a load up , but counter the balance with up and down arm while twisting. Jerking means that it's not balanced.
i own a bobcat with standard controls, that deere looks like a nice machine to run. its easy and quick to mess something up operating a skid, so be carefull.
Yes...safety first! Thanks for the comment!
@@HeavyMetalLearning nope safety third
The g series are really nice machines
i have those exact same glasses !
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Lol we own that exact machine that he was driving it his video
Turns out our machine is famous
Heavy Metal, I appreciate your modesty but you offer a wealth of knowledge to a wide spectrum of operators. Thank You!
Appreciate that...thank you!
How stable are they on 45 degrees?
Acceleration on an electric (vs hydraulic) function (like quick-tach) accomplishes absolutely nothing.
But excellent and nicely detailed presentation, thanks!
What do you mean? The quick attach is a hydraulic function...that’s how the pins are extended.
I think you should show which buttons you press like the detachment bucket
We'll see if we can get better camera angles on those next time
The buttons are in different places and have different symbols in all different brands of machine
#5. You'll never get trapped or damage the door in a Kubota bc the door opens up vertically into the cab. Wonderful versatile design!
Until it’s old and rickety and won’t seal well. Seen I happen with kubotas with 2000hrs+
@@harrisonhays7233 have you seen it in the Takeuchis?
@@harrisonhays7233 2000 hours is old and rickety? .... thats sad when other machines have 10k hours on them and are still usable. Or maybe you are not treating your machine well.
@@Wingnut353 doesn’t matter how you treat it. It’s a shitty design. Nothing but issues with kubota doors. Never had any issues with Deere doors.
Kubota door is awesome
Not throttling down before shutting off and getting out
good one to add
Can doing a zero turn with a track loader cause a track to come off, on certain surfaces?
Never had it happen... but I’ve thrown Tracks on numerous Ditch Witch dingos by turning on 1 inch clean
"give it a little bit of power" for the electric quicktach. yes on any other machine using hydraulics you'd need a bit of throttle to speed it up. john deeres quicktach is electric. machine can be off in power auxilary you can still attack/detach
good point...thanks for sharing
@@HeavyMetalLearning you are totally right to throttle up for any hydraulic movement though. As well, if you hold tilt back while locking/unlocking with hydraulic quicktach it speeds it up.
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If you have the machine outside doing maintenance with the boom arms locked up, be sure to unlock your boom lock before you head back into the shed or barn. Ask me how I know this.
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If you think you look stupid not being able to open your door, imagine my face when I ripped the door off. Yes I did that once when I got to bullshitting while off loading a small bobcat that didn't have a open door lockout...
First thing was you keep calling it a skid steer its a track loader haha. I have no idea why that bugs me but it does. Great video though.
It bugs you because its a CTL compact track loader NOT a skid steer it bugs me also bro your not the only one
actually skid steer is the generic name (family name) for what that machine is and compact track loader is the specific name ( kind of like the species of the machine) kind of like wolves and dogs belong to the k-9 family yet dogs and wolves are 2 distinct species of that same family and can be separated even further into the breed etc.
Man that really irritates me as well. Always correct when someone uses that term for a trackloader!!😂
Operators getting in or out of a running shid steer
im a dump truck driver and i load my truck with a skid steer and i back up and then i go forward and pop wheelies
Have you ever left the door open and lifted your bucket? I totally haven’t 🥴🤪😅
oh man....that sucks!
@@HeavyMetalLearning A Couple times trying To Get a tire off a trailer, door open & raise Bucket, DOOR OFF HANGING BE WIPER WIRES & There IS no way to get it back on without level & Manual lifting it on high & level. FUN But it Happens when seeing ois a problem & not thinking ahead.
@@danmcdonough8514 Yeah, that sucks. Usually you only make that mistake ONCE. Thanks for the comment and support!
That's why I really like Takeuchi and the sliding door. can operate with or without door up. Makes communicating with ground guys so much easier
Forklifts are the same, keep them low w/out load.
Check what not to do use a seatbelt
Skid steers have a seat belt?
top mistake for a rookie (like me)
forgot to top up the diesel
Who knew Jonah hill knew so much about skid steers!
Don’t gotta worry about the door on a Kubota
Another one is being too harsh on the lowering the boom. Ive seen a lot of hard stops on those poor arms
Agreed...thanks for the sharing.
People that run with the load lifted have clearly never even been trained on a forklift lol
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Standart control.. only if you are not started way back worh no electronic joystic BobCat.. whats steers lieke a tank..
#6 not throttling up the machine.
Here is question, some people tell me the machine should run at nearly full throttle or the hydraulics will overheat, is that correct.
You don't need to shake your bucket when putting it back on, just curl it back
Don’t need to...but I’ve noticed it helps sometimes if there is material stuck in between. Allows pins to extend easier and secure.
it also helps to get the bucket fully settled on the attachment plate when attaching
Number one could been always were you’re dam seat belt!
What not to do: put me in one
I knocked the door off the first time I got in one :)
Well at least you acknowledge it
nice branding - put a deere into gear
xD
Where's his hard hat first of all he's inside a machine 😮
Definitely what not to do vid. I have hundreds of hours in Skid and never worn a seat belt...
The first thing not to do is call a CTL a skid steer. A skid steer has wheels.😂
Don’t ever take off the back glass it’s a real pain in the ass to put back on the damn machine
First who actually puts a seat belt on second I’ve never seen someone flip a skid on it side
Don’t be a tool...wear your seatbelt!
I’ve seen a skid flipped on its side. But I agree I almost never wear my belt unless I’m in a dozer
I’m not being a tool I’m just speaking truth
Also u should never start operation before you check fluid levels
I put the seatbelt on in any tractor or machine I get in. Dont be the fool who gets either hurt, killed or worse... cited by supervisor or OSHA.
Lets be honest no one actually wears the seatbelt in a skidsteer
Nice video but I don't think the last one was worth much. Who cares if the buckets not quite far enough down and you open the door realizing it won't open. Just lower the bucket than get out. I don't see what the big deal is there. TH-cam content to me.
Front entry skid loaders are antiquated. Being locked in the cab if the bucket is up and having to climb over the bucket and not be able to get out if the bucket is up is extremely stupid....throw in the awful visibility of these machines and it's not even close. JCB/Volvo design is so much better. The only knock people (who haven't used them) have against them is the durability of the single arm....which is laughable when you consider almost ALL trackhoes and backhoes are single arm.....lol
I'd buy one, but their hydraulic flow and hp isn't high enough. That's my gripe. They need to get to 100hp and 40gpm at 4000psi.
The most important thing to do when it comes to skid loaders is never buy a Kubota absolutely the worst on the market in all areas of the machine
lol....well thanks for that input.
They got better doors. But we have a cat and kubota. The cat is way smoother in every aspect, but the kubota does have a way better door. Slides above you instead of swings open.
@@montanawhite5699 it depends on what you are doing with your machine i do a lot of mulching and have a ASV120 Forestry unit and I have owned and operated about every brand out there and the ASV is the best machine out there in all areas except visibility because of all the protection on the machine
Company I worked for had a new holland skid steer that the whole back end would pivot out and high enough to dump the bucket in a small dump truck. I know work for a barge company and we hoist the skid steers into the barge to help with unloading material. We use it to push all the material into a pile for the sennebogen material handler.
Another thing I’ve seen is let’s say there’s a piece of rebar that someone forgot to move or didn’t see in their site inspection ok easy enough I’ll get out move it and get back in but their in a hurry and just lift the bucket over their head so they don’t have to climb over itget out and walk directly under the bucket while it’s in mid air what’s gonna happen if those hydraulics fail? you’re gonna have a not so fun day I wouldn’t recommend ever doing this
Alcohol and heavy equipment does not mix.
If This is helpful to you then you should not have a skidsteer
When 11 year old watching this
After watching
Son you ready to start
lol...yup
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Step 1:don’t buy John Deere
30 seconds in and he's already repeated everything four times I don't think this is going to be a video worth watching
Sorry...we’ll issue you a full refund! #HatersGonnaHate
No matter how good of an operator you think you are, Everyone makes mistakes when Not Thinking &/or distracted. Insults Not required Nor helpful.
Agree - respect your audience by by being rehearsed, concise with good editing.
safety bears repetition. The more you repeat the steps & procedures -- the better you'll remember them. I have to do that with all my guys. Avoids a lot of accidents with new people not familiar in doing any task, using any tool or machine. No one wants to get hurt or wreck something....have fun at work -- be safe
Calling a track loader a skid steer is like calling an air breathing ENGINE a MOTOR. There are engines that breath our air and rocket, and electric MOTORS that DON'T need the atmosphere to operate.
ALL of these are PRIME MOVERS! Did that help?
Okay first things first.
One mistake a lot of skid steer operators do is buy a Deere..
Maybe worthwhile for a novice to invest 14 mins, to watch thru. After 2 mins of waffle and an add, I was ready to go elsewhere. With better rehearsed dialogue and a bit of editing this could have been presented in 2 mins. I learnt more reading the comments. Remake it and include the better points in the comments, then you might have enough content for 14 mins. Not sure it achieves anything by responding to every comment with a bland acknowledgement.
It shows we actually read our comments! I think your comment could have been reduced to 2 sentences....would have saves us reading!
You’re both right
stop rambling get on with it
Maybe better don’t buy a John Deere ??