Here’s a counter tip for you. #1 don’t use drywall screws for wood use the proper screws. # 2 never use fine thread for wood. #3 don’t pack insulation like that. Ever.
It's not so much predrilling the hole, it's the head that splits the wood so it needs countersinking before tightening. Also using woodscrews and not drywall screws would help
@@Jarvis241987 Yeah but if you’re strapping an entire house and you’re predilling every hole you’re wasting a fuckload of time. I’ve never seen anybody predrill strapping before. It’s a great way to add hours onto your bill thoufg if your trying to fuck over the customer.
This happens because the reversed screw cuts the grain of the wood making a pilot hole , the first screw simply separates the grain causing the split to run with the grain. Same principle as hitting the tip of a nail before hammering it in. The flattened tip tears the grain on the way through and basically making a pilot hole but the un flattened tip just separates the grain
That's advisable for extremely dry wood but no one wants to walk around with 2 drill guns OR change the bits out. Just make a counter sink with your phillip head drill bit. The screw head flair is the main reason 9 out of 10 times you get a split at the end
@@user-xl1us6yl6n It’ll never work with hardwoods. But then, if you’re doing a project with hardwood you’ve probably got the skill level and awareness of the expense of that wood to know better than to skip any steps. If not, you’ll quickly learn when it goes bad.
@@honestly_7724 his not being a dick head his being honest. These stupid videos put stupid ideas in DIYers heads. Pre drill it and you don’t have a problem. Stop being so sensitive
Two ways to do it. The proper way which is pre-drill. and the second way is to blunt the tip of the screw, that way it pushes rather than cuts the fibers and isn't as likely to crack the board. For anything like this like wall installations? ALWAYS pre-drill. Just because it's covered up doesn't mean do it wrong. that's a structural defect now.
It happens because in reverse you're basically drilling a smooth hole or pilot hole rather than a threaded hole. Most people use a drill bit and pre-drill a pilot hole then screw in the screw.
Running in reverse first kinda “burns and seals” the wood fibers to the point that when go forward it allows the fastener to drive thru w/o splitting, as the fibers have already been “broken and cauterized”, if you will. ✌🏻
@@iainmacdonald4433 recovering from foot surgery and have migraine when wrote that, but hope get what “mean”….and it really does “burn and seal” the wood fibers to allow fasteners to go in w/o splitting wood, or at very least mitigating the splitting. So, I call it “cauterizing” the wood fibers Cheers✌🏻
It is also not necessary in every application to sink in the screw through the wood. Just butt the screw to the wood and make sure everything sits tight to frame
Im a 38F trying to fix things on my own and not make it worse. I appreciated this video. Thabk you. (Fixed my kids bed box spring slats and split the wood a few times 😬 )
It’s called pre-drilling. It “happens” or works because you’re not expanding the wood and causing it to split if you remove some material in the space you’re drilling into. By running the drill in reverse while pushing the screw in forcibly, you’re basically creating the pilot whole since the threads of the screw are running the opposite direction. So instead of the screw sinking it’s removing material by cutting through the wood with each thread and pushing it outward at the same time (if you run it in reverse).
The predrill removes material that the screw displaces when it's sunk. With nowhere to go, it pushes out sideways. The threads still displace wood, but not enough volume as the root. That the actual "why" instead of "just predrill".
l work in the commercial garage door industry. we teach always to use a 1/4 inch drill bit , and drill a 1/4inch into the studs. that way we don't split the wood when we sink in a lagg.
It happens because going forward spreads the wood fibers causing the split. By going in reverse at high speed you’re burning/cutting through the wood fiber keeping the surrounding wood intact
The 2nd screw cracked the wood as well! You over torqued the first one, then relaxed and tapped the trigger on the 2nd. You said “ it will never crack” as it cracked. You should have picked up a different piece of lumber for that video. Cheap lumber has cheap results.
It's not about torque, It's about impacts. He is using impact driver which causes the wood split. Running it in reverse basically prevents the driver from impacting the wood and then after he made the "pilot hole" it an continue as usual.
Here's the solution. Whether you have only a few to do or many ... set up your work table, pre drill ALL your straps at same time like on an assembly line and then take them to where they are to be installed. Guaranteed. Two drills or if you only have one, no need to change from drive bit from counter sink a million times. ... and maybe don't place screw a quarter inch from edge of wood when you have much more to work with. Lol. "Install strapping? Didn't I finish that a half hour ago?" Lol.
I think you could just push it through in drive to the same point, reverse it back out, then drive the screw fully in… But we would need to do some tests!
A screw is basically a wedge, pushing the material of the board to the sides forcing it apart were as a drill bit has channels in them to allow the drilled material to be crapped out putting no strain on the sides, creating a pilot hole. Using the same screw on reverse mimics this without a bit change.
Heated screws prevent it, so by running the drill in reverse with the friction on the wood it heats up the screw and also wood making it more malleable and preventing splitting.
Screws are just round wedges with threads. The bigger the screw the more likely it splits. It's basically a self driving axe unless you burn your way through half way
I used to put the screws in a small bucket of water, the water in the threads of the screw would keep from splitting the wood!!..😉 Pre drilling is ultimately the best way and only one extra step!!..☺️
Because your drilling a pre pilot hole, the reverse movement with forward pressure creates a clean pilot hole for the screw to then wind into the wood properly
thats same principle of hammering a nail in back to front on end of timber to compress the wood and then hammer nail in right way. been done since before my grandfather was a boy . saw him doing it 40 years ago
It happens because if u drill normally u go between the wood fibres and seperate them. If u drill backwards or predrill u break the fibre, this way the screw doesnt push so many wood fibres on each side and doesnt split the wood. Same thing happens if u distroy a little the pointy end of a screw or a nail with a hammer, it wont split the fibres but break trough them.
Reversing the screw allows for the excess material to be drilled out as opposed to forward motion where access material has no where to go but sideways, hence why wood cracks, which is why pre-pilot hole is the correct method of installation
Yep, reverse piloting the screw so you don’t have to drill. Been doing it a while. Also works great for setting a screw so it doesn’t run way from your finger but into your finger as your finger acts like a guide. Also Doesn’t hurt your finger
It happened because you counter sunk it. You see it only cracked when the neck or the screw opened it up. So try to minimise force there or make a recess first counter sink the hole then wapp the screw in. Which is probably what you do by spinning it in backwards you strip out the material making the hole bigger through the first half. So weaker too since only half of the wood is sealed tight around the screw once all in. The first half is stripped out then tight. I would drill a recess just for the neck of the screw to sit in. Then the threads will all be jammed tight. But what do I know. I'm just guessing.
Wood grain runs perpendicular to the edge. Coming in at a different angle you won't be separating the grain. More angle means you pull the grain together.
The reason why that happens is because have you effectively made a pathway for the screw and you've effectively dried it. About the same thing as drilling a hole the same size as the screw first before running the screw.
I genuinely enjoy these types of TH-cam shorts videos, although I will most likely never use this skill ots nice to have it in the arsenal. Cheers mate
The reverse screwing makes a small countersink, so that type of screw head will sit and not split, won't split with pan head screws, or use an actual countersink bit then screw in
I think it’s because when u drill a hole of run it in reverse you effectively remove material. But when you attempt to screw it in you displace the material, and the wood often splits.
It happens because your wood has been properly dried and you didn’t pre-drill a pilot. That’s what running it in reverse does, pilot hole hack.
Seriously, first thought I had was pre drill that shit
@@Wolfis-en1ut running in reverse is faster then swapping to pilot and back
@@QargZer grk screws and dont gotta do either
It burns it as well, notice the smoke.
@@Jason56B grk screws are around 10 cents each.. the screw used in the video is around 1 cent each..
Don’t forget to touch the screw after you run it in reverse.
😂😂😂
Or lick it. Even better
It’s very cold
😂
🤣
I usually just ask it nicely not to split. I have no idea why it works either but it's just as affective.
Because sometimes to get a good screwing, you just gotta be nice.
@@Bouldergoat Exactly, you understand!
Very smart this reality is just vibration and particles
*effective
@@teeanahera8949 *offective
Here’s a counter tip for you.
#1 don’t use drywall screws for wood use the proper screws.
# 2 never use fine thread for wood.
#3 don’t pack insulation like that. Ever.
😂
What’s wrong with #3?
Called ”pre-drill”
FOR REAL !!! Omg I was like where’s the drill bit that’s a screw !!!
Called a pilot hole
It's not so much predrilling the hole, it's the head that splits the wood so it needs countersinking before tightening. Also using woodscrews and not drywall screws would help
Definitely split both times 😂 just use a pilot hole.
Exactly haha
Are you dumb?
Who would want to change between two bits for every screw??
@@Pro_Vs_Con id say 99% of carpenters have an impact and a combi.
@@Jarvis241987 Yeah but if you’re strapping an entire house and you’re predilling every hole you’re wasting a fuckload of time. I’ve never seen anybody predrill strapping before. It’s a great way to add hours onto your bill thoufg if your trying to fuck over the customer.
“Never split wood”
*still splits wood*
Ikr all you have to do pre drill the holes not that hard
Yep. I saw that too. I even zoomed in to check, 😂
@@welshsteve2009 hahaha I was gonna say this exactly 💯
And said "I have no idea why that happens but it always happens."
Looks more like fray than a split
Now you know the reason for having a cordless drill and an impact driver in a set. One to drill the pilot hole and the other to drive the screw.
This happens because the reversed screw cuts the grain of the wood making a pilot hole , the first screw simply separates the grain causing the split to run with the grain.
Same principle as hitting the tip of a nail before hammering it in. The flattened tip tears the grain on the way through and basically making a pilot hole but the un flattened tip just separates the grain
Absolutely said
Great explanation
My daddy!... Always wanted to say, "My daddy!", explained it that way. Blunted nail crushes fibers... sharp nail splits.
Still splits I just predrill it’s cleaner work!
Sounds good and I'm prolly gonna try it, however, I think it's about applying the right amount of pressure. Something that comes with time.
Get your 8ther
Weese it does work just depends on how deep you shove the drill in. deeper is better
😂😂 " I have no idea why that happens" 😂
You can also use the age old technique of dulling the tip of the screw.
It’s because you’re pre drilling with a screw. It’s better to drill a hole with a drill and then screw your screw in the hole.
That's advisable for extremely dry wood but no one wants to walk around with 2 drill guns OR change the bits out.
Just make a counter sink with your phillip head drill bit. The screw head flair is the main reason 9 out of 10 times you get a split at the end
Mate, it still cracked 😂
But not as bad as the first one
I have no idea why that happened!?
@@miamitten1123LOL 😂
Ahhh that split too.
This is low key genius
i see a tiny crack on the second one too 😁
Me too
Same! I actually thought this was a joke video at first. Turns out this guy just sucks
It's a little splinter but it didn't crack through.
He mentioned it
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It’s a shortcut to predrilling. That’s “why that happens”.
Don't gotta be a dick about it lol
@@honestly_7724 lmao 🤣
Shortcut? lol try it with harder wood
@@user-xl1us6yl6n It’ll never work with hardwoods. But then, if you’re doing a project with hardwood you’ve probably got the skill level and awareness of the expense of that wood to know better than to skip any steps. If not, you’ll quickly learn when it goes bad.
@@honestly_7724 his not being a dick head his being honest. These stupid videos put stupid ideas in DIYers heads. Pre drill it and you don’t have a problem. Stop being so sensitive
Two ways to do it. The proper way which is pre-drill. and the second way is to blunt the tip of the screw, that way it pushes rather than cuts the fibers and isn't as likely to crack the board. For anything like this like wall installations? ALWAYS pre-drill. Just because it's covered up doesn't mean do it wrong. that's a structural defect now.
It also helps to nail/screw where there aren't any big knots in the wood, like the one shown
All my brain heard was screw, strap on, crack, reverse, and push it.
Giggity
Always. Told my wife so many times. Let's do it reverse, it wouldn't split and hurt. Screw principle 101.
Lol?
What lmao
Lmfao this guy gets it
Do you counter sink then pre-drill or do you go straight to screwing?
Live it love it LoL
When you run it reverse it makes a pilot hole itself. Good hack. Love it.
“I have no idea why”, but all of us here know exactly why.
When something makes sense leave it alone
“I’m not sure why that happens”
That doesn’t really instill confidence in your “hacks” lol
Child who’s never used a power tool before
Watchu talking about that’s the greatest explanation I’ve ever heard
Cause it's not a hack...it's about how much pressure u apply, or u can PREDRILL
I'd rather have an honest "I don't know" than some post-hoc BS.
Total fail!!
Tap on top of the screw few times before putting it in.
Spit on it
It happens because in reverse you're basically drilling a smooth hole or pilot hole rather than a threaded hole. Most people use a drill bit and pre-drill a pilot hole then screw in the screw.
Just drill a damn pilot hole. This is the second video I’ve seen for how to not crack wood when putting a screw through it.
Running in reverse first kinda “burns and seals” the wood fibers to the point that when go forward it allows the fastener to drive thru w/o splitting, as the fibers have already been “broken and cauterized”, if you will.
✌🏻
Cauterised wood fibres 😂 heard it all now
@@iainmacdonald4433 just had foot surgery and a migraine when wrote that, but….ya get what mean. Least hope so😂
L8R ✌🏻
@@iainmacdonald4433 recovering from foot surgery and have migraine when wrote that, but hope get what “mean”….and it really does “burn and seal” the wood fibers to allow fasteners to go in w/o splitting wood, or at very least mitigating the splitting. So, I call it “cauterizing” the wood fibers
Cheers✌🏻
Ahhh the second one cracked too on the top you can see it! 🙄🙄🙄
Lol I was lookin for someone with some eyeballs
I thought so as well
Thank you! I was like but.. umm..wait
It is also not necessary in every application to sink in the screw through the wood. Just butt the screw to the wood and make sure everything sits tight to frame
Im a 38F trying to fix things on my own and not make it worse. I appreciated this video. Thabk you. (Fixed my kids bed box spring slats and split the wood a few times 😬 )
Reversing is the same as drilling. It also pushes out the dust just like drilling I think.
It’s called pre-drilling. It “happens” or works because you’re not expanding the wood and causing it to split if you remove some material in the space you’re drilling into. By running the drill in reverse while pushing the screw in forcibly, you’re basically creating the pilot whole since the threads of the screw are running the opposite direction. So instead of the screw sinking it’s removing material by cutting through the wood with each thread and pushing it outward at the same time (if you run it in reverse).
Adjust your clutch! Know your tools, knowledge is power!
Bruh, I remember this from woodwork and carpentry: “pilot hole”
Run it in VERVERSE!
GENIUS!
Still cracked it on the second screw, ease down on the torque
I seen that too
True but only coz he when too deep into the wood
You also can hit the tip of the screw with a Hammer from the front. When it is a little flat wood wouldn't crack.
The predrill removes material that the screw displaces when it's sunk. With nowhere to go, it pushes out sideways. The threads still displace wood, but not enough volume as the root. That the actual "why" instead of "just predrill".
Pre drilling works wonders
It literally still cracked 🤷♂️ albeit not as bad as the first time.
I guess the principal is basically pre-drilling
You were honest enough to show that
l work in the commercial garage door industry. we teach always to use a 1/4 inch drill bit , and drill a 1/4inch into the studs. that way we don't split the wood when we sink in a lagg.
It happens because going forward spreads the wood fibers causing the split. By going in reverse at high speed you’re burning/cutting through the wood fiber keeping the surrounding wood intact
And always have a fire extinguisher standing by for when you light your wood on fire
My dad had a trick when hammering and nails he would tap on the tip of the nail with a hammer and then hammer it in.
Screw run in reverse is actually drills a larger hole in to the wood. This minimizes the stress.
The 2nd screw cracked the wood as well! You over torqued the first one, then relaxed and tapped the trigger on the 2nd. You said “ it will never crack” as it cracked. You should have picked up a different piece of lumber for that video. Cheap lumber has cheap results.
You can actually see the 2nd screw went far deeper than the first, it didn't take as much energy as it was basically half pre-drilled.
He predrilled using the screw when running the drill in reverse.
Its not putting " torque " on it, theres less friction and force onto the spot on the wood when you start it off. You made a pilot hole
It's not about torque, It's about impacts.
He is using impact driver which causes the wood split. Running it in reverse basically prevents the driver from impacting the wood and then after he made the "pilot hole" it an continue as usual.
Here's the solution.
Whether you have only a few to do or many ... set up your work table, pre drill ALL your straps at same time like on an assembly line and then take them to where they are to be installed. Guaranteed.
Two drills or if you only have one, no need to change from drive bit from counter sink a million times.
... and maybe don't place screw a quarter inch from edge of wood when you have much more to work with. Lol.
"Install strapping? Didn't I finish that a half hour ago?" Lol.
I always just use the Phillips head driver to do that first. Plus that way it gives it a bevel for the screw head to go into
"I don't know why it happens" . You are predrilling the wood. Thats why it's not cracking
"I have no idea why" ok so pre drill the wood with a smaller piece before screwing gg ez
Time.....
I usually run it in about halfway in. Then switch it to reverse and back drill it through. That little extra pilot hole helps.
Thanks.
From now on I'll always use the left side to avoid a split.
There are actually screws available these days that help prevent splitting. Plus if you don't drive the head all the way through it helps too 🤦🏻♂️
I think you could just push it through in drive to the same point, reverse it back out, then drive the screw fully in…
But we would need to do some tests!
By this point we might as well hammering in the screws with a hammer and then use a screwdriver.
A screw is basically a wedge, pushing the material of the board to the sides forcing it apart were as a drill bit has channels in them to allow the drilled material to be crapped out putting no strain on the sides, creating a pilot hole. Using the same screw on reverse mimics this without a bit change.
Nice hack ty!! Saves a lot of time drilling pilot holes
Your wood literally cracks at the end lmfao
And remember to always use a screw that is 10x longer than you need!
I usually use a 1/16 drill bit to drill all the hole first then put the screws in
It’s called making a pilot hole. Usually done with a drill bit but if there is a hole for the screw then it will expand the wood less
Not using a drywall screw helps.
That one cracked too!
Heated screws prevent it, so by running the drill in reverse with the friction on the wood it heats up the screw and also wood making it more malleable and preventing splitting.
Screws are just round wedges with threads. The bigger the screw the more likely it splits. It's basically a self driving axe unless you burn your way through half way
"How to make it not crack" i think the word your looking for is "Prevent" my guy
Does everybody's knees pads smell bad on Friday?
I used to put the screws in a small bucket of water, the water in the threads of the screw would keep from splitting the wood!!..😉
Pre drilling is ultimately the best way and only one extra step!!..☺️
Because your drilling a pre pilot hole, the reverse movement with forward pressure creates a clean pilot hole for the screw to then wind into the wood properly
My eyes aren't as good as they used to be didn't that crack on the second time as well
He put in the screws on "drilling mode" without much percussion since he doesn't know what that is. This is someone who didn't read the manual.
천재!!
"I have no idea why.." YOURE PREDRILLING THE HOLE!!!!
,Ya big ... something.
thats same principle of hammering a nail in back to front on end of timber to compress the wood and then hammer nail in right way. been done since before my grandfather was a boy . saw him doing it 40 years ago
It happens because if u drill normally u go between the wood fibres and seperate them. If u drill backwards or predrill u break the fibre, this way the screw doesnt push so many wood fibres on each side and doesnt split the wood. Same thing happens if u distroy a little the pointy end of a screw or a nail with a hammer, it wont split the fibres but break trough them.
Worked well man thanks, couldn't find my drill bit.
Reversing the screw allows for the excess material to be drilled out as opposed to forward motion where access material has no where to go but sideways, hence why wood cracks, which is why pre-pilot hole is the correct method of installation
We use to do the same thing with nails. You would hit the pointed end with the hammer and then drive the nail to prevent splitting.
The wood is less likely to split once it’s already split anyway
Back when they built wooden bridges they would often pre split wood for this reason
Screw it in half-way then unscrew most of the way, then screw it in and set it. Won't split.
Yep, reverse piloting the screw so you don’t have to drill. Been doing it a while.
Also works great for setting a screw so it doesn’t run way from your finger but into your finger as your finger acts like a guide. Also
Doesn’t hurt your finger
I always soak my wood before screwing. 😁
It happened because you counter sunk it. You see it only cracked when the neck or the screw opened it up.
So try to minimise force there or make a recess first counter sink the hole then wapp the screw in. Which is probably what you do by spinning it in backwards you strip out the material making the hole bigger through the first half. So weaker too since only half of the wood is sealed tight around the screw once all in. The first half is stripped out then tight.
I would drill a recess just for the neck of the screw to sit in. Then the threads will all be jammed tight.
But what do I know. I'm just guessing.
In reverse it’s drilling a hole far enough so it doesn’t split. Good technique
I knew that. Works for drywall too 👍🏻
Wood grain runs perpendicular to the edge. Coming in at a different angle you won't be separating the grain. More angle means you pull the grain together.
Or maybe a construction/structural screw with a sold drilling tip, and maybe use 2x4 instead of 1x4
The reason why that happens is because have you effectively made a pathway for the screw and you've effectively dried it. About the same thing as drilling a hole the same size as the screw first before running the screw.
I genuinely enjoy these types of TH-cam shorts videos, although I will most likely never use this skill ots nice to have it in the arsenal. Cheers mate
That’s a nice driver! Busting out the real tools.
“It never cracks if you do that”
Wood proceeds to crack and he stops as he sees it.
Awesome 👍🏼 thank you this is cool 😃👍🏼👍🏼
The reverse screwing makes a small countersink, so that type of screw head will sit and not split, won't split with pan head screws, or use an actual countersink bit then screw in
It happens because fibers get compressed outward and split and by removing some of the fibers it prevents from splitting
I think it’s because when u drill a hole of run it in reverse you effectively remove material. But when you attempt to screw it in you displace the material, and the wood often splits.
its the same reason blunt nails dont crack but nails with a point do.
It cracked both times!🤣
hasn’t anyone ever explained why you pre-drill holes and kiln dried wood