This guy is EXTREMELY underrated in cinema. He reminds me of James Cameron, Chris Nolan, & S. Spielberg in the fact that when they make a film, you watch it because of them, not because of the actors who are in it.
Don't worry Neil, In my mind Ripley, Newt and Hicks are shacked up in a little place on the outer rim eating cornbread while a rebuild bishop sits in his rocking chair on the porch.
@@paulsmith9192 if Blomkamp's movie had been made it would have ignored the events from Alien3 and do something else, probably 100% better and more badass but Ridley killed the project to make the crappy covenant movie. In the PC game Aliens Colonial Marines some Wayland Yutani mercenaries board the Sulaco and awake Hicks, a fight breaks out and one of the mercs ends up knocked out inside hicks hypersleep pod (dies in the crash on Fiorina 161). Hicks partners with a defector and then joins other colonial marines who arrive on LV426 to fight off Wayland Yutani forces & Aliens that survived the explosion... its not perfect but it is more satisfying and cooler than the 3rd movie. In my head this is what happened now and I don't even consider alien3 as canon.
It's an absolute classic, along with terminator and predator some of my faves. Sometimes i think It's the nostalgia but then you watch them again and they're still so good.
Neil is spot on with his thoughts on Aliens. Both films are equal in my mind as they were aimed at accomplishing different things; which they did. Two of my favorite films of all time. I so wish Neil could have taken his shot at it.
Watching ALIENS by James Cameron in Okinawa on a Military base when the film came out - The power of the crowd was a true shock & awe moment... Wish I had footage of that way back in the 80's when the film came out... So pure...
@@alanale - Volcano's & Fireworks is what I saw & felt... With popcorn launched everywhere....& everyone reveled in it... It was intoxicating to be around it...
Man I wish I was able to see that film on its original release. I was only 7 at the time unfortunately. Must have been one of the best cinematic experiences for you. The movie is an absolute thrill ride. My first cinematic experience with the franchise was Alien 3 unfortunately. 😂🤦♂️
I remember going to the videoland’s and videoworld’s here and the covers of videotapes that always got me were Predator 2, Alien and Aliens(Ripley and Nude) and i also rented them around the time i was 10
Of all the unmade movies over the years, this one is hands down the most heartbreaking to me. The concept arts are amazing visuals and they had so many original and new ideas never explored in any of the prior movies. And it would've ignored the shittier Alien movies as noncanon. It would've been a resurrection than Resurrection was. You can tell Neil Blompkamp was really passionate about the project and is a talented filmmaker. His story was so good, it made Sigourney Weaver want to return (after years of her saying she didn't wanna return since Resurrection left a bad taste in her mouth) which would seem impossible to pull off. He even wanted to make a Robocop sequel and it too sounded awesome. Why is Hollywood f*cking over this guy's talent by not producing his ideas!?! F*cking assholes. F*cking idiots!
agree, the hollowoke now is full of frauds and activist clowns, who can only exploite what the real artist made years ago, and still made garbage products. American really need to wake up and find a way to boycott all those bs so the investors can finally wake up demand something good.
Alien is the greatest haunted house film ever made. Every jump scare is earned, every character feels authentic, the suspense is bone-chilling, the danger is always present. Nothing today can compare. Horror studios need to do their homework.
not to mention that they didnt have any real firearms in Alien. So, having smartguns, pulserifles, flamethrowers, pistols, shotguns, they still got their ass handed to them :)
@@Gfors85one of the key points is that the marines get tricked by the corporate guy into not being able to use their normal munitions claiming they were too close to the reactor.
@@Crichjo32 1st 45 minutes of Covenant was great. But it did take a nose dive trying to tie in story elements over 4 decades. My wife figured out the ending on her 1st viewing. She's a lefty.😉
Alien is an opera in movie form. The cold silence of space as the Nostromo ascends to the planet. The perfect highs and lows of the music just where it needs to be. How the camera dances through the ship catching perfect lighting. Quiet when there needs to be, with just the slightest hint of background sounds. Nothing feels out of place and every actor giving a stellar, believable performance. I'm still in amazement every time I watch it.
Ya, if only he didn't still have those conversations 🙄 Ya'll just like to whine about things changing. And, just FYI you don't pay a guy 100 million dollars for a contract that expires. That's buy out money. The only time limit will be how long *he has* to continue to make this show.
I could see Neill getting a little anxious to defend Aliens when Joe was ragging on it a little. I've actually always liked Aliens more than Alien, mostly because of the depth of the characters and Ripley's emotional story. I also think it's a richer film thematically with its maternal theme and Vietnam subtext. The Special Edition cut of the film is actually the better cut.
@@djripsmusic He has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to movies in general, and he's the only one out of any of us who has actually worked in Hollywood.
So Eminem was originally going to play Matt Damons character with the request that the film takes place in a futureistic detroit. Im not making this up. The reason why that idea was scrapped was because it departs from Neil's original vision with the film taking place in a slum akin to joberg. Tbh, i think Eminems idea wouldve been really sick.
@@jordanwright2313 Yes! The reason was He who must not be openly named (who I fucking love yet feel disappointed) wanted to make prequels based on the Engineers but then they ended up not being about the Engineers. They ended up being about an android with a twisted Lawrence of Arabia complex, who created Xenomorphs! Come on!
Someone remind Joe they weren't "easy to kill" in Aliens, the first time the marines run into them they literally get their "asses kicked" to quote Hudson. Wierzbowski, Apone, Crowe, Dietrich, Frost, Drake all get KIA/MIA in the first encounter with the xenomorphs. Even when they disobey orders and go weapons free the only two to be killed at that point were Crowe and Dietrich, meaning them using their weapons accelerated the hive response. People tend to forget that the xenomorphs in Aliens are not an amorphous mass of mindless bugs like in Starship Troopers but effectively an enemy military force... that use their bare hands in lieu of guns and firepower... with the Queen being effectively a general or belligerent commander/leader.
yea, that and the fact that they are all soldiers trained to kill while in the first movie there where only seven of them and they were just a regular cargo ship crew so just one xenomorph was a handful
The fact that they were impressively constructed and composed into shots that they fooled ur minded for 30+ years is astounding. but sure joe its bs, the films didnt plan to be seen on bluray lol.
To this day, the best gift I've ever received was from a girl I was dating in like 2003, when I was 18. She got me the Alien Quadrilogy 9-disc boxed set that came with the four movies, both the theatrical and special edition/director's cut of each. But even better, it had five discs of extra content. Hours and hours and hours of behind the scenes, making of, commentary and interviews, and all kinds of just awesome little snippets of random stuff hidden in secret buttons littered throughout the menus. It was truly awesome. I'll have to dig that out and watch all that stuff again here soon!
I have that too! If you don't have the Prometheus collector's edition Blu-ray I'd highly recommend that as well. There's a MASSIVE documentary on the making of the film that's one of the best I've ever seen. I'm pretty sure it's almost 3 hours long and covers everything from concept art and storyboarding to post production, all shot inside the studios.
I still love matte paintings. I still love stop-motion effects. Need to keep using this stuff, just like practical effects, combined with CGI. Just adds layers of texture to everything.
Did Joe even watch 'Aliens'? Bumbling? Dietrich got snatched up by that sneaky boi in the wall causing her to torch Frost and ignite the bag of ammo. Wierzbowski probably got snatched up too as he's heard screaming alone in the distance. Who could forget the pack of sneaky bois in the ceiling, the one that sneaked around the marines to attack Ripley and Newt, and the one under the floor that got Hudson? There is also the sneaky boi behind the door that got Burke. Not to mention the one that was hiding in the water and snatched Newt. Even the big ass queen sneaked into the dropship before they escaped. Far from bumbling. There is a huge difference with a single alien needing to keep itself in the shadows compared to an infestation of them working as a hivemind horde. Easy to kill? With the arms and equipment the marines had I would hope so. They went in with a purpose. The arms alone made all the difference. So much that Ripley was able to do the do without being trained as a soldier. The crew on the Nostromo didn't have that luxury and had no idea they would be facing such a predator. 'Alien' is a sci-fi horror. 'Aliens' is a sci-fi action adventure thriller. They're not even the same genre.
@@vhscopyofseinfeldmost likely because they was fighting marines with space guns and grenades and special training compared to simple working people on a ship that woke from hyper sleep 🤣🤣🤣
Joe: "So what happened?" Neill: "Oh you know, studio politics. Ridley was being a little bitch and crying I would destroy his shitty canon story of his with a better version."
@@cine-mechanic8589 Yes, unfortunately:-( And gave us Covenant instead ?! I like Scott's work but only sick egomaniak or senile person can do this. I feel so sorry for Neil and for all of us - Alien fans.
@@cine-mechanic8589 He's more than diplomatic here. He's also pretty modest admitting than Chappie might not helped here as well. It was not really a good movie. For sure not in comparison to his great debut. It felt like it was done for Die Antwoord, so they can sit down and jerk off to it watching themselves on screen. I am sure studio would rather go with Ridley's prequels idea anyway, even without him bitching about it. What's sad they both kind of got f*cked. Blomkamp's Alien was not even considered, but Convenant from what I know was far far away from Scott's initial idea for Prometheus' sequel (thanks to studio and unhappy Alien die hard fans). Hopefuly one day he will be able to make his Alien flick. I think the idea of sequel to Aliens, in which Ripley and Newt are both alive is great. Cheers!
probably what happened. Ridley probably went it's my way or the high way. which is stupid, they could have had Prometheus which is set in the past and also have the new Alien movie done by Blomkamp
Wish there were comments on Spotify though. One of the best parts of show is fan reactions. He doesn’t admit to being an idiot enough anymore. Money has begun to swell his head.
Alien (1979) is definitely in my top five. It is timeless from the dialog to the set everything fits given the context the viewer is presented within the movie. I absolutely love the scene Harry Dean Stanton (Brett) and Yaphet Kotto (Parker) are talking to where Sigourney Weaver (Ripley) about their share and the whole steam valve thing is them trying to mess with her. It's thing like this that really made me buy the whole 'merchant vessel' setup. I also had an opportunity to listen Yaphet speak once. It was really interesting. Would have loved to see Blomkamp's take.
@@richardtyson100 actually it is true. Scott referred to it in several,interviews. If u watch closely in the blade runner sequel the SULACO is clearly seen flying above the Las Vegas desert
nah...they were all sci-fi ...horror is a matter of perspective, but there was no mystical or fantasy element to "Alien" ...unlike horror. ...And the ideas about military bio-weaponry and/or an optimally-efficient parasite aren't explored in movies like "Halloween" or "Texas Chainsaw Massacre"
Aliens had strong horror elements too. Action-adventure is something like Indiana Jones. As a kid, I was more scared by Aliens than Alien. The facehuggers etc. are fucking digusting to date, how it's not horror? Chestbursters, jump scares, all that. Just because Aliens is not the most hardcore horror by today's standards and has some shootouts, doesn't mean it's not mostly horror. More like action-horror, than action-adventure. Where as Alien was pure horror
@@shredd5705 I can agree with that. I approach it more from a Kurzweilian standpoint, largely from a standpoint of viewing the entire genre of horror as time-wasting bullshit. (And this comes from a person who nonetheless respects the bootstrapping cinematic achievements of Rob Zombie, John Carpenter, George Romero, and others like them.) I like the thoughts I have from considering the shell of the Alien to be carbon or diamondoid, and from considering it to be a bio-weapon, and to consider bioweapon programming to be an interesting concept, especially as a DNA-using parasite that can "adapt to any enemy that uses DNA" ...and thinking through some of the ways space travel was presented. ...I don't like the thoughts I have from thinking of the alien as "a monster that can't be dealt with rationally" ...in the model of other Hollywood monsters. For this reason, I somewhat like certain "sci-fi horror" but my appreciation of other sorts of "horror" has been diminished by rational reflection. ...If the protagonist can keep their wits about them, might that not be considered the optimal lens through which to view whatever is "horrific" in such a movie? Maybe just "sci fi" is appropriate, no matter how difficult the conflict presented, or how horrific the creatures under consideration appear to be. In real life, we're surrounded by political evil, and the evil is rather untenable (metaphorically horror-movie-like ..."Hellraiser" "Sin City" "Dawn of the Dead" "The Counselor"). ...But it's not actually supernatural, and increased intelligence always reveals at least a _possible_ path to victory (sci-fi-like..."Alien" "Terminator" "Aliens" "The Thing"). Sorry to nerd out on this one, but it's something I find entertaining to think about.
I was hoping they would have just made the AVP movie they were going to make in the 90's that coincided with the AVP arcade game from capcom. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ oh well
A hilarious tidbit is that they only ditched the Cameron-Scott Alien 5 for AvP because Freddy vs Jason did well in the box office. The entire production was rushed and only took a few months.
Yep and it happened because the Freddy vs. Jason was a hit so Fox was like "Aha! Crossovers! That's what the audience wants.... not a Ridley Scott and James Cameron movie with Sigourney Weaver!". Studio execs are morons.
I am a HUGE fan of the Alien franchise and would love to see NB's take on it but his short Zygote presented something horrifying that makes me just want more of that.
@@SirBlackReeds Debatable. The studio interfered with him every step of the way. There is a great documentary about the shitshow going on behind the scene. You can watch the Fincher "Directors Cut" online which is the definitive version of the film which is as close as you will get to seeing Finchers original vision for the film.
I’m not sure there’s a movie I have watched more than Aliens. Love the first one too. It’s hurt me to see where the franchise has gone since. Neil picking up from Aliens would’ve been an absolute dream. His vision sounds perfect
My dad used to take me to all these great double and triple features back in the day in San Francisco. Remember seeing Alien, The Thing (Carpenter), The Howling, sprinkled in with poorer B stuff like The Mausoleum, Motel Hell, etc. Those were the days.
Unpopular opinion: I have my favorites, obviously, but I actually enjoyed all versions and spin-offs in the Alien franchise. So in that regard, more is better for me.
I agree all fun films, same with the predator films, I enjoyed the last predator film because it was funny a surprising change some annoying bits but the humour wasnt the worst parts
Same. The only one I didn't enjoy was Resurrection, but there were still some fun parts. Alien, Prometheus and Covenant are all incredible, Aliens is great, and the director's/Fincher cut of Alien 3 is brilliant too.
@@Mat-threw woooow. You’re soo fucking cool and baddass and edgy wooow .. would love to see the masterpieces that you have created.. wooow how do you come up with such meaningful things to say...
I watched Alien and Aliens in the movie theatre first run, and then years later when I was in South Korea I got to see Alien again after it was approved by the Korean censors. Full house with people allowed to stand in the aisles and fold up chairs between where ever.... Amazing the reaction of people who had never seen Alien. Even though it was edited to meet Korean censor regulations it still was scary as hell nonetheless.
I was 8 in 1986 and saw Aliens in the theater at an AMC. It was scary as hell, but also a lot of fun, at the same time. Those summers back in the 80's with all the smash hits had a magic that's been lost.
Watching the characters interaction with each other in the original Alien movie always impressed me. They really act like theyre just at work and just doing a job which created a level of realism and immersiveness. I could almost see myself as part of that crew because it was so relatable as if id worked with that crew before many times. They dont really take the time for that level of character development anymore.
James Cameron originally worked in FX on movies like Escape from New York so he pulled out all the stops for Aliens. Knowing that those matte paintings are hand done makes them feel pretty special imo and also even when you know they're a matte painting they still tend to age better than a lot of CGI has because we've been able to make paintings look wonderful for a really long time. That's a cool guest to have on, and a interesting interview
My only problem with ALIENS was how much the xenomorphs were diminished just to be fodder for screams and muzzle flares. In the original they're more akin to Elderitch creatures, and had an insane regeneration capability. Even after Ripley fried it with the ships thrusters, it was hinted that it was possibly still alive, but now trapped in open space. Healing and going into a hibernation-comatose state, free to be rediscovered. I personally liked part 3, Lesser evil vs Greater evil premise and the fact that the Xenomorph was brought back to its menacing potential. I just wish Newt and Hicks survived. I'm also cool with the idea of that being a nightmare Ripley experienced when in deep sleep. Cameron turned them into Hedge Hogs you whacked with a club when they popped out. And THAT is why their mystique faded.
I really dont understand this take on aliens. The aliens absolutely destroyed the marines with tactics and ambushing. Yes obviously the destructive capability of humanity at this point would be ridiculous, so when these two things collide we get Aliens. It all makes perfect sense and fits nicely.
@@CrusaderLogan Because Aliens destroyed a great universe, with a shitty script, dialogue & unimaginative take on the alien The original alien showed how weak & fragile humanity actually is in the unknown expanse of space, Cameron's low IQ unimaginative take was literally an episode of the A team
@@nihilistlivesmatter the aliens movie was about how no matter how superior the technology the humans have, they can't outmatch the terrible cleverness of xenomorphs who sent the marines packing in body bags with just their claws and ambushing/swarming tactics.
@@CrusaderLogan You don't understand what an Elderitch creature is or what Regeneration (A healing factor) is? Here lets see if I can break it down; Movie one - One creature; incredibly smart and rapidly heals when you hurt it. And you're trapped with it in space. Understand?.. its like fighting Cthulhu & Wolverine, only its a wild monster. Movie two - They're turned into Gremlins with steroids so some soldiers can go HOORAY!! and shoot off guns, as they dropped by the dozens. Xenomorphs shouldn't fall beneath Raptors in Jurassic Park, as monsters.
I don't remember much about the series but the one scene that really stuck with me is when she got into the robot suit and fought the alien. Think that scene is probably the most memorable for many people, the entire Metroid franchise was spawned from that one scene.
I don't love this guy's movies at all, but I appreciate that he genuinely cared about the franchise. Even if his movie failed, it would have been worth the effort to make and I would have watched it.
@@Zackaria_sMax I watched District 9 and I thought it was good up until the end where it felt like it discarded its interesting social commentary disguised as sci-fi strategy to become a big dumb action movie with lots of splosions. It wasn't a bad movie, but it let down my expectations I had from the first 2/3rds of the movie. Then I watched Elysium and it felt like it abandoned anything interesting to say to become a dumb action movie almost immediately. Chappie... I think I watched Redlettermedia's review and it just looked terrible. Like I said though, I'd rather watch a movie that tries to be something and fails than watch a movie that never aspired to be anything more than schlock in the first place. So listening to him talk about an Alien movie makes me wish he could have had the chance to make it, even though I might not have ended up liking it. Despite what I've said, I would sooner watch Chappie than the next Fast and the Furious.
@@WadeStar So your criticism of his work is that he made them action movies? I'm not saying you don't have the right to an opinion, you think what you think, but they were always marketed as exactly what they turned out to be, action sci-fi movies first, set against a backdrop that possibly makes some deeper statements about human nature. I guess I'm saying I don't understand your disappointment, they were exactly what it said on the box. (I agree Chappie was utterly terrible, couldn't finish it)
@@Ignitionite No. That would be absurd. But I do dislike when a good movie turns into a dumb action movie, or anything good degrades into something less good, regardless of the genre(s) in question. Next, District 9 wasn't marketed to me at all. I never saw a single trailer. It was entirely word of mouth and much of that praise focused on the more interesting first 2/3rds of the movie so I'm not alone in thinking that was the best part of the movie. I liked how it started, expected it to be one thing, it turned into something else at the end that I felt was less original, interesting, or compelling. The mechwarrior fight at the end felt contrived and it's very telling that no one who recommended the movie recommended it because of that part of the movie. After watching Elysium, my impression that this guy just wants to have a robot fight in all his movies cemented. Again, I don't dislike robot fights. I just want the robot fight to belong in the movie. I didn't feel like that belonged in District 9. "Because alien technology" wasn't a very good reason for me. Finally, Elysium was a dumb action movie. I felt it was sold to me as a smart action movie. It wasn't. You win again marketing! Anyway I felt he took the weakest aspect of District 9 and chose to make that his focus in Elysium rather than taking the best aspects of District 9 and developing those. I haven't watched any of his stuff since. But I'd give his next movie a shot after this interview. Now I'd like to help explain my disappointment despite what might be "on the box" or how something is marketed. Art speaks for itself. The intent of the artist, the marketing, etc. doesn't matter. It's the artwork itself that must stand on its own. Do you think we judge whether Shakespeare, DaVinci, or Michelangelo's art is good based on what was promised "on the box"? Of course you don't because that would be absurd. Here's a counter example: I went into The Dark Knight and The Witcher expecting very little. In fact, I expected The Witcher to be bad. But I liked it and I recommend it (not because it's cerebral, but because it's good, fun action with an unpretentious yet compelling story). So clearly expectations don't override whether I will like something or be disappointed in it. I can watch something with one expectation, have that expectation not be met, and still like it for what it is. I watched The Kid Detective thinking it was a comedy... I'd say it was even marketed as such, but I'd also say it was definitely *not* a comedy, but still an excellent movie. Not a good date night movie, as I found out the hard way. tl;dr Good art never disappoints, no matter what's on the box.
LMFAO I know, someone tell him the xenomorphs in Aliens aren't as weak as they're portrayed in the AVP movies or Resurrection. At least Covenant had the decency to show how resilient they are.
Been watching the series with my son over the last month, the first one remains perfect, the rest remain frustrating, but have enough of Gieger’s dream remaining to make them eternally fascinating
Resurrection gets a lot of (deserved) shit. BUT those last 10 minutes does something ALIEN did, that none of the other sequels could- it makes you COMPLETELY uncomfortable.
if i was a billionaire id fund blomkamps movies and tell him to go nuts, make whatever he wanted because when you a genuinely trying to make new stuff, sometimes ppl wont like it but everything he's done has been interesting
More money isnt better he had 115 million for elysium and 50 million for chappie. Studios gave him money and he kept going further off the reservation. He had one good movie in him that was aided by props and art created for the halo movie. The fact that he has kept that same aesthetic in his movies shows he has limited creativity.
@@dash4800 Most directors have their own aesthetic though - you can tell a movie made by Ridley Scott, Quentin Tarantino or Michael Bay for instance. But I do agree that Blomkamp's particular brand is pretty janky and lame. Not sure it'd fit with the Alien universe. I think people were just desperate for ANY new Alien film rather than Blomkamp's Alien in particular. I even like what Ridley has done with Prometheus and Covenant, although it'd be good to go back to the original theme of 'running scared on an empty spaceship' just one more time before he dies!
@@joelwylde that would take the spotlight off Joe though, I wanna hear him just let his brain go wild and talk about random shit for 90% of the episode
I know there are things in the _Alien_ franchise that will never be achieved like artificial gravity and speed beyond the speed of light, but unlike a lot of other space sci-fi, the _Alien_ franchise seemed fairly realistic.
@Jeff Johnson Sort of. Depends on how you talk about it. Artificial gravity can already be made by spinning an object. But I don't think that's what the OP meant. I think he probably meant some material that makes you stick to it, a la Star Trek. Deck plates and so on. That is definitely much farther away. As for light speed, moving an object through space at light speed or faster is seemingly impossible due to Einstein's law. Mass increases as you reach light speed etc....To say that it's "possible" would mean that Einstein's laws are not correct. Which itself is possible, but from what I've read and seen, modern advances in theoretical physics keep reinforcing his laws and further proving him correct. So it certainly seems like that's not going to happen. Therefore it is fairly reasonable to conclude that man made objects moving through space at faster than light speed is impossible. But, warping time and space (again a la Star Trek) to get somewhere fast than light would, is theoretically possible in a much more realistic way. Bending the very fabric of the universe to make two points closer is the more likely solution based on what science knows now.
They talked about a hard sci fi vampire movie idea, if the whole expisode was on youtube there would have been a fundraiser for that movie by now its so good, Joe is pumped about it too.
I thought Neill Blomkamp was very respectful about David Fincher's 'Alien 3'. I still want to see Blomkamp's continuation of the survivors of Cameron's 'Aliens'.
I didn't mind Alien 3 as a standalone film, was dissapointing what they did with the plot. And nobody hates Alien 3 more than David Fincher. Think he was fired and rehired from that film at least once due to studio/creative differences, he admitted he regrets making it nowdays
I adore the "Alien" movies and I even like three a lot. I've played through Alien Isolation a couple of times and if you haven't tried it, it's pretty great.
"Vasquez, have you ever been confused for a man?" "No...have you?" CLASSIC!
Have you seen the video
Elon Musk meets Post Malone
It’s hilarious!! 👽 😂
She so hot , we didn't care she was a white woman playing a Latina unlike now culture appropriation bla bla
Wrong. “Hey Vasquez? Have you ever been mistaken for a man?”
"Hey Vasquez? Have you ever been mistaken for a man?" ... "Bitch, I identify as a man!"
@@danschuster5187 the actress isn’t white, she’s Jewish of mixed Ethnicity (not that it should matter…)
I love watching director’s who know exactly what they’re talking about. It’s just a joy.
Especially when Joe kinda doesn't.
This guy is EXTREMELY underrated in cinema. He reminds me of James Cameron, Chris Nolan, & S. Spielberg in the fact that when they make a film, you watch it because of them, not because of the actors who are in it.
Well said.
1 good movie in 15 years
Yep, I think Elysium is particularly underrated and enjoyed Chappie as well
@@MovieBadger 3 great movies in 12 years, but who’s counting.
As much as I like district 9, and I think elysium is alright. Blomkamp has no war near the filmography of any of those directors
Don't worry Neil, In my mind Ripley, Newt and Hicks are shacked up in a little place on the outer rim eating cornbread while a rebuild bishop sits in his rocking chair on the porch.
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I love this comment
Play Aliens Colonial Marines on PC, they fixed some of the bs story from Alien3.
@alejandrosilva1138 weren't they gonna retcon aliens 3?do we have an idea what the story gonna be?
@@paulsmith9192 if Blomkamp's movie had been made it would have ignored the events from Alien3 and do something else, probably 100% better and more badass but Ridley killed the project to make the crappy covenant movie. In the PC game Aliens Colonial Marines some Wayland Yutani mercenaries board the Sulaco and awake Hicks, a fight breaks out and one of the mercs ends up knocked out inside hicks hypersleep pod (dies in the crash on Fiorina 161). Hicks partners with a defector and then joins other colonial marines who arrive on LV426 to fight off Wayland Yutani forces & Aliens that survived the explosion... its not perfect but it is more satisfying and cooler than the 3rd movie. In my head this is what happened now and I don't even consider alien3 as canon.
Alien and Aliens are 2 of my favorite movies period.
What is your favorite? Alien or Aliens?
@@dirtymfnsanchez for me alien
Aliens is my favorite movie of all time. A perfect masterpiece. Alien is also a perfect masterpiece, but Aliens expands it to the next level.
Aliens is the best movie ever made
@@DerekMoore82 Alien is a scifi-horror masterpiece, Aliens is a scifi-action masterpiece.
Aliens(the second movie) is absolutely my favorite movie all time
It's an absolute classic, along with terminator and predator some of my faves. Sometimes i think It's the nostalgia but then you watch them again and they're still so good.
Come one, Joe.
Matte paintings were amazing. Better than a lot of the CG these days.
(I'm old.)
I prefer practical effects too. CGI ruins the experience when it's done poorly.
agree 100%
It's funny how Neill totally disagrees with him, but at the same time wants to keep it light, so... 😁
@@thelucasveloso Joe comes really close to embarrassing himself here. He really sounds kinda simple, which he rarely does.
joe was knocking the hd more then matte paintings tho
Neil is spot on with his thoughts on Aliens. Both films are equal in my mind as they were aimed at accomplishing different things; which they did. Two of my favorite films of all time. I so wish Neil could have taken his shot at it.
I agree, I like Alien more but I like horror more than action. Both are great examples of their genres.
@@KrikZ32 Alien is the better film. Aliens was kitsch and cartoony.
Watching ALIENS by James Cameron in Okinawa on a Military base when the film came out - The power of the crowd was a true shock & awe moment... Wish I had footage of that way back in the 80's when the film came out... So pure...
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@@alanale - Volcano's & Fireworks is what I saw & felt... With popcorn launched everywhere....& everyone reveled in it... It was intoxicating to be around it...
Man I wish I was able to see that film on its original release. I was only 7 at the time unfortunately. Must have been one of the best cinematic experiences for you. The movie is an absolute thrill ride. My first cinematic experience with the franchise was Alien 3 unfortunately. 😂🤦♂️
And the military was expendable in the movie just like in real life
"America's Dominance In Space Is Never Questioned"
I saw Alien when I was 8 years old and still love it.
It had really good cameras when capturing the footage for 1979 too.
Have you seen the video
Elon Musk meets Post Malone
It’s hilarious!! 👽 😂
Same…. Terrifying
I remember going to the videoland’s and videoworld’s here and the covers of videotapes that always got me were Predator 2, Alien and Aliens(Ripley and Nude) and i also rented them around the time i was 10
Its an iconic, timeless masterpiece of cinema that every element just works to the max
Of all the unmade movies over the years, this one is hands down the most heartbreaking to me. The concept arts are amazing visuals and they had so many original and new ideas never explored in any of the prior movies. And it would've ignored the shittier Alien movies as noncanon. It would've been a resurrection than Resurrection was. You can tell Neil Blompkamp was really passionate about the project and is a talented filmmaker. His story was so good, it made Sigourney Weaver want to return (after years of her saying she didn't wanna return since Resurrection left a bad taste in her mouth) which would seem impossible to pull off. He even wanted to make a Robocop sequel and it too sounded awesome. Why is Hollywood f*cking over this guy's talent by not producing his ideas!?! F*cking assholes. F*cking idiots!
agree, the hollowoke now is full of frauds and activist clowns, who can only exploite what the real artist made years ago, and still made garbage products. American really need to wake up and find a way to boycott all those bs so the investors can finally wake up demand something good.
Completely agree. Ridley Scott destroyed the movie Covenant.
@@samueltrompit wasn’t only Ridley Scott itvwaz the studio execs as well …
Because hollywood can't have people that aren't American making better movies.
@@shmoopoo8099 big noses tend to care only for more big noses … one look at the Harvey Weinstein Case and you’ll know enough who pulls the strings
I love old matte paintings in film. Something about the hand crafted art combined with moving image that is wonderful.
Alien is the greatest haunted house film ever made. Every jump scare is earned, every character feels authentic, the suspense is bone-chilling, the danger is always present. Nothing today can compare. Horror studios need to do their homework.
Absolutely alien was such a good movie the horror was nerveracking
Have you seen the video
Elon Musk meets Post Malone
It’s hilarious!! 👽 😂
If you’re a gamer, Alien Isolation is worth your time.
@@ensignofindustry1033 Absolutely
It’s all in the music, single shots, and timing. Those first three movies were insane.
I would love to see his take on Alien.
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Talking thrones. What up.
As long as he doesnt write it..
Better than stupid Alien: Covenant
Easy to kill? The marines were decimated fairly quickly by the Xenos Joe
Yeh they're easy to kill physically but they're cunning and can work in numbers.
"How could they cut the power, man?! They're animals!"
not to mention that they didnt have any real firearms in Alien. So, having smartguns, pulserifles, flamethrowers, pistols, shotguns, they still got their ass handed to them :)
@@Gfors85one of the key points is that the marines get tricked by the corporate guy into not being able to use their normal munitions claiming they were too close to the reactor.
they were easy to kill with the weapons the marines had but they had strength in numbers
Love this. I could talk about Alien and Aliens for hours...got so much love for those two movies
The joy on Joe's face when he talks about aliens can only be matched with the joy he has for Elon Musk.
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They're the same thing
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@Skittle Thor LMFAO...YOU Spazz.!
He would have single handedly resurrected the entire franchise to its former glory.
Instead we had that flaming dog turd Alien Covenant.
I mean he’s only made one successful movie and even that one is shitty
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@@Crichjo32 1st 45 minutes of Covenant was great. But it did take a nose dive trying to tie in story elements over 4 decades. My wife figured out the ending on her 1st viewing. She's a lefty.😉
ALIEN & ALIENS are absolutely my favorite movies EVER!! ... And I was very excited about Neil's vision of a sequel to part 2 🤘🖤🎞️🎥
Alien is an opera in movie form. The cold silence of space as the Nostromo ascends to the planet. The perfect highs and lows of the music just where it needs to be. How the camera dances through the ship catching perfect lighting. Quiet when there needs to be, with just the slightest hint of background sounds. Nothing feels out of place and every actor giving a stellar, believable performance. I'm still in amazement every time I watch it.
I miss the pre-spotify days of aliens and dmt conversation
Maybe one day when whatever Spotify contract expires, we'll get it back =\
Ya, if only he didn't still have those conversations 🙄
Ya'll just like to whine about things changing.
And, just FYI you don't pay a guy 100 million dollars for a contract that expires. That's buy out money. The only time limit will be how long *he has* to continue to make this show.
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Wonder what a xenomorph on DMT would be like.
I wish he had made his film. It sounded fantastic.
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Me too.
Go watch oats studios. It's as close as we'll get
It would have been way better than Covenant, and I love Prometheus.
Have you seen the video
Elon Musk meets Post Malone
It’s hilarious!! 👽 😂
What a great episode. Huge fan of Neill Blomkamp. Miss his his high budget sci-fi films. Hope we get to see more from him in the future.
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I could see Neill getting a little anxious to defend Aliens when Joe was ragging on it a little. I've actually always liked Aliens more than Alien, mostly because of the depth of the characters and Ripley's emotional story. I also think it's a richer film thematically with its maternal theme and Vietnam subtext. The Special Edition cut of the film is actually the better cut.
Yeah, that's because Joe has NFI what he is talking about in regards to Aliens and should stop embarassing himself.
@@djripsmusic He has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to movies in general, and he's the only one out of any of us who has actually worked in Hollywood.
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The xenomorphs are performed better in aliens. In alien he's so stiff and awkward.
@@dobi287 Are you for real!? they were 5'6" fat dudes in rubber suits
For me Aliens was amazing with the dark military feel of it and the analog style technology.
I remember there were rumours that Michael Biehn will play Hicks again.
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Biehn was in some great 80s movies. Underrated actor.
@@michaelj6392 he was one of my favourite actors.
Elysium was an awesome movie man. A truly unforgettable movie.
Agreed
@@Useaname Dont forget Hardcore Henry and District 9.....
So Eminem was originally going to play Matt Damons character with the request that the film takes place in a futureistic detroit. Im not making this up. The reason why that idea was scrapped was because it departs from Neil's original vision with the film taking place in a slum akin to joberg. Tbh, i think Eminems idea wouldve been really sick.
Yea I wish
It was alright
We all wanted to see Ripley, Hicks, Newt and Bishop do a 3rd film. Such an injustice
Joe: "What happened?"
Neill: "Disney sucks!!"
More like Ridley and Fox
Except that his Alien project was already dead by the time the Fox merger happened.
@@jordanwright2313 Yes! The reason was He who must not be openly named (who I fucking love yet feel disappointed) wanted to make prequels based on the Engineers but then they ended up not being about the Engineers. They ended up being about an android with a twisted Lawrence of Arabia complex, who created Xenomorphs! Come on!
But Disney acquisition wasn't until 2019, and plans for Alien 5 ended for Neil in 2017
@@khymaaren You ever heard a joke that wasn't true but still funny? You must be the life of the party.
The effects of the first film have aged so much better than Aliens.
Is that the one with Winona Ryder?
Yep
SERIOUSLY talented man ,District 9 is incredible , much respect
Aliens, hands down my favorite all time movie. I watch it like 4 times a year.
I miss the days of the excitement of going to the cinema and watching these big scary movies 😅
Someone remind Joe they weren't "easy to kill" in Aliens, the first time the marines run into them they literally get their "asses kicked" to quote Hudson. Wierzbowski, Apone, Crowe, Dietrich, Frost, Drake all get KIA/MIA in the first encounter with the xenomorphs. Even when they disobey orders and go weapons free the only two to be killed at that point were Crowe and Dietrich, meaning them using their weapons accelerated the hive response. People tend to forget that the xenomorphs in Aliens are not an amorphous mass of mindless bugs like in Starship Troopers but effectively an enemy military force... that use their bare hands in lieu of guns and firepower... with the Queen being effectively a general or belligerent commander/leader.
Exactly!
Yeah, but its a dry heat!
yea, that and the fact that they are all soldiers trained to kill while in the first movie there where only seven of them and they were just a regular cargo ship crew so just one xenomorph was a handful
look into my eye.
Also no one had a gun in the first alien, so it’s hard to say they were “easier” to kill in the second.
“Why didn’t you do alien?”
“Studio politics. My last movie didn’t do well. Ridley Scott”
“Yeah I get that”
They need to give him a Predator movie.
I love how Neill always puts a South African spin to all his movies or at least ties in some South Africanness to the movie. What a legend.
South African spin? Like what?
@@lxi5464 like they’re set in South Africa
@@lxi5464- It's a 3rd world country. His movies have that vibe.
My girlfriend lives there. I hear all the stories.
@@robtintelnot9107 I see. Thanks!
I'm the opposite. I don't like the aesthetic. I find it ugly and bland.
At least he tried to get Joe excited about matte paintings haha
Joe was criticizing matte paintings but both Alien and Aliens have special FX that seem timeless IMO.
It must’ve been the first time he’s seen a matte painting in a film 😂😂😂
This is an underrated episode. Great podcast to listen to on Spotify.
yeah Neill interviews well, really good listener and very articulate
I was so jacked to see this interview! Alien/s is my absolute favorite movies of all time!
Classy Joe referring to a matte painting as “bullshit”
The fact that they were impressively constructed and composed into shots that they fooled ur minded for 30+ years is astounding. but sure joe its bs, the films didnt plan to be seen on bluray lol.
Someone should ask Joe what the hell is wrong with him - like why doesn't he look 20 anymore?
Have you seen the video
Joe Rogan gets mad at Alex Jones
It’s hilarious! 😡 😂
Why is everyone so pissed in the comments? You hardcore Aliens fans are crazy
To this day, the best gift I've ever received was from a girl I was dating in like 2003, when I was 18. She got me the Alien Quadrilogy 9-disc boxed set that came with the four movies, both the theatrical and special edition/director's cut of each. But even better, it had five discs of extra content. Hours and hours and hours of behind the scenes, making of, commentary and interviews, and all kinds of just awesome little snippets of random stuff hidden in secret buttons littered throughout the menus. It was truly awesome. I'll have to dig that out and watch all that stuff again here soon!
I hope you married her?!
Reading that literally got me in the mood for a whole Alien marathon.
i have that boxset also, the making of documentries are excellent
I have that too! If you don't have the Prometheus collector's edition Blu-ray I'd highly recommend that as well. There's a MASSIVE documentary on the making of the film that's one of the best I've ever seen. I'm pretty sure it's almost 3 hours long and covers everything from concept art and storyboarding to post production, all shot inside the studios.
I have this too. A good friend of mine bought it for me and I watch it every other month.
I still love matte paintings. I still love stop-motion effects. Need to keep using this stuff, just like practical effects, combined with CGI. Just adds layers of texture to everything.
I remember hearing about this and seeing all the drawing concepts. Was so excited until I heard that it got canceled.
I’ve never been more hyped for anything than the moment the first concept images were released
@@bquick94 yeah Ripleys grasshopper helmet was pretty dope.
The concept art for it is awesome.
Yeah.
"The problem with Aliens is-"
That it's just not long enough. Totally agree, Joe.
Game over man!
One of the greatest dialogue scripts ever!
Best sequel ever.
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@@alansmith4655 turned a horror into a full blown epic
Did Joe even watch 'Aliens'?
Bumbling? Dietrich got snatched up by that sneaky boi in the wall causing her to torch Frost and ignite the bag of ammo. Wierzbowski probably got snatched up too as he's heard screaming alone in the distance. Who could forget the pack of sneaky bois in the ceiling, the one that sneaked around the marines to attack Ripley and Newt, and the one under the floor that got Hudson? There is also the sneaky boi behind the door that got Burke. Not to mention the one that was hiding in the water and snatched Newt. Even the big ass queen sneaked into the dropship before they escaped. Far from bumbling.
There is a huge difference with a single alien needing to keep itself in the shadows compared to an infestation of them working as a hivemind horde.
Easy to kill? With the arms and equipment the marines had I would hope so. They went in with a purpose. The arms alone made all the difference. So much that Ripley was able to do the do without being trained as a soldier. The crew on the Nostromo didn't have that luxury and had no idea they would be facing such a predator.
'Alien' is a sci-fi horror. 'Aliens' is a sci-fi action adventure thriller. They're not even the same genre.
Agree
No he’s 100% correct. The aliens don’t seem NEARLY as deadly as the xeno from the first film.
@@vhscopyofseinfeldmost likely because they was fighting marines with space guns and grenades and special training compared to simple working people on a ship that woke from hyper sleep 🤣🤣🤣
Joe: "So what happened?"
Neill: "Oh you know, studio politics. Ridley was being a little bitch and crying I would destroy his shitty canon story of his with a better version."
Pretty much this. I'm sure Neil is being very diplomatic here, but from what I've heard, Scott is the one who nixed his film.
@@cine-mechanic8589 Yes, unfortunately:-( And gave us Covenant instead ?! I like Scott's work but only sick egomaniak or senile person can do this. I feel so sorry for Neil and for all of us - Alien fans.
@@cine-mechanic8589 He's more than diplomatic here.
He's also pretty modest admitting than Chappie might not helped here as well.
It was not really a good movie.
For sure not in comparison to his great debut.
It felt like it was done for Die Antwoord, so they can sit down and jerk off to it watching themselves on screen.
I am sure studio would rather go with Ridley's prequels idea anyway, even without him bitching about it.
What's sad they both kind of got f*cked.
Blomkamp's Alien was not even considered, but Convenant from what I know was far far away from Scott's initial idea for Prometheus' sequel (thanks to studio and unhappy Alien die hard fans).
Hopefuly one day he will be able to make his Alien flick.
I think the idea of sequel to Aliens, in which Ripley and Newt are both alive is great.
Cheers!
The fact blomkamp doesn't know who created alien tho is alarming. I mean newb ignorance level alarming. And he was gonna helm the franchise? Mnnnnn
probably what happened. Ridley probably went it's my way or the high way. which is stupid, they could have had Prometheus which is set in the past and also have the new Alien movie done by Blomkamp
"Aliens" is still one of my favorite sci-fi movies ever made. If they just remade that it would crush!
Alien and Aliens should Never ever ever be remade.
Not ever,...ever fucking ever fucking ever.
Cheers
they should save remakes for movies that aren't already incredible. It's highly unlikely they'd do better than the original.
These days when I watch a JRE I am often left thinking “Did the JRE change…or did I change?” - but this was pre-Spotify Joe…
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everything is constantly changing, but I don't find JRE that different now to back when it was on youtube
@@KrikZ32 literally. He's the same, just different platform
Wish there were comments on Spotify though. One of the best parts of show is fan reactions. He doesn’t admit to being an idiot enough anymore. Money has begun to swell his head.
You did. The Spotify Joe is basically the same. You don’t like change
Alien (1979) is definitely in my top five. It is timeless from the dialog to the set everything fits given the context the viewer is presented within the movie. I absolutely love the scene Harry Dean Stanton (Brett) and Yaphet Kotto (Parker) are talking to where Sigourney Weaver (Ripley)
about their share and the whole steam valve thing is them trying to mess with her. It's thing like this that really made me buy the whole 'merchant vessel' setup. I also had an opportunity to listen Yaphet speak once. It was really interesting. Would have loved to see Blomkamp's take.
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Fun fact: Blade runner, alien and predator, was part of the same universe.
Blade runner???
That’s not true but okay
@@richardtyson100 Ridley Scott says that in a rare old interview 30 years ago.
@@richardtyson100 if u watch the sequel the SULACO is clear,y seen flying above the Las Vegas desert
@@richardtyson100 actually it is true. Scott referred to it in several,interviews. If u watch closely in the blade runner sequel the SULACO is clearly seen flying above the Las Vegas desert
District 9 is a great scifi film. If he could make alien on that level then i will definitely watch it.
Swamp Gas.
Alien destroys district 9
That film was basically a cheap rip off of Half Life 2
Half Life 2 movie played by Hugh Laurie would be great with Chris Walken as Gman
D9 was too political. they really need to cut out the constant feminist bs, and constant global warming fear mongering in movies
such a shame this never happened
alien was horror; aliens was action-adventure. two totally different genres and beasts
nah...they were all sci-fi ...horror is a matter of perspective, but there was no mystical or fantasy element to "Alien" ...unlike horror. ...And the ideas about military bio-weaponry and/or an optimally-efficient parasite aren't explored in movies like "Halloween" or "Texas Chainsaw Massacre"
Aliens had strong horror elements too. Action-adventure is something like Indiana Jones. As a kid, I was more scared by Aliens than Alien. The facehuggers etc. are fucking digusting to date, how it's not horror? Chestbursters, jump scares, all that. Just because Aliens is not the most hardcore horror by today's standards and has some shootouts, doesn't mean it's not mostly horror. More like action-horror, than action-adventure. Where as Alien was pure horror
@@JakeWitmer Scifi horror. Not all horror has super natural elements, for example SAW.
@@shredd5705 I can agree with that. I approach it more from a Kurzweilian standpoint, largely from a standpoint of viewing the entire genre of horror as time-wasting bullshit. (And this comes from a person who nonetheless respects the bootstrapping cinematic achievements of Rob Zombie, John Carpenter, George Romero, and others like them.)
I like the thoughts I have from considering the shell of the Alien to be carbon or diamondoid, and from considering it to be a bio-weapon, and to consider bioweapon programming to be an interesting concept, especially as a DNA-using parasite that can "adapt to any enemy that uses DNA" ...and thinking through some of the ways space travel was presented.
...I don't like the thoughts I have from thinking of the alien as "a monster that can't be dealt with rationally" ...in the model of other Hollywood monsters.
For this reason, I somewhat like certain "sci-fi horror" but my appreciation of other sorts of "horror" has been diminished by rational reflection.
...If the protagonist can keep their wits about them, might that not be considered the optimal lens through which to view whatever is "horrific" in such a movie? Maybe just "sci fi" is appropriate, no matter how difficult the conflict presented, or how horrific the creatures under consideration appear to be.
In real life, we're surrounded by political evil, and the evil is rather untenable (metaphorically horror-movie-like ..."Hellraiser" "Sin City" "Dawn of the Dead" "The Counselor"). ...But it's not actually supernatural, and increased intelligence always reveals at least a _possible_ path to victory (sci-fi-like..."Alien" "Terminator" "Aliens" "The Thing").
Sorry to nerd out on this one, but it's something I find entertaining to think about.
Its about time he has this dude on 🔥🔥🔥
Ooh, nice. Another episode I will listen to all of. I like his movies.
Back in the early 2000's, James Cameron wrote a draft for an Alien 5 for Ridley Scott to direct but Fox abandoned it to pursue Alien V Predator.
What a colossal blunder in retrospect
I was hoping they would have just made the AVP movie they were going to make in the 90's that coincided with the AVP arcade game from capcom. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ oh well
A hilarious tidbit is that they only ditched the Cameron-Scott Alien 5 for AvP because Freddy vs Jason did well in the box office. The entire production was rushed and only took a few months.
I doubt Ridley would wipe his ass with a Cameron script after what he did with the Alien
Yep and it happened because the Freddy vs. Jason was a hit so Fox was like "Aha! Crossovers! That's what the audience wants.... not a Ridley Scott and James Cameron movie with Sigourney Weaver!". Studio execs are morons.
Great guy, great interview. Love his movies..
I am a HUGE fan of the Alien franchise and would love to see NB's take on it but his short Zygote presented something horrifying that makes me just want more of that.
Xenomorphs are the apex of creative art
They’re meant to be sexually horrifying.
Rip HR Geiger. I believe there is a restaurant in Germany that the decor is in the “Alien” style
Matte paintings are amazing and beautiful works of art!
This man is brilliant and can't wait to see his next film.
Practical effects hold up so well.
In a vacuum, all three of the original films are amazing in their own way.
Isn't Alien 3 one of David Fincher's weakest films, if not the weakest?
@@SirBlackReeds Yeah, but even Fincher's weakest film is still pretty good.
@@SirBlackReeds Debatable. The studio interfered with him every step of the way. There is a great documentary about the shitshow going on behind the scene. You can watch the Fincher "Directors Cut" online which is the definitive version of the film which is as close as you will get to seeing Finchers original vision for the film.
Alien 3 was decent. Resurrection was fun.
So true. Three and only three.
I’m not sure there’s a movie I have watched more than Aliens. Love the first one too. It’s hurt me to see where the franchise has gone since. Neil picking up from Aliens would’ve been an absolute dream. His vision sounds perfect
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Yup. Alien and Aliens were great the rest were kind of crap. I can't count how many times I've also watched them.
The only good Alien movie is Alien. Fuck Aliens.
@Hunter Jude Prometheus and covenant are just propaganda to make more people believe in Alien than God.
I genuinely appreciate Joe Rogan and these pod casts ! Gets me through 3 or 4 hours work in the mornings
If you're getting paid to work don't you think you should be working and not listening to shit on the internet?🤔.... just a thought
My dad used to take me to all these great double and triple features back in the day in San Francisco. Remember seeing Alien, The Thing (Carpenter), The Howling, sprinkled in with poorer B stuff like The Mausoleum, Motel Hell, etc. Those were the days.
Unpopular opinion: I have my favorites, obviously, but I actually enjoyed all versions and spin-offs in the Alien franchise. So in that regard, more is better for me.
I agree all fun films, same with the predator films, I enjoyed the last predator film because it was funny a surprising change some annoying bits but the humour wasnt the worst parts
Totally agree they were all fantastic
@oh no is that what they play in Hell?
Same. The only one I didn't enjoy was Resurrection, but there were still some fun parts. Alien, Prometheus and Covenant are all incredible, Aliens is great, and the director's/Fincher cut of Alien 3 is brilliant too.
Can’t wait for District 10.
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I can’t wait to not see it!
@@Mat-threw woooow. You’re soo fucking cool and baddass and edgy wooow .. would love to see the masterpieces that you have created.. wooow how do you come up with such meaningful things to say...
I watched Alien and Aliens in the movie theatre first run, and then years later when I was in South Korea I got to see Alien again after it was approved by the Korean censors. Full house with people allowed to stand in the aisles and fold up chairs between where ever.... Amazing the reaction of people who had never seen Alien. Even though it was edited to meet Korean censor regulations it still was scary as hell nonetheless.
I'm surprised to hear South Korea has such strict censors ... I guess your story is going back like 35 years or thereabouts ?
I was 8 in 1986 and saw Aliens in the theater at an AMC. It was scary as hell, but also a lot of fun, at the same time. Those summers back in the 80's with all the smash hits had a magic that's been lost.
Watching the characters interaction with each other in the original Alien movie always impressed me. They really act like theyre just at work and just doing a job which created a level of realism and immersiveness. I could almost see myself as part of that crew because it was so relatable as if id worked with that crew before many times. They dont really take the time for that level of character development anymore.
Can’t tell you why but I want a reboot of pumpkin head with practical effects
Supposed to be a reboot in the works, love the original..
Loved that as a kid. Even early in the movie you just know them kids on the dirt bikes got trouble coming. Lol
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I so wanted Neill's movie. Prometheus and Covenant are both convoluted backstory that the original movies didn't need.
Have you seen the video
Joe Rogan gets mad at Alex Jones
It’s hilarious! 😡 😂
I thought they were both great even if Covenant was a tad too derivative.
I loved the backstory
Prometheus was a work of art sir. Covenant sucked ass though.
OP: wah!!! I don't want story...I want guns & big explosions!!!
James Cameron originally worked in FX on movies like Escape from New York so he pulled out all the stops for Aliens. Knowing that those matte paintings are hand done makes them feel pretty special imo and also even when you know they're a matte painting they still tend to age better than a lot of CGI has because we've been able to make paintings look wonderful for a really long time. That's a cool guest to have on, and a interesting interview
The concept art of the Xenomorphs with VR helmets on looked so good
My only problem with ALIENS was how much the xenomorphs were diminished just to be fodder for screams and muzzle flares.
In the original they're more akin to Elderitch creatures, and had an insane regeneration capability.
Even after Ripley fried it with the ships thrusters, it was hinted that it was possibly still alive, but now trapped in open space. Healing and going into a hibernation-comatose state, free to be rediscovered.
I personally liked part 3, Lesser evil vs Greater evil premise and the fact that the Xenomorph was brought back to its menacing potential. I just wish Newt and Hicks survived.
I'm also cool with the idea of that being a nightmare Ripley experienced when in deep sleep.
Cameron turned them into Hedge Hogs you whacked with a club when they popped out. And THAT is why their mystique faded.
1,3,4 and Prometheus are great. Need to rewatch the covenant though
I really dont understand this take on aliens. The aliens absolutely destroyed the marines with tactics and ambushing. Yes obviously the destructive capability of humanity at this point would be ridiculous, so when these two things collide we get Aliens. It all makes perfect sense and fits nicely.
@@CrusaderLogan Because Aliens destroyed a great universe, with a shitty script, dialogue & unimaginative take on the alien
The original alien showed how weak & fragile humanity actually is in the unknown expanse of space,
Cameron's low IQ unimaginative take was literally an episode of the A team
@@nihilistlivesmatter the aliens movie was about how no matter how superior the technology the humans have, they can't outmatch the terrible cleverness of xenomorphs who sent the marines packing in body bags with just their claws and ambushing/swarming tactics.
@@CrusaderLogan You don't understand what an Elderitch creature is or what Regeneration (A healing factor) is?
Here lets see if I can break it down;
Movie one - One creature; incredibly smart and rapidly heals when you hurt it. And you're trapped with it in space.
Understand?.. its like fighting Cthulhu & Wolverine, only its a wild monster.
Movie two - They're turned into Gremlins with steroids so some soldiers can go HOORAY!! and shoot off guns, as they dropped by the dozens.
Xenomorphs shouldn't fall beneath Raptors in Jurassic Park, as monsters.
The Parole officer scene in Elysium is one of the freakiest scenes in Sci fi because it seems like something that is going to be reality very soon
Alien and Bladerunner are some of the best movies ever made period...Scott’s golden era of movies 🔥🔥
I don't remember much about the series but the one scene that really stuck with me is when she got into the robot suit and fought the alien.
Think that scene is probably the most memorable for many people, the entire Metroid franchise was spawned from that one scene.
I don't love this guy's movies at all, but I appreciate that he genuinely cared about the franchise. Even if his movie failed, it would have been worth the effort to make and I would have watched it.
Have you seen the video
Elon Musk meets Post Malone
It’s hilarious!! 👽 😂 😆
Which of his movies have you tried?
@@Zackaria_sMax I watched District 9 and I thought it was good up until the end where it felt like it discarded its interesting social commentary disguised as sci-fi strategy to become a big dumb action movie with lots of splosions. It wasn't a bad movie, but it let down my expectations I had from the first 2/3rds of the movie. Then I watched Elysium and it felt like it abandoned anything interesting to say to become a dumb action movie almost immediately. Chappie... I think I watched Redlettermedia's review and it just looked terrible. Like I said though, I'd rather watch a movie that tries to be something and fails than watch a movie that never aspired to be anything more than schlock in the first place. So listening to him talk about an Alien movie makes me wish he could have had the chance to make it, even though I might not have ended up liking it. Despite what I've said, I would sooner watch Chappie than the next Fast and the Furious.
@@WadeStar So your criticism of his work is that he made them action movies?
I'm not saying you don't have the right to an opinion, you think what you think, but they were always marketed as exactly what they turned out to be, action sci-fi movies first, set against a backdrop that possibly makes some deeper statements about human nature.
I guess I'm saying I don't understand your disappointment, they were exactly what it said on the box.
(I agree Chappie was utterly terrible, couldn't finish it)
@@Ignitionite No. That would be absurd. But I do dislike when a good movie turns into a dumb action movie, or anything good degrades into something less good, regardless of the genre(s) in question. Next, District 9 wasn't marketed to me at all. I never saw a single trailer. It was entirely word of mouth and much of that praise focused on the more interesting first 2/3rds of the movie so I'm not alone in thinking that was the best part of the movie. I liked how it started, expected it to be one thing, it turned into something else at the end that I felt was less original, interesting, or compelling. The mechwarrior fight at the end felt contrived and it's very telling that no one who recommended the movie recommended it because of that part of the movie.
After watching Elysium, my impression that this guy just wants to have a robot fight in all his movies cemented. Again, I don't dislike robot fights. I just want the robot fight to belong in the movie. I didn't feel like that belonged in District 9. "Because alien technology" wasn't a very good reason for me. Finally, Elysium was a dumb action movie. I felt it was sold to me as a smart action movie. It wasn't. You win again marketing! Anyway I felt he took the weakest aspect of District 9 and chose to make that his focus in Elysium rather than taking the best aspects of District 9 and developing those. I haven't watched any of his stuff since. But I'd give his next movie a shot after this interview.
Now I'd like to help explain my disappointment despite what might be "on the box" or how something is marketed. Art speaks for itself. The intent of the artist, the marketing, etc. doesn't matter. It's the artwork itself that must stand on its own. Do you think we judge whether Shakespeare, DaVinci, or Michelangelo's art is good based on what was promised "on the box"? Of course you don't because that would be absurd. Here's a counter example: I went into The Dark Knight and The Witcher expecting very little. In fact, I expected The Witcher to be bad. But I liked it and I recommend it (not because it's cerebral, but because it's good, fun action with an unpretentious yet compelling story). So clearly expectations don't override whether I will like something or be disappointed in it. I can watch something with one expectation, have that expectation not be met, and still like it for what it is. I watched The Kid Detective thinking it was a comedy... I'd say it was even marketed as such, but I'd also say it was definitely *not* a comedy, but still an excellent movie. Not a good date night movie, as I found out the hard way.
tl;dr Good art never disappoints, no matter what's on the box.
Joe's out of his depth here talking about alien. He sounds like a dad trying to connect with his kid over Fortnite
LMFAO I know, someone tell him the xenomorphs in Aliens aren't as weak as they're portrayed in the AVP movies or Resurrection. At least Covenant had the decency to show how resilient they are.
Been watching the series with my son over the last month, the first one remains perfect, the rest remain frustrating, but have enough of Gieger’s dream remaining to make them eternally fascinating
Resurrection gets a lot of (deserved) shit. BUT those last 10 minutes does something ALIEN did, that none of the other sequels could- it makes you COMPLETELY uncomfortable.
Love your work! And I was laughing at you skewering Commie Mark on Adams show the other day haha
Aliens is one of those movies that I could watch over and over.
I want him to make that Halo Movie
It would probably involve 343 ...
if i was a billionaire id fund blomkamps movies and tell him to go nuts, make whatever he wanted
because when you a genuinely trying to make new stuff, sometimes ppl wont like it
but everything he's done has been interesting
Completely agree. And he would be a neat one to gamble on with or without a return.
And sometimes people THINK they won't like it, so it never gets made, so people never find out if they would have liked that new thing you made.
More money isnt better he had 115 million for elysium and 50 million for chappie. Studios gave him money and he kept going further off the reservation. He had one good movie in him that was aided by props and art created for the halo movie. The fact that he has kept that same aesthetic in his movies shows he has limited creativity.
@@dash4800 Most directors have their own aesthetic though - you can tell a movie made by Ridley Scott, Quentin Tarantino or Michael Bay for instance. But I do agree that Blomkamp's particular brand is pretty janky and lame. Not sure it'd fit with the Alien universe. I think people were just desperate for ANY new Alien film rather than Blomkamp's Alien in particular. I even like what Ridley has done with Prometheus and Covenant, although it'd be good to go back to the original theme of 'running scared on an empty spaceship' just one more time before he dies!
"It's Ridley's world." As soon as Cameron came on board, that became null and void.
Timeless classic!
How good would an episode be of just Rogan smoking a blunt and talking about conspiracys with Jamie for an hour
@oh no you would have a better chance of people clicking your link if you say what it is lol
Nah jamie sucks when it comes to that. Cognitive dissonance it really bothers him
@@pleasantvalley85 Oh really? I thought he'd for sure be into conspiracy stuff seeing as he works with Joe 😂
With Eddie Bravo would be a much better ep
@@joelwylde that would take the spotlight off Joe though, I wanna hear him just let his brain go wild and talk about random shit for 90% of the episode
Neill's films are always interesting. Dude is a visionary filmmaker.
Yeah and he got knighted basically by Peter fucking Jackson like what else do you want hollywood
Alien is literally the only movie I purchased digitally on youtube so I could watch it whenever I need to scratch that sci fi horror itch
His subtle style of show, don’t tell would work hauntingly well with Aliens.
Alien is a Classic
I know there are things in the _Alien_ franchise that will never be achieved like artificial gravity and speed beyond the speed of light, but unlike a lot of other space sci-fi, the _Alien_ franchise seemed fairly realistic.
Artificial gravity is possible just so costly its not being done
@Jeff Johnson Sort of. Depends on how you talk about it. Artificial gravity can already be made by spinning an object. But I don't think that's what the OP meant. I think he probably meant some material that makes you stick to it, a la Star Trek. Deck plates and so on. That is definitely much farther away.
As for light speed, moving an object through space at light speed or faster is seemingly impossible due to Einstein's law. Mass increases as you reach light speed etc....To say that it's "possible" would mean that Einstein's laws are not correct. Which itself is possible, but from what I've read and seen, modern advances in theoretical physics keep reinforcing his laws and further proving him correct. So it certainly seems like that's not going to happen. Therefore it is fairly reasonable to conclude that man made objects moving through space at faster than light speed is impossible.
But, warping time and space (again a la Star Trek) to get somewhere fast than light would, is theoretically possible in a much more realistic way. Bending the very fabric of the universe to make two points closer is the more likely solution based on what science knows now.
Where is there speed beyond the speed of light in the Alien franchise? I don’t think that’s a thing.
@@doublestrokeroll Bismuth vibrated correctly will lose mass as speed builds, so time dilation can't be a bother
@@BoycottChinaa OK. So what does that mean?
They talked about a hard sci fi vampire movie idea, if the whole expisode was on youtube there would have been a fundraiser for that movie by now its so good, Joe is pumped about it too.
Anything Neil does it's a gem
I was always bummed out this dude’s Alien never came about.
I thought Neill Blomkamp was very respectful about David Fincher's 'Alien 3'. I still want to see Blomkamp's continuation of the survivors of Cameron's 'Aliens'.
I honestly think Alien 3 is underrated and doesnt get the respect it deserves as an "art film".
I didn't mind Alien 3 as a standalone film, was dissapointing what they did with the plot. And nobody hates Alien 3 more than David Fincher. Think he was fired and rehired from that film at least once due to studio/creative differences, he admitted he regrets making it nowdays
I adore the "Alien" movies and I even like three a lot. I've played through Alien Isolation a couple of times and if you haven't tried it, it's pretty great.
Neill Blomkamp's Aliens time-line alteration, is a universe i've wanted to see for 20 years