I don't care how old you are here, this will always bring out the little boy within you my great-grandfather used to work for the Great Northern Railroad Company
Very impressed with the engine, train and the video. Well done! I've seen this train a few times on the Banff Calgary run but never west of Lake Loiise.
Superb job. Rainy cold days and steam locomotives go well together. Thanks, from one that that’s been photographing and videoing locomotives for 50 years. This video is expert class!!
Ok, I don't care if steam engines are "less efficient" or "harder to use"... we need to bring these back into service. I like diesel locomotives, but this is freaking majestic. I could literally watch this all day.
I saw CP2816 at Steamtown in Scraton, PA before it was returned to Canada. This video answers the questions I had at that time regarding its performance ability. Thanks, simply impressive!
Thank you for sharing that with us. That steam plume spells C-O-L-D!! It takes a skilled hand to work the engine up that grade without slipping. When we were kids in Montreal they used to run steam excursions behind CN 6060 and CN 6218. In warm weather, they used old cars where you could open the windows, or we'd stand in the vestibiles with the top half of the door open - we'd be picking soot out of our hair for days afterwards. But oh what fun. Not much of that any more, at least not in Eastern Canada.
There's nothing quite like a steam loco on a cold still day. I would have been even better had there been sun in the shot. You can't have everything! Nice footage.
I used to love hearing my late father tell me the story of how he crossed the Canadian Rockies in the winter of 1951 behind one (and sometimes two) CPRR 2-10-4 Selkirks. I still have his photos. I wish I could have been there.
super ! dramatic! magnificent! she did have a hard time climbing the heavy grade in Montreal West some years ago. She made it with a lot of stack noise;.
Hey, this is serious steam, couldn't you tell from the sound that it was slowly ACCELERATING as it climbed the hill? I know I can, I know I can, I know I can, I know I can !!! ;- )
You got lucky with the weather there! Absolutely perfect conditions for filming steam, how many times does the wind end up blowing steam and smoke all over the place at the crucial moment? Looks like a nice place to take a trip behind a steam loco.
The cold sure does make for some dramatic output from that regal old beauty. The steam just hangs around for so long before dissipating. I'm watching and wondering just how much water that thing is evaporating and what sort of heat is required to do that. Love to know the KW rating of a steamers Boiler.
I think it says something about the steaming capacity of these beasts that he's just climbed that whole grade and he's running with the steam valve open to let the excess steam off! I guess the only time you need the full steaming ability is when you're running at 70mph.
Steam trains are still better than diesel trains at some things. They are quieter than diesel locomotives! This is one of the steepest grades at trains. This is very steep!
Quieter than diesel? How do you figure that? Stack blast is loud as hell. Maybe you can't feel it in the ground 5 miles away like diesels, but it ain't quiet.
The Spiral Tunnels are about 15 Km / 10 miles west of where the above video was filmed. The link takes you to a Great Video, 3 big steamers, probably 2-10-4's, pulling a big train up 2.2%
Fabulous ! I have a video I made of it's inaugural run between Salmon Arm & Banff plus some extra. It's long. 1 hr 17 min. How do you upload a video like this without it taking forever? Will a Video_TS file do it much quicker ?
+john72ss Tractive effort figure I've seen for a Royal Hudson is 45,300 lb., PEAK. Actual TE will depend on a bunch of factors such as cutoff (actual angular duration of steam inlet for the power stroke.) So TE figure is essentially for starting, beyond which it will drop. At startup, power output = 0. Power output for a recip steamer depends very much on wheel speed (totally unlike with diesel-electrics). You could calculate it as TE x speed / 550 ft-lb/sec for output hp. Hudsons were designed as high-speed steam-raisers, so we're watching it well below its power-peak. Back in the day, CP used oil-burning 2-10-4 Selkirks hauling passengers in the mts., often in multiple.
The maximum speed as shown in a CPR timetable from the 40's that I had showed 90 mph. But they were capable of a little more than that. They only had 75" drivers, so they weren't a super high speed steamer like the CPR 'Jubilees' with their 80" drivers. It was one of those - 3003 - that set a longstanding Canadian steam speed record of 112.5 mph that wasn't broken until '76 by a Via Rail LRC train.
They need to bring these beautiful things back into operation. Just listen to that thing. My my my! Driving one of these things is how I would protest this stupid carbon tax.
"I hear the train a-coming, it's rolling round the bin, and I ain't seen the sunshine since.. I don't know when. I'm stuck in Folsom Prison"............
Great video, love the Chug sound... just waiting for some Eco-freak idiot to comment on how horrible this video is, "just look at all that smoke, how awful..."
Now, that is one well-fired locomotive!
I don't care how old you are here, this will always bring out the little boy within you my great-grandfather used to work for the Great Northern Railroad Company
Very impressed with the engine, train and the video. Well done! I've seen this train a few times on the Banff Calgary run but never west of Lake Loiise.
It's all making it's own weather above it👍👍
I never knew that trains were able to create their own weather system. :-) Great video.
I was thinking exactly the same when watching that magnificent steam cloud, it's a micro climate.
LMAO lol
Those are chemtrails!!
You, sir, did a splendid job on this video. It is perfect. Thank you for taking in that whole majestic steam plume.
This is now a "Classic" scene as this viewpoint has been eliminated due to widening of the Trans-Canada Highway. Enjoy!
Superb job. Rainy cold days and steam locomotives go well together. Thanks, from one that that’s been photographing and videoing locomotives for 50 years. This video is expert class!!
Ok, I don't care if steam engines are "less efficient" or "harder to use"... we need to bring these back into service. I like diesel locomotives, but this is freaking majestic. I could literally watch this all day.
In tourist or passenger service, sure, but they’ll probably never return to fright service.
One can outwork 3 diesel electric engines. 😮
I saw CP2816 at Steamtown in Scraton, PA before it was returned to Canada. This video answers the questions I had at that time regarding its performance ability. Thanks, simply impressive!
Thank you for sharing that with us. That steam plume spells C-O-L-D!! It takes a skilled hand to work the engine up that grade without slipping.
When we were kids in Montreal they used to run steam excursions behind CN 6060 and CN 6218. In warm weather, they used old cars where you could open the windows, or we'd stand in the vestibiles with the top half of the door open - we'd be picking soot out of our hair for days afterwards. But oh what fun. Not much of that any more, at least not in Eastern Canada.
The big clouds of white steam are SO pretty.
There's nothing quite like a steam loco on a cold still day. I would have been even better had there been sun in the shot. You can't have everything! Nice footage.
At 4:17 it sounds just like he luged it down an then down shifted.... just like you would do if your where pulling a big hill in a old mack 👍👍
Excellent work by the train crew Rowan, and some superb camera work from yourself....Truly steam at its best...Bob
It doesn't get any better than this.
Fantastic video! The stack talk is like music! The rear observation car, Lambert's Point, is now owned by Milwaukee Road 261's people.
Stunning. Beautiful. Don’t know what hormone gets released when I hear that sound, but it sure gets me going!!!!!
it's really neat to see how the exhaust plume dances side to side with the blast nozzles as each cylinder exhausts
Good Job of the staff.....right Power in the right time....great Video also ...i Love Steam machines...
Love The old locomotive
I love a cloud of steam bellowing over a locomotive as it works as hard as it was meant to
I went to school on a steam train in the 50s in England Nothing like this but what memories it brings back.Soul on wheels
Beautiful video!! Beautiful scenery, beautiful train. Makes me want to visit Canada.
Me too! And I live here!
Great video with a lot of nice steam and fantastic sound!
Kilian
I used to love hearing my late father tell me the story of how he crossed the Canadian Rockies in the winter of 1951 behind one (and sometimes two) CPRR 2-10-4 Selkirks. I still have his photos. I wish I could have been there.
Perfect vid, I love watching steam trains. Watching the steam through the trees raised my anticipation to see the engine :-))
All the thumbs down ...i dont see how anuone could give this a thumbs down ..its beautiful !
Some people are just mean, miserable and obnoxious.
super ! dramatic! magnificent! she did have a hard time climbing the heavy grade in Montreal West some years ago. She made it with a lot of stack noise;.
bootiful
Excellent job man. Nailed it!
I can only agree looks beautifulmat that or any time of the year
3:55 You can hear her saying it: "I think I can - I think I can..."
Beautiful video!!!!
The whole time I just kept saying "I think I can, I think I can, I think I can" along with beat of the train. It matches perfectly!
Wow!!! A freaking +!!! Just fantastic!!! 👍👍👍
How beautiful .
THAT WAS AMAZING
absolutely beautiful!
This is a wicked catch
Sure a diesel would make this grade easy, but wouldn't be a tenth as impressive.
Hey, this is serious steam, couldn't you tell from the sound that it was slowly ACCELERATING as it climbed the hill?
I know I can, I know I can, I know I can, I know I can !!!
;- )
Nick name would be good ..puff the magic fire box 👍👍
I think I can, I think I can I think I can. great vid thanks
At 2:36, you can hear the wheels slip.
nice footage of a 464 at work, I love the sound! too bad that fur tree was in the way at the end! lol!
You got lucky with the weather there! Absolutely perfect conditions for filming steam, how many times does the wind end up blowing steam and smoke all over the place at the crucial moment? Looks like a nice place to take a trip behind a steam loco.
Very cool. i hope the 2816 can make it to train festival 2011.
The cold sure does make for some dramatic output from that regal old beauty. The steam just hangs around for so long before dissipating. I'm watching and wondering just how much water that thing is evaporating and what sort of heat is required to do that. Love to know the KW rating of a steamers Boiler.
Magnificent!
Yeh, you used to know when the choo-choo was coming!
Awesome video!
I wish I could have seen this while I was there. . .
Love the chug!
The ditch lights are turned off.
How exciting its a train on tracks doing what trains do.
I don't understand rail fans,k what makes trains worth filming?
I think I can I think I can I think I can I think I can...
I think it says something about the steaming capacity of these beasts that he's just climbed that whole grade and he's running with the steam valve open to let the excess steam off! I guess the only time you need the full steaming ability is when you're running at 70mph.
What a beauty...
Not much wind on that day.
this is the only way to see steam
Steam trains are still better than diesel trains at some things. They are quieter than diesel locomotives! This is one of the steepest grades at trains. This is very steep!
Quieter than diesel? How do you figure that? Stack blast is loud as hell. Maybe you can't feel it in the ground 5 miles away like diesels, but it ain't quiet.
Diesels perform much better up grades because of the power output from the motors at low speed.
Cool video
Here is the spiral tunnels from 1948
Spiral Tunnels Field British Columbia Canada
The Spiral Tunnels are about 15 Km / 10 miles west of where the above video was filmed. The link takes you to a Great Video, 3 big steamers, probably 2-10-4's, pulling a big train up 2.2%
brings back a lot of memmorys
CP 2816 was nicknamed CPR's Empress I have a great video of it being completely restored from the ground up.
Is it okay if I can post a clip of this video on TikTok? I’ll give you credit.
Fabulous ! I have a video I made of it's inaugural run between Salmon Arm & Banff plus some extra. It's long. 1 hr 17 min. How do you upload a video like this without it taking forever? Will a Video_TS file do it much quicker ?
That would a fantastic video. I know nothing about YT, but I hope you post it.
Little slip at 2:37.......how much horsepower is this thing equivalent too?
+Thedeoradude According to wikipedia, it's 4,700. Pretty crazy stuff.
+sstocker31 most of the steam locomotives were rated in tractive effort, rarely in hp those can range from 80,000 up near 200,000
+john72ss Tractive effort figure I've seen for a Royal Hudson is 45,300 lb., PEAK. Actual TE will depend on a bunch of factors such as cutoff (actual angular duration of steam inlet for the power stroke.) So TE figure is essentially for starting, beyond which it will drop. At startup, power output = 0.
Power output for a recip steamer depends very much on wheel speed (totally unlike with diesel-electrics). You could calculate it as TE x speed / 550 ft-lb/sec for output hp. Hudsons were designed as high-speed steam-raisers, so we're watching it well below its power-peak.
Back in the day, CP used oil-burning 2-10-4 Selkirks hauling passengers in the mts., often in multiple.
I Have made this run in the cab of 2816 before
anybody know the top speed of this beauty
The maximum speed as shown in a CPR timetable from the 40's that I had showed 90 mph. But they were capable of a little more than that. They only had 75" drivers, so they weren't a super high speed steamer like the CPR 'Jubilees' with their 80" drivers. It was one of those - 3003 - that set a longstanding Canadian steam speed record of 112.5 mph that wasn't broken until '76 by a Via Rail LRC train.
No other sound like it !
If any locomotive deserved to be called a lady, I would have to say this one makes quite the impression. Every curve is beautiful to look at.
They need to bring these beautiful things back into operation. Just listen to that thing. My my my! Driving one of these things is how I would protest this stupid carbon tax.
"I hear the train a-coming, it's rolling round the bin, and I ain't seen the sunshine since.. I don't know when. I'm stuck in Folsom Prison"............
awesome
And the epa gives me crap about punching it in my duramax.
what you are seeing is 95% steam ;-)
6 dislikes??? really? #idiots
***** yeah me too, even if I was a diesel fan how could you not love the early locos?
Unreal
Reminds me of a cold start Detroit Diesel. 😅 They were more reliable than cummins.
That is probably the whitest train smoke I’ve ever seen
What do you see Justin, what about you
SG? Let me tell you, our history. By the way that is steam and a little carbon footprint Feeding the trees.
Great video, love the Chug sound... just waiting for some Eco-freak idiot to comment on how horrible this video is, "just look at all that smoke, how awful..."
Ruined the audio
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