The siblings are both famous and are both tied to the wonder of Yosemite National Park. One survived unspeakable horror, while the other was a killer who created it. #Nightline #ABCNews #TrueCrime
I can’t belive Steven got free saved that poor young boy from the fate he had, to have a beautiful family, only to die at age 24, life just isn’t fair.
Can you imagine how his victims felt.People want to survive but never ever go to the second location.You might as well fight with all your strength right of the start.Those 3 women if they would have fought and ran they might have survived.Instead those poor souls went with him too a secluded location and lost their lives.
LOGIC ! This guy decapitated this beautiful young lady. What sick bastards does this? This guy looks even more handsome than Ted Bundy. (I never thought Bundy was even the slightest cute, but people went on and on about it) I thought I heard a comment on here maybe from a cop that he looked like an actor. It's very scary.
PeachyRider The second brother is a sick piece of shit. I'm not a doctor, but relating his disgusting evil behavior to his brothers survival story is wrong. I know trauma and grief can do a lot to a person but it doesn't make you do this. I actually have seen this story before on 🆔 It breaks your heart to think of what the innocent women went through. I hope he burns in hell.
@@natashasavage4795 his family didn't care about him, they kicked him out of the house after everything he went through because he struggled to obey their rules
Yeah it’s sad, Steve went through hell and his life was cut short. As Timmy White also died as both filled a good life. While Steve older brother Cary is still alive and he became a murder.
Probably because judges are paedophiles. In Australia we had a judge Liddle who was a paedophile w hj o gave hard sentences for driving charges and let others like him off. He was caught eventually and he got a life sentence which was only 13 years back in the 90s
I think one of the saddest parts of Steven's entire story is when he asked during an interview "Why doesn't my dad hug me anymore?" After everything the kid went through, for his dad to just shut him out basically...That was truly what got to me.
His father was a POS that wouldn’t get his son counseling, and wouldn’t even look him in the eye when he found out what that child molester did to his son. And then kicks his son out of the house b4 he’s 18, because Steven struggled to obey the rules.
I agree, Melanie. Ignorant people have trouble with kids who have been sexually abused. They often think the kid was "asking for it." It's particularly bad for boys who are molested by men. Poor Steven was bullied mercilessly once he returned. Can you imagine? Wow.
@@huchlvr I agree! All of them should've gone for counseling, it could've prevented Steven's death and their other son, a serial killer. Their father had to much pride.
The Steven Stayner post abduction is a lesson in what not to do. Too much publicity. Look at abductees like Elizabeth Smart and Jaycee Dugard who's family did the right things at the time of their return. Yes. the public wants to know how they are doing (and some can argue deserve updates) but it has to be controlled in order for the person to heal. Uncontrolled media access can have the opposite affect than what is wanted.
Look up the story about Natasha Kampusch, she was ridiculed after being kidnapped for 8 years, the media tortured her even more, pressing her for more information. There is a documentary on Netflix about her story called Natasha Kampusch. She also has a book called 3096 Days In Captivity.
@@peacefulvibes8514 His parents failed him and his siblings big time by not getting them help. Because they had their own secrets to protect. RIP Steven.
Very sad... I remember this story when I was a kid and always wondered what happened to Steven I had no idea he died so young ...so upsetting to see his grave .... RIP Steven
How much can you endure as a parent? The devil destroyed everything and everyone on his way. This family seen to much evil . I feel so sad for everyone effected by this tragedy.
The family has evil people within, starting with the Steven’s grandpa (molester and rapist targeting his mom) who lived in the family home, uncle who allegedly molested Cary and also possibly the father doing it too, the uncle murdered in 1990, then Cary becoming a serial killer. Steven even questioned whether he should’ve even gone back home. What can go wrong?
@@Aaron-MackHartfordthey allowed a family member to rape Cary then decided they so sad over missing Steve they didn’t want Cary around and sent him to live with the rapist relative who continued to rape Cary! These parents should be in jail too! You’re dumb and sympathizing with the wrong people. The only innocent in this mess is Steve, Tim and Cary’s victims! Don’t get it f$cked up! The parents were monsters and narcissists behind closed doors long before Steve was abducted. They allowed Cary to be repeatedly raped 4 years before Steven was even abducted!!! The neglect was not born from grief of missing Steve
If anything this story should be used to understand what makes a psychopath. Is it childhood abuse, is it genetics or is it something you are by birth. I have often felt that parental abuse can be more of a trigger than abuse from a stranger.
They made a movie about this, called, "I Know My First Name Is Steven". I had NO IDEA that older brother Cary was a serial killer! There was a guy who played Cary in the movie, but that part about him was not touched AT ALL!! He was just happy to finally see his baby brother back home! Isn't that something?
@@tommymcdonald8351 There were two actors who portrayed Cary in _I Know My First Name Is Steven_ (1989) -- one as a child in Part I, the other as a young man in Part II.
the 2 part mini series about Steven is beautiful. he had such a tragic life and died so young. i feel for the parents after what happened with his bother
This piece really glossed over a lot. I saw in other articles that Cary was always like this...scaring his female cousins, looking in their window, and he admitted to fantasizing about killing women when he was VERY young. Also, I read he was very jealous of the attention Steven got. There is actually a video of when Steven was rescued. It was during a press conference, heroes welcome or some large gathering when Steven came home. The camera panned to brother Cary, and Cary looked annoyed at the press coverage Steven was given. Law enforcement also suspected him of killing a family member, I think an uncle, but I would need to check on that. I also read that the mom was a cold person, and not affectionate at all. RIP Steven...
The thing I found odd in an interview with Steven, after reconciliation with his parents.. He said he does not remember much about his family life? He was 7 when he was abducted. I'm pretty sure I have lots of childhood memories up to this age. Maybe Steven was not allowed to discuss in this interview. However Steven always seemed to appear detached and so did his parents. Maybe they were just camera shy but there seemed no emotions displayed at all. Maybe there were no emotions because they were exhausted with stress, coming to terms? Who knows. But there is no excuse for what happened to Steven. That is all on Parnell.
Clara From what I’ve read, I firmly believe there was something wrong with the family on both sides to begin with. Carey wasn’t kidnapped but he ended up murdering at least 5 women. The mother was molested by her own father. Then she allowed him to move in with them and their 5 kids. They were all weird. Interestingly, If you look at Steven and what he went through I’m surprised he didn’t end up like Carey. Steven seemed to be to closest to normal of them.
My auntie J. Is the daughter of the uncle he murdered and after he heavily immersed himself in my aunts life even saying he would walk her down the aisle when she married one day she was 10 when her father was murdered by her older cousin
209 area code in northern california. Its a hotspot for violence and overall wierd shit. I grew up there. Its a huge piece of land but still very small townish.
Justice is blind. Parnell got 5 years. Wtf? Steven's is alienated by his father and killed in early 20's, his brother cary becomes a serial killer. Just sad all around
If you listen to quacks steven should have become the monster....and dont give me the 'his brother was messed up cause of it' his brother was torturing animals before steven was even kidnapped
Is Purnell the judge's son, cousin of the DA,the prosecutor's brother?? Why,where and how does one get a such a lenient sentence for destroying a kid's life??? EVERYONE responsible for allowing that shitbag freedom should get the death penalty. This is too tragic for words.
Just another example of how the courts, the judges failed to protect the innocent in society. Parnell should've been locked up for life. I read a bit more about the Stayner parents. It's really quite sad of what I read about the family. There was abuse, large amount of neglect and a pretty good amount of some mental health issues. But looks like not where Steven was concerned. I also read some on Kay Stayner. And sounds like she was getting poor instructions from her own father. Needless to say. IMO I don't feel that any sickness Carey was allegedly suffering from contributed to him becoming a rapist and serial killer. That was his choice to do those heinous crimes to those ladies. And since Kay stated that Carey was sick why in the hell didn't they address the issue before it ended up getting out of hand. Cause look what happened. All women should learn self defense, carry mace and learn to be more careful of opening any motel doors around midnight. These violent criminals aren't immune to being killed themselves. Anyway, that's my thoughts. RIP Steven Stayner.
Just goes to show you can't judge a book by its cover. I would've totally swiped right if I saw Cary on a dating app but then I would've gotten slaughtered on the first date.
there's a new 3 part miniseries on Hulu called Captive Audience :A Real American Horror Story where they talk to Steven Stayner's kids, his mom, his wife and one of his sisters...the first 2 episodes are about Steven, the third is Cary's story...
This is such a sad story about a family who literally went through hell after what this scumbag did to their son. A child lost his life twice...... think about that, TWICE. The brother Cary turned to murder to satisfy whatever he was going through. Even after going to a psychiatric facility to get treated. The kidnapper only gets 5 years for what he did..... 5 YEARS. Only to get a life sentence for his next crime. Steven sadly passes away at an early age, and Cary goes to prison for his crimes. A family was completely destroyed by from a sick act by a sick, deranged man. I have no sympathy for murderers, rapists, or violent acts on children, even though Cary's acts are understandable. I hope God has mercy on this family AND Timmy White as well for what they went through Timmy was rescued by Steven only to die later of a pulmonary embolism.
The parents were horrible people to say the least and the grandfather and uncle (murdered in 1990) were alleged molesters targeting their family members while still living in the family home. Just disgusting.
I remember this being all over the news. Still can't believe that pos only got 5 years. He ruined a family! Unbelievable! Sad and heartbreaking all around!
I simply cannot believe that Steven's kidnapping played no role in Cary's psychosis. Trauma and neglect can do terrible things to a person. Even if his parents didn't mean to, they must've neglected the remaining children to a certain degree. I imagine Steven's death just pushed Cary over the edge.
Becoming a serial killer has nothing to do with your brother being kidnapped.He had no psychosis he is a psychopath which developed long before Steven was gone.
Steven got some rotten cards dealt him in his short life in this world. Cary and the other kids probably felt lost themselves for attention. They were young also.Their parents were consumed with finding out what happened to Steven, they could not let go of hope. Plus there was just not the outreach support out there, to help with mental health, counselling available. This whole family destroyed by evil 'Parnell'.
Maybe he could have restrained his feelings, but losing Steven TWICE made him not able to control. But I've never been in that situation, so I can't say officially. Just the opinion of some random stranger on the Internet
I remember the movie about Steven I'm so sorry for what happened to him. And that monster parnell got off way to easy and then try to re offend. To me justice was not served For Steven. Such tragedy for that family. One a hero and the other a killer. Sad for all the victims. R.I.P Steven and the family he left behind. Gone but not forgotten.
This is the proof that abuse isn’t the cause of evil. I am all up for stopping child abuse but you can’t blame it for the crimes. You always have a choice. And that’s how human nature works, it can always go either way.
Lesson learned never trust anybody specially a stranger who knocks your door and talk everything just to get in, in your house. Never welcome anyone specially strangers in your house
I do not see how the horrific kidnapping and death of Steven, turned Cary into a woman hating, monster, murderer? I do not understand why the media continue to try and make the nightmare Steven experienced, the making of Cary the nightmare of every woman!
I feel so sad for this family, one son was kidnapped at a early age( was found, but was never the same), the other son became a serial killer, basically they lost two sons!!!!
Maybe, maybe not. Yu have no idea how a person will react to trauma and tragedy. Carey suffered a couple of mental breakdowns prior to his killing spree so it may very well be that he wasn't rational at all. But it also may be that he was pre disposed to become a serial killer as he did have a difficult time connecting with women during his teens. Add family trauma and mental illness into the mix and he was a pressure cooker waiting to explode. Tragic all around.
Steven was only 7 years old, and he was brainwashed by Kenneth Parnell. He told Steven that he had custody, that his parents no longer wanted him because they already had too many children to take care off.
I feel sorry for Caryn because growing up it was all about Steven yea he got abducted however I don’t think he felt loved after Steven was kidnapped and even when he came back
I still remember the tv film ,it was so powerful / dark 💔🌍💔 I think Cary felt as though he didn’t exist because ALL the attention was on his other brother ( understandably all things considered)all the time and everywhere💔💔 Not that would / could ever excuse his crimes ....
Even being from the 80s... To make all these public appearances but not get that boys professional help really has me looking at those parents sideways... They're obviously not concerned about being seen in a public eye or being embarrassed
When Steven said his siblings changed a lot and he wouldn’t have recognized them….LITTLE DID HE KNOW smfh. And no offense but you would have expected Steven to go on a murderous spree after being kidnapped for seven years and experience that Level of abuse
Think about how the parents must've handled him aft losing his brother twice. He was born a psychopath and raising one requires top notch control if you want them to function properly in society. The kidnapping must've taken a toll on his parents. They would've been raising a psychopath out of guilt, severely enabling him, overly protective, or just flat out ignoring him out of grief and resentment wishing it was him instead... either way it's a recipe for disaster
Not in a past life. It could be what they did in this life. If you open doors to evil you can never tell where it will take you or your descendants. That being said, sometimes lightning strikes the same place twice. So just say there but for the grace of God...
My mothers best friend (Auntie J) is Cary’s first cousin both aunt J and my mom went on a hike/camping trip with Cary. When they were 17 they were driving to the trail, when they got to a closed/locked gate Cary got so frustrated and upset he immediately came back and said we are turning around. They tried saying “lets go somewhere else” and he said “no trips done im taking you home”. Whether his plan was stopped due to this road block or he was so mad and didn’t want to hurt his cousin, we cant know, either way Im glad my mother couldn’t go with him that day. About a year later he was staying at my aunts dad his uncles and then when he decided to leave due arguments with his uncle he murdered him there was no forced entry to the home and he locked the door behind him he was the only other person with a key it was never proven but to many coincidences to not be him
Carey knew my mom in her early 20s and was a little obsessed with her. He asked her out several times, but she said no, and he left her alone after she met my dad and they started dating.
I knew Steven's story and that he had died in an accident but knew nothing about his brother Cary. To think Stevens is kidnapper got such a short sentence is ludicrous.
The parents do not deserve awards, they definitely put Steven thru more hell putting him in front of the cameras right away for fame, putting him back in school only to deal with bullying, refuse counseling, then kicking him out of the house before he turned 17.
What a terrible tragic story. I know what happen to Steven had to be hard on him, but that's no excuse or gives him no right to take the life of another.
He didn't take another life! He saved a 5 year old boy! Pay attention😠 His older brother Carey killed 4 women and is on death row at San Quinton! Steven died in 1989 from a motorcycle accident!
I can’t belive Steven got free saved that poor young boy from the fate he had, to have a beautiful family, only to die at age 24, life just isn’t fair.
Oh yes it is 😞😭
😢
Timothy also died very young too 😢
It never is
Oh yeah how is life fair? I'd love for you to explain to me how it is
These poor parents losing a son twice and another one who is a serial killer.😫
PeachyRider Could you even imagine? How heartbreaking to survive that monster then die in crash.
I wonder if he wanted excitement in his life after seeing his brother receive so much attention surrounded by grief
Can you imagine how his victims felt.People want to survive but never ever go to the second location.You might as well fight with all your strength right of the start.Those 3 women if they would have fought and ran they might have survived.Instead those poor souls went with him too a secluded location and lost their lives.
LOGIC ! This guy decapitated this beautiful young lady. What sick bastards does this?
This guy looks even more handsome than Ted Bundy. (I never thought Bundy was even the slightest cute, but people went on and on about it)
I thought I heard a comment on here maybe from a cop that he looked like an actor.
It's very scary.
PeachyRider The second brother is a sick piece of shit.
I'm not a doctor, but relating his disgusting evil behavior to his brothers survival story is wrong.
I know trauma and grief can do a lot to a person but it doesn't make you do this.
I actually have seen this story before on 🆔 It breaks your heart to think of what the innocent women went through.
I hope he burns in hell.
How the hell Steven endured all that is beyond me.... Life was too unfair to the young man.
brings a tear to me really
LayeredOnions ... and to die in a motorcycle accident. His family lost him twice.
@@natashasavage4795 his family didn't care about him, they kicked him out of the house after everything he went through because he struggled to obey their rules
His parents are trash
Yeah it’s sad, Steve went through hell and his life was cut short. As Timmy White also died as both filled a good life.
While Steve older brother Cary is still alive and he became a murder.
How is that possible to take a kid for 7 years and another that was 5 years old and only get five years in prison. HOW?
Live in California.
Probably because judges are paedophiles. In Australia we had a judge Liddle who was a paedophile w hj o gave hard sentences for driving charges and let others like him off. He was caught eventually and he got a life sentence which was only 13 years back in the 90s
Ye and then try to abduct an innocent little 4 year old when he’s released dirty bastered I would love to torture him
@@CJ-pf1se,me too CJ. I m a mom so I get it
It was quite a while ago. Laws have changed hugely since then.
I think one of the saddest parts of Steven's entire story is when he asked during an interview "Why doesn't my dad hug me anymore?" After everything the kid went through, for his dad to just shut him out basically...That was truly what got to me.
That breaks my heart
His father was a POS that wouldn’t get his son counseling, and wouldn’t even look him in the eye when he found out what that child molester did to his son.
And then kicks his son out of the house b4 he’s 18, because Steven struggled to obey the rules.
Hutchlover Ds Sounds like one of those people who blame the victim. He was probably looking at him like damaged goods.
I agree, Melanie. Ignorant people have trouble with kids who have been sexually abused. They often think the kid was "asking for it." It's particularly bad for boys who are molested by men. Poor Steven was bullied mercilessly once he returned. Can you imagine? Wow.
@@huchlvr I agree! All of them should've gone for counseling, it could've prevented Steven's death and their other son, a serial killer. Their father had to much pride.
What a tragic story!
very strange
Marcel Moulin stories 💔💔
This story makes me so sad, but angry at the same time
Same here,as a kid I got so scared of the poster of the missing women by where my cousin just to live by Oakland Ave.
I remember when this happened. It broke my heart as a kid & always stuck with me.
The Steven Stayner post abduction is a lesson in what not to do. Too much publicity. Look at abductees like Elizabeth Smart and Jaycee Dugard who's family did the right things at the time of their return. Yes. the public wants to know how they are doing (and some can argue deserve updates) but it has to be controlled in order for the person to heal. Uncontrolled media access can have the opposite affect than what is wanted.
To me their all heroes
Look up the story about Natasha Kampusch, she was ridiculed after being kidnapped for 8 years, the media tortured her even more, pressing her for more information. There is a documentary on Netflix about her story called Natasha Kampusch. She also has a book called 3096 Days In Captivity.
Steven speaking up and being an advocate helped change the way child molestation was prosecuted. He helped innumerable children get justice.
@@peacefulvibes8514 His parents failed him and his siblings big time by not getting them help. Because they had their own secrets to protect. RIP Steven.
Very sad... I remember this story when I was a kid and always wondered what happened to Steven I had no idea he died so young ...so upsetting to see his grave .... RIP Steven
One brother is a hero and one brother is a psycho!!!!
How much can you endure as a parent? The devil destroyed everything and everyone on his way. This family seen to much evil . I feel so sad for everyone effected by this tragedy.
The devil did it ? Why didn’t god stop it ? Or maybe evil just exists
The family has evil people within, starting with the Steven’s grandpa (molester and rapist targeting his mom) who lived in the family home, uncle who allegedly molested Cary and also possibly the father doing it too, the uncle murdered in 1990, then Cary becoming a serial killer. Steven even questioned whether he should’ve even gone back home. What can go wrong?
I think they failed then they are endured, they failed to get Steve help after he returned back, they failed to pay attention to Cary.
@@Aaron-MackHartfordthey allowed a family member to rape Cary then decided they so sad over missing Steve they didn’t want Cary around and sent him to live with the rapist relative who continued to rape Cary! These parents should be in jail too! You’re dumb and sympathizing with the wrong people. The only innocent in this mess is Steve, Tim and Cary’s victims! Don’t get it f$cked up! The parents were monsters and narcissists behind closed doors long before Steve was abducted. They allowed Cary to be repeatedly raped 4 years before Steven was even abducted!!! The neglect was not born from grief of missing Steve
If anything this story should be used to understand what makes a psychopath. Is it childhood abuse, is it genetics or is it something you are by birth. I have often felt that parental abuse can be more of a trigger than abuse from a stranger.
Nature vs Nurture Argument
How far was he away from his original family? Young ladies please stay together, don't go out alone and be safe. There are a lot of animals out there.
He managed to kill 3 women that were together.
He was 200 miles away from his original family i heard.
They made a movie about this, called, "I Know My First Name Is Steven".
I had NO IDEA that older brother Cary was a serial killer! There was a guy who played Cary in the movie, but that part about him was not touched AT ALL!! He was just happy to finally see his baby brother back home!
Isn't that something?
Cary Stayner killing spree started in 1999. The film was in the 80's, Cary was still a young boy at the time.
@@adav5533 That actor is probably one of the only few people that played a future serial killer
Yeah, I remember that too. And Corin Nemec from Parker Lewis Can't Lose" show played Steven. That was before the brother became a murderer.
@@tommymcdonald8351 There were two actors who portrayed Cary in _I Know My First Name Is Steven_ (1989) -- one as a child in Part I, the other as a young man in Part II.
@@musicaltheatergeek79 Oh damn thats even crazier
the 2 part mini series about Steven is beautiful. he had such a tragic life and died so young. i feel for the parents after what happened with his bother
These poor parents! God Bless them!
This story is crazy! What a world
There is no words......🙏💙💔☮✝️💜
Lisa Bullock : You’re right. No words...😔
This piece really glossed over a lot. I saw in other articles that Cary was always like this...scaring his female cousins, looking in their window, and he admitted to fantasizing about killing women when he was VERY young. Also, I read he was very jealous of the attention Steven got. There is actually a video of when Steven was rescued. It was during a press conference, heroes welcome or some large gathering when Steven came home. The camera panned to brother Cary, and Cary looked annoyed at the press coverage Steven was given. Law enforcement also suspected him of killing a family member, I think an uncle, but I would need to check on that. I also read that the mom was a cold person, and not affectionate at all. RIP Steven...
tammyramey
All true. And it was an uncle that Carey was thought to have murdered.
The thing I found odd in an interview with Steven, after reconciliation with his parents.. He said he does not remember much about his family life? He was 7 when he was abducted. I'm pretty sure I have lots of childhood memories up to this age.
Maybe Steven was not allowed to discuss in this interview. However Steven always seemed to appear detached and so did his parents.
Maybe they were just camera shy but there seemed no emotions displayed at all.
Maybe there were no emotions because they were exhausted with stress, coming to terms? Who knows.
But there is no excuse for what happened to Steven. That is all on Parnell.
Clara
From what I’ve read, I firmly believe there was something wrong with the family on both sides to begin with. Carey wasn’t kidnapped but he ended up murdering at least 5 women. The mother was molested by her own father. Then she allowed him to move in with them and their 5 kids. They were all weird. Interestingly, If you look at Steven and what he went through I’m surprised he didn’t end up like Carey. Steven seemed to be to closest to normal of them.
It was an uncle he lived with.. and I recently came across the story of a young girl who went missing in Yosemite when Cary would have been around 20
My auntie J. Is the daughter of the uncle he murdered and after he heavily immersed himself in my aunts life even saying he would walk her down the aisle when she married one day she was 10 when her father was murdered by her older cousin
The oldest brother looks evil.
This is horrible all the way around
I want to know more about the parents of the brothers TBH and where they went to get cursed so I never visit
209 area code in northern california. Its a hotspot for violence and overall wierd shit. I grew up there. Its a huge piece of land but still very small townish.
Art Vein might not be them. Could be the grandparents who did bad things and it fell onto these kids. Who knows? ☹️
Danny Thompson
Don’t put that evil on me Ricky Bobby! Haha
I’m a Tracy native and it’s pretty nice here. Maybe you mean Stockton.
@@Stj209naw like Tuolumne and calaveras county. places like wilseyville and rail road flat.
Danny Thompson I Can Just Imagine . Back Than Lots Of Weirdo’s / Rapist . Smh 🤦♀️
I feel so sorry for their parents. I can't even imagine what they've been through.
The styner parents were monsters behind closed doors!
Wow I didn't know the older brother snapped!😳
I didn't either.
I Did . Read About It And See The Movie 🎥 Steven 😢
This whole family is messed up. Do a google search on them. There is generational mental illness and sex child abuse going back generations.
My Name is Gladiator
That’s for sure. They all should have been locked up and not allowed to reproduce.
Omg
Wow I didn't know the rabbit hole went any deeper. My God!!!
Sad that Timmy die years later
That woupd be steven, in a motorcycle crash
Jessica Aldridge Unfortunately, Timmy died of a pulmonary embolism at 35.
Bendu wow..
@@Bendueee really.. I never knew that
That poor family. Those poor parents
Justice is blind. Parnell got 5 years. Wtf? Steven's is alienated by his father and killed in early 20's, his brother cary becomes a serial killer. Just sad all around
Steven would’ve been disgusted by Cary’s actions.
Why ?
If you listen to quacks steven should have become the monster....and dont give me the 'his brother was messed up cause of it' his brother was torturing animals before steven was even kidnapped
Is Purnell the judge's son, cousin of the DA,the prosecutor's brother?? Why,where and how does one get a such a lenient sentence for destroying a kid's life??? EVERYONE responsible for allowing that shitbag freedom should get the death penalty. This is too tragic for words.
Bc the truth is that allot of men in high positions are pedos themselves
White man
Life is nothing but a lot of twist and turns. So unfair. R.I.P.
Just another example of how the courts, the judges failed to protect the innocent in society. Parnell should've been locked up for life. I read a bit more about the Stayner parents. It's really quite sad of what I read about the family. There was abuse, large amount of neglect and a pretty good amount of some mental health issues. But looks like not where Steven was concerned. I also read some on Kay Stayner. And sounds like she was getting poor instructions from her own father. Needless to say. IMO I don't feel that any sickness Carey was allegedly suffering from contributed to him becoming a rapist and serial killer. That was his choice to do those heinous crimes to those ladies. And since Kay stated that Carey was sick why in the hell didn't they address the issue before it ended up getting out of hand. Cause look what happened. All women should learn self defense, carry mace and learn to be more careful of opening any motel doors around midnight. These violent criminals aren't immune to being killed themselves. Anyway, that's my thoughts. RIP Steven Stayner.
Did Steven Stayner and Timmy White ever become good friends after the kidnapping circumstances?
Yes but both are dead now
@@tammygordon8699 I know what happened to Steven, but what happened to Timmy?
@@cherokeegirl5908 pulmonary embolism on april 1 2010
Tammy Gordon Woah 😨
Timmy carried Steve's casket at the funeral 😭❤
How on earth . Poor parents
Those poor woman.. murdered so horrible..😭😭
Just goes to show you can't judge a book by its cover. I would've totally swiped right if I saw Cary on a dating app but then I would've gotten slaughtered on the first date.
So true
I remember the story of Steven who was kidnapped and escaped with the 5 year old boy, but I never knew all of this. This is crazy. The poor parents.
there's a new 3 part miniseries on Hulu called Captive Audience :A Real American Horror Story where they talk to Steven Stayner's kids, his mom, his wife and one of his sisters...the first 2 episodes are about Steven, the third is Cary's story...
This is such a sad story about a family who literally went through hell after what this scumbag did to their son. A child lost his life twice...... think about that, TWICE. The brother Cary turned to murder to satisfy whatever he was going through. Even after going to a psychiatric facility to get treated. The kidnapper only gets 5 years for what he did..... 5 YEARS. Only to get a life sentence for his next crime. Steven sadly passes away at an early age, and Cary goes to prison for his crimes. A family was completely destroyed by from a sick act by a sick, deranged man. I have no sympathy for murderers, rapists, or violent acts on children, even though Cary's acts are understandable. I hope God has mercy on this family AND Timmy White as well for what they went through Timmy was rescued by Steven only to die later of a pulmonary embolism.
The parents to have lost both children after seven years of constant pain is more than anyone could bare....
They parents were evil too
The parents were horrible people to say the least and the grandfather and uncle (murdered in 1990) were alleged molesters targeting their family members while still living in the family home. Just disgusting.
Feel so sorry for this mother and father I can’t even imagine hell is two parents to
What happened to the other two men law enforcement rushed to justice?
What a stories twist! I feel bad for all victims😢, be safe young ones of this nation. May God be with you , in your beAutiful souls
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May u be RIP Steven Stayner. So unfortunate what your older brother turned out to be. Am sure you would be appalled..
I remember this being all over the news. Still can't believe that pos only got 5 years. He ruined a family! Unbelievable! Sad and heartbreaking all around!
At the time, California law only allowed a maximum of 7 years for these charges, the judge was pretty much handcuffed by what he could give him.
I simply cannot believe that Steven's kidnapping played no role in Cary's psychosis. Trauma and neglect can do terrible things to a person. Even if his parents didn't mean to, they must've neglected the remaining children to a certain degree. I imagine Steven's death just pushed Cary over the edge.
I dunno..it’s a stretch to me. Most people with trauma aren’t serial killers. To me it would make a lot more sense if Steven turned into one instead.
Becoming a serial killer has nothing to do with your brother being kidnapped.He had no psychosis he is a psychopath which developed long before Steven was gone.
You're gross.
Steven got some rotten cards dealt him in his short life in this world. Cary and the other kids probably felt lost themselves for attention. They were young also.Their parents were consumed with finding out what happened to Steven, they could not let go of hope.
Plus there was just not the outreach support out there, to help with mental health, counselling available.
This whole family destroyed by evil 'Parnell'.
Such an awful tragedy that happened to this family. I feel bad for them.
Cary was already going to be a serial killer. It had nothing to do with Steven.
Maybe he could have restrained his feelings, but losing Steven TWICE made him not able to control. But I've never been in that situation, so I can't say officially. Just the opinion of some random stranger on the Internet
Cary never loved or cared about steven
@@johnsueggy505 Cary's friends mentioned that Cary had loved Steven and looks out for him in an interview
I believe this
I remember the movie about Steven I'm so sorry for what happened to him. And that monster parnell got off way to easy and then try to re offend. To me justice was not served
For Steven. Such tragedy for that family. One a hero and the other a killer. Sad for all the victims. R.I.P Steven and the family he left behind. Gone but not forgotten.
Cary's eyes shows his disturbed mind clear as day.
Yes, demonic!
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This is the proof that abuse isn’t the cause of evil. I am all up for stopping child abuse but you can’t blame it for the crimes. You always have a choice. And that’s how human nature works, it can always go either way.
Lesson learned never trust anybody specially a stranger who knocks your door and talk everything just to get in, in your house. Never welcome anyone specially strangers in your house
I remember watching the movie after school... I remember thinking why was my mother so over protective until I saw this movie
Horrific on both ends he went insane
Man that’s horrible. Sad and tragic
His smile....disappears with Parnell. My goodness. Only 5 years? Wtf Creep!
I knew about the 2 cases and never knew they were brothers! Wow, imagine the nightmare of the parents of Steven and Cary. Tragedy writ large!
Lock him up forever.
I do not see how the horrific kidnapping and death of Steven, turned Cary into a woman hating, monster, murderer? I do not understand why the media continue to try and make the nightmare Steven experienced, the making of Cary the nightmare of every woman!
Sexual abuse was the family secret, and this explains why the parents didn't want Steven or his siblings to have any kind of therapy or counseling.
You dont know what goes on behind closed doors
People who write comments for the shock affect when tragedy has occurred can you please drink a tall glass of anti-freeze
Life is so unpredictable. What a wild story
I feel so sad for this family, one son was kidnapped at a early age( was found, but was never the same), the other son became a serial killer, basically they lost two sons!!!!
It's crazy that family was cursed so sad to see
What he did had nothing to do with what happened to his brother he was just a sick indivisual
Kathy Wiggins
I agree. That sickness ran in the family. Interestingly enough, I think Steven was the most normal of them.
Maybe, maybe not. Yu have no idea how a person will react to trauma and tragedy. Carey suffered a couple of mental breakdowns prior to his killing spree so it may very well be that he wasn't rational at all. But it also may be that he was pre disposed to become a serial killer as he did have a difficult time connecting with women during his teens. Add family trauma and mental illness into the mix and he was a pressure cooker waiting to explode. Tragic all around.
Naomi Pask
I heard Cary killed his uncle because he had raped him as a child so i think that added on trauma pushed him over the edge.
Cranjis Mcbasketball where did you hear that?
“As if he’s reading a soup label” hahaha
What I’ll never understand is why Steven didn’t tell his teachers he’d been kidnapped.
Steven was only 7 years old, and he was brainwashed by Kenneth Parnell. He told Steven that he had custody, that his parents no longer wanted him because they already had too many children to take care off.
@@adav5533 He actually tried to tell one teacher. She didn't listen to him.
He was brainwashed and manipulated by an adult, he was only 7!!!!!!!
Stockholm Syndrome
I remember watching the Movie!, here in Australia it was called the Missing Years!, Truly Tragic!, Rest in Peace Steven Stayner!.
I feel sorry for Caryn because growing up it was all about Steven yea he got abducted however I don’t think he felt loved after Steven was kidnapped and even when he came back
So many lives ruined from Stevens abduction. From the Stayner family to the families of Carey’s victims.
“He returns to Merced triumphant” - seriously? Hardly .
He was a brave boy for saving that young boy from danger
Weve got a statue for him in applegate park
I read a recent article that said both boys were being regularly molested by one of their family members and had very sick and dysfutional family.
I still remember the tv film ,it was so powerful / dark 💔🌍💔 I think Cary felt as though he didn’t exist because ALL the attention was on his other brother ( understandably all things considered)all the time and everywhere💔💔 Not that would / could ever excuse his crimes ....
Even being from the 80s... To make all these public appearances but not get that boys professional help really has me looking at those parents sideways... They're obviously not concerned about being seen in a public eye or being embarrassed
When Steven said his siblings changed a lot and he wouldn’t have recognized them….LITTLE DID HE KNOW smfh. And no offense but you would have expected Steven to go on a murderous spree after being kidnapped for seven years and experience that Level of abuse
I remember watching the movie when I was younger and it gave me nightmares.
Both Steven and tim died so young. RIP
Think about how the parents must've handled him aft losing his brother twice. He was born a psychopath and raising one requires top notch control if you want them to function properly in society. The kidnapping must've taken a toll on his parents. They would've been raising a psychopath out of guilt, severely enabling him, overly protective, or just flat out ignoring him out of grief and resentment wishing it was him instead... either way it's a recipe for disaster
What the hell did their parents do in a past life??
Not in a past life. It could be what they did in this life. If you open doors to evil you can never tell where it will take you or your descendants. That being said, sometimes lightning strikes the same place twice. So just say there but for the grace of God...
Just finished listening to this case and was shocked and discussed to learn that the kidnapper served only 5 years for both kidnappings
My mothers best friend (Auntie J) is Cary’s first cousin both aunt J and my mom went on a hike/camping trip with Cary. When they were 17 they were driving to the trail, when they got to a closed/locked gate Cary got so frustrated and upset he immediately came back and said we are turning around. They tried saying “lets go somewhere else” and he said “no trips done im taking you home”. Whether his plan was stopped due to this road block or he was so mad and didn’t want to hurt his cousin, we cant know, either way Im glad my mother couldn’t go with him that day. About a year later he was staying at my aunts dad his uncles and then when he decided to leave due arguments with his uncle he murdered him there was no forced entry to the home and he locked the door behind him he was the only other person with a key it was never proven but to many coincidences to not be him
Unfortunately he was never charged so the case is unsolved.
This is Netflix special waiting to happen.
Carey knew my mom in her early 20s and was a little obsessed with her. He asked her out several times, but she said no, and he left her alone after she met my dad and they started dating.
I knew Steven's story and that he had died in an accident but knew nothing about his brother Cary. To think Stevens is kidnapper got such a short sentence is ludicrous.
This is so. Sad
Those poor women
A family that has not 1 but 2 horrific things happen in there family
Crazy how Parnell used to work at Yosemite when Cary was a little kid.
Perhaps losing his brother is what put him over the edge...if he's a psychopath then it wouldn't of mattered
I had no idea about this! I remember both being abducted, and then escaped.
How terrifying! God bless the parents!❤️🙏
Cary and Steven father, Delbert Stayner passed away in 2013, he was 79 years old. God bless. ❤
The parents do not deserve awards, they definitely put Steven thru more hell putting him in front of the cameras right away for fame, putting him back in school only to deal with bullying, refuse counseling, then kicking him out of the house before he turned 17.
@@DMalltheway Yep, not to mention that sexual abuse was the family secret. They didn't get their kids any help. Pure neglect right there.
@@Muirmaiden Not just neglect, they were also enabling and accepting that disgusting behavior in a home with children.
@@DMalltheway Yep, they allowed it to happen. They were more concerned about keeping the family secrets intact. Sick.
Steven could have grown up healthy and happy and Carey would still be deranged
Just a thought maybe he was rotten from the start
I agree with you
What a tragic story
He was quite handsome admittedly
That's probably why the women trusted him. Trust no one..
This is very sad 😞💯poor Steven.... And the brother because a killer....... Wow.. Wat a family...... Some bad luck they had 💯😞
Awful: I can’t watch after 7 mins...
@The Reverend Jim Jones Seriously. He can pronounce "Ukiah" but not "Merced?" And he calls Carole Sund "Carole Lund." How unprofessional.
@The Reverend Jim Jones It's ABC. They don't care about accuracy.
@@citygirl5705 😔😂👊👍
What a terrible tragic story. I know what happen to Steven had to be hard on him, but that's no excuse or gives him no right to take the life of another.
He didn't take another life! He saved a 5 year old boy! Pay attention😠 His older brother Carey killed 4 women and is on death row at San Quinton! Steven died in 1989 from a motorcycle accident!
@@melanieblackelk4252 i was talking about his brother, not Steven. Why don't you pay attention to what I wrote!!
@@nibora4895 No, you pay attention idiot, lol😹!
Melanie Black Elk
No your the idiot he was talking about Cary ya jackass.
Oh no
Just so sad 😞