Beyond the design questions - does Monsters Inc really have a strong enough brand recognition to withstand 10-20 years or is this just a “lets do this for the sake of doing something” kinda deal and see what sticks?
If the land is well designed and the ride is good, then it should work. I mean should universal dedicate a huge section of epic to how to train your dragon?
crazy thing is they don't even need Disney themed lands - frontier land, adventure land, space mountain, thunder mountain etc. aren't from films. it just needs to have a cohesive vibe. I guess that makes it harder to sell merchandise though
@@outriggerundergroundArguably the parks best things come from original ideas that aren't IP based but fuck if modern imagineering has an ounce of creativity to be able to create a new story and a new world from the ground up. Look at HM and Pirates. Both original ideas. Or if you want a 21st century example, Mystic Manor is loosely based on HM but is it's own thing and it's a lovely experience with a good story. Disney has proven they don't need to stick their characters in everything for it to be successful.
If the EPCOT "improvements" are any indication on what to expect, I would not put much faith in the new art work. By the time it actually gets built the budget and details will be reduced to account for delays in construction and planning. Disney is no longer the imagination and detail oriented company it once was.
EPCOT once had a cogent theme, a unified environment with attractions that related to one another. It tried to mean something by aspiring to a balance of educational and entertainment experiences. Now, it's just a hodge-podge of unrelated experiences (maybe with the exception of World Showcase). "Guardians" may be a cool ride, but it has nothing to do with real-world sciences - other than the coaster incorporating a contemporary use of physics. EPCOT has been reduced to a park with outdated and evanescent theming.
@@be5376 You don't really believe that, do you? Like so many other projects that Disney has over-promised and under-delivered, EPCOT was ruined by poor planning, budget constraints and outright lack of concern for the guest experience.
Disney used to be the masters of full environments abuzz with kinetic energy. They seemed to have lost (or abandoned) that. Just being in a static land is so passé for audiences.
I believe Phil has hit the nail right on the head. And I believe abandoned is the correct description. You may not be able to see from this video, but being there, in person, past and present, it's obvious. It used to be engaging. Now it's more like a public park atmosphere. Blank and lacking detail. Just homogonous.
I’m sorry but this is a terrible idea. This belongs on the other side of the park at Launch Bay. That would put it next to Toy Story Land and make the park flow better. Disney has lost the importance of its history and doesn’t know its fan base. The are ruining the park experience.
My wish list would be keep the Muppets where they are, build Monsters Inc. attraction in Animation Courtyard, and retheme the Rock-n-Rollercoaster with either Monster's Inc or Zootopia with Dash the sloth if Aerosmith is going away.
@ who are you listening to? Literally every different type of Disney commentator and comments I’ve seen on their videos is talking about what a stupid move removing the muppets is. Maybe people are interested in a new ride, sure, but it’s not the paramount talking point surrounding the news at all. It’s come from people that usually agree with most of the companies decisions and people who regularly disagree, most people are on the same page with this one and they’re not parading the coaster just yet.
Honestly my biggest gripe with this plan, is that the factory is blocking the only feasible walkway to future expansions that could’ve been put beyond muppets/batuu
I really hope they preserve the Miss Piggy fountain (and maybe the Kermit tuxedo statue from the store) and bring them over to where the retheme of Aerosmith will be.
With one exception, everything announced at D23 is all No Thoughts, Mindlessly Chuck Money. There hasn't been any true vision in the parks division for a while.
I think a Monsters, Inc. land could work, but to make it truly perfect, they need to focus on making the entrance more immersive. Having it located right next to the entrance of Galaxy’s Edge doesn’t feel like the best choice, as it’s likely to create heavy crowd congestion in that corner of the park. Instead, they should have considered moving the entrance closer to the Star Tours area, allowing for better crowd flow. Additionally, the entrance design should feel like a real gateway into the Monsters, Inc. universe-something akin to the immersion you experience at Diagon Alley in Universal Studios. Universal has figured out what’s beating Disney right now: guests don’t just want great theming; they want full immersion. What they don’t want is a quick, cheap fix-painting some walls, adding a few monster eyes, and calling it a day. Disney needs to go all-in to create a land that feels authentic and magical, not something that simply hopes to fool guests with surface-level details.
tbf, Monstropolis is basically just a typical Human city like you'd see in Boston or Seattle or somewhere, it looks just like a normal city but with some subtle "spike" ornamentation to give it charm, like the the grill of Mike's car being spiked teeth, so its not that it wont be well themed, its just that the conversion wont even require that much effort to begin with
I’d say the problem is that Disney is building a land and a smaller area where Muppets is which is the last project that Jim Henson worked on, they need to build it over at animation courtyard because there’s way more space over there and that way they can keep Muppets
I love muppets I actually got to watch it but it is a place for many people to just go cool off. And no it’s not more land because they are expanding into a parking lot.
There’s something I can’t quite put my finger on. Maybe it IS “too little, too late”… not sure. It’s just that the area is so very clever now and has such heart. I love a coaster as much as anyone and this looks fun, but it’s hard to say I’m “sure” the land will be great. Current state of Disney is more 🤞than “sure” and that’s disheartening. Let’s hope the land is more than a tunnel to the coaster. Because the one sure thing is that a large capacity theatre is going to be replaced with a virtual queue, ILL, and eventually (? see Guardians) long standby attraction.
Area is clever now and has “heart” - but no attendance. Nobody goes there. Place is empty. All the time. Anything new there will be received better than the 30 year old mess that’s there now.
Appreciate the fair critique and practical analysis. I’m biased as I love this IP and didn’t grow up watching the muppets… so I’m pretty optimistic but they’ve got a few challenges. That back stage in the art is unforgivable though!
I hope Disney does not do like Universal and Knott's Berry Farm and constantly fill their parks primarily with roller coasters. There comes a time when the person who was able to ride those coasters will no longer be able to do so which leads to the need to have plenty for them to do when visiting those areas of the park. Age has nothing to do with it here as my younger brother (who is 7 years younger than myself) cannot handle a lot of roller coaster rides and certain other rides, such as Astro Orbiter, and I currently have no problem with them as of this time. Disney should not feel a need to compete with Universal as each one has their own style of entertainment. Disney built their reputation on being able to tell a story. I live about 30 minutes driving time from Universal Studios Hollywood. I remember it as being a place where you would find some shops (not as many as now), some places to eat (unlike the pricey sit-down service places they have now) and several shows along with the studio tour tram ride and that was it.
This is simply a knee-jerk reaction to Epic Universe. The problem here is Bob Iger's vanity. It gets in the way of good decision making and playing to your audience.
Drop the IPs, make adventures again! Make an entire Pirates Land, imagine Peter Pans flight vehicles that can also be amphibious and become a water ride. There are so many adventures that could exist simply as rides themselves.
Yes, i've been saying the same. The Next Gen park will be IP-less. I bet Universal beats Disney to the punch with a 4th park in the next 15 years. In the meantime IP-less rides are the way to go. The last great one I can think of is Everest.
I wish you could have experienced the old MGM. Streets of America and the theming of a working studio. It didn't age well. But you would have appreciated much of it!
Man am I glad to see you air brush in those trees. What were they thinking releasing artwork like that?! It's going to be an interesting part of the park for sure.
I wish they’d just leave Muppet Vision 3D and the fountain be and make the Monsters door coaster/Harryhausen’s in the back. Slapping Muppets on Rock n Roller Coaster is very lazy, and what are they gonna do import the Laugh floor over from Magic Kingdom for MV3D building?
I don't have anything against the Monsters IP, but can someone explain why MuppetVision 3D can't coexist and maintain variety in the same land/environment?
You are spot on - the real question of whether or not Disney is serious will come down to how they develop the other side of the park given the constraints with the current office space taking up too much valuable park real estate along Hollywood Blvd. If they were removing the entire parking lot behind where Monsters Inc land is headed and constructing a new office park I'd be inclined to think that Disney was thinking long term about the health of this park. Since that doesn't appear to be the case, they are just patch-working with a band-aid solution.
You would think that Disney would keep muppet vision opened for the rest of this year. After all dinasaur in the animal kingdom is going to be opened for the rest of this year .
Disney won't admit it, but they're trying and failing to catch up to Epic Universe. Epic Universe is looking to be absolutely incredible and is going to draw in people who never even really considered going to Universal. Since Harry Potter first came to Universal Orlando, Disney has been falling behind. While Avatar looks beautiful and sounds like an incredible land, I contribute that to the heavy involvement of Joe Rhode and not Disney.
It seems like the Disney and Henson companies are both to blame for the lack of theme park presence. It does make sense that Monsters Inc is still relevant and has a definitive universe consisting of cityscapes and campus which fits in that corner of the park. If the immersion included animated windows it could have a really long shelf life. While the door coaster is an older concept, it is still a great one whose time has come. Just please do not slap in a Laugh Floor and call it a day! As for the Muppets, I'm a huge fan and hate to see the changes, but that area of the park feels like an afterthought and their main store has been closed. Since the Muppets don't have a designated "world" a studio/lab type land would work, and I hope that the corner where Rockin Rollercoaster resides will absorb a Muppet expansion. While swapping Aerosmith with the Muppet solves a few problems, it does mean that there isn't a family friendly Muppet experience, unless your family has a proclivity for inversions. There has been an increase in Jim Henson programming which leads me to believe that there is still a beautiful tomorrow for Kermit and the gang. I do believe that the Villains show is Disney's reaction to Epic Universe and the success of the Dark Universe will dictate how the Villains project proceeds. It's not like there aren't a few 'theatres' in DHS that could house the Villains show freeing up the Sunset Blvd corner for a Muppet mini-land. Like Monsters Inc, a Muppet land would greatly benefit from immersion with animated windows, props, and Muppet window appearances as they did in Liberty Square.
I agree with you mostly but I don’t know what theater they could have used instead But I think Disney big muppets fear is it doesn’t resonate with the younger audience on a large scale but they know it still can draw us adults. Jollywood show being a prime example. Maybe if rollercoaster turns to be a hit the could then move into the villain theater when the move to mk
I’m still trying to figure out how exactly they’re going to fit the door coaster in that small backstage space without having to reroute Cypress Drive/the parking lot. I guess I’m just curious to see how it all fits together in the end.
Compared to Zootopia in Shanghai, this land looks super boring. Where's the monster fun? Just give us the ride. Disney cant even compete with their own parks in Asia, forget universal.
This was great to watch! I think it's important for us to keep a realistic outlook....Disney almost never puts in the same level of detail that they have in their concept art anymore. And about seeing "backstage".... i do think they do this on purpose sometimes to keep with the original theme of the park (like those crazy spires on the back of galaxy's edge...that had to be on purpose, right??????) 😅
Disneyland needs to focus at competing with the immersive experiences at Tokyo Disneyland. Walt Disney World can focus on competing with the Universal Studios moderately themed roller coasters.
Disney owns all the technology in the parks. They let OLC pay for the research and development and then in X amount of years they bring that tech stateside. They get a cut of every dollar made in Tokyo. They’re very happy with their partnership and they don’t care if you aren’t able to make to there. They want you to go to all the parks world wide. They offer a package on Adventures by Disney. There are 12 parks around the globe (not counting water parks).
I agree, Tokyo Disney Seas is the best Imagineered theme park that the Disney Compan has ever created but does not own! If only they would bring projects like the, Beauty and the Beast attraction or Journey to the center of the earth roller coaster to the US, and their parks only cost $70 USD to enter! And dont get me started about how great their Hotels are and how cheap compared to WDW.
@@StromboliTastesGood yeah Disney Tokyo is like best situation for Disney. They don't need to run the park pay staff and all thatand still get a cut from the profits. And OLC being a good operator, they don't have any fear of their brand being mishandled
Muppets area is so under used. I think they are planning something bigger for the Animation Courtyard. Bob Iger did say they are setting funds assign for future attractions. Hold on people.
This was a great vid. I never have time to analyze the concept art to break down what might be coming. I really appreciate spending a few mins here to hear what your thoughts are on these new ideas and projects.
The door coaster will be a monster E-ticket...pun intended. A Vekoma suspended family coaster will be a great "first big coaster" for many kids, plus the theming potential of the door warehouse and the potential visual gags/thrills will be so much fun. I can imagine how much fun Mike and Sulley will be throughout. And think about it: Slinky Dog is an almost un-themed family coaster and it draws MASSIVE crowds all day long. DHS badly needs more classic rides. MK has 5 coasters...DHS needs more rides to balance out the mix.
Love the content Brickey! I think it’d be interesting to see what artwork located in Epic Universe has Disney’s Imagineer influences, or ideas that had been set aside by Disney, that Universal has now made a reality.
While I'm excited for this transformation ( other than losing muppets) I'm at the " I'll believe it when I see it" when it comes to the cool details shown in the art. They any more tend to get us excited about a project and the reality is not like what was presented. Especially at WDW even though it's the most visited resort, it always gets the budgets slashed . Unless if it's a hotel.
It totally feels like Disney is no longer cutting edge with Universal theme parks really doing amazing job in getting themes AND coasters into the parks, effectively combining what makes Disney and Six Flags successful. I think the torch has been passed to Universal... or rather Universal grabbed it and ran with it. Don't get me wrong... I love DL but too many bad decisions in the last 10-20 years and too expensive.
I can't wait for all the food options to come here. Like Drooler Cooler Soda (by Coca-Cola), Scarebucks (by Starbucks), Tony’s Grossery, Krispy Scream Doughnuts (maybe by Krispy Cream Doughnuts), Abominable Snowman Snow Cones, Le Petit Grrr and of course Harryhausen's.
Excellent break-down of the Monstropolis project Brickey! You are so right to question if this land feels thrown together, and to wonder if it stands up to modern theme park competition. The approach Disney is taking here of reusing existing buildings (with fairly cosmetic changes) and taking the same approach in Tropical America's at Disney Animal Kingdom, is signaling a serious frugality. That's why back home at Disney California Adventure I find it hard to believe the same Parks leadership will demolish all the structures of Hollywood Land/Backlot as rumored. I think we'll see that same frugality at play. I'm sorry if that feels like a digression, but really my point is that your questions about Monstropolis -- is frugally re-skinning a land to make a new land truly a competitive, long-term approach? -- applies across multiple Disney Parks.
I wish they would have rethemed Star Tours to a Muppets Ride. You could have “traveled by map” or something. I know ST is a classic, but it just feels so strange having a star wars ride outside of the Star Wars land. Especially when millenium falcon is very similar in concept
Nothing against a Monsters Inc area, but this project is basically: demo of one building, demo part of a parking lot, build a coaster building in parking lot, and re-skin existing buildings with teeth and eyeballs. Seems like the easy road. Demo Launch Bay or offices beyond would cost way more. And yes, it seems a bit of a reactive move.
It seems that recently, Disney has been more about short-term gains, and not long-term planning. It's either, "What can we slap in here quickly?" Or, "What recent IP can we shoehorn into our parks?" It's a disaster. The current Disney management is extremely short-sighted.
It is a good idea to create a new land but Disney may make stuff that they think could be permanent but in reality it would be only good for a one time thing.
I would love to see Disney follow more of a design vision. Disneyland's circular pathways layout creates such a great navigation vibe. There are few dead ends where the story dead ends.
12:36 I'm so glad you brought this up about the concept art including the backstage area. While I was looking at these concept images again while you're showing them in the video, it struck me how interesting it is that Disney chose to show us all of the building's actual shapes and movie-set-like facades (0:56 + 5 seconds) in that particular image versus some fantastical representation of the area as Disney is notorious in doing in their park maps. Granted these were from D23 and seem more meant for internal visualization rather than mass marketing, but nonetheless, it's respectable (insomuch as a multi-national corporate conglomerate can be) that they dropped the act for the public at all.
Hey Bricky! Another great video. I’m not concerned about how Disney has dusted off an old Monsters, Inc. idea. Imagineering is always developing attraction concepts for new and old IPs. The fact Disney is now rolling out a Monsters, Inc. land shows its time has finally come. We’re finally getting a long overdue Lion King attraction in Paris. The fact Disney shared competing Monsters, Inc. land concept art shows they toyed with placing the land in various locations (including the California Adventure Backlot). That’s fine. Is Monsters, Inc. land enough to compete with Epic Universe? No! But, that’s not the full story. Disney is building Monsters, Inc. land, Tropical Americas, new Frontierland, and Villains land. Is that enough to compete. Probably, yes. Is more to come at D23 2026? Probably, yes.
Not certain they see this as a high risk play. Disney knows new attractions sell tickets. Universal quite frankly doesn’t really compete (which isn’t that popular an idea with theme park fans). But, I do point to the Hollywood park as the main reason why I say this. There is nothing NBC/Universal can do to make their Hollywood park any more than a half day. Which is why they had to expand in florida and texas. WDW has maxed out in their development plans outside cosmetic and land expansion to under utilized areas.
I know this has nothing to do with Monsters Inc. But, I don't like how the long lines for Smuggler's Run in Galaxy's Edge runs right up to Toy Story Land. They messed up with the theming there.
It feels a bit like a step back. Monsters Inc is great, but it was great 15-20 years ago also. It’s like Disney is stuck in their past, almost hesitant to try out new ideas. They need about 15 new, ORIGINAL ideas, then go to the theme parks from there. Bring some original rides from Disneyworld to DL!
Hey brickey! In Walt Disney world can you please tell me why they do not expand Disney Hollywood studios into the parking lot and then push the parking lot back on the other side of the entrance road??? They keep on removing attractions and moving things around which is actually more costly I mean what the hell is this new thing these days then they wonder why they're being criticized all the time. They have all kinds of land and they keep on a tight footprint in the parks that they have.....
Just bumped into you at the Portland airport Brickey. Awesome to meet you! And just coming home from my 5 day disneyland gettaway. Weird place to see you, back in my home town of PDX
I feel like Epic is forcing Disney’s hand a little to move on these projects. Hopefully they design these areas and attractions the old Disney detailed way not the new EPCOT modern Disney way. I also feel like they may try to rush these projects to compete. Hopefully they take their time and do them right like they did with Pandora. We’re OK waiting longer for perfection.
I'm starting to think in a decade or two it could work out if they but muppet vision in the show case theater and the animation courtyard has something like inside out or zootopia replace it
As always, I love the video. A simple request, only say what you're going to say once/twice at the top of your videos. Then when you say something like "Disney always does this..." or similar, please give an example or two. It makes me feel dumb for not knowing what you're talking about. Always excited to see when you post a new video.
Disney has no answer for Epic Universe. Well Disney’s response to Epic is to close a bunch of rides for several years and add a ride here and there. Basically slightly adding capacity at the MK only in about 7 years. Not very well thought out.
Monsters Inc land will be a great addition at first. Just like muppets courtyard was a great addition at first. It’s all about how Disney will handle the franchise after they build it. Disney has bungled the muppets into general obscurity. It’s been 24 years from part 1 and 12 years from part 2. So they’re going to have to release a part 3 within the next 5 years to really capture the hype. Hopefully it will be a good movie and then they can keep building on the franchise thus keeping the land fresh and relevant for 10-20 years.
The Laugh Floor suspended ride coaster will be an off-the-shelf system that Disney can quickly install. Don't expect a "Guardians of the Galaxy" EPCOT coaster, folks. Monsters Inc. Land will be compared to Super Nintendo World at Epic Universe, no way for Disney to avoid it.
Disney has no answer for Epic Universe. Well Disney’s response to Epic is to close a bunch of rides for several years and add a ride here and there. Basically slightly adding capacity at the MK only in about 7 years. Not very well thought out. They have reduced capacity while Epic is increasing capacity. Iger has stated he knew about this for over 10 years. People blames Chapek for a lot of Disney cutbacks, but they continue long after he left and Iger is still there. The board needs to fire Iger. He should have been fired shortly after he took over the second time.
While I agree that Epic Universe is going to suck some of Disney's parkgoers, I do not think that this Monsters Inc. plan will take any of that traffic back. Not only does the loss of the Muppet Vision sadden many people but they are going to take years to complete the whole thing. They need to just use some of their mass amounts of land to add a new section on the park or just a whole new park. Don't forget that they are already tearing up the Magic Kingdom. And from what I have seen from their new "updates" they are missing the mark on every level.
I agree with many here... why Monsters Inc? Sure, it was a good movie, 24 years ago. Let that sink in. Finding Nemo 2003 The Incredibles 2004 Cars 2006 Ratatouille 2007 WALL-E 2008 UP 2009 Brave 2012 Inside Out / The Good Dinosaur 2015 Finding Dory 2016 Coco 2017 Onward / Soul 2020 Luca 2021 Turning Red / Lightyear 2022 Out of all these, let's see a mix of Coco (Pixar) and Encanto (Disney Animation film) instead of Monsters Inc
Y'know, ever since I was a kid, I had always wanted to go to Disney Park. I almost got to go once but then it never happened. As the years go by, I slowly just don't care for the land anymore because of their morals going in the wrong direction. Especially with them taking down history between the Muppets creator and Disney from when they worked together to try and create a wonderful land for Muppet fans alike before his passing. It just hurts to see Disney going in the wrong direction not only with their movies but also their parks.
Thanks for the video. Love the thought process on it might have been rushed. Makes you stop and think. Got me wondering maybe they know exactly what they were doing. Make it hard to determine where it was going so the story would stay with they are creating a Monsters land, versus they are getting rid of the muppets.
Nothing Disney has done in the recent past gives me any reason to be excited or for me to put faith in what they’re doing. The fact that they decided to copy galaxy‘s edge from California exactly and drop it into Florida, made it to where they completely locked themselves in And screwed themselves over for any type of expansion. If they would’ve designed that differently, they would’ve had all that room that they used to turn into employee parking as a new expansion pad and you wouldn’t have to get rid of any of this. You could have kept Muppets where it’s at And use the Muppets area to lead into a monsters Inc. land without having to get rid of anything. Also, I’m not really sure who is still into monsters Inc. I don’t see that being a a very popular IP anymore. They want to make brand new lands for cars and monsters Inc. and arguably their most popular character right now is Moana and all she got was a splash pad
Don't get me wrong I like Monsters Inc. But it's unfortunate that it has to replace the Muppet land area. It's disrespectful to Jim Henson. A man I didn't know much about until I learned the news of his final project being demolished. Disney no longer cares how much love and effort you put your mind into something you worked so hard for. They're literally the villains. We've somehow ended up in an alternate reality that sucks.
Like honestly… the one monster ink ride I would want is the one that’s all ready in Japan. But we gonna get another 30sec long roller coaster with a 2hr wait. We truly have no need for this. If anything they should be making a 5th gate and doing some BS you must stay on property to visit for the first year.
Now, im no WDW expert by any imagination. I've only been once, and that was back 2008. When we went to DHS, we went to Muppets and ate at Momma Melrose, but that's it. I found nothing to keep me there. I know there is history with Disney and Muppets, but at the current age of television and park goers, does Muppets hold enough to keep going?? I believe this is why Disney picked this area to refresh and bring in new life. Original Mosters movie has been around for a long time now. It's still relevant to up and coming children and young adults at this time.
I am still wondering what are they going to do with the old muppets theater. Are they going to movie the laugh floor over and if they do what will come to Tomorrowland then
I grew up with the Muppets and love them…but my nieces and nephews never had any interest in them. It’s like how someone from the 50s loved Howdy Doody but I have no interest in him. This is exactly how anyone under 40 feels about the Muppets. That is 1000% Disney’s fault for not putting out movies and shows to get Millennials and Gen-Z interested. So they pretty much ruined the brand.
Hopefully they were waiting for the correct technology to finally build the doors roller coaster properly, just like with Space Mountain that took decades before it could come to reality. 🙏👋🤞
With the recent closing of Splash mountain, and replacing it with Tiana’s Bayou, as well as other rides in the past that have been replaced or repurposed, we are left wondering if Disney knows the value of keeping the classics alive. It fails to impress me that Disney thinks the next best thing is actually the next best thing. And who are they competing against? Surely with all the Disney parks and the hefty price tag to get in, Disney should be doing well, without having to redesign a ride, or create a whole new area, where a once beloved attraction is still bringing in guests. I think you said it correctly when you stated “too little too late” We are a decade from when the Monsters Inc came out, and it doesn’t seem like the excitement is still lingering on. I think it would be better to refresh the Muppets, in Honor of Jim Henson, and just make it new again. If Disney feels the need to compete with the newer animated movies, then create a whole new theme park, allowing those newer movies to dwell there. And be smart in the purchase of the land, so that future animation movies can be added to that park without taking a ride down or re-theming a ride. It makes more sense to build a new park (and they will come) than to destroy what we have had for years. And to be quite honest, bring back some of those attractions that we loved so dearly. We tend to get rid of things to easily.
why is everyone making fun of disney in the comments and comparing them to Epic Universe? Epic isnt even coherent, its 4 random IPs stitched onto a galactic-themed hub. The only uniquely awesome land is the Universal Monsters land, which looks to have a great dark ride and a painfully brisk kid's spinner coaster. We've already seen Mario in 2 other universal parks so we have a good idea of what it will be before it even launches here, since its basically a cloned land, and the donkey kong cart ride looks very short. Dragons is a cool land but its primarily for kids, and no dark rides either, with essentially a lite version of Hagrid's being the real attraction there. harry potter is interesting but the idea of a parisian city street is LITERALLY almost the same to what disney is doing here, and yet you guys are applauding universal for making what amounts to 2 great dark rides (including frankestein and HP) and a giant mack dueling coaster that isnt themed at all. im excited for epic too, but it isnt like THEY'RE making these timeless, IP-free rides. they do the same stuff disney does, with more immersion in some cases, sure, but we havent seen any truly unique rides like pirates or haunted mansion or space mountain from universal since dueling dragons
The park needs more dark rides not another under capacity roller coaster. A Muppet dark ride would be better. They could also dig up the Nightmare Before Christmas dark ride. Monsters is just what WDW has been deduced to a family Six Flags style coaster that they can charge $20 for people to ride in their app or melt them in the sun as wait hours to ride standby then they can eat at a quick service with no seats or tables. I find it sad that DreamWorks at Universal Studios Florida has better design astics then Toy Story Land which was too lazy to even get the scale right
After the haunted Manson Home Depot shed was placed I kinda lost all hope that Disney is really thinking anything through at this point 😭 how are they not even going to consider size proportions when even basic Disneyland fans know about that?! I hope ale take a turn for the better in the future!
Disney needs to EXPAND their parks, not retheme them!
Absolutely!
Disney after I take over and make it great again will not retheme or expand unless it's bringing back old things. It will shrink.
Beyond the design questions - does Monsters Inc really have a strong enough brand recognition to withstand 10-20 years or is this just a “lets do this for the sake of doing something” kinda deal and see what sticks?
If the land is well designed and the ride is good, then it should work. I mean should universal dedicate a huge section of epic to how to train your dragon?
With every generation comes the reality of how to keep crowds coming back, in twenty years the Muppets may return! LOL
crazy thing is they don't even need Disney themed lands - frontier land, adventure land, space mountain, thunder mountain etc. aren't from films. it just needs to have a cohesive vibe. I guess that makes it harder to sell merchandise though
@@outriggerunderground Iger's allergic to non-IP attractions.
@@outriggerundergroundArguably the parks best things come from original ideas that aren't IP based but fuck if modern imagineering has an ounce of creativity to be able to create a new story and a new world from the ground up. Look at HM and Pirates. Both original ideas. Or if you want a 21st century example, Mystic Manor is loosely based on HM but is it's own thing and it's a lovely experience with a good story. Disney has proven they don't need to stick their characters in everything for it to be successful.
If the EPCOT "improvements" are any indication on what to expect, I would not put much faith in the new art work. By the time it actually gets built the budget and details will be reduced to account for delays in construction and planning. Disney is no longer the imagination and detail oriented company it once was.
Brian Hernández, ¿ya te subiste al de Guardians of the Galaxy y a Ratatouille? O "nomas" por escribir algo?
EPCOT once had a cogent theme, a unified environment with attractions that related to one another. It tried to mean something by aspiring to a balance of educational and entertainment experiences. Now, it's just a hodge-podge of unrelated experiences (maybe with the exception of World Showcase).
"Guardians" may be a cool ride, but it has nothing to do with real-world sciences - other than the coaster incorporating a contemporary use of physics.
EPCOT has been reduced to a park with outdated and evanescent theming.
Galaxy's Edge is a great example of this as well.
Epcot was killed by covid
@@be5376 You don't really believe that, do you? Like so many other projects that Disney has over-promised and under-delivered, EPCOT was ruined by poor planning, budget constraints and outright lack of concern for the guest experience.
Disney used to be the masters of full environments abuzz with kinetic energy. They seemed to have lost (or abandoned) that. Just being in a static land is so passé for audiences.
How is anything that has been shown so far able to give you that conclusion? This is such a strange comment of all things you could bash Disney for.
I believe Phil has hit the nail right on the head. And I believe abandoned is the correct description. You may not be able to see from this video, but being there, in person, past and present, it's obvious. It used to be engaging. Now it's more like a public park atmosphere. Blank and lacking detail. Just homogonous.
I’m sorry but this is a terrible idea. This belongs on the other side of the park at Launch Bay. That would put it next to Toy Story Land and make the park flow better. Disney has lost the importance of its history and doesn’t know its fan base. The are ruining the park experience.
there’s offices behind lunch bay and Disney is not remove the offices
My wish list would be keep the Muppets where they are, build Monsters Inc. attraction in Animation Courtyard, and retheme the Rock-n-Rollercoaster with either Monster's Inc or Zootopia with Dash the sloth if Aerosmith is going away.
I don’t know anyone that excited for this, I think people are currently just grieving the loss of the original Jim Henson muppets.
Vast majority of people are excited for this coaster
@ who are you listening to? Literally every different type of Disney commentator and comments I’ve seen on their videos is talking about what a stupid move removing the muppets is. Maybe people are interested in a new ride, sure, but it’s not the paramount talking point surrounding the news at all. It’s come from people that usually agree with most of the companies decisions and people who regularly disagree, most people are on the same page with this one and they’re not parading the coaster just yet.
My concern is the main ride just looks too small, especially with the internal layout model they’ve shown - barely 50 second ride?
Yep, think TRON Lightcycle Run. A two hour wait for a minute coaster.
Honestly my biggest gripe with this plan, is that the factory is blocking the only feasible walkway to future expansions that could’ve been put beyond muppets/batuu
That is one of the best comments yet
I really hope they preserve the Miss Piggy fountain (and maybe the Kermit tuxedo statue from the store) and bring them over to where the retheme of Aerosmith will be.
With one exception, everything announced at D23 is all No Thoughts, Mindlessly Chuck Money. There hasn't been any true vision in the parks division for a while.
What was the one exception?
There is no reason that gate couldn’t have been angled so that M3D remained ‘outside’ the new land.
I think a Monsters, Inc. land could work, but to make it truly perfect, they need to focus on making the entrance more immersive. Having it located right next to the entrance of Galaxy’s Edge doesn’t feel like the best choice, as it’s likely to create heavy crowd congestion in that corner of the park. Instead, they should have considered moving the entrance closer to the Star Tours area, allowing for better crowd flow.
Additionally, the entrance design should feel like a real gateway into the Monsters, Inc. universe-something akin to the immersion you experience at Diagon Alley in Universal Studios. Universal has figured out what’s beating Disney right now: guests don’t just want great theming; they want full immersion. What they don’t want is a quick, cheap fix-painting some walls, adding a few monster eyes, and calling it a day. Disney needs to go all-in to create a land that feels authentic and magical, not something that simply hopes to fool guests with surface-level details.
tbf, Monstropolis is basically just a typical Human city like you'd see in Boston or Seattle or somewhere, it looks just like a normal city but with some subtle "spike" ornamentation to give it charm, like the the grill of Mike's car being spiked teeth, so its not that it wont be well themed, its just that the conversion wont even require that much effort to begin with
I’d say the problem is that Disney is building a land and a smaller area where Muppets is which is the last project that Jim Henson worked on, they need to build it over at animation courtyard because there’s way more space over there and that way they can keep Muppets
I love muppets I actually got to watch it but it is a place for many people to just go cool off. And no it’s not more land because they are expanding into a parking lot.
I hope the Harryhausesn's eye moves around.
I'm only 2 minutes into the video, but a Door Coaster has always been a dream attraction.
There’s something I can’t quite put my finger on. Maybe it IS “too little, too late”… not sure. It’s just that the area is so very clever now and has such heart. I love a coaster as much as anyone and this looks fun, but it’s hard to say I’m “sure” the land will be great. Current state of Disney is more 🤞than “sure” and that’s disheartening. Let’s hope the land is more than a tunnel to the coaster. Because the one sure thing is that a large capacity theatre is going to be replaced with a virtual queue, ILL, and eventually (? see Guardians) long standby attraction.
Area is clever now and has “heart” - but no attendance. Nobody goes there. Place is empty. All the time. Anything new there will be received better than the 30 year old mess that’s there now.
Appreciate the fair critique and practical analysis. I’m biased as I love this IP and didn’t grow up watching the muppets… so I’m pretty optimistic but they’ve got a few challenges.
That back stage in the art is unforgivable though!
I hope Disney does not do like Universal and Knott's Berry Farm and constantly fill their parks primarily with roller coasters. There comes a time when the person who was able to ride those coasters will no longer be able to do so which leads to the need to have plenty for them to do when visiting those areas of the park. Age has nothing to do with it here as my younger brother (who is 7 years younger than myself) cannot handle a lot of roller coaster rides and certain other rides, such as Astro Orbiter, and I currently have no problem with them as of this time. Disney should not feel a need to compete with Universal as each one has their own style of entertainment. Disney built their reputation on being able to tell a story. I live about 30 minutes driving time from Universal Studios Hollywood. I remember it as being a place where you would find some shops (not as many as now), some places to eat (unlike the pricey sit-down service places they have now) and several shows along with the studio tour tram ride and that was it.
This is simply a knee-jerk reaction to Epic Universe. The problem here is Bob Iger's vanity. It gets in the way of good decision making and playing to your audience.
PREACH!
Drop the IPs, make adventures again! Make an entire Pirates Land, imagine Peter Pans flight vehicles that can also be amphibious and become a water ride. There are so many adventures that could exist simply as rides themselves.
Yes, i've been saying the same. The Next Gen park will be IP-less. I bet Universal beats Disney to the punch with a 4th park in the next 15 years. In the meantime IP-less rides are the way to go. The last great one I can think of is Everest.
I wish you could have experienced the old MGM. Streets of America and the theming of a working studio. It didn't age well. But you would have appreciated much of it!
Man am I glad to see you air brush in those trees. What were they thinking releasing artwork like that?! It's going to be an interesting part of the park for sure.
I wish they’d just leave Muppet Vision 3D and the fountain be and make the Monsters door coaster/Harryhausen’s in the back. Slapping Muppets on Rock n Roller Coaster is very lazy, and what are they gonna do import the Laugh floor over from Magic Kingdom for MV3D building?
Muppet vision is prime real estate for a new attraction that will draw in crowds. Was it a bad move to replace jaws for Diagon alley?
@ Yeah, I liked Jaws better. But I totally get what you mean lol
@@heatinconnu2406I feel like most people would disagree with you but ima let you have your own opinion
I don't have anything against the Monsters IP, but can someone explain why MuppetVision 3D can't coexist and maintain variety in the same land/environment?
You are spot on - the real question of whether or not Disney is serious will come down to how they develop the other side of the park given the constraints with the current office space taking up too much valuable park real estate along Hollywood Blvd. If they were removing the entire parking lot behind where Monsters Inc land is headed and constructing a new office park I'd be inclined to think that Disney was thinking long term about the health of this park. Since that doesn't appear to be the case, they are just patch-working with a band-aid solution.
You would think that Disney would keep muppet vision opened for the rest of this year. After all dinasaur in the animal kingdom is going to be opened for the rest of this year .
What I was actually hoping for was to have muppet vision stay opened in 2026 or and not close until sometime in 2027. But that didn't happen.
The muppet mayhem 3D show would have been a better compromise.
Disney won't admit it, but they're trying and failing to catch up to Epic Universe. Epic Universe is looking to be absolutely incredible and is going to draw in people who never even really considered going to Universal. Since Harry Potter first came to Universal Orlando, Disney has been falling behind. While Avatar looks beautiful and sounds like an incredible land, I contribute that to the heavy involvement of Joe Rhode and not Disney.
EXACTLY. Well said.
It seems like the Disney and Henson companies are both to blame for the lack of theme park presence. It does make sense that Monsters Inc is still relevant and has a definitive universe consisting of cityscapes and campus which fits in that corner of the park. If the immersion included animated windows it could have a really long shelf life. While the door coaster is an older concept, it is still a great one whose time has come. Just please do not slap in a Laugh Floor and call it a day! As for the Muppets, I'm a huge fan and hate to see the changes, but that area of the park feels like an afterthought and their main store has been closed. Since the Muppets don't have a designated "world" a studio/lab type land would work, and I hope that the corner where Rockin Rollercoaster resides will absorb a Muppet expansion. While swapping Aerosmith with the Muppet solves a few problems, it does mean that there isn't a family friendly Muppet experience, unless your family has a proclivity for inversions. There has been an increase in Jim Henson programming which leads me to believe that there is still a beautiful tomorrow for Kermit and the gang. I do believe that the Villains show is Disney's reaction to Epic Universe and the success of the Dark Universe will dictate how the Villains project proceeds. It's not like there aren't a few 'theatres' in DHS that could house the Villains show freeing up the Sunset Blvd corner for a Muppet mini-land. Like Monsters Inc, a Muppet land would greatly benefit from immersion with animated windows, props, and Muppet window appearances as they did in Liberty Square.
I agree with you mostly but I don’t know what theater they could have used instead
But I think Disney big muppets fear is it doesn’t resonate with the younger audience on a large scale but they know it still can draw us adults. Jollywood show being a prime example. Maybe if rollercoaster turns to be a hit the could then move into the villain theater when the move to mk
Hey brickey I'm at Florida this week Friday I'm going to Epcot didn't know if ya do meet & greet just to say Hi really do like your Disney video
I’m still trying to figure out how exactly they’re going to fit the door coaster in that small backstage space without having to reroute Cypress Drive/the parking lot. I guess I’m just curious to see how it all fits together in the end.
Compared to Zootopia in Shanghai, this land looks super boring. Where's the monster fun? Just give us the ride. Disney cant even compete with their own parks in Asia, forget universal.
This was great to watch! I think it's important for us to keep a realistic outlook....Disney almost never puts in the same level of detail that they have in their concept art anymore.
And about seeing "backstage".... i do think they do this on purpose sometimes to keep with the original theme of the park (like those crazy spires on the back of galaxy's edge...that had to be on purpose, right??????) 😅
Disney just has no idea what is going on anymore.
Disneyland needs to focus at competing with the immersive experiences at Tokyo Disneyland. Walt Disney World can focus on competing with the Universal Studios moderately themed roller coasters.
Why would Disney compete with itself? If you are able to go to Tokyo they want you to go there.
I think because the Tokyo Disney park’s aren’t run by Disney themselves. Disney licensed their brand to a Japanese company that runs the parks.
Disney owns all the technology in the parks. They let OLC pay for the research and development and then in X amount of years they bring that tech stateside. They get a cut of every dollar made in Tokyo. They’re very happy with their partnership and they don’t care if you aren’t able to make to there. They want you to go to all the parks world wide. They offer a package on Adventures by Disney. There are 12 parks around the globe (not counting water parks).
I agree, Tokyo Disney Seas is the best Imagineered theme park that the Disney Compan has ever created but does not own! If only they would bring projects like the, Beauty and the Beast attraction or Journey to the center of the earth roller coaster to the US, and their parks only cost $70 USD to enter! And dont get me started about how great their Hotels are and how cheap compared to WDW.
@@StromboliTastesGood yeah Disney Tokyo is like best situation for Disney. They don't need to run the park pay staff and all thatand still get a cut from the profits. And OLC being a good operator, they don't have any fear of their brand being mishandled
Muppets area is so under used. I think they are planning something bigger for the Animation Courtyard. Bob Iger did say they are setting funds assign for future attractions. Hold on people.
Man. I love Disney, but this does really feel like they are playing catch up. I just hope they can match the immersion of Harry Potter at Universal.
This was a great vid. I never have time to analyze the concept art to break down what might be coming. I really appreciate spending a few mins here to hear what your thoughts are on these new ideas and projects.
Glad you liked it!
The door coaster will be a monster E-ticket...pun intended. A Vekoma suspended family coaster will be a great "first big coaster" for many kids, plus the theming potential of the door warehouse and the potential visual gags/thrills will be so much fun. I can imagine how much fun Mike and Sulley will be throughout. And think about it: Slinky Dog is an almost un-themed family coaster and it draws MASSIVE crowds all day long. DHS badly needs more classic rides. MK has 5 coasters...DHS needs more rides to balance out the mix.
Love the content Brickey! I think it’d be interesting to see what artwork located in Epic Universe has Disney’s Imagineer influences, or ideas that had been set aside by Disney, that Universal has now made a reality.
While I'm excited for this transformation ( other than losing muppets) I'm at the " I'll believe it when I see it" when it comes to the cool details shown in the art. They any more tend to get us excited about a project and the reality is not like what was presented. Especially at WDW even though it's the most visited resort, it always gets the budgets slashed . Unless if it's a hotel.
It totally feels like Disney is no longer cutting edge with Universal theme parks really doing amazing job in getting themes AND coasters into the parks, effectively combining what makes Disney and Six Flags successful. I think the torch has been passed to Universal... or rather Universal grabbed it and ran with it. Don't get me wrong... I love DL but too many bad decisions in the last 10-20 years and too expensive.
I can't wait for all the food options to come here. Like Drooler Cooler Soda (by Coca-Cola), Scarebucks (by Starbucks), Tony’s Grossery, Krispy Scream Doughnuts (maybe by Krispy Cream Doughnuts), Abominable Snowman Snow Cones, Le Petit Grrr and of course Harryhausen's.
Excellent break-down of the Monstropolis project Brickey! You are so right to question if this land feels thrown together, and to wonder if it stands up to modern theme park competition. The approach Disney is taking here of reusing existing buildings (with fairly cosmetic changes) and taking the same approach in Tropical America's at Disney Animal Kingdom, is signaling a serious frugality. That's why back home at Disney California Adventure I find it hard to believe the same Parks leadership will demolish all the structures of Hollywood Land/Backlot as rumored. I think we'll see that same frugality at play. I'm sorry if that feels like a digression, but really my point is that your questions about Monstropolis -- is frugally re-skinning a land to make a new land truly a competitive, long-term approach? -- applies across multiple Disney Parks.
No 👎 the Walt Disney Company going the wrong way with this
I wish they would have rethemed Star Tours to a Muppets Ride. You could have “traveled by map” or something. I know ST is a classic, but it just feels so strange having a star wars ride outside of the Star Wars land. Especially when millenium falcon is very similar in concept
Huge step back. Especially considering all their post Covid projects just not meeting expectations.
Nothing against a Monsters Inc area, but this project is basically: demo of one building, demo part of a parking lot, build a coaster building in parking lot, and re-skin existing buildings with teeth and eyeballs. Seems like the easy road. Demo Launch Bay or offices beyond would cost way more. And yes, it seems a bit of a reactive move.
It seems that recently, Disney has been more about short-term gains, and not long-term planning. It's either, "What can we slap in here quickly?" Or, "What recent IP can we shoehorn into our parks?" It's a disaster. The current Disney management is extremely short-sighted.
It is a good idea to create a new land but Disney may make stuff that they think could be permanent but in reality it would be only good for a one time thing.
I would love to see Disney follow more of a design vision.
Disneyland's circular pathways layout creates such a great navigation vibe. There are few dead ends where the story dead ends.
That eye fountain could possibly be a Kugel Ball with the eye spinning which would be sicccckk.
Another concern is that now there’s even less for my toddlers to do at this park. They took away lightning McQueen, honey I shrunk the kids, now this.
12:36 I'm so glad you brought this up about the concept art including the backstage area. While I was looking at these concept images again while you're showing them in the video, it struck me how interesting it is that Disney chose to show us all of the building's actual shapes and movie-set-like facades (0:56 + 5 seconds) in that particular image versus some fantastical representation of the area as Disney is notorious in doing in their park maps. Granted these were from D23 and seem more meant for internal visualization rather than mass marketing, but nonetheless, it's respectable (insomuch as a multi-national corporate conglomerate can be) that they dropped the act for the public at all.
Hey Bricky! Another great video. I’m not concerned about how Disney has dusted off an old Monsters, Inc. idea. Imagineering is always developing attraction concepts for new and old IPs. The fact Disney is now rolling out a Monsters, Inc. land shows its time has finally come. We’re finally getting a long overdue Lion King attraction in Paris. The fact Disney shared competing Monsters, Inc. land concept art shows they toyed with placing the land in various locations (including the California Adventure Backlot). That’s fine. Is Monsters, Inc. land enough to compete with Epic Universe? No! But, that’s not the full story. Disney is building Monsters, Inc. land, Tropical Americas, new Frontierland, and Villains land. Is that enough to compete. Probably, yes. Is more to come at D23 2026? Probably, yes.
Not certain they see this as a high risk play. Disney knows new attractions sell tickets. Universal quite frankly doesn’t really compete (which isn’t that popular an idea with theme park fans). But, I do point to the Hollywood park as the main reason why I say this. There is nothing NBC/Universal can do to make their Hollywood park any more than a half day. Which is why they had to expand in florida and texas. WDW has maxed out in their development plans outside cosmetic and land expansion to under utilized areas.
I'm new to the channel!! This is the first video of yours I've watched. I'm look forward to more of your videos!!
I know this has nothing to do with Monsters Inc. But, I don't like how the long lines for Smuggler's Run in Galaxy's Edge runs right up to Toy Story Land. They messed up with the theming there.
It feels a bit like a step back. Monsters Inc is great, but it was great 15-20 years ago also. It’s like Disney is stuck in their past, almost hesitant to try out new ideas. They need about 15 new, ORIGINAL ideas, then go to the theme parks from there.
Bring some original rides from Disneyworld to DL!
It would not surprise me if the art department
isn't talking to the actual designers.
The fact of the matter is Monster's Inc has absolutely nothing to do with the art of cinema or the history of the entertainment industry.
Hey brickey! In Walt Disney world can you please tell me why they do not expand Disney Hollywood studios into the parking lot and then push the parking lot back on the other side of the entrance road??? They keep on removing attractions and moving things around which is actually more costly I mean what the hell is this new thing these days then they wonder why they're being criticized all the time.
They have all kinds of land and they keep on a tight footprint in the parks that they have.....
Great video as always!
I wish they would actually add to the parks, and stop replacing
the entrance of monsters land is going to be like Berkeley collage arch maybe as a reference to monster university
Just bumped into you at the Portland airport Brickey. Awesome to meet you! And just coming home from my 5 day disneyland gettaway. Weird place to see you, back in my home town of PDX
Hidden Brickeys are everywhere 😂
Nice to meet you!
I feel like Epic is forcing Disney’s hand a little to move on these projects. Hopefully they design these areas and attractions the old Disney detailed way not the new EPCOT modern Disney way. I also feel like they may try to rush these projects to compete. Hopefully they take their time and do them right like they did with Pandora. We’re OK waiting longer for perfection.
I'm starting to think in a decade or two it could work out if they but muppet vision in the show case theater and the animation courtyard has something like inside out or zootopia replace it
This should go into the Hollywood Backlot In DCA
As always, I love the video.
A simple request, only say what you're going to say once/twice at the top of your videos. Then when you say something like "Disney always does this..." or similar, please give an example or two. It makes me feel dumb for not knowing what you're talking about.
Always excited to see when you post a new video.
It's not even a land. It's just the new restaurant and new coaster. Which I could understand because of Villans Land
Disney has no answer for Epic Universe. Well Disney’s response to Epic is to close a bunch of rides for several years and add a ride here and there. Basically slightly adding capacity at the MK only in about 7 years. Not very well thought out.
Love your investigation and attention to detail ~
Monsters Inc land will be a great addition at first. Just like muppets courtyard was a great addition at first. It’s all about how Disney will handle the franchise after they build it. Disney has bungled the muppets into general obscurity. It’s been 24 years from part 1 and 12 years from part 2. So they’re going to have to release a part 3 within the next 5 years to really capture the hype. Hopefully it will be a good movie and then they can keep building on the franchise thus keeping the land fresh and relevant for 10-20 years.
The Laugh Floor suspended ride coaster will be an off-the-shelf system that Disney can quickly install. Don't expect a "Guardians of the Galaxy" EPCOT coaster, folks. Monsters Inc. Land will be compared to Super Nintendo World at Epic Universe, no way for Disney to avoid it.
Disney has no answer for Epic Universe. Well Disney’s response to Epic is to close a bunch of rides for several years and add a ride here and there. Basically slightly adding capacity at the MK only in about 7 years. Not very well thought out. They have reduced capacity while Epic is increasing capacity. Iger has stated he knew about this for over 10 years. People blames Chapek for a lot of Disney cutbacks, but they continue long after he left and Iger is still there. The board needs to fire Iger. He should have been fired shortly after he took over the second time.
While I agree that Epic Universe is going to suck some of Disney's parkgoers, I do not think that this Monsters Inc. plan will take any of that traffic back. Not only does the loss of the Muppet Vision sadden many people but they are going to take years to complete the whole thing. They need to just use some of their mass amounts of land to add a new section on the park or just a whole new park. Don't forget that they are already tearing up the Magic Kingdom. And from what I have seen from their new "updates" they are missing the mark on every level.
I agree with many here... why Monsters Inc? Sure, it was a good movie, 24 years ago. Let that sink in.
Finding Nemo 2003
The Incredibles 2004
Cars 2006
Ratatouille 2007
WALL-E 2008
UP 2009
Brave 2012
Inside Out / The Good Dinosaur 2015
Finding Dory 2016
Coco 2017
Onward / Soul 2020
Luca 2021
Turning Red / Lightyear 2022
Out of all these, let's see a mix of Coco (Pixar) and Encanto (Disney Animation film) instead of Monsters Inc
Y'know, ever since I was a kid, I had always wanted to go to Disney Park. I almost got to go once but then it never happened. As the years go by, I slowly just don't care for the land anymore because of their morals going in the wrong direction. Especially with them taking down history between the Muppets creator and Disney from when they worked together to try and create a wonderful land for Muppet fans alike before his passing. It just hurts to see Disney going in the wrong direction not only with their movies but also their parks.
Thanks for the video. Love the thought process on it might have been rushed. Makes you stop and think. Got me wondering maybe they know exactly what they were doing. Make it hard to determine where it was going so the story would stay with they are creating a Monsters land, versus they are getting rid of the muppets.
Nothing Disney has done in the recent past gives me any reason to be excited or for me to put faith in what they’re doing. The fact that they decided to copy galaxy‘s edge from California exactly and drop it into Florida, made it to where they completely locked themselves in And screwed themselves over for any type of expansion. If they would’ve designed that differently, they would’ve had all that room that they used to turn into employee parking as a new expansion pad and you wouldn’t have to get rid of any of this. You could have kept Muppets where it’s at And use the Muppets area to lead into a monsters Inc. land without having to get rid of anything. Also, I’m not really sure who is still into monsters Inc. I don’t see that being a a very popular IP anymore. They want to make brand new lands for cars and monsters Inc. and arguably their most popular character right now is Moana and all she got was a splash pad
Don't get me wrong I like Monsters Inc. But it's unfortunate that it has to replace the Muppet land area. It's disrespectful to Jim Henson. A man I didn't know much about until I learned the news of his final project being demolished. Disney no longer cares how much love and effort you put your mind into something you worked so hard for. They're literally the villains. We've somehow ended up in an alternate reality that sucks.
Like honestly… the one monster ink ride I would want is the one that’s all ready in Japan. But we gonna get another 30sec long roller coaster with a 2hr wait. We truly have no need for this. If anything they should be making a 5th gate and doing some BS you must stay on property to visit for the first year.
I would LOVE the Japan ride
Now, im no WDW expert by any imagination. I've only been once, and that was back 2008. When we went to DHS, we went to Muppets and ate at Momma Melrose, but that's it.
I found nothing to keep me there.
I know there is history with Disney and Muppets, but at the current age of television and park goers, does Muppets hold enough to keep going?? I believe this is why Disney picked this area to refresh and bring in new life.
Original Mosters movie has been around for a long time now. It's still relevant to up and coming children and young adults at this time.
I am still wondering what are they going to do with the old muppets theater. Are they going to movie the laugh floor over and if they do what will come to Tomorrowland then
Is that CREAM from Wu-Tang around the 14:45 mark?!?!!
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I grew up with the Muppets and love them…but my nieces and nephews never had any interest in them. It’s like how someone from the 50s loved Howdy Doody but I have no interest in him. This is exactly how anyone under 40 feels about the Muppets. That is 1000% Disney’s fault for not putting out movies and shows to get Millennials and Gen-Z interested. So they pretty much ruined the brand.
It was concept art, not a scope of work with details for installation!
Hopefully they were waiting for the correct technology to finally build the doors roller coaster properly, just like with Space Mountain that took decades before it could come to reality. 🙏👋🤞
This is so stupid everyone knows the Muppets. Monsters Inc is such a meh movie. I’m never gonna get over Pizza Rizzo being taken away.
Why not expand? Monsters Inc, Muppets and "The Dark Crystal" which has a bit of both.
Muppets is the first attraction I head to in the part. The rest except Indiana Jones’s are the only ones for me.
With the recent closing of Splash mountain, and replacing it with Tiana’s Bayou, as well as other rides in the past that have been replaced or repurposed, we are left wondering if Disney knows the value of keeping the classics alive. It fails to impress me that Disney thinks the next best thing is actually the next best thing. And who are they competing against? Surely with all the Disney parks and the hefty price tag to get in, Disney should be doing well, without having to redesign a ride, or create a whole new area, where a once beloved attraction is still bringing in guests.
I think you said it correctly when you stated “too little too late” We are a decade from when the Monsters Inc came out, and it doesn’t seem like the excitement is still lingering on. I think it would be better to refresh the Muppets, in Honor of Jim Henson, and just make it new again.
If Disney feels the need to compete with the newer animated movies, then create a whole new theme park, allowing those newer movies to dwell there. And be smart in the purchase of the land, so that future animation movies can be added to that park without taking a ride down or re-theming a ride. It makes more sense to build a new park (and they will come) than to destroy what we have had for years. And to be quite honest, bring back some of those attractions that we loved so dearly. We tend to get rid of things to easily.
why is everyone making fun of disney in the comments and comparing them to Epic Universe? Epic isnt even coherent, its 4 random IPs stitched onto a galactic-themed hub. The only uniquely awesome land is the Universal Monsters land, which looks to have a great dark ride and a painfully brisk kid's spinner coaster. We've already seen Mario in 2 other universal parks so we have a good idea of what it will be before it even launches here, since its basically a cloned land, and the donkey kong cart ride looks very short. Dragons is a cool land but its primarily for kids, and no dark rides either, with essentially a lite version of Hagrid's being the real attraction there. harry potter is interesting but the idea of a parisian city street is LITERALLY almost the same to what disney is doing here, and yet you guys are applauding universal for making what amounts to 2 great dark rides (including frankestein and HP) and a giant mack dueling coaster that isnt themed at all. im excited for epic too, but it isnt like THEY'RE making these timeless, IP-free rides. they do the same stuff disney does, with more immersion in some cases, sure, but we havent seen any truly unique rides like pirates or haunted mansion or space mountain from universal since dueling dragons
If they were going to recycle a old idea why not the Mythological Creatures Land in Animal Kingdom?
Something to distract us with losing Tom Sawyer's Island for a Carsland ride that could go in any other location close by?😂
The park needs more dark rides not another under capacity roller coaster. A Muppet dark ride would be better. They could also dig up the Nightmare Before Christmas dark ride. Monsters is just what WDW has been deduced to a family Six Flags style coaster that they can charge $20 for people to ride in their app or melt them in the sun as wait hours to ride standby then they can eat at a quick service with no seats or tables. I find it sad that DreamWorks at Universal Studios Florida has better design astics then Toy Story Land which was too lazy to even get the scale right
I think your question is answered at the 12:50 mark with Disney showing backstage in the artwork. ;)
After the haunted Manson Home Depot shed was placed I kinda lost all hope that Disney is really thinking anything through at this point 😭 how are they not even going to consider size proportions when even basic Disneyland fans know about that?! I hope ale take a turn for the better in the future!