that guy Aaron (thatsoaaron) did mention that it wasn't technically on the market and their timing was perfect, so he kind of hinted that you probably won't be able to get the same deal he got cuz he got lucky
Yup when I see people put these type of vids I'm just like ha! Okay I've lived in LA my whole life this is unrealistic. Lucky when u find places like this
@@elizabethdavis7358 I've lived in Monterey, Eureka and Santa Barbara. In SB I found a $1600/mo Apt that was 182 sqft, Monterey (7+ years ago) it was $1100/mo for ~400 sqft but Eureka has good prices and right on the coast. Unfortunately Eureka isn't what you'd call a population center lol.
@@elizabethdavis7358 Not exactly rural (entire Bay is ~70K population) but it's hard to find work and when you do it's usually minimum wage and P/T. It's beautiful and the weather is amazing, IF you can tolerate the Criminals PG&E shutting off power to the entire County for days at a time.
@@bookcadenb4584 - On that note, local rentals of decent quality and relative safety in the Bay Area are still much higher than they should be. EX: a 450 sq. ft. rectangle of a pseudo-cottage with no storage ( except a small basement that floods in the winter ), low ceilings, tiny-nothing living room, decent bedroom, and half kitchen, in downtown Martinez ( high demand ) went for $1K months ago. Yes, it's not SF nor LA, but the landlords tried to be accomodating in charging "less". They could have rented it for $1400...more? They at least weren't fully greedy, but $800 is fair , IMHO. $600 is more like it.
Not to mention... he's paying $1500 for a room. So, that 2 bedroom apartment is $3,000 a month and I'm sure utilities are not included in that figure. A fool and their money are soon parted.
Don’t let the media fool you. If you are a killed worker. You can live like a king in 70% of Africa. Rwanda is probably the cleanest country on earth. They require people to clean up and do community service once a month tho.
It would be sooo interesting if you could do a study of someone’s salary and how much they should be spending it on housing/bills/groceries etc. and how much money they should have left over for leisure. There are articles on this but I feel like you can break it down nicely. Would also be really cool if you did apartments in cities that millennials are moving to more often or predicted cities that are growing.
@@chriscolumbia9579 San Fran is quickly becoming the most expensive place to live in the U.S. now. But its because NYC is so much older, people have been living packed together there for such a long time where California has had huge migration recently.
@@BalletTapJazz SF is expensive, because that's where the highest paying jobs are and everyone wants to live in the best city in America. Has nothing to do with NYC.
I would be more worried about your complexion really girl cause dam, get that shit looked at pls. Also that straw like hair needs some attention as well, So much I could go into but anyway ya need some work so do us a favor pls because it's not working hun.
Rae ok you guys can stop saying this because you’re acting as if there’s no such thing as using a lot of dishes to cook and eat a meal. People have guests over and it takes loads of dishes and pots to cook up full corse meals for people. Not to mention things like thanksgiving dinner. Stop acting as if dish washers aren’t useful and this goes for that genius above you too.
you should see the average salary in SF tho, sure it's expensive but the average income is $110,816. Seems expensive but when you see how much they actually make....
I am from SF but I came to LA for grad school and I really thought I would love it here. There are pros and cons of living in both. One of the pros of LA is that you get to drive from place to place instead of using public transportation. The con is there is a lot of traffic. In SF you basically can't even really own a car...you could but it's honestly just a waste and your car would most likely get stolen/broken into. The thing I really don't like about LA is it is SO hard to meet people here. People are so immersed in their own bubble. People are also extremely superficial. It truly is "LaLaLand" because everyone has these unrealistic fantasy careers yet they try and flex anything they have. Even if you do meet people, they are never willing to go out of their way to meet with you because of the traffic/they are so obsessed with maintaining a certain "image". There is so much to do in LA but no one to do it with. Yes the rent is cheaper in the sense that you get more bang for your buck but it's so easy to get isolated in this huge city. I think SF has a culture of people that are a bit more open minded and willing to ACTUALLY meet up and develop their friendship circles. Maybe I am biased because I haven't found my people here yet.
No I’m from the Bay Area and felt the same way when I went down there for college. It’s different here. Biggest for me was cars. A lot of people do not have cars in the bay, not necessary, good public transportation.
I just moved to the Bay Area from SoCal and I think the same about the situation here lol I plan to go back to SoCal after a year because it just doesn’t feel home to me. But yes you might be right about it being this way because of not having found your people here.
Not sure about SF, but I (expat Canadian) lived in Silicon Valley for 9 years and didn’t find people all that friendly - not even our community friends, caught up in their busy lives. But my wife spent 10 years in LA (prior to me) and made lots of friends, though she’s very outgoing. That said, she did say a lot people tell her it’s hard to make friends in LA, though she as a filmmaker still tends to attract more down-to-earth people than flakes.
Jessica that could of been me on what you wrote, except I did have 2 friends during my entire time in Los Angeles (15 years). 1 still remains my friend, the other one were 've lost touch. Even if you think someone may be your friend in the end you find out it wasn't real
I’m from San Francisco and I definitely can attest that you get more for your money in LA. I was born and raised in San Fran and trust me it’s always been a very extremely expensive city.
Move to Lake Merritt, Oakland. Nice place with great vibe and there's a lake for you to jog around every evening. And the rent is probably around $1,500
I'm about a hour north of SF got a house, 3 bedroom, 2 bath, 2 car garage, about 1100 square feet, my mortgage payment is less than what one of people are paying renting a room. I think it's insane paying these crazy right rent prices. I really wouldn't want to live in either of these city's. SF has it's needles and poo all over the sidewalks. If I had to pick between the 2, it would be the LA location. I waited until this last housing market crashed and got my house at that time. That was around 6 years or so ago. I just can't see giving someone else a bunch or money to rent and have nothing.
@@kauigirl808 They could live where I do for vastly less money. Plenty of jobs available also. We don't have many homeless people here. But we also do not a temperate climate. Take from this what you will.........
@Greg Gagne You can take that money almost practically anywhere else and you'd get much more house for your money. But they these people just NEED to live in San Francisco or LA
I've seen worse looking apartments for $1k. There was one half bedroom, a bathroom that fit one person with the doorknob that would get stuck when it was closed. There wasn't really a kitchen...it was maybe 5 feet long and 4 feet wide. Barely enough room for a refrigerator. And the walls were thin AF
true..my Aunt lives is SF and she tells me otherwise. She owns two apartment that she rents out to students, specifically. Also, she just bought a house there for 1.1 m and it was literal trash. She had to tear the entire thing down and build a new house! what a deal..not!
these apartments are either pure luck or they knew people if you dont know people to get deals in these cities, then its almost impossible to live there for that price.
Lived in SF for 3 years and couldn't justify the cost. It's ok to be expensive, but it's not ok when you already paid that much and what you get is unacceptable living conditions. I always say to my friends that if your quality of life is below a threshold, it doesn't matter how much you pay, you are buying misery.
@@shannonleeann5643 Yes I agree, between overpaying for bad living conditions and a long commute with much better living conditions, I definitely would also choose the latter. But I really hope there is a third choice. I wish that in the future, people either have (1) many more housing options (2) much better mobility like decent public transportation like in Europe or Asia, or new modes of cheap transportation without bad traffic, perhaps system of self driving cars, hyperloop or flying cars (3) more remote working opportunities
@@NierAutomata2B I don't see how robot cars will decrease congestion.All this pie in the sky stuff like ride "share" have actually vastly increased gridlock. Many cities have seen it adversely affect public transportation too.
@@christinerowlanddeburca4399 Yeah self-driving cars themselves won't magically reduce traffic. It's the economics and people's mindset that will play major roles, and in turn, influence future city planning. If owning a car is 10-100x times more expensive and also more trouble because of maintenance, parking etc., people will abandon privately owned cars and join the autonomous fleets. But I don't see that happening any time soon. Hopefully it will happen in our lifetime. Ridesharing didn't create this level of shift in economics. Many people become drivers to earn money full time. The rides are still expensive in many cities and in low supply areas. People simply can't abandon car ownership for ridesharing in most cases.
My husband and I just moved from the Bay Area. We def like it in our new city and can actually afford a house! The stress just wasn't worth it and we couldn't have afforded kids in San Jose.
This video is painting a different picture of rent in San Francisco and the Bay Area. The house/apartment you have in the video is under rent control. Consider them lucky to even find rent that low. Normally rent would be around $7k for that place.
This video should be taken down due to the fact that it paints a false picture. I hope this does not encourage people to move down to San Francisco and expect to find rent this low.
Honestly for what your friends LA apartment is, I think he's getting a pretty decent amount for his money. That's a fantastic apartment, like you said it's like it's own house. If I could afford it, I'd live there in a heartbeat. The San Fran apartment? I think it's also a pretty nice place, but no way in hell do I think it's worth that kind of money.
yea the bay area is fucking insane. my house is 1,450 dollars per square foot, which is crazy for tiny houses without AC or updated appliances or anything.
@@pcthanh85 I've heard they're about the same at this point (with most people needing a car in Los Angeles which adds a lot more than a MetroCard lol) but I'm excited to move there next summer! Don't get me wrong I like New York but I love the nature of LA with all it's areas and separate cities
@@j2forew974 Having lived in both as well as SF, they are def not the same. NYC is the most expensive, pound for pound, due to the amount of space (or the lack thereof) and the quality of the buildings. Subway is not very reliable in NYC, and most people have to count Uber/cab in their monthly spendings. The houses/apartments are a lot older in NYC, with citations/code violations a common occurrence. Bay Area rent is super high as well, but there are houses you can rent, not just apartments like in NYC. Looking at realtor.com now, there are many listings around Bay Area for a Single Family Home for less than $1mn if you are to buy. This may exist in the outskirts of NYC, but definitely not somewhere you'd want to live in. LA is def the best bang for bucks out of the three, and downright cheap compared to the other two, no doubt. Having said that, if you're looking at mansions with 2 pools overlooking LA, then it's a different discussion...
Renovated shipping container style living may be the future. Lift it on to a truck and find a new location as needed. In Vancouver, landlords rent garden tent space for $1000 according to an article I read. It's up to the feds and municipal governments to build more affordable housing, no matter where you live.
san francisco is not a 5 hr drive from Los Angeles... more like 7 or 8 depending on traffic. (Correction.. its 7 or 8 if you go up the 101... but going up the 5 is the quickest)
Actually you can make it there in 5hrs, I lived in SF and now I live in LA and I've done it. (just depends on fast you drive and the time of day you head out) lol
oh my god NEVER take the 1 or the 101!! i'm sure in about 5 years when the 5 becomes a clusterfuck and we'll have no choice but 5 from la to sf always!
It is from the perspective of an LA resident. In LA hanging out on the roof is not a thing. People hang out by the pool or on the beach. In San Francisco, pools are not common (because real estate is precious, it is a tiny city) and beaches are way too cold most of the time.
Y’all always trying to find everything wrong about San Francisco it’s funny.. someone from like Iowa could have said that and you wouldn’t have blinked an eye
I'm in a rent controlled apartment for a a little bit lower price in Santa Monica. You can get an idea of how much space you get from my studio apt tour video. th-cam.com/video/9pMXO7HnUZQ/w-d-xo.html. Someone just moved out of an apartment just a few doors down from me and they plan to rent it for $2000, a studio apartment, exactly similar to mine. Rent is really going up around here.
It's possible but it's going to be either in a high crime area, or way out on the fringes of the LA area, like in Santa Clarita or the Inland Empire (one hour drive to central LA either way). And we're talking about a studio apartment.
Growing up in LA and now living in SF, I can tell you that both of these apartments are exceptions to the rule. The SF apartment is most likely rent controlled and it’s in an expensive part of town (Nob Hill, i think). The LA apartment is huge and unique for that price. I can almost guarantee that you won’t find an apartment for that price unless you live in the valley. Also, I personally wouldn’t want to live in Hollywood. Also, comparing these two apartments are apples and oranges. Rents are higher in SF but you also get paid more on average. I love living here and will probably stay in the Bay Area for the rest of my life. But a big part of that is because I’m still relatively close to LA so I can see my family often! Great videos though!
Theonlyonestanding lol how did you stay? I consider SF dead, nothing about it survived except the homelessness, which obviously got 5 times worse. Grew up in outer richmond and family moved in ‘05
I am just the opposite. I grew up in the Bay Area but wen to college in LA and then stayed in LA. I love LA and would never move back to Bay Area. To me, LA is so much more happening socially and ethnically diverse. It's the melting pot of the USA. And the people in LA love to party like nowhere else!
Fun fact: San Francisco has one of the highest number of homelessness due to its crazy ass rent rates Person pays $1415.00 for their part of the rent and says “that’s affordable!” Then one roommate leaves: Oh shit! Rent just jumped over $2100.00😳😳😳😳😳 #instantlyhomeless #instantlydisplaced
Right and that’s JUST the rent. Does it include utilities?...probably not. Then groceries, insurance and Lord don’t let anyone get sick and need medical care 😩
@@californiamade5608 Yeah I live in one of the counties of Silicon Valley. Higher rent than SF but no city life nor good public transportation system! Insane
A couple things to add as someone who lives in San Francisco. $1450 for a room in Nob Hill is on the cheaper side. For those who aren't familiar with the different districts, Nob Hill is one of the more popular spots as its close to downtown. Most rooms in Nob Hill are closer to 1600-1700. Also, as you mentioned, the converted living rooms are very popular and they are horrible. Don't ever live in one because they have very little sound privacy. San Francisco housing is expensive because the average salary in the city is 75k per year. If you are making 75k+ a year, then the rent prices of 1500+ still aren't ideal, but they aren't a problem at all. The city is absolutely worth living in if you do get a job where you're making at least 70k. Any less and you're better off elsewhere.
How is a city where people shit, pee, inject needles, smoke crack, burglarize stores and people be and all in broad day light and it all being legal besides the burglarizing an ideal city? That accompanied by the CRAZY living cost should drive anyone away!!!! My mortgage is 1560 dollars and I have a 5 bedroom 2800sqft HOME
Jose Garcia because the average salary is 75k a year, most in the whole world... for example, being a software engineer at SF will make you 45k your first year. then it raises up to 60k to 90k in 3 years. then over 100k soon after. because of tech companies and advertisements, more people have came to SF which made rent hella expensive but people with lower income homeless. it’s a domino effect
Scoot yeah and then rent for a 1 bedroom shack is $1500-1800 , and if I’m gonna go to school to be a software engineer I don’t want to live in a one bedroom shack... so it doesn’t matter if you make 75-80k when the cost of living is so high it’s as if you’re making 30k I live in Texas I don’t even have a bachelor degree and I make 120,000k a year but guess what I own a 4 bedroom 3 bath custom built 2400 sq ft home on 20 acres and don’t even pay 1800$ a month for it...
Jose Garcia no one gives a crap about your dream. u don’t have to go to school to learn cs. either way, the ideal amount to pay for rent is 30% so this video isn’t even ideal as smart individual will live here if only they make 6 figures within couple of years. if skilled and have proper experience, you could easily make over 200k or become start your own business and make millions. become a senior at google (best place to work) and you will make more than 285k. everyone is different due to their job and rent not expensive for you because you make more than the average person in texas
Scoot technology is the future and I wasn’t disagreeing with you. But thats the only thing you mentioned as a job in Cali though LOL. Why is it that so many people move to Texas then if Texas was such a shithole? You’re an idiot if you think California has more opportunity than Texas. You make your own opportunities, it just happens that Texas has MANY jobs that pay pretty decently and you don’t need to spend 200k on a degree to start making 60k and then years later make more money. Look at what’s going on now with corona virus, everyone is loosing their shit if things were to get bad real bad I don’t think a degree in software is gonna help you that’s what I’m referring to, living in a 1 bedroom 1800$ a month shack won’t help either. Living on a big property will help though. You can say whatever you want but I’ll keep enjoying my land, my guns, and my way of life free of California’s retarded liberal ways of restricting everyone’s life in that state and making gas 5 bucks a gallon among other things, LOL I paid 1.21$ just yesterday for gas
idk if you're talking about sf, but it's sad, the more suburban cities (sadly mine) surrounding SF kick out people without homes on the streets so they have to go to cities where they wont be kicked out. Instead of help, they really just try to cover up the problem.
People don't go from renting an apartment or condo to living on the street, that's a false narrative..there is a huge gap of missing information between that dynamic. Ie: (bad choices, alcoholism, drug addiction, crime, and mental illness and of course the ones who are shipped from other states. Very seldom do people go directly to the streets from renting an "expensive apartment" . What most sane people do is move out of State where it is more affordable and logical to live..
@@j.paulandrews261 That is at best a conspiracy theory. Especially recently, most new people experiencing homelessness in both LA and SF are people who have been priced out , lost employment, or otherwise came on hard financial times. Mental illness is the least prevalent cause of experiencing homelessness. "Shipping" people experiencing homelessness to CA, while does rarely happen, is largely a mythical, affluence-driven excuse to demonize people.
I moved from the greater SF area to the greater LA area a few months ago. Housing is definitely more affordable in LA. I've also noticed that groceries are slightly more affordable in LA. However, services i.e. restaurants, haircuts etc. are pretty comparable in my experience.
I’m from L.A. but also lived in San Francisco for a few years. Yes, S.F. prices are much higher, but if you shop around you can find much nicer, bigger and cheaper places to live (and without a roommate) than what is shown in this vid. But that Hollywood apartment is freakin’ awesome! Totally worth the rent price.
@The Shitstorm Starter Social liberalism is not the same as "the left" or socialism. Democrats are for the most part socially liberal capitalism supporters that just vary on the amount of welfare and services they support, most aligning as "centrists", being more generous than Republicans but less so than social democrats like Bernie Sanders. They still tend to let the rich and corporations get away with a lot, though Republicans are even worse. Socialists would be targeting the rich and corporations a lot harder, would try to get every place unionized in the least, and ultimately trying to make companies worker owned and run (or helping establish such companies). They would do everything they could to ensure everyone has affordable housing, including the jobless and underpaid (those who are currently homeless), including building many places themselves rather than relying on private developers who tend to just build luxury apartments and condos. As for the addicts and mentally ill who make up many of the homeless on the streets, that's always a tough challenge but I think socialists would be more open to reopening mental health facilities but with strict oversight so they don't turn out like they were known for in the past that led to both Republicans and Democrats deciding to put an end to them.
@Commerical Refrigeration and stuff Instead of complaining about the cost of rent and how big your cardboard box is do something about it. If you want to grow your own food and actually have a life then commute and live farther away where you have land and can breathe, if living just to pay someone elses mortgage is fine with you then enjoy the expense, for me I will keep my money and pay myself.
@Commerical Refrigeration and stuff I don't commit assumaside unlike you. the 99% as you call non locals are actually illegal immigrants who work for 8 bucks an hour and have 6 families living under one roof. You don't have to worry about folks coming from one WalMart towns because they don't like to live around folks who crap on side walks and live in tents outside your home. You spew racist bigot hate speech without understanding what the message actually said.
I learned a lot of TH-cam related information from her channel, and I'm a frequent viewer of her. She talks nice. The video about "How Much TH-cam Paid" was very informative and helpful. You are very straight forward, I really like that. Keep going..
MustacheN Beef Gotta get them to stop advertising for the city which is hard because they do it even when its not intentional. Think of all the influencer posts etc alone featuring Los Angeles not to mention the tv shows and movies.
If you're going to San Francisco, be sure to wear a flower in your hair." - 1967 "If you're going to San Francisco, be sure to have $3 million in your bank account. - 2019 (You might also wanna wear some heavy rubber boots. You'll need 'em for all the human poop you'll encounter).
You do homeless on the Streets. Why you think LA and San Francisco have so many homeless? No one can afford the rent. Their salaries don't match there rent and cost of living.
@@gumerzambrano Because a 5 hour drive puts you half way into another country in Europe. They don't have to drive nearly as far as us to get around, most of Europe is a lot less spread out than the United States.
@@stevie3871 On Google Maps it says it is a 196 mi journey down the M1 and 3 hours 37 minutes enroute. You practically live on a little island in American eyes. Driving from one state to another is a yawn for most.
This video is a bad representation of what an apartment living is like in SF and LA. rarely do you find these gems. Also showing things under rent control like you can still get in at that price.
Katherine is able to move in at that rental cost because she is moving in with an original tenant(s) who has lived there and is under rent control. Since Katherine is not the original occupant of the San Francisco apartment and one of her roommates is the original occupant, the landlord would have given Katherine a "6.14 notice" within 60 days after she moved in. As long as the original occupant remains in the apartment, the unit is under rent control with the allowable annual rent increase as outlined in sfrb.org/sites/default/files/Document/Form/571%20Allowable%20Annual%20Increases%2020-21%20EN.pdf However when the last original occupant vacates the unit, the landlord is entitled to apply an unlimited rent increase under the Costa-Hawkins Rental Housing Act. sfrb.org/topic-no-153-rent-increases-under-section-614-and-costa-hawkins If she decides to stay in the unit, she must sign a new lease and become the new original occupant at the newly increased rent.
@@RaymondHngRaymondHng thanks for the info I didn't know how rent control worked. However, I never liked SF apartments because they are old and I believe environmental conditions preclude them from changing them or building new apt.
@@evamaria644 It's how rent control works in San Francisco. It may be different in other cities. I don't know what you mean by "environmental conditions". It is a vague term. But most renovations can be made. It's the permit process that can be daunting. And not all apartments in San Francisco are old. Again, "old" is a vague term. Also, apartments buildings that were constructed after June 13, 1979 are not subject to rent control. sfrb.org/topic-no-017-overview-covered-and-exempt-units
Where in Michigan? In metro Detroit - Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills, West Bloomfield, Gross Pointe, Northville? 240, 000 gets you a garden shed. Ann Arbor? Gets you a 2-bed and a garden shed and 12K a year property taxes.
Moved to LA and only stayed for 4 months. Was just too expensive, even though I was making REALLY good money. Now I’m in Mississippi, and I’m paying $850 a month for a 4 bedroom 2 bath, fenced in yard, 2600 sqft brick house. Crazy how much cost of living can vary state by state / city by city. I could pay my rent/2 car notes/car insurance/utilities/groceries/phone and more for the cost of just rent in Cali lol.
As someone who's lived in southern California their whole life, I had a wtf moment when you said $800 dollars for 4 bedrooms. That is mind blowing to me omfg
@Janae Jones I actually live in Texas atm, and pricing for housing varies wildly down here, too. I just can't see myself living somewhere in the boonies. I love city life.
@@BE-bk1tb why did you go through the effort of making an incredibly irrelevant comment. I can just say it's his apartment, it doesn't mean his roommate doesn't live there. Next time, please be a little less imbecilic and think things through before commenting. If I had to refer to every place of residence by acknowledging every single resident, I'd be wasting my time. You can do that, if you'd like, but it won't make you look any less stupid.
as someone from colorado, i’d love to see you do a video comparing the rent prices in boulder to denver!! i’ve lived in both cities and have seen the rent prices and housing market blow up!
Theonlyonestanding a $1400 apartment now was only $700 5 years ago. I’ve lived in Colorado my whole life and it’s so sad how many Colorado natives have had to leave the state due to not being able to afford the increase in rent.
The LA apartment she showed here is in Hollywood, which is surprisingly not *that* expensive. The guys did get kind of lucky, but you really CAN get that price.
I think both parties found hella good deals, which is not unheard of. I have often found that some of the best quality for your buck apartments, don’t usually advertise online and rely on signs and word of mouth.
@@burnz5150 Yeah, I was going to say that the 3 bedroom in SF was an insanely good deal. Then the Hollywood apartment just blew my mind. I feel like people are going to really get the wrong impression with how far your money goes in each city.
Right.... Whole house already paid off and charging ridiculous rent. I met a lady who quit her job, turned her basement into a room and rented the rest of the house out for $1500/room. Mortgage already paid for AND she pays taxes on what the value was when she bought it vs what it’s worth now
No One Special check out Proposition 13, 90, 60 and 5 for the state of California. One one hand, if it weren’t for these propositions being passed, people would literally be taxed out of their homes. But on the other hand, people are holding a tight grip onto their homes and also charging current rental rates to turn a profit.
so what kind of video study was this when you interview people who were lucky with their purchases? wheres the average person spending $1500 in both respective cities?
San Francisco has character in the houses. And that’s what I love about it. There is also the Golden Gate Bridge and downtown is beautiful too. Although prices are high, you get good quality since these houses are old and have survived the big earthquakes. Like my house. San Francisco has so much history. Lastly, weather. Sometimes it’s cold, and sometimes rain and hot. I like that there is a mix of weather options instead of just One temperature you get used to. I ♥️ San Francisco
The San Francisco apartment was definitely a more realistic living situation based on the city. I’ve lived in both places and that LA apartment would definitely be an invisible needle in the haystack at that price. No wonder they lucked out the way they did! Going out and calling numbers on signs is how I’ve found all the good spot too!
Yeah, but its OKC, so there ya go.... We pay 3K a month in Eastern San Diego County for a 3K square foot 2 story 5 bed room house....but we bought in 2010 when the market was down.
The thing to note about the SF apartment is that it's in (S)Nob Hill which along with areas like Russian Hill, Pacific Heights and the Marina are higher generally.
I just moved to Baltimore from a small town where u paid $500/month for a 1 bedroom and I thought Baltimore was expensive but this video makes me feel better!
We lived in SF when we moved to the US around 2010 it was expensive so even though we have couple of stores we decided to buy a 3k square foot 2 story house an hour away from SF for $250k and now after 8 years our house is worth $550k. We commute every couple days but it’s worth it!
I'm planning to move outside of LA also. Do you have any recommendation where to look for decent apartments/sites to go look for them. I will be much appreciated.
Good video! I think the answer to "what more could you want" that keeps popping into my head is "no roommates". I did that in college and it is just not nearly as good as having a place of your own. I like the series though, so keep it up. For a mid-westerner, it's crazy to see what people are willing to pay to just borrow a place to sleep.
Jennifer Christine oh i know haha i went to school in norcal and I have friends that stayed to work there and they complain about sf prices all the time and the prices are insane for the space you get. I moved back to LA and I havent been able to find anything close to that space/price that she showed lmao
Don't quote me --- and Shelby, please correct me if I'm wrong --- but I believe that the L.A. apartment is one of the Palmilla Apartments at 1231 Las Palmas. Assuming that it is, I found a link BELOW. On that link BELOW, he reviews and ratings are a little mixed (but that may be because the bad reviews/ratings are from pre-renovation tenants: www.apartmentratings.com/ca/los-angeles/palmilla-apartments_323467605090038/?sort=1
It's not bad if you go to Vallejo, Fairfield, Vacaville or Sacramento. But it's painful to drive to San Francisco if you work there or want to visit the city's attractions.
@@slickawesome7807 i live right in the heart of silicon valley so not only is the rent ridiculously high but to get to sf it still takes like 30 mins-an hour w/ traffic so we cant win lolll
We live in the tri-valley and I commute into SF for work bc it’s the only place that pays high enough for cost of living out East. But it is absolutely ridiculous how expensive it is. We pay over $4k for a 3-bed apartment! And we need that space bc we have a kid. Our exact apartment would go for over $10k in the city
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That LA apartment is a one in a million score. Don’t expect that folks
that guy Aaron (thatsoaaron) did mention that it wasn't technically on the market and their timing was perfect, so he kind of hinted that you probably won't be able to get the same deal he got cuz he got lucky
Yup when I see people put these type of vids I'm just like ha! Okay I've lived in LA my whole life this is unrealistic. Lucky when u find places like this
Mister Tee same with the deal the SF girl got.
i was going to say the same this video is FRAUD 😂
@Fit Tall Gay Blond yea I see ppl.pay over 1000 for a roo. To share with like 2 or 3 other roommates.
The point to be made here is that you CAN'T Rent an Apartment in either City for $1500/mo. A 'Room for Rent' is NOT the same thing as an Apartment.
@@elizabethdavis7358 I've lived in Monterey, Eureka and Santa Barbara. In SB I found a $1600/mo Apt that was 182 sqft, Monterey (7+ years ago) it was $1100/mo for ~400 sqft but Eureka has good prices and right on the coast. Unfortunately Eureka isn't what you'd call a population center lol.
@@elizabethdavis7358 Not exactly rural (entire Bay is ~70K population) but it's hard to find work and when you do it's usually minimum wage and P/T. It's beautiful and the weather is amazing, IF you can tolerate the Criminals PG&E shutting off power to the entire County for days at a time.
@@bookcadenb4584 - On that note, local rentals of decent quality and relative safety in the Bay Area are still much higher than they should be. EX: a 450 sq. ft. rectangle of a pseudo-cottage with no storage ( except a small basement that floods in the winter ), low ceilings, tiny-nothing living room, decent bedroom, and half kitchen, in downtown Martinez ( high demand ) went for $1K months ago. Yes, it's not SF nor LA, but the landlords tried to be accomodating in charging "less". They could have rented it for $1400...more? They at least weren't fully greedy, but $800 is fair , IMHO. $600 is more like it.
VERY underrated comment
@@elizabethdavis7358 170 sqft.... That's disgusting!!!!! I'm good down here in Texas where my mortgage is less than $1500, and I have a inground pool.
That guys’ apartment is RARE don’t get your hopes up kids
Tati D completely agree. There’s also some people who pass on leases to get the best deal.
haha for reallllll
Not to mention... he's paying $1500 for a room. So, that 2 bedroom apartment is $3,000 a month and I'm sure utilities are not included in that figure. A fool and their money are soon parted.
forreal
Rob S she said it is 2650
As a black man and SF native, I'm thinking of moving myself to Africa.
Lamo. Yeah bro u should immediately do it😂😂😂
Sorry they have apts starting at 5000 dollars.
Don’t let the media fool you. If you are a killed worker. You can live like a king in 70% of Africa. Rwanda is probably the cleanest country on earth. They require people to clean up and do community service once a month tho.
@@ownSystem 🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿 still love you tho
@@emmanuelsamuels2470 can't say the same to u. 🖕🤣
It would be sooo interesting if you could do a study of someone’s salary and how much they should be spending it on housing/bills/groceries etc. and how much money they should have left over for leisure. There are articles on this but I feel like you can break it down nicely. Would also be really cool if you did apartments in cities that millennials are moving to more often or predicted cities that are growing.
Check out The Graham Stephan Show
Its generally 33% of your salary is spent on rent fyi
Dave Ramsey suggests 25% of net income be spent on housing. In places like the Midwest that’s easy to do but if you’re in LA that’s really hard.
That’s literally what Graham Stephen does
SAN DIEGO
They wanna keep raising rent but not raise salaries
This is why LA has 60,000 homeless people. mostly couldn't afford rent anymore,
Who is they?
Slavery
Miss Masonya Mann like wtf
Greg Spradlin lmaoo white people dont act brand new 😘
*has 700,000 dollars*
stockton: a mansion
my city: a literal shed
In Stockton, criminals follow you home and follow up with a home invasion robbery.
You forget Stockton is in America's Top 10 Most Dangerous Cities
Um I live in Georgia and my home is 500,000 and counts as a mansion.
Livermore or Brentwood would be better areas to live than Stockton lol
As someone who lives in Stockton trust me a shed would be safer than any “mansion” here which really are just basic 2 floor homes
That Hollywood apartment is NICE omg. I live in NYC and we could NEVER.
NYC is more expensive than both LA and San Fran, but not nearly as nice. Great pizza there though.
@@chriscolumbia9579 San Fran is quickly becoming the most expensive place to live in the U.S. now. But its because NYC is so much older, people have been living packed together there for such a long time where California has had huge migration recently.
@@BalletTapJazz SF is expensive, because that's where the highest paying jobs are and everyone wants to live in the best city in America. Has nothing to do with NYC.
@@chriscolumbia9579 las the best ur cappin
@@rudymontes6130 Uh...yeah... sure.. whatever.
Instantly LOVE that this series has the name: RENTING AMERICA!
thanks!!
Charles Smith Agreed. 😊👌🏼
I would be more worried about your complexion really girl cause dam, get that shit looked at pls. Also that straw like hair needs some attention as well, So much I could go into but anyway ya need some work so do us a favor pls because it's not working hun.
@@ShelbyChurch Please do PDX vs Denver! The cities get compared alot in price
This is not 1400 for an apartment it’s 1400 for a room in an apartment. 🙀
Same thing I was thinking
D Bent Yup thats Cali
truth
Title says what 1500 gets you.
Where I live you can spend $350 a month
Imagine paying 4K a month and not even having a dishwasher
Exactly...its disgusting
anthony diaz or use the machine designed to wash dishes and save yourself time and energy
@@spaceman30055 nah anthony is right it not that hard to wash a few dishes and dry them by hand
Spaceman TR you sill gotta rinse it before you put it in the dishwasher so if u touch it might as well wash it
Rae ok you guys can stop saying this because you’re acting as if there’s no such thing as using a lot of dishes to cook and eat a meal. People have guests over and it takes loads of dishes and pots to cook up full corse meals for people. Not to mention things like thanksgiving dinner. Stop acting as if dish washers aren’t useful and this goes for that genius above you too.
That’s why call it Full House. No one can live alone
Hahahahahaha this is funny.
Lmaoo
Houses in that area are estimated 8million
lmaoo facts
I was watching full house a few hours ago 😟
It's actually so sad how expensive rent is compared to our average income in the states
It's because wages have not stayed on par with inflation. Which leads to the homelessness crisis.
Poverty line in San Francisco is $90,000. A bunch of those people are barely making it.
So true! But that is expected with the real estate developers pushing into the poor areas and pushing the poor peeps out. It's crazy!
@@ZalinaW It's terrible!!
you should see the average salary in SF tho, sure it's expensive but the average income is $110,816.
Seems expensive but when you see how much they actually make....
I am from SF but I came to LA for grad school and I really thought I would love it here. There are pros and cons of living in both. One of the pros of LA is that you get to drive from place to place instead of using public transportation. The con is there is a lot of traffic. In SF you basically can't even really own a car...you could but it's honestly just a waste and your car would most likely get stolen/broken into. The thing I really don't like about LA is it is SO hard to meet people here. People are so immersed in their own bubble. People are also extremely superficial. It truly is "LaLaLand" because everyone has these unrealistic fantasy careers yet they try and flex anything they have. Even if you do meet people, they are never willing to go out of their way to meet with you because of the traffic/they are so obsessed with maintaining a certain "image". There is so much to do in LA but no one to do it with. Yes the rent is cheaper in the sense that you get more bang for your buck but it's so easy to get isolated in this huge city. I think SF has a culture of people that are a bit more open minded and willing to ACTUALLY meet up and develop their friendship circles. Maybe I am biased because I haven't found my people here yet.
Jessica Johnson totally feel the same way about SF 😇. Easy to meet cool people
No I’m from the Bay Area and felt the same way when I went down there for college. It’s different here. Biggest for me was cars. A lot of people do not have cars in the bay, not necessary, good public transportation.
I just moved to the Bay Area from SoCal and I think the same about the situation here lol I plan to go back to SoCal after a year because it just doesn’t feel home to me. But yes you might be right about it being this way because of not having found your people here.
Not sure about SF, but I (expat Canadian) lived in Silicon Valley for 9 years and didn’t find people all that friendly - not even our community friends, caught up in their busy lives. But my wife spent 10 years in LA (prior to me) and made lots of friends, though she’s very outgoing. That said, she did say a lot people tell her it’s hard to make friends in LA, though she as a filmmaker still tends to attract more down-to-earth people than flakes.
Jessica that could of been me on what you wrote, except I did have 2 friends during my entire time in Los Angeles (15 years). 1 still remains my friend, the other one were 've lost touch. Even if you think someone may be your friend in the end you find out it wasn't real
I’m from San Francisco and I definitely can attest that you get more for your money in LA. I was born and raised in San Fran and trust me it’s always been a very extremely expensive city.
Move to Lake Merritt, Oakland.
Nice place with great vibe and there's a lake for you to jog around every evening.
And the rent is probably around $1,500
@@norpriest521 that's also started getting expensive as more people leave SF. Though not sure how it'll look after the pandemic....
You aren't from San Francisco you liar. No one there calls it San Fran.
@@markpreston6930 K 😁
@@norpriest521 I’ve always loved that area.
$4700 per month and you don’t even get a dishwasher, welcome to San Francisco
Which is why so many people are homeless and they do have jobs just no place to live.
I'm about a hour north of SF got a house, 3 bedroom, 2 bath, 2 car garage, about 1100 square feet, my mortgage payment is less than what one of people are paying renting a room. I think it's insane paying these crazy right rent prices.
I really wouldn't want to live in either of these city's. SF has it's needles and poo all over the sidewalks. If I had to pick between the 2, it would be the LA location. I waited until this last housing market crashed and got my house at that time. That was around 6 years or so ago. I just can't see giving someone else a bunch or money to rent and have nothing.
I wonder how many kilos they have to move a month to pay that much.
@@kauigirl808 They could live where I do for vastly less money. Plenty of jobs available also.
We don't have many homeless people here. But we also do not a temperate climate. Take from this what you will.........
@Greg Gagne You can take that money almost practically anywhere else and you'd get much more house for your money. But they these people just NEED to live in San Francisco or LA
Neither of these apartments were representatives of the real markets in each city
yeehawtomahawk I second that.
I've seen worse looking apartments for $1k. There was one half bedroom, a bathroom that fit one person with the doorknob that would get stuck when it was closed. There wasn't really a kitchen...it was maybe 5 feet long and 4 feet wide. Barely enough room for a refrigerator. And the walls were thin AF
true..my Aunt lives is SF and she tells me otherwise. She owns two apartment that she rents out to students, specifically. Also, she just bought a house there for 1.1 m and it was literal trash. She had to tear the entire thing down and build a new house! what a deal..not!
What a fucking surprise.
these apartments are either pure luck or they knew people
if you dont know people to get deals in these cities, then its almost impossible to live there for that price.
Lived in SF for 3 years and couldn't justify the cost. It's ok to be expensive, but it's not ok when you already paid that much and what you get is unacceptable living conditions. I always say to my friends that if your quality of life is below a threshold, it doesn't matter how much you pay, you are buying misery.
I live an hour outside of SF it's worth the commute
@@shannonleeann5643 Yes I agree, between overpaying for bad living conditions and a long commute with much better living conditions, I definitely would also choose the latter. But I really hope there is a third choice. I wish that in the future, people either have (1) many more housing options (2) much better mobility like decent public transportation like in Europe or Asia, or new modes of cheap transportation without bad traffic, perhaps system of self driving cars, hyperloop or flying cars (3) more remote working opportunities
@@NierAutomata2B I don't see how robot cars will decrease congestion.All this pie in the sky stuff like ride "share" have actually vastly increased gridlock. Many cities have seen it adversely affect public transportation too.
@@christinerowlanddeburca4399 Yeah self-driving cars themselves won't magically reduce traffic. It's the economics and people's mindset that will play major roles, and in turn, influence future city planning. If owning a car is 10-100x times more expensive and also more trouble because of maintenance, parking etc., people will abandon privately owned cars and join the autonomous fleets. But I don't see that happening any time soon. Hopefully it will happen in our lifetime.
Ridesharing didn't create this level of shift in economics. Many people become drivers to earn money full time. The rides are still expensive in many cities and in low supply areas. People simply can't abandon car ownership for ridesharing in most cases.
My husband and I just moved from the Bay Area. We def like it in our new city and can actually afford a house! The stress just wasn't worth it and we couldn't have afforded kids in San Jose.
This video is painting a different picture of rent in San Francisco and the Bay Area. The house/apartment you have in the video is under rent control. Consider them lucky to even find rent that low. Normally rent would be around $7k for that place.
That's ridiculous. Omg 😭😭😭
That's sad!!
Yep - that house in SF is wayyyy below market price, especially for that neighborhood. They got a great deal. Shouldn't be used as a comparison
@@bennettbennettbennett I'm guessing no parking for that rental price.
This video should be taken down due to the fact that it paints a false picture. I hope this does not encourage people to move down to San Francisco and expect to find rent this low.
Honestly for what your friends LA apartment is, I think he's getting a pretty decent amount for his money. That's a fantastic apartment, like you said it's like it's own house. If I could afford it, I'd live there in a heartbeat. The San Fran apartment? I think it's also a pretty nice place, but no way in hell do I think it's worth that kind of money.
Sharing a single bathroom is a deal breaker for me. I don’t want to become intimate with my roommates bathroom habits and vice versa.
"You definitely get more for your money in LA" is a sentence I thought I'd never hear.
yea the bay area is fucking insane. my house is 1,450 dollars per square foot, which is crazy for tiny houses without AC or updated appliances or anything.
lol LA is cheap as hell. Come to NYC.
@@pcthanh85 I've heard they're about the same at this point (with most people needing a car in Los Angeles which adds a lot more than a MetroCard lol) but I'm excited to move there next summer! Don't get me wrong I like New York but I love the nature of LA with all it's areas and separate cities
Lol then you obviously don't know anything about San Fran. It's the most expensive city to live in the country period.
@@j2forew974 Having lived in both as well as SF, they are def not the same. NYC is the most expensive, pound for pound, due to the amount of space (or the lack thereof) and the quality of the buildings. Subway is not very reliable in NYC, and most people have to count Uber/cab in their monthly spendings. The houses/apartments are a lot older in NYC, with citations/code violations a common occurrence. Bay Area rent is super high as well, but there are houses you can rent, not just apartments like in NYC. Looking at realtor.com now, there are many listings around Bay Area for a Single Family Home for less than $1mn if you are to buy. This may exist in the outskirts of NYC, but definitely not somewhere you'd want to live in. LA is def the best bang for bucks out of the three, and downright cheap compared to the other two, no doubt. Having said that, if you're looking at mansions with 2 pools overlooking LA, then it's a different discussion...
All these people have roommates. No one is living by themselves.
sanakris In CA, you need roommates just to be able to afford rent. It’s an unfortunate reality :/
@@JUANxxTNAFAN It could either be the best thing or the worst thing in life
Not affordable to live alone. They will always live with someone. Roomies Foreveeeerr, or move away.
Unless you're a CEO, trust fund baby or high level tech worker, living alone is all but impossible in most of California.
digitalmarketer16.blogspot.com/2020/07/lead-generation.html
Elon Musk needs to unveil the Cyber Apartments and revolutionize housing.
What are cyber apartments??
@@chloemotsebo2075 It's like that thing in the Matrix where humans are the battery pods.
@@NickSiekierski Sounds like something Elon Husk would try to push on people. What a shill.
Renovated shipping container style living may be the future. Lift it on to a truck and find a new location as needed. In Vancouver, landlords rent garden tent space for $1000 according to an article I read. It's up to the feds and municipal governments to build more affordable housing, no matter where you live.
@@Aro2220 Musk is a FRAUD.
That LA place is like a unicorn. I've never seen that spacious of a place that price anywhere in Southern California.
san francisco is not a 5 hr drive from Los Angeles... more like 7 or 8 depending on traffic. (Correction.. its 7 or 8 if you go up the 101... but going up the 5 is the quickest)
Actually you can make it there in 5hrs, I lived in SF and now I live in LA and I've done it. (just depends on fast you drive and the time of day you head out) lol
i live 3-4 hours north of SF, and it’s a 7/8 hour drive to LA for me. so SF to LA is about 5 hrs
It's 5 if you avoid traffic and avoid getting a ticket
Otherwise, it's 6+
I see you caught yourself there. You can do it in 5ish on the five driving at night. Especially in the middle of the week.
oh my god NEVER take the 1 or the 101!! i'm sure in about 5 years when the 5 becomes a clusterfuck and we'll have no choice but 5 from la to sf always!
“Rooftop culture is honestly really big in SF.”
I really didn’t know it was possible to be pretentious about chilling on a roof, but here we are.
Alex Moyers !!!!!
It is from the perspective of an LA resident. In LA hanging out on the roof is not a thing. People hang out by the pool or on the beach. In San Francisco, pools are not common (because real estate is precious, it is a tiny city) and beaches are way too cold most of the time.
NYC also. Rooftop terraces are very desirable
I don’t understand how that is “pretentious”.
Y’all always trying to find everything wrong about San Francisco it’s funny.. someone from like Iowa could have said that and you wouldn’t have blinked an eye
Idk why but I love watching these house tours. I don't even live in the USA
Stamatia exactly
Who knows you might one day
@@littlesithinilifeinireland3637 i dont plan on it. I would prefer going to Canada tbh, USA seems dangerous to create a family in :)
@@stamat1a you're not wrong ...
And they think it's small, and it's fucking huge.
I’m 2 hours max from NYC, 2 hours from philly, in a little city and I pay $500 for a three bedroom half double house. This is insane
Lol
@@kingshadow6577 they have excellent public transportation and it’s cheaper.
I need to move to east coast then
No one have that much energy to drive 2 hours just for visit nyc
oh that's cool. What's the name of the city?
for 1000 dollars i my city you get an entire 3 bedroom house
mine too, they build these brand new luxury apartments in my area for $1500 a month everything is included...Pool,gym,utilities,cable..etc
@@Jdres123 what city do live in? Please don't say heaven.
$700 in Ohio
@RICKY < never been to ohio
Move me in
The moral of the story is live any where but these places.
Well said.
clutched I think you nailed it! And I'm a 3rd generation San Franciscan. LOL!!!
SF is overrun by tech companies
And don't live in cities with lack of employment opportunity like one of those poor states whose people fuck their cousins.
😂😂😂
I don't care how much I love my bff I'll never live with a roommate
I'd rather live in the tiniest apartment ever, but alone
AGREED NO PRIVACY AT ALL NIGHTMARE.
I know right!!!!!!
It's not an option if they want to live in that expensive area they have to.
ERIC EDMUND not at all
For SF 1 person renting be ready to fork out $2500-$4K a month
"Not a ton of counter space, but it works!"
No. I've lived with that much counter space and it doesn't work.
@@kingshadow6577 just get one of those kitchen islands that you can roll and fold.
"This is what $1500/month gets you in California"
Apartment costs $4500/month.
@The Shitstorm Starter what's wrong you ight cuz?
At one time I rented a Victorian home in Angelino Hgts, Echo Park for $1,000 a month. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. SAD!!
The Shitstorm Starter then why you watching a video of San Francisco and LA dumb ass
I was thinking the same thing 😭
@The Shitstorm Starter hey trumpanzee you ok?
I would love to a video of an apartment that is actually only $1.5k in LA not split between roommates
Lol
Brittany Albis Preach
I can tell you with certainty it's either a really nice studio, or a tiny one bedroom.
I'm in a rent controlled apartment for a a little bit lower price in Santa Monica. You can get an idea of how much space you get from my studio apt tour video. th-cam.com/video/9pMXO7HnUZQ/w-d-xo.html. Someone just moved out of an apartment just a few doors down from me and they plan to rent it for $2000, a studio apartment, exactly similar to mine. Rent is really going up around here.
It's possible but it's going to be either in a high crime area, or way out on the fringes of the LA area, like in Santa Clarita or the Inland Empire (one hour drive to central LA either way). And we're talking about a studio apartment.
Growing up in LA and now living in SF, I can tell you that both of these apartments are exceptions to the rule. The SF apartment is most likely rent controlled and it’s in an expensive part of town (Nob Hill, i think). The LA apartment is huge and unique for that price. I can almost guarantee that you won’t find an apartment for that price unless you live in the valley. Also, I personally wouldn’t want to live in Hollywood.
Also, comparing these two apartments are apples and oranges.
Rents are higher in SF but you also get paid more on average. I love living here and will probably stay in the Bay Area for the rest of my life. But a big part of that is because I’m still relatively close to LA so I can see my family often!
Great videos though!
Rylan Carpena ACCCCCURRATE!
Theonlyonestanding lol how did you stay? I consider SF dead, nothing about it survived except the homelessness, which obviously got 5 times worse. Grew up in outer richmond and family moved in ‘05
Theonlyonestanding 😂 Hollywood is rough. At least it was when I lived in LA.
Scotty Sorenson there’s nothing better than SF :)
I am just the opposite. I grew up in the Bay Area but wen to college in LA and then stayed in LA. I love LA and would never move back to Bay Area. To me, LA is so much more happening socially and ethnically diverse. It's the melting pot of the USA. And the people in LA love to party like nowhere else!
Everyone happy & gangsta until his lease renews...
Love this series! So cool to see how other people live.
Should have done one in swizterland!!
Shelby Church yeah!!
Damn, that second place is REALLY nice
Fun fact: San Francisco has one of the highest number of homelessness due to its crazy ass rent rates
Person pays $1415.00 for their part of the rent and says “that’s affordable!”
Then one roommate leaves:
Oh shit! Rent just jumped over $2100.00😳😳😳😳😳 #instantlyhomeless
#instantlydisplaced
Has one of the highest but it’s not the highest
Right and that’s JUST the rent. Does it include utilities?...probably not. Then groceries, insurance and Lord don’t let anyone get sick and need medical care 😩
@@californiamade5608 Yeah I live in one of the counties of Silicon Valley. Higher rent than SF but no city life nor good public transportation system! Insane
Orlando Nunez Google it. Type in the most expensive city in USA. San Francisco is the most expensive now...
Kat L. Actually San Francisco is still the highest.
A couple things to add as someone who lives in San Francisco. $1450 for a room in Nob Hill is on the cheaper side. For those who aren't familiar with the different districts, Nob Hill is one of the more popular spots as its close to downtown. Most rooms in Nob Hill are closer to 1600-1700. Also, as you mentioned, the converted living rooms are very popular and they are horrible. Don't ever live in one because they have very little sound privacy.
San Francisco housing is expensive because the average salary in the city is 75k per year. If you are making 75k+ a year, then the rent prices of 1500+ still aren't ideal, but they aren't a problem at all. The city is absolutely worth living in if you do get a job where you're making at least 70k. Any less and you're better off elsewhere.
How is a city where people shit, pee, inject needles, smoke crack, burglarize stores and people be and all in broad day light and it all being legal besides the burglarizing an ideal city? That accompanied by the CRAZY living cost should drive anyone away!!!! My mortgage is 1560 dollars and I have a 5 bedroom 2800sqft HOME
Jose Garcia because the average salary is 75k a year, most in the whole world... for example, being a software engineer at SF will make you 45k your first year. then it raises up to 60k to 90k in 3 years. then over 100k soon after. because of tech companies and advertisements, more people have came to SF which made rent hella expensive but people with lower income homeless. it’s a domino effect
Scoot yeah and then rent for a 1 bedroom shack is $1500-1800 , and if I’m gonna go to school to be a software engineer I don’t want to live in a one bedroom shack... so it doesn’t matter if you make 75-80k when the cost of living is so high it’s as if you’re making 30k I live in Texas I don’t even have a bachelor degree and I make 120,000k a year but guess what I own a 4 bedroom 3 bath custom built 2400 sq ft home on 20 acres and don’t even pay 1800$ a month for it...
Jose Garcia no one gives a crap about your dream. u don’t have to go to school to learn cs. either way, the ideal amount to pay for rent is 30% so this video isn’t even ideal as smart individual will live here if only they make 6 figures within couple of years. if skilled and have proper experience, you could easily make over 200k or become start your own business and make millions. become a senior at google (best place to work) and you will make more than 285k. everyone is different due to their job and rent not expensive for you because you make more than the average person in texas
Scoot technology is the future and I wasn’t disagreeing with you. But thats the only thing you mentioned as a job in Cali though LOL. Why is it that so many people move to Texas then if Texas was such a shithole? You’re an idiot if you think California has more opportunity than Texas. You make your own opportunities, it just happens that Texas has MANY jobs that pay pretty decently and you don’t need to spend 200k on a degree to start making 60k and then years later make more money. Look at what’s going on now with corona virus, everyone is loosing their shit if things were to get bad real bad I don’t think a degree in software is gonna help you that’s what I’m referring to, living in a 1 bedroom 1800$ a month shack won’t help either. Living on a big property will help though. You can say whatever you want but I’ll keep enjoying my land, my guns, and my way of life free of California’s retarded liberal ways of restricting everyone’s life in that state and making gas 5 bucks a gallon among other things, LOL I paid 1.21$ just yesterday for gas
the la apartment was a steal like wow
Definitely not real. Don't expect to ACTUALLY get a deal like that in sf or la
No wonder there are so many homeless people there.
Carol Benson nah. Homeless people find richer areas ad larger areas to possibly get more money
idk if you're talking about sf, but it's sad, the more suburban cities (sadly mine) surrounding SF kick out people without homes on the streets so they have to go to cities where they wont be kicked out. Instead of help, they really just try to cover up the problem.
Actually its because states ship their homeless population to California. Look it up
People don't go from renting an apartment or condo to living on the street, that's a false narrative..there is a huge gap of missing information between that dynamic. Ie: (bad choices, alcoholism, drug addiction, crime, and mental illness and of course the ones who are shipped from other states. Very seldom do people go directly to the streets from renting an "expensive apartment" . What most sane people do is move out of State where it is more affordable and logical to live..
@@j.paulandrews261 That is at best a conspiracy theory. Especially recently, most new people experiencing homelessness in both LA and SF are people who have been priced out , lost employment, or otherwise came on hard financial times. Mental illness is the least prevalent cause of experiencing homelessness. "Shipping" people experiencing homelessness to CA, while does rarely happen, is largely a mythical, affluence-driven excuse to demonize people.
I moved from the greater SF area to the greater LA area a few months ago. Housing is definitely more affordable in LA. I've also noticed that groceries are slightly more affordable in LA. However, services i.e. restaurants, haircuts etc. are pretty comparable in my experience.
I’m from L.A. but also lived in San Francisco for a few years. Yes, S.F. prices are much higher, but if you shop around you can find much nicer, bigger and cheaper places to live (and without a roommate) than what is shown in this vid.
But that Hollywood apartment is freakin’ awesome! Totally worth the rent price.
I miss my city, to bad silicon valley took over San Francisco and the governor looks the other way. 1500 for a bedroom these days. Disgusting.
The Shitstorm Starter Lefties? No dude, this is neo-liberal policies at work. Actual lefties are against this shit
@The Shitstorm Starter Social liberalism is not the same as "the left" or socialism. Democrats are for the most part socially liberal capitalism supporters that just vary on the amount of welfare and services they support, most aligning as "centrists", being more generous than Republicans but less so than social democrats like Bernie Sanders. They still tend to let the rich and corporations get away with a lot, though Republicans are even worse. Socialists would be targeting the rich and corporations a lot harder, would try to get every place unionized in the least, and ultimately trying to make companies worker owned and run (or helping establish such companies). They would do everything they could to ensure everyone has affordable housing, including the jobless and underpaid (those who are currently homeless), including building many places themselves rather than relying on private developers who tend to just build luxury apartments and condos. As for the addicts and mentally ill who make up many of the homeless on the streets, that's always a tough challenge but I think socialists would be more open to reopening mental health facilities but with strict oversight so they don't turn out like they were known for in the past that led to both Republicans and Democrats deciding to put an end to them.
This seems to only reflect...a certain demographic.
100%.
Yeah exactly, the Asian and Latino side of LA is a LOT cheaper but white people don't like living there so they prefer to pay fortunes...
well San Francisco is only 4% black. it's like 75% white and asian and the rest is rich Hispanics.
Not Sure there are more Hispanics than you think
@@notsure6187 Uh no its like 50% chinese 50% flip
you should do RENTING AMERICA- Dallas-Houston-Austin-San Antonio
More like RENTING TEXAS
Dallas is nice a f
Theonlyonestanding yeah I know cause I live in Dallas.
ANGELO I would love to see this.Hope she does it
No not Dallas we already have a housing crisis. It’s the second place millennials move to besides LA and you KNOW rent here is ungodly in the city.
The San Francisco apartment looks like the perfect place to have Christmas in. It looks so cozy:)
Do Seattle vs Austin (why? the two fastest growing cities in America today)
$1,500 in SF is like, Sleeping on a dog bed not even a closet or a sofa lmaoooo
that is the true, I live here in Sf and I paid 2000 for a room
A dog bed alone is $1,500 in San Francisco
Yea but your splitting the cost with your roomates
Fiona Marcotte my classmate lived in SF and paid $2500 for a room in a 3br house near campus
in total their rent was about $7500 a month
I think I remember seeing a Craigslist ad for a crawlspace for $1000/mo.
Great place to live if you’re rich. Horrible for everyone else.
Quit paying rent, live in your cars, vans etc. find ways to self survive without paying high dollars to other people.
@Commerical Refrigeration and stuff Instead of complaining about the cost of rent and how big your cardboard box is do something about it. If you want to grow your own food and actually have a life then commute and live farther away where you have land and can breathe, if living just to pay someone elses mortgage is fine with you then enjoy the expense, for me I will keep my money and pay myself.
@Commerical Refrigeration and stuff I don't commit assumaside unlike you. the 99% as you call non locals are actually illegal immigrants who work for 8 bucks an hour and have 6 families living under one roof. You don't have to worry about folks coming from one WalMart towns because they don't like to live around folks who crap on side walks and live in tents outside your home. You spew racist bigot hate speech without understanding what the message actually said.
@@harleydude-xo8pu you just committed assumaside my dude.
@@NathanJohnson815 okay moron, I stated facts therefore I did not commit assumaside.
The LA appartment seems very lovely and has a lot of pro’s the hottub was kinda unexpected yes! ❤The SF appartement does look very nice as well.
I learned a lot of TH-cam related information from her channel, and I'm a frequent viewer of her. She talks nice. The video about "How Much TH-cam Paid" was very informative and helpful. You are very straight forward, I really like that. Keep going..
I love this series, and personally I like LA better because it feels less cluttered
I love watching these videos. As someone who has always lived alone, I’d be curious to see some 1 bedroom or studio apartments.
the question is: why was she charging an avocado?
It's the latest tech out of Silicon Valley. Guac Pod. It's voice activated by the prompt, "Ok, Guac."
@@mdude625 omg the coolest thing I've ever heard
@@lucasduartedossantos4031 lmao they’re AirPods bro. Its just a rubber case.
please stop moving to LA, we full.
MustacheN Beef same with SF
MustacheN Beef on g
MustacheN Beef Gotta get them to stop advertising for the city which is hard because they do it even when its not intentional. Think of all the influencer posts etc alone featuring Los Angeles not to mention the tv shows and movies.
No fair. You at least gotta take back the ones that got loose and migrated to Oregon. We dont want them here either.
How about people from la stop ruining Austin texas
If you're going to San Francisco, be sure to wear a flower in your hair."
- 1967
"If you're going to San Francisco, be sure to have $3 million in your bank account.
- 2019
(You might also wanna wear some heavy rubber boots. You'll need 'em for all the human poop you'll encounter).
You’ve no idea how many times I’ve heard people saying about how bad the human poo situation is in SF.
I have a feeling tourists are going to SF just to crap on a sidewalk (in front of Feinstein or Pelosi's house). It's on my bucket list.
@@jackwertz8301 😂😂😂😂😂
When I was 8 I saw a homeless woman pull down her pants and shit on the road in front of Starbucks as we walked out in SF
Gone are the days of the Love Crowd.
Would like to see this without a roommie situation, as you really don't get the idea of what $1500 gets you.
You do homeless on the Streets. Why you think LA and San Francisco have so many homeless? No one can afford the rent. Their salaries don't match there rent and cost of living.
Dan W just move 20 min inward
If you want someplace in a California city without a roommate or two, $1500 per month will get you a shack that's falling apart if you're lucky!
Fact is who really lives alone anymore? Even the local billionaire has his servants
@@Masta6801 it doesnt get you a whole apartment. That's basically what they're saying.
Moral of the story: Visit California don’t actually live there😂
along with any major cities
audoir depends, major cities in the south and Midwest are pretty nice and affordable
@@AJ-lh4fp its mostly coast majory cities.
audoir it’s mostly the New York area and california
@@AJ-lh4fp affordable relative to these places because the cost of living is so much better, but still not cheap given that cost of living, too.
Anyone else from Europe hearing "Only a 5 hour drive" and having a ❤️attack? 😂😂😂
@@gumerzambrano Because a 5 hour drive puts you half way into another country in Europe. They don't have to drive nearly as far as us to get around, most of Europe is a lot less spread out than the United States.
More like 6 hours...Or 12 hours to and going back to LA 😭😭 Shit, if it was 3 hours I'd be going back every weekend
It is a 8 hour drive from Las Vegas to Reno. Both are in Nevada.
It’s mad how a 5 hour drive for me is Leeds to Central London 😂
@@stevie3871 On Google Maps it says it is a 196 mi journey down the M1 and 3 hours 37 minutes enroute. You practically live on a little island in American eyes. Driving from one state to another is a yawn for most.
This video is a bad representation of what an apartment living is like in SF and LA. rarely do you find these gems. Also showing things under rent control like you can still get in at that price.
There's currently a 2 bd 1 ba 650 sq ft apartment on Sacramento Street in San Francisco near the three women for $3,995/month.
I have lived in both areas this is what it is like especially after google, facebook, apple exploded on the scene.
Katherine is able to move in at that rental cost because she is moving in with an original tenant(s) who has lived there and is under rent control. Since Katherine is not the original occupant of the San Francisco apartment and one of her roommates is the original occupant, the landlord would have given Katherine a "6.14 notice" within 60 days after she moved in. As long as the original occupant remains in the apartment, the unit is under rent control with the allowable annual rent increase as outlined in sfrb.org/sites/default/files/Document/Form/571%20Allowable%20Annual%20Increases%2020-21%20EN.pdf However when the last original occupant vacates the unit, the landlord is entitled to apply an unlimited rent increase under the Costa-Hawkins Rental Housing Act. sfrb.org/topic-no-153-rent-increases-under-section-614-and-costa-hawkins If she decides to stay in the unit, she must sign a new lease and become the new original occupant at the newly increased rent.
@@RaymondHngRaymondHng thanks for the info I didn't know how rent control worked. However, I never liked SF apartments because they are old and I believe environmental conditions preclude them from changing them or building new apt.
@@evamaria644 It's how rent control works in San Francisco. It may be different in other cities. I don't know what you mean by "environmental conditions". It is a vague term. But most renovations can be made. It's the permit process that can be daunting. And not all apartments in San Francisco are old. Again, "old" is a vague term. Also, apartments buildings that were constructed after June 13, 1979 are not subject to rent control. sfrb.org/topic-no-017-overview-covered-and-exempt-units
Michigan: 240,000 dollars-
Updated, 5 bedroom 3 baths.
LA: 240,000 dollars: **a shoe box*
Home Depot sells garden sheds now for 2-3 grand. I asked the guy why so high, he said California pricing, 'they use them as housing there".
Great get all hot chicks to move to Michigan. Then We can all get to live cheap.
SF: 240k: *A matchbox
Where in Michigan? In metro Detroit - Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills, West Bloomfield, Gross Pointe, Northville? 240, 000 gets you a garden shed. Ann Arbor? Gets you a 2-bed and a garden shed and 12K a year property taxes.
BlancheDevereaux definetley not Detroit- like burton or Grand blanc
Moved to LA and only stayed for 4 months. Was just too expensive, even though I was making REALLY good money.
Now I’m in Mississippi, and I’m paying $850 a month for a 4 bedroom 2 bath, fenced in yard, 2600 sqft brick house.
Crazy how much cost of living can vary state by state / city by city.
I could pay my rent/2 car notes/car insurance/utilities/groceries/phone and more for the cost of just rent in Cali lol.
You have to live in Mississippi though :/
As someone who's lived in southern California their whole life, I had a wtf moment when you said $800 dollars for 4 bedrooms. That is mind blowing to me omfg
@Janae Jones I actually live in Texas atm, and pricing for housing varies wildly down here, too. I just can't see myself living somewhere in the boonies. I love city life.
Hahahahaha what a downgrade. U live In Mississippi now?!. How do u like it. It’s literally one of the worst states it ranks last in everything.
Malik Garland hahahahaha Ik that’s what I said. It should be depressing down there.
$1500 a month in Memphis gets you a nice house or a mini penthouse apartment downtown on Beale street with a view of the city 🌃
Lol but no one wants to live in Memphis
hopefully it's in a neighborhood that doesn't have 3 shootings every day.
You also make a lot less money in Memphis. And... you have to live in Memphis.
As a memphian this is true however it’s still Memphis soooooo yeeaaaaahhhh lol
Lol Memphis?
Aaron's apartment is honestly such a dream place to move in to
Erin Christin yes 😢
Erin Christin You mean Aaron and his roommate.
@@BE-bk1tb why did you go through the effort of making an incredibly irrelevant comment. I can just say it's his apartment, it doesn't mean his roommate doesn't live there. Next time, please be a little less imbecilic and think things through before commenting. If I had to refer to every place of residence by acknowledging every single resident, I'd be wasting my time. You can do that, if you'd like, but it won't make you look any less stupid.
this video made me a boomer...imagine wasting $4,000 on rent in a 700 sq ft living space.....couldn't be me
This is wild. At 1,500$ you’ll be able to rent you a whole Victorian house in my city .....
Sandy shores
*when sharing with 2 or more people. and Pittsburgh actually.
@@Wonderousfaye Wait until the investors show up. They will buy up all the property in mass. The rents will double and triple in a year or two.
as someone from colorado, i’d love to see you do a video comparing the rent prices in boulder to denver!! i’ve lived in both cities and have seen the rent prices and housing market blow up!
@@dc3174 I too, live in Colorado, I have lived in Steamboat Springs and Grand Junction, and can confirm how awful the economy/housing market is.
Theonlyonestanding a $1400 apartment now was only $700 5 years ago. I’ve lived in Colorado my whole life and it’s so sad how many Colorado natives have had to leave the state due to not being able to afford the increase in rent.
$1,500 a month! That's a mortgage payment for a 3 bed, 2 bath house in a nice Arizona city.
The girl saying “roof top culture” actually made me wanna die
hipsters smh
You saying "made me wanna die" makes me want to die as well. ...
malcorub noice
@@amandabreana Amanda... you're alright LOL
malcorub Lol
Mannnnn they really did get lucky w/ that space in Hollywood holy shit.
Sounds like the LA apartment pricing wasn't representative of the true market. Am I right?
The LA apartment she showed here is in Hollywood, which is surprisingly not *that* expensive. The guys did get kind of lucky, but you really CAN get that price.
yes maybe the owner has a crush on the guy cause damn that is a DEAL
I think both parties found hella good deals, which is not unheard of. I have often found that some of the best quality for your buck apartments, don’t usually advertise online and rely on signs and word of mouth.
I’m super familiar w the 2nd building. Def details left out as to why the rent is that low. not at all normal. Lucky boi 🙃
@@burnz5150 Yeah, I was going to say that the 3 bedroom in SF was an insanely good deal. Then the Hollywood apartment just blew my mind. I feel like people are going to really get the wrong impression with how far your money goes in each city.
Guarantee the owner of that apartment is smart and living the high life on their dime outside of SF.
Right.... Whole house already paid off and charging ridiculous rent. I met a lady who quit her job, turned her basement into a room and rented the rest of the house out for $1500/room. Mortgage already paid for AND she pays taxes on what the value was when she bought it vs what it’s worth now
@NSUScooter EXPLAIN YOURSELF!!!
@The Shitstorm Starter That's how corrupt leftist government works.
No One Special check out Proposition 13, 90, 60 and 5 for the state of California.
One one hand, if it weren’t for these propositions being passed, people would literally be taxed out of their homes. But on the other hand, people are holding a tight grip onto their homes and also charging current rental rates to turn a profit.
@@NSUScooter Thanks for that piece of info.
bruh there is NO way u can get that nice of LA apartment with that rent price 😭god legit looked out for him and his roommate frfr
1,500 in south Texas gets you a big luxurious apartment or big nice house with a big yard.
No is trying to live in Texas
Max Contreras you’re actually wrong. A lot of people are moving in Texas. Make sure to be well informed before commenting
people that can't hack in cities move to texas
But there is very little to do there.
Max Contreras lots of people have move to Texas over the few years
so what kind of video study was this when you interview people who were lucky with their purchases? wheres the average person spending $1500 in both respective cities?
They're sharing a 1-bedroom with 2 people in SF, 1 person in LA
Yup, these are people who know people.
San Francisco has character in the houses. And that’s what I love about it. There is also the Golden Gate Bridge and downtown is beautiful too. Although prices are high, you get good quality since these houses are old and have survived the big earthquakes. Like my house. San Francisco has so much history. Lastly, weather. Sometimes it’s cold, and sometimes rain and hot. I like that there is a mix of weather options instead of just One temperature you get used to.
I ♥️ San Francisco
Just me over here in germany stopping the video to convert the prices in euros and the sq feet in sq meters. Im freaking shoook 😳
Die verdienen aber durchschnittlich auch doppelt oder mehr wie wir.
The San Francisco apartment was definitely a more realistic living situation based on the city. I’ve lived in both places and that LA apartment would definitely be an invisible needle in the haystack at that price. No wonder they lucked out the way they did!
Going out and calling numbers on signs is how I’ve found all the good spot too!
one thing you should have pointed out was parking horrible in sf
$3,000+ a MONTH??! Thats a mansion house payment in Oklahoma City! 😂
Yeah, but its OKC, so there ya go.... We pay 3K a month in Eastern San Diego County for a 3K square foot 2 story 5 bed room house....but we bought in 2010 when the market was down.
It’s actually a lot better you get away from all the fruit cakes in LA and you probably get some land to let the dogs out on
@@krinklemcwrinkle4741 There's fruit cakes everywhere.. You just need to open your eyes.
The thing to note about the SF apartment is that it's in (S)Nob Hill which along with areas like Russian Hill, Pacific Heights and the Marina are higher generally.
That office loft was awesome, worth needing to go downstairs for the bathroom
I love these videos. You compare LA to other cities like SD, Chicago. Etc. please
An appartement like the first one is around 700$ a month where I live
what State are you in?
Like 400-500 in mine HOUSTON
I just moved to Baltimore from a small town where u paid $500/month for a 1 bedroom and I thought Baltimore was expensive but this video makes me feel better!
Lol, 500$ is so cheap and a great price ....My little brother could live there if he wanted to.
Get a better job
Omg, I love your videos so much, this was such an amazing video! I love the Hollywood apartment the best! But both are amazing!
We lived in SF when we moved to the US around 2010 it was expensive so even though we have couple of stores we decided to buy a 3k square foot 2 story house an hour away from SF for $250k and now after 8 years our house is worth $550k. We commute every couple days but it’s worth it!
I'm currently renovating my new place and I'm so glad I am just outside of LA or I wouldn't have all this space! Haha
I'm planning to move outside of LA also. Do you have any recommendation where to look for decent apartments/sites to go look for them. I will be much appreciated.
Good video! I think the answer to "what more could you want" that keeps popping into my head is "no roommates". I did that in college and it is just not nearly as good as having a place of your own. I like the series though, so keep it up. For a mid-westerner, it's crazy to see what people are willing to pay to just borrow a place to sleep.
Having lived in San Francisco, this is 110%accurate.
Prices for renting a home are to ridiculous. Not in San Francisco anymore
lol as a new yorker, these places are MASSIVE
Depends madison
Seeing comments like this really turn me off from moving to NYC
dude that LA spot is a miracle how tf do you find that kind of space in weho for that price?? thats insane
César Alvaro both of these apartments are RARE finds
Jennifer Christine oh i know haha i went to school in norcal and I have friends that stayed to work there and they complain about sf prices all the time and the prices are insane for the space you get. I moved back to LA and I havent been able to find anything close to that space/price that she showed lmao
That's not Weho, it's Hollywood. Even better.
Charles Mendias lmao hollywood is a lot nastier than weho
@@PapiXPGaming weho nasty smell of urine on streets yuck.
Great place. You ladies are creative and Real. You provided great insight. Great Job.
Keep up the good work.
i lose my mind when i see those prices. That's like, twice as much as the minimum wage here in Portugal. Only for rent, jesus
3 times as much as the minimum wage in France.
Anthony Bush Portugal is a country.
@@Indigoc33 lmao haha
@Anthony BushLmaooo
1. Portugal is not a city
2. the least expensive cities in Europe are DEFINITELY not in Portugal
@@CFabio6 Balkans are cheaper
Title should be more like, "what privileged folks get when they know people."
Why so salty and jealous ?
Nico Reus well this video isn’t really that truthful I think is why he said that
He said it was timing and he got lucky why is that hard to believe?
Lmao!
@@uncle978 They probably do 'favors' for the landlord.
I’d love to know where that loft is located! I want to rent one! I hope they have 1 bedrooms.
Don't quote me --- and Shelby, please correct me if I'm wrong --- but I believe that the L.A. apartment is one of the Palmilla Apartments at 1231 Las Palmas. Assuming that it is, I found a link BELOW. On that link BELOW, he reviews and ratings are a little mixed (but that may be because the bad reviews/ratings are from pre-renovation tenants:
www.apartmentratings.com/ca/los-angeles/palmilla-apartments_323467605090038/?sort=1
Bay Area: $1200 stimiulus half of rent
East Coast: $1200 1 - 3 Months rent paid
Not true depending on where on the east coast
I live in DC and $1200 would cover 1 month's rent for my basement studio apartment and less than 1/2 month's rent for a luxury 1 bedroom.
i live in sf bay area, can confirm how RIDICULOUS IT IS
It's not bad if you go to Vallejo, Fairfield, Vacaville or Sacramento. But it's painful to drive to San Francisco if you work there or want to visit the city's attractions.
@@slickawesome7807 i live right in the heart of silicon valley so not only is the rent ridiculously high but to get to sf it still takes like 30 mins-an hour w/ traffic so we cant win lolll
I live in SF and am under rent control thank god.
silicon valley gang
We live in the tri-valley and I commute into SF for work bc it’s the only place that pays high enough for cost of living out East. But it is absolutely ridiculous how expensive it is. We pay over $4k for a 3-bed apartment! And we need that space bc we have a kid. Our exact apartment would go for over $10k in the city