Why Tim Hortons Struggles In The United States
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- Tim Hortons is Canada's one-stop shop for coffee, breakfast, lunch and donuts, but now, the company needs to expand elsewhere. The U.S. has long been a target market, but they've struggling in America for decades. Watch this video to find out why this Canadian icon can't win over its southern neighbors and beat out brands like McDonald's, Taco Bell, and Dunkin' Donuts in the breakfast wars.
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Why Tim Hortons Struggles In The United States
Too much competition in the US and people are not willing to change their habits and try something else... there, saved you 7 minutes.
thanks
Thanks boss
Way to be inspired by my comment on Buttigieg😆
don't forget residents in non-hockey cities and areas saying 'Tim Who?'
i just like hearing the explanatory, soft yet professional voice
I went to Tim hortons in Madrid Spain, and everyone in there was Canadian tourists
LittleMouse oh man that’s awesome! My friend is currently in Spain, I will let him know to visit that Tim Hortons
In Málaga (Southern Spain) there must be 3 o 4 Starbuck's. 3,5 or 4 euros for a white coffee 'cause your name is written on the carton? These new Roman-Americans must be fool...
😂
LittleMouse a Canadian women sh!t in the middle of the floor of a Tim Hortons in Canada and threw it at employees because the service was so bad. Tim Hortons are horrible at best
Fine Supplements I hope she didn’t have the Timmies Runs. That would have been messy.
As a Canadian, I have found that the quality of their service and products to have been in decline for years.
I live in a state next to Canada and this is the first time i heard of Tim Hortons. I had no idea what they sold.
It's actually sad how terrible it is now
It's always been bad. US 🍩 s are better.
Their coffee takes like water !!! So trash and that's why it's so cheap
their coffee is def ass, but ice capps are still flames
I haven’t seen a single Tim Horton’s commercial in the US so maybe thats part of the reason why.
That's what I was thinking. Most fast food joints that do well advertise the heck out of their stores. Since so many places sell coffee and donuts, you need to make people thinking about your establishment nonstop.
I’ve only saw a Tim Hortons add about 5 times in my life and I live in Canada
Living in Maine, I see a lot.
Tim Horton's started going down when it was sold to an American company.
I live in meteo Detroit and I see about one every week and i dont watch tv that much
They should try opening stores in small towns in the USA that doesn’t have Starbucks.
Exactly, you got that right, but it seems stores only open in places where there is already a glut of similar stores. And then they wonder why they can't do well? most franchises will not open in towns under 3,000. And there are tens of thousand of towns that such a store would do just fine in, but most corporations never deal in reality, and will continue to flood markets and do poor business it seems.
In the buffalo ny area, Tim Horton’s is WAY more popular then dunkin
I think every town has at least one Starbucks or if not there is one on the interstate inside the Walmart super center just outside town. I swear they put something in their coffee to make people believe it is the best and only choice. Since starting to buy it directly from the store I have been unable to really enjoy other coffees without making it was strong and adding more creamer and sugar.
heyyyitscayla fr I was like how? Everyone here gets Tim’s
Those are folgers places. Those people don't have spare cash to waste on buying coffee at a coffee shop, they'd make some sort of instant coffee at home
They should be serving Tim Hortons coffee in U.S. Burger Kings in order to get brand recognition.
Burger King coffee is much better
@@realamazingworld6756 you never had real coffee if u think that lol
@@fashionlife5348 Tim Horton's coffee is terrible. BK may be better.
@@fashionlife5348 you never had tim caffee is u think that, it realy bad
@@AceQc i was refering to Burger King Coffee i really never seen a Tim Hortons and im from Florida
I will tell you this, in Buffalo NY Tim Hortons is our major coffee chain. Tim’s forced Dunkin out of the region
Nathan G.C you’re definitely right I don’t even know my closest DD and I remember one closed here (buffalo area) maybe 1-2 years ago (I think it was in Cheektowaga and now it’s a Popeye’s)
True. When my friends from downstate at UB had never heard of Tim Hortons I was shocked. I've never even been to a Dunkin Donuts in my life.
You really be to be close to the border
@@robertetzenhouser I'm just down the road from one TIm Horton location, and about a mile from two others around the corner(one of them's a mini-Tim Horton inside of a supermarket). We had a Dunkin Donuts, but it closed and is now a cell-phone shop.
At my work, we have a Tim Horton's on-site, but there's a Dunkin Donuts on the other end of the roadway; apparently(whether because of my work or because of UB), a lot of folks from the NY/NJ/Philly area make the Buffalo area their home.
Nathan G.C Yes the border is like a 10 minute drive
Why doesn’t Burger King just include Tim Hortons in their Restaurants just like McDonalds McCafe? That way Tim would gain access to a very benefitial starting point.
Max Schuck actually a wicked idea bever thought of that
Honestly this is a ingenious and brilliant idea
Awesome I’m going to email Tim Horton ceo
When Wendy’s was owned by them, that what they did. There was Tim Hortons and Wendy’s stores together. I know there is one in Grand Island, Ny.
who goes to burger king for coffee though
Start small. Go to malls and Colleges, Airports. Thats what Chick Fil a did. Now look at them.
1978 32 Its Only Common sense
Service areas too along I-90 Boston Massachusetts to Chicago Illinois
Malls, colleges, and airports? I would not say that is starting small. In fact, it's just the opposite. Amongst the rental prices for retail spaces, I would imagine that malls, colleges, and airports are amongst the highest in rental prices.
malls? what decade is this? If you would open your stores in a mall, why not open stores drive-ins? or sock-hops? or perhaps mausoleums
Malls are dead, Tim Hortons would die a slow painful death if they were placed in a food court.
I live in Canada and grew up with Tim Hortons. Most Canadians will agree that the overall quality has suffered greatly in the last decade; and even more since Restaurant brands bought them. They are living on good will, and that wont last forever. This also explains why they struggle so much in the US. They simply don't have those decades of goodwill built up like they do here in Canada. There's no nostalgia factor for locations outside of Canada...unless it's in a location with a lot of Canadians. They used to bake doughnuts in-house, but now have everything shipped in...they changed their coffee blend a few years back, and not for the better. They used to be really good at coffee & doughnuts, and then the menu exploded with a bunch of low quality sandwiches, potato wedges, etc, and the company lost focus. Now it's just "meh" coffee and "meh" food.
I prefer McDonalds in basically every way
That’s the Restaurant Brands effect. Did the same thing with Burger King and Kraft. Anything to cut costs. Also RBI isn’t American or Canadian-owned. They don’t care about preserving the nationalistic feel of the brands
Good point. I've seen many instances where a company has suffered after being bought or "merging".
Sounds like what I would say about Dunkin Donuts these days too. Just meh all around.
Yes, potato wedges are gross. The chicken strips are super greasy. I used to get the chicken salad on a croissant with Swiss cheese, not a menu item anymore. Oh well, at least Ice Caps are good.
As a truck driver I used to travel to Canada frequently and I loved Tim Horton's. When I went to ones in the US I was disappointed because they didn't carry my favorite menu items from the Canadian stores.
What are those items?
@@wurdofwizdumb1928 Two that come to mind were maple donuts and the extreme Italian sandwich. I know maple is very Canadian, but it's popular in the US, too. There was a type of Italian sandwich in the US, but it wasn't the same. Different bread, sauce, etc.
They definitely haven't struggled in Buffalo
They don’t struggle in Rochester either.
My town has a Burger King, Tim Hortons and a Dunkin' all right next to one another. In the morning the BK and Dunkin' parking lots often have about 3 cars each, while the Tim Hortons parking lot is usually packed to capacity. No problem here.
@@moosejawventure its not ironic at all
thats why the restaurant is successful in buffalo
its respect for him, its loyalty
stundt12 Dunkin sucks
There's 2 in Ashland Kentucky and they both seem to do pretty well, have both been there for quite a long time
I now live in the US in Ohio. I have been to Tim Hortons multiple times here. What really hurts them here is the the experience is not the same as at home. Very slow and poor customer service. The people working at the locations are not trained properly. Inconsistent quality as well.
coolkanadian They need to take on Chick-fil-a training?
I noticed the same thing when I travelled down south back in the summer. The donut was horrible, couldn’t even finish it. Store was unkept and tea was kinda blah as well. I think it would do great if they modeled their US stores exactly like Canadian ones.
The biggest difference is speed. Timmies in Canada may be a shadow of it's former self in terms of quality, but it's FAST. They have a dozen people working in an assembly line so as soon as you have finished paying, your drink and food is ready.
All of the US timmies I've been to are painfully slow, they have 2 or 3 people working and nobody is in a hurry. I don't drink Tims coffee because it's good, I drink it because it's familiar and because it's the fastest drive through around. Take away the speed and I'm going to Starbucks or Dunkin
@@justinwalker5274 For drive through maybe, for walkin its painfully slow also.
Jennifer Little Right!! Or maybe bring each store manager up to a flagship store in Toronto to let them work and see how it is done! It would fix a lot!!
The boys are not giving Timmie's a chance eh?
They will never know what they are missing out on, truly heartbreaking.
Spjuthinator NELK
If Tim’s sponsored them they could turn Tim’s into Starbucks for the boys.
As a Michigander I love Timmies
Nelk would not approve of this 😔
Too bad Tim Hortons quality has been falling ever since they got bought out. They were the best before 2014
More like sold off
McDonalds has has caused severe downward pressure on Tim Horton coffee sales in Canada. Arguably, many enjoy Mc D's over Tim's
@@rmcvyp8633 McDonalds coffee literally tastes like watered down Tim Hortons coffee
They used to have baking is store but now it’s something sent frozen and then cooked.
When they got bought they stopped in store baking
I went to a Tim Horton’s in Maine. I loved it. Would love more of them in the US.
Come to Michigan, we got a ton of them.
Come to buffalo ny
I'm from Alabama and Tim Hortons is my favourite coffee ever. It is the only one I can drink black and enjoy. Canadians know their stuff!
Glad it's good in Alabama. It's not good here. I work across from one and people in my office always ask if I would like coffee from there. I never say yes.
@@CujoBD. I live in Canada, and the 3 that are around me, are always great
the Poppenier According to info I've heard from people I know (that I've never verified) McDonald's Canada bought the old Tim Hortons' coffee supply chain. I never drank either before I started drinking coffee so I'm not biased but DAMN McDonald's' coffee is SO MUCH better than Tim Hortons' coffee.
It was great pot coffee like 10 years ago in Canada, now it isn’t as good. Doughnuts ain’t even fresh anymore. And they ruined the turkey bacon club.
@@mattfrankman FOR REAL BRO. TBC was great. Their honey mustard was perfect.
It’s funny because here in Michigan there are a million Tim Horton’s and barely any dunk-ins. Tim’s is so much better
Agreed, in Michigan.
Eh, they used to be good. The 3 around me have been horrible. I’ve had to doctor more in the past 2 years, than any other coffee place. The only reason I even go is because there’s one right down the street from me.
TH-cam lover 1 Dunkin’ has some good sandwiches, but the drinks are lacking. Tim Hortons has better doughnuts and drinks, but not as many good drinks as Starbucks.
I think dunkin has better doughnuts but even the few left in montreal have changed their doughnut recipes for many selections. As for tim hortons its just bad all the way around now and yes, that coffee is as mediocre as mediocre gets. Mcdonalds has perfect coffee if you ask me, not that im lauding mcdonalds
Yo I'm jealous, I live in Vegas and there's literally no Tim Hortons but there's a million Dunkin's
It struggles in Canada too they can’t do my damn order right
They're not a Karen. Tim Hortons seriously forgot half my order and charged the same price still.
Lol you guys need to look for a new Tim Hortons
CoolKidGamer 1497, I honestly just won’t go to any Tim hortons at this point
Half of them don't speak English or at least I can't understand half of them . Fresh off boat.
I have a Tim Hortons 3 minutes away from my house and they always get the order right and the food tastes quite good. You need to go to a different Tim Hortons lol.
The quality has gone down drastically especially with the doughnuts they used to fry them in store now they are not even deep fried. And the coffee used to be better also.
They were always shipped frozen and cooked in ovens when i was there in the 2000s
@@judithanne3533 they used to bake everything in store until the early/mid 2000s now everything comes premade frozen and is reheated and decorated in the back
@@judithanne3533 i was just a kid when they made the switch but i remember everyone talking about it lol
I live in Hamilton Ontario, where Tim's started. On most main roads in our city, you can literally stand at one Tim Horton's, look down the street and see the next one. And they all make money. I've only ever known two Tim's in this city. One just moved to a newly built building across the street. The other closed because it didn't have a drive through... so it re-opened a couple of blocks down. 😂
I moved here a year ago after a decade in Toronto, the number of Tims locations stunned me! Surprised to learn they all make money money, those margins must be good on that medium double double!
Moved to The Hammer in 2016 and was flabbergasted at the number of Tim's in the city, yet only like three Starbucks. They are mostly filled with Boomers and Xers holding onto a bygone era and propping the failing brand up. 🤦♂️
Luckily Hamilton also has a healthy number of independent coffee shops and roasters with great coffee and baked goods. Donut Monster rocks as does Relay Coffee. 👌
Mulberry and Steeltown Garage are great as well.
Can confirm, in Fort Erie on highway 3 you can see the next tim hortons from the each tim hortons you come across
LOL someone park a Horse at Central County Tim Hortons, and is okay to Ride a Horse for Drive thur. Only in Hamilton County.
yess I ive in Cambridge Ontario and its the same here
I also heard their quality went down
I’ve heard this from Canadians and Americans
it did go down when burger king and tims merg .. the coffee tims use to sell they sold off and mcdonalds came and brought it and changed it slightly and re sold it as there own but the service and the product isnt good like it use to be everything use to be baked fresh and now its not so on .. im canadian and i have seen it go down hill so much in the few years burger king has had ownership
THIS!
@@puffysnow8504 I've noticed a quality change, though I still love getting an Ice cap every so often.
100000000000%
I worked there as a teenager for 5 years. I worked in the back making the baked goods. Most items came in frozen and we reheated them.. even in my time there I saw quality changes. Like the muffins- we used to get huge pails of muffin batter and bake that. Then we got muffin like pucks we re heated instead.. that was like 15 years ago so I'm sure a lot more has changed
Tim Hortons does not struggle in western New York
MrRedhunter33 this is so true. See Buffalo.
Connor Whitney I’m from buffalo
MrRedhunter33 I’m from a town 60 miles south of Buffalo, but I go to college at UB.
Buffalo is FILLED with Tim hortons
Coffee proudly roasted in Rochester, NY
It doesn't struggle in Buffalo, NY.
When I studied abroad in Canada from Japan, I often went to Tim Hortons and drank Hot Chocolate. It was so tasty. I miss Tim Hortons.
Nobody cares about what you think kamikaze
Glad you liked it! Gambare
@@SteveVi0lence same with you,now shut up. This is a comment section
@@lobetec314 shut up 9/11
@@SteveVi0lence m8 nobody asked for your opinion
Tim Horton's stays packed in Detroit. And they are at every corner
It's because it's close to Canada lol
That and they're way cheaper than Starbucks. Like half the price....😳
@@Mizz.Person honestly, why would I go to a place and pay more to get worse coffee.
Well, maybe not my part of the US, there are 6 within a 2 mile radius of my house, with a 7th under construction (Buffalo, NY)
The farthest south i get to see them when leaving buffalo is WV
As a Canadian, this is the worst fake Canadian accent ever.
It's an American trying to be like us lol 😄😂
@@makealbertaamerican4889 us? lol
@Tommy Hammernots 😂😂
I know eh?
@@justinmorris9519 I was actually talking about the narrator of the video lol
In Canada do they call Tim Hortons “Tim’s”?
We call it Timmies.
Tim's or Timmie's.
That’s a nickname, right?
@@skytrakn yes thats the nickname we dont call it cafe and bake shop like in the states just called tim hortons and tims or timmies for short
@@puffysnow8504 If my memory serves me correctly, another nickname for the brand in Canada is, "Timmy HoHo's"
I didn’t even know Tim Hortons is in the United States. I thought they are only in Canada.
They had bought 'Bess Eaton' doughnuts,and made them 'Tim Horton's'.They all soon closed!This was in R.I..The ads left everyone confused.One of the ads:Two million canadians,can't be wrong?WTF!Who cares!...And,almost nobody has ever heard of Tim Horton.(hockey is not that big,in the states).
@@tompain2751 "Hockey is not that big in the States"...
...yet American teams have won the last 25 or so Stanley Cups? (although with mostly Canadian rosters)
In Great Britain too, went to three of them in Scotland
The St Louis Blues were the most Canadian team in the NHL by nationality of players. U.S teams win the Stanly Cup because their markets are bigger, thus can afford better players and facilities
Ignorant
We had a Tim Horton’s in Indianapolis earlier this year. They built it from the ground up and it was probably open for less than two weeks and then it was closed. It was so strange to see this newly built building and drive through empty. I’d never seen a business come and go so fast! I never even had a chance to try them but knew they had a few in Michigan. Ours news just said they left due to contract disagreements. A few months ago the building was made into a discount tire store. Interesting to see this story.
Go to downtown boston theres literally a dunkin donuts almost every other block I'm not exagerating
That's like every where in Canada with tim hortons. My city alone has over 20 timmies in a 5 mile radius.
@Ethan Hindley-Rivera(open): IKR? I used to live/work in Pawtucket, not quite an hour away, and that was the same story along Newport Avenue.
US: 2 Starbucks in the same street corner.
Canada: Tim Hortons literally side by side (Gass station Tim's and actual building where I live)
Ive heard that in Toronto i believe, there is actually an intersection with a Tim Hortons on all 4 of the corners.
Tim Hortons rules in Michigan.
Theyre always packed.
Keith Tomczyk if they ever leave Michigan I’ll be so upset lol
Keith Tomczyk yup
Yupppp 😂👍👍
I choose biggby everytime lol
Keith Tomczyk they should open up below you as well(Indiana). There is a great number of people traveling to Michigan or Canada and every single one of them usually goes to Tim Hortons.
First thing I do when I’m in Canada is go to Timmy’s
Same
As a Canadian i can honestly say the coffee is awful and the Tim Hortons chain is also struggling in Canada, the original founders are full of corruption and scandals and pay the employees non liveable wages... Oh the times are changing..
I tried Tim Horton's in Dubai before I tried it in Canada. the one in Dubai was pricier, but of much better quality.
I am sure the chain obeys all employment laws. I have not heard of any scandals. I am Canadian.
Probably because starbucks and dunkin donuts already have a monopoly on the whole quick coffee thing
They're pretty dang close. If Starbucks bought Starbucks, we would have a monopoly. Good thing about near my location, we have a timmies, Starbucks, and Dunkin (I honestly prefer Timmies). I just hope they dint close the one by me
@@alexisdodge4711 same with me lol, I live in the US and we have a Tim Hortons, Dunkin, and a starbucks within 10 minutes of where I live. Honestly I'd say Timmy's is the best
@@colinnoble8234 yeah
Yeah but at the same time Tim Hortons has the complete monopoly when it comes to quick coffee in Canada so it's a trade off
@@nevoy7076 well theres Starbucks in Canada too which is popular as well. (Not at all as here tho)
Is buffalo and WNY the best example for successful Tim Hortons franchising/expansion. Prob the one US that holds the strongest bond with the brand
John Warthling yeah there’s a ton here one every 4 miles or so
Yeah in Buffalo Tim’s is way more popular than Dunkin or Starbucks
WNYer here. I have 4 Tim Hortons within a mile of me. I have to get in a car and drive to Starbucks, and the only Dunkin is a crap location in a gas station.
They're very successful in Michigan as well, particularly in Southeast Michigan/Central Michigan.
Exactly I live in Rochester, NY and I’m pretty sure we have more Tim Hortons than Starbucks or Dunkin. I always attributed it to the fact that we’re close to the Canadian Border
Edit: Which after watching this video I guess I was right
“It’s over polite”
Me, a Canadian: what? Where what? Excuse me? Have you been to Toronto?!
Dopeymeme honestly don’t know who made that stereotype, but i mean I’ll take it lol
Honestly Americans not missing out on much when it comes to Tim Hortons, it’s the same cheap low quality coffee that Dunkin Donuts has. It makes no sense for them entering the U.S if they already have coffee shops that operate exactly like them. Either Tim Hortons need to improve their quality or they’re going have to be different in order to complete.
I live near a ton of Tim Hortons here in Buffalo, NY. Honestly, people in my city love to glorify TH, but the food tastes okay (at best), in my opinion. It is okay comparatively to some other morning-type fast food on the market, but I'm not all that big of a fan overall.
Found another local! Yeah I can agree 100%. People do, quite literally, obsess over it. Everyone at my school did (was it hard to guess there was a Tim Hortons right next door?) And now my mom is (addicted to their Oreo donuts). Can't comment much on the food as I haven't tried much of it though tbh.
Devon Rusinek bro it’s like that in Canada too dont worry
Timmies is a good mix of value, quality, and speed. At least in Canada every Timmies I've been through has beaten other chains on time. I can expect a full lineup to be handled in about 5 minutes while others may be close to 10. If you're a contractor this matters! Tim's quality has gone down but they are cheap and fast. I'd say they look worse now due to McD's quality going up by a significant amount over the last 10 years. McD used to be the worst fast food IMO and now they seem like one of the best.
I still prefer tims over dunkin, no one in buffalo goes to dunkin
Yeah Tim Hortons isnt the best, but i still buy from them just cus lmfao. It tastes slightly better than mcdonalds anyways and has similar prices.
Starbucks is so expensive. I'd rather go to Tim Horton.
I've worked both as a team member at tim hortons, and a barista at Starbucks. If you want safe food, go to starbucks. Sorry tim hortons is disqusting. I'm not getting into it but serious health issues
Lar M Yeah, simple coffee drinks are cheaper at Tim’s. I prefer the selection of drinks at Starbucks, but the doughnuts at Tim’s are obviously good.
@@cn2673 timmys food is bad and the coffee is mediocre. It's cheap tho
@@AQGOAT24 If you haven't anything nice to say it be better if you zipped your mouth permanently closed!! 🤬
@@mattpedro5343 Your idea on Tim Hortons having bad food is fake news. I have never gotten sick from eating their food. NEVER!! Thier Turkey sandwich is my absolute favourite! Stop spreading fake news and get your information straight!!
When I came across a Tim Hortons in the Toronto airport after a horrendous overnight flight it was like manna from heaven
They're going about it all wrong. They should open up Tim Hortons concession stands in every NHL arena across the US. Instant sales.
No, they should start selling FRESH donuts, made IN-STORE in actual fryers. If you wanna be a donut shop, you gotta start with actual donuts, not reheated frozen leftovers.
I went to Toronto for a weekend from Chicago and I fell in LOVE with Tim Hortons
David Larrea Am from Ohio...I love Tim Hortons !
I think they would do well in Chicago! I’m also from Chi Town and we love coffee and donuts here that is for sure! Not to mention I think it would do well cause they are all over Michigan so the truth is most Chicagoans recognize the brand if they’ve ever gone on a weekend trip to Michigan
We have 2 here in my hometown in Saltillo, Mexico and I love it, Dunkin Donuts simply did not make it here, and Starbucks is overrated.
Deported
Miguel Ángel Gonzalez Castro and it’s a better quality coffee honestly
Saltillo is just a Monterrey suburb, ew.
I use to work at Tim hortons as a teenager. The quality of coffee declined 20 yrs ago and hasn’t reached quality level since
So if Tim Horton’s represents the Canadian stereotype of hockey, why didn’t they open some stores in Minnesota, the state of hockey
They did about 2 years ago. Living in the Minneapolis area I seen approximately 6 open. 2019 they are all closed now.
captain ahab your reply shows no relevance to the reply you commented to, unless I'm missing something
They tried opening one in International Falls, which has very little to offer for food and drink and it closed. Why? Because Timmie's is garbage.
Q: why can’t tim Hortons succeed in the states?
A: Americans neglect to believe there is a country called Canada up north.
And that we have cities, not just igloos
@APYR Hardly. It was probably a joke. Something Canadians don't understand. Horton's is okay, but hardly something to go crazy about.
@Maxime Brousseau Damn cold,
@@makealbertaamerican4889 Awwww did someone get their feelings hurt? Canada is not bad, I have enjoyed my visits there.
@@makealbertaamerican4889 Awwww. Personally I am glad that you are proud of being Canadian. However, having heard Canadians comments about America and Americans, your comment applies to you as well. I have nothing against Canadians but that doesn't mean I can't make comments.
There's as many Tim Hortons around Detroit as there are Starbucks or Dunkin Donuts, perhaps even more.
Odd choice of venue to build up your brand, a dead, poverty-stricken city like that, but it was probably the water that drew them there; people must be used to their coffee tasting somewhat toxic. ;-)
@@milesthales5445 Uhh, no. It's cause Detroit is literally across from Toronto.
@@-SP. I'm aware of that. Hence the " ;-) "
@FIVE__O__FEVER 4 hours is pretty close, bud. I'm not trying to draw a map for pedestrians to the nearest TH.
@Miles Thales You're thinking of Flint with the toxic drinking water.. They were OK before some idiot switched them from Detroit water.
We have a tim hortons on every bloke in Buffalo NY
Tim’s US locations map looks like that of Panera’s in Canada.
One opened in Downtown St Louis and was closed within a year. Not good planning.
It's not good. The coffee is weak and the donuts are far too sweet.
Kohl Martin That’s funny because that sounds like my kind of place. I’ve never tried it! But now I’m going to. LOL
Oh my goodness, there were 7 in the St Louis area and they are all closed now. I didn’t realize this!
@@merlinthebikewizard4392 Some companies can pull off sweet donuts. When we used to have a Krispy Kreme, those donuts were to die for. Tim Hortons' is pretty meh, and you'd really only get it if you were particularly hungry or are in a rush.
@whispers from my arse say Honestly, I feel like they've been this way for some time. I don't know if BK really made a difference. Krispy Kreme was really the best donut shop in the region, and so they left a vacuum when they shut down here. Tim Hortons-- both in the food and the sort of ambience of their shops-- is severely lacking.
I used to live in buffalo NY, and there were Tim Hortons everywhere! It's very popular at our campus as well. I love Tim Hortons! It's cheaper than dunkin and the coffee is so good!
Well Buffalo is basically Canada
I would go to a Tim hortons if there was one near me here in Texas
Tim Horton's tastes gross.
@@SpriteZero Are you American or Canadian? In Canada it tastes very nice, while in America, not so much.
@@windturbine6796 I live in Canada.
@@SpriteZero I live in America
This is all pointless. Tim's is Brazilian owned!
So I guess WNY is the exception. Because they're everywhere.
nick Betroski exactly
tim horton lived in buffalo when he played for the buffalo sabers
he died driving back to buffalo after a game with the leafs
the restaurants are successful everywhere people remember tim
Why you acting like Tim hortons is the only fast food restaurant in Canada? Being like "America has mcdonald's" bruh we do too
Spooks11 Obviously so, however Tim Hortons has had a great deal of time establishing themselves from the ground up in Canadian markets. They would need to compete against a far stronger coffee market in the US, and without the benefits of a cultural presence like in Canada.
We know you have McDonald’s
I wish there were Tim Hortons everywhere in the USA.
Tim Hortons is everywhere in Buffalo, Ny aka lower canada.
We have one on every corner 🤣
@@NoLifeGamer88 I'm sure if you put up a map of just Tim Hortons locations people would be convinced it's Canada lmao
Buffalo is near US Canada border. So it's easy to find timhorton.
@@cpufreak101 A Tims loving state is a friend of Canada.
Cheers eh!
I thought she said "Floridians lack the brain awareness...", not brand lol. Either one works I guess
HEY!!! I used to live in Florida 😂😂😂😂😂
I’m Canadian. It’s average tasting coffee and you need to tell the server how many creams you want. The donuts can are smallish and really sweet, the soups and other foods come a food service company.
Hey CNBC, just letting you know Canadians see McDonald's as a viable alternative as well. Tim Hortons has been losing a lot of its brand power in the last 10 years.
If your coffee is comparable to McDonalds then you need to change something.
Tim hortons lost alot of the rights to their field. They didnt renew alot of their contracts soon enough and mcdonalds got alot of good fields. So tim hortons coffee is still like good but mcdonalds reminds you of the good ol Timmies days. I trust Tim's will be a nice fresher brew compared to McDonald's but I mean you gotta compromise for good coffee.
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And both of them will be busy.
I've seen a tims, same parking lot a gas station. and that gas station has a tims inside of it.
That’s so they get the traffic going north while the one across the street from it gets the customers going south on their commute
Canadians love their timmys, got like 3 tim hortons with in walking distance near where i live.
Omg same
"They have probably definitely reached the saturation point." Make up your mind.
They'll take your response into consideration. Your comment is very important to them.
Meanwhile stsrbuck in toronto closing up nd turned into pot stores
There used to be a Tim Hortons in Union Square in NYC. I went in there once and the people behind the counter were so rude that I never came back. There was a Starbucks a few doors down and a Dunkin' Donuts next to the Starbucks. No reason to go to Tim Hortons.
Those rude employess are now working at the Tim's in my wee BC coastal town.
The locations in Buffalo, NY (my hometown) are exempt from this claim
Yep, DD has mostly left the area because they can't compete with tims.
It bothers me that the narrator and several of the people interviewed cannot pronounce Horton’s. It’s HorTon’s not Horrin’s.
Sorry to hear they are struggling. I used to enjoy going to the one on 6th Avenue, near Bryant Park here in NYC, before it closed.
Not surprised, they struggle here in their home country Canada. Mediocre service, average coffee/tea, not surprising.
I live in suburban Detroit and we have Tim Horton's every couple miles. While their donuts and food are bland and forgettable their coffee is awesome.
Respect from Canada
Geez lady. It's Tim HORTONS. Not Tim Hor'ons.
All about the Dark Roast coffee, Iced Capp & timbits.
False, the first Tim Horton’s was a burger restaurant in North Bay Ontario before it started selling coffee and donuts
Raptors Fan19 wrong, it’s Hamilton Ontario in Ottawa st. Get good dummy
I live in Saginaw, Michigan and there’s more Tim Hortons in my town than Starbucks and Dunkin’s combined
Aden Gohm yeah I think because we are so close to Canada, I live in Wyandotte so it’s literally right accross the water, there are about 12 in about a 10 mile radius.
I live about 35 miles south of saginaw and we have tim hortons and no Star bucks
Let them come to the Caribbean. Starbucks here is too costly we need competition !!!
People in the Caribbean should build their own brands so they can control their own Economic Destiny. 😎👍
Come to chicago area, we had White Hen Pantry, never been replaced after parent co sold them out to 711 and they turned all into 711, missing a decent consistent convieiniant store with coffee and what not, Arlington Hts, IL place come here
timmies needs to fix their coffee, it sucks at the moment.
DigitalYojimbo agreed! And it used to be the best.
YES!
@@_bc0297 mcdicks is so much better.
It always sucked
DigitalYojimbo what are u on bro mcdicks coffee tates like burned asphalt
You guys obviously haven’t been to WNY. There’s a Timmies on damn near every street corner. Lol
Tim Hortons has grown exponentially over in the UK, one opened in my local shopping plaza about a year ago and two have just opened up near my work, I love it, it’s so cheap yet so good and I just can’t get enough of timbits!
Used to love Tim’s, when they actually made their baked goods. Now I seek out local donut shops that actually make them.
As a Canadian Tim hortons is overrated. It’s doing well because of saturation of the market in Canada, literally every 2-3 blocks there is a Tim Hortons store or in a gas station, definitely convenient but McDonalds guarantees consistent coffee all throughout. I might even add that a double double (2 sugar 2 cream for you Americans) from McDonalds is better than Timmies.
Ultimately, Tim Hortons greatest strength is also its greatest downfall.
That because McDonald's coffee is literally Tim's old coffee my dude. Tim's opted to get cheaper, worse quality provider of coffee beans and McDonald's was quick to pick up the provider Tim's decided to drop.
McDonalds is terrible, how is that even coffee? Only time I go to McDonalds is when it's free or when I've overspent for the week and need to keep my coffee costs down and Starbucks? What the hell is that?
Of course Starbucks is the best
Compared to Starbucks, Tim Hortons is flat and tasteless ....
@@chaslau2345 It differs depending on the Tims you go to. Starbucks in my town is trash, no one goes there. Tims here is pretty good. Thats the problem with such a big chain of coffee shops is it differs from place to place.
It would better serve to focus on emerging markets and go as a premium brand.
Nah we good, we don't need the western diet. You big ol' fat Americans.
Those usually fail because they don’t cater to local tastes and prices. Really only McDonald’s and KFC have done well in those markets. You also usually have to get a corrupt poorly managed local parter to get entry to the market
@@jzk2020 Fatness isn't exclusive to the US and Tim Hortons isn't American.
C. Lincoln Did you not watch the video? Tim Hortons isn’t American
@@jzk2020 lmao how did you watch this whole video and type this
Speaking as a Canadian, I feel their analysis was good except they also should realize the big appeal of Tim’s is its mitigating effects during our long winters. Nothing like a double double in -10C weather - the coffee isn’t the best, but it’s a cheap hand warmer i buy when walking through the city.
That wouldn't surprise me. My city should be proud to have these stores, my dad goes to them a lot! (Toledo, OH).
I confess to using a large blacck coffee from Tim's to thaw out the frozen door lock on my Ford Escape. Toss and then turn the key...worked great.
From a Canadian, Tim Hortons isn't even that good anymore. I could swear that they were way better back in the day, but their downturn in quality seems to coincide when they were bought out. The donuts are now more stale, the chocolate icing on them is so watered down that it literally drips like water when in slightly warm weather, there's barely any icing to begin with on them, and the soups are _way_ oversalted (for preservation during shipment, maybe?)
I remember when I loved getting Timmies donuts, they were the best, and the icing used to be more generous, but me and my family noticed a definite drop in quality in the past decade.
I'm not a coffee drinker so I've never had the coffee, but from what my friends and family tell me, Tim Hortons coffee frequently tastes burnt now, so they stopped going. Used to be their number one stop.
Yeah their coffee isn't that good anymore, even their K-Cups have gotten worse. I've switched to Starbucks.
Stale donuts, stale bagels, fake disgusting vomit worthy egg, i avoid them like the plague
I love Tim Hortons, it's where I go to get my coffee when I do decide to buy coffee
It's cheaper and better than Dunkin Donuts
Tim’s is SO popular in Northern Maine, in every town. It helps they’re open 24/7 in some locations, since there’s not much to do anyways. 😅 helps we’re closer to the border
There's two Tim Hortons in my town in Michigan (and another one in the next town). There's no Starbucks, one Dunkin. Also, the last Tim Hortons opened like a few years ago and it's always packed when I go in there.
I live in western NY and tims is everywhere and there are barely any starbucks or Dunkin near me... I work at a tim hortons and my entier family personally prefer Tim hortons over anything else
Well since last few years it's losing in Canada too... it's not the same as it used to be
I'm Canadian and would rather go cross the border to a Dunkin Donuts or Krispy Kreme than to a Tim Horton's in my backyard. The donuts are simply better there since they make them onsite and Tim's get their donuts premade and frozen.
I'm sorry dude but I'll go to Tim Hortons any day rather cross the border to get crap
Bruce Halstead krispy kreme is def superior
Krispy Kreme doughnuts are actually made in the store though and you can tell.
@@Toyeboy89 True. We have a Krispy Kreme here and their donuts are so much better as they're made on site.
they used to make them instore at least at the tim hortons near where i grew up, however it was much larger than your typical tim hortons today and had a much greater selection of doughnuts.
They didn’t make it in the Minneapolis area. All closed in less than 3 years.
J ROZAY of course we have Caribou and Starbucks with a dad of Dunkin Donuts. There’s no room for another coffee chain.
If I ever see a Tim Horton’s across the street from a Dunkin, I’m immediately going to think of the Krusty Krab and the Chum Bucket.
'cause Dunkin' tastes like chum
I've been to the Tim Hortons in Penn Station. The donuts are good
Avery the Cuban-American Are there any donuts you don’t like, fatass?
There's one in midtown too
White Mail Privilege I’m not even close to that, way off with my weight. Triggered much? I’m skinny, not all Americans are like the stereotypes. You act like I eat all donuts which I don’t
White Mail Privilege Found the triggered Canadian bacon
Krispy Kreme is a better option at Penn Station.
I’m not gonna lie, they are most certainly not
struggling in Western New York, there is a Tim Hortons on like every corner here. And I can certainly say, it is better than Starbucks
Perhaps as long as you're drinking a straight coffee. I don't recommend screwing with the espresso drinks, it is clearly not a thing.
@@parasitius They don't do fancy coffees well, other than iced capps. I do get them to add a shot of espresso to my regular coffee once in a while.
Thank you, donut is so good
I went to a Tim's in Maine and it was crazy busy
Why not have burger king start carrying tim horton's coffee in the usa? Then after 5 to 10 years of that americans would recognize the name better and you could open tim hortons locations.
Ideally you want your drink from Starbucks and your donut from Tim Hortons. Well worth the two stops.
Coffee from a local roaster and donuts from local shops are better.
wft I'm not going into two different stores to pick two things that are commonly enjoyed together.
Starbucks sucks if you want a normal cup of coffee. Dunkin or even McDonalds kills Starbucks in terms of straight coffee.
No the quality of Starbucks is wayyy better in the US, and the quality of Tim Hortons is wayyy better in Canada. I tried both in both countries multiple times.
I grew up in Buffalo so I find it really odd (but not at all unexpected after watching the video) that Tim's would struggle away from the border. Growing up, everyone drank Tim Horton's coffee and they're widely considered the gold standard of chain coffee shop quality in my hometown. People get weird looks for preferring Starbucks or Dunkin. I'd love to see more people trying Tim Hortons, but at the end of the day, if I can get Tim Hortons coffee, I'll be happy
It's sad... I really would love to have Tims in California, loved it when I went to Vancouver