What a debate on here ❤ good stuff lads ! Thanks to who felt I won annnnnnd thanks to who felt I lost on here. Heres why, your fans of battling and thats the whole game ❤ keep sharing and banging that like button you legends
Went to school with Michael at St Malachy's and was in his form class in 8, 9 and 10E. Didnt talk to him too much but he was always a really nice fella to everyone. Can tell you for an absolute fact that even being from belfast hes more irish than any of the folks who were saying that shit about him and giving him grief after the battle. Proper nice fella whos done so much for the irish rap battle community, especially over the last 10 months, and to just see so many people react in the most garbage way possible to the fact that he won is so disappointing. Hope you're keeping well Michael and dont let this get you down too much. You should be incredibly proud of what you've accomplished.
I had rapthor 2-1 taking the first and second and vizual taking that third with a powerful performance. Both guys did incredible all three rounds and it was extremely close. Both would have made great champs, but there can only be one. Congrats to Viz, he's put in a fuckton of work over the years and highly deserves it.
Every time I watch this, I give it to someone else. I give Viz 1st and Rapthor 2nd and can never make up my mind if I rate Rapthor's flow or Viz's punches in the 3rd higher. It's a razor close debatable and anyone who got in their feelings about this being a 'robbery' needs to chill. It's one thing to be passionate, but people going up to Viz after the battle and saying he's 'not Irish' and slinging abuse is not it and if this stopped them coming to future events, cheers for doing us the favour of not coming. I'd like to see a rematch in neutral ground next year.
Waaaay too close for there to be any strife or complaining. Sounds to me like a few Karens had too much to drink and people bought into some gas. Rapthor was fantastic but so was Viz.
Great clash, Vizual got heavily slept on especially in the third but it was very close regardless. One of the best Irish vs Irish clashes in years and the numbers should reflect that. Production quality was very good as well.
I had Rapthor 2-1, viz with the first Rapthor with the last 2, both killed it and had me losing my shit though 🔥 Congratulations to Viz, can't wait to see what comes next for him 🔥🇮🇪
What I love is between the comments and judges not only is there debate on the battle result but, also rounds. Some saying Rapthors third is round of the battle, some saying second was clear either side which means every round came down to preference. Sign of a great battle. Pity about the aftermath as, it takes away from a classic back and forth
More so when its not the guys in the actual battle fighting as well dude. Like Micka and me are mates maybe thats being overlooked a bit too ? I dunno. Actually no 😂 his Bi Polar thing haha fuuuck him
How I feel about who won: Viz won the first 10-9, Rapthor won the second 10-8, I'm having big trouble picking who won the third.. I'm LEANING towards Rapthor but only by a bit.. maybe? This is a close battle, dunno how anyone can be mad.
One of the best Irish vs Irish clashes since RIF formed. Probably up in the top 5. It’s clearly debatable and I agree with R1 Viz and R2 Rapthor. Down to the third and preference of style. Fingers crossed PBI continues and we see a defense of the belt. Great work all involved.
Hopefully PBI can be what DFI should have been. I feel like DFI kind of got sidelined and forgotten about which is a shame because Ireland has plenty of rappers who I think can stand up to UK top tiers. Some of the names that come to mind (but not all) would be: - Haidees - Vizual - Nugget - Row B - Rapthor - Terminal - Jonny Darko - Scauldy (A recent addition to my list as I feel he's really levelled up lately and is showing the potential in him that Row B spoke about in their battle)
The straight out rap fan in me edges this to Rapthor, but the polish to Viz's overall style is undeniable now, a performance worthy of a title too - that's when you know you have a top quality battle when it's proper debatable like that. Any talk of bias is a bit over exaggerated, the main take away should be this was a fuckin good bout for the belt, well done PB
In the room it felt like alot of bias to be fair mate. Briggsy even says in his judging he'll understand why the room will disagree with him but the video should tell a different story and it definitely does
I really think that the cpin toss made the difference here ...... That repubatle from viz in the first seems to have edged it to him which just shows how close the battle was. What a fuckin battle lads 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Congrats Viz. Imo Rapthor 3-0 1st and 3rd close 2nd no question Flow, structure, number of punches, jokes and bars very well balanced by Rapthor overall.
Rapthor has top tier presence and projection. Viz is relaxed and comes off as natural and effortless- great defense during Rapthors rounds. Good battle that held my attention the whole time. I would have to watch again to judge it but it was close enough that there should be no issues. Both were terrific.
I think its more clear that Im an entertainer and cater to a particular audience. Done so in Belfast vs Redwolf. London vs Lazy kept my refferencing for them. I love my home town but its not like they've supported me over 10 year for no reason man. Honestly appreciate you taking your time to watch the battle I just wanted to clarify that with you
This battle may as well have been decided on a coin flip for how close it was. Rapthor is arguably top 5 ever in Irish Battle Rap and Vizual is the rising star flying the flag for his scene. It had to go to somebody so unfortunately there had to be someone going home without the belt, but I think this is one of those that really could have been decided either way with minimal protest either side. One left with the belt but nobody lost here.
1st round was close but I edged Rapthor based on his narrative. 2nd round to me was clear Rapthor - Viz was button bashing a bit 3rd round was close as shit. I can’t call it but I think Rapthor had it in the bag by then. Can’t be super mad as Viz did his thing too but this the best I saw Rapthor
Rapthor ain’t never rapped that good before, he took that, possibly even 3-0. I’ll need to rewatch but I don’t know how Viz was given round 3. Briggzy probably the realest guy in UKBR but it’s a bit odd having him judge a title match in his league with a guy that runs the whole PB Irish scene vs a guy that was rapping against the league at times.
(Briggz) I literally stepped in because nobody else would - I try avoid judging anything on Prem for this reason. But yeah the 5 judges were the only ones willing to do it.
@@PremierBattlesyeah I thought that might’ve happened, mate. I don’t envy you because fundamentally, the judging is so difficult to do at a BR event. Either way, Viz killed it as well so it’s definitely nothing to lose sleep over, as some “fans” seem to think it is 😂
It's mad how subjective this shit actually is. For me both in the room and on vid I had the 3rd being Vizs round no question . In the room I had 1 and 2 on rapthor no questions but watching back the first is debatable
Got round to watching this now. Easy see why it's contentious. Feel Rapthor took that handy wonderfully written verses with a variety of cadences and flows. His material had more interesting reference points. Crowd were hyping him in annoying way at times causing stop/start bits but otherwise it's pretty perfect. Viz was grand but he's had better rounds and his vocal fry delivery style and setup punch writing can seem a bit one dimensional vs someone rapping this well.
What a battle that is ! 🔥 I can't call it its so close maybe viz 2-1? 🤔 best I've ever seen rapthor though I thort he was class , some of viz's 👊 in this are quality though
Now you see how Im an adult and handle differing opinions bro ? Thats what you shoulda done with Academy. Carry yourself knowing everyones gonna have an opinion n you'll be laughing. Where you went and done a whole angle just because I believed others performed better at the try outs. So I hope in me being this way that you can learn from that and apply it to your own personal development young man
And therein the problem lies. If battlers turn up to perform at their absolute best, then the choice of judges should be picked to reflect that. The reason for the upset wasn't just based on stumbles from Viz but also the fact that the owner of the league judged Viz, who also runs the league. Precarious and questionable, to say the least. Still.. Viz had a phenomenonal performance and is highly respected for all the hard work he did for the scene.
I don't see how this is a debate. No hate but Viz got bodied. Loads of random mid similies that weren't direct. Stumbles too. He didn't take a single round. I'm a big fan of Viz but he just did not win this
From the first round from both, the quality was high. I reckon Viz took the first, but it was a good back and forth. First time really watching Rapthor, he's charismatic, good stage presence. Really good Irish title match though, strong performances from both. Good vibe. 3-2 split decision on the judges vote. Could have gone either way. Tough one.
I think what briggzy said about how vizual kept at his neck was pretty accurate, i sensed the judges maybe werent feeling rapthor going off on one about english judges and the whole patriotic stuff i didnt feel it to, i think that maybe cost him the battle a bit as he was pretty amazing but if you get shit wrong then it holds no weight so to start off ranting about england when his opponent is irish then cuss the judges for being english which again was 4 irish fellas and one brit, all that stuff now just falls flat whereas vizual kept on him, even praised the uk guys for supporting their scene while you got rapthor banging on about how were all cunts...Even the irish fellas judging i dont think were feeling it, watched this a few times now and thought it was a great battle, judges were very very good and fair, for me...Vizual takes the W.
Trying to watch this with 0 bias and the only debatable thing for me is did Rapthor 3-0 Viz or was it 2-1. That's to take nothing away from Viz, Rapthor was just on a different level this battle.
Viz had good bars but a lot of what he spat could have been used against anyone and was just irrelevant. I think rapthor tore viz down way more and styled on him a bit. I’d have gone 2-1 Rapthor
Congrats 🎉🎉🎉 2 both Emcees This Shyt was Crazy I wish I was There #MinnesotaNdaBuildin #ListenBroListen I’m a Rap Person I had 1-1 goin into the 3rd Here’s the Thing You can Not Take your foot off the Gas All JOKES A SIDE when there’s MONEY ON THE FLOOR Rapthor Jokes 1st Rd Cool Vizual Was More Focused The whole Battle 2-1(W)
2-1 rapthor..viz took the 1st easy..vizuals opening about his dad in the 3rd was trying too hard to tug at big emotions with not enough of a creative pay off for it to punch at the end. Rapthor had a lot of filler..but it filled out some fuckin amazing writing. Far more creative than his opponent.. and that's why I gave rapthor a clear win in the last 2 rounds
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What a debate on here ❤ good stuff lads ! Thanks to who felt I won annnnnnd thanks to who felt I lost on here. Heres why, your fans of battling and thats the whole game ❤ keep sharing and banging that like button you legends
Went to school with Michael at St Malachy's and was in his form class in 8, 9 and 10E. Didnt talk to him too much but he was always a really nice fella to everyone. Can tell you for an absolute fact that even being from belfast hes more irish than any of the folks who were saying that shit about him and giving him grief after the battle. Proper nice fella whos done so much for the irish rap battle community, especially over the last 10 months, and to just see so many people react in the most garbage way possible to the fact that he won is so disappointing. Hope you're keeping well Michael and dont let this get you down too much. You should be incredibly proud of what you've accomplished.
I had rapthor 2-1 taking the first and second and vizual taking that third with a powerful performance.
Both guys did incredible all three rounds and it was extremely close. Both would have made great champs, but there can only be one.
Congrats to Viz, he's put in a fuckton of work over the years and highly deserves it.
Every time I watch this, I give it to someone else. I give Viz 1st and Rapthor 2nd and can never make up my mind if I rate Rapthor's flow or Viz's punches in the 3rd higher. It's a razor close debatable and anyone who got in their feelings about this being a 'robbery' needs to chill. It's one thing to be passionate, but people going up to Viz after the battle and saying he's 'not Irish' and slinging abuse is not it and if this stopped them coming to future events, cheers for doing us the favour of not coming.
I'd like to see a rematch in neutral ground next year.
Waaaay too close for there to be any strife or complaining. Sounds to me like a few Karens had too much to drink and people bought into some gas. Rapthor was fantastic but so was Viz.
Great clash, Vizual got heavily slept on especially in the third but it was very close regardless. One of the best Irish vs Irish clashes in years and the numbers should reflect that. Production quality was very good as well.
Haven't seen a live prem in a while. Let's fuckin' go!
I had Rapthor 2-1, viz with the first Rapthor with the last 2, both killed it and had me losing my shit though 🔥 Congratulations to Viz, can't wait to see what comes next for him 🔥🇮🇪
What I love is between the comments and judges not only is there debate on the battle result but, also rounds. Some saying Rapthors third is round of the battle, some saying second was clear either side which means every round came down to preference. Sign of a great battle. Pity about the aftermath as, it takes away from a classic back and forth
More so when its not the guys in the actual battle fighting as well dude. Like Micka and me are mates maybe thats being overlooked a bit too ? I dunno. Actually no 😂 his Bi Polar thing haha fuuuck him
How I feel about who won:
Viz won the first 10-9,
Rapthor won the second 10-8,
I'm having big trouble picking who won the third.. I'm LEANING towards Rapthor but only by a bit.. maybe?
This is a close battle, dunno how anyone can be mad.
Im not mad bud, a lot of people are but I dont think its fair to say that reps me. Im passionate though??? Always have been my guy ❤
One of the best Irish vs Irish clashes since RIF formed. Probably up in the top 5.
It’s clearly debatable and I agree with R1 Viz and R2 Rapthor. Down to the third and preference of style.
Fingers crossed PBI continues and we see a defense of the belt. Great work all involved.
Hopefully PBI can be what DFI should have been. I feel like DFI kind of got sidelined and forgotten about which is a shame because Ireland has plenty of rappers who I think can stand up to UK top tiers.
Some of the names that come to mind (but not all) would be:
- Haidees
- Vizual
- Nugget
- Row B
- Rapthor
- Terminal
- Jonny Darko
- Scauldy (A recent addition to my list as I feel he's really levelled up lately and is showing the potential in him that Row B spoke about in their battle)
The straight out rap fan in me edges this to Rapthor, but the polish to Viz's overall style is undeniable now, a performance worthy of a title too - that's when you know you have a top quality battle when it's proper debatable like that.
Any talk of bias is a bit over exaggerated, the main take away should be this was a fuckin good bout for the belt, well done PB
In the room it felt like alot of bias to be fair mate. Briggsy even says in his judging he'll understand why the room will disagree with him but the video should tell a different story and it definitely does
Congratulations Viz❤️
I really think that the cpin toss made the difference here ...... That repubatle from viz in the first seems to have edged it to him which just shows how close the battle was.
What a fuckin battle lads 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Abs amazing bro ,🙌 deserved that title so much mate!
Blog soon come
Been waiting on this one
Congrats Viz.
Imo Rapthor 3-0
1st and 3rd close
2nd no question
Flow, structure, number of punches, jokes and bars very well balanced by Rapthor overall.
We need more of irish rapthor he was so good 🇮🇪🥶
Rapthor has top tier presence and projection.
Viz is relaxed and comes off as natural and effortless- great defense during Rapthors rounds. Good battle that held my attention the whole time. I would have to watch again to judge it but it was close enough that there should be no issues. Both were terrific.
Its clear how much rapthor was relying on the hometown advantage, it backfired
I think its more clear that Im an entertainer and cater to a particular audience. Done so in Belfast vs Redwolf. London vs Lazy kept my refferencing for them. I love my home town but its not like they've supported me over 10 year for no reason man. Honestly appreciate you taking your time to watch the battle I just wanted to clarify that with you
Absolute fire battle. Great work lads.
Insane from both sides 🔥🔥 love yas both ❤️
This is a classic tbh
Big respect to both guys
Such tight and potent writing from Viz
this was a fantastic battle all around
This battle may as well have been decided on a coin flip for how close it was.
Rapthor is arguably top 5 ever in Irish Battle Rap and Vizual is the rising star flying the flag for his scene.
It had to go to somebody so unfortunately there had to be someone going home without the belt, but I think this is one of those that really could have been decided either way with minimal protest either side.
One left with the belt but nobody lost here.
"Swing and put him to sleep. Like hypnosis"
Its even better than that he said "watch- swing and put him to sleep like hypnosis" be amazing if he didnt use it one me bro 😂
What a battle 🔥🔥 well done Viz! Can't call it either way its splitting hairs
2-1 Viz, Rapthors 3rd was mental
Best irish battle I've seen by far tbh. 2-1 Viz with Rapthor taking the 2nd.
Viz edged this. Incredible battle
1st round was close but I edged Rapthor based on his narrative.
2nd round to me was clear Rapthor - Viz was button bashing a bit
3rd round was close as shit. I can’t call it but I think Rapthor had it in the bag by then. Can’t be super mad as Viz did his thing too but this the best I saw Rapthor
Thank you bro
👍B🔥A🆚R🔥Z👍 Dope Battle, Props To Both Contenders. 💯
Rapthor ain’t never rapped that good before, he took that, possibly even 3-0. I’ll need to rewatch but I don’t know how Viz was given round 3. Briggzy probably the realest guy in UKBR but it’s a bit odd having him judge a title match in his league with a guy that runs the whole PB Irish scene vs a guy that was rapping against the league at times.
(Briggz) I literally stepped in because nobody else would - I try avoid judging anything on Prem for this reason. But yeah the 5 judges were the only ones willing to do it.
@@PremierBattlesyeah I thought that might’ve happened, mate. I don’t envy you because fundamentally, the judging is so difficult to do at a BR event. Either way, Viz killed it as well so it’s definitely nothing to lose sleep over, as some “fans” seem to think it is 😂
It's mad how subjective this shit actually is.
For me both in the room and on vid I had the 3rd being Vizs round no question .
In the room I had 1 and 2 on rapthor no questions but watching back the first is debatable
Got round to watching this now. Easy see why it's contentious. Feel Rapthor took that handy wonderfully written verses with a variety of cadences and flows. His material had more interesting reference points. Crowd were hyping him in annoying way at times causing stop/start bits but otherwise it's pretty perfect. Viz was grand but he's had better rounds and his vocal fry delivery style and setup punch writing can seem a bit one dimensional vs someone rapping this well.
This is great
Dude talking bout his giving his dad cpr brought a tear to my eye. Battle rappers in the USA still need Justice for Charlie.
2-1 Viz for me, great title match!!
Rapthor 2-1
Very close battle, both worthy champs.
The reaction to the decision says a lot regardless of it being in Dublin
Yes. It says that some people shouldn't drink in public.
2-1 Viz for me and a great battle.
What a battle that is ! 🔥 I can't call it its so close maybe viz 2-1? 🤔 best I've ever seen rapthor though I thort he was class , some of viz's 👊 in this are quality though
Someone please take that belt and give it to raptor he absolutely boded the kid what a robbery
Hah! Don't know what the tickets costed. But, Rapthor's facial expression after the decision... priceless.
Unreal battle, Rapthor was really on it but I just think Viz was a diff level today! 2-1 to Viz, great to see the talent in ireland going at it 🔥
Finally watched the battle back,
Viz 2-1.
the crowd doesn't decide your championship fate, the judges do.
🤷♂️
Now you see how Im an adult and handle differing opinions bro ? Thats what you shoulda done with Academy. Carry yourself knowing everyones gonna have an opinion n you'll be laughing. Where you went and done a whole angle just because I believed others performed better at the try outs. So I hope in me being this way that you can learn from that and apply it to your own personal development young man
And therein the problem lies.
If battlers turn up to perform at their absolute best, then the choice of judges should be picked to reflect that.
The reason for the upset wasn't just based on stumbles from Viz but also the fact that the owner of the league judged Viz, who also runs the league.
Precarious and questionable, to say the least.
Still.. Viz had a phenomenonal performance and is highly respected for all the hard work he did for the scene.
I don't see how this is a debate. No hate but Viz got bodied. Loads of random mid similies that weren't direct. Stumbles too. He didn't take a single round. I'm a big fan of Viz but he just did not win this
Wowww viz's first is bonkers
From the first round from both, the quality was high. I reckon Viz took the first, but it was a good back and forth. First time really watching Rapthor, he's charismatic, good stage presence. Really good Irish title match though, strong performances from both. Good vibe. 3-2 split decision on the judges vote. Could have gone either way. Tough one.
I think what briggzy said about how vizual kept at his neck was pretty accurate, i sensed the judges maybe werent feeling rapthor going off on one about english judges and the whole patriotic stuff i didnt feel it to, i think that maybe cost him the battle a bit as he was pretty amazing but if you get shit wrong then it holds no weight so to start off ranting about england when his opponent is irish then cuss the judges for being english which again was 4 irish fellas and one brit, all that stuff now just falls flat whereas vizual kept on him, even praised the uk guys for supporting their scene while you got rapthor banging on about how were all cunts...Even the irish fellas judging i dont think were feeling it, watched this a few times now and thought it was a great battle, judges were very very good and fair, for me...Vizual takes the W.
Had it Viz 2-1 , felt Viz was slept on aswell 🤷🏼♂️
Its obvious that Rapthor won lads , its embarrassing to think someone could be that bad of a judge to think it's anything but a straight W
Trying to watch this with 0 bias and the only debatable thing for me is did Rapthor 3-0 Viz or was it 2-1. That's to take nothing away from Viz, Rapthor was just on a different level this battle.
Viz had good bars but a lot of what he spat could have been used against anyone and was just irrelevant. I think rapthor tore viz down way more and styled on him a bit. I’d have gone 2-1 Rapthor
Rapthor 2-1
I give it 2-1 rapthor in a very close one. Classic title match. Thats what really matters.
Why'd the room go so dead 🤣 rapthor 3-0, took each round. As hard as vizual came i think rapthor edged every round
I gave it to Rapthor 2-1 Viz won the 3rd.
Do MMa fighters follow battle rappers as much?
Disputed result. Controversy leading to calls for a rematch.
I mean it's only fair to give the fans what they want right?
Great battle. Should have been Rapthor taking it 2-1.
What happened at 17:24? Good edit
People being loud in the back. Appreciate the comment on the edit 👌🏻
Congrats 🎉🎉🎉
2 both Emcees This Shyt was Crazy I wish I was There #MinnesotaNdaBuildin
#ListenBroListen I’m a Rap Person I had 1-1 goin into the 3rd Here’s the Thing You can Not Take your foot off the Gas All JOKES A SIDE when there’s MONEY ON THE FLOOR
Rapthor Jokes 1st Rd Cool
Vizual Was More Focused The whole Battle 2-1(W)
Rapthor was 🔥 shoulda won
Rapthor 2-1.
Viz got this 2-1. No matter who you give this to you’re not wrong but for me Viz edged it
If rapthor was more direct he woukd have clearly won
Listen again every sing thing was direct
Rapthor zipp3o all day
Crazy decisions like this is what ruins the battles
2-1 rapthor..viz took the 1st easy..vizuals opening about his dad in the 3rd was trying too hard to tug at big emotions with not enough of a creative pay off for it to punch at the end. Rapthor had a lot of filler..but it filled out some fuckin amazing writing. Far more creative than his opponent.. and that's why I gave rapthor a clear win in the last 2 rounds
Rapthor 1st
Rapthor 2nd
Rapthor 3rd
Fuckin robbed
#Elements❤
I had viz wining the 1st a rapthor the next 2 vis started the 3rd fire but overall rapthor had the better round
Viz 2-1
Embarrassing decision. Raptor 2-1 easy. Vizual took the 1st but that’s it really
Only the Irish!
Rapthor robbed
Viz destroyed him