Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think "cube" is a star-trek reference to the Borg. A Borg cube is a ship, and the Borg assimilate all races they come in contact with, keeping the best traits of each race and building upon them with their accumulated knowledge from multiple civilizations. While MTG now has lots of different cube variants, the original cubes were all collections of the best cards in the history of magic compiled to draft together. Much like the Borg, the MTG cube collects the best from each set, assimilating the most powerful cards and discarding everything inferior.
Anthony Craig Did you read the comment? "The ORIGINAL cubes..." were the best of the best. just because people NOW make underpowered cubes does not change that the original ones were not like this.
A few of my friends and I are putting together a Commander Cube. First you draft from a pile of potential Commanders, then you draft the remainder of the card pool. It's a really cool idea, and Commander/EDH as a format can allow you to play crazy cards that you wouldn't normally play.
Did you ever get around to it? Because I'm guessing it just got a shitload spicier this year. Also I'm planning to do the same, with the new conspiracy and unstable.
I'm doing something similar as well. I have a booster box of unstable to work from and a lot of the conspiracies. I'm just trying to work out what is the best way to go about it.
I'm a Vorthos to the very end, so when I first heard about Cube I immediately attempted to create the most flavorful Cube ever. It actually worked out really well. The cube is based around the Gods from the Theros block (since that's where most of my collection comes from), and has sub themes that fit the colors and abilities of each of the Theros Gods. But the Vorthos in me only started with that. After Conspiracy was released, I became so enthralled with the idea of multiplayer draft that I turned my cube into a draftable version of Star Magic. For anyone unfamiliar with the format, Star Magic is a 5 person casual multiplayer format where each player represents one color of magic, and a player wins by defeating both opposing colors. (For example, a person representing white would have to defeat the players representing black and red in order to win.) It's a really easy cube to build, too, since you only need enough cards for 5 people instead of 6 or 8. There are way more nuances to the cube, and whenever my friends get together they absolutely love drafting and playing it. If anyone has any questions for me about how the cube works or if you just want the decklist, feel free to contact me.
My first experience with cube was me looking at my box of old magic cards and saying to my Roommates, "Hey, you guys want to draft with these?" Since then I have refined it a bit, cut the number of Storm Crows from eleven down to one, and started trying to add some themes. Just ordered 700 sleeves. Plan to have a ton of fun in a few weeks when it's ready.
My friend did an interesting thing with his box of Modern Masters. When we first Drafted it, we wrote down the contents of each pack and our picks from subsequent packs. Then he sleeved it up into a cube and tries to get 8 different people to draft it, with all the boosters in the same positions, with the same cards in each pack, in the exact same order. The interesting thing is being able to highlight different picks made by just one person that changes the way the ENTIRE draft plays out.
The crap rare cube they were talking about reminds me of the reject rare draft myself and a group of friends did once. Essentially, everyone trolled through their binders for three packs of rares worth no more than $2 each. The cards were gathered up, shuffled together, then split up into new random packs which were handed out and subsequently drafted. It was a night of incredible madness, and the fun part was, you kept what you drafted afterwards. It as so terrible, yet such a blast!
I took the new conspiracy box, cracked all the packs without looking at them, and just had a cube from "Conspiracy". After cubing 3 times, I took out the cards I didn't like, yet made the cube into an "up to 2 of each card". This is why I love cubing (MTG and Rubik's), because there is so much freedom. I also keep all the conspiracy cards out, and we all pick them randomly, then trade. Each person also starts with a whisper gear sneak and cog work librarian face up for use during the cube, and put in cards that were wicked OP that I created myself and proxied.
I've just been making a very kitchen-table 1 drop cube with stuff from my collection. I'm thinking about throwing in some Conspiracy cards in too, just for the lols.
I built a cube around the theme of Zombies vs. Humans. Every creature in it is either a Zombie or a Human. It has all 5 colors in but is heavier in the white and black colors for obvious reasons. After you draft I assign you to a random team, Zombies or Humans and then you build your deck and play either 2HG or Emperor Zombies vs Humans. I have only had the opportunity to draft it a handful of times but every time was a blast and everyone loved it. So far the Zombies are winning over the Humans but by only 1 match up.
I'm currently trying to think up some sequence where you Totally Lost your opponent's Pack Rat, and then cast Mimeofracture on a copied Pack Rat token, so you can go dig out the original Pack Rat and put it on your side of the board, in some weird cross-Ravnica mixed-bag limited format... Seems unlikely.
Does it have to be singleton? My roomate and I are building one and we really wanted to have a Bump deck in it. I can't force Bump in the Night while drafting my cube if I can only have one bump. :(
I made an all midrange cube out of my collection and my friends love it. I'm working on slowly improving the quality of the cards and tweaking the list between every draft.
so I have an M13, M14 and M15 deckbuilder's toolkits with obviously cards I've got from packs and stuff so could I technically build a cube from the cards in there??
Doing a Peasant cube currently. Guidelines: - Same amount of cards per color - Same amount of creatures, sorceries, instants... per color - Little "weird" things, my brain produces like: -- All Guildmages -- Only 1 Split card per guild -- "Tribal" cards like all "Paragons" from M15, all "Ordeals" from Theros, all "Emissarys" from BOG -- Lands: 10 Guildgates, 10 Lifegain-Lands (KTK), 10 "Bounce-Duals", 5 Shard-Lands, 5 Khan-Lands, 5 Vivid-Lands ... Hope it turns out to be a good cube when it's finished...
Yeah, whenever i build a cube I try to get nice cycles of cards, it's a nice way to balance everything and it adds a little flavour or cohesiveness to the cube
There is actually such a thing as 'set' or 'block' cubing. Essentially you take a set or block and decide if you want to draft it. If you're using a set that's drafted in a normal 3x format (EG: 3x INN) then you take the set and your cube is 5 of each common, 3 of each uncommon, 1 of each rare and mythic. This will best approximate an actual set . If you're doing it with a block it's a little trickier but you can break it down. Usually big sets go down to 3-2-1 and little sets to 2-1-1
some friends and i put together a (proxied) legacy cube and it is fantastic. although i must say it felt wierd at first to pass things like grave titan, goblin guide and alpha duals because they arent really in your colours
My cube is an all-foil altered art permanent proxy cube! at least, it will be when it's finished. it's fully built of temporary proxies at the moment, and i trade out a chunk for permanent proxy foils every so often.
i mostly throw all the cards from sets running out of the standard format into my cube. i also seperate my cube into common, uncommon and rare and create actual 14 card boosters with 10 common, 3 uncommon and 1 rare. i don´t have the money to build the power house decks/cubes/commander decks
My friends and i wanted to try a cube to see what it was like and we threw together a bunch of cards with very little planing and it was a great time trying to figure out how to work all the cards together into a playable deck
If the souls of the faultless were to lose defender, with something like warmongers chariot, then they block with a 2/2, would you gain 2 life then lose 2 life, because you are the attacking player?
I actually have a Crap Cube, it's not nearly complete and I can only draft 3 people at a time because of my lack of cards. It started when I looked at Blood Feud and said to myself "that is a terrible card, why would anyone play with that card. I'm going to build a cube with that card around it". The only rule with the cube is that you have to show what card you got stuck with. My favorite showpiece is a Foil Haze Frog that I managed to trade for a land (sucker).
Have you ever tried this? Me and my friend built a common only cube and every time you win a game you get one point, then based on what you decide you give every key word in magic a numerical value. Then at any point not in a game you can spend points to buy an ability and put it on the card, so for example we gave bump in the night retrace and gravestorm, that was a bad idea... but let me know what you guys think and if you use it what do you think?
Me and my friends just draft a cube where i put all my old standard decks that rotate out, sure the colour balance is off but everyone is aware of that and draft acordingly.
Infiltrator's Magemark won me so many tournaments in Ravnica Standard. Also, f(x) = (x+1)^2 is quadratic growth, not exponential, just to let y'all know. The mathematician in me forced me to say that. Not many people realize the difference, it's just one of those things.
Not every cube is singleton. My playgroup and I are currently trying to build a Modern Masters cube which would include four of every common, two of every uncommon, and every mythic and rare once.
I've decided to build a non singleton cube with decks I remember from my first days of playing magic. It'll have a goblin deck, a vampire deck, an ally deck and an infect deck
MrXunholyx not the same thing at all, highlander is 100 cards singleton deck is 1vs1 format ,edh is commander is multiplayer game whit 1 commander 99 card deck
I want to make a cube that is all vanilla stuff. Vanilla creatures, basic pingers (if any), basic counterspells, basic/vanilla everything. Throw in the actual cards called Hill Giant and Grizzly Bear, just for S&Gs.
This is a link to my cube. tappedout.net/mtg-cube-drafts/budget-ish-cube/ I focus on trying to include as many high-powered cards as I can while also making it as affordable as I can. Most of the expensive cards were cards that I already had lying around (like Snapcaster Mage). I put a few cycles in there, such as guildgates and signets, but in general my mana fixing isn't that great (I'm considering splurging for like the Innistrad and M13 cycles of mana fixing lands). I have a small enchantment sub-theme, but it isn't all that huge.
I have my own powered cube, but it's currently proxied. I'm working on slowly getting it in real cards, but I'd suggest good-quality proxies as a means of testing an expensive cube and also making it much easier to bring down to the local gameshop without someone stealing several thousand pounds worth of cards or bending a mox. I spent about 6 months planning before I made anything, and I'm still changing a lot now I know what works. deckstats . net / decks/324/11250-team-mtgg-powered-cube-v1-1
Ravnica-Return to Ravnica
Guildpact-gatecrash
Dissension- Dragon's Maze
The names start with the same letters
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think "cube" is a star-trek reference to the Borg. A Borg cube is a ship, and the Borg assimilate all races they come in contact with, keeping the best traits of each race and building upon them with their accumulated knowledge from multiple civilizations. While MTG now has lots of different cube variants, the original cubes were all collections of the best cards in the history of magic compiled to draft together. Much like the Borg, the MTG cube collects the best from each set, assimilating the most powerful cards and discarding everything inferior.
Man, this is a smart idea. Love it!
You say that but I have seen homelands cubes enough said
Anthony Craig Did you read the comment? "The ORIGINAL cubes..." were the best of the best. just because people NOW make underpowered cubes does not change that the original ones were not like this.
Anthony Craig No you have not. Not one person in this world wants to relive homelands.
This is hysterical watching you guys talk your way though a future script of Friday Nights.
A few of my friends and I are putting together a Commander Cube. First you draft from a pile of potential Commanders, then you draft the remainder of the card pool. It's a really cool idea, and Commander/EDH as a format can allow you to play crazy cards that you wouldn't normally play.
100% agreed at 35:00. Sleeves often cost more than the cards themselves for pauper cubes. You need like 360 sleeves + maybe 25 for each basic land.
I'm planning on building a Conspiracy and Un- sets cube
Did you ever get around to it? Because I'm guessing it just got a shitload spicier this year.
Also I'm planning to do the same, with the new conspiracy and unstable.
I'm doing something similar as well. I have a booster box of unstable to work from and a lot of the conspiracies. I'm just trying to work out what is the best way to go about it.
"I wouldn't say tweaked it, but I added cards that should be in there, and cards from his list that I didn't like, I removed"
O.o
I'm a Vorthos to the very end, so when I first heard about Cube I immediately attempted to create the most flavorful Cube ever. It actually worked out really well. The cube is based around the Gods from the Theros block (since that's where most of my collection comes from), and has sub themes that fit the colors and abilities of each of the Theros Gods.
But the Vorthos in me only started with that. After Conspiracy was released, I became so enthralled with the idea of multiplayer draft that I turned my cube into a draftable version of Star Magic. For anyone unfamiliar with the format, Star Magic is a 5 person casual multiplayer format where each player represents one color of magic, and a player wins by defeating both opposing colors. (For example, a person representing white would have to defeat the players representing black and red in order to win.) It's a really easy cube to build, too, since you only need enough cards for 5 people instead of 6 or 8.
There are way more nuances to the cube, and whenever my friends get together they absolutely love drafting and playing it. If anyone has any questions for me about how the cube works or if you just want the decklist, feel free to contact me.
Dude! I'd love to check out your Cube. I've never heard of Star Magic.
I can't watch this yet but I'm looking forward to it! I have a pauper cube that I am almost finished. I very interested in what you guys have to say.
My first experience with cube was me looking at my box of old magic cards and saying to my Roommates, "Hey, you guys want to draft with these?" Since then I have refined it a bit, cut the number of Storm Crows from eleven down to one, and started trying to add some themes. Just ordered 700 sleeves. Plan to have a ton of fun in a few weeks when it's ready.
My friend did an interesting thing with his box of Modern Masters. When we first Drafted it, we wrote down the contents of each pack and our picks from subsequent packs. Then he sleeved it up into a cube and tries to get 8 different people to draft it, with all the boosters in the same positions, with the same cards in each pack, in the exact same order. The interesting thing is being able to highlight different picks made by just one person that changes the way the ENTIRE draft plays out.
Planning on making an Innistrad cube.
what did Paul think the colors for Golgari were? XD
can you release the cube list james?
5:45 There is also a 7/6 wurm in gatecrash for just 1 more (ruination wurm)
The crap rare cube they were talking about reminds me of the reject rare draft myself and a group of friends did once. Essentially, everyone trolled through their binders for three packs of rares worth no more than $2 each. The cards were gathered up, shuffled together, then split up into new random packs which were handed out and subsequently drafted. It was a night of incredible madness, and the fun part was, you kept what you drafted afterwards. It as so terrible, yet such a blast!
Can confirm the fun I've had building and drafting my unplayable cube where every card has a potentially game ending downside
Powered Cube is so much fun it is amazing in every way. Lotus and mox pearl into mind sculptor. Those words are amazing to say.
35:25 "They used to be much cheaper"
"So pricey now, and they're only gonna go up"
*How little did they know*
I took the new conspiracy box, cracked all the packs without looking at them, and just had a cube from "Conspiracy". After cubing 3 times, I took out the cards I didn't like, yet made the cube into an "up to 2 of each card". This is why I love cubing (MTG and Rubik's), because there is so much freedom. I also keep all the conspiracy cards out, and we all pick them randomly, then trade. Each person also starts with a whisper gear sneak and cog work librarian face up for use during the cube, and put in cards that were wicked OP that I created myself and proxied.
No common mana-fixing lands in the Guildpact? Orzhov Basilica, Izzet Boilerworks, and Gruul Turf would like a word with you. Karoos gogo!
My store recently did DGR draft and i went in aiming for Izzet and my first pick was Nivix Cyclops. I grabbed armed as well lol
I've just been making a very kitchen-table 1 drop cube with stuff from my collection. I'm thinking about throwing in some Conspiracy cards in too, just for the lols.
I built a cube around the theme of Zombies vs. Humans. Every creature in it is either a Zombie or a Human. It has all 5 colors in but is heavier in the white and black colors for obvious reasons. After you draft I assign you to a random team, Zombies or Humans and then you build your deck and play either 2HG or Emperor Zombies vs Humans. I have only had the opportunity to draft it a handful of times but every time was a blast and everyone loved it. So far the Zombies are winning over the Humans but by only 1 match up.
is there a list for your pauper cube somewhere?
I'm currently trying to think up some sequence where you Totally Lost your opponent's Pack Rat, and then cast Mimeofracture on a copied Pack Rat token, so you can go dig out the original Pack Rat and put it on your side of the board, in some weird cross-Ravnica mixed-bag limited format... Seems unlikely.
Does it have to be singleton? My roomate and I are building one and we really wanted to have a Bump deck in it. I can't force Bump in the Night while drafting my cube if I can only have one bump. :(
I made an all midrange cube out of my collection and my friends love it. I'm working on slowly improving the quality of the cards and tweaking the list between every draft.
so I have an M13, M14 and M15 deckbuilder's toolkits with obviously cards I've got from packs and stuff so could I technically build a cube from the cards in there??
do you have a list of your cube somewhere?
Doing a Peasant cube currently.
Guidelines:
- Same amount of cards per color
- Same amount of creatures, sorceries, instants... per color
- Little "weird" things, my brain produces like:
-- All Guildmages
-- Only 1 Split card per guild
-- "Tribal" cards like all "Paragons" from M15, all "Ordeals" from Theros, all "Emissarys" from BOG
-- Lands: 10 Guildgates, 10 Lifegain-Lands (KTK), 10 "Bounce-Duals", 5 Shard-Lands, 5 Khan-Lands, 5 Vivid-Lands
...
Hope it turns out to be a good cube when it's finished...
By "tribal" you meant cycles?
Yes, cycles. I couldn't find the right word.
Yeah, whenever i build a cube I try to get nice cycles of cards, it's a nice way to balance everything and it adds a little flavour or cohesiveness to the cube
AngryMidgetProd Exactly. And of course everyone gets the chance to draw something of a cycle.
I think you should call it the Marxist cube because all colors are equal
What makes a "Cube" a "popper" cube. It's possible I missed that part, but I didn't hear what "popper" meant for MTG cubes.
do you put lands in the cube?
There is actually such a thing as 'set' or 'block' cubing. Essentially you take a set or block and decide if you want to draft it. If you're using a set that's drafted in a normal 3x format (EG: 3x INN) then you take the set and your cube is 5 of each common, 3 of each uncommon, 1 of each rare and mythic. This will best approximate an actual set
. If you're doing it with a block it's a little trickier but you can break it down. Usually big sets go down to 3-2-1 and little sets to 2-1-1
after i watched this i decided to make my own cube it will be a tribal cube
doing a random cubelet, has posibility storm and goblin game for lols with progenitus and door to nothingness as a windmill slam. thoughts?
Get un-cards in there, as well as hidden agendas and cogwork cards - hilarious draft experience
I have a pauper cube myself and I can testify that the sleeves were the most expensive part, and I bought them in bulk.
Great stuff, as always.
some friends and i put together a (proxied) legacy cube and it is fantastic. although i must say it felt wierd at first to pass things like grave titan, goblin guide and alpha duals because they arent really in your colours
Yep, building a cube tomorrow. Thanks for the extra push!
Where is the link to the cube :( ?
I made a Ravnica: Old and New Pheasant Cube. Still have not play tested it thoroughly yet, but it should be fun.
My cube is an all-foil altered art permanent proxy cube! at least, it will be when it's finished. it's fully built of temporary proxies at the moment, and i trade out a chunk for permanent proxy foils every so often.
It seems like the audio was a bit low. Had to turn up my speakers
i mostly throw all the cards from sets running out of the standard format into my cube. i also seperate my cube into common, uncommon and rare and create actual 14 card boosters with 10 common, 3 uncommon and 1 rare. i don´t have the money to build the power house decks/cubes/commander decks
My friends and i wanted to try a cube to see what it was like and we threw together a bunch of cards with very little planing and it was a great time trying to figure out how to work all the cards together into a playable deck
i made a innistrad block proxied cube its in its early stages but it looks fun
I made a sick all rare/mythic cube, it had a lot of crap rares but most were decent, the hardest part was getting the lands the cube needed.
If the souls of the faultless were to lose defender, with something like warmongers chariot, then they block with a 2/2, would you gain 2 life then lose 2 life, because you are the attacking player?
I actually have a Crap Cube, it's not nearly complete and I can only draft 3 people at a time because of my lack of cards. It started when I looked at Blood Feud and said to myself "that is a terrible card, why would anyone play with that card. I'm going to build a cube with that card around it". The only rule with the cube is that you have to show what card you got stuck with. My favorite showpiece is a Foil Haze Frog that I managed to trade for a land (sucker).
Have you ever tried this? Me and my friend built a common only cube and every time you win a game you get one point, then based on what you decide you give every key word in magic a numerical value. Then at any point not in a game you can spend points to buy an ability and put it on the card, so for example we gave bump in the night retrace and gravestorm, that was a bad idea... but let me know what you guys think and if you use it what do you think?
yay l was made very happy by surprise Alex! he is my favorite!!!
Dirt rare cube? Sounds familiar. They should back-draft that.
Me and my friends just draft a cube where i put all my old standard decks that rotate out, sure the colour balance is off but everyone is aware of that and draft acordingly.
Infiltrator's Magemark won me so many tournaments in Ravnica Standard.
Also, f(x) = (x+1)^2 is quadratic growth, not exponential, just to let y'all know. The mathematician in me forced me to say that. Not many people realize the difference, it's just one of those things.
souls of the fault less is AMAZING
i love it so much
Not every cube is singleton. My playgroup and I are currently trying to build a Modern Masters cube which would include four of every common, two of every uncommon, and every mythic and rare once.
I've decided to build a non singleton cube with decks I remember from my first days of playing magic. It'll have a goblin deck, a vampire deck, an ally deck and an infect deck
Highlander? Could anybody explain?
"There can only be one"
highlander = edh = commander
MrXunholyx not the same thing at all, highlander is 100 cards singleton deck is 1vs1 format ,edh is commander is multiplayer game whit 1 commander 99 card deck
my bad but yopu can see the similarity both 100 card singleton decks just one has a commander i have played edh 1v1 before
I like this idea a lot, could be interesting.
OMG! cube sounds awsome!!! im gonna build a peasent RTR block cube right now :)
JESUS I wish my friends played magic. This sounds so fun!
Alex serious!? *high pitch* AWESOME!
I used to play in a cube with a friend who'd built his to be pretty much entirely out of Unglued and Unhinged, except for six Phelddagrifs.
I'm building a ravnica themed cube it's going to have old and new ravnica in it
Runeboggle is like Exclude, but worse. I like the idea of an Unhinged/Unglued cube xD
The video froze on 14:43 without me noticing it, I sat there thinking "oh wow, they are really thinking about it"
I want to make a cube that is all vanilla stuff. Vanilla creatures, basic pingers (if any), basic counterspells, basic/vanilla everything. Throw in the actual cards called Hill Giant and Grizzly Bear, just for S&Gs.
i seriously want to try a 1 drop cube now lol
Forced Spike, Mana Tithe, counters you were thinking of
10 minutes in, and they haven't spoken about cubes yet. when does that happen?
Most weeks XD
I think I speak for a lot of people here... we want a link to James' cube :P
it's only just hit me: magic cards come in blocks. and from those blocks you can make a CUBE
Guilded cube being built
I'm thinking of making a tribal based cube
This is a link to my cube.
tappedout.net/mtg-cube-drafts/budget-ish-cube/
I focus on trying to include as many high-powered cards as I can while also making it as affordable as I can. Most of the expensive cards were cards that I already had lying around (like Snapcaster Mage). I put a few cycles in there, such as guildgates and signets, but in general my mana fixing isn't that great (I'm considering splurging for like the Innistrad and M13 cycles of mana fixing lands).
I have a small enchantment sub-theme, but it isn't all that huge.
I have my own powered cube, but it's currently proxied. I'm working on slowly getting it in real cards, but I'd suggest good-quality proxies as a means of testing an expensive cube and also making it much easier to bring down to the local gameshop without someone stealing several thousand pounds worth of cards or bending a mox. I spent about 6 months planning before I made anything, and I'm still changing a lot now I know what works.
deckstats . net / decks/324/11250-team-mtgg-powered-cube-v1-1
Ooh...I think I'll make a tribal cube...something weird like Goblins vs. Spirits...
Ravnica did have the Karoo lands at common
Awsome!
"I want 30 mountains for this deck"
Why did we even put Countryside Crusher in this cube...
Oh Magemarks they were so busted lol well at least a few of them were blue being one of them.
i have a peasant cube and about to start sleeving up lands soon no promises
i made a cube with my fav legacy cards, i called it legacy masters
Infiltrators mage mark I always thought was fun to drop on an enemies creature.
makes it rather funny.
yeah the brothers today!
"Worst cards in magic cube" - I believe it's called a sphere. =D
Sorry, "Pauper", as in someone who is poor. A Pauper Cube only has commons.
my friend and I are making a commander cube. draft a 100 card deck!
Do you bring your own commander, or draft them separately?
09:00 ish: Your theoretical Magemark is almost Beastmaster's Magemark...
No it doesn't. It just means that Bump in the night would be a common. Singleton works best though
Shitty common cube lets go
You guys need to talk louder or turn up the audio.
Alex has Flash. That's why he's not allowed around kindergartens anymore.
Mimeofacture too OP for EDH XD
You guys should really just play an actual game of Magic and film it. It can be Commander or Highlander or anything.
I'd watch it.
I have a Unpowered cube with My old cards from my old Extended decks it's my Extended Super Stars Cube :D
TTC = Today's Totally Complete.
well i built a rubish cube, gonna test it today :)
44:18 sorry Alex that's a square
Anyone here play type 4? Can be so crazy...got to love it