To be honest, I have had a 8100, 8280 and 8200 (keeping the 8200). But I've never found them to be unreliable. I've had more trouble with tube amps than these hybrid beasts. Chuck forever. 🖤
Very helpful review and demonstration! Small correction: There’s not a ton of Valvestates around because they were never very popular! One of their main uses was touring as they proved to be much more reliable than the JCMs many were using. Still it’s an amp that never got a lot of shine until Chuck staunchly endorsed them.
I had a valve state years ago with no issues. I remember seeing White Zombie on tour with Prong one year and the Prong guy has tons of Valvestate stacks.....
Actually they're not. It was a zoom pedal creating the distortion into the valvestate poweramp. Like saying someone playing a amptweaker tight metal through a princeton got their brutal metal sound from a princeton. They didn't. They quickly switched to the ampeg vh140c that suits the suffocation sound better, 8100 is a great amp but isn't right for their sound.
I bought an 8080 new in 1995, still have it. Just had to replace a capacitor in 2005 (I think), and that's it. I still love it, but yeah it's best for metal or anything 80s onwards
Well there is original Transtube distortion Dirty Dog by Peavey And then there is Pepers' Pedals PV Fury 158 Distortion And Master Effects does Marauder (bluestripe bandit in a box)
Master Effects actually makes that too. It's called "Marauder". It's the Blue-Stripe Bandit preamp, and it's glorious! I have a rock demo of it on my channel, and I'm working on a metal demo right now.
Used to own the marshall 50w valvestate combo. Great sounding amp. Super fragile though. Went through 5 of them breaking in transit before gof a good one
All solid-state? No it has was a hybrid with a single 12ax7 tube in the pre, and that is what dies on you after a few months. Happened to me too. Got mine as soon as they came out and it dies shortly after, but that was a super cheap fix in amp terms.
Man....I want a distortion pedal that will literally throw the earth off its axis and send it spiralling into the void. I'm running a metal zone into my 65 watt laney bass amp but I want MOAR.
Jus a quick correction, Valvestate amps weren't all solid state. The 8100 had a velve in the preamp, the power section was solid state. And they waren't that unreliable. Know a guy that's been playin one for at least 20 years. The shell of the amp its all destroyed from people stomping it/spilling drinks/leave cigarretes on top of it/etc. It has a busted knob but apart from that is still works.
Hey reamp box. You still stand behind the radial JCR? Or is there a better device by now? I figured out a whole lot of live effect stuff in Ableton and I want to get it into my amp
Hey Fluff, I have an unrelated signal chain question - did you put the Maxon before the Martyr in the loop, or run it into the amp input? (Can’t tell if it’s the same patch cable)
I don't think he put it in the loop; he bypassed the Jubilee"s preamp section by running into the effects return/ power amp input. So 808, Martyr, power section.
A bit late, but Master Effects now makes a VH140C pedal. Seems a bit funky bass wise though. There is another on the market that seems a bit better. I forget the name but you can find it on youtube.
The tube in the original 8100 is replaced with two transistors in the pedal. The tube in the original amp was essentially a buffer and didn't really do anything to the tone. The majority of the distortion comes from LED clipping diodes.
you could, but the amp is big, heavy, loud, and unreliable (almost 30 years old) while this fits in the palm of your hand and integrates with your current rig.
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To be honest, I have had a 8100, 8280 and 8200 (keeping the 8200). But I've never found them to be unreliable. I've had more trouble with tube amps than these hybrid beasts.
Chuck forever. 🖤
well i guess everyone made it up
Death fans where are you?
Right here my guy!
Here! Better late than pregnant.
Hereeee! 🤘
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It's great to see a local Calgary builder on the channel!
Very helpful review and demonstration! Small correction: There’s not a ton of Valvestates around because they were never very popular! One of their main uses was touring as they proved to be much more reliable than the JCMs many were using. Still it’s an amp that never got a lot of shine until Chuck staunchly endorsed them.
I had a valve state years ago with no issues. I remember seeing White Zombie on tour with Prong one year and the Prong guy has tons of Valvestate stacks.....
Guitars on Suffocation's Pierced From Within was an 8100 - doesn't get any more brutal than that
And later used the awesome VH140C. Both run shit for that 90s death metal sound.
Cool, I did not know that. Very brutal album!
Actually they're not. It was a zoom pedal creating the distortion into the valvestate poweramp. Like saying someone playing a amptweaker tight metal through a princeton got their brutal metal sound from a princeton. They didn't.
They quickly switched to the ampeg vh140c that suits the suffocation sound better, 8100 is a great amp but isn't right for their sound.
@@colelewis9940 wrong
@@aegisraven1284 Nope
I have three Valvestates that are still running like brand new. So they weren't that unreliable.
Now for someone to run an HM-2 into it...
Master Effects also makes a Peavey Bandit preamp pedal that is the key to that Swede Death mixed with the HM-2.
@@Defleshuary Not the particular Swedish tone I'm looking for but yes.
@@jrockkai they make an HM-2 as well.
I have a Marshall 8100 that has served for 30 years, serviced only once as I was told by the former owner, they are not unreliable.
I like 8100, and I use it everywhere for different styles, cool amp )))
My first “real” amp was a Marshall Valvestate 40W 1x12 combo (with a DOD Grunge pedal and a DOD chorus). Served me well for about a decade.
I bought an 8080 new in 1995, still have it. Just had to replace a capacitor in 2005 (I think), and that's it. I still love it, but yeah it's best for metal or anything 80s onwards
Sounds good. I have their "marauder" which is based on the peavey bandit and sounds pretty good
Yes! I was so pleasantly surprised at how modern it sounds! You'd think it was a 5150! and the active EQ is WAY more powerful than anything on a 5150.
@@MasterEffectsPedals I got it after seeing gord olsens video, I didn't know what it was but it sounded pretty good
The Maxon with the Marshall tone is a classic !
I don't play much guitar anymore but still can't part with my 8100 half stack I bought in 1995. Pretty cool pedal.
Awesome playing as always, fluff!
That first mode sounds like 90's/00's Bad Religion in a box. Pretty cool.
Yeah he played the American Jesus riff
Sounds great man. Happy Friday.
Love hearing all the Dragged Under riffs in your gear demos! 🤘🏻
Would you ever demo the jcm800 20w studio? I've been thinking about getting into the 15-25w tube head world, and that's one that has my eye!
I bought an 8080 combo new in 1995 and it’s still going...
How about a Peavey bandit in a box
Well there is original Transtube distortion Dirty Dog by Peavey
And then there is Pepers' Pedals PV Fury 158 Distortion
And Master Effects does Marauder (bluestripe bandit in a box)
Master Effects actually makes that too. It's called "Marauder". It's the Blue-Stripe Bandit preamp, and it's glorious! I have a rock demo of it on my channel, and I'm working on a metal demo right now.
the name is perfect for it
impressed sound effects
My 8080 is still banging :)
The only trouble I've ever had with my 8100 was the reverb dying. *knocks on wood
I got one brand new, and still have it and use it.
Flufffff u the man
Used to own the marshall 50w valvestate combo. Great sounding amp. Super fragile though. Went through 5 of them breaking in transit before gof a good one
IDK but may I have problem. I think it makes your tube amp sounds like solidstate drive.
All solid-state? No it has was a hybrid with a single 12ax7 tube in the pre, and that is what dies on you after a few months. Happened to me too. Got mine as soon as they came out and it dies shortly after, but that was a super cheap fix in amp terms.
there are plenty of used marshal valvestate amps for sale here in the uk.
Not many 8100s though sadly
Man....I want a distortion pedal that will literally throw the earth off its axis and send it spiralling into the void. I'm running a metal zone into my 65 watt laney bass amp but I want MOAR.
i had a 12" valvestate combo back in '99, good amp, but mine had issues with the input jack, lots of cord jiggling for me to get it right
Jus a quick correction, Valvestate amps weren't all solid state.
The 8100 had a velve in the preamp, the power section was solid state.
And they waren't that unreliable.
Know a guy that's been playin one for at least 20 years.
The shell of the amp its all destroyed from people stomping it/spilling drinks/leave cigarretes on top of it/etc.
It has a busted knob but apart from that is still works.
Fat Wreck Chords!
Should I count myself lucky for having a vs100 and avt150? Doubt it tbh
I love my VS 8100
Static X in a box
Yow Bruce. A Maxon OD or a fortin 33 for dual rectifier played by an E tuning thrasher ?
#Yelp
Hey reamp box.
You still stand behind the radial JCR?
Or is there a better device by now?
I figured out a whole lot of live effect stuff in Ableton and I want to get it into my amp
Are there contour pedals out there?
Hey Fluff, I have an unrelated signal chain question - did you put the Maxon before the Martyr in the loop, or run it into the amp input? (Can’t tell if it’s the same patch cable)
I don't think he put it in the loop; he bypassed the Jubilee"s preamp section by running into the effects return/ power amp input. So 808, Martyr, power section.
Now we just need an Ampeg VH140C pedal.
A bit late, but Master Effects now makes a VH140C pedal. Seems a bit funky bass wise though. There is another on the market that seems a bit better. I forget the name but you can find it on youtube.
FAT!! Nice distortion👍
But the valvestates have a tube on the circuit board. Is there a 12ax7 in the stomp box?.
The tube is just gimmick and it does nothing. The circuit can be modded to bypass it with no tone alteration.
@@GugaRamone thanks. Wasn't sure how it worked.
The tube in the original 8100 is replaced with two transistors in the pedal. The tube in the original amp was essentially a buffer and didn't really do anything to the tone. The majority of the distortion comes from LED clipping diodes.
When can I get my Crate GFX in a box?
Master Effects Misanthrope.
I want to hear John Browne get his hands on this!!
So is anybody making a Marshall Mode in a box yet? 😂
a couple hundi to remember what ya did not like about the 8100... mmm o.k
@Northern Dirt 😅
i got the real amp head for much less 💰😂
Why the hell would anyone want the sound of a valvestate
You wish you could sound a millionth as good as Chuck Schuldiner or Billy Gibbons, what you just said proves your a pathetic loser!
@@jamdalf4343 👍🏻😘
@@jamdalf4343 Chuck wasn’t great because of his guitar tone he was great because he was a kick ass musician though
Because of the very reasons he discusses at the beginning of this video
8100 Valvestate are $100 used.
Only if you buy it local. Online they go for close to $400
Nice Fat shirt!
you can probably get an actual 8100 for that money
you could, but the amp is big, heavy, loud, and unreliable (almost 30 years old) while this fits in the palm of your hand and integrates with your current rig.
@@MasterEffectsPedals thats true. also i'm not saying your pedal is expensive. im saying these amps have gone extremely cheap
Sounds like what it is, a stiff distortion pedal.
Turn the gain max before putting a stupid overdrive !
I had higher hopes for this. Super underwhelming.