The Marshall Valvestate 8100 still rules!
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do you have any idea how many people are trying to solo over your riffs?
wait.
is it just me?
fuck
ah well.
*returns to quest for mesa 400+ and Rivera stereo monsters*
Also thank you for content, we're bored but it's so much LONGER than usual. :-)
Hope everyone is okay where you are at - Hello from Portland Oregon...please come visit later for food, drink, and musical campfire conversations in various settings.
Thank you for seeing us. :-)
John,I have watched quite a few of your videos here and each time I must say your playing blows me away..your ability to just keep coming up with badass riffs that even after me playing over 30 years I would dream being able to play like that...also yes these older 8100 and other Valvestates from that time frame still rock !
Just bought one today after looking for years.
John is the only gear TH-camr where I watch even if I'm not interested in the gear...just because I love his playing.
same here
Same man😂
I watch him and Rabea for the same reason.
Same here
He is the best
Same here.
You buy it for the Death. Melted my heart lol
This guy looks like “Pre” Malone
You sound like a guy trying to get into a reddit compilation
@@dcdanger7597 you seem to know a lot about reddit. lame.
😂🤣
KEKW
Literally the first time i've not heard the valvestate sound like an underwater can of bees
Marshall mode four is an amazing sleeper amp. Amp 1 on it is like a more refined 8100. Boosted it is unbelievable.
I heard the cabs are good too.
I've had an 8100 since 1993 and I still caress it each day. The pots really do get sticky and noisy, but its only happened once and a guitar tech buddy fixed it in afternoon. I play a '77 Les Paul Custom through a Hughes and Kettner 4x12 and its bliss.
It made me laugh very hard when you suddenly started playing the Papa Roach riff out of nowhere at 8:25
let the man live damn
Suchhh a sick riff
Love me some papa roach
Hi! We opened for Monuments in Bahía Blanca, Argentina last year. I used a Valvestate on that show and you we're really cool and saw a part of our show and then talked for almost half and hour about this amp on the backstage. Had a blast I because never thought you would dig it lol. It was a pleasure to talk with you sir! You are more than welcome to hear our stuff. Cheers! Guitarist/singer Diego :)
I was there too
His obviously not impressed with yur shit?🤣🤣😂
This guy is an absolute beast and a testament to how great players can get a lot from all types of gear.
I had an 8100 20 years ago and loved it. It blew up on the road and I have been wanting another one ever since. Good to see you backing this gem!
Damn Mr Browne,
That brought back a lot of memories! I bought the 8100 used from a buddy back in the day. Played a lot of shows with it never let me down. Wish I still had it.
Great playing as always!!!
A friend of mine picked up the combo version of this amp at a garage sale for $25. No matter how much I offer for it, he won’t sell it to me. The dude doesn’t even play guitar, he just uses it for a decoration.
Tell him you buy the interior. Take the guts and put empty pot knobs on it. Or a front plate instead the amp.
I got one new in 1994 and it was the only amp I had up until not too long ago. It definitely got no love except for some bands that used it, most called it junk and I felt insecure because I didnt have a full tube amp. In 2020 its considered a classic and motivates me to do some service on mine (caps). Also it turns out its a similar process getting my tone on any amp.. edit: with the modern high brow djenty sound he's got going on here it sounds ass like everything else these days
@@troopin Same for me. I also got VS in the middle 90s and have been my main amp ever since (some years i wasnt playing in a band, some occasions i been using others too). I have toured with my last band for near 8 years with that. I have encountered people who made jokes about it, and others who came to tell me how much they love those amps. I have played at shows where other bands could carry their expensive big full tube amps or their crappy cheap amps. The Valvestate never dissapointed, always delivered, always a maybe defeatable but undeniable good tone and volume. I know some great musicians that use them as well. I will never be ashamed of my VS. I dont care about the people joking on them.
@@search895 Yeah, I was just sick of it thinking the grass is greener. I have a dsl1hr and that preamp gain just isn't the same.. sounds good in its own way. On my VS I run the contour all the way off and the treble up, eq in the loop to tailor the mids. If the contour is up the treble needs to be way down or off. Knowing how to dial it goes a long way
@@troopin Most of the time i been using a V8080 for punk rock and hardcore punk. Most of the time i set the eq near 12 o'clock with a very slight bass cut and very slight mid and treble boost. Contour at its middle or a little more. I experimented with some pedals pre and post preamp but it usually sounds better on its own. I prefer to use it plugged into a cab than its original factory speaker, which is a celestion g12t. But when you plug it into v30s, it is great. In most of the rehearshals and shows i set the volume at the middle or less.
I'm always amazed when I watch you play. Beautiful chords and melodies and so tight!
I've always wanted to try one of these. Sounds great!!!
I bought my 8100 new in 1994. It needs a service so it's temporarily retired, but I friggin love it. You used the contour knob more in this video than I have in 26 years 😆 mostly maxed out for thrash! Back it off slightly for lead.
Oh my word this gave me flashbacks to every rehearsal room in london from like 10-12 year ago, so much nostalgia from that tone
Amp sounds nice and thick but your riffs are also making that amp sound incredible. You're playing accentuates the amp in a very positive way. Im really enjoying hearing you play.
Sold on getting one now thank you sir your clarity is amazing
A blast from the past! This amp has been the first amplifier I bought when I got my first job.
It still sounds pretty good.
Good job John!
Just stumbled on this by accident, killer playing man! I really dig that guitar too!!! I have a ton of different amps in my studio and but for my live rig, its always been Marshall. My first one I think was a Mosfet 100. I just went Marshall at that point. The biggest benefit is you can turn all the knobs to 12 o'clock in a rush and they always sound really solid. Nothing else cuts through the mix like my Marshall's. I'm currently using 2 30th Anniversary heads, yes the blue ones with EL34s, one sounds killer and the other really good but is mainly in a case as a back up. Keep rocking and look forward to checking out more of your vids!!!
There was an 8100 that came on the used market in my area. This video is the reason why I bought it. So far this thing is exactly what I’m looking for. I noticed that the OD2 Channel is pretty noisy with my passive pick ups. I added an ISP Decimator noise gate in the FX loop and the amp is super quiet when the guitar is not being played. It is important to note that the amp is very quiet when I plugged in the Fishman Fluence equipped guitar without using the noise gate pedal. Now I need to get some Celestion Vintage 30 in my cab to get to get that nice percussive tone. Thanks again for making this video!
Great video! I still remember this one local band back it 2006. They’ve had one guitar player and he played two of these. That was so amazing 🤘💪
Dude just plays from an angle that I've never seen!! Keep killing it John! I need "Monuments in the Morning" like I need my coffee!
Your use of 9th chords is absolutely beautiful 🔥🔥
Love the video! I've got that head as well, got it along with a 1960 4x12 cab. Was almost exclusively into metal back then but ending up using it for my cover band gigs for almost 8 years along with different humbucker guitars and an MXR M77 - it never let me down and even though I'm more into single coils, cleaner sounds these days, I'll never be parting from it. Love your playing! cheers from Austria
you have such a cool style of playing, awesome demo. Thanks for sharing!
Noice work! I've two different version of these heads from the early 90's. They punch & scream.... sooo underrated.
FYI: Tommy Victor used one of these on PRONG's epic 'CLEANSING' Album.
Marshall is one of my top favorite amps,sounds really good! You got a new subscriber,nice job man
🤘
John this is absolutely one of the best sounding amps you've reviewed ultimately. Its so tight and full at the same time.
You need to do a cover of Death “Flattening of Emotions” with that Valvestate head! 🤘🏾
Dude could downpick the intro no problem lol
I’ve still got a valvestate 8080 combo, currently at my Dads. I need to go and dig that thing out and have a new play through it. Always loved it.
I have 3 of these in the studio. An 8080 1x12 Combo, An 8100 and also the later model VS100 which is still very killer boosted. They stay nice and tight. I have the power section of the VS100 bypassed and am strictly using it as a preamp into a Fryette PS-100. Fucking killer sounding rig! Marshall did it right with these amps and they are sleepers for sure!
Still have mine, love it. It's insane how it can sound with a decent overdrive.
I’ve been waiting for this one! They’re not just great “for a solid state amp” they’re great full stop! And it didn’t disappoint here either!
After trying so many amps and amp sims it was so funny and I was laughing when I played through one and I got the clarity I wanted. Every note is clear and punchy. I got one immediately. I couldn't believe it, I mean this amp is so versatile. Probably because it has been used in the studio for so many albums by many artists. I was kinda thinking I was getting BFMV tones while they use 6505s.
This sound way better than I thought it would and I love the Papa Roach riff you threw in there.
sounds great !
I picked up this amp from a local guy who didn’t know what he had… I threw in a fresh 12ax7 and built a custom 4 ohm speaker cab for it. With a dyna drive pedal in front of it, it is one of the best sounding amps i’ve ever played. The full-chord clarity you can get at high gain settings is unparalleled! 🤘
Man. U have a very distinct style to your playing. Its killer. Thanks
Amazing amp! I have one of these and I love it!!! Great playing, greetings from Chile!!!
Hands down my favorite guitar player on YT. Cheers from Raleigh, NC 🤘🏼🍻
Such great playing!
ahhh man... I had one of those way back when. With the right cab, for the right music - these things slay. Hope you're good. G
Legendary amp! One of the best solid state(/hybrid) amps ever made.
Hey John, thanks for showing that this amp actually has some really nice tones.
Much of it is in the contour control definitely.
Oh boy, me and the other guitarist in our band both started with this exact head...sounded pretty good and superlight to carry around. We switched to tubes after about a year......memories 🥰
Not sure if it was your right hand, the tone, the hardware but... Everything Sounded amazing !!
Marshall Lead 12 80's run, Valvestate 100, GK250 ML/RL and Randall RG80/100, all the sounds of the 80's. Throw in the Peavey XXL which came a bit later and you have a SS batch of mayhem.
Wow sounds GREAT!!! Amazing playing as always, which realistically why it sounds so incredible haha.
It actually sounds very good!
Tight strong playing!👊🏻
Blood Brothers just reminded me of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2, didn't see that one coming! Congrats on the new studio setup, this is a killer demo to start off with there.
Hi John! Tommy Victor from PRONG played this head for the Cleansing album, what a tone he had! I have the VS100 head, which is similar? HORNS UP! \,,/!
you have amazing playing, and i think the quick response time of tha amp matches your blistering chops.
Great tone and personality for modern metal! Marshall needs to release a new edition of these amazing amps
a company took the exact 8100 circuit anc put it in apedal ;
Wicked tones and playing..wish I had a guitarist like you
Wow that head sounds amazing... i remembered when Death was using these and everyone wanted one... and now i want one again...
I have one of these and I absolutely love it.
Add a TubeScreamer and it goes ballistic!
One criticism though - Why the hell did Marshall decide that it was a good idea to have a footswitch for the reverb, but not between the OD1/OD2 gain stages?
Your playing is very unique in a world of sound the same guitarists....
Hey man, I just discovered your channel. I love your playing.
This is what we used in my old band Gates of Ishtar in the nineties! Good old times!
I have a Marshall Vaulestate 8080 thats my father found on the trash of someones house brought to me thinking ill found it handt and when I plug my guitar to it its was amazing how good the clean and drive channel sounded I still have till this day ive had for 4 year and still love it, even thought I had a Boss GT 10 at that time I will plug my GT 10 as an effect into the Marshall and I got some really good tone, now that I have a helix lt, ill used once and a blue moon but deff keeping that amp for a long time
I met him in South Africa, great guy and a very nice personality, love Monuments!
Great playing. Picked up an 8080 combo for the princely sum of zero pounds recently. Guy gave it away as all the pots need replacing and it has a bit of hum and some pops. Got it to use as a free cab but OD2 channel is actually great! £20 of pots and caps should see it as good as new
A buddy had a friend on tour leave one of these at his house a few years ago and had no use for it. Say it in his attic for another couple years till he threw it away and I took it. Didn’t even know how to play at the time and wasn’t into Death. Years later this video just reminded me it’s still sitting in my basement and now I can pull it out and put it to use.
Awesome, I'm waiting for my Valvestate 8100 head and cab to arrive, can't wait to hear some Death tones from it!
I bought an 8100 in 1994 for $800.00 (US Dollars) and though the pots have needed occasional cleaning, everything still works. They were expensive back then but I bought it in Seattle during the Grunge era and anything guitar related in Seattle was on a high markup.
I've got one of these hooked to a 2x12 cabinet. Sounds great with boost pedal! Noisy pots as well.
John, would love to see some vids on outboard or rack gear.
Maybe a few of your favorite pieces and why, trying to learn
Cheers Erin
These have become classics, awesome.
I had the 8080 combo with the exact same controls. Always loved the sound of it, especially the Contour pot was able to shape very different sounds. The clean channel was alright when the reverb was engaged ;) My first "proper" amp. The 80W combo was definitely loud enough to play a gig with a hard-hitting (but unmic'd) drummer. Always had the noisy pot issue as well. Sadly the amp broke after 15 years.
Hey right after you did that video with Ola about the Stomp I went right out and bought it. It is awesome. There is so much potential for great tones on that box it's crazy. Believe it or not one of the line6 2204 mod presets is my favorite.
Super cool demo sound
incredible playing and sound
I Had one at my rehersal room, great amp for lots of Styles 🤟
You nailed mate, what a cool tone...
Been after one of these for so long! I applied for a job at a cash converters and in my cover letter I told them I'd maintain and value their music gear properly because they were losing mad money there and never heard back from them. I bought an LTD Viper 100FM with an EMG 89 in the bridge for £90!!! Love the cheeky PR riff in there too ;)
sounds great! i'd love tp hear you try a Mode 4
never thought i would hear mister Brown play some papa roach!! :D
I got an 8100 on the way and already got an 8200 bichorus. Great amps!!!
Bought a 8100 2 years ago ago at a flea market for even cheaper (25 Euro) ... most of the pots were stuck (needed some replacements).... but otherwise it worked quite fine.
Just a Boost in front of the OD-2 ... perfect for old school Death Metal ,raw Grindcore & Noiserock. :-)
sounds really great man! amp is pretty nice, too.
I had a Bi-Chorus head back in the 90s for a much different application. I used it, combined with a HyperFuzz pedal, to chase that grinding fuzz tone of the Smashing Pumpkins from Siamese Dream. Still look around for another every once in a while for nostalgia purposes mostly, but it did a decent job of jumping between that tone and a pristine clean tone. Lead tones were a bit more of a challenge...
i have one since probably late 90s, ill tell you why it gets a bad rep, the opamps inside sometimes can happen to just overheat and get damaged and then the sound can lack attack and gets mudy when pushed too far, same can happen to the preamp tube. I moded mine a bit to avoid those issues
Hello bröther, could you please elaborate on this?
Yes, how did you modify it to prevent such issues?
@@FFFRoS Sure, i removed and replaced every single opamp and added sockets, so no unsoldering needed if i need to do it again. I also replaced a few capacitors and a few resistors because a few can get really hot and sometimes can get roasted over time. And ofc a brand new 12AX7 and a good cleaning. Dont forget to check every front connections and volumes too.
@@palpatinerex2753 I assume you uprated those resistors, too, so that they won't get hot in the first place? Just going up from 1/4w to 1/2w/1/2w to 1watt etc would probably do it. Some better quality resistors that are much more temperature stable with finer tolerances would probably make a difference, too, and may improve things. It's not like Marshall tends to use the best quality components in these things
@@nicwilson89 For some they are now cement resistors yeh to ease with the temperature.. In fact its not their ratting but more about their bad placement for some of them, some get hot and they can roast some capacitors too close to them. I mean even the lamp can roast from that. Great amp, not so wise guts design
I Know He Hears that a Lot but your playing Style and your Riffs are amazing sounding!
"it's so fucking loud, I'd gonna turn it up a tiny bit more" hahahaha
Seeing you riff around at 3:30 I find myself noticing bits from your excercises on Riffhard!
sick demo! would of liked to hear the head with a boost pedal just to round off the video. very much looking forward to more content!
Have the 8100 and the 8080 combo...LOVE them.
Also have, and like two of the 3203 Artist heads...just killer!
I like all the odd ball (hated) Marshall amps.
4500 Dual Reverbs and the 2205 split channel JCM 800 are among my favs.
Along with the 3210 Mosfet heads. Great home playing amps.
So good. I got the Master Effects Martyr which is supposed to be a really good replication of the 8100. Coming from Canada though it won't be here for another few weeks.
these were great. i actually had 2 of them back in the day. even though they were solid state amps, they had no problem being able to keep up with the drums.
Thanks bro. You know I had one of these twenty years ago and had completely forgotten how they sounded. Pretty cool for a modern rock sound. Unique in a way. Thinner than most tube amps. And that's why I got rid of it if I remember. It just wasn't what I was looking for at the time.
Beauty - my first amp head (back when I was like 14-15) was a VS100R and I did the same as the person who sold it to you... switched it on like "WTF, why is there no sound!?", till I looked in the back under the amp chassis and seen there's no speakers. Great amps.
A venue I frequent has one of these on hand, probably one of the more underrated amps IMO
I had a 2x12 combo of this and my other guitar player did too. So awesome and loud
This was my very first amp. I ran it into a full stack driven by a tube screamer and with a BBE Sonic Maximizer in the loop. What came out was pure doom. It was so much doom I'd catch other guitar players that came to my shows looking at my settings trying to figure out how so much pure doom could come out of a single head.
I’ve used a sonic max stomp for years ,helps all of my crap amps sound better .
Have a 5150 , and it kills even more with that pedal in it .
The stomp in this 8100 I’ve had hooked up for about a year and I love it sooo much !
Good Mornin John!
THANKS JOHN!!
I bought my Marshall Valvestate 8080 (80W Combo version) new in 1993. I've learned on it, played shows large and small with it, traveled with it, moved across the country with it... other than the noisy pots (can't really be cleaned - should be replaced), it still destroys so much of the other amps I've tried. I'm a super high gain player and i could crank the gain up and play it on volume level 1 and still have the same scorching high-gain tone while practicing in my bedroom in my parents' apartment 25 years ago. You can, at the same time, crank it all the way up without any degradation (unless on clean). I learned not really understanding why everyone around me was buying a ton of pedals, racks, effects... because I could get the gain and tone that I wanted right out of the box with this amp.
Love it. Will never sell it. None other like it.
PS: Turn the Contour all the way up!
You can absolutely clean those pots... I have two of them!