I'm upgrading and customizing my Heng Long Tiger 1 early, but I'm thinking of getting an Andy's HHQ Tiger 1 early and swapping out parts to make the HL Tiger a real stunner. Do you know if I do that will it work? Will the parts from the static kit fit onto the HL adequately enough?
Turret position on the Heng Long is too far forward very obviously. Moving the turret back to the proper position is key to getting the correct "look" of the Tiger I. It looks like other manufacturers may have made the same mistake.
very. Almost all the external fittings on all these RTR models are interchangeable with each other. Same is mostly true for the electronics too. Where you see differences are with the running gear parts, namely the swing arms.
the taigen is better. The Mato is a metal cast copy of the HL, which means you get all the same inaccuracies of the HL only in metal which makes them harder to remove / correct. The Mato suspension uses the HL style of swing plate and a spring, the Tiagen uses a swing arm and uses a torsion bar. The Tiagen tracks are better detailed and are more accurate, the Taigen turret is more to scale and has a better gun barrel. the taigen surface details are also better. The stock mato electronics on this old pattern one were useless. The only real reason why you would go for the mato over the taigen is if for no other reason you have to have the model in full metal, other than that the taigen is better of the models
Mato tanks are not waterproof, both have exposed electronics and it's not advised to get either wet. There is a video on youtube that is a POV of some guy who drives his stock taigen underwater and it worked, but it's something that I would avoid as I don;t know how much damage this will do after prolonged use
You can make them water resistant Areas to look out for are the suspension mountings, corners of the chassis where there is a gap in the aluminium, rear armour and the final drives. If you form a bow wave when entering water and never ford deeper than you have prepared for you should be okay. I drove my Walker Bulldog through water up to the return rollers and it was fine. I would recommend dipping the board in plastidip and adding petroleum jelly to the switches if you plan on doing any hardcore off roading
much better yes. I don't want to give away what's to be described in the second and third part of this series, but in a nutshell the electronics on this example were terrible and everything needed to be replaced. The details are also on the low end and many mods were made. The Taigen is a better model in just about every way, and IMO are only bested by the Tamiya one. These mato models are only good if you are looking for an all metal model that is a project build.
ok cool, the tank was supplied by the owner so I don't know where he got it from. I have seen several of these kits posted on ebay. can you post the supplier link?
@@oddball759mm i have all of them King tiger and tiger with removable side skirt. Robust as hell. This is why I choose these late Matro over Terro/taigen
Im looking for a hitch for the rear of my tank for the toilet metal pail
Am I the only one who loves the late production Tiger more? XD I can't find anyone else
I'm upgrading and customizing my Heng Long Tiger 1 early, but I'm thinking of getting an Andy's HHQ Tiger 1 early and swapping out parts to make the HL Tiger a real stunner. Do you know if I do that will it work? Will the parts from the static kit fit onto the HL adequately enough?
Im not the guy to ask, I’m not a fan of cannibalizing so I have no clue on the viability of that setup
@@oddball759mm Actually, I've decided to turn my HL Tiger 1 early into a mid production Tiger 1, do you know a good site to get upgrade parts?
To mid upgrade the tank watch the Otto carious build, the parts and work that went into that conversion are all talked about in detail
@@oddball759mm Thank you and will do.
Turret position on the Heng Long is too far forward very obviously. Moving the turret back to the proper position is key to getting the correct "look" of the Tiger I. It looks like other manufacturers may have made the same mistake.
Outstanding review. I have a couple of Taigens I picked up on sale. They are an OK value for what I paid, but my next tank will be from Mato.
at the end of this series I point out that the taigens are objectively better than the mato
@@oddball759mm Oh, thanks for replying with that, I will continue watching.
... GREAT REVIEW AS ALWAYS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
The markings are of 502 s. Pz abt. Are those markings of an actual tiger with the 502? Or generic and fictitious?
the numbers are fictitious, and were picked by the customer
@@oddball759mm oh ok was curious. Awesome nevertheless
Im upgrading mine as well Heng Long RC 1/16 Tiger1 Tank
I already upgraded the tracks and Sprockets
Hi John, quick question, how interchangeable are internal and external parts for heng long tanks with the mato tanks?
Cheers
very. Almost all the external fittings on all these RTR models are interchangeable with each other. Same is mostly true for the electronics too. Where you see differences are with the running gear parts, namely the swing arms.
People say taigen is better could you tell me how im considering buying one of these
the taigen is better. The Mato is a metal cast copy of the HL, which means you get all the same inaccuracies of the HL only in metal which makes them harder to remove / correct. The Mato suspension uses the HL style of swing plate and a spring, the Tiagen uses a swing arm and uses a torsion bar. The Tiagen tracks are better detailed and are more accurate, the Taigen turret is more to scale and has a better gun barrel. the taigen surface details are also better. The stock mato electronics on this old pattern one were useless. The only real reason why you would go for the mato over the taigen is if for no other reason you have to have the model in full metal, other than that the taigen is better of the models
@@oddball759mm thx
I heard mato tanks can ford in pools of water but not taigen tanks. Is it actually possible to waterproof a taigen?
Mato tanks are not waterproof, both have exposed electronics and it's not advised to get either wet. There is a video on youtube that is a POV of some guy who drives his stock taigen underwater and it worked, but it's something that I would avoid as I don;t know how much damage this will do after prolonged use
You can make them water resistant
Areas to look out for are the suspension mountings, corners of the chassis where there is a gap in the aluminium, rear armour and the final drives.
If you form a bow wave when entering water and never ford deeper than you have prepared for you should be okay.
I drove my Walker Bulldog through water up to the return rollers and it was fine.
I would recommend dipping the board in plastidip and adding petroleum jelly to the switches if you plan on doing any hardcore off roading
Is the 1/16 Taigen tiger a better representation of the tiger, or the 1/16 Mato tiger? Btw, im talking about completly
much better yes. I don't want to give away what's to be described in the second and third part of this series, but in a nutshell the electronics on this example were terrible and everything needed to be replaced. The details are also on the low end and many mods were made.
The Taigen is a better model in just about every way, and IMO are only bested by the Tamiya one. These mato models are only good if you are looking for an all metal model that is a project build.
What do you use for your welds.
I use an industrial epoxy, most people use and have good results with miliput or Aves epoxy sculpt
@@oddball759mm thank you for your fast response.
Good~
Wow
Do you have a link?
link to what?
oddball759mm To a distributor but I found it:)
ok cool, the tank was supplied by the owner so I don't know where he got it from. I have seen several of these kits posted on ebay. can you post the supplier link?
I have half of this tank. In case you didn't find it: www.matotoys.com/product1.php
new mato uses new t22 Clarke motherboard and real torsion bars not all these outdated parts.
good to know
@@oddball759mm i have all of them King tiger and tiger with removable side skirt. Robust as hell. This is why I choose these late Matro over Terro/taigen
just look like plastic after paint
So what's a metal tank supposed to look like?