This TYCO Canadian Pacific Hasn't Run In Years - Can We Make It?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- A buddy of mine was walking through a train store and found this tyco Canadian Pacific F9 engine going for $7. After a quick test it was clear it wasn't gonna run without some work so today I decided to have a go at trying to make it run again. Will it work?
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I always look forward to your videos. I may not have trains for myself but it does not mean I cannot have a love for model trains. I truly enjoy watching you fix the various engines/locomotives (I still do not know the difference between the two. Maybe one day someone will explain it to me). There is something pleasing to me when you make them run. Thank you Harrison. ❤😊❤🤗❤🇺🇸
Absolutely, you don't have to own something to be able to appreciate it. Thanks for the support!
Very cool video and fix! Sometime you should do a video or livestream where you drive all of your newer engines with your nicer rolling stock, etc. That would be cool.
I have a small fleet of the CP F Units.Tyco&Bachmann. I use a pair of pinchers a put a couple teeth marks on the output shaft. Then press the gear on👍🚂🇨🇦
wow I have not heard that sound from a motor since I was a kid playing with fixing these things and road race cars. Otters make the same sounds!
I'd imagine they might have been the same motors tyco used in their slot cars.
@@SMTMainline - My brother & I received a Tyco slot car set for Christmas 1972. The Tyco motor had a frame made out of a C -channel shaped piece of metal that was formed into a square shape, with the flat side out. The field magnets were placed into opposite sides of the frame. The armature was in between the magnets & had its bearing holes going through the two other sides of the frame - with a spur gear at one end of the armature shaft. One of my friends had an AFX slot car set - those cars had an armature that was similar in design to the Power Torque motor.
Good deal for $5!! A little basic maintenance and VOOM.
Great work! haha this one was so cute with its little chirps and hiccups as it went around the track breaking in 😂 cool loco!
Great video, i have just bought one or two Power Torques so very helpful , perhaps you could do a Tyco history video beings you have a number of them . Cheers Richard
I don't know much on the history to be honest.
Nice Repair.
This year marks the 100th Anniversary of the Electro Motive Division.
Very nice job of restoring this loco. She works pretty well for what she is.
The pancake motor reminds me of the motors on Aurora HO slot cars. Not exactly the same, but very similar. The springs were prone to breaking.
Good looking unit!
Such a awesome tyco Canadian pacific emd f7 right there!
Dude! Another great piece of work!!!!
CP Rail has a good paint scheme. Beginning in 1992 CP Rail gained access to the Port in South Philadelphia via its Delaware & Hudson Railway by way of the ConRail 25th St. viaduct, a two mile long double track concrete structure. I photographed the pac-man scheme on numerous EMD SD40-2 , SW-8 , SW-1200RS, 50' green plug door newsprint boxcars and yellow wide vision cabooses.
Power torques power not the best but with the right maintenance you can make them run very well!
I have to say this locomotive is well running
That's the second Tyco F-unit body, too. I'm not sure what happened to that tooling, Tyco made it because the original one had pretty well worn out, but when Mantua came back they must have gotten that old tooling and fixed it. IHC ended up with the assets that General Foods kept but never made any of these.
Hello I just want to say thank you for the knowledge of working on and cleaning motors I recently picked up three locomotives and none of them worked and with the knowledge I got from watching you videos I was able to get all three going I just want to say thanks
Thanks,always enjoy to see you fix it. These old Tyco's is great👍
Great restoration! Will you be doing a video on your newly acquired Rivarossi Cab forward?
I don't know when but yes
@@SMTMainline I’m eager to see it riding the rails!
You are the "Scotty" of fixing trains.
Nice work. I'm Learning a lot from your videos - Very interesting.
I still have one of these in storage, except with the Mantua motor setup. Best puller I had, but then again, everything I could find (and afford) was old tyco. That color scheme triggered some strong memories.
So cool. Can’t wait to add some CP and some Canadian rollingstock and engines for my tropical paradise yardenrailroad in sunny Southern California. Love your videos can’t wait to see you on cable TV some time with your own TV show on Netflix.
Sounds like a premature "serenity" there. No worries it happens to the best of us 😆😆
I wasn't expecting that lol
And there's nothing more embarrassing than premature serenity....Sorry - I couldn't help myself there...
I actually like the paint scheme they had on these. I have one freight car that has the Pac-Man paint Scheme but is a light blue. I honestly wish that typo never went with this power torque because that pivot gear is the most unreliable piece that they have on it they expect a lot for that little tiny gear to actually power the entire locomotive if they went with a drive system similar to the steam engines and then use the driveshaft system I think they would have had a better product. I would agree with you it is pretty mint to actually see the low-speed performance I'm quite amazed myself. A nice good easy restoration nice job.
I don't know how it was able to go so slow, very unusual for an engine like this.
@@SMTMainline yeah i know same as my Rivarossi dockside and my lifelike fph40. 3 pole motors i think when done right balanced too make a world of difference
Tyco should are just left the motor to mantua they were actually very good
You should get a new Bachmann f-unit and work on it
I asked a guy at a hobby shop how to clean soothe contacts and said that “any citrus based cleaner would work”. I’ve always wondered.
Haven't heard of that before
From Lifeless to Lifelike!
Nice restoration Harrison, really like the CPRAIL refer containers!
Thanks
Running again is a plus.
That double-stack pig is great. Get a few 5 packs and 3 packs and make a Q train.
Keep the repair videos going. They sure help and are very much appreciated.👍!
Your videos were a great deal of help but may restore some of the locomotives which I picked up so I got to say keep doing a great job Harrison with your train videos and I enjoy every last one of them so thank you
SMT - You've seen these problems quite a few times, so you know what to look for right away! The hobby shop that had a bunch of CP F-units, that would be a good shop to visit if you want to make the Silver Streak Amroad train!
Yes, these power torques as you know seems to have had common flaws but it makes it easy to fix when you already know how to handle it.
Cheepy Rail F unit with a stack pack. Nice!
Hi so cool I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS AND WORK I decided to do a challenge of watching all your videos from oldest to newest love all your videos keep up the good work smt
Thanks
I've liked that livery since I first saw it, but I haven't heard it called the Pacman color scheme before.
I think it was coined by rail fans at the time due to the shape of the black and white logo.
Try a little tiny itty bitty dab of JB Weld. You can always use a Dremel tool and grind it away! Cheers!
I might try that next time.
SMT - Both Roger Lee & Martin Gotham, as well as I, would like to see you tinker with your British OO scale locomotives. SMT - try putting the straight sections of your Lemax track together & see if your Tri - Ang & Hornby locomotives will operate on it (Since the Lemax track has a taller rail than code 100 HO track.). As for your Trix Twin locomotives, you could see if the center rail sliding shoe contact has a lug where you could solder a thin, flexible wire to complete the circuit connection with the transformer. You could also try laying a stiff, large diameter bare wire down the center of the Lemax track for testing the Trix Twin locomotives.
wow you have cargo containers you need a lot more of them i like the end pick new and old track
I would be nice to expand my collection of those
The problem was that DIY repair using a ring connector was screwed into the motors cast iron housing creating an intermittent short from positive to negative where the ring connector met the original spring plate.
Hey Pancake motors are kinda neat ,I have about 10 I think in various engines - the good ones are few but the best run as if they have a flywheel in them , only 2 I have found like that ,they are Lima ,but very good also Lima has it in N scale and they are o.k. for the size 🚂🚃🚃🚃
Serenity! … Aw crap. LOL. Where do you come up with these zingers!? Great work as always.
I like how when I mention something about it working it fails lol.
Awesome! It's a Power Torque, of course it will run. They're my favorites. It looks like your biggest problem was the brush making contact and the pivot gear was loose. Maybe a drop of oil in the pivot gear and the other side of the commutator. I love it.
Can you recommend someplace I can read up on what "Power Torque" is?
@@GeraldM_inNC Power Torque is just the name of that type of motor that Tyco made. SMT did a good job of explaining how to fix them. What do you want to know?
@@dbtech7914 Is it a fundamentally different type of motor from other model trains?
@@GeraldM_inNC It's got a "pancake" motor, very similar style of motor to what Bachmann and Life like used at the same time. These motors were ironically very low torque however through a massive gear reduction they were able to increase the amount of torque they could pull from them, thus they were called "power torques".
@@GeraldM_inNC - Tyco started building locomotives with " Power Torque Drive " in the mid 1970s.
That Power Torque has it's contacts flipped around. On all of mine the one that is at an angle is at the bottom. It's still working though so it's no biggie.
Don't know why it was changed but the only difference will be the direction the loco runs.
If only the power torque had somthing to hold the torque motor
Those pinion gears always become loose. Back when I worked in a hobby shop, used to fix that for people all the time!
I'm not shocked to hear that. It seems these drives had several common issues.
If you ever get an old F unit like that one and you really like it with a little work like cutting out the forward coupler pocket and fight filing where the back door is it will fit on an atheron F unit chassis....
If he maid u pay back 7 bucks he ain't a buddy!!great vid harrison
He bought it on my behalf and I paid him back.
@13:28 track is just like real track!
can u do a australian streamliner video where u showcase all ur australian streamliners and locos pls. P.s. i brought a orange tgv that the guy just said needed a service and i gave it clean and fixed it up as it was missing some wheels and it runs without fault now i bought is for $150 aus doller. also i liked how u gave the train a longer run than in previous videos, lover your channel keep it up.
I wanna buy more Australian stuff in the future.
Great work
Nice job 👍!
That cover plate was on upside down. The positive terminal needs to be at the top, and the one that earths to the screw needs to be at bottom left.
I don't think it changes anything other than the direction of the locomotive.
I had one of those, long ago!
You can also use an exacto knife to hold the springs in
It is always very nice when you get a old non working engine to run again. Can anyone send you a engine that does not run for you to work on ?b Great video
Thanks, unfortunately I no longer do repairs that involve shipping.
ah classic tycos
Very informative, thaks
It appeared in the Captain Punjab's Bachmann Thomas series.
You are working on this Diesel?
Yes
Did you lube the motor shafts? Probably help a lot. I also would have knocked off all that extra solder on the brush holders.
I usually don't on the side of the commutator since the oil will almost always end up on it.
It's me again . You need more Double stack cars make a longer train . .YOU need more . when are you going to put that switch in to your yard in ?
Great work.😁😁😁🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Question is there any ttc subway trains in ho scale?
I'm not sure
@@SMTMainline I found streetcars
Yeah in the future just use loctite blue to secure shafts instead of CA that way you can remove them in the future if you need to service
I got rid of ALL my TYCO stuff years ago! Power torque was a joke! should have stuck with the Mantua style motors from the 60's! Power torque is just like Bachman at that time!
tyco was aiming for a resurgence of low cost train set sales of an earlier era. both Tyco and Bachmann, their main competitor, focused on the Christmas train sets and beginner's trains, neither being expected to last a long time. they were later joined by lifelike providing expendable trains. all are quite collectible for historical purposes.
I wonder what the cost difference was to make each drive. The 60s era drives certainly have proven to last longer.
I find you videos fascinating .
Question..... Do you really enjoy refurbishing locos as much as actually running them?
Looks almost like the silver streak
Just needs the AMROAD decals :)
@@Rick-remlrp yes I know
@@Rick-remlrp and the number too right
@@brandonharris7516 Yep yep! #4070 :)
@@Rick-remlrp ok
run through the new tracks some time.
Ever done any work on a British made Tri-ang locomotive?
I've worked on a few, decent locomotives.
silver streak.... Amroad...good film if you have never seen it
Great Gene Wilder movie
Cool
$7.00? A bargain at twice the price! Have you ever tried to resurrect an engine that defied your efforts?
I bought this steam locomotive in horrible condition years ago and failed at repairing it many times. It's still not perfect but it does run now.
coukd we see some british locos on the railway
Remark it AMROAD, like in the movie "Silver Streak"
I just made a shout out video and I put your channel on it 😁👍
Awesome thank you!
@@SMTMainline Your Welcome 😁
What the heck, when did ya get new intermodal containers
Christmas
@@SMTMainline oh cool, you should have done a Christmas Haul video like how Union Pacific Omaha does it
Any idea how I could get traction tires for one of these? Recently redid an engine with the powertorque drive and when I tested it I noticed they were missing.
I found a guy on eBay selling them made out of silicone.
Ok I’ll try and find that. Thanks!
However did you learn how to fix your HO ENGINES
impressive with aloha
Why were so many models of F-units made back in the day?
They were very common on many railroads - in freight & passenger service!
@@Petemonster62 So were GP9's, but Life-like, Model Power and Bachmann weren't cranking those out by the thousands
@@TomLuTon - Tom, you are right about the model train manufacturers not producing a lot of GP7s - & yes, they were a common model found on most railroads. It seems the various manufacturers made various different models when it came to road switchers; Tyco made Alco Century models, Bachmann made GE models, I recall Life-Like making some kind of EMD GP model or Alco RS model - the same with Model Power. AHM/IHC had their GP18 & BL2. Athearn had the greatest variety of road switchers.
In terms of models, they were probably easy to make since they didn't have handrails etc
@@SMTMainline - that is a good point SMT! About the only handrails found on a model of an F-unit were molded-on handrails for the cab doors. The fact that many of the Tyco road-switcher diesels didn't have any handrails also would support that view!
Smt: puts engine on track
Me seeing there's still 4 minutes left in the video "somethings not right"
Wasn't expecting that lol
i want one of them
go canada
and i like your videos
The front of it looks like the train off of silver streak
The loco in the movie came from Canadian Pacific.
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