1975 TYCO CN Locomotive - Will it Run Again?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- I found this 1975 tyco mantua power torque locomotive for sale in the consignment section of a train store for $7. The condition was clearly rough but I decided to buy it anyway as a project. As would be discovered this locomotive was clearly high milage as almost everything in the drive was quite worn out. Will it ride the rails again?
DUDE!! This was your best by far!!! Somehow you resurrected a Tyco! Why? Because this hobby is fun! The Hockey tape on a CN locomotive! You couldn’t script that any better!!! Awesome!!!
This isn't scripted
As an american, I don't know about these things, but would think wrapping a Canadian train in hockey tape would fix almost any problem.
Nice work Harrison!
I change out brushes in a couple of my older locos I've had for 2+ decades a few years ago. I got the replacement brushes from Athearn.
Way to go Harrison. Not too shabby for $7. Definitely sounds much better.. The Harrison magic touch works once again. 💜😊💜
For some reason this locomotive made me smile seeing it at the end. There sure was a lot up build up on it but the thing really just wants to run and you did an awesome job getting it there. I hope it now has a nice spot in your collection
That's really cool you got it running. That looks to be the same era hey gp20 that I have but it had an unfortunate accident because I accidentally dropped it. When I looked up the Canadian national Tyco locomotives are rare in the states I think they were mostly marketed in Canada. I read that info from a tyco website that I sent you I think. I got to say hearing that story that your grandfather told you made me smile plus I never thought of that idea.
With some body modifications and the inclusion of some correct Alco 6 axle sideframes and small aIr tanks in place of those Tyco GP-20 fuel tank parts below the frame you could have a FC del Pacifico AP1620 Empalme shops (1979 ) rebuild.
Removing the hockey tape, leaving grime on it... wow, it now looks like a hard worker with exhaust and grease. Don't remove too much of it... add some hand railings and you got an awesome brute... And, from one side it's a C430... the other, it's a C630!
John
Well....the OCD in me says put the same side frames on the same truck, as it's totally believable that MLW would do anything to keep another ALCO controlling mosquitoes on lines around the Great White North. But, I can't argue with Opa.
Nice work as usual 🙂!
Alco did a terrific job at getting rid of skidders, they should bring them back lol
You did well. It's amazing TYCO made so many ALCO diesels no GE engines the ALCO resembled the GENERAL ELECTRIC engines. I was so glad you found spare parts for this ALCO , Harrison I could hardly tell the difference on the side frames on the trucks. You make this CN model railroader on this side of the border even happier you saved this engine. Great job👍✅
I've been watching a lot of your restoration videos and I really enjoy them! It makes me happy to see old trains run like new, especially less desirable ones like this.
i am shocked. You are the first person i've ever seen who has fixed one of these godforsaken Tyco bogies...
I was 13 in 1970 when my parents got me a TYCO HO set for Christmas. It had the Penn Central F9 and I still have it. Loved model railroading ever since.
Dude! I’m impressed!! Love seeing your videos of rebuilding and making these locomotives have a second life! Keep it up Harrison!
I was at my local train store yesterday and one of the guys working there told be that if you have damaged cars, people will only focus on the first and last two
Interesting thought
A miracle indeed, Harrison -- the kind we have come to expect from your ability to work wonders. I may have missed something over the years, but I can recall only one time that you did not completely restore an engine to running order. Keep up the excellent (and entertaining) good work.
its good to see these Restoring videos. it can help restore some of my model trains. they are from the same era as this! id love to show you them if i could!
Glad to see you got it going. Unfortunately I think you were overcharged by the store. A looney in the "for parts" bin would have been more appropriate. If you don't have a spares box the outlay would have been more , not counting your labour. Good work!
7 didn’t seem to bad to me. I really just wanted a small weekend reclamation project.
Great to see it running again, SMT.
You hot a great deal on the engine. That is awesome you got it running. Thank you for a great video and for sharing your knowledge of the model railroads. Have been enjoying your channel and content. ❤🇨🇦
8:38 ah, explains why all the tyco locomotives I’ve tried to fix don’t work. Thanks lol
Classic tyco
Hey SMT! Im back! Haven't been able to watch anything for quite some time now. This one was a cool project! Good job!
Great video now I can try to fix my CN locomotive that looks like this but I’m still gonna take it to my local hobby shop
You had me laughing at "Hockey Tape" again. Good job. I think those other side covers were from a GG-1. Love it.
Doesn't get more Canadian than that
she ll pull through with flying colors!
Hi Harrison, Watching your videos I happened to notice
watching your videos I noticed you ho scale cars. I am retired and can't really afford them so I USE THE matchbook cars that I buy at walmart. A little out of scale but it works for me. I love your vids and have learned so much from you.
Love the videos man!!!
Sweet locomotive
great video! keep fixing all these locomitives
I have a Rock Island one my mom found great video :)
Smoke, arching, Oh my!!!!
Cool stuff man, yeah I grabbed a Tyco GP20 that was missing almost all it's truck covers lol from a train show for 8 dollars that was non operable at the time. Not too bad considering I fixed it so now I have to see what I want to do with it lol
your videos are the very best
Thanks
Damn, what a loco
Yes, I was just about to comment that you should swap the bogie caps.
Reminds me of the Milwaukee Road's SDL39s on the right side - maybe a "never was" MLW M430CL
Love those canadian national locos!
You should look into resin casting and mold making.
Yes - SMT could make a bunch of truck side frames! Other parts that are often missing - like horns, or broken steps - could be molded.
If I could figure it out, it could be an excellent tool
I love this Canadian National locomotive.
Good job in repair you locomotive.
You 🐱 is friend of my dog Scooby Doo.
Scrappy Doo is a nice pup.
Scooby Dum is a very nice.
Astro is my Great Dane.
On the silver side covers you should have the 6 axle on the front on 4 axle on the back it would look very nice
Serenity!
Nice work...poor ol thing
Thanks 👍
An example of a Tyco foobie - no C430's were sold in Canada by either Alco or MLW. Only 16 were built
Original Owners
Owner[ Quantity Numbers Notes
Green Bay and Western Railroad 1 315
New York Central Railroad 10 2050-2059
Reading Railroad 2 5211-5212
Seaboard Coast Line Railroad 3 1275-1277 ex Alco (demonstrators) 430-1 to 430-3
Of course, it's your railroad, nothing says CN couldn't have bought some.
Here's a list of MLW-Bombardier built Four axle Century series locomotive models
Model Build date Total
produced Wheel
arrangement Prime mover Power output
C-424 1963-1967 92 B-B 16-251B 2,400 hp (1,790 kW)
M-420 1973-1977 91 B-B 12-251C 2,000 hp (1,490 kW)
M-420B 1975 8 B-B 12-251C 2,000 hp (1,490 kW)
M-420R 1974-1975 5 B-B 12-251C 2,000 hp (1,490 kW)
M-420TR type 1 1972 2 B-B 12-251C 2,000 hp (1,490 kW) built for Roberval and Saguenay
M-420TR type 2 1975 15 B-B 12-251C 2,000 hp (1,490 kW) built for Ferrocarril del Pacifico
M-424 1980-1981 72 B-B 16-251B 2,400 hp (1,790 kW) (16 built for Ferrocarril del Pacifico, 3 built for Unidos del Sureste and 53 for Ferrocarriles Nacionales de Mexico)
You need to move to Bakersfield to join are model Railroad Club' you know a lot about fixing thing and wire a switch also' these old people cry over getting to old to fix stuff and work on the layout,
I believe these had traction tires on one set of wheels.
They do, this one's might be worn out.
You could try making a mold of the truck cover.
SMT - I think the mounting method you used for the fuel tank is similar to how Tyco mounted the front coupler on the pre power torque motor F units.
Good point, hadn't thought of it that way.
" Hockey Tape! " " The handyman's secret weapon!".
"If the women don't find you hansom, they should at least find you handy"
I got given a corkey canval c liner looks like it runs well
I would like to kit bash a tyco with 2 motors just to see how it would work.
Ive tried to do that… it was interesting because it worked so poorly that it became a geared down switcher.
i could smell the carbon through the screen 😂
69th like nice love this content love learning about how to maintain your model trains hails harrison 🤘
Glad you find it helpful 👍
if you put the comm brushes on a piece of cardboard and touch them with a hot soldering iron you would see all the old oil they absorbed come out , and make it run better
what did u use to remove the adhesive from the tape off the choo choo train?
I have to ask, what brand is your controller for your layout? My son models HO scale while I model N scale. We both like the controller you use. We just wanted to know what brand it is. I hope you don't mind me asking.
Mine is an MRC Tech 3 9500 series. Most of MRC’s dc controllers are pretty good.
@@SMTMainline Thanks. All we have are two cheap controllers. Got them with two different Athens train sets I bought when my son was about 4 yrs old. I got him the John Deere set along with the Coke Cola Winter set. Now he's 20 yrs old, and he has expanded. He has a little bit of everything Ho scale.
@@SMTMainline my dual throttle mrc we had as a kid was old when I was little.. I'd rather use analog. DCC engines are ridiculously overpriced. I'm really enjoying your videos because this is pretty much how I'd be model railroading. Now if I could find my little stash of trains I'd make you an offer.
I saw a little bit of blue in the cab
Put a small drop of superglue on the motor pinion gear.
I wonder how many TYCO engines ended up melting. I had a Conrail F unit that ended up having part of the cab melt as well.
These locomotives are prone to all kinds of different problems, I'm sure it happened plenty of times.
You should make a long train with a dpu
Hey I have a question for you what did you use to put the glass on the edge of your train set to stop the trains from derailing because I would like to add it to my set
I have the same thing on mine. I just used plexiglass and some wood glue with a few nails
Hmmm…Are you going to put a junk yard on the layout?
Don’t think I have room for one. Think I need one to store this loco? Lol
Letter the uglies for SMTX
you know, @@cmdrflake, i thought of another reporting mark: SMTM
Well the SMTX reporting marks reflect the rules for equipment not owned by a railroad.
What brand of power pack do you have? I've never seen one with meters and I would like to get one.
An ask what rails do you use for your layout
Atlas code 100 snap track
@@SMTMainline thanks
Isn't the horn on top of the cab facing the wrong way? Not that I know about such things. Is that one of those cosmetic things you were talking about? Loved the video, btw!
If you look, you can see the two holes in the cab for the other horn
It's missing one, there should be one facing forwards and other backwards.
How do you clean off your carbon fiber pen when it's dirty
The pen wears down as you use it so it naturally cleans a bit, other wise rub it on a scrap piece of cloth. The cloth should never be used for another purpose since glass fibres can be dangerous.
You need to paint the Trucks Black would look so much better...
Probably would be more prototypical
@@SMTMainline - I wonder if Tony Cook's Model Railroad Resource Center has a picture of this engine, so you can see if it should have silver truck side frames.
@@Petemonster62 Except CN never had any C430's. Although, judging by photos of other types of locomotives, it appears CN painted trucks black. As for painting these trucks, I am in doubt paint would stick and a chipped paint job would look absolutely terrible
@@colbeausabre8842 - It does seem that the truck side frames are molded in that silver plastic. Probably would have to scrub them with a old tooth brush using a dishwashing detergent solution to get the black paint to adhere to the side frames.
Have a locomotive and I need to see If I could fix it so tell me if it’s chargeable I’ll make a video about it
I have a problem with the pinion gear spinning around the motor spindle. Without the pinion gear, the locomotive doesn’t move. Do you have a suggestion how I can affix the pinion gear to the spindle so that when the spindle moves so does the pinion gear? Solder doesn’t want to take because the spindle is stainless steel. Ideas?
ca or epoxt
epoxy or replace motor with a cd motor
@@ededwardson6074 Thanks!
Make sure the pivot gear is fully installed then add crazy glue over the top of the gear, be careful not to put too much or else it will run down the sides and get in the teeth.
@@SMTMainline Thank you!
OSHA is not going to go with those missing handrails..)
My gosh, Harrison. Is there any loco you CAN'T fix?????
This kid has nightmares about dirty commutators lol 😂
I have right now is 5oo just train video's. on my TH-cam ' But we need more people in are club; just tell them you know a lot about DCC just think what I did to melting that switch. They went to a place for a week to see the 1776 ' 1976 locomotive the red white and blue unit, when they come back they be new rules they run the show,
What controller do you use I want to buy one with the guages on it since I'd like to repair my own locos
An MRC Tech 3 9500 series
@@SMTMainline Much appreciated will definitely keep that in mind for my layout
@@flyingvillager1472 You may need to get a second hand model. I that particular model is discontinued.
Hello
It could be worse...I think a Life Like Locomotive would be alot worse to fix then a Tyco locomotive.
I'm calling him Frankie stein.
I like it
I dont know about you people BUT I just love the old Tycho engines , not so much those like this pancake motor , I think they call it but the older ones with the worm gear ... dont you ?
Yes, the original TYCO Mantua drives with the 5 pole motors are great things. MU2 drives I believe they are called.
If it would have been a EMD Engine everything would have just been Golden!!! Not a Ole Junk GE Engine...
This is an Alco, not a GE.
Not a GE but to each their own lol
The EMD equivalent would be the GP40 (1221 built) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_GP40
and GP40-2 (1143 built)
Not that this is relevant but, my Life-like little blue controller finally died. (I was expecting this to happen since it’s from the 80’s-90’s) I’m stuck trying to find a controller that is cheaper but reliable. I only have 5 ho scale locomotive and just like to run them for fun. Any suggestions?
A basic used or new MRC DC controller should be good. I’d avoid older DC controllers if possible.
@@SMTMainlineThanks, real lifesaver now that I have some advice, I’m a little new to the hobby.
lol
“…is that smoke…?
lol
You need a 3d printer for new parts for the Locomotives
Probably, just waiting on the tech to get better
How about you buy one and donate it? I love it when people tell someone else, "I think you should spend your money on this"
@@colbeausabre8842 I'm a poor man my self
Can you put new brushes in it.
Would you be interested in selling this locomotive?
I'll hang onto it thanks
You know a lot about DCC right
Not really
Rubber tires, that is maybe is so slow
Only two axle drive - no traction tyres, too much wheel slip.
smt I give you Microsoft train simulator you give me train tracks and locomotive.
I’ve already got Microsoft train simulator
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You got to it a second before me
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I heard the ad loud and clear but I can't hear you at all.
Did you check the video player volume as well?
@@SMTMainline Yes I did I even used the same ear phones to watch other video's and they came through loud and clear
I don't know why but the last 3 or 4 videos I had to turn on Closed Captioning I couldn't hear you and my volume is all the way up I can hear other videos just fine but not yours I have no idea what's wrong.
Seems fine on my end but it's possible I didn't have the gain turned up high enough. It can be fixed slightly in post production if it's overdone it will distort the audio.
OK But I just can't hear a word you say Try it on your computer maybe you'll get the same thing I am and then figure it out@@SMTMainline
Would you be interested in selling this locomotive?
I think I'll hang onto it.
@SMTMainline Thanks for the response, if you change your mind keep me in mind.
P.s. I'm a big fan of your channel, keep up the great content