So, you wanna get into VOCALOID - A Beginner's Guide by JOEZCafe (Basics, Music and Software Tips)

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  • @joezcafe
    @joezcafe  4 ปีที่แล้ว +632

    This video’s a little outdated and from when I was less experienced in VOCALOID and other similar programs compared to now.
    This video still has some use when it comes to what VOCALOID is and to introduce you to the cultural side of the medium, but if you want a much more comprehensive tutorial on using the software to make your own works, I have a newer video here:
    th-cam.com/video/ySledv37IrQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @gachagirl5676
      @gachagirl5676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you use it on mobile?

    • @Awesomejojo
      @Awesomejojo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gachagirl5676 I'm afraid the all programs featured in the guide are not mobile supported. I wont be surprised if there was an app though.

    • @Awesomejojo
      @Awesomejojo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      wait a minute, I think Vocaloid did make some sort of app for mobile. I think it's Vocaloid Editor or something like that you might want to check it out.

    • @ealy3545
      @ealy3545 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm a pianist and I don't know if it'll help but here's a hint that helped me:
      Practice rythms a whole lot with both hands. I't probably sounds really broad to just practice rythms so I'll narrow it down a bit. so what I often do is pick a low note with my left hand and the same note 1 or 2 octaves higher with my right hand depending on what sounds good. Then you just start playing that note in a rythm in your right hand at about 70-90bpm. Then you play the note in your left hand twice as slow as in your right hand, so you get 1 low note every two high notes. when you got the hang of that try doubling the tempo you go at. now your left hand is the bpm and your right hand plays 1/8 notes. Now try counting the beat so you actually know what ur doing like 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4,... Now you can experiment with breaks in your right hand. First stop playing only the last 1/8 note of your right hand about four times. then work your way back through the remaining 7 notes. Also, an important thing to do is even when you play a mistake KEEP COUNTING. That's the most important thing. When you are able to do that congratulations, you got further then I expected you to read through this mess and I'm glad you gave me a chance to help. But now try stop playing any two 1/8 notes of your right hand. and then three and so on. even when you only play two notes with your right hand just keep going cuz that'll give you more timing when you play. That's about all I'm gonna write here cuz this comment is already long enough as it is rn. Maybe you won't feel any difference but your fingers should be more controlable by now unconciously.
      anyways I loved this video. Now I understand a bit more about vocaloid.

    • @ianweckhorst3200
      @ianweckhorst3200 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ealy3545zamn that’s an actual essay, impressive, and relatable

  • @Aether-azurr
    @Aether-azurr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2763

    Does anyone notice that miku has a quieter, male voice in the background of her singing when someone like deco 27 tunes her.

    • @Sar2929
      @Sar2929 5 ปีที่แล้ว +314

      Yeah! I really like it actually, it's deco*27s unique way of tuning. I think it's just miku with a lower pitch and higher gender factor

    • @imyojimboandiusehacks8878
      @imyojimboandiusehacks8878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +216

      Actually i think is his voice. When i'm bored and want to hear only the instrumentals i put The song in Project Diva Future Tone/Mega 39's practice mode and... I got really surprised when i heard a voice too human to be from Miku; i payed closer attention and realized that maybe it was Deco himself. The song was 39 and the same goes with all of Deco's songs... But it's specially heavy in 39.
      *Fun fact: Also in some of those instrumentales only moments i discovered Gumi as a background voice in some little parts of Torinoko City so... Gumi is not exactly in the game but at least we got that, take that Crypton! (ok i'll shut up...)

    • @4qx20z
      @4qx20z 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I did the exact same thing! GUMI's voice is also found in Karakuri Pierrot!

    • @_meldrop_
      @_meldrop_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Kikuo does this too!

    • @Rj-27
      @Rj-27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@_meldrop_ Deco*27, Kikuko, GigaP are my favorites there's a few others but I don't remember there names do to the fact that there's a lot of them lol

  • @Scarfulhu
    @Scarfulhu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2639

    Why does the box art for Leon and Lola look like the box art for sex toys??

    • @joezcafe
      @joezcafe  5 ปีที่แล้ว +388

      Maybe cuz they’re soul singers...?
      The singing style of romance???
      WHO KNOWS

    • @kutsanmisbebek6200
      @kutsanmisbebek6200 5 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      Also condom boxes too

    • @morimori7456
      @morimori7456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      why was this in my recommendation?

    • @kutsanmisbebek6200
      @kutsanmisbebek6200 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      you can run from vocaloid, but you can’t hide :)

    • @KingBookWorm
      @KingBookWorm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      lol

  • @SalimDoodles
    @SalimDoodles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1350

    Vocaloid tuning is like developing an art style. Yeah, you have people who can draw amazing hyper realistic portraits, but you also have people who make incredible anime art, or surrealistic backgrounds, or hell even simple pencil sketches have their own charm depending on the project.

  • @megmoore8681
    @megmoore8681 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1345

    Here are some of my own tuning tips for beginners!
    -If a Vocaloid is having trouble hitting lower notes, chances are increasing the brightness will make it sound a lot less muffled. This can also lend some power to the voice. But be careful when using it as it can distort the voice.
    -PHONEME SWAP LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT. Keep going until the pronunciation is perfect and don't just settle for default pronunciation. For example, if you swap the [ I ] phoneme to [ e ] on an English Vocaloid with a heavy Japanese accent, like Fukase, it makes the pronunciation a lot more natural sounding. Sweet Ann's [ V ] sounds better if changed to a [ Q ]. Don't be afraid to try really weird and unique phoneme combinations. Every Vocaloid has its tricks.
    -If you're using V2, V3 or V4, Fast Vibrato Type 3 is the best vibrato, no questions.
    -Just make sure to try new things and don't settle into one routine, so that you're always improving!

    • @joezcafe
      @joezcafe  5 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      IN THIS HOUSE WE STAN FAST VIBRATO

    • @latia876
      @latia876 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks! :D

  • @fr3ak1ng0ut8
    @fr3ak1ng0ut8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2938

    don’t mind me, i’m on mobile so i need these
    learn about vocaloid - 3:53
    listen to vocaloid - 11:46
    use vocaloid - 21:43
    edit;; aw i’ve never been pinned before thank you :’) i’m happy now

    • @SharpDesign
      @SharpDesign 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Thank you for this..

    • @fr3ak1ng0ut8
      @fr3ak1ng0ut8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      GD CoolPlayer142 lol np

    • @hlalduhzuala4787
      @hlalduhzuala4787 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It's 2:44 for the learning

    • @honque806
      @honque806 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out this guy channel
      th-cam.com/users/ubnubmaster

    • @FunnyParadox
      @FunnyParadox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      You got unpinned ^^"

  • @StardustLegend
    @StardustLegend 5 ปีที่แล้ว +804

    as a hobbyist producer who struggles to find other's willing to do vocals for my songs, this was VERY helpful for me!! Thank you for this!!!

    • @joezcafe
      @joezcafe  5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      No way, that’s insane!
      I took a little peek at your track using Eleanor, keep up the good work~

    • @StardustLegend
      @StardustLegend 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@joezcafe omg thank you so much!! >v< I really appreciate the fact that you took time to check out my music. I definitely plan on using her MUCH more. Thanks again for showing me synth v!! I might even explore official vocaloid software once i get enough money

    • @user-ur5nb8yy4i
      @user-ur5nb8yy4i 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Porter Robison used a vocaloid too but I don't remember the song! Keep in your work 😊✨

    • @fr3ak1ng0ut8
      @fr3ak1ng0ut8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Irene Orbit he used AVANNA in “sad machine”, but i believe he also used elements of her voice in “goodbye to a world”, the closing song on the album :]

    • @PlasticKnight
      @PlasticKnight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FR3AK1NG0UT he also used it in fresh static snow as far as I know??

  • @_meldrop_
    @_meldrop_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +727

    Me yelling abt how no one but ghost uses vflower correctly. Edit: I was wrong!!!!! Thank you for the wonderful creator suggestions- vflower is my favorite vocaloid ;;

    • @soilology
      @soilology 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      EXACTLY!!

    • @irodescence
      @irodescence 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That’s very true

    • @davr9930
      @davr9930 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So true

    • @archivebeetlejuicelocklear7758
      @archivebeetlejuicelocklear7758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Linken Lasly i nearly lost it when i saw appetite of a people pleaser in the background vid

    • @Domiyu
      @Domiyu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I wouldn't say Ghost uses her correctly. Instead, exploits her to sound amazing

  • @monodomanik2360
    @monodomanik2360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +449

    vocaloids:"musical Google translate"
    me:pretty accurate
    Google:comes out with a voicebank

    • @itsmel8142
      @itsmel8142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Monodomanik whhhhaaaaaaaaaaattttt??

    • @Neverbackdown0714
      @Neverbackdown0714 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Google has a voice bank?!

    • @Neverbackdown0714
      @Neverbackdown0714 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      What is it called?!

    • @EstEsreil
      @EstEsreil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Neverbackdown0714 idk the name but you know how like with Google translate you have this thing where you can listen to what words sound like.

    • @loliezz8461
      @loliezz8461 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EstEsreil oh…

  • @strain42
    @strain42 5 ปีที่แล้ว +595

    Soooooooo...Hatsune Miku isn't just a Persona 4 character? :P
    Real talk, dude. This was an amazingly well done, incredibly well thought out video. Major kudos to you.

    • @kibaakuma5172
      @kibaakuma5172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Strain42 wait... she’s..... not.....?

    • @moomuun
      @moomuun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kibaakuma5172 I'm noT utgvbmjlbi huj,v chbcmn

  • @katresan1059
    @katresan1059 5 ปีที่แล้ว +352

    Yuyoyuppe and Utsu-P changed the game not only in Vocaloid but also in japanese metal in general and mainstream jpop industry. If it weren't for them, idol metal probably wouldn't exist today. Same with Hachi (a.k.a. Kenshi Yonezu) and wowaka (RIP) becoming some of the most important jrock artists of the contemporary era. Also, cosMo@Bousou-P was the first Vocalo-P I got hooked with and god, his music is so unique and beautiful.

    • @leroidethunes3913
      @leroidethunes3913 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      i couldn't have said It better, you forgot Okame-P and 164 though

    • @annaferns1840
      @annaferns1840 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I'd say Jin. He influenced the industry when it came to the story aspect. It got to the point where his series got an anime (Mekakucity Actors)

    • @Sora-dragneel
      @Sora-dragneel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      yeah yuyoyuppe made some song for Babymetal... those song have this balance of idol and metal... idk how to explain it

    • @ThatHawksSimp
      @ThatHawksSimp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ah yes, the many beautiful works of cosMo, such as Sadistic Music Factory and, of course, Magical Kitty Len Len
      lmao

    • @tumbke
      @tumbke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Kenshi Yonezu has been extremely popular and successful nowadays, providing opening songs for anime like Boku no Hero as well as music for dramas and anime films (with songs sung by BTS Jungkook in one of their concerts nonetheless!). He’s expanding his horizons and I’m surprised he wasn’t mention here lmao

  • @youngsoundp
    @youngsoundp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    4:46 sachiko reacting to her vocaloid like a baby is PRICELESS

  • @megmoore8681
    @megmoore8681 5 ปีที่แล้ว +256

    This is an excellent intro to vocal synths, I braced myself for false information but was pleasantly surprised by how well put together this was. You have a producer's stamp of approval.

    • @joezcafe
      @joezcafe  5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      That’s a relief! I was afraid my lack of general music/theory knowledge was gonna hold me back, thanks!

    • @9r0t0typ3
      @9r0t0typ3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      2 year update, producer for like 8 years just getting into vocaloids for complete control of my art and this is a nice bit of info for how to get into vocaloids

  • @mary34channel
    @mary34channel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    I have to tip my nonexistent hat to you cause a video this long must have been a pain to edit
    Edit: Also hell yeah another KurageP stan!
    (semi related, those clips of Sachiko are the purest thing in the world, bless this woman)

    • @joezcafe
      @joezcafe  5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I want to adopt her as my grandmother, we stan.
      Thanks very much! I wouldn't say it's my best work but it was certainly time consuming, the editing alone started sometime in late January
      (´⊙ω⊙`)

    • @mel646
      @mel646 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kurage P stans rise up

  • @StudioVOXYZ
    @StudioVOXYZ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    This is one of the absolute best "intro to VOCALOID" videos I've ever seen! Wonderfully comprehensive and well-edited. I'll definitely be sharing this around!

  • @stkarmi
    @stkarmi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Ik this is old but are we not gonna talk about how smoothly he pulled out that phone?

  • @kendall7752
    @kendall7752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Really like this video. I read that hastune miku was performing at coachella and i knew that she was a vocaloid character but i didnt know a lot about vocaloid so i wanted to learn more about it. Im happy i found this video because it gave me a new perspective on vocaloid as a genre and respect for the people who make the songs

  • @amaya-p7663
    @amaya-p7663 5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Recommendations:
    Ghosts and Pals (English) - showed up in the video, dark alternative genre, Appetite of the People Pleaser and the Communications Series are the best. Creep-P (English) - creepy themed songs with an upbeat-creepy sound to them, most popular songs based on the internet horror series Don’t Hug Me I’m Scared, such as Father and Eat. Jin/Shizen No Teki-P (Japanese) - His most popular series Kagerou Project was turned into an anime, manga and light novel series, definitely worth a listen especially Heat Haze Daze, which was the song that got me into Vocaloid. Neru/Oshiire-P (Japanese) - the master of alternative edge (if that’s a thing), mainly uses Rin and Len and has awesome music videos for most of his songs, World Domination How To and Jailbreak are some of his best in my opinion. Wowaka (Japanese) - sadly he passed away earlier this year, he will be missed greatly by all those who enjoy his music. His best and most popular including Rolling Girl and Unhappy Refrain.
    :D

  • @Boristic
    @Boristic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    I love Deco*27 for great beats and Hitoshizuku-P x Yama for beautiful story telling.
    Edit: I forgot to mention an extremely underrated producer. His name is horizon-p. Makes great Spanish songs with extremely catchy beats and his stuff is truly different from what the community can offer. Idk anyone else who produces Vocaloid songs like he does.

    • @snowshower4415
      @snowshower4415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you have a link to one of horizon-p's songs or their channel?

  • @handracorokan
    @handracorokan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    My favorite is Akuno-P (mothy) because he tells a very convoluted story using Vocaloids!
    In the Evillious Chronicle, I actually prefer ぜんまいじかけのこもりうた (Clockwork Lullaby) over 悪のめしつかい (Servant of Evil).

  • @Janet9148
    @Janet9148 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Thanks for the video! I’ve been a fan of vocaloid since 2010 but i havent seen such an informative video like this
    I also sort of fell out of it since its such a huge community
    I know new fans will def appreciate this
    Wish i had it back then

  • @koichithehamonconsumer5211
    @koichithehamonconsumer5211 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I could literally hear the Eve song in my head

    • @mafu_ne
      @mafu_ne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I know I'm late but...Yeah I could hear it too

  • @Whack0
    @Whack0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    For mobile,
    So, you wanna learn about Vocaloid
    3:53
    So, you wanna listen to Vocaloid
    11:46
    So, you wanna use Vocaloid
    21:43

  • @allysond-r4191
    @allysond-r4191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I love Reol! She's awesome as a producer :)
    I also wanna say that as a baby Vocaloid fan, this helped so much. And for the other baby Vocaloid fans, if you want to get more songs for the playlists, please invest in a project diva game! it really helped so much and increased my playlist by the minute!

  • @HeatherGg15
    @HeatherGg15 5 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    What the heck I just learned the lead singer of Mili wrote Tarantula and I honestly don't know how to handle that

    • @joezcafe
      @joezcafe  5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Ah yes, the rite of passage for every Mili stan.

  • @mafu_ne
    @mafu_ne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Just a recommendation: If you want to hear more songs by the kagamine twins (specially Rin) I really recommend Neru, in my opinion he is the best artist when it comes to the kagamine. But be careful to not mistake her with a vocaloid who is also called Neru

  • @leanicole2853
    @leanicole2853 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    DECO*27 provides me with the angst and loud songs I need... Ghost Rule continues to be my favorite song
    GHOST is lovely as well, though I’ve gotten into them recently so I’m not sure how to describe why I like them
    Jubyphonic, while not my favorite, is a really good cover artist who consistently puts out content! Very good, I’d recommend

  • @jesterpng
    @jesterpng 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    GHOST was one of the first producers that got me into listening to Vocaloids outside of just Miku, Len and Run, and Luka. I have a LOT of nostalgia for their songs but holy HELL are they good. My personal favorites are some of their recent stuff like The Chattering Lack of Common Sense and Honey, I’m Home. I love the amount of story they get across while still leaving a lot up for interpretation!

  • @eienryucho6648
    @eienryucho6648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    *I watched all 50 minutes and twelve seconds.* It both motivated and discouraged me but I guess have more information now, and I have a general image of all the things I've seen and wanted in this fandom.. This community.
    I wish everyone a good producing/cover-making career and if you're just a listener a great new playlist in the future! Thanks again, Creator 😊

  • @swampghost835
    @swampghost835 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    me: *a vocaloid fan since fourth grade*
    also me: *watches this video*

  • @MikuMikuGaming
    @MikuMikuGaming ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ive also got a list of songs i would recommend!
    -Kimi no taion Kuwagata-p
    -Machine gun poem doll by comso-p
    -jigsaw puzzle by Mafumafu
    -Leia by Yuyoyuppe
    -Meiteki cybernetics otetsu
    -Gaikotsu gakudan to riria by Thoma
    -Babylon by Thoma
    -Envy catwalk also by Thoma
    -anything from Utsu-p, if you like rock/metal
    -Karakuri pierrot 40meterP
    -Deniparadigm by Lumo

  • @gh0stsyndr0me40
    @gh0stsyndr0me40 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    my favourite artist is probably Mitchie-M!!! Their tuning is SO GOOD like the most realistic tuning I've heard on a Vocaloid and the songs are so cute :)

  • @ardent-ace27
    @ardent-ace27 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    all i'm going to say is, if you want to get into MEIKO then you need to find a song that tunes her well. she's quite difficult, and so many people try to make her a kawaii idol like miku. which doesn't show her off at all. her voice sounds best in an alto range, otherwise she sounds... strained.
    please don't ruin best girl, okay?

    • @aisekrem3216
      @aisekrem3216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Same with KAITO :((

    • @latia876
      @latia876 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love her cover for The Snow White Princess, tubed by Kyaami

  • @mikokagamine7185
    @mikokagamine7185 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I love Jin-P! Kagerou Project is a masterpiece with amazing plot and awsome songs

  • @LycorisLilyP
    @LycorisLilyP 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My favourite vocaloid artist is definitely circusP. I've been listening to their songs for months and there's such a wide array of both vocaloids and music genres covered in his work and he is great at making the vocaloids sound like they really do have emotions, like with 1/4. Definitely do recommend to anyone that hasn't heard any of his songs.
    And great video! If popular voice banks weren't so expensive I'd like to try them, so if I do get one someday I'll be coming back to this video and the others you mentioned.

  • @mychannel-qu4gb
    @mychannel-qu4gb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When u enter vocaloid
    It becomes a part of you and you will always come back even if you forgot it existed for 5 years

  • @High89OO
    @High89OO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When I searched up how to tune vocaloid and I kept seeing this video and didn’t click it because I thought it was for people who didn’t know what a vocaloid is but I clicked on it now and I learned SO MUCH about handling he software!

  • @aves4270
    @aves4270 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Absolutly wondeful video! I know how hard you worked on this thing. Im so proud of how it came out!

  • @Adamsmithstock
    @Adamsmithstock 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Landed here after having a blast with 'The tale of a 10 year old vampire' by CircusP and a few 'VOCALOID' googling.
    I wanted to thanks the author. Very good content, educative yet entertaining. The fact that I could watch the whole 50mn with no pause proves it.
    Also, it's great that you posted all the links about the things you've evoked. I want you to know that this extra work is very much appreciated.
    Subbed and liked video to rewatch it later. Thanks again for your work sir ♥

  • @sike7770
    @sike7770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Idk if anyone will see this comment, but vocaloid also has what are essentially musicals too! The earliest being The Story of Evil by Akuno-P, and most popular being Kagerou Project by Jin (which was adapted into an anime called Mekakucity Actors that cut most of the songs and had a rushed ending… rip). Some others that I know and love is Stellar Paradigm by Dasu and Parties are for Losers by Ferry. If your interested in a artists using vocaloid to tell their stories, these are all a great time! There aren’t too many that I know of though, it’s a lot harder to find this particular kind of story telling when it comes to vocaloid being so big. If anyone knows of some others, please let me know!

  • @eMe_peridot_hare
    @eMe_peridot_hare 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Hey, I just discovered your channel through the Mega 39's video, and it's refreshing to have someone review the Project Diva games who so completely knows their shoot when it comes to not only the games, but also Vocaloid in general. Looking forward to this documentary!
    Also I'd just like to point out that seeing the gritty, solemn PV for Sand Planet accompanied by Ai Kotoba's cheerful notes at 1:48 destroyed me entirely
    Update: 19:21 FUCK yeah PinocchioP!!!! Absolute favourite producer

  • @bombdiggity5594
    @bombdiggity5594 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This was a really well done video, and you recommended some absolute bangers. Bless you for all the effort you put into this, and thank you! This was all pretty educational, and you clearly have a knack for TH-cam because it wasnt painful to watch lmao

  • @cheesumworld
    @cheesumworld 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i feel like videos like these (historically) haven't been the most informed but this time around i'm pleasantly surprised ^_^ amazing job !

    • @joezcafe
      @joezcafe  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      OH SHIT IT'S CHEESUM.
      Thank you so much! I'm glad you liked it ~

  • @salt4811
    @salt4811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    God damn, where where you like, forever ago? Dude, honestly needed this for so long!

  • @FwapoMcGee
    @FwapoMcGee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Also check out cillia (kyaami)! Mostly covers of songs by different Vocaloids or UTAU with her recently coming out with her first original song. Girl’s got a gift for tuning!

  • @ashardoftablecheese809
    @ashardoftablecheese809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you have no idea how happy i am that ghost and pals was mentioned

  • @Tomoitochan
    @Tomoitochan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm from the old days of Vocaloid so I'm really into Mothy and HitoshizukuYama. Those good old intricate stories are just up my alley and I love it. Besides seeing the development of the 7 Sins series is a big thing for me.

  • @ShinobuX99
    @ShinobuX99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've had an interest in wanting to give synthetic vocals a try for a long time, as I enjoy messing around with music but have nobody to sing for me.
    Making use of Vocaloid has always seemed like a really appealing option to me, but I've always been highly apprehensive towards the idea due to having no idea where to start or how to learn to use the software. I never knew that there existed so many resources online that were in the English language, so I highly appreciate being pointed in the right direction thanks to this video, and being given so many wonderful tips and resources to check out.
    It was very motivating to watch this, and I now have every intention of giving this stuff a try. I'm sure that I will struggle at first, but knowing that there are so many resources to rely on is a comforting realization.
    A huge thanks for making this wonderfully detailed video.

  • @ClexPlay
    @ClexPlay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’ve been listening to vocaloid since the fifth grade as my mom is Japanese and I have tons of Japanese influence on my life. I love the songs and wish we could get a big boom like kpop

  • @keirataylor824
    @keirataylor824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I absolutely LOVE Jin. His storytelling is just so captivating to me and I love the music he makes too, it sounds wonderful.

  • @mabithebard
    @mabithebard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My favorite producers:
    Harumaki Gohan
    Siinamota
    Kururingo

  • @kiuche5607
    @kiuche5607 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I LOVE YOU, YOU SAVED MY LIFE REALLY THIS IS SO HELPFUL 😭

  • @chlover3608
    @chlover3608 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    thankyou for this video its great that people have a way of being introduced into vocaloid with less misconceptions. Also ty for showing love to KIRA bc theyre my favourite english producer and need more love than they already get

  • @greyva22717
    @greyva22717 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joez you are one of my new favorite youtubers. Love the way you write/speak in your videos and I can tell that you put a lot of effort into them. Keep being awesome!

  • @NelsonStJames
    @NelsonStJames 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Damn, I didn't realize we were up to Vocaloid 5!

  • @TyrroSpace
    @TyrroSpace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I suddenly have so much more appreciation, which is impressive because I already had a lot of appreciation for vocaloid and the work that goes into it

  • @ThatHawksSimp
    @ThatHawksSimp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Me, practically a Vocaloid Veteran: *watches anyway*

  • @rinku_yay
    @rinku_yay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You helped so much one year ago and i am grateful... this seriously needs millions of views its truly informative and well-made

    • @joezcafe
      @joezcafe  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much for the kind words

  • @MarvinValentinP
    @MarvinValentinP 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dude, this is really interesting, I would recommend doing a channel talking of vocaloid stuff, because there isn't too much this type of videos and I know you can do a great job, like you did like this, Also it helps for us producers learn stuff and help the community have more info about vocaloid and the people doing the songs. Anyway, great job ;D

  • @cinnamonfairyfluff
    @cinnamonfairyfluff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This deserves so many more views! Your vid helps a lot. I've known of, and enjoyed a few vocaloid songs in the past, and I pretty much only know the basic info. I've been trying to get more into the fandom more, and this'll help a lot.

  • @somerandomidiot8050
    @somerandomidiot8050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of my favorite Vocaloid artists is Mafumafu! He mostly does vocaloid covers and original music, but he's made quite a few songs with Kagamine Len. His take on Len is one of the most unique I've heard

  • @natarindayoo
    @natarindayoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a long time fan, I love that the first song you recommended was ODDS&ENDS. Now it's someone else's first one. Thank you!

  • @JuKayVid
    @JuKayVid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video man! I might actually use this for my next assignment :D

  • @BadgersDen
    @BadgersDen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As someone who was aware of Vocaloids for many years but never really looked anything past the surface hatsune miku, this was *extremely* interesting and useful information, even though I doubt I'll be using the software anytime soon, simply knowing the backstory behind it and how it works (and this isn't even looking at the "So you want to use vocaloid" section) was VERY much interesting and it almost makes me want to try making a voice bank or something for personal use or just generally want to use vocaloid itself! (Though the price tag is certainly something I'll have to factor since I'm not a musician)

  • @elenp2265
    @elenp2265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All the artists and songs he put in the listening to vocaloid are amazing and VERY valid, I’m just kind of shocked Wowaka isn’t on the list. I was 100% expecting him to be up there because his songs are some of the most iconic in the community. It’s nice to bring the other artists that spotlight though, VERY good lineup.

  • @garfieldorangecat8081
    @garfieldorangecat8081 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Throw that crap to the wall and see if it sticks" Is probably the best advice I ever got from TH-cam.

  • @lrialthedreamer2276
    @lrialthedreamer2276 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I got into Vocaloid because of Coma back when i am all over Cytus, because I just discovered it was in my language (Filipino) and thus I also found another person who does Filipino Vocaloid songs with great storyline, Dasu, they just finished the song series they are going to make a comic about, the songs are catchy

    • @brettshair3151
      @brettshair3151 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yesss!!!!! Queen Dasu is great!!!

  • @maddyplassmeyer6717
    @maddyplassmeyer6717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i’ve been a fan of GHOST and Creep-P for a long time, and was always like “huh, what’s this vocaloid nonsense? welp, that can’t be helped!” but this is really helpful to understand what i’m listening to!!

  • @TheAmandaFaulkner
    @TheAmandaFaulkner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    Who here cause there kid is obsessed and you don’t know wtf there talking bout cause your 29 and officially old

    • @allysond-r4191
      @allysond-r4191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      this was written 3 months ago, but parent of the year award goes to you officially

    • @annaferns1840
      @annaferns1840 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      👏👏👏

    • @ihrtaida
      @ihrtaida 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Oddly specific, but I applaud you

    • @tybg111
      @tybg111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Their*

    • @tybg111
      @tybg111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *they’re

  • @guidingchaos1039
    @guidingchaos1039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have taken that full plunge and I'm rewatching this video to remind myself why I joined this amazing community in the first place

  • @vbsenthusiast
    @vbsenthusiast 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    here are my personal recommendations for new vocaloid fans!
    -deco*27 (japanese): he was one of my first producers, and his music is pretty catchy! his musical style has changed over his career, and it's interesting to follow that change through his music. two good songs by him are two breaths walking and ghost rule.
    nostraightanswer (english): his music is sort of similar to circusp's, but it's a bit more calm and contemplated. he also tunes avanna very well, and he provided dex's voice! two good songs by him are wishing well and pushing daises.
    seeeecun (japanese): their music is a very agressive rockish style, so if that's your thing, i recommend giving them a try! two good songs by them are disappearing in a cloud of smoke and lofi times.

  • @ryebread532
    @ryebread532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's an amazing FREE vocal synth called Alter/Ego by Plogue, which I think is relatively easy to program, and comes with 1 male and 1 female voicebank, both having ENG and JAP variations, Talking, and singing variations, and I know there's at least 1 other voicebank you can find online that was dropped from development. It works more like a normal software synth, where it takes the midi from your DAW, and the new notes trigger the next syllable from the text input, and if the next note overlaps with the last it will stay on the same syllable (I believe, I haven't used it in a while so don't quote me), which is basically like a note pad, and you just write out your lyrics, either in the standard format (I believe only ENG and JAP are the available languages right now, except there is a 3rd party voicebank that also does french) or the phonetic panel, which kinda translates what you typed into the closest phonetics, but you can use the phonetics on the standard tab as well and if you're creative can make excellent pronunciations. You can use automation in your DAW to adjust things like pitch, vibrato, gender factor, and any other parameter.

  • @名称不明-v4m
    @名称不明-v4m 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had the same thought when I saw fragment of vocaloid concert for the first time: "oh look a fancy vocalist is hiding behind the scene, putting some autotune and advertise as virtual character" ...and year later I learnt that reality is even more crazier...
    About artist recommendations: don't forget about fantastic trance music producers: Aura Qualic, Blue Twinkle, Clean Tears and 鼻そうめん.

  • @chantolove
    @chantolove 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m so glad you showed GHOST off so much here :’)

  • @caesar5025
    @caesar5025 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is such a well made video?? I'm surprised at how little views and comments it has...

  • @hinomorishiholovebot3482
    @hinomorishiholovebot3482 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    _i watched the whole video twice and i still have no idea what i want to do in terms of purchasing them i think i am gOING TO CRY_

  • @bluequartzdragon
    @bluequartzdragon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    * sees "Growl" in the 2nd section of the video *
    "AW HECK YEAH."

  • @1000dotse
    @1000dotse หลายเดือนก่อน

    Using this and your newer video, "So you wanna get into VSynth covers", for my 8th grade creative-works project. Thank you. I'll give an update on how it turns out.

  • @Zer0_ooo
    @Zer0_ooo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    THIS IS SO UNDERRATED. Very helpful, thank you.

  • @EzyoMusic
    @EzyoMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a musician and producer. I've worked with vocalists. Time for something else. I've known about vocaloid for a while but as with many things for me, it took a while to gain traction with me. I've been on a vocaloid kick lately and I guess nothing is stopping me from having a go at it myself. Thanks for the rundown!

  • @hineraable
    @hineraable 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    26:35
    There Is also a Vocaloid that sings in Catalan.

    • @joezcafe
      @joezcafe  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Right you are! ONA if I remember right, I think she technically shares voicebanks with MAIKA, who uses Spanish samples, so I didn’t add it to the list.

    • @alex-8736
      @alex-8736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joezcafe Ona is an alternative design to Maika when she sings in Catalan, they don't share voicebanks, it's just that Maika has extra samples to sing in catalan

    • @ana_26___
      @ana_26___ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jaja lol
      (Jaja is haha in spanish)

  • @mrpickles137
    @mrpickles137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:22 BARKING SCREAMING CRYING I LOVE GHOST AND APPETITE OF A PEOPLE PLEASER IS ONE OF MY FAV SONGS BY THEM

  • @URAYsan
    @URAYsan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    hey
    this video is pretty rad
    thanks for sharing buckeroo

  • @Xav1er_Zay
    @Xav1er_Zay 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    show this to every yt short vocaloid “fan”.

  • @maggiemcdonald2251
    @maggiemcdonald2251 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i sent this to my brother saying "join me" because he always talks about miku.. *only miku.* so he's gonna join me in the pit of darkness that is the vocaloid fandom

  • @lornanana
    @lornanana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i've been a vocaloid fan for over 8 years, there's nothing left for me to learn but will i watch this video in it's entirety? absolutely

  • @harumin1765
    @harumin1765 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ah recommending Circus and Kikuo, Perfection

  • @aa-zb1jf
    @aa-zb1jf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know I'm late to comment, but I'm still here to do so.Exactly one year ago i had wanted to know all about Hatsune Miku specifically.At first i thought it was an anime(i am so disappointed in myself for thinking that),but then i stumbled upon this video.Now i support all of these artsit and am sharing this video with many people around the world, so they can know what they're missing out on.I encourage people on roblox to either watch this or recommend songs to them, and now all of them are now listening to the masterpiece called vocaloid.I send people this video to know gow awesome this community is and and I'm proud to be a part of it

  • @CaptainNim
    @CaptainNim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the incredibly in depth video! Watched all of it. My brain hurts.

    • @joezcafe
      @joezcafe  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it!

  • @vintasaru
    @vintasaru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i dont know why but i just-- i'm just happy to see a fellow ghost fan. i'm a ghost and pals obsessed vocaloid fan and i just,,

  • @thepowerisyetunknown7710
    @thepowerisyetunknown7710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    38:28 YES! OLIVER REPRESENTATION!

  • @glob567
    @glob567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i cannot imagine how much time was effort was put into this video, respect and thank you

  • @user-rb4cj7mb8f
    @user-rb4cj7mb8f 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Some more recommendations of producers (w a song that comes to mind) I make for anyone who wants to dive in: Niru Kajitsu (Wozwald), Neru (iiya iiya iiya), Kairiki Bear (Ángel), MikotoP (Roki), Seeeeecun (vanishing like most), 3/すりぃ/Surii (Ego Rock), 164 (Madman’s March), Nyanyannya (Doctor = Funk Beat), Hachiya Nanashi (Happy Shape), Hachi/Kenshi Yonezu, Eve, and Yoh Kamiyama(i cant choose a single song to recommend for any of them, they’re all great. Also check out their non vocaloid work and self covers), there are plenty more but i cant make this comment any longer
    Also! Utaites! I recommend Sou, Mafumafu, Miyashita Yuu, 96Neko, Soraru, SymaG, Reol, Araki, (i think eve can also fit on this list?) etc
    And English: Oktavia and Will Stetson!
    Yikes this is long

    • @aisekrem3216
      @aisekrem3216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hold on- You're telling me that Yoh is a vocaloid producer *as well* ? Damn, and I thought I was a vocaloid fan...

  • @TakoyakiDonuts
    @TakoyakiDonuts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry if I’m the annoying person who needs to point out errors. This is actually a really helpful video for newcomers regardless of my nagging. I just felt the need to point out that the character vocal series started with Miku after Meiko and Kaito released. They are still PiaPro characters but they are not part of the character vocal series, they did play a big role in vocaloids popularity and success though. All character vocal series vocaloids are Miku, Rin and Len, Luka, and CV04 who has not had any development in years.

    • @joezcafe
      @joezcafe  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Izzmations Oh I’m aware dw!
      I just felt clarifying as such would be unnecessary fluff that would pad things and make the structure of that paragraph less organised.

  • @pio0055
    @pio0055 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had trouble trying to figure out whether this was an anime or dance game but its neither

  • @0ccultic
    @0ccultic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    for any people looking for more horror inspired vocaloid tracks, my go to and favorite producer is machigerita-p. while he's no longer in the scene and the majority of his music is from the very early days of the subgenre, he's created some of the most haunting pieces the community has to offer such as dark wood circus, rotten girl grotesque romance, a full course for candy addicts and so much more. his work has always stuck with me because it doesn't really on viscera to be scary, rather the emotions of the characters in his works. he also has a cover album that i would highly recommend listening to, his voice is amazing and provides a bit more flavor to the original tracks. i would also highly recommend hachi, another artist who has left the scene and has a lot of horror based work. his albums are readily available on spotify and his unique instrumentation makes his work well worth a listen. id personally recommend listening to his album "official orange", which contains some of his best work.

  • @kalmiadoe6353
    @kalmiadoe6353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For new comers who wish to know the music history of Vocaloid, Hall of Fame songs, songs that changed the Vocaloid scene, and big producers in the day, I recommend checking out “Vocaloid History Lesson - A Basic Guide to Vocaloid Culture Over the Years!” on Reddit by u/Pompmaker1. This is a compiled list of historically significant/popular songs since the release of Hatsune Miku in 2007. This is meant to give newcomers the same progressive journey they would have had if they had first experience Vocaloid back in its inception.

  • @ViVix1998
    @ViVix1998 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    istg as an English Major, you put my years of studying phonemes to shame... UmU
    and I also realized how Vocaloid forces you to semi-learn a new language thru the most basic units... interesting

  • @DoeZeo
    @DoeZeo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thx alot for this! Am going to a concert soon with my sister but know next to nothing about this stuff :p

  • @guidingchaos1039
    @guidingchaos1039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ive been softcore into vocaloid for a while and I'm trying to take the full plunge and I've been trying to broaden my horizons so this video is very helpful