An extra detail for you: after Ornstein absorbs Smough, not only does he adopt the famous ground pound attack, he also inherits Smough's laugh, and laughs during the attack! Check out our deep dive into Smough here: th-cam.com/video/ROYda8wcb38/w-d-xo.html
I always thought smoughs voice was echoing around the arena, but it bouncing around inside his metal suit makes far more sense. Such great sound design
@Beezer1742 You wouldn't need to listen carefully if it was portrayed using clear sound design. Besides, you don't need your ears much for most dark souls bosses
The double fake-out with the helmet is clever. Armour works best when it leaves room between metal and body to absorb blows. The usual problem with full helms is that the only way to see through them is to press one's face right up against the holes/slits, leaving very little space for shock absorption. _Notice how the bit of armour with false eyes bulges outwards. It's perfectly shaped to deflect/absorb blows._ This deceptive strategy is utilized all throughout the armour. Smough isn't fat according to his concept art. The bulbous shape of his armour exists entirely to deflect blows and make enemies assume it reflects the anatomy within. Even the man-boobs were designed well. Normally boob-armour is extremely flawed because the cleavage directs force right into the sternum. Yet here they very intentionally shape the armour to avoid such a flaw. If an attacker tries striking Smough's heart, they will not only aim in the wrong place, but also strike a portion of the armour well-shaped to deflect a blow.
Thats crazy they belived women werent strong or smart enough to own and tend land by themselves, but they could wear a 70lbs suit of steal and go to war commanding brigades and regiments alongside generals
I found it funny how Ornstein shows reverence to his fallen comrade when absorbing him, while Smough just turns him into a fucking pancake and basically eats him with his hammer when its his turn. 💀
Either Smough is very heartless, or Ornstein was just an illusion the whole time. I think it could be both, and Smough doesn’t care if he just killed the Captain of the Four Knights.
He didnt just do his duty he was the last defender everyone else both god and mortal has abandonded their duty or died. Then someone just like him a cannibal comes into the city and likely offered him power, riches and slaves to eat. Smough refused the easy out instead fighting to the end for the duty everyone else abandoned.
@@remrad4315 Dark Souls 3 it is revealed that the old dragonslayer (Orinstein) left to follow the Nameless King (Gwyn Unpersoned Firstborn) and his armor/corpse can be found nearby the nameless kings boss arena Meanwhile Smoughs armor can be bought after beating Aldrich (The guy who ate the God Gwyndolin) with the discription "Grotesque armor associated with Smough, the last knight to stand in defense of the ruined cathedral. Boasts extremely high defense and can be donned by humans, but not without great difficulty" Little of the lore is clear but the pieces we have here seem so
There is theory ornstein put down his duty as royal guard and begin his journey to find the nameless king and become a dragon-person himself like you see in dragon peak mountain in ds3.
In DS3 when you look up in Smough's armour description it is literally said that all this time Smough was ''the only knight left to protect Anor Londo'', so basically Ornstein is simply a phantom or projection/illusion created by Gwyndolin.
In DS3 Aldrich also ate Gwyndolyn, but I killed him in DS1, so maybe instead of making a crazy-ass claims that things with physical strenght, physical loot and souls are illusions, just maybe those are like different timelines? Or are you saying that the Silver Knights you run in in DS1 AND in DS3 are also illusions?
@@demilung probably both, by the way Gwendolyn is really huge master of illusions, to the point, where if you kill him or Guinevere not only sun disappeares, but also all of the enemy's.
@@Жнец-у6д I love this. For years, I've been loving this thing when people look at things present in that moment in the game and come to the conclusion that the disappearance of the knights, the giants and the Sun meant that Gwyndolin, despite being a really easy boss, had HUMONGOUS powers to create "illisions" that had physical strenght (unlike things named as illusions being easily destroyed by anything) wielded illusory gear that you can pick up and upgrade and some illusory weapons even have the divine blessing to destroy skeleots for good, and those illusions even give you souls. Because Gwyndolin having this completely made up and absurd power to make a deadly army of knights, giants and bat wing demons then dispelling it to send two blades of the dark moon to camp you makes just so much more sense than the guards of Anor Long who "stayed behind to protect their illusory goddess" just left once the goddess was gone. Because making up the power that Gwyndolin could make actual souls from nothing is easier than admitting that Dark Souls does progression of events in these state changes, like with all the quests and NPCs.
Maybe they are both illusions? Cuz in theory Smough was eaten by Aldritch much later. So, maybe these two are the impressions Gwendolyn had of them and that's why Smough is so sadistic while Ornstein is more noble. It's just the behaviour Gwendolyn THOUGHT they'd have based on his own opinion of them?
@@Aidan1488 i believe smough was actually there whereas ornstein was the illusion because smough never left his post and aldrich appeared in a far later cycle in which he rose to power and ate smough and gwyndolin.
Also, an executioner who uses a hammer? That's straight up sadistic. The axe and the guillotine were the chosen method of execution for their ability to instill fear in the crowds who would watch on in horror while the condemned would die swiftly. A hammer, (presumably) of solid metal with a diameter equal to that of a small car is quite brutal.
Given Smough’s size and strength. I imagine you would be essentially vaporized pretty quickly. I doubt many beings could survive a hammer that size being smashed down on them. And watching the condemned get straight-up pancaked is even more intimidating imo 😂
@@Matt-qv8lm Not always. People have suffered major skull injuries and survived. It's quite possible the first strike wouldn't kill you. It's such a sadistic way to execute someone to have to crush them to death.
Smoughs laugh is one of the only things that will shivers up my spine just because of the way the sounds, it’s human but also non-human it’s such a great sound effect for him
@@calvinball8 not that heavily, it's based on them both eating people and being executioners. But Aldrich is well, still Aldrich and he is from the cathedral of the deep and a lord of cinder, and it has vastly different abilities.
I think maybe the reasons why he laughs when he kills ornstein is A) Free power and B) It he gets some kind of euphoria realizing that he outlived the captain of the knights of Gywn
Always seen his crushing of ornstein as love for his friend. Ive noticed a pattern where love seems to be depicted be killing and basically absorbing the dying on. Like your marriage with Anri or Nameless king absorbing his dragon.
@@FighTThePower.Some peoples speaker audio comes out differently. Audio settings also make a difference. I never heard Smough laugh until today, and similarly i never heard Mohg, Lord of Blood snarl during some attacks until i watched my brother fight him. Small audio cues can get lost fairly easily. Plus it seems like Smough is more audible the closer you are, so with most people trying to kite Ornstein around while distancing Smough it makes sense this isn't as common of knowledge as one would think.
@@NuclearRizzicist u know what I just realized u guys must be playing without fiddling around with your settings I put music like at 4 and sound effects to like 6 out of 10 and voice maxed
I have this theory that smough is actually a mimic, there are quite a few reasons, but the biggest one is the laughter. It sounds like muffled mimic laughter. I encourage you to look into the theory if you are interested 👍
If I had been alone in the empty and heartless ruins of Anor Londo for however long and a worthy opponent finally entered my arena, I too would be overjoyed
Meanwhile even the Illusion of Ornstein is an honorable and respectful knight, gently placing his hand over his fallen comrade’s body in a show of gentleness and respect before borrowing Smough’s power to finish the battle. Meanwhile Smough is just the opposite in almost every regard.
@@Clonesoldier501People like to say that the Ornstein we see during the fight is an illusion since in Dark Souls 3 we learn that Ornstein abandoned his post and traveled the world to find the Nameless King. It's likely that the timeline is so convoluted that we saw the multiple fates of Ornstein.
@@Clonesoldier501 when you dissolve the illusion of Anor Londo in DS1 and make it sunless, some if not all of the Silver Knights disappeared. Gwyndolin revealed that Anor Londo was abandoned and all was illusions even the big titty godess, and the text in DS 3 revealed that Ornstein left Anor a long time ago.
@@falcoon_f_zero9450people doesn't say anything. And no one theory ornstein left anor londo because of the text in DS3, the text is to backup what Gwyndolin said in DS1. In DS 1 if you dissolve the illusions made by Gwyndolin and face the secret boss that is Gwyndolin himself, he will revealed to you that everyone have left Anor Londo and all that you have seen included the silver knights was all illusions created by his power
I'm currently farming medals for sunbros so i help other people with these two a lot. its hard to focus on sounds when you are doing it for yourself, but after dozens of fights you start to notice all these small things
The best part is that he gets his comeuppance when Aldrich invaded anor londo and ate him alive. The irony of the man named “smough the cannibal” being cannibalized himself is so great
Here's a few fun facts about Ornstein and Smough! 1. Ornstein is an executioner, his job is to kill people, and if not, finish them off, its easily possible that he knew Ornstein was still alive, but simply chose to finish him off 2. Ornstein is an illusion made by Gwyndolin so that Smough doesn't go insane because of his basically best friend's death 3. When you kill Smough first, Ornstein absorbs his power, but during the cutscene, he remains the same size, but its actually the room that gets shrunk. 4. Smough's name was made by just spelling "Sumo" in a fancy way, hence his sumo fighter-like appearance.
this is cool and if you say "sumo" the way it's said in japanese it actually does just sound like "smough". nothing at all like the english way of saying SUE-mo. in japanese its suMOU with a real quick almost devoiced "su".
Smough is not one of the four knights of Gwyn, what you mean with abandon his duty ? Gwyn's knights were Dragon Slayer Ornstein, Artorias the Abysswalker, Lord's Blade Ciaran and Hawkeye Gough. BTW that's not the real Ornstein in the fight.
@@demilungI think he meant of those who were on this (powerful) level, yes they still sat but as foot soldiers, odds were much higher they were killed (maybe even by other silver knights) for abandoning their post
"Worry not, my valiant comrade. I will avenge your death with everything in my power." "Smough, I am not dead." "I will even use your strength if it means to avenge my fallen brother." "What do you mean even my stre-"
I always found it so haunting that you can see Ornsteins hand twitching before he’s crushed by Smough, he was still alive and Smough delivered the final blow
Smough crushes Ornstein with glee because that isn't actually Ornstein his friend and compatriot. What you fight in DaS 1 is an illusion summoned by Gwyndolin. The real Ornstein left Lordran to find a cure for the Undead curse elsewhere, in Drangleic. The Ornstein you fight I'm DaS2 is the true one.
Yet we can get the actual soul of Ornstein in DS1, hinting he's real. And what about reading in DS3 that he had abandoned his post in search of the Nameless King? It's like the timeline is so convoluted that we see an alternate fate of Ornstein in each game. Or could it be (gasp*), a plothole? No, impossible.
@@gooeyking What you said might be true. Although Dark Souls 2 is very much canon. We get a lot of references to characters and places of DS2 in DS3, clearly showing DS2 was not written out.
@@gooeyking Two things though: first, there's a difference between leaving something open to interpretation, such as what is "The Deep" in DS3. There's a lot that's not spelled out for you. And then there's just direct retcons to major events that happened. It's just unusual for Dark Souls to so directly contradict previous events, which I don't remember it doing any other times. Second: If Dark Souls 2 is not canon then how do we find ourselves in the ruins of Earthen Peak in DS3? How do we find the shield of King Vendrick and the armors of Drang soldiers, warriors who were originally from Drangleic? Creighton returns in DS3, so does Alva and Zullie the Witch is also mentioned. Their lore has also stayed the same from DS2. If DS2 isn't canon you'd think their lore would be rewritten to reflect that. But DS3 does acknowledge events of DS2. Or is DS3 not canon either? XD
The ornsteins we fight in both ds1 and ds2 are almost certainly golems made with pieces of Ornsteins soul that he left behind for that purpose. Ds3 tells us explicitly he left to go find the firstborn
Somewhat reminiscent of the frog-mouth helms we see the Ruin Sentinels wearing as well. That’s probably more due to it being a good visor design than Drangleic being inspired, though.
I mean Giants are an oppresed race in dark souls and he was probably denied education and a good life and the only thing he knkws is voilence but that doesnt really esxuce him from his deeds
Smoughs laugh is just part of the track now I once listened to the OST and was so ready for the laughs that I wondered where they were until I then finally realised that they are not part of the OST
I think it’s his item description that also mentions he made himself taller inside the armor by stuffing the boots with the crushed bones of his victims. And not just that, those bones were rendered so by he himself, as he was a cannibal.
Smough was truly enlightened to the lie of the first flame. He understood his position as executioner, and took advantage of this to bottom feed off his victims. He fed off the table scraps from the ones above him, to gain their souls and become powerful.
Ornstein and Smough was without a doubt the hardest bossfight I’ve ever went against like just the idea of facing them again on normal difficult gives me PTSD flashbacks
The explanation for where he actually sees from felt like dropping weights that I have carried on my back until now. The idea of his eyes being on the armor's neck never made sense to me, because it would mean his eyes were at the same level of his shoulders, making it hard to imagine his anatomy. But this, this makes so much sense! Thanks a lot!
The glee of the next willingly approaching meal. He doesn't have to hunt when he uses the perfect bait: the lord vessel and the undead legend together.
An extra detail for you: after Ornstein absorbs Smough, not only does he adopt the famous ground pound attack, he also inherits Smough's laugh, and laughs during the attack!
Check out our deep dive into Smough here: th-cam.com/video/ROYda8wcb38/w-d-xo.html
I never noticed that! Probably because I always kill Ornstein first...
Ornstein becomes terrifying pt.1:
So it is related to his power, hmmm.
so maybe smough's power is somehow tied to his manic behaviour
the attention to detail in your videos and in FromSoftware games, holy...
I always thought smoughs voice was echoing around the arena, but it bouncing around inside his metal suit makes far more sense. Such great sound design
And makes it far more creepier
maybe the sound design wasnt so great if it didnt accurately convey that to you...
@@marcello9476did you ever play the game? This fight? You don’t exactly have the ability to carefully observe… well, much of anything at all.
@@marcello9476 this makes no sense
one person not getting one thing does not make said thing bad
@Beezer1742 You wouldn't need to listen carefully if it was portrayed using clear sound design. Besides, you don't need your ears much for most dark souls bosses
The double fake-out with the helmet is clever. Armour works best when it leaves room between metal and body to absorb blows. The usual problem with full helms is that the only way to see through them is to press one's face right up against the holes/slits, leaving very little space for shock absorption.
_Notice how the bit of armour with false eyes bulges outwards. It's perfectly shaped to deflect/absorb blows._
This deceptive strategy is utilized all throughout the armour. Smough isn't fat according to his concept art. The bulbous shape of his armour exists entirely to deflect blows and make enemies assume it reflects the anatomy within. Even the man-boobs were designed well. Normally boob-armour is extremely flawed because the cleavage directs force right into the sternum. Yet here they very intentionally shape the armour to avoid such a flaw. If an attacker tries striking Smough's heart, they will not only aim in the wrong place, but also strike a portion of the armour well-shaped to deflect a blow.
That...
Is actually really clever
if you ignore or cut the "face" armor, it kinda looks like a regular great helm like the stone armor one
Thats crazy they belived women werent strong or smart enough to own and tend land by themselves, but they could wear a 70lbs suit of steal and go to war commanding brigades and regiments alongside generals
I guess it makes sense for the plump chest piece lol
@@KarvyKlaugsILITERATE
I found it funny how Ornstein shows reverence to his fallen comrade when absorbing him, while Smough just turns him into a fucking pancake and basically eats him with his hammer when its his turn. 💀
Explain why?
Either Smough is very heartless, or Ornstein was just an illusion the whole time.
I think it could be both, and Smough doesn’t care if he just killed the Captain of the Four Knights.
@@thalaseamyst3934smough eats people
@@thalaseamyst3934bad friend :(
@@Anti-impalaDung eater
Remember, despite just how sadistic and evil this guy is, he still did his guard duty to his last breath trying to stop Aldritch
He didnt just do his duty he was the last defender everyone else both god and mortal has abandonded their duty or died. Then someone just like him a cannibal comes into the city and likely offered him power, riches and slaves to eat. Smough refused the easy out instead fighting to the end for the duty everyone else abandoned.
Or it is all just a lie and Smough and Aldritch are the same person
Where is everyone getting this from?
@@remrad4315 Dark Souls 3 it is revealed that the old dragonslayer (Orinstein) left to follow the Nameless King (Gwyn Unpersoned Firstborn) and his armor/corpse can be found nearby the nameless kings boss arena
Meanwhile Smoughs armor can be bought after beating Aldrich (The guy who ate the God Gwyndolin) with the discription "Grotesque armor associated with Smough, the last knight to stand in defense of the ruined cathedral.
Boasts extremely high defense and can be donned by humans, but not without great difficulty"
Little of the lore is clear but the pieces we have here seem so
@@killerhellhound ahh I see, I didn't remember, it has been years since I've played DS1 or 3
In my head cannon, he crushes ornstein before he dies so the soul is not absorved by his enemies, like the nameless king does to polly.
I wish that was true but that ornstien wasn't even the real one rather the true ornstien was disgusted by smough
@@yukanayame5984But it he know that he sawnt real?😊
@@yukanayame5984 thats true, that ornstein is not real, It was an illusion, but that illusion still give a soul when killed.
There is theory ornstein put down his duty as royal guard and begin his journey to find the nameless king and become a dragon-person himself like you see in dragon peak mountain in ds3.
is the nameless kings dragon actually called polly?
In DS3 when you look up in Smough's armour description it is literally said that all this time Smough was ''the only knight left to protect Anor Londo'', so basically Ornstein is simply a phantom or projection/illusion created by Gwyndolin.
In DS3 Aldrich also ate Gwyndolyn, but I killed him in DS1, so maybe instead of making a crazy-ass claims that things with physical strenght, physical loot and souls are illusions, just maybe those are like different timelines?
Or are you saying that the Silver Knights you run in in DS1 AND in DS3 are also illusions?
In this fight they're both illusions
@@Жнец-у6д So is the Leo ring an illusion and the effect of it pure placebo, or are these *illusions* wearing gear and having souls?
@@demilung probably both, by the way Gwendolyn is really huge master of illusions, to the point, where if you kill him or Guinevere not only sun disappeares, but also all of the enemy's.
@@Жнец-у6д I love this. For years, I've been loving this thing when people look at things present in that moment in the game and come to the conclusion that the disappearance of the knights, the giants and the Sun meant that Gwyndolin, despite being a really easy boss, had HUMONGOUS powers to create "illisions" that had physical strenght (unlike things named as illusions being easily destroyed by anything) wielded illusory gear that you can pick up and upgrade and some illusory weapons even have the divine blessing to destroy skeleots for good, and those illusions even give you souls.
Because Gwyndolin having this completely made up and absurd power to make a deadly army of knights, giants and bat wing demons then dispelling it to send two blades of the dark moon to camp you makes just so much more sense than the guards of Anor Long who "stayed behind to protect their illusory goddess" just left once the goddess was gone. Because making up the power that Gwyndolin could make actual souls from nothing is easier than admitting that Dark Souls does progression of events in these state changes, like with all the quests and NPCs.
The eye slits are similar to the silver knight helmets. I’m assuming both were created by the nameless blacksmith.
The markings are on the armor, so yeah.
The Super Mutant you mean 😂😂😂
Check out their lore vid on it- you’re right
@@_HierophantWhere exactly? I totally missed that.
Smough's eye slits remind me of basilisk's true eyes. Perhaps his armor was somewhat inspired by basilisks..?
I always thought that Smough didn't hesitate to kill Ornstein because he knew that he was an Illusion, and had long left Anor Londo.
Agree. It is written in the dragon slayer set in DS3 that Ornstein has left the land in search of the nameless king
And Smough's set says he is the last knight to stand in defense of the ruined cathedral. Ornstein in DS1 has to be an illusion.
Maybe they are both illusions? Cuz in theory Smough was eaten by Aldritch much later. So, maybe these two are the impressions Gwendolyn had of them and that's why Smough is so sadistic while Ornstein is more noble. It's just the behaviour Gwendolyn THOUGHT they'd have based on his own opinion of them?
@@Aidan1488 i believe smough was actually there whereas ornstein was the illusion because smough never left his post and aldrich appeared in a far later cycle in which he rose to power and ate smough and gwyndolin.
>kill illusion
>aquire Soul of Ornstein
Something doesn't quite add up, here.
Also, an executioner who uses a hammer? That's straight up sadistic. The axe and the guillotine were the chosen method of execution for their ability to instill fear in the crowds who would watch on in horror while the condemned would die swiftly. A hammer, (presumably) of solid metal with a diameter equal to that of a small car is quite brutal.
That's a hard call.
Smashed into the ground? God no.
Smacked in the head? Yes, please. You'll be out before your brain bounces the first time
Given Smough’s size and strength. I imagine you would be essentially vaporized pretty quickly. I doubt many beings could survive a hammer that size being smashed down on them.
And watching the condemned get straight-up pancaked is even more intimidating imo 😂
@@CheeseburgersAndBeeryes people would often bribe them to forego the usual sharpening before the execution.
@@Matt-qv8lm Not always. People have suffered major skull injuries and survived. It's quite possible the first strike wouldn't kill you. It's such a sadistic way to execute someone to have to crush them to death.
Imagine being sentenced to death and you walk to the gallows only to see a fat dude with a Volkswagen Beetle at the end of a stick.
Smoughs laugh is one of the only things that will shivers up my spine just because of the way the sounds, it’s human but also non-human it’s such a great sound effect for him
The fun thing with Smough is that from the concept art we can learn that he's not fat, but has a very muscular figure.
Chad smough getting extra protein from his victims 🗿 the whole thing was just to support the bulk
@@jooot_6850 The cut was indeed insane
I mean if you lugged around all that hammer wearing all that armour all day, you'd definitely be brolic as fuck
Is there an official source with the concept art? I've never looked at it before.
@@mujariwa3696 I think it was in an Artbook. But since I don't own one I can't tell you if it's within it
"Nice hot Smoughs"
"THEYRE CALLED SMORES BUZZ"
"HAS ANYONE REKINDLED THE FLAME, YET??"
honestly the eye slits being in that little illusion spot makes the helmet so much more cooler to look at
In a ironic twist of fate, smough who was known for eating those he executed, ended up being eaten by Aldrich.
How did you know that?
@@langleysenterprise5134 Aldrich is in Ornstein's and Smough's arena, and once you kill Aldrich you can get his armour.
Actually it’s heavily implied Aldrich is Smough.
@@calvinball8 not that heavily, it's based on them both eating people and being executioners.
But Aldrich is well, still Aldrich and he is from the cathedral of the deep and a lord of cinder, and it has vastly different abilities.
Ah, the irony is both the best and saddest part of these games.
I never realized that creepy sound he makes is him laughing. Makes me love his character even more
I think maybe the reasons why he laughs when he kills ornstein is A) Free power and B) It he gets some kind of euphoria realizing that he outlived the captain of the knights of Gywn
Ornstein is already dead in the events of Dark Souls 1, I do believe he's simply a psychopath, desentisized due to killing so many people
@@plasmaflippy9376he is not dead, he is away in search of the nameless king
@plasmaflippy9376 isnt that smough?
Its not the real Ornstein though and Smough is well aware of this
I like to think that it's simply "Smashing a motherfucker makes me feel joy", which is why he also laughs while trying to smash the player character.
Smough is the coworker that will take your food out the office fridge
This game keeps blowing my mind
U can blow my mind..
You can blow my…
@@mrmoedinipause
@@mrmoedini😳
@@mrmoediniyo chill
Always seen his crushing of ornstein as love for his friend. Ive noticed a pattern where love seems to be depicted be killing and basically absorbing the dying on. Like your marriage with Anri or Nameless king absorbing his dragon.
Never realized Smough laughs through the whole fight 😰
How?
@@FighTThePower.Too focused on fighting and the music to notice
@@StoniTheOni even with all that I could still hear it Everytime he attacks
@@FighTThePower.Some peoples speaker audio comes out differently. Audio settings also make a difference. I never heard Smough laugh until today, and similarly i never heard Mohg, Lord of Blood snarl during some attacks until i watched my brother fight him. Small audio cues can get lost fairly easily. Plus it seems like Smough is more audible the closer you are, so with most people trying to kite Ornstein around while distancing Smough it makes sense this isn't as common of knowledge as one would think.
@@NuclearRizzicist u know what I just realized u guys must be playing without fiddling around with your settings I put music like at 4 and sound effects to like 6 out of 10 and voice maxed
I have this theory that smough is actually a mimic, there are quite a few reasons, but the biggest one is the laughter. It sounds like muffled mimic laughter. I encourage you to look into the theory if you are interested 👍
If I had been alone in the empty and heartless ruins of Anor Londo for however long and a worthy opponent finally entered my arena, I too would be overjoyed
YES YES YES FINALLY SOMEONE WOOHOO LESSS GOOOO !
I guess even with Gwynevere's mighty assets, once you know it's all an illusion, it's just not the same anymore 😓
That is not the deal here.
Smough simply has always been like this.
Mmk bro
I'm pretty sure he ate people before we even meet hum
The little things that get put into these games like the twitching hand of ornstein before smough crushes him, is what makes these games so special
Another fun fact is that the man is so unstable that he grinds his victims bones into his soup or chilli to eat them similar to Leatherface
Have you ever had a good marrow stew? If not, don't judge leatherface.
Meanwhile even the Illusion of Ornstein is an honorable and respectful knight, gently placing his hand over his fallen comrade’s body in a show of gentleness and respect before borrowing Smough’s power to finish the battle.
Meanwhile Smough is just the opposite in almost every regard.
Illusion?
@@Clonesoldier501People like to say that the Ornstein we see during the fight is an illusion since in Dark Souls 3 we learn that Ornstein abandoned his post and traveled the world to find the Nameless King. It's likely that the timeline is so convoluted that we saw the multiple fates of Ornstein.
@@falcoon_f_zero9450It still questions me that how Ornstein went to Dragon Peak
@@Clonesoldier501 when you dissolve the illusion of Anor Londo in DS1 and make it sunless, some if not all of the Silver Knights disappeared. Gwyndolin revealed that Anor Londo was abandoned and all was illusions even the big titty godess, and the text in DS 3 revealed that Ornstein left Anor a long time ago.
@@falcoon_f_zero9450people doesn't say anything. And no one theory ornstein left anor londo because of the text in DS3, the text is to backup what Gwyndolin said in DS1. In DS 1 if you dissolve the illusions made by Gwyndolin and face the secret boss that is Gwyndolin himself, he will revealed to you that everyone have left Anor Londo and all that you have seen included the silver knights was all illusions created by his power
One of the few darksouls characters who are happy
Pat
Most of NPCs laugh, actually.
@@thulsa_doom laughing definitely doesn't equal happiness always though
The whole interaction between the two remains me of when Vegeta told nappa “ I have no use for useless fools “
I never even knew Smough laughed.
You can't hear it with all the armor clanking, lightning, and music during the fight.
I'm currently farming medals for sunbros so i help other people with these two a lot. its hard to focus on sounds when you are doing it for yourself, but after dozens of fights you start to notice all these small things
Yes you can, quite esily in fact. I was not awere that this wasn't common knowledge
@@namethefifth7315people like you are insufferable
The best part is that he gets his comeuppance when Aldrich invaded anor londo and ate him alive. The irony of the man named “smough the cannibal” being cannibalized himself is so great
Smough already died in dark souls 1 how does that work
I was expecting you to tell us Smough’s eyes were in his moobs!
I was baited!
"Hey A-hole, my eyes are down here!"
Smoobs
Here's a few fun facts about Ornstein and Smough!
1. Ornstein is an executioner, his job is to kill people, and if not, finish them off, its easily possible that he knew Ornstein was still alive, but simply chose to finish him off
2. Ornstein is an illusion made by Gwyndolin so that Smough doesn't go insane because of his basically best friend's death
3. When you kill Smough first, Ornstein absorbs his power, but during the cutscene, he remains the same size, but its actually the room that gets shrunk.
4. Smough's name was made by just spelling "Sumo" in a fancy way, hence his sumo fighter-like appearance.
this is cool and if you say "sumo" the way it's said in japanese it actually does just sound like "smough". nothing at all like the english way of saying SUE-mo. in japanese its suMOU with a real quick almost devoiced "su".
Another fun fact - the first two are basically fan fiction, and not the good one.
“Vegeta help me”
“I have no use for a saiyan that can’t move”
*dies*
Lowkey always laughed at how Smough crushes Ornstein, but Ornstein puts his hand on Smough like he just lost his bro😂
How is this 'lowkey'? Hur dur LoWkEy
He's also the only one not to abandon his duty.
Smough is not one of the four knights of Gwyn, what you mean with abandon his duty ? Gwyn's knights were Dragon Slayer Ornstein, Artorias the Abysswalker, Lord's Blade Ciaran and Hawkeye Gough. BTW that's not the real Ornstein in the fight.
If you're referencing DS3, you literally run into other Silver Knights still guarding the place in that game.
@@demilung Nothing in this video is about silver knights so if he means that idk wtf he talking about.
@@demilungI think he meant of those who were on this (powerful) level, yes they still sat but as foot soldiers, odds were much higher they were killed (maybe even by other silver knights) for abandoning their post
@@gorytarrafaI mean it could be the real ornstein. Dark Souls 3 isn't a direct continuation of 1. The flow of time is convoluted.
"Worry not, my valiant comrade. I will avenge your death with everything in my power."
"Smough, I am not dead."
"I will even use your strength if it means to avenge my fallen brother."
"What do you mean even my stre-"
I don’t think he could’ve noticed the finger twitches, especially with how he sees through the slits
He can look down. And see something. Possibly
Even if he could, I don’t think he’d care
@@soggybubble with such limited sight, and being on the other side, probably not
Copeing hard af
@@soggybubble and see what the inside of his armor?
Ornstein " jeeez my back hurt"
Smough " I gotchu bro"
Smough sounds like a chad strength user to me 🗿
"🗿" - 🤓
@@Peanut-yi1qi"🤓"-🤓
@@Peanut-yi1qi”🤓” - 💀
@@Peanut-yi1qi “🤓” -🤓
@@Antlinius "💀" - 🗿
That bit at the end was great, really tied the lore and the gameplay mechanics together.
Always new meaningful details. I never noticed that Ornstein's fingers were moving.
Ornstein: Agh! Im hit! They got me good! Uggh!
Smough: (●__●)
Ornstein: I…..I think this is it for me buddy!
Smough: (●‿●) hee hee hee
Ironically, a resurrected Smaugh would be the last one to die fighting to protect Gwyndolin from the armies of Sullivan and Aldrich
Resurrected?
Been playing this game since 2012, never nade the connection that that noise was Smough laughing. That's makes him so much more unsettling.
Ohmygod with that little bit of context his helmet just became the coolest and most disturbing piece of armor in the game!
To be fair, not all coworkers are friends
I always found it so haunting that you can see Ornsteins hand twitching before he’s crushed by Smough, he was still alive and Smough delivered the final blow
Dark souls is goated
I always did wonder what that sound was, no clue in the past yrs of me playing would I have known that was smough laughing 😂
Excuse me, my eyes are down here.
Nope too far, back up a bit… warmer… yup right there
Smough crushes Ornstein with glee because that isn't actually Ornstein his friend and compatriot. What you fight in DaS 1 is an illusion summoned by Gwyndolin. The real Ornstein left Lordran to find a cure for the Undead curse elsewhere, in Drangleic. The Ornstein you fight I'm DaS2 is the true one.
Yet we can get the actual soul of Ornstein in DS1, hinting he's real. And what about reading in DS3 that he had abandoned his post in search of the Nameless King? It's like the timeline is so convoluted that we see an alternate fate of Ornstein in each game. Or could it be (gasp*), a plothole? No, impossible.
@@gooeyking What you said might be true. Although Dark Souls 2 is very much canon. We get a lot of references to characters and places of DS2 in DS3, clearly showing DS2 was not written out.
@@gooeyking Two things though: first, there's a difference between leaving something open to interpretation, such as what is "The Deep" in DS3. There's a lot that's not spelled out for you. And then there's just direct retcons to major events that happened. It's just unusual for Dark Souls to so directly contradict previous events, which I don't remember it doing any other times.
Second: If Dark Souls 2 is not canon then how do we find ourselves in the ruins of Earthen Peak in DS3? How do we find the shield of King Vendrick and the armors of Drang soldiers, warriors who were originally from Drangleic? Creighton returns in DS3, so does Alva and Zullie the Witch is also mentioned. Their lore has also stayed the same from DS2. If DS2 isn't canon you'd think their lore would be rewritten to reflect that. But DS3 does acknowledge events of DS2. Or is DS3 not canon either? XD
@@gooeyking would love to see proof of this thing you made up lmao
The ornsteins we fight in both ds1 and ds2 are almost certainly golems made with pieces of Ornsteins soul that he left behind for that purpose. Ds3 tells us explicitly he left to go find the firstborn
When smough dies: freind let me accept your power to finish the fight: smough when ornstein dies: *forcefully applies pine resin*
That pine resin line made me laugh. Thank you
That double illusion fucking works! had me going for like 10 years, I always though his eyes were in the neck ones!
The slids/visor also look similar in shape the silver and black knight helmets now that I think about it
Somewhat reminiscent of the frog-mouth helms we see the Ruin Sentinels wearing as well. That’s probably more due to it being a good visor design than Drangleic being inspired, though.
Excellent video ! ! The twitching fingers at the end gave me chills ! !
And that's why I kill smough first he has no honor and orntstein dosent deserves this he is a legendary warrior and deserves an honorable death
true but that orstein is not the real one cuz the real one went with gwyn firstborn to cuddle with dragons
@@SkillfulCurve or, you know, time is convoluted and all that
@@SkillfulCurveThis is the best explanation I've ever read
@@hensinks thx
I mean Giants are an oppresed race in dark souls and he was probably denied education and a good life and the only thing he knkws is voilence but that doesnt really esxuce him from his deeds
Literally getting no hit runned to death
Smough *eerily gleeful laughs*
Smoughs laugh is just part of the track now
I once listened to the OST and was so ready for the laughs that I wondered where they were until I then finally realised that they are not part of the OST
Ornstein: Smough, my friend, hel-
Smough: BEEN WAITING FOR THIS A LONG TIME!!
Another creepy implication to me is that the laugh sounds like a sample from Eyes Wide Shut by Stanley Kubrick.
Smaug is a mighty dragon, even Sauron seems to respect him
More like a Doublet illusion ^^
is it only me that the last line "hes is a gruesome man" made me laugh
This is why I always kill Smough first
"Chubby cheeks" boy those cheek bones are chiseled
pretty W video ngl
The whole bulbous part of the head and the face being all one helm is a pretty cool design, never noticed it before
Of course he’s gleeful and laughing, every execution means he gets to eat
Reminds me of Kenpachi Zaraki. He's just enthralled & enjoying the fight.
Booba
I'm always so in the zone I never noticed the laugh.. that's wild
Ornstein: Farewell, Comrade, may your spirit guide us to victory.
Smough: Hehehehe, hammer goes brrrrr
You gave me PTSD vietnam flashbacks from OST alone
Out of every boss from the souls borne series smough will always be my favorite boss
Ornstein: *a mournful cutscencd for smough to be large*
Smough: *Mercilessly crush Ornstein to absorbed lighting*
What a great short! Well done!
You know, I never really thought about how awesome of a design Smough's helmet is.
Gwynevere: My eyes are up here.
Smough: My eyes are _down_ here.
Glad to see Micolash starting his own yt channel keep it up bro
Almost a decade playing this game. Nev3r noticed smough is laughing
One of the most iconic boss fights of all time, featuring two of the most unique armor sets of all time.
The two slits and double illusion look insane bro!
"Oh, you beat Ornstein? Lol you mind if I squish him like an ant real quick to finish him off?"
The laugh being a clear throwback to the Fat Official from Demon's Souls
Ornstein: „Let me tell you something! Let me tell you something!“
This guy is the Majin Buu of dark souls
Imagine this guy chasing you in a nightmare laughing as he does
I think it’s his item description that also mentions he made himself taller inside the armor by stuffing the boots with the crushed bones of his victims. And not just that, those bones were rendered so by he himself, as he was a cannibal.
Ornstein when Smough dies: "Rest well old friend"
Smough when Ornstein dies: "Hippity hoppity get in my belly"
Smough was truly enlightened to the lie of the first flame. He understood his position as executioner, and took advantage of this to bottom feed off his victims. He fed off the table scraps from the ones above him, to gain their souls and become powerful.
One must imagine Smough happy
These guys were one of the most memorable fights for me on ds1
Ornstein and Smough was without a doubt the hardest bossfight I’ve ever went against like just the idea of facing them again on normal difficult gives me PTSD flashbacks
The last thing youd want in your mc donalds burger is a gruesome man
I like Orenstein's phase 2 cut scene more. He lays his hand on his fallen comrade to briefly mourn him before absorbing his power.
Smough : " you owe me 5 buck "
Ornstein : " what the hell is 5 buc..oh shi.."
And somehow, one of the most intimidating enemies in the game is actually more horrifying than I ever realized.
The explanation for where he actually sees from felt like dropping weights that I have carried on my back until now. The idea of his eyes being on the armor's neck never made sense to me, because it would mean his eyes were at the same level of his shoulders, making it hard to imagine his anatomy. But this, this makes so much sense! Thanks a lot!
The glee of the next willingly approaching meal. He doesn't have to hunt when he uses the perfect bait: the lord vessel and the undead legend together.
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