Roxas is my favorite character because his backstory raises a very interesting moral debate. This might be an oversimplification, but it essentially boils down to this. If you had cut off a limb, and it suddenly gained its own sentience, is it ethical to reabsorb that lost limb? The fact that Roxas was reabsorbed into Sora makes his character all the more tragic
It reminds me of the plot of nier gestalt/replicant. Humanity is plagued by a terrible disease so they split the bodies (replicants) and souls (gestalts) of everyone to wait for the disease to die off. Problem is by the time the disease dies the bodies gained sentience of their own. The replicants are just trying to defend themselves since they see the gestalts as horrific monsters while the gestalts just want their bodies back.
What I love is the different ways both of them fight’ sora is confused and is fighting defensively. Roxas on the other hand is feeling so much anger and sadness that he is just fighting like a blood thirsty savage.
Pretty sure Roxas is holding back during the gameplay part of the fight. And in KH3 he can solo a boss. Just sit around and listen to the music. He'll do it for you.
@@arikatheprincessofhearts2043 Roxas isn’t a villain, if you can’t see that for yourself with the storytelling and have to rely on a Wiki then you have absolutely no idea what storytelling really is. Roxas was never an antagonist, just like Axel and Riku never were.
What makes this so tragic is Sora, indirectly, took everything away from Roxas. Xion and Axel, the friendship he had with the Twilght Town kids, his entire existence all because of Sora. All the pain and loss for someone who doesn't even know who you are. I think the music and intensity of the fight really captures this aswell
If he didn't Kairi and the other princesses would never have woken up and Maleficent and Ansem would've won in Kingdom Hearts 1. In fact, Roxas and Xion wouldn't have existed to begin with.
@@Dommbuscus yeah its sad. I'm 21 but I very rarely tear up, much less in films or games. But Kingodm Hearts repeatedly got me in tears somehow. Back when he first turned into a heartless so Kairi can wake up to when Sora finally met up with Riku in KH2 after everything Sora went through to get there. Roxas became my favorite after seeing 358/2 days and getting to know Axel and Xion
Out of all of the characters in KH, Roxas's story is the most tragic. He spent a year wondering his existence and found out he was nothing but a tool for the organization. He would then go to lose his trust in Axel and be forced to kill Xion, then go on to lose 3 more friends. His life was nothing but losing all those he cared about.
aqua is the most tragic she literally lost everything world friends family keyblade down to her sanity. girl walks a version of hell for a decade alone.
nah, Player's takes the cake of tragedy. The guy experiences war, his hometown collapses twice, gets killed by his best friend, reincarnates into the most despicable character in KH. He has no good ending.
Sora's story is more sad. His world got destroyed and everyone he knew perished. His friends disappeared. Them he learned that kairi's heart was missing and Riku gave into the darkness. Then he lost control over his body to ansem. After all of that Sora tried to find Riku who was presumably dead. Then after all of that he almost lost himself to darkness and almost became a xehanort. And then he lost all of his powers. And in kh3 he fought the real organisation and saw all of his friends die in front of him. He had to wake them up. Then he tried to find kairi and wondered into places and fought yozora and he disappeared.
@@johnpantag472 sora had way more happy endings than everyone in the series. Everyone on destiny island came back, including Kairi who came back. He found Riku. In kh3 everyone came back. Every other character just had a bad ending until 3.
Max 1769 not really. He’s just a nobody who looks different than sora so he’s different than everyone else. He’s not any interesting than any other nobody, except he’s the nobody of the main character
This is hands down one of the most symbolic boss fights in gaming, the escalating music, the emotion of each clash, the symbolism of the same twilight sky in the background from twilight town during his ultimate move, the setting of the internal conflict happening within Soras heart and Roxas's acceptance at the climax of the fight. This is the kingdom hearts I know and love and I wouldn't have it any other way.
I remember the very first time I popped in KH2 into the PS2. When we were playing as Roxas, I was like WTF? Once you finished Roxas portion of the game, I died inside.
I wasn't like that, I liked him from the start, when his portion ended, my heart was shattered(not literally{otherwise, I'd be dead}it's a figure of speech)
@@gabrielcorreiadasilva5789 Yozora: Are you sure about that? *Steals Keyblade* Noctis: I'm sure he is *Holds Yozora at Swordpoint* Vanitus: I beg to differ *Summon Unverse Army* Ventus: I differ to dare *ambushes Vanitus from the high ground* Cloud: Enough!!! Nomura: This is good... Master of Masters: Nah, Nope, Not Possible.
@AstraFulminous Sonic The Hedgehog: "Man... and I thought I had a Derivative crisis..." Nomura: "What is this character?" Sonic: "Surge The Tenrec" Nomura: "What is she..?" Sonic: "Ehhh, Nobody, really..." Nomura: "OK, that was a good one"
What makes this so emotional is the fact that The Other Promise is playing while you're fighting Roxas. That just gives you gut punch after gut punch as the chorus ramps up.
Now that Sora is in smash I genuinely hope this brings people to learn how amazing kingdom hearts is and how impactful it is I hope more people can learn the sad tale of Roxas a person stuck between light and dark
Speaking of that desperation, every time you see those beams of light, that's basically his limit break from 358/2 days, something he only gets to use when he's close to dying. And he uses it almost right from the beginning and with increasing intensivity as he starts to lose. He's already desperate when the fight starts and becomes even more se when he realizes even this isn't enough. That's how you illustrate character's feelings through gameplay.
You know a friend is good when you ramble on about fake memories (Hayner, Pence, Olette) and he just goes along with it, instead of correcting you or bringing up his own memories of you that you seem to not recall.
I think those were his real friends. He was in Twilight Town before Xemnas found him and gave Roxas as his name, and he probably stayed there until he decided to betray the Organization. The scene with Axel was BEFORE he got put into a fake Twilight Town, so it doesn't make sense if they were his fake memories.
yeah he did the most obvious most lame change of subject like ""man this ice cream is so good plz think abt ice cream and not my obvious pain"" like damn axel im so sorry
I still remember playing the final mix for the first time and being dumbstruck by how much more difficult this fight was than anything else before in the game. I know I spent at least 2 days fighting him, it was fine though because the music is heavenly.
even to this day, im still annoyed how this fight wasnt even in the original kingdom hearts 2 when it launched. the fight makes the following cutscene have significantly more weight
This fight was not in the original FUCK NOW IF I HAVE TO PLAY THIS GAME ALL OVER AGAIN BECAUSE I'M NOT DOING THIS FIGHT THE RAGE WAS REAL AND I WON'T FORCE MYSELF TO SUFFER
@@SorcererVtuber kingdom hearts 2 the original ps2 version did not have the fight, but kingdom hearts 2 final mix on ps2 did have the fight + some extra stuff
@@OODLESMCBOODELS the fight isn’t even hard, just beat all the worlds before the fight and use a lot of ether use trinity limit and limit form beating all the worlds will give you a lot of health, look up a guide for the fight it’s simple, your pathetic
That feeling when you realise this fight takes place inside Sora's heart and it's Roxas' last and desperate attempt to get back his own body is heartbreaking to say the least. And "The Other Promise" is always a punch in the gut.
"Man I'm bored..." *Plays Kingdom Hearts II* *Quits right before entering The World that Never Was* "Phew... that was fun, what time is it" *After two weeks or so, starts playing 358/2 days* "Dem feels, gotta continue with the series!" *Plays the Roxas fight in KHII* ;_;
PythonDelta That actually happen to me as well but that was due to the fact I heard of the ds game and decided to play that before finishing the game. Don't like to be left off without knowing what going on and that game had a real good part of the story.
Even playing this as a kid, with no context beyond what we knew from the game, I got the feeling that this confrontation had much more pain and sadness behind it than what we could know.
Roxas was surprised because he thought of Sora as unworthy of having the keyblade and that he himself more worthy. So when Sora warped the keyblade Roxas' belief of Sora being of worthy was proven wrong and made him pause, which gave Sora the opening to finish the fight.
Devon Brown sora would've beaten him regardless. Roxas is stronger but he's the nobody of sora so he can't beat sora. And can't roxas warp his key blade?
True I was just explaining how it ended in this instance, and yea Roxas can but he didn't think Sora could like I said he thought he was unworthy and as such wouldn't have the ability. Secondly I mean Roxas never met another keyblader (not including xion because she was forgotten) so he wasn't aware of keyblader's abilities only his own so he could not have realized it.
He was caught off guard, it’s really his second time fighting another Keyblade Wielder, aside from Xion unless he still forgotten that at this point He himself didn’t realize the full capabilities of the Keyblade himself Sure he can summon it in battle but he never thought he can do that too if it leaves his hands He was sure he had Sora beat and let down his guard which is how Sora won Roxas’ fighting style is aggressive compared to Sora, while Sora is more defensive and countering, so he had more of a mindset to think of a way to counter against a superior opponent
Easily one of the most emotional scenes in the series. Up there with Xion and Axel in front of the mansion, Riku and Sora's duel, and the entire ending of BBS
I just beat it after about 12-15 attempts. I stopped playing for a few months when I got to Roxas ha ha. Tbh all the KH games have a fair share of easy and ridiculous boss fights, I hate and love it ha ha.
Roxas in the end got fucked over badly. He wasn't supposed to exist, he had to kill his best friend, he was kidnapped by Riku and DiZ, he had to fight his best friend and then had to return to Sora. In Re:Coded he wanted Data-Sora to feel the agonizing pain that he felt. Roxas is probably the saddest character I have seen in a video game, and it tugs at my heartstrings when I hear his themes.
The moment when Sora takes back Oathkeeper and Oblivion is the moment where we really won. He proved himself to have the stronger will, and that his determination to save others would not lose to Roxas' desire to exist
Ok made it to this fight and the reaction command triggered twice in all of my attempts. I only won once I learned literally everything Roxas does. It's honestly not worth taking the keyblades since you can't block the sheer amount of bu- lasers he throws at you
@@jstar3382I will admit, Sora's desire to save others is indeed very admirable, but Roxas fighting to assert his personhood and right to exist is far in a way more heroic from a certain perspective, because he is literally saying "If my existence makes you uncomfortable, then fuck you!"
@Webidiolchiu94 actually in the original version of Kingdom Hearts 2 you don't get to fight him at all it's only a cutscene and that's how it ended off. Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix is where you get to fight Roxas + the new cutscenes. Fighting Roxas was never available on the PS2 version of Kingdom Hearts 2 unless you have the Final Mix version which was only in Japanese.
Silent Protagonist That might explain why there isn't a save point near where the battle takes place. It was so tedious having to walk to the battle over and over again after getting wrecked by Roxas.
I can't wait for the scene when Roxas meets back up with Riku. Sora: So Roxas said he defeated you. Riku: Really? Because that's not quite what I remember. Roxas: well you see, I defeated you and then you turned into the Heartless of Xehanort and then I lost. So technically I lost to Xehanort's Heartless not you. And technically that was your mind, Terra's Darkness and Master Xehanort's Heart so it was like 3 Keyblade users vs 1.
Not quite. Roxas is a part of Sora. But that doesn't mean Ventus and Sora are a part of Roxas. Confusingly enough, Ventus and Roxas are a part of Sora's heart.
@@PBG Yeah I get that, not sure if you know but 3 and 4 are by the same team that made BBS, ReCom, and DDD, while KH1 and 2 team went to make FF15 and FF7 remake
U wrote this 2 years ago, but same. and im like who the fuck does this sora bitch think he is anyways?!!!!! I was bitter the entire time through kh1. like how does this child compare to the wonderful roxas?
I went in this blind since 2 was the first one I played but never finished it until a couple of years ago, I got 358/2 later on. Looking back now the stuff with Roxas (especially at the start of the game) is depressing as fuck.
The first time I saw that scene with Roxas and Axel talking, my cat (also named Axel) ran away. He came back the next day, but seeing the scene with this Axel, and losing my own Axel left me inconsolable.
I remember the amount of chills this battle sent down my spine. You see an organization member appear before you and you see the 2 Keyblades with you know who’s theme playing in the background my jaw dropped and stayed dropped the whole fight
My guess is that Nomura wanted to add the fight between Sora and Roxas in the original, but ran out of time. So he just used the Final Mix as an excuse to add it back in.
See, that makes me wonder, IF Sora ever goes home other than the short stints in between games, to see family and whatnot would Roxas go with since they are basically brothers at this point
they do but not a real one....sorta ( dream drop explains it ) its sad roxas axel and xion were lied too about not having hearts just so the 13 seekers of darkness to be made
This is truly art. The music being sad and somewhat toned down to reflect Roxas’ painful, desperate struggle. On top of just that, everything is perfect. The fact this fight happens on Sora’s window, the fact that Roxas uses the same voice effects as when you play as him, the difficulty is just right imo. The best boss battle in all of Kingdom Hearts for me
@@elijahlopez4057 good luck my friend I skipped a few because I really wanted to play 3 but as soon as I'm done in going back to play them all from the beginning on proud mode
This fight. This was the fight that made me get good in critical mode. Ill always love this fight. The setting, the music, the combat, everything blends to making a great ass boss fight.
And that fight and scene after a fight, ladies and gentelmen, are my favourite from all of this series. Gets me into tears every single time, no matter if I play or just watch.
This is honestly one of the best boss fights I've ever experienced mostly for the music lol. I always get goosebumps when the track starts to amp up, it's done SOOOOO well. It really defines Roxas as a character just through a song. God, this game is a masterpiece. 💜
The FM scene with Roxas & Axel sure does get a lot of people talking and gets them confused too. What are your theories to what the scene might be? I would love to hear them and other people can see too. (:
The roxas and Xemnas scene was when Sora became a heartless in KH1, and the Axel and Roxas scene took place after roxas returned to sora. This is confirmed by the final mix scene after roxas returns to him where Riku, Namine and Axel are all talking and Axel says he wants to go see someone, then he opens a portal, and the Roxas and Axel scene happens
I believe that scene is suppose to show what happens to Nobodies before they vanish and or join their original selves, hence the fading. However Roxas went back to Sora, also probably the reason why you get the Keyblade "two become one". Maybe Axel and Roxas wanted to talk before they parted ways. It was also there to show that Nobodies could grow hearts, and that's why Axel cries. Not sure, just guessing but it is a fantastic scene.
Nobodies do have hearts. They all have them in time, Xemnas just lied to them and make them think they didn't all along. All along Kingdom Hearts was just a trick to share Xemnas's original heart with the hearts of the original members of Organization XIII, however he knew there were some who weren't fit for the task so he let them get eliminated one by one. Xehanort is a cruel tactician.
This fight has been kicking my ass the past couple days and after watching this i've realized that there's so much i just haven't done, mainly leveling my drive forms to get movement abilities.
9:37 Never noticed before, but it sounds like Axel is fighting to hold it together and not cry. Looks away and mentions the ice cream to distract from his emotions.
That happens more frequently than you think considering I'm KH2 the only way to end the fight is with a move considered as a "finisher" and Sora only says those lines on finishers, I've ended fights myself with Sora landing the final blow saying "this is it!" Lol
Something i love about this fight is how if you block one of roxas' attacks, he loses balance and almost falls backwards. Like other bosses might recoil when an attack is blocked but Roxas straight up almost falls on his ass lol. It's a small detail but shows that as strong as roxas is, he still isn't as experienced as the other organization members.
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I don't think people realize how mechanically amazing this game's combat was
Matthew Lee this game has the best fighting combat of all video game.
I remember playing the chains one.. back then.. didn’t like it..
chain of memories is pretty trash. It's legit a card game lol.
I can think of a few things to complain about.
Which is why it is my favorite video game series of all time
“You feel nothing. Nothing is real. I can give you purpose.”
“Saxor.”
“NO.”
"Xaros" 🤣 Roxas: "EEEEP!!"
Ngl, Saxor sounds kinda lit
Sora is Optimism and Ventus is the Pessimism, Which intern makes Roxas the Ultimatum. XD l love this game..
How did he know he had to read backwards?
I named my first DnD character Saxor Arcane
Donald: But Nobody could defeat Riku
Roxas: I am a Nobody
Haha always thought that 😂
Tetsuya Nomura are really good with English meaning, right?
Raishyx intensity intensifys
+Raishyx That would be true if riku didn't admit his loss after Sora defeated saix.
or when he mets ansem the wise "I me, nobody, else"
Roxas is my favorite character because his backstory raises a very interesting moral debate. This might be an oversimplification, but it essentially boils down to this. If you had cut off a limb, and it suddenly gained its own sentience, is it ethical to reabsorb that lost limb? The fact that Roxas was reabsorbed into Sora makes his character all the more tragic
It reminds me of the plot of nier gestalt/replicant. Humanity is plagued by a terrible disease so they split the bodies (replicants) and souls (gestalts) of everyone to wait for the disease to die off. Problem is by the time the disease dies the bodies gained sentience of their own. The replicants are just trying to defend themselves since they see the gestalts as horrific monsters while the gestalts just want their bodies back.
@@History507 lol, that sounds cool and sad at the same time
Lol yeah. Imagine shit like this irl. That'd be so cool and mad.
Sora is Optimism and Ventus is the Pessimism, Which intern makes Roxas the Ultimatum. XD l love this game..
Take it back cuz it was part of me
It's even sadder when Roxas and Axel have now forgotten Xion.
+Sendy Lie (Smug Athena Fan) They dont forgot her...
+Sendy Lie (Smug Athena Fan) who is xion
its a joke
+sonicfan3588 oh I know, and I get it. Thats what I meant by intentional cause its a joke that HURTS. (; - ;)
but do you know what real hurt feels like -roxas
What I love is the different ways both of them fight’ sora is confused and is fighting defensively. Roxas on the other hand is feeling so much anger and sadness that he is just fighting like a blood thirsty savage.
Pretty sure Roxas is holding back during the gameplay part of the fight. And in KH3 he can solo a boss. Just sit around and listen to the music. He'll do it for you.
@@smolselene9453 honestly he seemed a lot more aggressive in KH2.
@@arikatheprincessofhearts2043 was roxas evil? no he never was.
@@smolselene9453 Fun fact, in KH3, Roxas has his agression level to the max, and is also immortal.
@@arikatheprincessofhearts2043 Roxas isn’t a villain, if you can’t see that for yourself with the storytelling and have to rely on a Wiki then you have absolutely no idea what storytelling really is. Roxas was never an antagonist, just like Axel and Riku never were.
What makes this so tragic is Sora, indirectly, took everything away from Roxas. Xion and Axel, the friendship he had with the Twilght Town kids, his entire existence all because of Sora. All the pain and loss for someone who doesn't even know who you are. I think the music and intensity of the fight really captures this aswell
If he didn't Kairi and the other princesses would never have woken up and Maleficent and Ansem would've won in Kingdom Hearts 1. In fact, Roxas and Xion wouldn't have existed to begin with.
@@GameoftheYear-fx4mq Yeah, that's the point. It all kind of had to happen, but Roxas got the shit end of the stick
@@Dommbuscus yeah its sad. I'm 21 but I very rarely tear up, much less in films or games. But Kingodm Hearts repeatedly got me in tears somehow. Back when he first turned into a heartless so Kairi can wake up to when Sora finally met up with Riku in KH2 after everything Sora went through to get there. Roxas became my favorite after seeing 358/2 days and getting to know Axel and Xion
"You took everything from me"
"I don't event know who you are"
Yet he wouldn't have experienced any of it it not for sora.
You beat this with Kingdom Key... This guy deserves respect.
I did it with Oathkeeper, it's my favourite Keyblade out of all of them, thank god for KH3 DLC.
@@nathanevans1382 okay
beating roxas with kingdom key is fairly easy outside of critical mode
I did it with sweet memories
I did it with reflect lmao
Out of all of the characters in KH, Roxas's story is the most tragic. He spent a year wondering his existence and found out he was nothing but a tool for the organization. He would then go to lose his trust in Axel and be forced to kill Xion, then go on to lose 3 more friends. His life was nothing but losing all those he cared about.
He has PTSD
aqua is the most tragic
she literally lost everything world friends family keyblade down to her sanity.
girl walks a version of hell for a decade alone.
nah, Player's takes the cake of tragedy. The guy experiences war, his hometown collapses twice, gets killed by his best friend, reincarnates into the most despicable character in KH. He has no good ending.
Sora's story is more sad. His world got destroyed and everyone he knew perished. His friends disappeared. Them he learned that kairi's heart was missing and Riku gave into the darkness. Then he lost control over his body to ansem. After all of that Sora tried to find Riku who was presumably dead. Then after all of that he almost lost himself to darkness and almost became a xehanort. And then he lost all of his powers. And in kh3 he fought the real organisation and saw all of his friends die in front of him. He had to wake them up. Then he tried to find kairi and wondered into places and fought yozora and he disappeared.
@@johnpantag472 sora had way more happy endings than everyone in the series. Everyone on destiny island came back, including Kairi who came back. He found Riku. In kh3 everyone came back. Every other character just had a bad ending until 3.
In the whole Kingdom Hearts series,I think the most interesting character is Roxas.He has the saddest story ever.
Max 1769 xion is a close second... her death scene always makes me cry.
@@lanadelreyisgay who gonna eat ice cream with me again that the scene?
Max 1769 not really. He’s just a nobody who looks different than sora so he’s different than everyone else. He’s not any interesting than any other nobody, except he’s the nobody of the main character
Now he is a Somebody
@@BabyGirlTiny "He's just a nobody who looks different" That ignores the rest of his whole story but alright, nice downplay.
This is hands down one of the most symbolic boss fights in gaming, the escalating music, the emotion of each clash, the symbolism of the same twilight sky in the background from twilight town during his ultimate move, the setting of the internal conflict happening within Soras heart and Roxas's acceptance at the climax of the fight.
This is the kingdom hearts I know and love and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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LAWL
Nicely said man.....*sniff*.....nicely said
Agreed
Metal Gear 4 that's all i'm sayinh
Jesse McCartney portrayed Roxas FLAWLESSLY imo
His performances as Roxas and Robin/Nightwing are incredible
He's a great talent and he's still going strong. I respect his hustle.
You don't know true pain until you play this in critical mode.
Andy Canela yeah i know
this fight on level 1 literally changes a man
Not to brag but I just did it, second try at lvl 49. Now doing it at level 1 critical would be a torture.
Teriplayce ive done it once so i have bragging rights
Andy Canela no lie it took me close to 40 tries on critical because I didn’t have once more, so when I beat him I was really happy
"But nobody could defeat Riku."
And nobody did.
I guess that makes Sora nobody then
@@soralight_x I'm one year late but r/whoosh
@@InsomniacStephens141 Year late for what?
@@InsomniacStephens141 Dead meme
@@sb14andmore50 lol you're suggesting reddit is dead 🤣
I remember the very first time I popped in KH2 into the PS2. When we were playing as Roxas, I was like WTF? Once you finished Roxas portion of the game, I died inside.
We all did😭 he changed the aspect of us having the last week of summer vacation
Bro same! I didn't wanted to use sora after that LOL
"looks like my summer vacation is over." - a sentence who killed me like a hundred times...
@@leehernandez2022 is sooo xD
I wasn't like that, I liked him from the start, when his portion ended, my heart was shattered(not literally{otherwise, I'd be dead}it's a figure of speech)
Roxas: tell me... TELL ME WHY NOMRUA CHOSE YOU
Sora: Because I am the protagonist!
@@gabrielcorreiadasilva5789
Yozora: Are you sure about that? *Steals Keyblade*
Noctis: I'm sure he is *Holds Yozora at Swordpoint*
Vanitus: I beg to differ *Summon Unverse Army*
Ventus: I differ to dare *ambushes Vanitus from the high ground*
Cloud: Enough!!!
Nomura: This is good...
Master of Masters: Nah, Nope, Not Possible.
Because the keyblade has chosen me
"Okay I believe you!"
@AstraFulminous Sonic The Hedgehog: "Man... and I thought I had a Derivative crisis..."
Nomura: "What is this character?"
Sonic: "Surge The Tenrec"
Nomura: "What is she..?"
Sonic: "Ehhh, Nobody, really..."
Nomura: "OK, that was a good one"
"You make a good other."
Gets me every time.
yup...wait somewhere here is a onion
@@lolalovegood8221 Damn ninja onions.
What makes this so emotional is the fact that The Other Promise is playing while you're fighting Roxas. That just gives you gut punch after gut punch as the chorus ramps up.
Sora: You can't be....riku
Roxas: I defeated a riku once
Sora: What?
Roxas: Tell me........DO YOU BLEED??????????
Lol
Roxas: Even if I bleed I'm a nobody I have no feeling
Sora: Your an airhead you know that?
GG
YOU WILL.
Thought I was the only one thinking of that lol
Now that Sora is in smash I genuinely hope this brings people to learn how amazing kingdom hearts is and how impactful it is I hope more people can learn the sad tale of Roxas a person stuck between light and dark
The only problem with kingdom hearts is the really and I mean really confusing plot but gameplay is always amazing.
nice rukia picture
@@joshualighttime604 yeah I had to do two play throughs to understand everything honestly DDD fucked it up with the writing
@@joshualighttime604 i agree my guy. i been w it since the start. and STILL confused up to this day 😅
I am in the fiesta gane AND Is very good
6:52
- "saxoR?"
-"uh, no, sorry, I put it backwards :l"
LMFAOOOO (yes i'm 3 years late)
I want to like, but I can't
Nice one mate
Lmao imagine if xemnas did say that
imagine if roxas read it wrong and xemnas actually intended for his name to be saxoR and went with it because it sounded way better
Roxas will always be my favorite character ever.
Mine too
There's Xion, but yeah!
Same roxas for life
Grecky mine is ven
Roxas is just like Ven. He will die if not loved enough.
The part that showed me roxas' desperation to win was when he started hammering at soras keyblade with the oathkeeper and oblivion
Speaking of that desperation, every time you see those beams of light, that's basically his limit break from 358/2 days, something he only gets to use when he's close to dying. And he uses it almost right from the beginning and with increasing intensivity as he starts to lose. He's already desperate when the fight starts and becomes even more se when he realizes even this isn't enough. That's how you illustrate character's feelings through gameplay.
Actually, that was Roxas having seen the reason he was chosen by the keyblade so he stopped trying and just started randomly slash at sora
@@retrohanska4441 well said .
- Take care, okay?
- Right back at ya, buddy.
I can always hear my heart breaking in a million pieces in this scene.
You know a friend is good when you ramble on about fake memories (Hayner, Pence, Olette) and he just goes along with it, instead of correcting you or bringing up his own memories of you that you seem to not recall.
I think those were his real friends. He was in Twilight Town before Xemnas found him and gave Roxas as his name, and he probably stayed there until he decided to betray the Organization. The scene with Axel was BEFORE he got put into a fake Twilight Town, so it doesn't make sense if they were his fake memories.
Anonymous Pokémon That’s not a flashback. Its their hearts meeting before roxas returns to Sora
@@gregglass4778 Nobodies do not have hearts.
@@anonymouspokemon4623 someone didn't play ddd
@@anonymouspokemon4623 Someone forgot where Ven's heart went when Sora turned into a heartless.
Man when axel looks away from roxas and hide his feelings it broke my heart. when he let that tear come down I cried with him 😭
Me too..Axel is my favorite..
Nobodies don't have any feelings
yeah he did the most obvious most lame change of subject like ""man this ice cream is so good plz think abt ice cream and not my obvious pain"" like damn axel im so sorry
@@EliteV1llain I'm sure there is some part in the lore that says nobodies can grow a heart and have emotions
@@EliteV1llain idk but i think roxas is a nobody.
Over a decade later and this battle is still heartbreaking to me 😭
It’s their best moment yet
I still remember playing the final mix for the first time and being dumbstruck by how much more difficult this fight was than anything else before in the game. I know I spent at least 2 days fighting him, it was fine though because the music is heavenly.
It’s too good I can’t
even to this day, im still annoyed how this fight wasnt even in the original kingdom hearts 2 when it launched. the fight makes the following cutscene have significantly more weight
This fight was not in the original FUCK NOW IF I HAVE TO PLAY THIS GAME ALL OVER AGAIN BECAUSE I'M NOT DOING THIS FIGHT THE RAGE WAS REAL AND I WON'T FORCE MYSELF TO SUFFER
What? I played the original and remember fighting him
@@SorcererVtuber its not in the original ps2 version but it is in the final mix versions which are on ps3 and ps4
@@SorcererVtuber kingdom hearts 2 the original ps2 version did not have the fight, but kingdom hearts 2 final mix on ps2 did have the fight + some extra stuff
@@OODLESMCBOODELS the fight isn’t even hard, just beat all the worlds before the fight and use a lot of ether use trinity limit and limit form beating all the worlds will give you a lot of health, look up a guide for the fight it’s simple, your pathetic
5:00
That attack volley right there is the desperation of a man who just wants to live, and it tears my heart out to see it.
That feeling when you realise this fight takes place inside Sora's heart and it's Roxas' last and desperate attempt to get back his own body is heartbreaking to say the least.
And "The Other Promise" is always a punch in the gut.
"You make a good other"
I was hit with a the Feels Train.
Nobody talking about how amazing the music for this fight was
So l am nobody ?
Roxas?
The music literally makes me cry
Organization XII...
Which one?
The first time in my life I was sad to win...
wait for Dark aqua fight
@@masteraqua2408 wasn’t sad
Mee to
@@masteraqua2408 it wasnt that bad this one was worse
I wasn't roxas was an asshole in this fight
I love how they're always whipping those up popsicles outta nowhere
The superpower I wish I had, tbh. Just with alcoholic popsicles instead.
@@kolaida I can just imagine just making a rootbeer popsicle out of thin air. XD
@@EmberTheFlareon3579 I mean, dont they just have to keep the popsiccle sticks and juice on them in a pouch then cast Blizzard?
@@zigfaust As long as the pouch is in that shape I guess. X3
They pulled it out of their ass that’s all we gotta know 🤣
I played Kingdom hearts 358/2 days before this game.
I was on the rails when the feel train came :'(
did you fall?
Same here.
Days comes right before kh2
if there's a train, why not invite selphie?
Ars Arcanum ahhh, I see whatcha did there.
One of my favorite parts about this battle is definitely the music in the background. It's not so panicky, but more like a sad battle of some sort.
Sora Will be confused as fuck when he sees ventus😂
oh boy that will just make everything much more complicated and confusing
Not true, he met Ventus when he was 5.
PikachuFrankie yes 5 like he's going to remember that while he is saving basically EVERYONE IN THE UNIVERSE
also he didn't see ventus he saw his heart so he will become really confused and probably think he is roxas
+will leese Ventus met Sora, Aqua met Kairi and Terra met Riku
tht moment when u secretly want roxas to win
agreed. I simply died hoping he would. but story won't progress.
Aw.. poor Sora, guys only defending himself! 😜
...secretly?
i was on roxas's side all the time, i always hope that i can play as roxas again but that never happen, none of sora's story really interest me
+John ikr thats why i liked bbs playing as someone other than sora. same with chain of memories (after i completed sora's story)
"Man I'm bored..."
*Plays Kingdom Hearts II*
*Quits right before entering The World that Never Was*
"Phew... that was fun, what time is it"
*After two weeks or so, starts
playing 358/2 days*
"Dem feels, gotta continue with the series!"
*Plays the Roxas fight in KHII*
;_;
PythonDelta what makes you say that?
THO games that sounds way too perfect of a coincidence
lmaooo
PythonDelta That actually happen to me as well but that was due to the fact I heard of the ds game and decided to play that before finishing the game. Don't like to be left off without knowing what going on and that game had a real good part of the story.
@@PythonDelta there are many players, coincidences happen
Even playing this as a kid, with no context beyond what we knew from the game, I got the feeling that this confrontation had much more pain and sadness behind it than what we could know.
Yessss
You know this fight was cut in the european version of the game?
@@smoker5989 it’s in final mix
Roxas was Raging because of Axel'a death. "Why did [my best friend] pick you [to save]!?"
Am I the only one who got sad becoz the music ?
You're not alone bud
PowerButtonGaming For me, it was that combined with Axel's tear. Just something about a Nobody crying that gets me.
Abdullah Alfaifi My favorite part of any game, ever. Mostly because of the music. It's perfect for the specific fight.
+Abdullah Alfaifi I'm with you,brother....i'm with ya.... :,(
+jimmy Pollard don't you mean birth by sleep not sleep by birth
Still don't understand how Roxas didn't know Sora can warp the keyblade in his hands when he's done it like a million times with the Organization 13
Roxas was surprised because he thought of Sora as unworthy of having the keyblade and that he himself more worthy. So when Sora warped the keyblade Roxas' belief of Sora being of worthy was proven wrong and made him pause, which gave Sora the opening to finish the fight.
Devon Brown sora would've beaten him regardless. Roxas is stronger but he's the nobody of sora so he can't beat sora. And can't roxas warp his key blade?
True I was just explaining how it ended in this instance, and yea Roxas can but he didn't think Sora could like I said he thought he was unworthy and as such wouldn't have the ability. Secondly I mean Roxas never met another keyblader (not including xion because she was forgotten) so he wasn't aware of keyblader's abilities only his own so he could not have realized it.
Roxas believed he was now in possession of the Keyblade since Sora got disarmed with it. He was shocked when Sora still managed to warp the Key back.
He was caught off guard, it’s really his second time fighting another Keyblade Wielder, aside from Xion unless he still forgotten that at this point
He himself didn’t realize the full capabilities of the Keyblade himself
Sure he can summon it in battle but he never thought he can do that too if it leaves his hands
He was sure he had Sora beat and let down his guard which is how Sora won
Roxas’ fighting style is aggressive compared to Sora, while Sora is more defensive and countering, so he had more of a mindset to think of a way to counter against a superior opponent
1:12 God I love it when a ramp up in musical scores matches with increased intensity of a battle.
megaman161 chills. Every fucking time.
The music in this fight is some of the best in the series, and with kingdom hearts, that's a huge compliment.
Just came here to say that this is one of the greatest scenes in all of gaming.
May your heart be your guiding key.
Easily one of the most emotional scenes in the series. Up there with Xion and Axel in front of the mansion, Riku and Sora's duel, and the entire ending of BBS
I've gotta be honest. This fight was the harshest difficulty spike I've seen all-time.
;_; Dammit Sora stop getting combo'd
I just beat it after about 12-15 attempts. I stopped playing for a few months when I got to Roxas ha ha. Tbh all the KH games have a fair share of easy and ridiculous boss fights, I hate and love it ha ha.
I get one combo I'm dead. Wth
@@chubbotron Y'know, they are some insane, not super hard to get down, ways to beat Roxas
@@jupiter843 yeah I want to finish the game lol
dillon chennault even though how hard he is you have to admit this is the best boss fight in KH2
Roxas in the end got fucked over badly. He wasn't supposed to exist, he had to kill his best friend, he was kidnapped by Riku and DiZ, he had to fight his best friend and then had to return to Sora. In Re:Coded he wanted Data-Sora to feel the agonizing pain that he felt. Roxas is probably the saddest character I have seen in a video game, and it tugs at my heartstrings when I hear his themes.
Gabriel Jacques And now... Roxas will be given a life. I think.
But his should exist as just much as sora he felt the pain and agony he no they deserve they're existence they're lives
Aqua. Thats all I'm gonna say
skaionex at least she's alive.
@@gratiaseia technically roxas isn't "dead" per say. He still obviously lives through sora in a way.
The moment when Sora takes back Oathkeeper and Oblivion is the moment where we really won. He proved himself to have the stronger will, and that his determination to save others would not lose to Roxas' desire to exist
Ok made it to this fight and the reaction command triggered twice in all of my attempts. I only won once I learned literally everything Roxas does. It's honestly not worth taking the keyblades since you can't block the sheer amount of bu- lasers he throws at you
In a way, it's sad that Sora won. Even though Sora's desire to save people did pave the way to give Roxas his own body
Imagine what Roxas was thinking when Sora stole his keyblades.
"I can't believe you… even my keyblades!? You take everything from me!"
@@jstar3382I will admit, Sora's desire to save others is indeed very admirable, but Roxas fighting to assert his personhood and right to exist is far in a way more heroic from a certain perspective, because he is literally saying "If my existence makes you uncomfortable, then fuck you!"
he was trying end Dora existence to do so
I will never understand why this was never in the original kh2
The developers don't understand that either. That's probably why they added it. :P
@Webidiolchiu94 actually in the original version of Kingdom Hearts 2 you don't get to fight him at all it's only a cutscene and that's how it ended off. Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix is where you get to fight Roxas + the new cutscenes.
Fighting Roxas was never available on the PS2 version of Kingdom Hearts 2 unless you have the Final Mix version which was only in Japanese.
Silent Protagonist That might explain why there isn't a save point near where the battle takes place. It was so tedious having to walk to the battle over and over again after getting wrecked by Roxas.
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The whole thing is in the original game just not the fight
I fucking always cry with Axel's tear, this broke my heart
+Bale-e I know how you feel, buddy :'c
I can't wait for the scene when Roxas meets back up with Riku.
Sora: So Roxas said he defeated you.
Riku: Really? Because that's not quite what I remember.
Roxas: well you see, I defeated you and then you turned into the Heartless of Xehanort and then I lost. So technically I lost to Xehanort's Heartless not you. And technically that was your mind, Terra's Darkness and Master Xehanort's Heart so it was like 3 Keyblade users vs 1.
Riku said Roxas beat him tho
+orangeapples but there are Ventus's and Sora's heart in Roxas's mind,so that was 3 vs 3 wasn't it?
Not quite. Roxas is a part of Sora. But that doesn't mean Ventus and Sora are a part of Roxas. Confusingly enough, Ventus and Roxas are a part of Sora's heart.
ahahahah u have a lot of imagination
+Kozato Enma lmfao!
Dammit Nomura. How could you create such an amazing moment of story, music, gameplay and emotion, and yet drop the ball so hard with kh3.
I’ve thought the same for years after KH3 officially dropped . I thought it would be a better kh2
@@PBG Yeah I get that, not sure if you know but 3 and 4 are by the same team that made BBS, ReCom, and DDD, while KH1 and 2 team went to make FF15 and FF7 remake
@@MadDogSolo but Birth by Sleep was great
@@smoker5989 no, it *really* wasn't
@@dillonmalbrue4179 eh. I liked it
the very first KH game that i played was KH 358/2 days, so this thing just broke my heart in many pieces
Me too!!! this is so sadd
U wrote this 2 years ago, but same. and im like who the fuck does this sora bitch think he is anyways?!!!!! I was bitter the entire time through kh1. like how does this child compare to the wonderful roxas?
Same
I went in this blind since 2 was the first one I played but never finished it until a couple of years ago, I got 358/2 later on. Looking back now the stuff with Roxas (especially at the start of the game) is depressing as fuck.
The first time I saw that scene with Roxas and Axel talking, my cat (also named Axel) ran away. He came back the next day, but seeing the scene with this Axel, and losing my own Axel left me inconsolable.
Guess I'm on the whiny side of youtube again.
xsjado22 hey if your pet ran away you'd be sad too
+xsjado22 found the comment made by a lifeless fatass XD
r/thathappened
Lizzyluvsyou Duh your the one with a double chin now quiet or I’ll make you pay more for the entertainment package
No better battle than 2 Keyblade wielders.
A better battle would be two duel wield keyblade...wielders?
+FAiD BlueKnight Nah, twin Keyblades isn't as cool when there are multiple wielders...
It's special cause it is so rare :P
Reilitas No, it would be a pain, you can't block with two keyblades. The battle would be me rolling until I'm dizzy.
@@simplyakoala7220 Kingdom Hearts 3 Remind: Am I a joke to you?
I remember the amount of chills this battle sent down my spine. You see an organization member appear before you and you see the 2 Keyblades with you know who’s theme playing in the background my jaw dropped and stayed dropped the whole fight
Haha very funny Donald, I see what you did there. "But Nobody could defeat Riku."
Lie down
Try not to cry
Cry a lot
Naoki Abe me 2
Didn't cry
Same
Cassuiad'ia Crazygal jeez your picture is something else
CJAdams97 why thank you. ;)
Roxas: Someone from the dark
Me: OH MY GOD, HES SO GODDAMN COOL!
That line was actually a little cringe
Tfs 😂😂😂
@@RadFang no it's not.
@@GeorgiaAndrea yes, it is.
@@RadFang wasnt cringe for , it was cool
My guess is that Nomura wanted to add the fight between Sora and Roxas in the original, but ran out of time. So he just used the Final Mix as an excuse to add it back in.
Kartik Aman Saraf bruh ran outta time? Did you see how much time that mans had for kh3 like oml
@@Flaw9679 Maybe he didn't want to make the same mistake twice?
Nathan Evans dont think twice
That’s exactly what happened. Organization XIII fights take a long time to make.
@@darknight10000 they changed the engine twice that's why it took so long
Rewatching this after being done with KH3. Man, Sora's basic combo looks and feels so much better in this game.
The world's are too but Kingdom hearts 3 is still good and doesn't deserve the hate
KH3 combat > KH2
The reaction command for 2 felt better for some reason than it did on 3
@@carlosjaquez3419 I think the problem at least to me is that they just put to much stuff in the damn reaction commands
when you play with style though, it looks pretty wicked
It’s amazing how much the music can change how we feel about this battle. Really hits the heart.
Damn...the music gets me every time...
true. while i recorded it made my heart beat super fast.
And that one tear that Axels sheds while saying goodbye. :'(
M21cat Damn..... that keyblade warping gets you every time....
This fight is a masterpiece
My favorite in the series truly
Several years later, and this fight still hits me in the feels.. I'm not crying 💔😭
This is how it feels like to fight your own brother
how does it feel to fight your own "self"
No, they were hitting themselves.
Takes "stop hitting yourself" to a new level
Roxas is like soras psych
See, that makes me wonder, IF Sora ever goes home other than the short stints in between games, to see family and whatnot would Roxas go with since they are basically brothers at this point
This fight is probably the hardest fight in the entire game. I can’t really see what I’m doing with the tears in my eyes
The fact that they used Roxas’ theme for this fight… Made me cry the whole time
This is a separate track titled "The Other Promise" and it's _sadder_ than Roxas' theme.
If only they had a surgeon. Maybe then they could find out if they have a heart.
they do but not a real one....sorta ( dream drop explains it ) its sad roxas axel and xion were lied too about not having hearts just so the 13 seekers of darkness to be made
Shade N woosh
Who else cried because of the music? T_T
I did I loved that boss battle
Mia Lane Kingdom Hearts has the best Music.
ikr? :D
Me :c
Mia Lane I did
This is truly art. The music being sad and somewhat toned down to reflect Roxas’ painful, desperate struggle.
On top of just that, everything is perfect. The fact this fight happens on Sora’s window, the fact that Roxas uses the same voice effects as when you play as him, the difficulty is just right imo. The best boss battle in all of Kingdom Hearts for me
I spent all night fighting roxas and after many failed attempts I finally won and as soon as I did the power went out before I could save
mriddley wow dude that sucks lmao
@@elijahlopez4057 you have no idea I spent the rest of the next day trying to beat him again
mriddley i’m about to play re chain of memories on proud for the first time
@@elijahlopez4057 good luck my friend I skipped a few because I really wanted to play 3 but as soon as I'm done in going back to play them all from the beginning on proud mode
mriddley Good looks brother i’m on my wait to monsters inc second run
Roxas: Take care.... Okay?
Axel: Right back at ya, buddy.....
I just noticed Axels tear and I cried
YES. that part always gets me. that one axel tear makes me weak
I will always have that memorized
i feel all ur commenters pain im sad to
oml it was so so sweet!
The Axel on this scene wasn't the real one, Still Close enough
When Axel showed a tear, I lost my man card :(
Soras_nobody_roxas Better to know you have a heart, then to have a man card
Who didn't )':
I didn't lose it then. I lost it a LONG time ago.
We all did
You know Axel has a heart when he shed a tear
That moment when you let Roxas win because you do not want to hurt him
True
Edward Drakesang not really for me
i didnt let him win, he just beat me on his own
Then beat the crap out of him 10 tries later
Roxas kept winning cause I was playing in critical mode
This fight. This was the fight that made me get good in critical mode. Ill always love this fight. The setting, the music, the combat, everything blends to making a great ass boss fight.
This is so sad at the end of the battle
Yeah ):
ikr
I agree I cry so hard reminds me a lot of sad memories
Yes 😢
And that fight and scene after a fight, ladies and gentelmen, are my favourite from all of this series. Gets me into tears every single time, no matter if I play or just watch.
The music was perfectly timed. Climax happened right as Roxas used his ultimate move and when he pointed the oblivion at Sora.
And to think....
I cried over Ventus falling asleep for 12 years.
THEN THIS SHIT COMES OUT AND I CAN'T STOP SOBBING.
OH GOD ME TOO, I´M F*CKING DYING INSIDE RIGHT NOW.
"Man this is some good ice cream"
-Axel
(spoilers to 358/2 days)
"Xion, no!! Who else will I have ice cream with?!"
Rip Axel.
This is honestly one of the best boss fights I've ever experienced mostly for the music lol. I always get goosebumps when the track starts to amp up, it's done SOOOOO well. It really defines Roxas as a character just through a song. God, this game is a masterpiece. 💜
The FM scene with Roxas & Axel sure does get a lot of people talking and gets them confused too. What are your theories to what the scene might be? I would love to hear them and other people can see too. (:
idk maybe it was a flashback from roxas and sora :P
Heribert Padilla well it kinda doesnt make sense cuz they faded but whatever square enix has his reasons
The roxas and Xemnas scene was when Sora became a heartless in KH1, and the Axel and Roxas scene took place after roxas returned to sora. This is confirmed by the final mix scene after roxas returns to him where Riku, Namine and Axel are all talking and Axel says he wants to go see someone, then he opens a portal, and the Roxas and Axel scene happens
I believe that scene is suppose to show what happens to Nobodies before they vanish and or join their original selves, hence the fading. However Roxas went back to Sora, also probably the reason why you get the Keyblade "two become one". Maybe Axel and Roxas wanted to talk before they parted ways. It was also there to show that Nobodies could grow hearts, and that's why Axel cries. Not sure, just guessing but it is a fantastic scene.
Nobodies do have hearts. They all have them in time, Xemnas just lied to them and make them think they didn't all along. All along Kingdom Hearts was just a trick to share Xemnas's original heart with the hearts of the original members of Organization XIII, however he knew there were some who weren't fit for the task so he let them get eliminated one by one. Xehanort is a cruel tactician.
When you touch hearts with others without protection this happens
Quite literally.
All of 358/2 days is worth it, just for letting that after battle scene exist.
This fight has been kicking my ass the past couple days and after watching this i've realized that there's so much i just haven't done, mainly leveling my drive forms to get movement abilities.
When you forget to press guard/reflect on his first move 👁👄👁
"Nobody can defeat riku" but roxas is a nobody
Bladelight6 He's also created from Sora's Original Body & Sora beat Riku
This scene always makes me tear up
This song alone gives me feels
The best boss fight in all of gaming. The boss design the story the atmosphere the stakes everything is on point
It's a heart to heart thing. they are communicating through the connection.
the power of waking?
9:37 Never noticed before, but it sounds like Axel is fighting to hold it together and not cry. Looks away and mentions the ice cream to distract from his emotions.
We just boughta sleep on how for once sora says "it's over!" Then the fight actually ends? 3:40
That happens more frequently than you think considering I'm KH2 the only way to end the fight is with a move considered as a "finisher" and Sora only says those lines on finishers, I've ended fights myself with Sora landing the final blow saying "this is it!" Lol
And the perfect song timing as well...
This boss fight is so notorious for catching everyone off guard with its huge difficulty spike. At least for first time players.
Something i love about this fight is how if you block one of roxas' attacks, he loses balance and almost falls backwards. Like other bosses might recoil when an attack is blocked but Roxas straight up almost falls on his ass lol. It's a small detail but shows that as strong as roxas is, he still isn't as experienced as the other organization members.
there is no way those two fought without sora and survived
It was so sad when sora finished off roxas
Yup. I was really tormented when I had to fight Roxas. Still am to this day.
@@GeorgiaAndrea same man
A 4th grade boy crying inside me
Is Roxas evil?
This music is perfect for this fight, it just embraces the anger mixed with sadness that Roxas feels during this fight