Great video! I would have loved to have seen inside a new beko vented model. I know that you did a teardown of an old beko vented model, i was curious about the build quality and repairability of a new one such as DTLV70041 as there are no videos or photos online showing the internals. P.S I think indesit have discontinued the 7kg model now.
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@@How-to-repairI have a bosch vented tumble dryer but could do with a 2nd dryer to run along side due to a busy business would this dryer be OK and safe for a busy dog grooming and pet bedding laundry service business who does hoover where the fluff filter goes often
Excellent video, I could strip this down no problem, think I'll cancel the extended warranty I could replace any part myself. Could you retrofit another jockey wheel on the other side and would this benefit the machine make it more reliable do you think?
Fantastic videos. Just brought the hotpoint version for £142 never realised they were the same. . Cant fault this Channel for information and how to videos.
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Your work is simply invaluable. I think half of the planned obsolescence problems would be solved if there was such a detailed overview for each device, so that consumers could make a conscientious decision as to whether a device can be repaired easily and economically. Many thanks for your work and greetings from Germany! I subscribed to you immediately!
Nice, just bought that very model, hopefully it won't break down for some time unlike crappy Candy condenser that broke down 3 times within 18 months, always the capacitor that was badly positioned.
I bought this in August last year and by October had to get it repaired he said it's because I wasn't using the supplied metal vent hose.. he said do not use any other as it will not work
I can't see what he is meaning as this is a vented tumble dryer and only warm air passes through it so therefore it makes no difference if it's aluminium or the universal type, moisture is more likely to condense on cold metal than it is with the fabric type, so in my opinion I think he is totally incorrect. Please remember to subscribe to the channel has that really helps us
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Great video. An experienced repair engineer’s unbiased opinion on which dryer is most reliable / economical to repair is just what I’ve been looking for as my Hoover HDC6 has finally reached the end of its life after 20 years faithful service (motor fault which isn’t the capacitor…) But, I can only find one video in this series. Have you made any more tumble dryer unboxing / review videos? I would love to see them!
I have not made more videos at the moment as I've been overloaded on other work, but in my opinion, if you can go with a vented dryer they are far more reliable. I still like the Electrolux/Zanussi type machines as they are reasonably well made, but the Hotpoint and indesit I'm a very basic system and easy to work on
The manufacturer states to only use the supplied vent pipe. Is the longer plastic ones perfectly ok to use? We have to wheel the machine to our back door in our kitchen.
metal ones are used now because plastic is combustible. Lint can get stuck on thin mesh plastic pipes that some manufacturers provide which can result in a fire and the plastic is combustible too which makes the fire worse.
Great video. Would you recommend this over the condenser version of the same machine? I have a White Knight, vented tumble dryer which is 14 years old and sadly on it's way out. I want a dryer that gets the clothes bone dry. so slightly worried about one with sensors on, as they sound like they don't get the clothes really dry.
Iain, I had a Creda condenser (T630CW) for 20 yrs until recently but switched to heat pump to reduce elec cost (and the condesner efficicency was questionable given the humidity generated). Old dryers *seem* more energy-hungry than newer ones (heat pumps not included). Paul, the site author, might have a view on that. At a typical 2.5kwh, be prepared for a full cottons load to cost over £1 from Oct (current cost at national capped rate, c 80p).
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So its say do not use a plastic hose on indesit . But metal one far to short . How do i make an extension where does it not negate my insurance of the appliance
Just got the Indesit Vented Dryer. There is a bend where the tube goes up and attaches due to position of my outside vent. it's 1.5 metres high so not straight and close as the manual says. Is that ok? Thanks.
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At 32:30, you say that the drawings show two jockey wheels but it only has one. At 1:30, you say Indisit is cheaper than the identical Hotpoint ... Does the Hotpoint have 2 wheels and the cheaper Indesit only have one ? I wonder ?
I don't think the manufacturers do it this way they just produce model numbers for the dryers and this may change between the stores that you buy. This is how manufacturers work with superstores to help them with the price comparison. Do you know when they state you won't find it cheaper, that's because one model is associated to one superstor. I hope that explains it reasonably well for you
I can't comprehend why anyone would buy an 'old tech' dryer now, with electricity being so expensive, when heat pump dryers can be bought for not much more (they vary significantly in price but cheaper models can be had for £300-350) and save at least 50% of energy. I appreciate they're more complicated, thus there's more to go wrong, and take longer to dry, but the running costs now can't be ignored, and they're kinder to clothes as they dry at a much lower temp. Which? calculates that running an old tech dryer three times a week for a year costs £115-163 (current models it's tested) and £38-78 for heat pump (current models it's tested). Taking the median of these figures - £139 and £58 - that's a £80/annum saving: a third of the cost of an old tech dryer *each year*. And that £80 will become over £100 from Oct, when elecy prices increase significantly. Thus old tech makes sense only if you're drying occasionally, up to say once a week. In the winter families with children could well be drying four or five times a week (Which? states three is average overall). Obv in the summer months line-drying is feasible. As I have solar panels, and because my heat pump dryer (which I'm perfectly satisfied with, by the way) draws 800 watts, on moderately sunny says it costs nowt to run, whereas the typical panel number output, of c 2000 watts peak, couldn't meet demand of old tech dryers at 2500 watts (current Indesit 8kg condenser dryer tested by Which? = 2500 watts). Enjoying this useful site, thanks!
Marcus let me thank you for the very long reply but I am going to respond we have a slight difference in opinion. If you speak to any engineer they will tell you that the heat pump dryers on average last 5 years maximum and when they go wrong it's normally a gas problem or compressor or pcb. this makes them unaffordable to repair and this is engineers, the general public have no chance of being able to ever repair this type of appliance. I do agree with you that entry-level heat pump tumble dryers ar around £350 you pay for what you get, I also agree with you that they are highly efficient but take three times the time to dry the clothes. but when you look at mid-market machines costing £500 there is no justification in my eyes, I would prefer to spend the £300 difference on creating the energy to be able to run the tumble dryer. the technology in heat pump dryers, a compressor is used to create heat on the drying side and use the cooling side to condense moist air into a liquid, if this circuit is not maintained or gas levels slightly fluctuate then the temperatures will not be reached, one of the most common questions that come into our website is our heat pump dryer is taking forever to dry and this is always down to either poor maintenance which the general public is unable to do, I realize that not all people have the capability or space to be able to put solar but at the moment in my eyes the cost of the machine is not worth it, the reliability is not there yet and manufacturers are still making machines with built-in obsolescence. my whole workshop is run on solar no grid tie so iam a fan of it but not with these dryers sorry Thank you For leaving a comment this is for you th-cam.com/users/shortse432SAb2g08 please remember to subscribe as that's is what keeps this channel going. Thanks 👍
@@How-to-repair Paul, thanks for the kind, detailed reply. You're the expert, so I'm interested in your claim that HP dryers lack longevity (of which I know nothing). As you'd expect, Which? hasn't reported on this as they're too new for much data to be available - but you know from experience and discussion with colleagues. I've had one for a few years, used once or twice a week, so early days yet, but if expensive repair is needed by more than several % of machines in the first say several years (or if efficiency noticeably reduces), as you suggest, that's a significant downside. I guess we'd have to agree that the more expensive elecy gets - and we know it is - the stronger the argument for HP dryers EVEN IF they are less durable than old tech. For as I pointed out via the Which? figures, three years of 'extra' elecy cost could pay for a cheap HP dryer - so assuming you're correct and they could have to be scrapped after five years as uneconomic repair, in purely cost (not environmental) terms they've paid for themselves. So I disagree with you on economics grounds (but not engineering/durability as you're the 'man'!) Thus, the putative five-yr life of a cheap HP dryer at average (Which?) annual cycles saves, conservatively, £75/annum - £375 over five yrs. That £375 will be £500+ from October. This well pays for a cheaper dryer. And of course *most* will last longer than five years and perhaps nearer 10, which to me makes them a -no-brainer'. For me, though not all, longer drying time doesn't matter (and there is the minor advantage of better care of clothes per cooler temp). IF one has solar, meeting most of old tech dryer elecy cost, it makes more sense to use old tech as the appliance is (i) cheaper - though not necessarily by much - and, your point, is more durable and user-repairable (and I've repaired my old condenser dryer as the tech's just within my competence). BUT most don't, and won't, have solar, and that's not going to change soon, thus I'd argue what matters is the above economic analysis. What we know is that electrical appliance efficiency is more prominent than ever, given that real terms elecy price is greater than ever and in 'heat' appliances can dwarf the purchase price over several years. On a tangent, irritatingly Which? analysis shows you can't trust the official efficiency rating of appliances either. Their 'real world' use tests show that, other things being equal, appliances with lower ratings can be more efficient than those with higher. I look forward to reading your opinions of the dryers you've bought to investigate and have, of course, subscribed. Thanks for such useful, helpful info for when the likes of my washer breaks down... Finally, I was interested in your latest Indesit dryer strip-down. We all know Whirlpool Corp's been stung with dryer fires - and you've confirmed they've enhanced the safety of newer ones. I wonder how long manufacturers will make old tech dryers? They'll be under pressure to go 'environment-friendly'... I might also add that though I argue for HP dryers, I'm not nearly so convinced by the air source HP stuff gov't pushes, which I think is madness to and for the average h/holder, not least 'cos they'll see no reduction in their fuel bills given the cost of elecy (partic without solar) and the huge upfront cost. potential installation disruption and lack of competent servicing engineers nationally. This is tech for at least a decade hence.
I am really a great lover of the technology with heat pump dryers, 1st with regards your clothing lasting longer because of the cool dry, I tumbling the clothes for 3 hours means more fibers will come out of the cloths, 2nd there is no economical way to repair a tumble dryer that needs gas the repair from an engineers point of view will be in excess of £150 that's if you can get an engineer was willing to take on the job. if a heat pump dryer lasts 5 years and then is unrepairable this means it will go to the scrap. if a vented or condenser tumble dryer goes wrong after 8 years it is still affordable to repair. the cost of money saving is one aspect when it comes to saving money with electricity, but the cost to the environment is an unacceptable Factor the right to repair act is coming out because of this I do not know the exact costs of recycling the machine but it is an unacceptable level when you consider all the steel has to be smelted down to be reused and this uses vast amount of energy but not to you. we could both rant on lol but we have a slight disagreement on the way that we look at things, let's just say we agree to disagree. as soon as I see these heat pump dryers lasting I will be the first to praise them, when they use steel pipes on the cooling system instead of stainless steel they are guaranteed to rust over a period of time and their therfore leaking gas.
I used indesit idv75 for 12 years and just now bering gon and the pin. I love that dryer. Now need buy new one and thing for that one. And To everyone very be careful on Ebye is lots of FAKE bering bronze for sale. Is a proper metal only painting and look like bronze but wil damaged the pin completely. U buy 3 of them all was FAKE and was normal meta a painting bronze color. I reported that seller to Ebay support .
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Great video! I would have loved to have seen inside a new beko vented model. I know that you did a teardown of an old beko vented model, i was curious about the build quality and repairability of a new one such as DTLV70041 as there are no videos or photos online showing the internals. P.S I think indesit have discontinued the 7kg model now.
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@@How-to-repairI have a bosch vented tumble dryer but could do with a 2nd dryer to run along side due to a busy business would this dryer be OK and safe for a busy dog grooming and pet bedding laundry service business who does hoover where the fluff filter goes often
My dad has a Creda vented machine, 30+ years old still going strong. Wish they'd make them like that still.
Excellent video, I could strip this down no problem, think I'll cancel the extended warranty I could replace any part myself. Could you retrofit another jockey wheel on the other side and would this benefit the machine make it more reliable do you think?
Fantastic videos. Just brought the hotpoint version for £142 never realised they were the same. . Cant fault this Channel for information and how to videos.
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Your work is simply invaluable.
I think half of the planned obsolescence problems would be solved if there was such a detailed overview for each device, so that consumers could make a conscientious decision as to whether a device can be repaired easily and economically.
Many thanks for your work and greetings from Germany!
I subscribed to you immediately!
Nice, just bought that very model, hopefully it won't break down for some time unlike crappy Candy condenser that broke down 3 times within 18 months, always the capacitor that was badly positioned.
I bought this in August last year and by October had to get it repaired he said it's because I wasn't using the supplied metal vent hose.. he said do not use any other as it will not work
I can't see what he is meaning as this is a vented tumble dryer and only warm air passes through it so therefore it makes no difference if it's aluminium or the universal type, moisture is more likely to condense on cold metal than it is with the fabric type, so in my opinion I think he is totally incorrect. Please remember to subscribe to the channel has that really helps us
This blokes a legend!!
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Great video. An experienced repair engineer’s unbiased opinion on which dryer is most reliable / economical to repair is just what I’ve been looking for as my Hoover HDC6 has finally reached the end of its life after 20 years faithful service (motor fault which isn’t the capacitor…)
But, I can only find one video in this series. Have you made any more tumble dryer unboxing / review videos? I would love to see them!
I have not made more videos at the moment as I've been overloaded on other work, but in my opinion, if you can go with a vented dryer they are far more reliable. I still like the Electrolux/Zanussi type machines as they are reasonably well made, but the Hotpoint and indesit I'm a very basic system and easy to work on
The manufacturer states to only use the supplied vent pipe. Is the longer plastic ones perfectly ok to use? We have to wheel the machine to our back door in our kitchen.
metal ones are used now because plastic is combustible. Lint can get stuck on thin mesh plastic pipes that some manufacturers provide which can result in a fire and the plastic is combustible too which makes the fire worse.
The more rigid metal ones - rather than 'foil' - are best as they don't so easily compress and restrict exhaust.
@@marcusstewart3044 what ridged ones do you recommend.
this will work on splendide dryers and ariston dryers
Great video. Would you recommend this over the condenser version of the same machine? I have a White Knight, vented tumble dryer which is 14 years old and sadly on it's way out. I want a dryer that gets the clothes bone dry. so slightly worried about one with sensors on, as they sound like they don't get the clothes really dry.
On the subject of no delayed timer, a simple mechanical socket timer would do the job.
Iain, I had a Creda condenser (T630CW) for 20 yrs until recently but switched to heat pump to reduce elec cost (and the condesner efficicency was questionable given the humidity generated). Old dryers *seem* more energy-hungry than newer ones (heat pumps not included). Paul, the site author, might have a view on that. At a typical 2.5kwh, be prepared for a full cottons load to cost over £1 from Oct (current cost at national capped rate, c 80p).
I just ordered one I hope it's worth it's money,
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Congratulacion for comentes of both sides. They are very good, very interesting, and ***** (5 stars). Thank you.
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So its say do not use a plastic hose on indesit . But metal one far to short . How do i make an extension where does it not negate my insurance of the appliance
Excellent video and so well explained. Thank you.
Really appreciate all the information in this video, thanks 👍
Do you press the hot button in or flat
Just got the Indesit Vented Dryer.
There is a bend where the tube goes up and attaches due to position of my outside vent. it's 1.5 metres high so not straight and close as the manual says. Is that ok?
Thanks.
Hi is the see through window on the front made of glass or plastic? Thanks
some tumble dryers use plastic, some used glass depending on the model of the machine but most tumble dryers nowadays are using plastic
I don’t understand which one is good to buy
Why are tumble dryers so much noisier than washing machines when turning at a slow speed?
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At 32:30, you say that the drawings show two jockey wheels but it only has one.
At 1:30, you say Indisit is cheaper than the identical Hotpoint ...
Does the Hotpoint have 2 wheels and the cheaper Indesit only have one ? I wonder ?
a few generations would this the nerwest the previous being the idv75 and before that would be the is60v
I don't think the manufacturers do it this way they just produce model numbers for the dryers and this may change between the stores that you buy. This is how manufacturers work with superstores to help them with the price comparison. Do you know when they state you won't find it cheaper, that's because one model is associated to one superstor. I hope that explains it reasonably well for you
@@How-to-repair alright
the indesit idv75 was the replacement of the indesit idv65
Superb!
I can't comprehend why anyone would buy an 'old tech' dryer now, with electricity being so expensive, when heat pump dryers can be bought for not much more (they vary significantly in price but cheaper models can be had for £300-350) and save at least 50% of energy. I appreciate they're more complicated, thus there's more to go wrong, and take longer to dry, but the running costs now can't be ignored, and they're kinder to clothes as they dry at a much lower temp. Which? calculates that running an old tech dryer three times a week for a year costs £115-163 (current models it's tested) and £38-78 for heat pump (current models it's tested). Taking the median of these figures - £139 and £58 - that's a £80/annum saving: a third of the cost of an old tech dryer *each year*. And that £80 will become over £100 from Oct, when elecy prices increase significantly.
Thus old tech makes sense only if you're drying occasionally, up to say once a week. In the winter families with children could well be drying four or five times a week (Which? states three is average overall). Obv in the summer months line-drying is feasible.
As I have solar panels, and because my heat pump dryer (which I'm perfectly satisfied with, by the way) draws 800 watts, on moderately sunny says it costs nowt to run, whereas the typical panel number output, of c 2000 watts peak, couldn't meet demand of old tech dryers at 2500 watts (current Indesit 8kg condenser dryer tested by Which? = 2500 watts).
Enjoying this useful site, thanks!
Marcus let me thank you for the very long reply but I am going to respond we have a slight difference in opinion.
If you speak to any engineer they will tell you that the heat pump dryers on average last 5 years maximum and when they go wrong it's normally a gas problem or compressor or pcb. this makes them unaffordable to repair and this is engineers, the general public have no chance of being able to ever repair this type of appliance.
I do agree with you that entry-level heat pump tumble dryers ar around £350 you pay for what you get, I also agree with you that they are highly efficient but take three times the time to dry the clothes. but when you look at mid-market machines costing £500 there is no justification in my eyes, I would prefer to spend the £300 difference on creating the energy to be able to run the tumble dryer. the technology in heat pump dryers, a compressor is used to create heat on the drying side and use the cooling side to condense moist air into a liquid, if this circuit is not maintained or gas levels slightly fluctuate then the temperatures will not be reached, one of the most common questions that come into our website is our heat pump dryer is taking forever to dry and this is always down to either poor maintenance which the general public is unable to do, I realize that not all people have the capability or space to be able to put solar but at the moment in my eyes
the cost of the machine is not worth it, the reliability is not there yet and manufacturers are still making machines with built-in obsolescence. my whole workshop is run on solar no grid tie so iam a fan of it but not with these dryers sorry
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@@How-to-repair Paul, thanks for the kind, detailed reply. You're the expert, so I'm interested in your claim that HP dryers lack longevity (of which I know nothing). As you'd expect, Which? hasn't reported on this as they're too new for much data to be available - but you know from experience and discussion with colleagues. I've had one for a few years, used once or twice a week, so early days yet, but if expensive repair is needed by more than several % of machines in the first say several years (or if efficiency noticeably reduces), as you suggest, that's a significant downside. I guess we'd have to agree that the more expensive elecy gets - and we know it is - the stronger the argument for HP dryers EVEN IF they are less durable than old tech. For as I pointed out via the Which? figures, three years of 'extra' elecy cost could pay for a cheap HP dryer - so assuming you're correct and they could have to be scrapped after five years as uneconomic repair, in purely cost (not environmental) terms they've paid for themselves. So I disagree with you on economics grounds (but not engineering/durability as you're the 'man'!) Thus, the putative five-yr life of a cheap HP dryer at average (Which?) annual cycles saves, conservatively, £75/annum - £375 over five yrs. That £375 will be £500+ from October. This well pays for a cheaper dryer. And of course *most* will last longer than five years and perhaps nearer 10, which to me makes them a -no-brainer'. For me, though not all, longer drying time doesn't matter (and there is the minor advantage of better care of clothes per cooler temp).
IF one has solar, meeting most of old tech dryer elecy cost, it makes more sense to use old tech as the appliance is (i) cheaper - though not necessarily by much - and, your point, is more durable and user-repairable (and I've repaired my old condenser dryer as the tech's just within my competence). BUT most don't, and won't, have solar, and that's not going to change soon, thus I'd argue what matters is the above economic analysis. What we know is that electrical appliance efficiency is more prominent than ever, given that real terms elecy price is greater than ever and in 'heat' appliances can dwarf the purchase price over several years.
On a tangent, irritatingly Which? analysis shows you can't trust the official efficiency rating of appliances either. Their 'real world' use tests show that, other things being equal, appliances with lower ratings can be more efficient than those with higher.
I look forward to reading your opinions of the dryers you've bought to investigate and have, of course, subscribed. Thanks for such useful, helpful info for when the likes of my washer breaks down...
Finally, I was interested in your latest Indesit dryer strip-down. We all know Whirlpool Corp's been stung with dryer fires - and you've confirmed they've enhanced the safety of newer ones. I wonder how long manufacturers will make old tech dryers? They'll be under pressure to go 'environment-friendly'... I might also add that though I argue for HP dryers, I'm not nearly so convinced by the air source HP stuff gov't pushes, which I think is madness to and for the average h/holder, not least 'cos they'll see no reduction in their fuel bills given the cost of elecy (partic without solar) and the huge upfront cost. potential installation disruption and lack of competent servicing engineers nationally. This is tech for at least a decade hence.
I am really a great lover of the technology with heat pump dryers, 1st with regards your clothing lasting longer because of the cool dry, I tumbling the clothes for 3 hours means more fibers will come out of the cloths,
2nd there is no economical way to repair a tumble dryer that needs gas the repair from an engineers point of view will be in excess of £150 that's if you can get an engineer was willing to take on the job.
if a heat pump dryer lasts 5 years and then is unrepairable this means it will go to the scrap.
if a vented or condenser tumble dryer goes wrong after 8 years it is still affordable to repair.
the cost of money saving is one aspect when it comes to saving money with electricity,
but the cost to the environment is an unacceptable Factor the right to repair act is coming out because of this
I do not know the exact costs of recycling the machine but it is an unacceptable level when you consider all the steel has to be smelted down to be reused and this uses vast amount of energy but not to you.
we could both rant on lol but we have a slight disagreement on the way that we look at things, let's just say we agree to disagree.
as soon as I see these heat pump dryers lasting I will be the first to praise them, when they use steel pipes on the cooling system instead of stainless steel they are guaranteed to rust over a period of time and their therfore leaking gas.
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I used indesit idv75 for 12 years and just now bering gon and the pin. I love that dryer. Now need buy new one and thing for that one. And To everyone very be careful on Ebye is lots of FAKE bering bronze for sale. Is a proper metal only painting and look like bronze but wil damaged the pin completely. U buy 3 of them all was FAKE and was normal meta a painting bronze color. I reported that seller to Ebay support .