This song should have been VH’s Stairway to Heaven the Demo is truly amazing it’s like a rebirth to my ears. The Audio quality is amazing I am guessing this is first or second generation masters. Sonically superior to the old circulation. Alex open the vaults please!
The best thing about hearing recordings like this is it gives you an understanding of what producers do in the studio. Sometimes the changes ruin songs but sometimes they bring out the very best of a raw song's potential. Very often the band fights to keep a song original because they wrote it but a good producer knows what will sell and can hear things the band can't.
so true.. i thought of this during the zero demos.. Ted did an incredible job polishing up the tunes for VH 1. Turning them into incredibly cool songs from just merely good ones...
Mine to brother…. I can never forget hanging in the HS parking lot with my buddy that had a pumped out Alpine stereo with a 200 w amp behind the seat. Our favorite song to crank was the beginning of Mean Street…. That intro and when the band came in you could hear it from the parking lot to the principals office…. We would keep it going for 30 seconds or so and shut it down…. Man that was the best!!
You'll find that to be the case with some of these demos. This one is from the demos they did at Warner Bros in 1977 prior to making the first album. There's a demo where there's more harmonies on D.O.A. that I wish they would have used on the album version.
53 year old here! I can tell you I have dissected almost every song that VH has played and recorded. And it makes me thankful that I was inspired by this band so much. “Where have all the good times gone?” ..Ray Davies of the Kinks. Eddie loved that band
WACF...My favorite Van Halen album! Note to self: Take an entire day and listen to every one of these rare demo tracks. Absolute GOLD!!! Thank you for posting these!
I look at these pictures and can't help but think about all the interviews I've read over the years about the band VH. How Michael Anthony was able to keep himself together facing all the negativity he got from each member is f'ing mind blowing. The dude must have unmeasurable will power.
That must've been later, because in the Roth days he sang his heart out, screaming right along with Dave (on fire), and he always got a bass solo live. He obviously had a great time on stage. Perhaps these stories are overinflated
I read that Eddie had to constantly show him how to play the bass parts. He wasn't very talented early on except he was one of the best background vocalists ever.
I've read interviews where Ed proclaimed that that epic, utterly unique back up vocal was himself. Jfc.. Do not mistake me, I love the dude, but ffs.. Really?
I can't think of anything Dave has said negative about Michael or acted that way towards him. Michael's the one that has talked junk about Roth because he's so far up Sammy's ass.
What BLOWS MY MIND is knowing just how much music Ed recorded that’s sitting uncatalogued and in listened-to down in 5150! I think I heard Wolfie say that “it would take a team a long time time go through it”. Also did anyone else hear that Ed on a whim and pulled an old tape out and played it, had completely forgotten the music but it was used for “Finish What You Started?” Amazing
There is a Treasure Trove of music in those Vaults!!! Problem is Alex and Wolf don’t care about the DieHards they think we’re idiots because we want hear more from the King.
That last bit about Ed forgetting about the music but using it for Finish What Ya Started coupled with Ed saying in a CNN interview that "there's a lot of music waiting to be heard" in the vault instantly discredits Wolf saying Eddie released everything worth releasing. When in actuality Ed couldn't know that for sure without going back and listening to it all.
The greatest R&R band to ever grace the stage. Been a passionate fan of VH since I was stopped in my tracks when hearing them for the very first time on vinyl back in 1979. I was 15 years old and blown away! RIP Eddie!
Same here , I remember my mom would never let me and my brother listen to any hard rock , she always thought it was devil music lol , when the first Van Halen album came out , a friend of ours in the apartments we lived in who also loved guitar fueled rock , brought over Van Halen’s first album when our mom was working , and we all just sat there blown away by the music , ie guitar sound was thunderous , and then we heard eruption !? Holy cow we couldn’t even think of how he was making his guitar sound like this , we all thought it was organs and synthesizers we were just blown away by the whole album , that was it we all had to learn how to play electric guitar And all of us soaked it up … Unbelievable talent from the whole band blew away Ozzys band The Mighty Van Halen ❤️👍🏼🎸❤️👍🏼🎸👍🏼❤️
It's soooo cool to hear these songs as the band wrote / performed them originally - usually the final recorded version is best after a quality producer lends a constructive ear and some changes to it - but these raw versions are still WAY COOL...thanks for sharing this !!
Probably my favorite Roth era song. So glad this wasn’t the final version. I mean its great, but I’m finding a big lack of energy. Harmonies are amazing tho! Ed’s solo was surprisingly cool but still not as as good as the LP version.
It’s also amazing how horrible I think it sounds at the end of the chorus when the vocals immediately go into the word Rhyme, instead of the pause that’s in the Final Cut. It makes it a much softer delivery of the word, which I think was really necessary, instead of just blurting out RHYME!!!! Which to me sounds ridiculous everytime. Lol
@powrplaya3266 The source of Ed's unfounded disdain for Mike - he often got all the credit for backing vocals. Many forget or did not know that Alex had to insist Ed stop singing lead. Ed thought he was doing just fine. Anyone who has listened to "How Many Say I" knows Ed is not a good vocalist. But I believe there was something special in the blending of Ed and Mike's voices/harmonies. One of the saddest parts of the VH saga.
What i like about Vh is they Rock Hard, yet its always classy and they never took themselves too serious. They were about Rock and roll and having Fun. Like led zeppelin they has Rock Legends at each position and member. Noone talks about how great micheal and Alex
This demo is from the 1977 Warner Bros demo sessions. A lot of the songs that appeared on those demos that were later on albums had lyric changes. Beautiful Girls is totally different from the original "Bring On The Girls"
I always thought Michael Anthony looked slightly awkward, like he wasn`t sure what to do with himself. Great player and his backing vocals really made the band`s sound. Eddie and Alex crapped on him in my opinion.
This wasn't from 1980. This was from the 1977 Warner Brothers Demos they recorded before the debut. By the time they recorded it for Women And Children First the lyrics had been altered. They wouldn't be using the previous version of the lyrics by 1980.
I swear the more i listen to these rare cuts Alex's playing is off the charts, he always lived in Dave's and Eddie's shadow maybe thats why he doesnt seem to get the proper recognition he deserves...im just sayin!
So the earth has been here for billions of years and all I can say is thank god that I got to be here at the same time when king Edward was here… RIP
Timing is everything :-)
No doubt.
Fuck yeah. Seen them live 24 times in my life. I miss EVH every day but I’m grateful for those memories.
This song should have been VH’s Stairway to Heaven the Demo is truly amazing it’s like a rebirth to my ears. The Audio quality is amazing I am guessing this is first or second generation masters. Sonically superior to the old circulation. Alex open the vaults please!
hell yeah ! a musical genius for sure
Thanks to Ted Templeton for arranging the songs and forcing better lyrics
DLR at his peak. That distinctive voice.
The best thing about hearing recordings like this is it gives you an understanding of what producers do in the studio. Sometimes
the changes ruin songs but sometimes they bring out the very best of a raw song's potential. Very often the band fights to keep
a song original because they wrote it but a good producer knows what will sell and can hear things the band can't.
Ted was the best producer, Donn was the best engineer.
so true.. i thought of this during the zero demos.. Ted did an incredible job polishing up the tunes for VH 1. Turning them into incredibly cool songs from just merely good ones...
There is NO swagger like VH swagger. Made you feel confident as a young man back then. No girl was out of my league
After hearing this, you just HAD to KNOW this band was destined for greatness... Thank you for posting this.
RIP Edward, we ALL miss YOU terribly...
Van Halen The most ultimate Rock Band of all time R.I.P EVH
THANK GOD VH WAS MY HIGH SCHOOL YEARS!!
Mine to brother…. I can never forget hanging in the HS parking lot with my buddy that had a pumped out Alpine stereo with a 200 w amp behind the seat. Our favorite song to crank was the beginning of Mean Street…. That intro and when the band came in you could hear it from the parking lot to the principals office…. We would keep it going for 30 seconds or so and shut it down…. Man that was the best!!
This performance/recording/rendition is great and vastly better than the album performance/recording/rendition.
You'll find that to be the case with some of these demos. This one is from the demos they did at Warner Bros in 1977 prior to making the first album. There's a demo where there's more harmonies on D.O.A. that I wish they would have used on the album version.
This is the REAL VH!
53 year old here! I can tell you I have dissected almost every song that VH has played and recorded. And it makes me thankful that I was inspired by this band so much. “Where have all the good times gone?” ..Ray Davies of the Kinks. Eddie loved that band
WACF...My favorite Van Halen album!
Note to self: Take an entire day and listen to every one of these rare demo tracks. Absolute GOLD!!! Thank you for posting these!
Cool, crank and enjoy!
Yes WCF my favorite and saw them on this tour, unbelievable 🎸😎
@@nhpIII4482Yup, I saw this tour too. This was my first concert back when I was a kid.
WACF is the GOAT album.
There are many rock and metal fans who aren't big VH fans.
Those poor, poor souls.
I look at these pictures and can't help but think about all the interviews I've read over the years about the band VH. How Michael Anthony was able to keep himself together facing all the negativity he got from each member is f'ing mind blowing. The dude must have unmeasurable will power.
That must've been later, because in the Roth days he sang his heart out, screaming right along with Dave (on fire), and he always got a bass solo live. He obviously had a great time on stage. Perhaps these stories are overinflated
I read that Eddie had to constantly show him how to play the bass parts. He wasn't very talented early on except he was one of the best background vocalists ever.
I've read interviews where Ed proclaimed that that epic, utterly unique back up vocal was himself. Jfc.. Do not mistake me, I love the dude, but ffs.. Really?
@@michaelcagney2871I've heard many times over the years that it was indeed Ed playing bass on "So This Is Love" so, who tf knows. 🤷
I can't think of anything Dave has said negative about Michael or acted that way towards him. Michael's the one that has talked junk about Roth because he's so far up Sammy's ass.
The most overlooked album in the catalog. Pure heavy rock like a Dino rumbling through the landscape of American radio
Big party vibe on this tour!
This is an album you can buy? What's it called? I'm loving this new old Van Halen. Didn't know this existed. Thx
Yep, Women And Children First is the greatest album of all time.
Yup..my favorite album for sure
After all this time I still can't choose a best album, but the best song they ever did is Hear About It Later
What BLOWS MY MIND is knowing just how much music Ed recorded that’s sitting uncatalogued and in listened-to down in 5150! I think I heard Wolfie say that “it would take a team a long time time go through it”.
Also did anyone else hear that Ed on a whim and pulled an old tape out and played it, had completely forgotten the music but it was used for “Finish What You Started?” Amazing
There is a Treasure Trove of music in those Vaults!!! Problem is Alex and Wolf don’t care about the DieHards they think we’re idiots because we want hear more from the King.
That last bit about Ed forgetting about the music but using it for Finish What Ya Started coupled with Ed saying in a CNN interview that "there's a lot of music waiting to be heard" in the vault instantly discredits Wolf saying Eddie released everything worth releasing. When in actuality Ed couldn't know that for sure without going back and listening to it all.
WaCF......underated powerhouse rocknroll record.......they toughened this up beautifully.
The greatest R&R band to ever grace the stage. Been a passionate fan of VH since I was stopped in my tracks when hearing them for the very first time on vinyl back in 1979. I was 15 years old and blown away! RIP Eddie!
Same here , I remember my mom would never let me and my brother listen to any hard rock , she always thought it was devil music lol , when the first Van Halen album came out , a friend of ours in the apartments we lived in who also loved guitar fueled rock , brought over Van Halen’s first album when our mom was working , and we all just sat there blown away by the music , ie guitar sound was thunderous , and then we heard eruption !? Holy cow we couldn’t even think of how he was making his guitar sound like this , we all thought it was organs and synthesizers we were just blown away by the whole album , that was it we all had to learn how to play electric guitar And all of us soaked it up … Unbelievable talent from the whole band blew away Ozzys band
The Mighty Van Halen ❤️👍🏼🎸❤️👍🏼🎸👍🏼❤️
So love this track.
They have great vocal harmonies
Van Halen s Song Remains the Same
Love this one. The Van Halen Formula of Excellence.
It's soooo cool to hear these songs as the band wrote / performed them originally - usually the final recorded version is best after a quality producer lends a constructive ear and some changes to it - but these raw versions are still WAY COOL...thanks for sharing this !!
You're welcome, enjoy
This version of this song is way more powerful tight n ballzy than the album version.
@@TrueFreddyKthis is from the 1977 Warner Bros demos they did with Ted Templeman prior to the debut being recorded. This isn't from 1980.
Just freaking awesome. I'm loving this.
Outstanding. Great tune off the 3rd release! Nice to hear the early makings of this song.
Great song
Im loving all these demos and raw recordings...with out the over dubved guitar. Really shows the strength of the band
They should put these out for real - so cool
Women and children first, best show in 1980
agree. Seen 100s live shows, Women & Children was like no other.
That's my favorite album!!
This is actually one of my all-time favorite VH songs. The harmonies, the mood, the raw arrangement. This is a band, not a laptop.
They had tons of charisma, a.k.a. musical human element!
Roth's voice is killer. So perfect
My Fav VH tune
Amazing to hear this. Made my day.
Probably my favorite Roth era song. So glad this wasn’t the final version. I mean its great, but I’m finding a big lack of energy. Harmonies are amazing tho!
Ed’s solo was surprisingly cool but still not as as good as the LP version.
It’s also amazing how horrible I think it sounds at the end of the chorus when the vocals immediately go into the word Rhyme, instead of the pause that’s in the Final Cut. It makes it a much softer delivery of the word, which I think was really necessary, instead of just blurting out RHYME!!!!
Which to me sounds ridiculous everytime. Lol
totally agree
Absolutely brilliant.. Love this, thanks Freddy, good man.
VH Luv - enjoy
Thank you, Fred!🙏
These rare beauties are so appreciated, Brother!
Anything from Fair Warning? 😉👍
Coming soon…
I wanna tear up now when I hear VH......
Amazing solo! The album version is sweet, but this just has “it”!
I think so too
Awesome photos
Amooooooo essa banda tbm,maravilhosa🎸💯
Freddy Krumins.....who are you and where did you get these amazing tracks?
Al is every bit as his brother on his instrument
I agree, and that's a good way to put it
Dave at his peak vocally.
@powrplaya3266 The source of Ed's unfounded disdain for Mike - he often got all the credit for backing vocals. Many forget or did not know that Alex had to insist Ed stop singing lead. Ed thought he was doing just fine. Anyone who has listened to "How Many Say I" knows Ed is not a good vocalist. But I believe there was something special in the blending of Ed and Mike's voices/harmonies. One of the saddest parts of the VH saga.
Such a great tune!!!
😂
TOTALLY agree! 🙌🏻😊
De chavito como me gustaba esta cancion !! A MIS 57 AÑOS TAMBIEN LA DISFRUTO MCHO !!
Good stuff!! Thank you.
Brilliant!!
Different vocal patterns than the album version. This is really good
Sooooo sick 🤟🤟🤟🤟
Back when Dave actually ADDED VALUE to the Mighty VH. I Loved Listening to this version. Should've made the album.
This version is waaaaay better than the album version.
Great version! Thanks you!!!
Amazing quality Love this song.
One of my faves of the Roth era.
This and Take your Whiskey Home are my faves off WACF, but the entire album is solid.
What i like about Vh is they Rock Hard, yet its always classy and they never took themselves too serious. They were about Rock and roll and having Fun. Like led zeppelin they has Rock Legends at each position and member. Noone talks about how great micheal and Alex
Love this song ❤
I love that in 1977 you could have seen Van Halen for $3.00....!
Stuff like this is so cool to hear. I wonder if Dave finalized the lyrics on the fly in the studio?
This demo is from the 1977 Warner Bros demo sessions. A lot of the songs that appeared on those demos that were later on albums had lyric changes. Beautiful Girls is totally different from the original "Bring On The Girls"
That solo is fucking sick!
I played this song in bands. I don't know which solo I like better
Van Halen dude…
Mikey's voice!
What a 🎸tone
I always thought Michael Anthony looked slightly awkward, like he wasn`t sure what to do with himself. Great player and his backing vocals really made the band`s sound. Eddie and Alex crapped on him in my opinion.
9-8-77...
Like it
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This wasn't from 1980. This was from the 1977 Warner Brothers Demos they recorded before the debut. By the time they recorded it for Women And Children First the lyrics had been altered. They wouldn't be using the previous version of the lyrics by 1980.
......,,,,,,, BEST MUSICAL EVENT OF 2023 ,,,,,,,............ epic A F !
Good tune and remember- never text and drive! Be safe on the roads.
I swear the more i listen to these rare cuts Alex's playing is off the charts, he always lived in Dave's and Eddie's shadow maybe thats why he doesnt seem to get the proper recognition he deserves...im just sayin!
a remarkable drummer for sure~
He's enjoying the 🤑 now though
This version was recorded in 1977.
You don’t like Dave! You love him!! Technically he might not be the best singer ever but if you want to talk about performers.. 2nd to no one
Jeez, I like this version a lot more than the one that made the album.
I prefer the solo in this version.
JIM CROCE!!
Alex
Ed
The mighty van halen
Much Better version!
Better version than original