Anastasia... All the way as superior film, warts and all. Fun Fact: In Russia, The movie was marketed as a fairy tale. It worked and the Russians actually liked the movie.
Yes, Anastasia was very well received in Russia when it was released. The Cold War had just ended a couple of years ago and Russian characters in Western movies up to that point were often stereotyped bad guys or have a specific drunk, violent archetype. For a major American studio to produce an animated musical with lovable, down-to-earth Russian characters was a huge welcome to the Russian audience.
And I believe AniMatt said in another video that Members of the Romanov family who're still alive at the time that this movie was released, approved of the film.
Anastasia is one of the few animated films of the 1990’s that tried to copy Disney’s formula and actually managed to make it work. Because unlike Thumbelina and other films like Quest For Camelot,it takes the Disney elements and add’s its own degree of charm and likability to it instead of just taking the elements and stripping them down to be Diet-Disney instead.
@@zackrules4797 Yes, although Quest for Camelot and The Swan Princess are not as big as Anastasia and The Prince of Egypt, at least they're more tolerable to watch than Thumbelina and, specially, Tom and Jerry. The Movie and A Troll in Central Park.
@@zackrules4797 The problem with Thumbelina is that is that Hans Christian Andersen stories are very hard to work well in Film format. The reason why the Little Mermaid works so well is because the Mermaid is probably the most proactive character that Hans ever wrote.
Thumbelina wasn't even originally released by 20th Century Fox when it first came out. Warner Bros. released it. Then, at some point in the 2000s-2010s, Fox bought the distribution rights from Warner Bros.
@@BrighterThenTheMoon People now will say Thumbelina is Disney now! It still isn't since it wasn't originally made by them. Thumbelina isn't even on the Disney Wiki!
@@josephrowe849 I'm aware of all that. What I'm saying is that Warner Bros. originally owned the distribution rights before Fox bought them and for that matter before Disney bought Fox and that AniMat and "ILoveKimPossibleALot" didn't mention that fact in the video
Anastasia's better, definitely, even if the attempts to be like Disney are so obvious and sometimes glaring, to say nothing of the inaccuracies. The parts that work still hold up, and thankfully the stage version ironed out the flaws prominent. (Although while the cast recording may not feature 'Dark of the Night' proper, it does contain part of the song's melodies in one of its own songs when the main characters are preparing to leave Russia.)
I never thought I see the day when you make a collab with ILoveKimPossibleAlot. This collab was great and I like how you both go in-depth into the history of both of these movies, how they are both considered to be Don Bluth's attempt to cash into Disney's success, and how they heavily differ in terms of execution.
Anastasia: Engaging story (despite being historically inaccurate), a charismatic and three dimensional protagonist, wonderful music, great supporting cast, well developed romance and, even though it follows the Disney formula, it keeps the Don Bluth touch. Thumbelina: Weak and inconsistent story, a more child friendly tone, a bland protagonist being nothing but a worthless crybaby, annoying and useless supporting cast, cheesy songs and poorly developed romance. The only good thing about this movie is the animation and the song Let me be your wings. Definitely, Anastasia is a much superior movie.
@@headofcosmospictures1232 The problem with Thumbelina is that is that Hans Christian Andersen stories are very hard to work well in Film format. The reason why the Little Mermaid works so well is because the Mermaid is probably the most proactive character that Hans ever wrote.
I loved Anastasia as a kid; watched it countless times, and still love it to this day. I also always thought it was a Disney film, so imagine my surprise as a tween when I found out that wasn't true. :0 Thumbelina I only stumbled upon later as a teen, so I didn't like it. It was really boring for me.
I like Anastasia more for the reasons listed in this video. HOWEVER I would *really* like to see what Disney would do with the story of Thumbelina. They made Ariel a far more interesting/proactive character than her HCA counterpart. And say what you will about Frozen vs The Snow Queen, the characters in Frozen and more memorable/well rounded. I feel like they would make Thumbelina a more engaging character and more proactive in her own story.
Anastasia Release Date: November 21, 1997 (USA) Distributor: 20th Century Fox Studio: Fox Animation Studios; Fox Family Films Licensing: 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment (1998-present; Disney 2019-present) Adaptation: 1955 musical play of the same name by Marcelle Maurette and the 1956 film os the same name by Arthur Laurents
Hey, it's nice seeing KP collab with ElectricDragon. I feel like this has been a long time coming. As for whether Thumbelina or Anastasia is better, I've never actually watched the former, but I love Anastasia. It's one of my favorite non-Disney animated movies, along with The Land Before Time. After hearing how bad Thumbelina is, I don't think I'll watch it, either.
I did like The Land Before Time. And yeah, Anastasia is a stronger movie. Also, I thought it was a sort of remake of an old live action film starring Yule Brynner.
darthstarkiller1912 actually Legends of Oz: Dorothy’s Return got a Razzie in 2015 for Worst Supporting Actor for Kelsey Grammer’s performance as the Cowardly Lion.
@@brandonmclendon5368 I LOVE The Hunchback of Notre Dame. However, the one thing that can kill that movie is the gargoyles. They are incredibly out of place and because they barely interact with the environment that they are in, they can easily be written out of the movie. They only serve as comic relief and their brand of comedy is often jarring. Like, in the last third of the movie, we see Paris in flames as Kyrie Eleison is sung by an ominous choir, then a few seconds later, we get a comedic song about getting the girl.
I remember loving Thumbelina as a kid, watching it whenever I was at my grandparents. Though over the years, my perspective of animated films have gotten much better, and Thumbelina doesn't look all that appealing anymore. It does have string animation and a good use of colors, but it doesn't hide the cutesy tone and plot-holes. But out of all the Bluth films during the 90s, Anastasia is his stongest. A film that looks as though something Disney "could" have done, but Bluth made that film work. When I learned about the real events of Anastasia in school, it did make me think about the movie and it's significance in today's pop culture; more specifically, in the animation community and those who truly love the film. For what it is, it's one of the finest examples of Don Bluth's works If Titan A.E.'S failure didn't persuade him to quit directing, we could have gotten more films from Bluth. Also, nice touch with the Kingdom Hearts music 😁👌
I rather say anastasia. I'm huge fan Anastasia love this childhood movie wish need bring back franchises to popular all of time. If Anastasia join this disney princess stories be will cool crossover. But sadly Thumbelina their don't deserve it box of office flop.
I would say that Anastasia and The Prince of Egypt were the only non-Disney animated musicals of the 90s that actually worked. As we saw with Rock-a-Doodle, Rover Dangerfield, Once Upon a Forest, We're Back! A Dinosaur Story, A Troll in Central Park, Thumbelina, The Pebble and the Penguin, Pippi Longstocking, Quest for Camelot, and The King and it didn't work. FernGully-The Last Rainforest, The Swan Princess, Cats Don't Dance kinda did okay with doing a musical formula but not as well as Anastasia and The Prince of Egypt.
Thumbelina is a classic and I hate when people bash it and don't understand the story. First off, it's VERY accurate to the original Hans Christian Andersen fairytale and I applaud it for doing it well while being it's own thing. And I think it has a very well done acceptance of who you are as a message since Thumbelina is constantly being told who to be and how beautiful she is or isn't and she stands up for herself and tells the toad, the mole, the mouse, and the beetle off in the end and she gets rewarded with a prince for it. It's a cutesy movie with Prince Cornelius being less of the focus than Thumbelina growing up and not taking crap from anyone who tells her she's weak or ugly or they feel entitled to her. I think so many people miss out on that message. Also the songs are still really good, Marry the Mole is so goofy that I can't help but love it and Yer Beautiful Baby is fun too and Let me Be Your Wings is a lovely duet. Julie Benson gets to sing a lot more as Thumbelina than she did as Ariel, so that's a point in the movie's favor in my personal opinion. And Anastasia is one of my favorite animated movies of all time because the romance is so fun and I love the songs and characters. It's one of the most beautiful animated movies still. I know it's not accurate to history but I really enjoy it.
That all being said, I do prefer Anastasia as a movie and I'd probably say I love it a bit more than Thumbelina; it's one that I watch more because I like it's more serious tone and the way Anya is a feisty princess and Dimitri is a really exciting leading man more. But I do genuinely still love Thumbelina too.
I'm kinda in the same boat as you guys: I watched Thumbelina a lot as a kid, but now that I'm older, her whining "It's impossible," all the time started to get annoying. Let Me Be Your Wings is still my guilty pleasure though. XD
I use to watch Thumbelina a lot too, and I do agree, seeing it as an adult, I question why I loved that film in the first place. I think it may be because of the songs, which I would sing from time to time, and the animation was fantastic. Just the movements and the colours, it was just so magical, even if it was a Disney-Knock-off. But I loved Anastasia the most, had been since I was little, still do today. I even used the song that played at the start of the end credits “At the Beginning” as my graduation song. I’ll always remember that moment, when I was asked to collect my awards and certificates as the song plays with a slideshow of me during my time at secondary school. Secondary school may not have been the best for me for a number of reasons, but there are things that will always make me look back at the times I had there like the friends I made or the shows, music, anime, and video games I experience during that time, and “At the Beginning” was the song that signifies that my long, painful, but fun, and happy school days may be over, but the best days of my life is yet to come.
Thumbelina is like the caricature of Disney. Everything Disney's harshest critics say about their movies is true about this one - the cuteness is overdone to the point of being sickening, the musical numbers feel overly peppy and fake, and any lessons they try to throw in are preachy and even faker.
Agree. Even in "Thumbelina" it's lead character is a literal Disney Princess caricature rather than an actual character, since Thumbelina herself basically represents all the stereotypes that is basically associated with the Disney Princesses but without any of stuff that make the Disney Princesses great characters in the first place. Even Giselle from "Enchanted", who is an intentional Disney Princess caricature, is a far more developed character than Thumbelina, and that's saying something.
They did have a toy Bartok backstage when the original Broadway run was still going. Edited to add- It's super weird watching things that fox distributed pre-merger...
Anastasia has always been my favorite between these two! I feel the art style and character designs are more complete. And I love Russian stuff, especially the sad/romantic story of the real Romanov family. This movie made all these features come together in such a wonderfully entertaining way! And Rasputin and Bartok are so much fun to quote! XD "Oh sure! Blame the bat! What the heck? We're easy targets."
When Thumbellina is with Mrs. Mouse singing the Razzie winning song Marry the Mole, the biggest contrast between Bluth's style and the lite-Disney that the movie was going for is at its most obvious. Thumbellina looks rotoscoped, but Mrs. Mouse looks like a Cinderella mouse, it's just that jarring.
I honest to God don't get why Thumbelina gets as much scorn as it does - it's not of Bluth's strongest works, but the way people talk about it, you'd think it was on the same category as A Troll in Central Park. Though Anastasia blows it out of the water - I mean, there's no contest there.
@@josephrowe849 The problem with Thumbelina is that is that Hans Christian Andersen stories are very hard to work well in Film format. The reason why the Little Mermaid works so well is because the Mermaid is probably the most proactive character that Hans ever wrote.
As for Thumbelina, this is the one film that I can both see people either liking or disliking. Honestly no offense, but I was bored with this movie even when I first saw it when I was 8.
@@swanpride Definitely sounds like Bella Swan. And the prince is a Peeping Tom! He kept trying to get too close to her. It wasn't b/c he was shy or afraid she'd turn him down, he was a creep! I'll give the pri ce credit, at least he didn't make a habit of sneaking into her room 2 months prior to meeting her.
Thumbelina Release Date: March 30, 1994 (USA) Distributor: Warner Bros. Family Entertainment (Warner Bros. Pictures) Studio: Don Bluth Ireland, Ltd. Licensing: Warner Home Video (1994-1999); 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment (2002-present; Disney 2019-present) Adaptation: 1835 fairy-tale book of the same name by Hans Christian Andersen Featured short: "I'm Mad" (Animaniacs)
I believed when Don went to work with Fox they bought the rights to some of his movies like Thumbelina and Pebble and the Penguin and Disney just inherited those rights from Fox after the buyout.
Man, I remembered being hyped when Thumbelina was in theaters. Not because of the movie. But because the Animaniacs short "I Mad" was playing with it. I heard that song way before the movie came out because I got the first Animaniacs album beforehand.
Even if critics don't like Don Bluth's Thumbelina I love both Thumbelina and Anastasia Don Bluth's movies together they're still great animation equally in my taste.
As a little kid in the late 90s, I remember watching "Thumbelina" at my Aunt Donna's house (God rest her). I remember liking the chemistry between Thumbelina and Cornelius, but as I grew older I guess the "cutesiness" of the movie started to turn me off like "Rock-a-Doodle" and "A Troll in Central Park". I began to like Bluth's films from the 80s more which are more mature like "The Secret of NIMH" and "All Dogs Go to Heaven". While I like the song "Let Me Be Your Wings", "Thumbelina" isn't as good as I remember it being as a kid. As for "Anastasia", I honestly hadn't seen the film until a few years ago while I was in college, and I gotta say, I thought it was great. The cast is much more likable (especially Anya and Dimitri), the songs are very memorable (especially the Oscar-nominated "Journey to the Past"), and the animation is amazing. Plus, it has more three-dimensional characters compared to Bluth's other films at the time as well as more heart. Along with that, the film tries to avoid the overused "cuteness" that was in "Thumbelina" and "A Troll in Central Park". So in conclusion, "Anastasia", despite being as historically inaccurate as Disney's "Pocahontas", is better than "Thumbelina". It has better characters, better songs, and a better story.
You forgot to mention that despite Don Bluth got his glory back with Anastasia, but his next film: Titan A.E. bombed massively at the box office, which caused him to sell his idea of Ice Age to Blue Sky and retire from the animation industries forever. Although he made a campaign for his Dragon's Lair movie, but it didn't have any progress.
It's awesome having you onboard KP! As for me, I vastly prefer "Anastasia." It's nowhere near one of my favorite animated films, but it at least got the job done with its characters, soundtrack, and animation. Even Rasputin was somewhat entertaining, despite being out of place for the story. I could go without Bartok though. "Thumbelina" felt scatterbrained with its story and most of the characters were uninteresting. That harlequin bird has to be one of my least favorite sidekicks in a movie of this caliber, especially since he could've so easily given Thumbelina a ride back home, but didn't because... plot. The only things I liked about this movie were one or two songs, the animation, and Gilbert Gottfried as the beetle. BTW I first watched both of these films when I was in college, so I was already a bit more critical.
I just discovered this channel so I'm late to the party, but Anastasia is the better film by far. I've noticed that in general, Bluth's movies aren't that great when it comes to memorable heroines. Maybe that shouldn't be surprising since most of his protagonists are male, but Thumbelina is supposed to be the lead character in the movie that bears her name -- yet she remains a passive damsel throughout. I still remember the review that stated she "makes Snow White and Sleeping Beauty look like Thelma and Louise." Anastasia, however, IS the heroine of her own story and does have agency, which is why this film and "The Secret of NIMH" (the other Bluth film with a memorable female lead) are my favorites among his works.
The other day I was changing channels on my TV out of boredom and I randomly found Disney Channel airing Anastasia which at least in my country they don't normally do
I love both these movies,it's so funny how Don left disney cause he didn't agree with them at the time only for his movies, one of the ones considered his best(Anastasia)to end up with disney anyway.
Great collab! Never seen Thumbelina, but I’ve recently rewatched Anastasia. My best recommendation for that is...buy the soundtrack, it’s awesome! The rest needs a lot of work.
Thumbelina's on disney plus. Because disney and fox made a deal to have their films combined. Even though Thumbelina wasn't exactly made by fox animation studios, (it was actually made by Warner Bros.) But it's considered a fox film.
Thumbelina is not a rip off, stop acting like Disney owns the only rights to make fairytales. Fairytales are in public domain and Disney never made a Thumbelina movie.
So..now with Disney owning "Anastasia", who else wants a crossover with "Princess and the Frog"? They are set within the same time period and Dr. Facilier and Rasputin are pretty similar.
Out of all the youtubers you've collaberated with, I wouldn't have imagined you partnering with someone who has previously been making tons of MLP content. Fun video by the way.
Just talking about Kelsey Grammer and David Hyde Pierce...I'm sorry, but I don't actually thing of Frasier. I think of that one episode from The Simpsons that ripped it off from Season Eight (let's just pretend Funeral For A Fiend didn't exist and just talk Brother From Another Series). Sorry, I had it on DVD from 2006 and I think I once saw a rerun of it on TV cause I remember thinking "Oh, that villain who hates Bart is actually trying to be good".
Anastasia wins all the way 🙌🙌 Anastasia has got to be my #1 favourite Don Bluth movie of all time, while Thumbelina on the other hand is one of the worst Don Bluth films I've ever seen.
I'm going to say it....I love Rock a doodle. Most people don't like it but it was my favorite as a kid and I still like it in my 30's. Chanticlare is my favorite character even though he's a Elvis chicken 🐔 I enjoy the songs.
I actually like Anastasia better, since it should've disserved it's place as part of the Walt Disney animation line up back then, along with the Land Before Time, an American Tail, We're Back a Dinosaur's story, Quest For Camelot, and even the Iron Giant. That would've agreed for Don Bluth's Anastaisa. Heck even I think some TV shows should join the Disney Family too, like My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, Thomas the Tank Engine, the Magic School Bus, and even the most common preschool show and my favorite, Dragon Tales.
Do you want that bloated corporation to continue monopolizing the entire entertainment industry? They've produced some good stuff, but acquired far more in recent years, and that enables them to stash loads of stuff away that otherwise wouldn't be. An American Tail, The Land Before Time and All Dogs Go To Heaven is the whole reason movies like Who Framed Roger Rabbit, The Little Mermaid and Mouse Detective even exist, or the entire slew of movies these gave way for. If they continue to do what they did with Fox, there will be less and less of that to keep them in line.
Thumbellina DID have one saving grace. When it premiered theatrically, it was accompanied by an Animaniacs short. Though, frankly, I wonder how many kids, like me, were suckered into having to beg their parents to take them to such a lousy movie just to see Yakko, Wakko, and Dot bigger and louder. There's 5 minutes of greatness followed by 80 minutes of substandard storytelling and awful songs covered up by a wasted effort of too good for the source material animation. And, like the "I'm Mad" short was only a few months away from being on the actual show. It wasn't on the video release, but on the plus side, you just had to buy an Animaniacs Sing-a-Long VHS instead of having a crap movie you'd never actually watch beyond the short.
While I don't really have fond memories of either film, I'd definitely say Anastasia, mostly cause of it's memorable soundtrack and entertaining villain (even if he doesn't fit the rest of the film)
Never saw Thumbelina but I did see Swan Princess. I loved Anastasia and while being historically inaccurate, it was all for the better to tell a story of a lost princess trying to find out about her past while avoiding a curse that claimed her family. Though when Anastasia found her Grandmother, the movie did stop its momentum until the final Rasputin battle scene. Bluth's Disney heritage shines through with Anastasia and I noticed that since I was a big fan of Disney Animation films back in the 90s. Also knew about Bluths films like American Tail and the Land before Time movies and knew that Bluth only worked on the first films and not the sequels. Rasputin was the best part of the film and I loved the dark of the night
Some of Don Bluths films also have TV shows for some reason like we have a Land Before Time TV series (I guess they thought we wanted MOAR Land Before Time) and a An American Tale TV series based on Fieval Goes West
No question about it Anastasia is 100 times better! Don Best work was Anastasia. It was great storytelling fit the Disney formula but also had great story development and character development all around the board. The Whole the story is in historically inaccurate. However it never was intended to be written to be historically accurate. It was always intended to be a fictional adaptation. Newsflash people if you want an actual real story of the Romanov watch the history channel. The fictional story of Anastasia was always supposed to be a fictional story. Even though the real Anastasia body wasn’t found yet back in 1997 it was almost pretty obvious that she was probably not alive anymore. No one wrote this with the intent of this being realistic and legitimately possible. Because again it’s a fictional story line of something that really happened an adaptation a what if if you will where she gets to live and get a happy ending. It was a well thought out story and still to this day holds up very well. Despite the real story not getting a happy ending that doesn’t mean we can’t have a fictional story of it getting a happy ending.
I like both, but honestly I like Thumbelina ALOT more since I grew up with it more, Thumbelina and Cornelius are so adorable together and are one of my favorite Bluth couples along with Dirk and Daphne as well. :) (I don't know if it's more of a girl thing, since I'm one of those types of girls who loves cute movies like this, even if I'm older now, I've always loved the animation, the songs and everything. :) Sure the plot is cheesy but I love the characters, ESPECIALLY Thumbelina who's my favorite, I actually just watched a few scenes of Berkley Beetle in memory of Gilbert Gottfried in it again years later, and OMG, I find him absolutely HILARIOUS as Berkley now that I'm alot older and didn't really understand him as a kid, most people would be weirded out by him flirting with Thumbelina, but he became one of my favorite characters in the film next to her and Cornelius, he's so funny as him though! (And yes, is it weird I actually kinda ship him and Thumbelina, (of course, after her and Cornelius),. XD The running gag of him going "HIYA TOOTS!" =D to Thumbelina, just the way he says it and everything for no reason whenever he just shows up in a scene out of complete nowhere is just so funny to me, I DIE laughing everytime he's on screen saying it now! XD Gilbert as Berkley then: "HIYA TOOTS!" =D *Me watching as a kid: pure confusion being a stupid dumb kid not understanding ANYTHING happening on screen* Gilbert as Berkley now that I'm older watching the movie years later: "HIYA TOOTS!" =D *Me now: *WEEZE* (Also, R.I.P. Gilbert...) All the others though weirded me out with her, (The Toad and Mr. Mole, ). but I still enjoy it and the songs ESPECIALLY. :)
There's a film that I can't remember, where a girl becomes minion and discovers a world of tiny fairies in the forest and they have to fight against the men that want to destroy the forest. Does anyone know it? It's a bit similar to Thumbelina
MrJohnffrey87 because Fox actually let Bluth be himself with the movie, and let him return to his usually dark formulas, unlike Warner Bros, which was forcing Don to be cutesy to appeal to the young audience that it was to the point that it felt like he was talking down to the audience, which are big reasons why Rock-a-Doodle, Thumbelina, A Troll in Central Park, and The Pebble and the Penguin bombed.
Anastasia was the one I saw more often both growing up and now. I saw Thumbelina twice in my life. Anastasia I saw in theaters...and in school...and eventually my family got a VHS copy. The songs are catchier. The villain more of a threat and enjoyable. The supporting cast and love interest more developed. Plus Bartok makes the movie.
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It's a small thing but thank you for saying the church's full name. ❤️ Also Anastasia is one of my favorite Don Bluth films. I didn't see Thumbelina until I was much older and didn't really care for it.
Should Thumbelina and Anastasia become honorary Disney Princesses? Ironically that these two movies were considered Disney knock-offs, but now after Disney bought Fox, ironically both of them and a few others are kinda now unofficial family members of Disney now. Weird since in Mexico (or I am not the only one?)Thumbelina was distributed by Warner Bros. I still have a soft spot for Thumbelina however I agree that Anastasia is the better movie.
You...........collaborated with KP!?!...............THAT IS JUST AWESOME!!!!:D And you guys talking about one of my favorite animated role models just makes this even more amazing. Also to answer your question, Anastasia. Definitely Anastasia! That is far more superior in my opinion. Thumbelina in my opinion went way too far with trying to be a Disney film.
Don Bluth: I'm going to make my own animated movies to compete with Disney, so they can be seen as a completely separate entity. Fox seems like a good place to distribute them. Disney: (buys Fox) Don Bluth: th-cam.com/video/YcAHHKY3Y0I/w-d-xo.html
I think on to animation and the film itself. I grew to love Anastasia more when it came out in the 90s. I watched the VHS tape of it like crazy and had a lot of the march. I kind of keep it as my fave non Disney film and Don Bluth film in general (and I guess now she's a Disney princess XD ) And thumblina keep close second for another fave non Disney movie. could say its a fun and cute movie. Has some good songs and animation itself was beautiful at the time.
Anastasia... All the way as superior film, warts and all.
Fun Fact: In Russia, The movie was marketed as a fairy tale. It worked and the Russians actually liked the movie.
oh really
@@MrGabeanator It's what I have read. But don't take my word for granted.
Yes, Anastasia was very well received in Russia when it was released. The Cold War had just ended a couple of years ago and Russian characters in Western movies up to that point were often stereotyped bad guys or have a specific drunk, violent archetype. For a major American studio to produce an animated musical with lovable, down-to-earth Russian characters was a huge welcome to the Russian audience.
Unlike Pocahontas, which got some flak in America.
And I believe AniMatt said in another video that Members of the Romanov family who're still alive at the time that this movie was released, approved of the film.
Anastasia is one of the few animated films of the 1990’s that tried to copy Disney’s formula and actually managed to make it work. Because unlike Thumbelina and other films like Quest For Camelot,it takes the Disney elements and add’s its own degree of charm and likability to it instead of just taking the elements and stripping them down to be Diet-Disney instead.
Another animated movie that used very well the Disney elements was The Prince of Egypt. It's a masterpiece in every way
The already mentioned swan princess is also good
At least The Swan Princess, Anastasia and Quest for Camelot weren't so childish or juvenile as Thumbelina though.
@@zackrules4797 Yes, although Quest for Camelot and The Swan Princess are not as big as Anastasia and The Prince of Egypt, at least they're more tolerable to watch than Thumbelina and, specially, Tom and Jerry. The Movie and A Troll in Central Park.
@@zackrules4797 The problem with Thumbelina is that is that Hans Christian Andersen stories are very hard to work well in Film format. The reason why the Little Mermaid works so well is because the Mermaid is probably the most proactive character that Hans ever wrote.
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Thumbelina is on disney +
Thumbelina wasn't even originally released by 20th Century Fox when it first came out. Warner Bros. released it. Then, at some point in the 2000s-2010s, Fox bought the distribution rights from Warner Bros.
@@BrighterThenTheMoon People now will say Thumbelina is Disney now! It still isn't since it wasn't originally made by them. Thumbelina isn't even on the Disney Wiki!
@@josephrowe849 I'm aware of all that. What I'm saying is that Warner Bros. originally owned the distribution rights before Fox bought them and for that matter before Disney bought Fox and that AniMat and "ILoveKimPossibleALot" didn't mention that fact in the video
KP AND ANTIMAT!? A video together!? AWESOME
they should do more collabs together :)
Anastasia's better, definitely, even if the attempts to be like Disney are so obvious and sometimes glaring, to say nothing of the inaccuracies. The parts that work still hold up, and thankfully the stage version ironed out the flaws prominent. (Although while the cast recording may not feature 'Dark of the Night' proper, it does contain part of the song's melodies in one of its own songs when the main characters are preparing to leave Russia.)
I loved these films and not gonna lie, I had a crush on these characters as a kid 🥰
These films always felt like Disney with a darker color palette
Anastasia masterpiece to movie most forgotten.
I never thought I see the day when you make a collab with ILoveKimPossibleAlot. This collab was great and I like how you both go in-depth into the history of both of these movies, how they are both considered to be Don Bluth's attempt to cash into Disney's success, and how they heavily differ in terms of execution.
Anastasia: Engaging story (despite being historically inaccurate), a charismatic and three dimensional protagonist, wonderful music, great supporting cast, well developed romance and, even though it follows the Disney formula, it keeps the Don Bluth touch.
Thumbelina: Weak and inconsistent story, a more child friendly tone, a bland protagonist being nothing but a worthless crybaby, annoying and useless supporting cast, cheesy songs and poorly developed romance. The only good thing about this movie is the animation and the song Let me be your wings.
Definitely, Anastasia is a much superior movie.
I agree that Anastasia is the superior movie but listing all the good points of one movie and all the bad of the other is a rather unfair comparasion
@@headofcosmospictures1232 The problem with Thumbelina is that is that Hans Christian Andersen stories are very hard to work well in Film format. The reason why the Little Mermaid works so well is because the Mermaid is probably the most proactive character that Hans ever wrote.
Anastasia is better in every way. Better characters, better story, better songs, everything!
I loved Anastasia as a kid; watched it countless times, and still love it to this day. I also always thought it was a Disney film, so imagine my surprise as a tween when I found out that wasn't true. :0
Thumbelina I only stumbled upon later as a teen, so I didn't like it. It was really boring for me.
HBO currently has the streaming rights for Anastasia. Whenever those expire, I wouldn't doubt it would end up on Disney+
Oh I was wondering why it wasn’t on plus yet, thanks.
Hi I from the future, Anastasia’s on Disney Plus now.
I like Anastasia more for the reasons listed in this video. HOWEVER I would *really* like to see what Disney would do with the story of Thumbelina. They made Ariel a far more interesting/proactive character than her HCA counterpart. And say what you will about Frozen vs The Snow Queen, the characters in Frozen and more memorable/well rounded. I feel like they would make Thumbelina a more engaging character and more proactive in her own story.
Not all female protagonists have to be proactive or spunky. Don Bluth’s Thumbelina is more pro feminism than you think.
@@RedaDoodles The problem with Thumbelina is that Hans Christian characters are usually not interesting. The Little Mermaid is the exception.
Anastasia
Release Date: November 21, 1997 (USA)
Distributor: 20th Century Fox
Studio: Fox Animation Studios; Fox Family Films
Licensing: 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment (1998-present; Disney 2019-present)
Adaptation: 1955 musical play of the same name by Marcelle Maurette and the 1956 film os the same name by Arthur Laurents
Hey, it's nice seeing KP collab with ElectricDragon. I feel like this has been a long time coming.
As for whether Thumbelina or Anastasia is better, I've never actually watched the former, but I love Anastasia. It's one of my favorite non-Disney animated movies, along with The Land Before Time. After hearing how bad Thumbelina is, I don't think I'll watch it, either.
I did like The Land Before Time. And yeah, Anastasia is a stronger movie. Also, I thought it was a sort of remake of an old live action film starring Yule Brynner.
Katherine Alvarez Yul Brynner was the one and only good thing about the "original"❤
@@CrystalGoddess90 Really????????
And yet the song Mary the Mole sang still has a Razzle Award, Remember that?
And it was the only animated film with a Razzie until "The Emoji Movie" took so many including worst film.
darthstarkiller1912 actually Legends of Oz: Dorothy’s Return got a Razzie in 2015 for Worst Supporting Actor for Kelsey Grammer’s performance as the Cowardly Lion.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame got nominated for a Razzie
Joseph Legrand I know, but really? Why did it get nominated for worst screenplay to gross over $100 million? The script was great
@@brandonmclendon5368 I LOVE The Hunchback of Notre Dame. However, the one thing that can kill that movie is the gargoyles. They are incredibly out of place and because they barely interact with the environment that they are in, they can easily be written out of the movie. They only serve as comic relief and their brand of comedy is often jarring. Like, in the last third of the movie, we see Paris in flames as Kyrie Eleison is sung by an ominous choir, then a few seconds later, we get a comedic song about getting the girl.
I remember loving Thumbelina as a kid, watching it whenever I was at my grandparents. Though over the years, my perspective of animated films have gotten much better, and Thumbelina doesn't look all that appealing anymore. It does have string animation and a good use of colors, but it doesn't hide the cutesy tone and plot-holes.
But out of all the Bluth films during the 90s, Anastasia is his stongest. A film that looks as though something Disney "could" have done, but Bluth made that film work. When I learned about the real events of Anastasia in school, it did make me think about the movie and it's significance in today's pop culture; more specifically, in the animation community and those who truly love the film. For what it is, it's one of the finest examples of Don Bluth's works
If Titan A.E.'S failure didn't persuade him to quit directing, we could have gotten more films from Bluth.
Also, nice touch with the Kingdom Hearts music 😁👌
Interesting fact, Miller is actually Walt's son-in-law
I rather say anastasia. I'm huge fan Anastasia love this childhood movie wish need bring back franchises to popular all of time. If Anastasia join this disney princess stories be will cool crossover. But sadly Thumbelina their don't deserve it box of office flop.
I would say that Anastasia and The Prince of Egypt were the only non-Disney animated musicals of the 90s that actually worked. As we saw with Rock-a-Doodle, Rover Dangerfield, Once Upon a Forest, We're Back! A Dinosaur Story, A Troll in Central Park, Thumbelina, The Pebble and the Penguin, Pippi Longstocking, Quest for Camelot, and The King and it didn't work. FernGully-The Last Rainforest, The Swan Princess, Cats Don't Dance kinda did okay with doing a musical formula but not as well as Anastasia and The Prince of Egypt.
Thumbelina is a classic and I hate when people bash it and don't understand the story. First off, it's VERY accurate to the original Hans Christian Andersen fairytale and I applaud it for doing it well while being it's own thing. And I think it has a very well done acceptance of who you are as a message since Thumbelina is constantly being told who to be and how beautiful she is or isn't and she stands up for herself and tells the toad, the mole, the mouse, and the beetle off in the end and she gets rewarded with a prince for it. It's a cutesy movie with Prince Cornelius being less of the focus than Thumbelina growing up and not taking crap from anyone who tells her she's weak or ugly or they feel entitled to her. I think so many people miss out on that message. Also the songs are still really good, Marry the Mole is so goofy that I can't help but love it and Yer Beautiful Baby is fun too and Let me Be Your Wings is a lovely duet. Julie Benson gets to sing a lot more as Thumbelina than she did as Ariel, so that's a point in the movie's favor in my personal opinion.
And Anastasia is one of my favorite animated movies of all time because the romance is so fun and I love the songs and characters. It's one of the most beautiful animated movies still. I know it's not accurate to history but I really enjoy it.
That all being said, I do prefer Anastasia as a movie and I'd probably say I love it a bit more than Thumbelina; it's one that I watch more because I like it's more serious tone and the way Anya is a feisty princess and Dimitri is a really exciting leading man more. But I do genuinely still love Thumbelina too.
I love both your channels and it was such a nice surprise to see you colab!! Great video :)
I'm kinda in the same boat as you guys: I watched Thumbelina a lot as a kid, but now that I'm older, her whining "It's impossible," all the time started to get annoying. Let Me Be Your Wings is still my guilty pleasure though. XD
I use to watch Thumbelina a lot too, and I do agree, seeing it as an adult, I question why I loved that film in the first place. I think it may be because of the songs, which I would sing from time to time, and the animation was fantastic. Just the movements and the colours, it was just so magical, even if it was a Disney-Knock-off.
But I loved Anastasia the most, had been since I was little, still do today. I even used the song that played at the start of the end credits “At the Beginning” as my graduation song. I’ll always remember that moment, when I was asked to collect my awards and certificates as the song plays with a slideshow of me during my time at secondary school. Secondary school may not have been the best for me for a number of reasons, but there are things that will always make me look back at the times I had there like the friends I made or the shows, music, anime, and video games I experience during that time, and “At the Beginning” was the song that signifies that my long, painful, but fun, and happy school days may be over, but the best days of my life is yet to come.
The first animat collaboration since forever? AwesomeSauce! :D
Unless you count all the collab partnesmrs mat had during his podcasts
Or that time he collaborated with Joey T. On the cartoon palooza for his smurfs film review.
2:27 *ROFL it’s just impossible😂😂😂😂😂*
Thumbelina is like the caricature of Disney. Everything Disney's harshest critics say about their movies is true about this one - the cuteness is overdone to the point of being sickening, the musical numbers feel overly peppy and fake, and any lessons they try to throw in are preachy and even faker.
Agree. Even in "Thumbelina" it's lead character is a literal Disney Princess caricature rather than an actual character, since Thumbelina herself basically represents all the stereotypes that is basically associated with the Disney Princesses but without any of stuff that make the Disney Princesses great characters in the first place.
Even Giselle from "Enchanted", who is an intentional Disney Princess caricature, is a far more developed character than Thumbelina, and that's saying something.
They did have a toy Bartok backstage when the original Broadway run was still going.
Edited to add- It's super weird watching things that fox distributed pre-merger...
Funny that you compare Thumbelina to Little Mermaid, considering they share the same voice actress, Jodi Benson :).
Anastasia has always been my favorite between these two! I feel the art style and character designs are more complete. And I love Russian stuff, especially the sad/romantic story of the real Romanov family. This movie made all these features come together in such a wonderfully entertaining way! And Rasputin and Bartok are so much fun to quote! XD "Oh sure! Blame the bat! What the heck? We're easy targets."
When Thumbellina is with Mrs. Mouse singing the Razzie winning song Marry the Mole, the biggest contrast between Bluth's style and the lite-Disney that the movie was going for is at its most obvious.
Thumbellina looks rotoscoped, but Mrs. Mouse looks like a Cinderella mouse, it's just that jarring.
I think probably her and Cornelius actually were, as they seem realistic at times, while the others were more Disney like. XD
I honest to God don't get why Thumbelina gets as much scorn as it does - it's not of Bluth's strongest works, but the way people talk about it, you'd think it was on the same category as A Troll in Central Park. Though Anastasia blows it out of the water - I mean, there's no contest there.
There are movies today that are way worse than Thumbelina.
@@josephrowe849 The problem with Thumbelina is that is that Hans Christian Andersen stories are very hard to work well in Film format. The reason why the Little Mermaid works so well is because the Mermaid is probably the most proactive character that Hans ever wrote.
As for Thumbelina, this is the one film that I can both see people either liking or disliking.
Honestly no offense, but I was bored with this movie even when I first saw it when I was 8.
David Anthony Mercado I actually watched this around 6th grade and I found it boring.
Thumbelina, to me, is everything I heard bad about Twilight, specifically Thumbelina Swan, I mean...JUST Thumbelina🤣🤣🤣
I mostly dislike the main character...she has ZERO agency. The whole movie she is just pushed around by everyone.
@@swanpride Definitely sounds like Bella Swan. And the prince is a Peeping Tom! He kept trying to get too close to her. It wasn't b/c he was shy or afraid she'd turn him down, he was a creep! I'll give the pri ce credit, at least he didn't make a habit of sneaking into her room 2 months prior to meeting her.
@@swanpride Obviously, you haven’t done any research on why Andersen wrote that story to begin with.
Thumbelina
Release Date: March 30, 1994 (USA)
Distributor: Warner Bros. Family Entertainment (Warner Bros. Pictures)
Studio: Don Bluth Ireland, Ltd.
Licensing: Warner Home Video (1994-1999); 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment (2002-present; Disney 2019-present)
Adaptation: 1835 fairy-tale book of the same name by Hans Christian Andersen
Featured short: "I'm Mad" (Animaniacs)
Animat, your Bartok voice is pretty good.
Actually Thumbelina was not part of 20th Century Fox because I looked at the VHS it was part of Wonder Brothers
Jacob Atkins it’s Warner brothers but 20th century fox re released the vhs of thumbelina later on
@@georgerobertson7010 oh well that makes sense
I believed when Don went to work with Fox they bought the rights to some of his movies like Thumbelina and Pebble and the Penguin and Disney just inherited those rights from Fox after the buyout.
Man, I remembered being hyped when Thumbelina was in theaters. Not because of the movie. But because the Animaniacs short "I Mad" was playing with it. I heard that song way before the movie came out because I got the first Animaniacs album beforehand.
I love that you guys used Kingdom Hearts music in the background and I love Anastasia
ILKP: At least Gilbert Gottfried is entertaining.
Beetle: *uses Burger King's famous tageline.*
Joseph Rowe have it your way?
@@jackiegonzalez6814 Yep! That's right.
FINALLY a Gilbert fan!
I absolutely love him as that beetle! XD
Gilbert: “HIYA TOOTS!” =D
Me: *WEEZE*
Even if critics don't like Don Bluth's Thumbelina I love both Thumbelina and Anastasia
Don Bluth's movies together they're still great animation equally in my taste.
Since Disney owns Fox that makes Thumbelina and Anastasia Disney Princesses! Can't wait for the Oscars tomorrow!
As a little kid in the late 90s, I remember watching "Thumbelina" at my Aunt Donna's house (God rest her). I remember liking the chemistry between Thumbelina and Cornelius, but as I grew older I guess the "cutesiness" of the movie started to turn me off like "Rock-a-Doodle" and "A Troll in Central Park". I began to like Bluth's films from the 80s more which are more mature like "The Secret of NIMH" and "All Dogs Go to Heaven". While I like the song "Let Me Be Your Wings", "Thumbelina" isn't as good as I remember it being as a kid.
As for "Anastasia", I honestly hadn't seen the film until a few years ago while I was in college, and I gotta say, I thought it was great. The cast is much more likable (especially Anya and Dimitri), the songs are very memorable (especially the Oscar-nominated "Journey to the Past"), and the animation is amazing. Plus, it has more three-dimensional characters compared to Bluth's other films at the time as well as more heart. Along with that, the film tries to avoid the overused "cuteness" that was in "Thumbelina" and "A Troll in Central Park".
So in conclusion, "Anastasia", despite being as historically inaccurate as Disney's "Pocahontas", is better than "Thumbelina". It has better characters, better songs, and a better story.
You forgot to mention that despite Don Bluth got his glory back with Anastasia, but his next film: Titan A.E. bombed massively at the box office, which caused him to sell his idea of Ice Age to Blue Sky and retire from the animation industries forever. Although he made a campaign for his Dragon's Lair movie, but it didn't have any progress.
It's awesome having you onboard KP!
As for me, I vastly prefer "Anastasia." It's nowhere near one of my favorite animated films, but it at least got the job done with its characters, soundtrack, and animation. Even Rasputin was somewhat entertaining, despite being out of place for the story. I could go without Bartok though.
"Thumbelina" felt scatterbrained with its story and most of the characters were uninteresting. That harlequin bird has to be one of my least favorite sidekicks in a movie of this caliber, especially since he could've so easily given Thumbelina a ride back home, but didn't because... plot. The only things I liked about this movie were one or two songs, the animation, and Gilbert Gottfried as the beetle.
BTW I first watched both of these films when I was in college, so I was already a bit more critical.
I just discovered this channel so I'm late to the party, but Anastasia is the better film by far.
I've noticed that in general, Bluth's movies aren't that great when it comes to memorable heroines. Maybe that shouldn't be surprising since most of his protagonists are male, but Thumbelina is supposed to be the lead character in the movie that bears her name -- yet she remains a passive damsel throughout. I still remember the review that stated she "makes Snow White and Sleeping Beauty look like Thelma and Louise."
Anastasia, however, IS the heroine of her own story and does have agency, which is why this film and "The Secret of NIMH" (the other Bluth film with a memorable female lead) are my favorites among his works.
Gilbert Godfrey you will be missed💐❤️
That Bartok impression was on point.
Wait a minute! A collab video between Animat and KP?! Awesome! And with some interesting movies too!
Excuse me, but Jacquimo is not a pelican, he's a swallow.
I appreciate your thoughts and the Kingdom Hearts background music. Multiple levels of nostalgia achieved.
The only two Don Bluth animated film I loved of my childhood is "The Secret Of NIMH" and "Anastasia".
The other day I was changing channels on my TV out of boredom and I randomly found Disney Channel airing Anastasia which at least in my country they don't normally do
I love both these movies,it's so funny how Don left disney cause he didn't agree with them at the time only for his movies, one of the ones considered his best(Anastasia)to end up with disney anyway.
Great collab! Never seen Thumbelina, but I’ve recently rewatched Anastasia. My best recommendation for that is...buy the soundtrack, it’s awesome! The rest needs a lot of work.
Thumbelina's on disney plus. Because disney and fox made a deal to have their films combined. Even though Thumbelina wasn't exactly made by fox animation studios, (it was actually made by Warner Bros.) But it's considered a fox film.
I still think Anastasia deserves a live-action treatment
No Disney bought fox you idiot
Ironicly, I've been requesting animat to review Thumbelina and rip it to a thousand peices.
Sure, Thumbelina might not be the best, but at least it’s good.
Pretty nice collab
Thumbelina is not a rip off, stop acting like Disney owns the only rights to make fairytales. Fairytales are in public domain and Disney never made a Thumbelina movie.
I did not expect ILoveKimPossibleALot to show up on AniMat's channel! Way cool!
So..now with Disney owning "Anastasia", who else wants a crossover with "Princess and the Frog"? They are set within the same time period and Dr. Facilier and Rasputin are pretty similar.
I don't see how they are similar in and way...Rothbart (Swan princess) would make a much better comparison to Dr facilier
Out of all the youtubers you've collaberated with, I wouldn't have imagined you partnering with someone who has previously been making tons of MLP content. Fun video by the way.
I like Anastasia. No contest.
Just talking about Kelsey Grammer and David Hyde Pierce...I'm sorry, but I don't actually thing of Frasier. I think of that one episode from The Simpsons that ripped it off from Season Eight (let's just pretend Funeral For A Fiend didn't exist and just talk Brother From Another Series). Sorry, I had it on DVD from 2006 and I think I once saw a rerun of it on TV cause I remember thinking "Oh, that villain who hates Bart is actually trying to be good".
Tbh besides American Tail Thumbelina is my favorite Don Bluth.
Anastasia wins all the way 🙌🙌
Anastasia has got to be my #1 favourite Don Bluth movie of all time, while Thumbelina on the other hand is one of the worst Don Bluth films I've ever seen.
Oh yeah
11:30
Honestly I think Rock-a-Doodle belongs in there too.
I'm going to say it....I love Rock a doodle. Most people don't like it but it was my favorite as a kid and I still like it in my 30's. Chanticlare is my favorite character even though he's a Elvis chicken 🐔 I enjoy the songs.
I actually like Anastasia better, since it should've disserved it's place as part of the Walt Disney animation line up back then, along with the Land Before Time, an American Tail, We're Back a Dinosaur's story, Quest For Camelot, and even the Iron Giant. That would've agreed for Don Bluth's Anastaisa. Heck even I think some TV shows should join the Disney Family too, like My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, Thomas the Tank Engine, the Magic School Bus, and even the most common preschool show and my favorite, Dragon Tales.
Do you want that bloated corporation to continue monopolizing the entire entertainment industry? They've produced some good stuff, but acquired far more in recent years, and that enables them to stash loads of stuff away that otherwise wouldn't be. An American Tail, The Land Before Time and All Dogs Go To Heaven is the whole reason movies like Who Framed Roger Rabbit, The Little Mermaid and Mouse Detective even exist, or the entire slew of movies these gave way for. If they continue to do what they did with Fox, there will be less and less of that to keep them in line.
The First Animation from ILoveKimPossibleAlot was MLP Animation: Heaven's Light!
@@ILoveKimPossibleAlot i actually messed up there. I meant to say it was the first video I saw 😄
Thumbellina DID have one saving grace. When it premiered theatrically, it was accompanied by an Animaniacs short. Though, frankly, I wonder how many kids, like me, were suckered into having to beg their parents to take them to such a lousy movie just to see Yakko, Wakko, and Dot bigger and louder. There's 5 minutes of greatness followed by 80 minutes of substandard storytelling and awful songs covered up by a wasted effort of too good for the source material animation. And, like the "I'm Mad" short was only a few months away from being on the actual show. It wasn't on the video release, but on the plus side, you just had to buy an Animaniacs Sing-a-Long VHS instead of having a crap movie you'd never actually watch beyond the short.
8:59 RIP Gilbert Gottfried
While I don't really have fond memories of either film, I'd definitely say Anastasia, mostly cause of it's memorable soundtrack and entertaining villain (even if he doesn't fit the rest of the film)
Never saw Thumbelina but I did see Swan Princess.
I loved Anastasia and while being historically inaccurate, it was all for the better to tell a story of a lost princess trying to find out about her past while avoiding a curse that claimed her family.
Though when Anastasia found her Grandmother, the movie did stop its momentum until the final Rasputin battle scene.
Bluth's Disney heritage shines through with Anastasia and I noticed that since I was a big fan of Disney Animation films back in the 90s.
Also knew about Bluths films like American Tail and the Land before Time movies and knew that Bluth only worked on the first films and not the sequels.
Rasputin was the best part of the film and I loved the dark of the night
Anastasia did have a couple nice 20's dropped waist dresses in Paris, and the dream/nightmare scene did have a nice Edwardian sailor bathing costume!
Bartok’s voice kinda sounds like a mock version of Pat Buttram.
Nah, he sounds like Hank Azaria playing Hank Azaria.
THUMBELINA
Story: 3/10
Animation: 8/10
Characters: 2/10
Songs: 3/10
Overall: 4
ANASTASIA
Story: 8/10
Animation: 9/10
Characters: 9/10
Songs: 10/10
Overall: 9
Ra Ra Rasputin! Lol I friggin' love Boney M.!
Some of Don Bluths films also have TV shows for some reason like we have a Land Before Time TV series (I guess they thought we wanted MOAR Land Before Time) and a An American Tale TV series based on Fieval Goes West
Did she really confuse a swallow for a pelican? How do you do that?
No question about it Anastasia is 100 times better! Don Best work was Anastasia. It was great storytelling fit the Disney formula but also had great story development and character development all around the board. The Whole the story is in historically inaccurate. However it never was intended to be written to be historically accurate. It was always intended to be a fictional adaptation. Newsflash people if you want an actual real story of the Romanov watch the history channel. The fictional story of Anastasia was always supposed to be a fictional story. Even though the real Anastasia body wasn’t found yet back in 1997 it was almost pretty obvious that she was probably not alive anymore. No one wrote this with the intent of this being realistic and legitimately possible. Because again it’s a fictional story line of something that really happened an adaptation a what if if you will where she gets to live and get a happy ending. It was a well thought out story and still to this day holds up very well. Despite the real story not getting a happy ending that doesn’t mean we can’t have a fictional story of it getting a happy ending.
I like both, but honestly I like Thumbelina ALOT more since I grew up with it more, Thumbelina and Cornelius are so adorable together and are one of my favorite Bluth couples along with Dirk and Daphne as well. :) (I don't know if it's more of a girl thing, since I'm one of those types of girls who loves cute movies like this, even if I'm older now, I've always loved the animation, the songs and everything. :)
Sure the plot is cheesy but I love the characters, ESPECIALLY Thumbelina who's my favorite, I actually just watched a few scenes of Berkley Beetle in memory of Gilbert Gottfried in it again years later, and OMG, I find him absolutely HILARIOUS as Berkley now that I'm alot older and didn't really understand him as a kid, most people would be weirded out by him flirting with Thumbelina, but he became one of my favorite characters in the film next to her and Cornelius, he's so funny as him though! (And yes, is it weird I actually kinda ship him and Thumbelina, (of course, after her and Cornelius),. XD The running gag of him going "HIYA TOOTS!" =D to Thumbelina, just the way he says it and everything for no reason whenever he just shows up in a scene out of complete nowhere is just so funny to me, I DIE laughing everytime he's on screen saying it now! XD
Gilbert as Berkley then: "HIYA TOOTS!" =D
*Me watching as a kid: pure confusion being a stupid dumb kid not understanding ANYTHING happening on screen*
Gilbert as Berkley now that I'm older watching the movie years later: "HIYA TOOTS!" =D
*Me now: *WEEZE*
(Also, R.I.P. Gilbert...)
All the others though weirded me out with her, (The Toad and Mr. Mole, ). but I still enjoy it and the songs ESPECIALLY. :)
There's a film that I can't remember, where a girl becomes minion and discovers a world of tiny fairies in the forest and they have to fight against the men that want to destroy the forest. Does anyone know it? It's a bit similar to Thumbelina
@Luso Animation Thank you!
Anastasia being the first film I ever saw in cinema, you bet I prefer that one.
Anastasia is the superior film, it finally got Don Bluth back to form.
Until Titan AE which did the reverse effect.
MrJohnffrey87 because Fox actually let Bluth be himself with the movie, and let him return to his usually dark formulas, unlike Warner Bros, which was forcing Don to be cutesy to appeal to the young audience that it was to the point that it felt like he was talking down to the audience, which are big reasons why Rock-a-Doodle, Thumbelina, A Troll in Central Park, and The Pebble and the Penguin bombed.
Anastasia was the one I saw more often both growing up and now. I saw Thumbelina twice in my life. Anastasia I saw in theaters...and in school...and eventually my family got a VHS copy. The songs are catchier. The villain more of a threat and enjoyable. The supporting cast and love interest more developed. Plus Bartok makes the movie.
Hey Animat I Wanna To Do Also Patreon Requests As Well I Will Like You To Review 4 Animated Features Of 2009!
& They Are!
A Christmas Carol!
Ice Age Dawn Of The Dinosaurs!
Monsters Vs Aliens!
Up!
Planet 51!
Astroboy!
Mary & Max!
& Ponyo!
So Animat What 4 Animated Features Of 2009 You Will Like To Review!
THAT K.P. IS A SPOI!!
A milkshake to whoever gets that reference.
Bluth did such a great job with these films. And now I can say Anastasia is my favorite Disney princess
❤I Love Anastasia & ❤ I Love Songs in Anastasia & I Love Story in Anastasia
I love them both but THUMBELINA is my third favorite Don Bluth film while Anastasia is my fifth.
Hey Mat !!! Anastasia 🥰😊👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
It's a small thing but thank you for saying the church's full name. ❤️
Also Anastasia is one of my favorite Don Bluth films. I didn't see Thumbelina until I was much older and didn't really care for it.
Or Joanna from, “The Rescuers Down Under.” (lol)
Should Thumbelina and Anastasia become honorary Disney Princesses?
Ironically that these two movies were considered Disney knock-offs, but now after Disney bought Fox, ironically both of them and a few others are kinda now unofficial family members of Disney now. Weird since in Mexico (or I am not the only one?)Thumbelina was distributed by Warner Bros.
I still have a soft spot for Thumbelina however I agree that Anastasia is the better movie.
No, it wasn't just Mexico, Thumbelina was initially distributed by Warner Bros. worldwide.
You...........collaborated with KP!?!...............THAT IS JUST AWESOME!!!!:D
And you guys talking about one of my favorite animated role models just makes this even more amazing. Also to answer your question, Anastasia. Definitely Anastasia! That is far more superior in my opinion. Thumbelina in my opinion went way too far with trying to be a Disney film.
Don Bluth: I'm going to make my own animated movies to compete with Disney, so they can be seen as a completely separate entity. Fox seems like a good place to distribute them.
Disney: (buys Fox)
Don Bluth: th-cam.com/video/YcAHHKY3Y0I/w-d-xo.html
I don’t know if Anastasia is fox film or a Disney film
Fox film. It felt like Disney because Don Bluth was prior Disney.
I think on to animation and the film itself. I grew to love Anastasia more when it came out in the 90s. I watched the VHS tape of it like crazy and had a lot of the march. I kind of keep it as my fave non Disney film and Don Bluth film in general (and I guess now she's a Disney princess XD ) And thumblina keep close second for another fave non Disney movie. could say its a fun and cute movie. Has some good songs and animation itself was beautiful at the time.
I still like Don Bluth and his films 'The good & the bad' if at some point Don Bluth visits the UK I will die happy when I see him.