Harry, I had three Thema Turbos in the mid to late 90s. The last 2 were the later LS models which I believe were quicker to 60 than the 8.32. Amazing cars that I drove about 40,000 a year in. The turbo was all lag and then hold on for your life. One day I was working at Heinz in West London and what do I see in the guest parking lot but an Italian registered 8.32 so I parked next to it. When I came back to my car at the end of the day there was a business card with a 'nice car' note on it. It was the chair of Heinz Europe. Great cars.
Well to be fair, that V8 engine was Lancia's to start with. The Ferrari V8 in fact comes from the V8 that Vittorio Jano originally developed for Lancia F1 and sports cars back in the fifties. After Ascari's death, and Lancia subsequent withdrawal from all racing activities, all their stuff was passed to Ferrari, V8 included. Of course Ferrari upgraded and further developed the engine, but it wasn't theirs at its origin ;) so you could say that with the Thema it came back home
Cool bit of information. Thx for that. - The car reminds me my youth time. My friend Paulo bought one when he was 19 and just had his license for a few month. He scratched all of his money together (which was about 10.000 DM at that time - roughly 5000 Euros converted). It was a beautiful car and we all admired it - but unfortunatly just for 2 weeks. He needed to maintain the engine and some other stuff (Plugs, Filters, etc.) and as he was still broke after buying his car he needed to sell it to the repair shop it was getting fixed. - That was a sad day but I will always remember the time we had with that special and for us very expensive car.
You are right that the Lancia D50 project was handed over to Ferrari. But I would be very surprised indeed if that engine was the same as the 308 engine borrowed here
Where i live is not a very nice area but...when i was a kid a guy up the road from me had one of these sitting in the corner of his garden, me being quite the car buff when i was younger knew instantly what it was because of the rectangular indentation on the bootlid...wasnt badged. I used to brag to my mates that it had a Ferrari engine but theyd give me stick telling me i didnt know what i was on about and being stupid, the only person who could confirm this was the owner but he wasnt easy to pin down to chat to. Anyway for months i used to brag about the guy up the road with the Ferrari engined Lancia and took the stick my mates dished out until one day the owner was in the garden and i was dared to confirm what i already knew, so myself and my mates went over and with some urging...i was a shy kid lol...i asked him about his car, too my relief he confirmed my much derided theory and delighted in showing us around it and starting it up to let us hear that beautiful engine sound. Sadly he left it to rot in the corner, i never saw it move, he knew what he had and didnt want to let it go. Unfortunately he died about 10yrs ago, his house and all his possesions were sold, i was there when it was put onto a low loader and carried away, part of my childhood disappeared that day and i'll never forget that car mostly because it helped me finally get one over my mates lol, thanks for finding and showing it Harry, brought back a lot of good memories😊👍
Be interested to know, The main issue, Was working in that bay, so a lot of Thema's were scrapped, it was virtually impossible for the average Joe, to do any maintenance. Id day single figs, I've heard they were complete nightmares to work, and overheating problems, You could be looking at the last known running Thema in U.K
Hi Harry, congratulations for your great work! Just to add one note, the base of the Thema was a 4 car project ( code name Tipo 4) besides the Saab 9000 and the Fiat Croma, also gave birth to the beautiful Alfa 164. Thanks for great entertainment and take care!
I'm from 2004, and i know everything about lancia, I say that just to tell you that there are young people that are passionate about real cars manufacturers that are now petty much dead now, like lancia or alfa. My dad had an untegrale evo, my uncle an evo 2, while my other two uncles had a 155 silverstone and a quattroporte. They used to park them all together in front of their business and there was always a big crowd, trying to look inside the cabin through the windows
@@ale16_69 yup, I had my first Alfa (156 V6) at 17, sister and brother both had theirs at 16 and 15 respectively, dad's had two (164 2.0 and 155 V6) in my 25 years and a couple others before then going back to the 80's. Not all younger people are all about Skylines and Supras! Currently looking at picking up a Sprint as there's a really tasty early one for sale nearby with a wonderful little boxer and one of my neighbours has a genuine Delta Integral. You just can't beat an Italian for that wonderful feel. Mine have been fairly modern cars, because I was young and couldn't afford to maintain an older example, but they're getting older now I'm more established at 25. A Lancia would be a dream, I'd love a Fulvia, but they're a little outside my budget and very hard to find in my country (we're almost completely Jap imports) but one day
@@helplmchoking Don't know if youve5seen but there's a beautiful fulvia 3 1.3 S Safari for sale in the us, you can find it on classic driver. It's the rarest of the not HF Fulvias, only 900 examples, here in italy we can't drive cars with more than 80 hp before having accomplished one year from the license, me and my dad want to buy a Delta ibtegrale 16v together and keep it for when I'll be 19, we're gonna buy it half with my money, half with his. Yoyr story is beautiful, i hope you'll find the right car for you. But take a look at classic driver website, there're lots of fulvias, even in the us and some of them are pretty cheap.
@@ale16_69 sadly I'm in New Zealand, so even harder to find! I didn't know about the 80hp rule in Italy, that's fascinating! And it does rather make sense... I'll check out the website regardless, perhaps if the stars align there could be a case made from bringing one over here... Thanks for the tip!
@@helplmchoking nothing, is a pleasure to chat with true car guys, new zeland is my favorite place ouside Italy, few people, little cities, beautiful scenarios and roads. Olso houses are so cheap. Hope to go there one day soon. Good lyck for the Fulvia.
Rowan Atkinson put his 1989 Thema 8.32 up for sale at Silverstone Auctions earlier this year. It went for just shy of £30K. Apparently there's only 8 registered in the UK now (funnily up on recent years, must've been a few imported), so this is a real rare treat if you see one.
Looks like its a car to grab if you can find one. My mate chased down a first gen genuine M5 in spain for 10Keur a few years ago, didn't buy it and now these go for about 80K.
There is one for sale in holland if you are interested to buy one. Not really expensive either only 11.500 euro with 288.000km on it. In really good shape as well.
Before Fiat took Lancia over, Lancia models were mostly hand made and finished to a high standard. So to see the 832 which again were hand made and very special, is lovely to see again. Thanks Harry.
@Michele Caronti Wow even the Alfa Romeo 164 had been a great car. My father had the 2.0 twin spark. But this one was something unusual, quite special. 😃
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@Michele Caronti I had two 164, fists gen 3.0 12v and second and last gen 3.0 24v, this was a fabulous car, way improved over the 12v, one of the best cars I ever had, only surpassed by the Alfa 166!
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@Michele Caronti Yes, I know what you men, problem with the 12v for me was the fueling, over time the old bosh system made the car a little jerky, at least mine.
OH MY GOD! I've been desperate to find a good review of this car since Top Gear's Tribute to Lancia episode. And here it is in Harry's garage, there's no better man on Earth to review such car!
I had it in my fathers garage along with Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 . Both red . Not to mention other ones like Ritmo's ,Super Mirafiori's ....all with top engines . Sweet days of real cars not these "tablet" cars of today. Now cars have adjustable suspension , Alfa had it 25 years ago . Oh that glory days of goin to coast with family and on 3rd hour of driving camshaft broke. No problem, boys get that tools from trunk...2 hours later we are blasting away. You fixed your car on the road,meeting new people,having fun in problem... Today no one talks to anyone on the road,every one scared. Btw great review , ty for bringin memories back, on my late father the real piston head who imprinted love for cars to me and my brother. Ty ty.
Lancia (before being gobbled up by Fiat) were always ahead of their time. After experiencing driving a Lancia, driving a BMW felt like driving a truck.
What happened to Lancia? Motoring journalists always slated them and always said why would anyone buy one when they could have a beemer or merc! I remember this car and remember all the Italian cars of the time. Because of motoring journalists they were almost worthless before they were even sold. Don’t get me wrong, they all enthused about how they drove but then came the caveats by the dozen and it scared people off, that of course and the rust issue which by the time this came out was more a myth than actual but it was only ten years previously that one could see Alfa Suds new with rust and people did not forget. Thankfully that left folks like me with great driving cheap cars which were so much more fun than anything else at the time! Great review of a great car Harry, this was a poster car for me back in the day.
Exactly! Lancia was always a special car brand to me since I was a kid. But then I forgot it, because of that German propaganda... Only German cars are good, etc., now I am driving Lancia Thesis 2,4jtd emblema... Best car I've ever had... Incredible still modern design, ridiculously comfortable and you ask yourself... Why People didn.'t buy them, they were amazing cars? Now People start to respect Lancia, because lancia was always ahead of time so much, that was the real problem of Lancia... too many stupid people.
Not quite destroyed, its clinging on with the Ypsilon as its only car and only available in Italy, shame that such a highly regarded brand is left to rot.
The UK was one of their big markets. The cars rotting, often failing a first MOT was the problem. Fiat learned by the 90's and started to rust proof their cars, Lancia didn't and they kept rotting due to the salt we use on the roads.
Nice car. Always liked Italian cars. My dad used to own a fiat 131 mirafiori at around 1980 ish. He bought it brand new and I loved it. I was 9yrs old and i can still remember the 3 week road trip down from Newcastle to Dover. Across to France on the hovercraft. 1 week in France then my dad drove us to Spain where we had a 2 week holiday. Great memories.
One of my favorites. I remember quite well this period. My father had a theme turbo 16v, and it was super super fast and nose heavy. The 8.32 was dream car for the Italian petrolheads. Great content Harry!
Now compare that to the steering wheel from 458 :)) Yes 458 is an epic car but I think we don't need to have all that stuff to enjoy the ride ;) Cars are getting so complicated today.
It would be like this: - 30 seconds introduction about the car, showing some basic wikipedia knowledge - 1 minute of what he is going to do in the video (the same as usual is the answer) - 15 minutes presenting quirks and features, ending every third sentense with "like in a normal car". - 5 minutes driving while filming just his face literally having nothing to say about dynamics - 2 minute conclusion about how weird the car is (even if it really isn't) Of course this would all be peppered with some "FOR XXX thousand dollars!", "All cars should have this", "These unlabelled buttons, which you would not know what to do if you didn't watch this video, but this is what they do". Stretching every little bit of the video till infinity.
The two most impressive elements of this channel are Harry's unquestionably passionate love of cars, and the diversity of vehicles reviewed. #brilliant🤙🎦
This is the only channel on TH-cam where I like the video "Before" I watch it. Thanks Harry! By the way, this car is the definition of a "sleeper"...what a car!
My grandfather bought his 1987 Thema i.e. Turbo brand new, and he still has it with only 14,000 original miles. It still has the interior wrapped in delivery plastic, and has never been out in the rain. I've been helping him get it back on the road recently, and I must say that I have fallrn in love with the Thema.... Lovely cars they are
@ronnie doorzon what's the purpose of having a perfect but soulless car? And ferrari, maserati, alfa and lancia were not unreliable,fiats were, have you ever had one? I had a 75 twin spark, an Integrale 16v, a gtv v6, an uno, and i drove my cousins integrale evo, maserati quattroporte and fulvia , and my brother 155 silverstone and 156, never had a single problem.
@ronnie doorzon Excuse me, engineer, which car factory do you work for? I bet his car also has at least half of its Italian patents and inventions in its mechanics.
@ronnie doorzon Volkswagen Passat. I know personally two different people which had to ditch that piece of garbage. I live in a country (you can guess which one) where people only buy VW, Audi, Skoda and BMW, so I have a pretty good view on how reliable or unreliable those cars can be. It is sad that you need to write your little hateful statements without having done your basic homework first. Especially VW and Audi are everything but super reliable cars, you need to visit mechanic shops more often and ask them which cars they bring to them all the time.
Ah, brings back memories - I did my apprenticeship as a mechanic at a Lancia/Fiat/Alfa specialist and we used to have one of these come in to be worked on.
Well I didn’t realise even thinking back to the 80’s that the Lancia, Fiat and Saab were all the same body! Great video, the 80’s had some superb machines, I feel for these youngsters now who think a vinyl wrap Bentley is cool.
Nothing better than the day you get the notification that Harry has uploaded. Best 'Automotive TH-camr' by far. Next video: OMG! New Exhaust for my Lancia!!
Great video, great car. As Harry commented, building great cars like the 8:32 and the Integrale as late as 91'/94' and Lancia still faded away into obscurity. Such a shame...
When that car came out, I was in high school. And back then I already thought "What a concept! What an amazing car, to have a Ferrari V8 in the front of a sedan/saloon!" To finally watch a review of 1, thanks Harry. On a tangent, I forget how nicely designed 80s cars were. It seems like it's taken a long time to get back to some features like bigger glasshouse & windows for better visibility etc.
Possibly the car I love the best of all you have tested Harry. What a fabulous, handsome car with more character and class than a garage full of new German cars. Made my day watching this. Cars just don’t have the same cozy appeal of soft, comfortable relaxing luxury. Everyone is hell bent on sporty dynamics and far too much unnecessary tech. The 8.32 is totally under the drivers control with no nanny safety crap. Rather ironically I can also pretty much guarantee you wont see many current cars lasting as long as the Lancia as ruinous electrical failures will have long finished them off
Very nice Harry! I drive my SW version of the Thema 8.32 for 9 years now and love every minute of it! Some key features are also the wheels with 5 bolts in it instead of 4 and the fully chromed grille.
TheTruth76 Yes,the 500E is my favourite car of all time.Harry please do a review/drive of one.What a shame about the rusted out one in your neighbours garden 😩
@@andreaaltana2176 what are you on about?? We are talking about the fiat Dino not the Lancia. Read the original comment that I'm responding to before responding to me numb nuts..
Great video, I was a big Lancia fan and had 5. I had the pleasure of driving a Thema turbo and a Montecarlo as loan cars on a couple of occasions while the dealer serviced my Gamma coupe.
Loved my Thema, I had the 2.0 16 valve Turbo - It was breathed on and very quick. Alcantara interior.. The Integrale engine basically but just front wheel drive. I believe the bodyshell was gulvanised up to the window line on those models.
One of my dream cars when I was a boy because I had a poster of the donator of the engine above my bed (Ferrari 308). A decade later a funky car collector in the neighborhood had one parked in the garden. Brings back memories these videos. Thx Harry!
Good evening I own 2 lancia Them a 8.32 and need the gasoline pump from Bosch. Can you tell me where you got them? My email address is y.aslanhan@gmail.com. Many Thanks
Well said Sir! Superb choices but who would be brave enough to own the Mk 4 Maserati Four-Door? They look great though, even today. On the Alfa, have owned several smaller sallons but didn't take the chance to buy a 164 Q4 for 1500 quid in the mid 2000s...was low mileage too....think I had two 33s and a 145 (all Cloverleaf) at the time so passed on it. A friend of mine and his brother had 2 8.32s between them until 4-5 years ago when they sold them. I think they are worth quite a bit more now. Love that spoiler - it was operated by one of the switchgear arms.
Living in the US (and born in 1984) I had never heard of the 8:32. What a wonderful wolf in sheep's clothing! The noise alone makes it worth it. Thanks Harry!
The Thema was very rare in SA but I managed to own 2. First was the 8v non-turbo which was very under-powered. Then when I saw an I.E. 16v Turbo I jumped at it. The Turbo is not as special as the 8:32 but it is almost as quick, and a lot cheaper to run. One of the most exclusive cars I've owned, and a lot better than most critics seem to say it is. Fast cruiser and the ex used to moan about the speed until she used it one night and phoned to say she was doing 180 down the motorway and couldn't feel it.
This is another Classic Harry Car - fantastic. You need to keep this 4 door super saloon thing going, especially after seeing the Lotus Carlton in the back ground, drool.
I was lucky enough to run into one of the 8.32s by accident. I had just bought a 93 Thema 2.0 16V turbo (series 3) and since I worked in Oslo at the time, I popped in on the original importer to have a chat about parts and what not. When I walked into their shop they were working on an 8.32. Apparently the leather dash had shrunk, which was fascinating in itself, but they let me walk around it and even poke at things despite working on it. True enthusiasts they were (and I do believe it was the shop owner's car). Needless to say I spent much more time in that shop than I had planned for, and nearly missed my flight back home! Oh, and while my '93 Thema was a lovely car the number of electrical issues and quirks it had for a third series production run was staggering!
Harry is the only person which will enjoy and review even a supermarket trolley with a V8 engine and all of us will just sit and watch. Excellent review, amazing sound interesting car. Thanks Harry ! Cheers.
I recall being in Italy in 1986 and near the Ferrari test track at Fiorano and hearing this car being tested. It was the first V8 we'd heard for weeks. Just glorious!
Many thanks for this Harry, wonderful machine. You've got to feature an Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 which was also very special, or a QV at least, to do it justice, since you've forgotten to mention it in the review when talking about the type 4 platform!
The channel is excellent. The attention to detail, the enthusiasm that goes into each review, is impressively evident. I recommend anyone who hasn't signed up yet to do so. May those who bring quality content be valued.
Excellent car & video. Many thanks for bringing us this beauty from the '80s. There were 4 cars sharing the same frame: the SAAB 9000, this Lancia, the Fiat Croma and the Alfa Romeo 164. There is no need to mention which of them were the most beautiful, thanks to the italian designers and especially pininfarina
Beautiful artistry of subtle intelligence of machinery, Harry sir... I am 57 yrs old 🗝️, my late father was a machanic so I absolutely appreciate and solitary enjoy watching avidly your channel, thanks again as always good sir. Keep feeding us the joy.
Remember seing one of these in 91 or 92 at a Lancia showroom. The 2nd I´ve seen was 6 months ago and it was part of a private collection. Always loved the magic aura of a Ferrari engine in a Thema.
Harry I've had 17 lancia,s in my time 4 of them being thema,s loved them all.when I was 12 my father bought his first lancia .a beta 2.0 saloon and that is what got me into Italian cars lancia and alfa love them all.
Fantastic review from Harry; love the more obscure cars that you don't normally get to see. That rear spoiler is mad! The E38 BMW 7 Series had rear headrests (on higher specced models) that would automatically electrically raise when the respective seat belt was fastened, then lower again as soon as the belt was unbuckled.
I always had a fascination for this car. When I was a young lad I had a car magazine with the test drive of this model and I fell in love with it first time I saw it. Amazingly, they're super cheap to buy. Under 20 grand buys a great low mileage model. I imagine that maintaining one is the costliest part. Lancias aren't know for their reliability, especially having specific Ferrari parts.
Viriatvs of Lvsitania Yeah me too, always been interested in it. I've never seen one and they must be at there cheapest now but I wouldn't like to pay for any major work on one.
I agree, though the current Guilia Q is a more overtly sporting. At least Ferrari is still allowing versions of their engines to be used in other Italian cars. This is the only one now, though?
When I see one of the cars, I always think of Sir Stirling Moss. When Stirling was the after-dinner speaker at a Lancia Motor Club (several years ago) he rushed over to view an 8.32 in the car park and excitedly asked the owner to show the boot-lid spoiler and then asked if he could operate it himself. It was charming moment of Stirling's child-like enthusiasm.
The V8 in the 8:32 doesn't have the characteristic high-pitched engine note of the 308/Mondial because the crankshaft was modified from flat-plane to 90-degree resulting in different firing order and a more muscle-car tone - legend says that this was done to differentiate the 8:32 from the typical Ferrari V8 sound, but some facts also point at a more refined engine balance and space constraints in the engine bay.
The engine was retuned from the original to have a more useful power curve for a family saloon. Hence it's more refined than Harry expected. You drive it round in a normal rev range, you don't need to ring its neck to get the most performance out of it. I don't think changing the crank timing will have much impact on the external size, the big ends are still going to go round in the same circle ;-)
I finally see the video of 1 of my childhood dream cars, super expensive latin saloon. It was very famous in Japan, almost 2.5 times more expensive than normal thema. Thank you sir!
Wow talk about a blast from the past. I had a Delta HF Turbo ie in the early nineties and my boss had a lovey maroon 2.0 turbo Thema. Lancia’s were so different to anything else about. And fast!! Thanks for the video and what a car!
Get one Harry ! I remember years ago in Ayr where I lived near one used to drive around and I lusted after it so much and all my mates were like nah we want cosworths.
Sad for Lancia, I had 2 Kappa, they were amazing cars, fast, reliable and exotic. It was a pleasure to drive. Unfortunately FCA decided to kill Lancia.
Exactly when I heard this V8 sound recorded inside Lancia, I have to say is very similar to Porsche 928. What a great cars. Thank you for showing this beautiful car.
Lancia's demise is a friggin shame. Such a great badge with so many iconic cars. And the 8-32 wouldn't even make my top 5 of the coolest Lancias ... even though it is a rather cool ride.
A Lancia Beta 2.0 Coupe was one of my first cars back in the mid-80s. I absolutely loved it. It had everything you would associate with driving an Italian car: It was an exercise in style and panache over practicality and common sense. The Lancias and Alfa Romeos of this period (like the GTV V6) may have been flawed, but driving them was always such a joy and an adventure.
My second car was a Beta Coupe 1600. It was so luxurious and exotic compared with the competition, Ford Capri anyone? I loved the way the twin cam engine would rev so smoothly to the redline. It was FWD but don't be fooled, Lancia knew how to engineer their cars and it certainly handled. Now almost 40 years later I have another.
Thanks Harry, for a great episode. Sorry for the plug. If anyone's interested in a parts car, I have one Thema 8.32 for spares. Still with working engine/basically all complete.
Harry as you can see from the comments the people that KNOW about these have left This is a True Legend you have made my day. I've had 2 Themas in the past. An 1988 8v Turbo series 1 and a 1994 16v Turbo LS series 2. Both were quick but the series 2 was something else. Nobody ever knew what it was and it surprised anyone who fancied their chances at the lights. But the 8.32 is the Holy Grail Amazing video Harry thanks again would Love to see you do a series 2 16v Turbo video. Great Stuff.
Harry, I hope I haven't missed one of your videos. Would you consider getting hold of a Rover P5B or P6B and do a review of it? They're such iconic British cars that have gotten little recognition. Food for thought.
This is so spooky,I was only talking to someone about this car a few days ago and it shows up on video feed.I can’t get enough of Harry’s videos,even watch the farm series sometimes.
Once I saw the photo of the black Lotus Carlton (Omega), I can't stop thinking how awesome it'd be, if we could see your take on that absolute beast of a sedan. Love this channel!
@@whisperdancer 0 to 60 lotus carlton has it by over 1 second however 0 to 100mph is a match from the stats I can find. There aren't lots of cars to compare against from that era hence my general interest.
No comparison at all, the 8.32 is a nice and pleasant car overall but when you try to push a little bit its limits come out very soon being really nose eavy: is just not done for that. While the Lotus Omega is much more balanced, way faster and overall just a better drivers car
Lee Morson Carlton is faster by almost 2 seconds from 0-60 and more than 5 seconds from 0-100mph. There is really no comparison possible. The Carlton was a beast compared to the Lancia. But I would take the 8.32...
Thanks for another great video. my taxi driver in Germany had one of these for a while: I can remember surprise the first time he accelerated onto the autobahn, glorious sound!
Lovely car! What an effort to fit a cross plane crankshaft. Worth it for the noise alone, but also smoother than a flat plane. Looking forward to a video from that super saloon meet!
Harry, I had three Thema Turbos in the mid to late 90s. The last 2 were the later LS models which I believe were quicker to 60 than the 8.32. Amazing cars that I drove about 40,000 a year in. The turbo was all lag and then hold on for your life. One day I was working at Heinz in West London and what do I see in the guest parking lot but an Italian registered 8.32 so I parked next to it. When I came back to my car at the end of the day there was a business card with a 'nice car' note on it. It was the chair of Heinz Europe. Great cars.
Nice compliment 👍🏼
I had a Thema turbo too, you summed up the driving experience perfectly! I think here in NZ they have all fizzed to bits by now.
I hope you could ketch up with him later.
@@rabola55 Well played @rabola55!
Well to be fair, that V8 engine was Lancia's to start with. The Ferrari V8 in fact comes from the V8 that Vittorio Jano originally developed for Lancia F1 and sports cars back in the fifties. After Ascari's death, and Lancia subsequent withdrawal from all racing activities, all their stuff was passed to Ferrari, V8 included. Of course Ferrari upgraded and further developed the engine, but it wasn't theirs at its origin ;) so you could say that with the Thema it came back home
Thanks, good to know!
I also though of this story. After all, the 1956 F1 Ferrari was Ferrari by Lancia, a developed version of the Lancia D50.
Cool bit of information. Thx for that. - The car reminds me my youth time. My friend Paulo bought one when he was 19 and just had his license for a few month. He scratched all of his money together (which was about 10.000 DM at that time - roughly 5000 Euros converted). It was a beautiful car and we all admired it - but unfortunatly just for 2 weeks. He needed to maintain the engine and some other stuff (Plugs, Filters, etc.) and as he was still broke after buying his car he needed to sell it to the repair shop it was getting fixed. - That was a sad day but I will always remember the time we had with that special and for us very expensive car.
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You are right that the Lancia D50 project was handed over to Ferrari. But I would be very surprised indeed if that engine was the same as the 308 engine borrowed here
When you’re about to watch some BS supercar owner wrap his hideous car but then you see the notification for Harry driving an old Lancia 🙌
Literally.
I just don't watch them :)
If they keep having Parker on their channels, I’m gonna unsubscribe from the lot of them.
The best car channel on UT. Not a hipster poser in sight.😂
Lol, u referring to a certain Lambo?
Where i live is not a very nice area but...when i was a kid a guy up the road from me had one of these sitting in the corner of his garden, me being quite the car buff when i was younger knew instantly what it was because of the rectangular indentation on the bootlid...wasnt badged. I used to brag to my mates that it had a Ferrari engine but theyd give me stick telling me i didnt know what i was on about and being stupid, the only person who could confirm this was the owner but he wasnt easy to pin down to chat to. Anyway for months i used to brag about the guy up the road with the Ferrari engined Lancia and took the stick my mates dished out until one day the owner was in the garden and i was dared to confirm what i already knew, so myself and my mates went over and with some urging...i was a shy kid lol...i asked him about his car, too my relief he confirmed my much derided theory and delighted in showing us around it and starting it up to let us hear that beautiful engine sound. Sadly he left it to rot in the corner, i never saw it move, he knew what he had and didnt want to let it go. Unfortunately he died about 10yrs ago, his house and all his possesions were sold, i was there when it was put onto a low loader and carried away, part of my childhood disappeared that day and i'll never forget that car mostly because it helped me finally get one over my mates lol, thanks for finding and showing it Harry, brought back a lot of good memories😊👍
That is so sad.
Poor Thema, Pity She wasn't saved.
Great story :) Shame about the car!
@@Jademyheart How many do think are 'saved' now?
Be interested to know,
The main issue, Was working in that bay, so a lot of Thema's were scrapped, it was virtually impossible for the average Joe, to do any maintenance. Id day single figs,
I've heard they were complete nightmares to work, and overheating problems, You could be looking at the last known running Thema in U.K
Great childhood memories 🫂🙏
Harry just keeps delivering. The highest compliment I can pay you is my partner just put her iPad down to listen to you talk about cars.
Your partner is a keeper.
I bet you didn't dare make a comment tho lol
Hi Harry, congratulations for your great work! Just to add one note, the base of the Thema was a 4 car project ( code name Tipo 4) besides the Saab 9000 and the Fiat Croma, also gave birth to the beautiful Alfa 164. Thanks for great entertainment and take care!
Kids, there was a time when Lancia was considered status symbol....
I'm from 2004, and i know everything about lancia, I say that just to tell you that there are young people that are passionate about real cars manufacturers that are now petty much dead now, like lancia or alfa. My dad had an untegrale evo, my uncle an evo 2, while my other two uncles had a 155 silverstone and a quattroporte. They used to park them all together in front of their business and there was always a big crowd, trying to look inside the cabin through the windows
@@ale16_69 yup, I had my first Alfa (156 V6) at 17, sister and brother both had theirs at 16 and 15 respectively, dad's had two (164 2.0 and 155 V6) in my 25 years and a couple others before then going back to the 80's. Not all younger people are all about Skylines and Supras!
Currently looking at picking up a Sprint as there's a really tasty early one for sale nearby with a wonderful little boxer and one of my neighbours has a genuine Delta Integral.
You just can't beat an Italian for that wonderful feel. Mine have been fairly modern cars, because I was young and couldn't afford to maintain an older example, but they're getting older now I'm more established at 25. A Lancia would be a dream, I'd love a Fulvia, but they're a little outside my budget and very hard to find in my country (we're almost completely Jap imports) but one day
@@helplmchoking Don't know if youve5seen but there's a beautiful fulvia 3 1.3 S Safari for sale in the us, you can find it on classic driver. It's the rarest of the not HF Fulvias, only 900 examples, here in italy we can't drive cars with more than 80 hp before having accomplished one year from the license, me and my dad want to buy a Delta ibtegrale 16v together and keep it for when I'll be 19, we're gonna buy it half with my money, half with his. Yoyr story is beautiful, i hope you'll find the right car for you. But take a look at classic driver website, there're lots of fulvias, even in the us and some of them are pretty cheap.
@@ale16_69 sadly I'm in New Zealand, so even harder to find!
I didn't know about the 80hp rule in Italy, that's fascinating! And it does rather make sense...
I'll check out the website regardless, perhaps if the stars align there could be a case made from bringing one over here... Thanks for the tip!
@@helplmchoking nothing, is a pleasure to chat with true car guys, new zeland is my favorite place ouside Italy, few people, little cities, beautiful scenarios and roads. Olso houses are so cheap. Hope to go there one day soon. Good lyck for the Fulvia.
Rowan Atkinson put his 1989 Thema 8.32 up for sale at Silverstone Auctions earlier this year. It went for just shy of £30K. Apparently there's only 8 registered in the UK now (funnily up on recent years, must've been a few imported), so this is a real rare treat if you see one.
scowy1978 Yeah I've never seen one. and probably never will. It's got to be worth a fortune in a few years, can't get any cheaper
Looks like its a car to grab if you can find one. My mate chased down a first gen genuine M5 in spain for 10Keur a few years ago, didn't buy it and now these go for about 80K.
Gplus sucks big Yeah cool cars the 1st m5 with the center exhaust . Best I've seen was a Clio V6 in liquid yellow for £3600 a few years ago.
Lucky be sold it before he put it into a hedge.
would love to find one in my country. (us) this look slike it would be an amazing drive.talk about a total sleeper.
I'm American and I've been interested in this car since I first heard of it. What a treat to see Harry review it
There is one for sale in holland if you are interested to buy one. Not really expensive either only 11.500 euro with 288.000km on it. In really good shape as well.
nothing wrong with being american
@@paulhunter123 nothing? That explains so much.
Before Fiat took Lancia over, Lancia models were mostly hand made and finished to a high standard. So to see the 832 which again were hand made and very special, is lovely to see again. Thanks Harry.
Lancia was fully owned by FIAT in the 80s.... Nevertheless an incredible and rare machine
Hallo Harry, in Italy that car is very well appreciated. Expecialy in the highway that car was very fast!
@Michele Caronti Wow even the Alfa Romeo 164 had been a great car. My father had the 2.0 twin spark. But this one was something unusual, quite special. 😃
@Michele Caronti I had two 164, fists gen 3.0 12v and second and last gen 3.0 24v, this was a fabulous car, way improved over the 12v, one of the best cars I ever had, only surpassed by the Alfa 166!
@Michele Caronti Yes, I know what you men, problem with the 12v for me was the fueling, over time the old bosh system made the car a little jerky, at least mine.
Stefano Cecchini we very well remember 8.32, even we are not from Italy 😎
Whoa! Never actually knew about this car but I absolutely love it! Seems very similar to the original m5 but somehow more gentlemanly
Fantastic car, love this era of Italian cars.
buy a fiat uno
@@paulhunter123 Thanks but I have an Alfa Romeo 155 V6 already.
OH MY GOD! I've been desperate to find a good review of this car since Top Gear's Tribute to Lancia episode. And here it is in Harry's garage, there's no better man on Earth to review such car!
I had it in my fathers garage along with Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 . Both red . Not to mention other ones like Ritmo's ,Super Mirafiori's ....all with top engines . Sweet days of real cars not these "tablet" cars of today. Now cars have adjustable suspension , Alfa had it 25 years ago . Oh that glory days of goin to coast with family and on 3rd hour of driving camshaft broke. No problem, boys get that tools from trunk...2 hours later we are blasting away. You fixed your car on the road,meeting new people,having fun in problem... Today no one talks to anyone on the road,every one scared.
Btw great review , ty for bringin memories back, on my late father the real piston head who imprinted love for cars to me and my brother. Ty ty.
It sounds soo good
cooler than any BMW Audi and Mercedes of the 21 century
but you wouldnt look at it and think corr 190e cosworth was a lot cooler
Lancia (before being gobbled up by Fiat) were always ahead of their time. After experiencing driving a Lancia, driving a BMW felt like driving a truck.
I'm happy for you to think that :)
R A I’ve driven a few so that surprises me. Which ones did you try and how knackered were they?
@@AyoHues He worked as the head janitor at Lada tug...tug...tug..
What happened to Lancia? Motoring journalists always slated them and always said why would anyone buy one when they could have a beemer or merc! I remember this car and remember all the Italian cars of the time. Because of motoring journalists they were almost worthless before they were even sold. Don’t get me wrong, they all enthused about how they drove but then came the caveats by the dozen and it scared people off, that of course and the rust issue which by the time this came out was more a myth than actual but it was only ten years previously that one could see Alfa Suds new with rust and people did not forget.
Thankfully that left folks like me with great driving cheap cars which were so much more fun than anything else at the time! Great review of a great car Harry, this was a poster car for me back in the day.
Exactly! Lancia was always a special car brand to me since I was a kid. But then I forgot it, because of that German propaganda... Only German cars are good, etc., now I am driving Lancia Thesis 2,4jtd emblema... Best car I've ever had... Incredible still modern design, ridiculously comfortable and you ask yourself... Why People didn.'t buy them, they were amazing cars? Now People start to respect Lancia, because lancia was always ahead of time so much, that was the real problem of Lancia... too many stupid people.
ianmedium Lancia is the Italian Honda... both lost their glorious heritage and soul
Destroyed by cesare romiti and cantarella
Not quite destroyed, its clinging on with the Ypsilon as its only car and only available in Italy, shame that such a highly regarded brand is left to rot.
The UK was one of their big markets. The cars rotting, often failing a first MOT was the problem. Fiat learned by the 90's and started to rust proof their cars, Lancia didn't and they kept rotting due to the salt we use on the roads.
Nice car. Always liked Italian cars. My dad used to own a fiat 131 mirafiori at around 1980 ish. He bought it brand new and I loved it. I was 9yrs old and i can still remember the 3 week road trip down from Newcastle to Dover. Across to France on the hovercraft. 1 week in France then my dad drove us to Spain where we had a 2 week holiday. Great memories.
nico mal comparing apples with oranges eh
@@nessuno5403 no not really
One of my favorites. I remember quite well this period. My father had a theme turbo 16v, and it was super super fast and nose heavy. The 8.32 was dream car for the Italian petrolheads. Great content Harry!
Thema*
Yes, sorry!
This car has a perfect steering wheel. How great it is to have just a steering with no buttons and no bullshit!
its brown
My (now sold) Ferrari 360 had the best steering wheel of all time. No buttons or paddles, even the airbag looked cool.
Now compare that to the steering wheel from 458 :)) Yes 458 is an epic car but I think we don't need to have all that stuff to enjoy the ride ;) Cars are getting so complicated today.
Would be even better if it didn’t have an airbag.
There are few things more beautiful in a cars interior than a nice slim 3 spoke steering wheel!
*sees the words Harry's Garage, Lancia.*
*Presses like before video even starts*
Best car videos on TH-cam. Thank you Harry.
Don't forget that Alfa Romeos 164 was one of the Type 4 iterations, too. Thank you for producing some fascinating videos, Harry!!
Good point!
Lancias also had the Busso V6 and shared many components with the Alfa, from what I see in parts lists.
I think the Fiat Croma also had a version with the busso V6, interesting car lineup Fiat had going back then
TBfilms657 Yes, 2.5V6 from 155
Saab 9000 aero, This and an alfa 164. I want one of each.
I love these videos. If it was Doug DeMouro's video it would be 35 minutes long with at least 3 minutes about those headrests.
He'd give it a 3 for Acceleration
It would be like this:
- 30 seconds introduction about the car, showing some basic wikipedia knowledge
- 1 minute of what he is going to do in the video (the same as usual is the answer)
- 15 minutes presenting quirks and features, ending every third sentense with "like in a normal car".
- 5 minutes driving while filming just his face literally having nothing to say about dynamics
- 2 minute conclusion about how weird the car is (even if it really isn't)
Of course this would all be peppered with some "FOR XXX thousand dollars!", "All cars should have this", "These unlabelled buttons, which you would not know what to do if you didn't watch this video, but this is what they do". Stretching every little bit of the video till infinity.
@@mieguistumas then give it a baffling score.
mieguistumas True story.
Who is this Doug Demoron anyway? Do I need to care?
The two most impressive elements of this channel are Harry's unquestionably passionate love of cars, and the diversity of vehicles reviewed. #brilliant🤙🎦
Please do more super saloons ... lotus Carlton is a must
the only super saloon is the m5
Lotus ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The first thing i thought of was the Lotus Carlton.
@@paulhunter123 wow. You are Standard.
dont make saloons
This is the only channel on TH-cam where I like the video "Before" I watch it. Thanks Harry! By the way, this car is the definition of a "sleeper"...what a car!
My grandfather bought his 1987 Thema i.e. Turbo brand new, and he still has it with only 14,000 original miles. It still has the interior wrapped in delivery plastic, and has never been out in the rain. I've been helping him get it back on the road recently, and I must say that I have fallrn in love with the Thema.... Lovely cars they are
Fabulous, please preserve it
Italians were always ahead of the rest. I just love this car. Amazing car.
@ronnie doorzon lmao, as if the the Germans, Americans or Japanese have never made a unreliable car
@ronnie doorzon what's the purpose of having a perfect but soulless car? And ferrari, maserati, alfa and lancia were not unreliable,fiats were, have you ever had one? I had a 75 twin spark, an Integrale 16v, a gtv v6, an uno, and i drove my cousins integrale evo, maserati quattroporte and fulvia , and my brother 155 silverstone and 156, never had a single problem.
@ronnie doorzon Excuse me, engineer, which car factory do you work for? I bet his car also has at least half of its Italian patents and inventions in its mechanics.
@ronnie doorzon little ronnie sounds a bit jealous
@ronnie doorzon Volkswagen Passat. I know personally two different people which had to ditch that piece of garbage. I live in a country (you can guess which one) where people only buy VW, Audi, Skoda and BMW, so I have a pretty good view on how reliable or unreliable those cars can be. It is sad that you need to write your little hateful statements without having done your basic homework first. Especially VW and Audi are everything but super reliable cars, you need to visit mechanic shops more often and ask them which cars they bring to them all the time.
One of my favourite Harry videos, watched this many times, just love it .
Ah, brings back memories - I did my apprenticeship as a mechanic at a Lancia/Fiat/Alfa specialist and we used to have one of these come in to be worked on.
Well I didn’t realise even thinking back to the 80’s that the Lancia, Fiat and Saab were all the same body! Great video, the 80’s had some superb machines, I feel for these youngsters now who think a vinyl wrap Bentley is cool.
Finally a Lancia Harry! Time to come over in the Alpine and test it against the 69 FULVIA 1,6 HF "Fanalone"
Nothing better than the day you get the notification that Harry has uploaded. Best 'Automotive TH-camr' by far.
Next video: OMG! New Exhaust for my Lancia!!
Great video, great car. As Harry commented, building great cars like the 8:32 and the Integrale as late as 91'/94' and Lancia still faded away into obscurity. Such a shame...
When that car came out, I was in high school. And back then I already thought "What a concept! What an amazing car, to have a Ferrari V8 in the front of a sedan/saloon!" To finally watch a review of 1, thanks Harry.
On a tangent, I forget how nicely designed 80s cars were. It seems like it's taken a long time to get back to some features like bigger glasshouse & windows for better visibility etc.
Possibly the car I love the best of all you have tested Harry. What a fabulous, handsome car with more character and class than a garage full of new German cars. Made my day watching this. Cars just don’t have the same cozy appeal of soft, comfortable relaxing luxury. Everyone is hell bent on sporty dynamics and far too much unnecessary tech. The 8.32 is totally under the drivers control with no nanny safety crap. Rather ironically I can also pretty much guarantee you wont see many current cars lasting as long as the Lancia as ruinous electrical failures will have long finished them off
RichieT5 :R
Agreed!
Very nice Harry! I drive my SW version of the Thema 8.32 for 9 years now and love every minute of it!
Some key features are also the wheels with 5 bolts in it instead of 4 and the fully chromed grille.
Thanks for the extra info, 9 years driving an 8:32 is proper special!
Lovely car along with the W124 500E
@@markbeattie1553 save it!
Yes the 500E is a beast!
TheTruth76 Yes,the 500E is my favourite car of all time.Harry please do a review/drive of one.What a shame about the rusted out one in your neighbours garden 😩
Totally agree! 500E, The Best Sport sedan ever with the E39 M5 😉
E 60 AMG , Alpina B10
Love to watch these vids...I,m a Banbury Boy until 1972....biked around all these roads in the 60's
FIAT Dino Coupe and Spyder shared the Dino V6 as well as the Stratos
I was going to comment on that, but i guess i came here too late
There's also the F136 V8 used by both Ferrari and Maserati.
Oh, and the Alfa 8C
It did but then it pretty much a Ferrari with a fiat badge.
@@andreaaltana2176 what are you on about?? We are talking about the fiat Dino not the Lancia. Read the original comment that I'm responding to before responding to me numb nuts..
Great video, I was a big Lancia fan and had 5. I had the pleasure of driving a Thema turbo and a Montecarlo as loan cars on a couple of occasions while the dealer serviced my Gamma coupe.
Loved my Thema, I had the 2.0 16 valve Turbo - It was breathed on and very quick. Alcantara interior.. The Integrale engine basically but just front wheel drive. I believe the bodyshell was gulvanised up to the window line on those models.
One of my dream cars when I was a boy because I had a poster of the donator of the engine above my bed (Ferrari 308).
A decade later a funky car collector in the neighborhood had one parked in the garden. Brings back memories these videos. Thx Harry!
Alfa 164 Q4
Maserati Quattroporte IV
Lancia Thema 8.32
And the Saab 9000.
Good evening I own 2 lancia Them a 8.32 and need the gasoline pump from Bosch. Can you tell me where you got them? My email address is y.aslanhan@gmail.com. Many Thanks
Well said Sir! Superb choices but who would be brave enough to own the Mk 4 Maserati Four-Door? They look great though, even today. On the Alfa, have owned several smaller sallons but didn't take the chance to buy a 164 Q4 for 1500 quid in the mid 2000s...was low mileage too....think I had two 33s and a 145 (all Cloverleaf) at the time so passed on it. A friend of mine and his brother had 2 8.32s between them until 4-5 years ago when they sold them. I think they are worth quite a bit more now. Love that spoiler - it was operated by one of the switchgear arms.
+ Gamma Coupe!!
Living in the US (and born in 1984) I had never heard of the 8:32. What a wonderful wolf in sheep's clothing! The noise alone makes it worth it. Thanks Harry!
Most impressive thing about the headrest, is that italian electrics still work after all those years... truly astonishing
whats truly astonishing is what an idiot you are
@@edombre2961 was there any need for that comment?
@@johnnyboy1586 was there any need to crack the same old, tired, joke about italian unreliability?
The Thema was very rare in SA but I managed to own 2. First was the 8v non-turbo which was very under-powered. Then when I saw an I.E. 16v Turbo I jumped at it. The Turbo is not as special as the 8:32 but it is almost as quick, and a lot cheaper to run. One of the most exclusive cars I've owned, and a lot better than most critics seem to say it is. Fast cruiser and the ex used to moan about the speed until she used it one night and phoned to say she was doing 180 down the motorway and couldn't feel it.
This is another Classic Harry Car - fantastic.
You need to keep this 4 door super saloon thing going, especially after seeing the Lotus Carlton in the back ground, drool.
I was lucky enough to run into one of the 8.32s by accident. I had just bought a 93 Thema 2.0 16V turbo (series 3) and since I worked in Oslo at the time, I popped in on the original importer to have a chat about parts and what not. When I walked into their shop they were working on an 8.32. Apparently the leather dash had shrunk, which was fascinating in itself, but they let me walk around it and even poke at things despite working on it. True enthusiasts they were (and I do believe it was the shop owner's car). Needless to say I spent much more time in that shop than I had planned for, and nearly missed my flight back home! Oh, and while my '93 Thema was a lovely car the number of electrical issues and quirks it had for a third series production run was staggering!
Always loved these things ever since I saw it mentioned on top gear. Harry doing this car justice 😍
Harry is the only person which will enjoy and review even a supermarket trolley with a V8 engine and all of us will just sit and watch.
Excellent review, amazing sound interesting car.
Thanks Harry !
Cheers.
Harry made a video of the car, loving it. Now 8.32 prices in the UK are skyrocketing :D
I recall being in Italy in 1986 and near the Ferrari test track at Fiorano and hearing this car being tested. It was the first V8 we'd heard for weeks. Just glorious!
Many thanks for this Harry, wonderful machine. You've got to feature an Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 which was also very special, or a QV at least, to do it justice, since you've forgotten to mention it in the review when talking about the type 4 platform!
The channel is excellent. The attention to detail, the enthusiasm that goes into each review, is impressively evident. I recommend anyone who hasn't signed up yet to do so. May those who bring quality content be valued.
Excellent car & video. Many thanks for bringing us this beauty from the '80s. There were 4 cars sharing the same frame: the SAAB 9000, this Lancia, the Fiat Croma and the Alfa Romeo 164. There is no need to mention which of them were the most beautiful, thanks to the italian designers and especially pininfarina
Beautiful artistry of subtle intelligence of machinery, Harry sir... I am 57 yrs old 🗝️, my late father was a machanic so I absolutely appreciate and solitary enjoy watching avidly your channel, thanks again as always good sir. Keep feeding us the joy.
Remember seing one of these in 91 or 92 at a Lancia showroom. The 2nd I´ve seen was 6 months ago and it was part of a private collection. Always loved the magic aura of a Ferrari engine in a Thema.
Harry I've had 17 lancia,s in my time 4 of them being thema,s loved them all.when I was 12 my father bought his first lancia .a beta 2.0 saloon and that is what got me into Italian cars lancia and alfa love them all.
Fantastic review from Harry; love the more obscure cars that you don't normally get to see. That rear spoiler is mad!
The E38 BMW 7 Series had rear headrests (on higher specced models) that would automatically electrically raise when the respective seat belt was fastened, then lower again as soon as the belt was unbuckled.
Just like the w220/1/2 S-classe and I'm nog surre but VW Phantom?
That spoiler was the first such motorized spoiler
Lovely car from an era when Italian car makers were still at the top of their game. Thanks for the video👍
I always had a fascination for this car. When I was a young lad I had a car magazine with the test drive of this model and I fell in love with it first time I saw it.
Amazingly, they're super cheap to buy. Under 20 grand buys a great low mileage model. I imagine that maintaining one is the costliest part. Lancias aren't know for their reliability, especially having specific Ferrari parts.
Viriatvs of Lvsitania Yeah me too, always been interested in it. I've never seen one and they must be at there cheapest now but I wouldn't like to pay for any major work on one.
One of my childhood heroes, this car. Thank you, Harry.
WOW that trully is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Brilliant italian thinking. Cheers from México!
Your channel is like a rare Italian car, it stirs up emotions like envy, lust, exhilaration (acceleration?), and of course love. Thank you very much.
This was the Quadrifoglio of its time
Different brands mate
A very apt comparison, between different generations
Quadrifoglio of the time was Alfa 164 Q4 :)
Q4 was a Busso V6 and AWD. Different animal. If he refers to today's Quadrifoglio, it's a good analogy given the shared V8 with Ferrari know-how.
I agree, though the current Guilia Q is a more overtly sporting. At least Ferrari is still allowing versions of their engines to be used in other Italian cars. This is the only one now, though?
When I see one of the cars, I always think of Sir Stirling Moss. When Stirling was the after-dinner speaker at a Lancia Motor Club (several years ago) he rushed over to view an 8.32 in the car park and excitedly asked the owner to show the boot-lid spoiler and then asked if he could operate it himself. It was charming moment of Stirling's child-like enthusiasm.
The V8 in the 8:32 doesn't have the characteristic high-pitched engine note of the 308/Mondial because the crankshaft was modified from flat-plane to 90-degree resulting in different firing order and a more muscle-car tone - legend says that this was done to differentiate the 8:32 from the typical Ferrari V8 sound, but some facts also point at a more refined engine balance and space constraints in the engine bay.
The engine was retuned from the original to have a more useful power curve for a family saloon. Hence it's more refined than Harry expected. You drive it round in a normal rev range, you don't need to ring its neck to get the most performance out of it.
I don't think changing the crank timing will have much impact on the external size, the big ends are still going to go round in the same circle ;-)
The ultimate sleeper car, I would have never imagined a Ferrari V8 under that bonnet. Beautiful little thing!
harry has a soft spot for Lancia.
Greg J As we all should ;)
I finally see the video of 1 of my childhood dream cars, super expensive latin saloon. It was very famous in Japan, almost 2.5 times more expensive than normal thema. Thank you sir!
Lancia will always have a special place, in my heart. 😍😍😍
Wow talk about a blast from the past. I had a Delta HF Turbo ie in the early nineties and my boss had a lovey maroon 2.0 turbo Thema. Lancia’s were so different to anything else about. And fast!! Thanks for the video and what a car!
Get one Harry ! I remember years ago in Ayr where I lived near one used to drive around and I lusted after it so much and all my mates were like nah we want cosworths.
who else but harry would bring us such an in depth review of such a cool car, love coming home to a new upload
Sad for Lancia, I had 2 Kappa, they were amazing cars, fast, reliable and exotic. It was a pleasure to drive. Unfortunately FCA decided to kill Lancia.
We have that half-man Marchionne to thank for the fact that the glorious house of Lancia, no longer exists.
Exactly when I heard this V8 sound recorded inside Lancia, I have to say is very similar to Porsche 928.
What a great cars.
Thank you for showing this beautiful car.
Lancia's demise is a friggin shame. Such a great badge with so many iconic cars. And the 8-32 wouldn't even make my top 5 of the coolest Lancias ... even though it is a rather cool ride.
A Lancia Beta 2.0 Coupe was one of my first cars back in the mid-80s. I absolutely loved it. It had everything you would associate with driving an Italian car: It was an exercise in style and panache over practicality and common sense. The Lancias and Alfa Romeos of this period (like the GTV V6) may have been flawed, but driving them was always such a joy and an adventure.
My second car was a Beta Coupe 1600. It was so luxurious and exotic compared with the competition, Ford Capri anyone? I loved the way the twin cam engine would rev so smoothly to the redline. It was FWD but don't be fooled, Lancia knew how to engineer their cars and it certainly handled.
Now almost 40 years later I have another.
OMG that car is amazing, that spoiler is the most amazing thing I've ever seen, why don't more cars do that?
Its expensive
Thanks Harry, for a great episode. Sorry for the plug. If anyone's interested in a parts car, I have one Thema 8.32 for spares. Still with working engine/basically all complete.
Lancia, with a Ferrari engine that sounds like a Maserati.
Awesome combination.
Harry as you can see from the comments the people that KNOW about these have left This is a True Legend you have made my day. I've had 2 Themas in the past. An 1988 8v Turbo series 1 and a 1994 16v Turbo LS series 2. Both were quick but the series 2 was something else. Nobody ever knew what it was and it surprised anyone who fancied their chances at the lights. But the 8.32 is the Holy Grail Amazing video Harry thanks again would Love to see you do a series 2 16v Turbo video. Great Stuff.
Harry, I hope I haven't missed one of your videos. Would you consider getting hold of a Rover P5B or P6B and do a review of it? They're such iconic British cars that have gotten little recognition. Food for thought.
YES PLEASE! My heart beats strongest for the P6, but i'd sure watch a P5 video as well :)
Another vote for that!
The P5 has to be one of the most beautiful cars ever built
Great idea. I had a P6, lovely thing, always wanted a P5B.
There's a P5B near me in Victoria, British Columbia (Menzies St, if anyone wants to check it out). It's in terrible shape.
This is so spooky,I was only talking to someone about this car a few days ago and it shows up on video feed.I can’t get enough of Harry’s videos,even watch the farm series sometimes.
My uncle had one 1990'Ish,Always regretted selling
That V8 rumble throughout the video, absolutely lovely!
Another great review Harry! I would love to see a review of the older BMW M-cars like the e34, e28, and e36.
he doesnt have any
Once I saw the photo of the black Lotus Carlton (Omega), I can't stop thinking how awesome it'd be, if we could see your take on that absolute beast of a sedan. Love this channel!
Enzo Ferrari's last personal car.
That’s a pub quiz tie break question 👍
I love that you feel honored to drive it...you drive everything but it IS a special thing.
Be very interesting to see a video of Lotus Carlton to compare with. Great video as ever.
The Carlton was a different beast. Performance wise, it will crush any thema.
@@whisperdancer 0 to 60 lotus carlton has it by over 1 second however 0 to 100mph is a match from the stats I can find. There aren't lots of cars to compare against from that era hence my general interest.
No comparison at all, the 8.32 is a nice and pleasant car overall but when you try to push a little bit its limits come out very soon being really nose eavy: is just not done for that. While the Lotus Omega is much more balanced, way faster and overall just a better drivers car
Lee Morson Carlton is faster by almost 2 seconds from 0-60 and more than 5 seconds from 0-100mph. There is really no comparison possible. The Carlton was a beast compared to the Lancia. But I would take the 8.32...
cossie would nail the lot
Thank you! Wonderful sound!!!
Eagerly waiting to see a review of the Lotus Carlton.
Thanks for another great video. my taxi driver in Germany had one of these for a while: I can remember surprise the first time he accelerated onto the autobahn, glorious sound!
#MakeLanciaGreatAgain
So refreshing to watch someone with an actual passion for cars!
Lovely car! What an effort to fit a cross plane crankshaft. Worth it for the noise alone, but also smoother than a flat plane. Looking forward to a video from that super saloon meet!
This car epitomises everything I've come to love about this channel. Bravo Harry!