Who will come a warring? Who will come a warring? Who will come a warring with Marlborough with me? And they sang as they marched through the streets of Rochester, who will come a warring with Marlborough with me? The song is called Rochester. Rochester was the embarkation point in Kent for troops going to reinforce the Duke of Marlborough.
Australia founded 1788, This tune / song predates the first landing in Van Diemen's Land by DECADES. - The tune was 'transported' by soldiers & sailors, had new words added by 'Waltzing Matilda' author Banjo Patterson (a close friend of 'Breaker Morant'), who also penned the poem 'The man from Snowy River (made into a film and a 65 episode TV series, which featured Olivia Newton John in a small role), know your facts Chaps.
Tasman landed in Van Diemen's Land---- or at least the ship's carpenter did--- in 1642. First fleet landed in Port Jackson in 1788. First settlement in Van Diemen's Land , later Tasmania . was in 1804. Know your Facts mate
Dude... this is not an 18th century song. None of the language conforms with 18th century language. The tune might have been older than when Banjo Patterson wrote the lyrics, but that's really all we know about it. Neither then tune or the lyrics to the Bold Fusilier/Gay Fusilier has been dated, or could be dated, and there are no written accounts to support it. The most likely explanation is the tune is older than the lyrics to both, and two separate people adapted the tune to lyrics they've written, which is not at all uncommon back in those days. Undoubtedly Banjo Patterson didn't write the tune, nor did he ever claim that he did. He wasn't a musician, he was a poet, he only wrote the lyrics. He got the tune from MacPherson who heard it at the racetracks. MacPherson only heard the tune, but didn't know its origins, and she didn't hear it from the British, she heard it from a Scottish band. Also the tune was linked with Go to the Devil and Shake Yourself, which was a tune from around the same time, the Scots claim that tune. But the tune definitely didn't come from The Bold Fusilier, which undoubtedly did not originate in the 18th Century as you are suggested. Also, Patterson's Waltzing Matilda was written at the turn of the 20th century. The Bold Fusilier appears to have been written during the middle of the 20th century. Waltzing Matilda by all historical records appears to predate Waltzing Matilda.
@@makavelidon5911 The earliest record of the existence of “The Gay/Bold Fusilier” is the anecdotal evidence that it was sung during the Boer War. There is no record of what words the Brits sang and no record of the tune that they sang it to. The origin of the first verse of the song is unknown. The rest of the verses were written by Peter Coe in the 1970’s, in the era of the end of the Vietnam War. If you have any evidence of the existence of the song before 1900, please supply it. The history of the music of Waltzing Matilda is very clear. In 1806 Scotsman, James Barr, set Robert Tannahil’s poem, “Thou Bonnie Wood o’ Craigielea” to music in a 16 bar song using four 4 bar phrases, musical form ABCD. In 1893 English born Australian, Thomas Bulch composed a marching band arrangement, the march “Craigielea" using Barr’s song as the opening theme. Bulch dropped out the second phrase of the verse and repeated the first, musical form AABC. th-cam.com/video/-ZWffHl-p0I/w-d-xo.html In 1894 Christina Macpherson, the sister of the “squatter mounted on his thoroughbred”, heard the march “Craigielea" played at the Warrnambool races. She remembered the AAB section of the song and made up her version using the form AABA, popular American style. In 1895 Christina played her tune by ear on an autoharp at a gathering in Winton, Queensland. Paterson was present and offered to write some words for her tune. This tune was not written down until some months later and was never published. trishansoz.com/trishansoz/waltzing-matilda/christina-macpherson.html In 1903, Marie Cowan was commissioned by the Inglis Tea Company to turn Waltzing Matilda into an advertising jingle for Billie Tea. Marie made changes to Banjo’s words and Christina’s tune but kept the same chord progression and form AABA. This is the music used in the upload. nla.gov.au/nla.obj-166639875/view?partId=nla.obj-166639888#page/n0/mode/1up William, please quote RELEVANT facts and supply evidence for your assertions.
This is a song about the Wars of the Spanish Succession (1700-1714), as John Churchill, 1st Duke of Marlborough is marching his men thru the low countries on his way to his victories at Blenheim and Ramillies.
@@rachaelbean1439 G'day Rachael - "Kookaburra Sits In The Old Gum Tree was written by Melbourne teacher Marion Sinclair for a Girl Guides jamboree in 1934 and has been sung by generations of Australian children ever since." www.abc.net.au/news/2010-02-04/men-at-work-plundered-kookaburra-riff-court/321624 and adb.anu.edu.au/biography/sinclair-marion-15924 Looks like Sinclair's original composition . . .
No, it's in Rochester NY, because the North Country was the French territory, the Regiments were in Canada (Queen Patricia's Horse and Queen's Fusiliers) during the French and Indian War
@@tedhubertcrusio372 the song refers to the Duke of Marlborough, an English General in the War of Spanish Succession. He died in 1722, 66 years before Rochester, NY was founded.
General John Churchill who was later rewarded with a peerage for his victories and became the 1st Duke of Marlborough. The palace which he built with his rewards from a grateful nation, was named after his most famous of victories. Blenheim. He was Winston Churchill’s ancestor. Winston was born at Blenheim palace. Hitler’s plan for after the invasion of Britain was to establish his Governor at Blenheim palace in order to symbolically return the humiliation for the total defeat over the Bavarian forces at the battle of Blenheim and to stick it to Winston Churchill.
@@davidcockayne3381 Some people, mainly Americans, not only misspell and mispronounce the name, but also have no clue that it is a surname and a name for a small market town in Wiltshire from where the family name originates. They just think it’s the name for a brand of cigarets
![Sing with Karl - Marching Through Rochester [German Version][+ English Translation]](/img/n.gif)
Been looking for this song since seeing it on Sharpe. Thanks!
Who will come a warring? Who will come a warring? Who will come a warring with Marlborough with me? And they sang as they marched through the streets of Rochester, who will come a warring with Marlborough with me? The song is called Rochester. Rochester was the embarkation point in Kent for troops going to reinforce the Duke of Marlborough.
good job this is one of the first versions that I have found good.
If you haven't already, check out the rendition by Strawhead: th-cam.com/video/05UWyhfz030/w-d-xo.html
Amazingly beautiful, love from Pennsylvania. God Save the king!🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Australia founded 1788, This tune / song predates the first landing in Van Diemen's Land by DECADES. - The tune was 'transported' by soldiers & sailors, had new words added by 'Waltzing Matilda' author Banjo Patterson (a close friend of 'Breaker Morant'), who also penned the poem 'The man from Snowy River (made into a film and a 65 episode TV series, which featured Olivia Newton John in a small role), know your facts Chaps.
Tasman landed in Van Diemen's Land---- or at least the ship's carpenter did--- in 1642. First fleet landed in Port Jackson in 1788. First settlement in Van Diemen's Land , later Tasmania . was in 1804. Know your Facts mate
Dude... this is not an 18th century song. None of the language conforms with 18th century language. The tune might have been older than when Banjo Patterson wrote the lyrics, but that's really all we know about it. Neither then tune or the lyrics to the Bold Fusilier/Gay Fusilier has been dated, or could be dated, and there are no written accounts to support it. The most likely explanation is the tune is older than the lyrics to both, and two separate people adapted the tune to lyrics they've written, which is not at all uncommon back in those days.
Undoubtedly Banjo Patterson didn't write the tune, nor did he ever claim that he did. He wasn't a musician, he was a poet, he only wrote the lyrics. He got the tune from MacPherson who heard it at the racetracks. MacPherson only heard the tune, but didn't know its origins, and she didn't hear it from the British, she heard it from a Scottish band. Also the tune was linked with Go to the Devil and Shake Yourself, which was a tune from around the same time, the Scots claim that tune.
But the tune definitely didn't come from The Bold Fusilier, which undoubtedly did not originate in the 18th Century as you are suggested. Also, Patterson's Waltzing Matilda was written at the turn of the 20th century. The Bold Fusilier appears to have been written during the middle of the 20th century. Waltzing Matilda by all historical records appears to predate Waltzing Matilda.
@@makavelidon5911 The earliest record of the existence of “The Gay/Bold Fusilier” is the anecdotal evidence that it was sung during the Boer War. There is no record of what words the Brits sang and no record of the tune that they sang it to. The origin of the first verse of the song is unknown. The rest of the verses were written by Peter Coe in the 1970’s, in the era of the end of the Vietnam War. If you have any evidence of the existence of the song before 1900, please supply it.
The history of the music of Waltzing Matilda is very clear. In 1806 Scotsman, James Barr, set Robert Tannahil’s poem, “Thou Bonnie Wood o’ Craigielea” to music in a 16 bar song using four 4 bar phrases, musical form ABCD. In 1893 English born Australian, Thomas Bulch composed a marching band arrangement, the march “Craigielea" using Barr’s song as the opening theme. Bulch dropped out the second phrase of the verse and repeated the first, musical form AABC.
th-cam.com/video/-ZWffHl-p0I/w-d-xo.html
In 1894 Christina Macpherson, the sister of the “squatter mounted on his thoroughbred”, heard the march “Craigielea" played at the Warrnambool races. She remembered the AAB section of the song and made up her version using the form AABA, popular American style. In 1895 Christina played her tune by ear on an autoharp at a gathering in Winton, Queensland. Paterson was present and offered to write some words for her tune. This tune was not written down until some months later and was never published.
trishansoz.com/trishansoz/waltzing-matilda/christina-macpherson.html
In 1903, Marie Cowan was commissioned by the Inglis Tea Company to turn Waltzing Matilda into an advertising jingle for Billie Tea. Marie made changes to Banjo’s words and Christina’s tune but kept the same chord progression and form AABA. This is the music used in the upload.
nla.gov.au/nla.obj-166639875/view?partId=nla.obj-166639888#page/n0/mode/1up
William, please quote RELEVANT facts and supply evidence for your assertions.
This is a song about the Wars of the Spanish Succession (1700-1714), as John Churchill, 1st Duke of Marlborough is marching his men thru the low countries on his way to his victories at Blenheim and Ramillies.
With respect, I think you are being a bit picky here. The main thrust of his comment was to do with the melody being popular before Waltzing Matilda.
Beautifull! Love from France
artist is Holdstock & Macleod
Waltzing Matilda
yes, but not the original tune used by Banjo Paterson. That was "Thou Bonnie Wood of Craigielee"
@@nigelholmes9332 true
Oh my,gosh. I just never knew Waltzing Matilda was not an original tune. Dont tell me Kookaburra up a gum tree is a UK soldier tune too.
@@rachaelbean1439 G'day Rachael - "Kookaburra Sits In The Old Gum Tree was written by Melbourne teacher Marion Sinclair for a Girl Guides jamboree in 1934 and has been sung by generations of Australian children ever since." www.abc.net.au/news/2010-02-04/men-at-work-plundered-kookaburra-riff-court/321624
and adb.anu.edu.au/biography/sinclair-marion-15924 Looks like Sinclair's original composition . . .
@@rachaelbean1439 It is. Evidence point to this song being a parody of Waltzing Matilda
Nice
Im assumin this is about the Welch Fusiliers,
Probably as they were with Marlborough through most of his campaigns however why they would be recruiting in Kent is anyone's guess
Rule Britannia!
Ken john peel....
Rochester in Kent or Rochester in New York State ?
Rochester in kent
No, it's in Rochester NY, because the North Country was the French territory, the Regiments were in Canada (Queen Patricia's Horse and Queen's Fusiliers) during the French and Indian War
It is Rochester, Kent, England. The North Country is the Wars of the Spanish Succession.
@@tedhubertcrusio372 the song refers to the Duke of Marlborough, an English General in the War of Spanish Succession. He died in 1722, 66 years before Rochester, NY was founded.
Well isn't this here a good find if I don't say so myself, so I do.
It is, so it is!
Waltzing Matilda!
No
Marlbro? Brand of cigarettes, surely not?
The Duke of Marlborough was the head of the army in the War of Spanish Succession.
@@greedycapitalist8590 An army, not the army. Not entirely sure what that has to do with the mispronunciation of his name in the video, though.
General John Churchill who was later rewarded with a peerage for his victories and became the 1st Duke of Marlborough. The palace which he built with his rewards from a grateful nation, was named after his most famous of victories. Blenheim.
He was Winston Churchill’s ancestor. Winston was born at Blenheim palace. Hitler’s plan for after the invasion of Britain was to establish his Governor at Blenheim palace in order to symbolically return the humiliation for the total defeat over the Bavarian forces at the battle of Blenheim and to stick it to Winston Churchill.
@@likeitout All true, but still not sure what it has to do with the mispronunciation of his name in the video.
@@davidcockayne3381 Some people, mainly Americans, not only misspell and mispronounce the name, but also have no clue that it is a surname and a name for a small market town in Wiltshire from where the family name originates. They just think it’s the name for a brand of cigarets