I TRY to BREAK it! Truss screw vs Hurricane Tie

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024

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  • @moredesignbuild
    @moredesignbuild  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    We never pulled the hurricane tie until it broke. When we reached ~1000lbs of uplift I decided to not go any further.
    The CAMO Truss Screw broke at ~850lbs which is almost 300lbs over the specs.
    What’s your thoughts?

    • @billbertagnoli4226
      @billbertagnoli4226 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I failed a framing inspection due
      To the use of truss screws. The
      Local building inspector would
      Not approved the build without
      The hurricane straps. Soo... I used both. I believe he was
      Correctly following Michigan
      Code at the time. It may be
      Different now.

    • @moredesignbuild
      @moredesignbuild  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@billbertagnoli4226 When was that? They’re approved in all states 👌🏼

    • @billbertagnoli4226
      @billbertagnoli4226 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@moredesignbuild I'm 74 and
      Haven't kept track of code since
      I retired in 2012. The instance I
      Referenced was in 2007. I used
      The screws after researching
      Their holding power and felt
      They would make code. They
      Didn't and I installed the Simpson
      Straps. I believe that at the time
      Screws were not permitted for
      Use on the straps. I'm glad codes
      Have changed. Great time saver.

    • @moredesignbuild
      @moredesignbuild  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@billbertagnoli4226 Thanks for your story and interesting to hear.
      Finally we take small steps forward to improve and approve new techniques and products in the trades.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @stevenmackey789
    @stevenmackey789 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Simpson load values are the result of a safety factor of 3 being applied to the worst tested values. So in almost all cases you will get better than listed performance. Also, they are designed for a specific load duration. You basically did a sustained max load test.

    • @moredesignbuild
      @moredesignbuild  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I got a lot of questions about this test and will do another one when I have time.
      It’s always fun trying to break stuff.
      Thanks for your input 👌🏽

  • @effthegop
    @effthegop 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    10 screws going in perpendicular as opposed to one screw going in at a 45 degree angle.
    The result is what I thought it would be. I hate the task of installing straps but it is a good idea to do so.

    • @kai6424
      @kai6424 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree with you. If you live in a place where there are hurricanes/tornados! Way over kill anywhere else.

  • @employersstory-behindthesc2159
    @employersstory-behindthesc2159 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fun with tests! More of this please!

    • @moredesignbuild
      @moredesignbuild  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More tests will come, that’s for sure!

  • @AlexandMaggie07
    @AlexandMaggie07 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for posting the link. Very impressed with the Truss Screw. You've earned a subscription and a follow 🎉

  • @bellarosegroup
    @bellarosegroup 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I did look like the strap was further away from the screw giving more leverage than on the hurricane tie. It makes sense the tie would be stronger though, more steel.

    • @moredesignbuild
      @moredesignbuild  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good point! We did this just for fun but I think I need to do more testing like this.

  • @dougcarlson6800
    @dougcarlson6800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are different types of apps for the truss screws. You showed it in withdraw category not in sheer or toenail category. Simpson uses an on average ten to twenty reduction of their test results for their charts 4:06 .

  • @treefarm3288
    @treefarm3288 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here in North Queensland I used 'triple grips', which are fixed in three directions, for both joists and roof purlins and rafters. They have held through three powerful cyclones, the worst being 'TC Larry', when one rafter split lengthwise. All timber is highest rated hardwood (46).

    • @jasonruff1270
      @jasonruff1270 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why would you use hardwood, it's brittle

    • @treefarm3288
      @treefarm3288 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jasonruff1270 30 species of termites in North Queensland.

    • @jasonruff1270
      @jasonruff1270 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@treefarm3288 why not use treated wood then?

  • @atyt11
    @atyt11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    according to some, 8 hurricane straps per connection is better. OR....just build the entire house out of hurricane straps, leave out the wood.

  • @cstarbuilt3338
    @cstarbuilt3338 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That screw didn’t have enough imbedded

  • @garrett6371
    @garrett6371 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think I'll use both.

    • @moredesignbuild
      @moredesignbuild  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No need for both. You’ll pass inspection with one of them.

  • @ravinbuilders
    @ravinbuilders 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The screw was very low in the beam though. 4” down from the beam top gives you 3.5” penetration. Move that screw up me donut again 😂😂 nice job dude

    • @moredesignbuild
      @moredesignbuild  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good point Kevin 👌🏼
      I’ll do more tests but I’m still happy with the result. CAMO pass the test 🤘🏼😎

  • @baymoe1
    @baymoe1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do both (truss screw and hurricane) until failure.

    • @moredesignbuild
      @moredesignbuild  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I already have a list of different scenarios to test and your option is added to the list 👍🏼

  • @artman2119
    @artman2119 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you…

  • @brl5755
    @brl5755 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Truss screw also cleaner and saves labor

    • @moredesignbuild
      @moredesignbuild  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I totally agree 👍🏼

    • @Dustylittledigga
      @Dustylittledigga 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow really impressive. Truss screw for the win. For the price point ,ease of use and time.

  • @MrTooTechnical
    @MrTooTechnical 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fuking awesome. I love hurricane ties. Could you retry the test with 10d Simpson sds screws vs the 9d that you used in this vid?? Thanks.

    • @moredesignbuild
      @moredesignbuild  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ll definitely do more tests like this! It’s actually really fun 😃

  • @lenux21
    @lenux21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah id rather use a tie all day long of a single or even double screw tie in

  • @bugtusslealien3931
    @bugtusslealien3931 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you'[[ stay with the truss screw and not the strap? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Time and money instead of quality.......

    • @moredesignbuild
      @moredesignbuild  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then you don’t see the numbers. The truss screw holds more than it’s rated for and it also holds more than the straps are rated for. Yes, they break before the straps, but that’s not the point.
      Thanks for watching 😃