India’s Nagaland crisis: Muivah’s ambition at 86 runs into ethnicity, geography demography & history
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Despite a framework agreement five years ago, the peace process in Nagaland is in a crisis. In episode 555 of Cut The Clutter, Shekhar Gupta explains Muivah's rise to power, his ambition and complications of diverse tribes, geography, demography & history.
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Read Khekiye K. Sema's article in Nagaland Post
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Watch episode 301 of Cut The Clutter on the Naga peace accord & other Indian insurgencies
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Watch episode 304 of Cut The Clutter on the complex history of Nagaland
• A primer on Nagaland, ...
Read The Hindu's article on Naga peace process
www.thehindu.com/opinion/edit...
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Yes you will get max support if you prove to be unbiased and do not dance to the tunes of anti India forces
I am going to support but with know any truth don't say anything because today some media houses only have one propaganda that against India if you do that then is better don't hope for support from us.
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@@vijayawadac5645 q11q1
I like how Sir Shekhar Gupta casually naming the major tribes like a typical Naga without even looking at it 😁
😀😀
GUPTAJI KNOWS EVERYTHING HE S A GLOBAL CITIZEN HAHA
Ha ha. Thanks Sheniehu. Do keep writing in.
@@ThePrintIndia Will surely keep following 👍
@@sauravdebnatj2184 haha Indeed he is
Sir,
I visited Nagaland when Hornbill culture festival was going on in 2018. In this festival from whole Nagaland all tribes will come n show their cultural diversity. It was really nice to see their craft n rich culture. These people are peace loving. Their language is also very soft, very less loud words. They really deserve peace ✌️. I hope this matter will get settled in peaceful manner.
You have captured the whole Nagaland crisis in very good way. Keep it up n keep doing. We are ready to listen to you for an hour also.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Thank you brother. Appreciate for learning about us and visiting Nagaland.
And my Father said maths was complicated 🤦
Being a Manipuri I am right now awestruck by this indepth knowledgeable analysis of the Naga problem. I assure you even the local experts can't do a better job than this.
We will not take your imphal valley. Too small for us
@@kenny87ification have you ever been to NE ?
@@josephjames859 i guess the correct native pronounciation is Tangkhool, but many non-Tangkhuls in Imphal pronounced it as taangkhul without the extra "a" 😀
@@kenny87ification ??
@warthong keep dreaming... but someday you have to wake up n realise it was just a happy dream. More like you see your crush on your dream...
This topic seems bit alien . It's a shame we know more about other countries affairs than our own.
Nagaland is still a state where parallel govt runs by naga groups. If such groups are collecting money for development why is Nagaland still so backward in many human development index as pointed by R N Ravi.
@Sri Ram Prasanna Arikapalli It is not that simple sir.
Thanks
Yes, it is indeed a shame that Northerners are more interested in knowing all there's to know about Pakistan than in knowing about South India or Northeast India.
@@ilandhiraiyannedunjeralaad7730 the national media is to be blamed coz they supply us info.
The legendary footballer and doctor, Dr. Talimeren Ao was the first captain of Indian Football team, and represented India in the 1948 Summer Olympics. He was from Nagaland. Respect and salute this legend 🙏
It's a pity that India is a slave to cricket.
@ijk Doesn't help to be a slave to anyone or anything.
@@imayavarambannedunjezhiyan5222 ye, footbal is love💚
Hatsoff guruji😀 none of the journalist have guts to speak about this issue due to overly complex & old... but you've made series of videos.
lets hope and pray for the solution at the earliest.
Nagas of Nagaland thirst for the peace and normal human living.
Hey Imkum. Thanks for writing in.
Nagas of Nagaland cannot do anything for the Naga only Manipuri Naga can do anything for the center that's it
@@willkam4275 firstly repay all the public money looted from Nagaland in the name nation tax (but got nothing till date), only after that we will discuss who's what capable of.
@@imkumdjamir9178 hey you Nagaland is a Head hunter haha very funny do you know who is the Real Head hunter the Real Head hunter is Manipuri Naga we are Kachari mixed with Bengali from Bangladesh but now we call ourselves a Naga bullshit.., Nagaland is a peaceful State but in Manipur Naga is not peace we need development like you that's why NSCN muivah started this kind of extortion in the name of Nagaland haha and lastly we Manipur Naga don't want Independence bro we want only Freedom and development only for Manipur Naga not for Nagaland you Nagaland all people are very funny what you want you get state already you get kohima capital of Nagaland you get big town dimapur so many why don't you happy for these things bro but for us we don't have anything bro we need development like you that's it 😂😂😂
@@willkam4275 Manipur naga should take them out of Nagaland.... else there will be bloody consequences.
Seems, "Solution to Nagaland, Dissolution in Manipur" very soon.
No usage of graphics to declutter makes it very difficult to understand. For example, it would be helpful to show the districts/places on the map to understand the geography
@SG please note
Perhaps he's fed up with making them a part of the video just to remove it, correct it and re-upload it. His editor isn't that good, you see.
@@ilandhiraiyannedunjeralaad7730 your name means one who rules the seas?
@@jaanemandilruba5279 Actually, it means Lord of gentle waves. And gentle waves are only found in deep seas. And so, it does mean the ruler of the seas.
@@ilandhiraiyannedunjeralaad7730 bro what language is this?
Haven't seen such an honest and detailed account of the Indo-Naga peace talk from a national electronic media till date. NE people especially from Manipur and Nagaland must be pretty familiar of it. A big round of applause for SG and his team for such a well researched post.
Thank you for appreciating our work. Do keep following us.
He was at ground level during those insurgency times
Why do INDIA fight for Freedom ?
~ Why do NAGA fight for Freedom ?
With the famous phrase,
"man is born free, but he is everywhere in chains,"
- Rousseau.
I support free Nagaland
Somalia is also the land of free 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@hemangshrivastava9561 !!!
~ God Bless You.
@@hemangshrivastava9561 liberandu spotted
@@mashunhunphunawungashi7952 it's wrong to compare india with Britain. India is giving lot of tax reduction to North east .on the other hand we are giving more taxes than north east. Britain imposed heavy taxes on india and makes poor people poorer .and under British india faced worst famines. Just look at pictures of Bengal famines u can skeleton like kids. Does india treating 🤔 U people like that? No definitely not . It's not right to compare india and Britian. you people are actually getting more benefits than an average Indian tax payers. India itself a diverse secular country. It not made for a particular ethnicity. Every communities in india have their own unique history but still we all are indians. But what's the real problem of nagas?
Which NE brother wants to join me in appreciation for the amount of effort that went in covering this article. 👏🙌👏🙌👇👇👇
The legendary footballer and doctor, Dr. Talimeren Ao was the first captain of Indian Football team, and represented India in the 1948 Summer Olympics. He was from Nagaland. Respect and salute this legend 🙏
@Rohit Thaosen I kind of want this video to be liked and noticed, as many would relate NE gets little coverage. The Print has become a cornerstone amidst the hooliganism I see when I turn on my Tata sky. And this video just made me appreciate the channel even more.
Why only ne
We r from south india
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Superp analysis of the Naga imbroglio by Shekherji. We Nagas, in majority, have accepted the reality that there can be no independence, and unification of contiguous Naga areas. We just hope that the Government of India is utmost sincere and ever trying to solve this prolong struggle and bring it to an honourable conclusion and relieve us from this nightmare that we have lived for the past seven decades.
Its unfortunate that so called mainland Indians have to repeatedly say to North East people that we love you. I enjoy diversity of NorthEast tribes and want to our text books to include more about NorthEast history and geography.
@Adam Romanov To the point 🙏 Best wishes to you from a proud Bhakt
@@kenny87ification bro seriously???. U r asking us to reject Christianity..u first reject Hinduism???...get a life bro..y u guys think u religion and culture is superior to others..these types of mentality is what keeping us divided...
best wishes for earliest resolution.
fellow indian!!
@@ajaxaj8470 How about including South Indian history and literature, too?
*ThePrint de-clutters Nagaland Political Issue, misses the mark on Naga Political Issue
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Founding Editor of ThePrint, Shekhar Gupta’s, Cut The Clutter episode 555 attempt to de-clutter Nagaland Crisis: how Muivah’s ambition at 86 runs into ethnicity, geography, demography & history falls short of comprehensive historical fact check.
The episode nonetheless lives up to the intended de-clutter topic i.e., Nagaland Crisis, seemingly not pulling the entire Naga historical political wagon, hard enough.
The Editor, out of the sheer entangled complexities, cherry picks, skips crucial chronology in his episode of the Naga Political issue by heavily banking his baseline argument on a retired IAS officer, Khekiye K. Sema’s opinion piece over Possible fall out after settlement based on framework agreement and remain oblivious to other hundreds of articles, journals written by Nagas from Nagaland (if that his his cherry picked intention) about the genesis of the Naga People’s struggle of Independence.
Shekhar Gupta, a respectable seasoned journalist of India, skips three key elements to his observation.
First, he skips the germination of Naga Political ambition to become a sovereign nation state from the very point in history of WW1, when the Naga Labour Crops from Northeast frontier, well before the formation of arbitrary Northeast states primarily, Nagaland, Arunachal Pradesh and Manipur, was followed by the Naga Club Memo to Simon Commission 1929, a historical landmark. Secondly Naga People’s declaration of Independence Day on August 14, 1947 as a free Nation. And thirdly, the Naga People’s ambition of her right to self-determination and self-govern saw the first Naga people’s Plebiscite of 16 May 1951 where 99.9% of the Nagas wanted independence from India.
Any attempt to reach the crux of the complex Naga political struggle without taking into consideration these crucial 3 historic events, would only suggest oversimplification, putting the card before the horse.
ThePrint Editor in all his good intention, unfortunately showed lack of research which is unlike him. Shekhar Gupta with his wealth of knowledge about the Northeast frontier, as it was called, is arguably someone who knows the political landscape of Northeast, especially the Naga complex politics, from his years of journalistic experience, which certainly isn’t impossible to de-clutter for a man of his stature. Therefore whether he speaks carelessly or accurately, whether biased or unbiased, his words commands journalistic truth and moves opinions.
Therefore, Shekhar Gupta’s approach on this episode in viewing the Naga Political struggle only from the prism of “Muivah’s ambitions”, followed by “Tangkhul cadres in NSCN IM”, followed by “Ukhrul” as the powerhouse of NSCN IM, and the community he speaks of at length in relation with “Nagaland political history”, and not “Naga Political history” without even a hint about other Naga tribes of Manipur, except quoting Tamenglong in footnote, clearly is a deliberate hamartia to NAGA POLITCIAL HISTORY!
The Editor’s de-cluttering of the vexed Naga Political issue in conjunction with the Framework Agreement, fails to talk about how and why Nagaland State was created in the first place. What 16 points agreement entailed for the Nagas in the larger political brinkmanship, ignoring scores of details of the 1989 fallout and massacre of NSCN IM by NSCN K. It would only have balanced his argument of 1975, Shillong Accord. Conveniently ignoring the decisive 1997 ceasefire agreement development between the Centre and NSCN IM, the fine details of the August 3, 2015 Framework Agreement and as to why the Governor cum interlocutor R N Ravi doctored the original Framwork Agreement signed in the presence of Defence Minister Rajnath Singh and PM Narendra Modi, how Mr Gupta deliberately ignored the Lt. Isak Chishi Swu, Chairman of NSCN IM from the Sumi tribe of Nagaland, and how the mediators became the negotiators and so forth.
But those crucial points were all skipped peevishly in this Cut The Clutter episode 555 and unlike Shakher Gupta, unfashionably picked on one Naga community as the sole villain out of his 29 odd minutes commentary, reducing Naga Political struggle of over 74 years into Nagaland state Political issue. When he precisely knows that, that isn’t exactly the underlying issue.
Funny how the Tangkhuls of Manipur are the only ones unhappy with this report. The people of Nagaland seem to be in agreement with it.
Agreed that Shekhar Gupta has skipped some of the information as described by you.
I would still not be dismissive of this article as he has lent representation to the struggle of Naga communities.
He has been in the North-East but one can easily discern that it takes few days to a week to accumulate such information even it were his team helping out with this.
Also some of points will only bring Negative attention. And forgive me I know as a Proud NE brother to another you could care less but this case is as sensitive as it gets.
As sad as the death of Sushant Singh Rajput was the mainstream media has dedicated hours repeating the same facts over and over with some channels being blind to major developments in the North-East regions.
But I do appreciate you taking the time to point out the shortcomings of the report and shedding the much needed attention to the missed information.
Can anyone suggest me a book which will help me understand this history, from the very beginning. Reading these comment section and watching the video Isn't helping me understand much!
@@Shreya-kx1yp You can read the book "Kuknalim, Naga Armed Resistance".
The author is unbiased and completely blunt on writing the situation as it is and doesn't try to justify any actions of either sides rather just portrays the information.
Here's the Amazon link to the book incase you're interested to check it out : www.amazon.in/Kuknalim-Naga-Armed-Resistance-Testimonies/dp/9388874919
There's another book called the Naga Saga which is currently not in production but is available as a book under a different name called "Nagaland and India The Blood and The Tears" and you can find this here : nagabasket.com/product/nagaland-and-india-the-blood-and-the-tears-same-as-naga-saga/
Pretty much on point with almost everything that has been articulated in this video. There is a HUGE difference between Nagas of Nagaland and Nagas of Manipur. A greater "Nagalim" is never going to happen because other states are not going to give up their territorial land. The Nagas of Nagaland accepted the Indian constitution in 63 followed by a few underground groups in 75 (Shillong Accord). The IM group is the only one who opposed this decision and called us "traitors" for wanting peace and security in the land. I don't ever want to see the day where a "Socialist" system runs the affairs of Naga people because there are plenty of examples of Communist/Socialist led countries where things have gone to hell and you add the Naga tribes into this ideology and it's going to create chaos. The IM group basically talks on behalf of Thangkul tribe and I'm just stating the facts and the Naga Hoho does not represent the tribes of the state of NAGALAND. It's a complicated situation but we uncomplicate it to come to a decision that is beneficial to all, if extortion and militant activities stop then Nagaland will start to prosper but we the people also need to elect responsible leaders who will take a strong stand against these anti social activities taking place. And there needs to be a lot of reforms on the laws because times have changed so we need to invest money in the sectors that we know the Nagas of Nagaland are exceptional at and we'll real the benefits later on in the future.
For my Naga brothers and sisters, do not blindly follow the sentiments of some groups because they say "freedom" for they have their own agendas.
What exactly are Nagas gonna do with this new independent country? If its formed, they will be surrounded by enemy states of india and myanmar, with china more than eager to crush their throats.
Devide and rule sucessfully initiated.
Hi Lanusanen, thanks for writing in and reflecting the sentiments of your land. A lot of social media energy goes in vituperative criticism of good media like The Print but at least this video by SG encouraged you to write in at length. Let us bank on hope n positive energy for growth in every sense of the word.
You are exactly saying how SC Jamir betrayed the Nagas by carving the state of Nagaland for few, and discriminating the rest. So less is the merit of such politics that Nagaland have to reserve all state jobs only for domicile with the fear of competition with others. Congratulations
@@maxipamei6227 I know the labels put on by people like you, we'll be called "anti naga" or "traitor" for standing up for the people of NAGALAND. Just because I say that I am against the NSCN doesn't mean I support everything the Naga Govt does, I believe we need a strong leader to govern the state. That being said I don't want anyone from IM at the helm of government I would rather be able to vote and choose who represents Nagaland. I know Manipur has its own problems when it comes to metieis and Nagas but that's the issue of Manipur not Nagaland. All these parts of Manipur could have been a part of Nagaland if people would have just stopped fighting and choose peace but I know the situation then was different and it maybe easy for me to say now but the people of Nagaland certainly went against everything and made a Nagaland despite those obstacles. Let the Nagas of Nagaland decide for themselves as well instead of groups with agendas. And also the Nagas of NAGALAND have done so much more to put Nagas on the map than any other state I believe, not throwing shade on any other tribe but in my humble opinion the only people who want this move are the ones outside Nagaland. We have our own problems in Nagaland but things will get better soon with the right people at the helm.
Thank you Shekhar, I m one of ur follower. Among the national journal, the print is one covers NE.
For new ones... Even brother's surname Khiamniungam is a major tribe in Nagaland!
I have been following this issues, since 2017. Many articles, many OpEds, and so many videos, SG Sir, When it comes to North East you set the bar too high. You really, really know this topic so well. *Please appreciate yourself in whichever way you like the most*
Thank You.
Hi! Thank you so much for tuning in!
Please include some diagram or pictograph to conclude such difficult topic.... So many similar sounding name actually cluttered mind instead
Non Naga indigenous tribes r treated like a second- class citizens in Nagaland. Look at the condition of Dimasas is Dimapur.
This episode of CTC is quite enlightening for me.I have read few articles here and there but couldn't really comprehend the complex issue. Wish it was longer!
See episodes 301 and 304 as well.
Hey Biak. Thanks for tuning in.
@@ThePrintIndia
Biak Ching Thank you, sg.
The real independence is wen Nagas are free from poverty, extortion, drugs, killings etc..
🙄as far as I know there is very less poverty here and there is no killing
@@goldenwings9902 really come to Nagaland and see it urself we can roam the whole place whole night and no danger
@@goldenwings9902 who tf you told you going out after 9 is dangerous ?
Nagaland , Manipur , mizoram , and Arunachal are safest place for india
And isms... Tribalism and favouritism 🙄 a common illness amongs us
Sis settle down@@sentinaroao6779
Our history of fighting for sovereignty is long, nasty and bloody. We the Nagas of Nagaland have seen it all. Today we hope and pray for peace and tranquility for our land. It's time for us to be pragmatic and realistic. No one knows anything about the beautifully and tightly wrapped framework agreement, signed by GOI and NSCN IM. Therefor, let's get over it and settle with what is given to us. It's time for the Nagas of Nagaland to give a new direction to the movement. Let's not live in an utopian world. My last wish is take the deal even if it is within the parameters of the Indian constitution, after all India is not a bad country. If given a choice I will choose democracy over any other system of Government.
Even m from Nagaland I support u, instead of living under tangkhul I rather live under Indian,...no integration no solution for tangkhul
@@mjkkonyk6329 why you hate tangkhul you traitor. Nagalim will be created soon...
@@uzochiokeke4328 What do tangkhul nagas think of the peace deal? Do they see a separate Nagalim being formed under Muivah? What happens to other groups like Angsami and Sema nagas then, since they led the NNC in the early days?
@@uzochiokeke4328 if tangfool happened to rule, I'll form another ug to kill them,.... without integration I don't support tangfool ug, if there s integration of land in the demand I'll love to b together with all the nagas
@@uzochiokeke4328 don't u know English?? U haven't heard what this historian said, muivah where against all the peace deal,... what kind of peace deal he s talking about?? U wil always b a tangfool, if u want to live a peaceful life, tell u father muivah retired, otherwise bitterness days s waiting for us
I love this series. I would be able to comprehend this more easily if SG can overlay a map onscreen while talking about various districts, camps, borders and such geo locations.
Hi. Thanks for the feedback.
Rare journalist in India whose eyes light up when he has to speak on NE INDIA.. I bet he'll be able to explain about my tribe - the "Mishings" from Assam
I thought mishings are from Arunachal 😅
Excellent analysis, was waiting for this episode.
Very impressed. You're the first mainstream journalist who can even pronounce the names I would say. Bhal lagise
Can we take a moment to appreciate the picturesque view and the fact that Shekhar Ji's kurta perfectly matches the background!
See he has a sense of style 😂
I noticed that too 😄
The background looks like sunset in Kohima after an evening shower 😀
Can you address/answer the questions/inputs asked by viewers in comments of the previous ctc episode in the latest ctc episode? It might be a good addition to the show.
The ugly truth is that India being a democratic country failed to understand the meaning of democracy even though the Nagas declared her independence on 14th August 1947 one day ahead of India's independence and India did not paid any heat to plebiscite of 1951 where 99.9% voted for a separate country and sent over 1 lakhs arm forces between 1950 and 1960 to burnt down over 1000 villages, killing 1000s of Civilians even though India is very much against the Chinese occupation of Tibet and xinjiang. And the NSCN with Socialist principles forgot the true meaning of socialism where the system of production are owned by the state but the wealth are distributed equally among the citizens, instead of serving the public most of the high ranking officers started to accumulate wealth for themselves which automatically lead the public to stop supporting them. I think our Naga political issue is very complex and complicated.
Precise and clear of the clutter as always .. thank you for this informative video.
Very colorful and complicated history of Naga's. Thank you for the rich experience and a comprehensive decluttering. A new learning, appreciated. Thank you.👍
This old man talks about only Nscn-im and against Nacn(isack & Muivah). But he didn't even mentioned HOW and WHY Isack, Muivah and Khaplang form the Nscn. He only talks against the Nscn and Muivah-Tankhul.
well there have been mistakes made by both sides, its upon the people there to realize this. If we keep this attitude of finding each others mistakes, we will get nowhere. Its high time people in nagaland realize that peace and prosperity lies only with India.
A very good research you've made there. Thank you for your time in sharing our story. May God bless you and your channel.
Hope GOI and naga people will be satisfied with the final settlement for prolonged militancy problem. Although , i have been critical of separate flag and Constitution even if it comes with in the indian Constitution .
Yes
What is the problem with separate flag and constitution ?
These are basic human rights .
I am a non - Naga but I support Nagaland
We had bad experiences in Kashmir we don't want to repeat it
Good and in depth knowledge, SG you did explain it so well.. i belong to the region so can relate well to the realities.. however you could still go back to pre independence time and explain why this issues started from than..
Concocted story and Indian version.
Please read Kuknalim
www.amazon.in/dp/9388874919/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_.ZsqFbB4HHAZR
Wow! I am from Nagaland and I appreciate your research. You are putting out detailed videos daily on innumerable topics and to have done such a pin point accurate research on a topic so difficult to find information about is really commendable. Respect to you and your team.
SG ...You have not done research well.There are more than 2000 cadres from POUMAI Tribe alone in NSCN & NNPG. And T.Muivah is actually a Poumai Community who had been adopted by one Tangkhul family in his childhood days according to his original Poumai village - Ngari or Reimai in Senapati District. Even the now Hebron camp was discovered-located by one Poumai Brigridar. Even the first NSCN before break up Army Chief was a Poumai, Just ask from hard core or Present officer, So you see we dont blow our own trumpet....but all practicall m logistics are done by POUMAI....do your research more not just wishful thinking blahs...blah...
all i was waiting for is this video from SG. well spoken facts by u sir. much appreciation . thank you
Gosh, this was pretty intense!! Thank you!
For N- E states affairs, always give more time may be 40-45 minutes. There is always big clutter to cut.
Tangkhuls from different villages speak in Standard Tangkhul (not Meiteilon). Meiteilon is the standard language of Manipur state.
There is a lot of misinformation, biased and anti-NSCN (IM) in this episode.
Tankhuls speak meiteilon to communicate with other minor tribes in the hills as that is the common language in their state. I was also confused but it is true. No doubt they speak tankhul language with themselves.
Precise and to the point.
Very difficult to cover decades of events within a short period of time in a single episode. However, very well covered and appreciated... Was quite unsatisfied on the last recent episode 550 but I guess this one compensates for it 🙂👍
I dont mind a 30 to 45 minute long video of yours. You always fill that time with a lot of info..
I am from Bangalore i have visited Kohima in Nagaland and the naga people are very kind and hard-working. I don't think most of them want independence from India but they need more attentiom from central govt. Nagaland is in very bad condition compared to other northeast states.
Autonomy is fine, but secession and divergence is not. Nagaland is India, India is Nagaland.
No aatonomy nothing
Bharat mata ki Jai 🇮🇳
bc yha pr dogla standard dikhate ho hramkhor there is only one Constitution and one flag not nagaland is india .kiyo bc nagaland ki itni himmat ki whole india ko represent kre nhi ye accept nhi
@@askhan403 NO aatonomy. Just autonomy
@Nom Anor 😂😂 who said naga. Is related to China
Jai hind 🇮🇳
Will have to hear this episode 3-4 time and make notes to understand it. Not sure if it cut any clutter or created more.
Every episode should be at least of 20 minutes because as it is said that there is no text without context, the more SG sir provides us with the historical background of each topic we'll comprehend the issue at hand in more comprehensive way.
Very well outlined. This is a complex issue with a lot of historical baggage. Sad that personal ambitions of an individual scuttled previous peace deals and prolonged the misery of Naga people. Also striking to me was the use of targeted assassinations by Mr. Muivah to maintain his dominance; something that Prahhakaran's LTTE was adept at.
All said, Nagas are honorable people and deserve a decent life free of violence and uncertainty.
The most fascinating CTC till date,didn't even realise how fast the time flew away,please do more editions on the NE!
you know so much and we know so less!
Thank you for covering naga issue. I was asking you many times to recover. 🙏👍👍
Thank you so much for this, sir. I'd like to request a CutTheClutter or Nat'l Interest on the ongoing cold war - turf war b/w Nagaland Civil Services and IAS officers posted there.
Natural background is so beautiful.💛
Sir, I feel the timing is wrong in the sense that it is too short! We would love an hour long show with half hour of daily news summary and half hour for a main story like CTC.
Where do you get such beautiful background. Which flowers are these? Or are you hopping around to find these backgrounds 😎
Much needed clutter done right!!!
SG sir is the only mainstream journalist ever to cover this topic . Kudos to u sir👌💯
Lallantop
Incorrect information and very bias analysis. It's just one sided report.
@chan You are wrong..We don't like Muivah Tankhul ' the snake' and people working under him.
Yep
Love the locations of your videos sir ! 🌼🐥❤️
Sir your attention to details is marvelous.. #passion
Hey Shekhar Sir, I'm an avid viewer of your channel. Can you please cover the Gorkhaland Issue? We get little to none national media coverage 😭
@Rohit Thaosen Not really !
You are confusing it with Gorkha Region in Nepal, this demand is for people who are from Nepali origin in India from 1850s, seems legit !
Gurkhas is the correct term in Nepali, roughly translated to Gorkhas in English !
not the same thing !
@Rohit Thaosen I think the situation you have in your brain is cluttered and as I believe most of you have it cluttered to :) ! It's masked by traditional Bengal Govt-ish media. Hence it deserves a cut the clutter or sort of a myth Buster episode! The perspective you are looking it from is the North East, but this is way more different and older of a claim, there is no militant claim, we've been suppressed, language has been, human right violations and what not under the Bengal regime :)
@Rohit Thaosen It's we the Karbis and Dimasa who also needs autonomy
When you make an episode on such a complex matter you must use much more graphics. Show pictures of tribes, people, maps, location and most importantly charts.
This same episode and same narration would have much more educational this way. Once you try this you will feel the difference.
Since you know all this so you are talking in your way but viewers are not senior journalist. Hope you get my point.
Thank Shekhar Sir for succinct & comprehensive explanation👍seems like unlike other mainland journalists you seems to know Naga issue from micro to macro level 👍👍👍
@theprint it would be great if you can include some graphics on the side whenever you are explaining a complex topic like this. there are so many names and territories without some graphic to keep a track you get lost after some time, especially when you have limited knowledge about the topic and are here to learn more.
“taxes” another name for extortion 🤣✌🏻
Bertil Linter's book: "Travels Through Insurgent Burma" is instructive on the way the Kachins looked down upon Swu & Muivah. Politically, the rough formulation is that the IM is aligned with the BJP and the K with the Congress. And this goes back to SC Jamir's time and ouster as the CM. The NSCN (IM) is today run by Appam Muivah, who is worthy of your attention. He is T Muivah's nephew and heir apparent. The IM leaders, ensconced in Thailand, head a multi-country narcotics and gun-running racket. Narcotics is their mainstay, mainly heroin sourced from the Golden Triangle. All the prognostications over Nagalim etc are just to keep the Peace Accord moving - rather, maintaining the status quo so as to ensure a smooth passage through of their narcotics and guns. If the Government were to crack down ruthlessly on these two aspects - drugs and guns, then the rest will fall into place.
its a wonderful place and the with the exception of the Semas, who are somewhat different in attitude, all tribes display a superior sense of direct democracy - everything is voted upon, by men and women equally, mostly on Sunday after Church.
Wow, your knowledge about this is very impressive. For one second i thought this person must be in intelligence. Are Bertil Lintner's other books good too? Also, check out Easterine Kire's fiction in case you haven't already. Thank you for that interesting comment
Your view is echoed by many common people but no action is taken along these lines. The official approach of the govt is to keep talking about peace and turn a blind eye to the narcotics and arms trafficking by the ug.
U have Twitter account?
In reality the peace process acts as a protective shield for some elements to run their illegal business, so the more is is prolonged the better for them
@@jaanemandilruba5279 Bertil Linters books open up a diff narative. Enjoyable reads too.
The first Cut the clutter who is very objective and informative!! Thanks Shekhar. Need another clutter to discuss options
Sir don’t worry about timing of the videos. I think your viewer are intellectual enough to understand that such complex topics require detailed de-cluttering. ThAnks for your work.
I'm glad someone with significant influence is talking about NE brothers. The way NE and their issues are ignored by masses and mainstream media is dangerous for the unity of this land. NE brothers, it's a request to mutually respect the rest of India. The will for respect and peaceful coexistence should be mutual.
Thanks for 101
I loved today's topic
I hope the indian government reaches out to the naga population with an open heart and integrate them in to the indian constitution as was the case with others. Truly unity in diversity.
Nscn IM extort transport of essentials into Manipur. Everything is costly cuz of that.
And Modi govt was smart to include d other groups n edge out Muivah.
And shekharji so so on point.
Are you from Nagaland? If so, what are the thoughts of people of Nagaland about rest of India and Central government?
It's a shame national media doesn't cover north east and people are not interested.
@@prasadpawar7027 yeah
I would very much like to know.
@@prasadpawar7027 National media doesn't cover the South, either.
Pls stop saying hindi entertainment channels as national media.. N also some barking anchors n English doesn't make up national media to..
National media is money making chutiyas. They only want trp. Fuk jurnalism.
As of today, If there is one news program that i follow its #cuttheclutter. 20 odd minutes of very good analysis by Shekhar Sir..Kind of motivating me to work with you at The Print.. Team...Keep up the good work
In a such short time ,you summed up all the aspects.Hats off..
Bet Michael Scott said 'thats what she said' at the peace talks
Michael scott negotiations for sure ;)
@@abhayagarwal3412 Copy, paste wala?
Michael Scott gave the tribesman cigars in exchange for a state at the peace talks
@@abhayagarwal3412 let's open our eyes. The aim is to make Nagalim for Christ not a secular Nagalim which you are fantasizing about.
Lmfao Brother, We don't have a problem nor had any problem with anyone practicing other faiths in my state. You are free to ask anyone. All are treated equally here unlike some other parts of India where they torture Christians just for their faith.
I am from TN and living in the US. I have never heard such a good explanation of Naga problem. Seems like there will be no solution because of so many competing tribes.
Tribes are funded to put against each other. If Indians do not do that. All tribes will join hands together for a free Naga nation with their own flag and constitution.
Common !I have met many nagas on social media. Belive me this nscn guys are not any freedom fighters especially after 1997 peace deal . Today their nscn I'm people roam everywhere in naga inhabited areas and extort people on gunpoint and loot their money. Their leader muiva has reportedly committed war crimes on kuki tribes in ,manipur . Muiva was also jailed in Thailand for few years. Belive me these tribes actually want to sign peace deal only nscn I'm and k are obstacles . Most nagas now prefer comming to mainland and take jobs and higher education instead of joining this insurgents.hope goi tries to provide employment opportunities in nagaland so that no one would be left jobless to join this groups.
@@SaltnP and u r a Bangladeshi
Very good insight. Thank you for giving so valuable information.
Some graphics would have helped understand this better. You gave so many names and historical details that it was really hard to keep track.
1950s- Naga insurgency starts.
1960s- Nagaland created. Efforts for permanent solution derailed by one person.
1970s- Shillong Accord signed. Efforts for permanent solution again derailed by same person.
1980s- That same person emerges as undisputed Dictator of Nagas.
1990s- Ceasefire signed between Dictator & GOI. Negotiations start.
2000s- Negotiations inconclusive as Dictator play delay tactics.
2010s- Another Framework Agreement signed between Dictator & GOI. Negotiations start.
2020- Negotiations inconclusive as Dictator play delay tactics again.
Naga insurgency started because they were not granted independence in 1947
Who is dictator here
Disappointing that within the first 4 minutes the number of tribes has been gotten completely wrong.
Good to listen, Thanks
I was born in UP, raised in Rajasthan, studied in Karnataka and Delhi, settled in Mumbai. My best friend is from Kalimpong, my roommate was from Manipur. So the title was enough to get me to this video. Now to put my brain in alert mode to appreciate this feature.
Thank you for finally mainstreaming all of our country, kudos!
Can I add "God Bless, khush rahiye " or is that controversial now!
Its a matter of "Who actually wants to consider themselves Indian vs Not wants to consider themselves Indian". Better India keep & invest fund in letter ones. Like Tamil Nadu,Jammu, Ladakh, kerala, Sikkim, Meghalaya etc.
India consist of emotionally connected States would be more stable and developed. Rest should be leave & be friendly neighbors.
If the NSCM IM demand not given the more problem and more insurgeant will come out in the north easth of In dia .
Wrong dude. Tripura, Mizoram, Meghalaya, Bodo ... all have laid down arms. Now Assam is also laying down arms.
Naga accord ,It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.
All decluttered today!
Remove muivah n everything will be decluttered
@@rkh7360
It means you did not listen SG attentively
80 percent of NSCN are manipur based Muivahs
@@robertbrowning41 sirji,even without SG mentioning,we in Manipur know that. We don't hate Nagaland ppl. We hate NSCN-IM. And let me tell u one thing, which is common knowledge in Manipur, but u might not know as SG didn't exactly mention it. Although he did hint at it. Nagas in Nagaland call Nagas from Manipur etc as kuccha Nagas.
So u obviously misinterpreted my statement. What I said was NSCM-IM extorts the ppl of Manipur. Be it the transporters of goods. Be it govt officials. They take govt contracts through a proxy at gunpoint. And the cadres are being offered lucrative rehabilitation schemes and im sure left without this crazy grandpa, most of them wud surrender. Its this old man that doesn't want to budge.
What I learnt however from SG was that they did the same thing to the Nagas in Nagaland. We thought they extorted only Manipuris.
Also, another reason for your misinterpretation of my statement is ur lack of knowledge of manipur's geography n demography. Manipur has 90% hills which are reserved for the ST like Nagas n Kukis while only 35.45% of the population stay there. Remaining 75% of the population stay in the Imphal Valley which is only 10% of the land. Meitei community constitute 50% or so n we all are crammed in the valley cuz we are not ST. So when NSCN very conveniently claim its Naga's land and should be part of Nagaland, its cuz we are not even allowed to settle there. While, NSCN extorts transport into the valley. So, we the common ppl irrespective of which community we belong to are affected by their extortion n bullying n killing.
So it doesn't matter to us if NSCN Nagas are mostly from Mabipur. This group is anti-Manipur. Their ambition is to take away the land of Manipur.
P.S. Please read up on issues b4 commenting blithely.
@@rkh7360
Manipur tried it too by developing seven new districts but ended up in null and void.
Thankyou Shekhar Sir....
Masterful! Shekharji, as I’ve said before in this space, you are the best we have for bringing the NE home in our collective minds. I ran this episode twice to hear the Naga names and get familiar with them. I’m sure many of us in the various parts in the country want to understand this still-unfamiliar region of our country. It’s high time that our fellow citizens from the NE are just as mainstreamed as the rest. It would be wonderful if you ran a NE episode every fortnight explaining the social and cultural aspects to us along with the politics of the region. This repeated reiteration is needed for the rest of us to absorb and remember the many essential details of our family in the NE.
This sense of the ‘other’ still resides in many minds and it has to go. The idea is *not* to get the majority cultures to be assimilative and thus ruin the cultural landscape of the NE; it is to create an easy and affectionate familiarity. Hope you will consider it. Many thanks!
Pat Sen.
Nagaland is still a state where parallel govt runs by naga groups. If such groups are collecting money for development why is Nagaland still so backward in many human development index as pointed by R N Ravi.
Who exactly are you referring to as "people of India " that don't accept the Nagas ... The people of Tamil Nadu ?? Or Assam ?? Or Punjab ?? Come on even in the so called "mainland India " there are 1000s of diverse cultures that all seem to get along fine despite all their differences ... Kashmiri Pandits are also from Kashmir as are the people of Jammu and Ladakh ... This victim-hood narrative is essentially fake
@@0609Bhuwan if what you said is right than why is Manoj Sinha send to Kashmir when a top IAS officer was also doing well.
Accepting naga means means knowing about their culture their language their cloths etc. Do u know how to say hello in naga or Kashmiri. Many Indians doesnt. That's the harsh reality
Interesting brief/sketchy history of Naga separatist movement after independence. It would be interesting to discuss about the ways to achieve lasting peace.
More than the text popping up on the screen, it would help if Shekhar were to write on a white/black board. A black board would be a good way to convey solutions to complex problems.
Shekhar and team, please consider.
Nice article. Would have liked to hear about SGs opinions on the best path forward to resolve this issue. Being from NE (Assam) myself, and having traveled to both Kohima and Dimapur as a kid, it pains me to see that peace eludes this region still.
Naga issue is as cluttered as it could be. Even SG could gasp at the magnanimity!
"He is no more. These are very old people."
Shekhar do not worry about time you explain things really well. So keep it going on.
Nagas are always Naga.... you can never make Naga into Indian by your self interest so called history or so... so please stop studying Naga inspiration for freedom
sir you have brilliently explained the naga problem which no other journalist had ever ever explained .As I belong to north east I dont know if any one had ever explained like you .
This hindu correspondent vijita spreading misinformation on sovereignty must listen to SG
I would have love to listen this topic even if it was over an hour.
Perfectly explained about our Naga History. God bless you
Missing cut the clutter for last 7-10 days. Hope all well. When r u SG expected to b back ?
I think Mr SG finishes burning more calories while moving his hands, head, body in his speech than I do in a week
Gupta ji, you need to visit Nagaland for refresher course. If you know what I mean.
Doesn't matter if he visit or not, GOI will never allow what your freedom fighters want....
@jatin chauhan...keep parking
I'm waiting for tsunami to washed away Tankhuls working under Muivah the snake
Well said 👍✨
Shekhar Sir, thank you for this intelligent de-clutter. The NE complexity is something the rest of the country doesn't really know or care to give careful thought. And from the few friends I have there, it is evident this is an overriding feeling in their part of the woods too.
More episodes like this should come to mainstream media on a regular basis. I really liked this episode because I thought you have hit the nail on head here. Thanks for your time and research on this. I hope govts, leaders and bureaucracy evolve with an equal measure of optimum knowledge of history abt everything and combine it with the deliberate will and ambition to bring development to people, and not to them. It is so clever a strategy to blindfold people with great ideas and consciously not following up on them. Jai Hind