A primer on Nagaland, India’s oldest insurgency as crisis erupts with Mon killings | Abridged Ep 304
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- Even as the peace talks in Nagaland reach keep meandering in final stages, a look at the roofs of the crusts. In episode 304 of Cut The Clutter, Shekhar Gupta had traced the factors of geography, turning points & fascinating individuals & explained why he calls the march to peace a series of bell curves, not just one. This abridged version can help us understand the origins of the issue better.
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How little do we know about our own people? No wonder certain parts of India are alienated. Thank you SG for this primer.
Well said Ajit. So called patriots say all those mischief even without knowing the details ..I am doing my research on Nagaland economy. I got to know the reality .. they are very ailinated.. no development and no priority by government
they're markedly different than Indians. they're closer to Tibetans and Burmans. it's alegacy of British colonial gift to India. why the partition?
These lands belong to neither India nor China. They are tribal lands.
@@gulabh amen
@@happysingh2840
How can we reduce this alienation?
I have few ideas but first I would like to read your ideas
Your knowledge about Nagas and Nagaland is commendable sir.
"Nagas will never surrender in the battle field, but many will fall when money is shot through the barrel of gun"
-- A.Z. Phizo
I love this line and it's happening everyday in Nagaland
So true..love from tribes of Rajasthan... 🙏😞
Its one's point of view.
That more like every politician
Oh ya ya 🥱
i am from Nagaland lets get real. We are fiercely very traditional yet we are also accomodating.
Among the media houses in the mainland india. I guess you are by far have the best or to have the nost precise knowledge of NE india. Thanks. Pls cover the MON incident exculsivly and bring the real picture out to the NATION. Thank you Mr. Gupta🙏🏻
Condolences to the families of the innocent civilians .I really expect a fair investigation and further punishment so that nothing like that sort of unfortunate incident happens again. From Punjab,India.
@@jattmoosewala83 ..Main ethe kise nu defend nai kr reha... Banda tan eh v jisdi v galti hai usnu fansi te tango. . Conflict zone hai eh...Khud nu bachan layi v kayi vaar galti lag ke koi begunaah marya janda hai.. Thode din pehlan ethe army de jawan te ohde saare parivar te goliyan maar ke khatam kr dita c ..wife te bache dono c car ch.. baad ch jihna ne goli maari ohna ne eh statement diti k sanu nai pata c k usde biwi bache v usde naal c. Ohna ne v sorry feel kreya .. so war zone de vich eh cheezan na chaunde hoye v hundiyan ne... Kyunki dono side sensitive nai hunde ne na army ale na hi samne ale militant... 1991 vich mere nanke parivar nu khailstaniyan ne goli maar diti c ..eh gal bujrak pind tehsil samana di hai... Jadki ohna da koi kasoor nai c... But us time mahaul aisa c apne punjab ch.. har banda apni chadhayi krna chahunda c chahe police howe chahe khalistani hon... Jadon ladayi lagi howe te Apneyan nu v fer har banda shaq nal dekhda hai.. ehi shaq karan baneya eh unfortunate incident hon da Nagaland ch.
Sir your history is immense. I love the story and facts of the North East people. Even Chota in size we are resilient and are a proud race. Thank you for your honesty.
@@sevenstars4817 shut up,stop spreading hate,are you indian ,we should not spread hate
Nagas be proud of yourself,india is proud of you and we love you all
agreed 👍✌
Nagaland is not chota ... Most countries are normally of that size.. it's India, China, US etc which are extra large and extra populated. These "big" countries have a false sense of there power. They use there powers to destroy lives and dominate instead being constructive.
Nagas are a very proud race and they are no way chota is stature. Hope better sense prevails and the families get justice
It's really a shame that most of Indians don't know about North Eastern part of their nation. The main reason could be mainstream media (print, tv, online) don't do major reporting. We need to change that.
Totally agree, even after living almost all my life in India I still know so little about the history of North eastern states, they have very little representation in our movie and television.
Though I still remember their awesome choirs during Christmas on Door Darshan. Main streem India needs to get back in touch with indigenous tribes and cultures in the NE
Why where are you from
And be taught in schools too...
Yes ,sir you are absolutely right 👍, the national media ignore us north east, they the national media do not do telecast about north east ,so the main land indians do not know what north east is, the main land indians do not know us, but the whole world 🌎 now know about us,long live nagalim ✌️ kuknalim nagalim 🙏
@@heybaekie171 we south India have lots to share specially during Christmas season and your coral singing group participation,lots of young people who are interested in learning Theology prefer south and we are delighted to have them here. Our prayers are with you all states of 7 sisters.
Possibly the best ever episode of CTC I have listened to until now. Thank you so much!
Guptaji is a walking encyclopedia of knowledge. I find it difficult of how much he had witnessed first hand and how much is acquired. His story telling is so fascinating that it looks like he had witnessed the whole story from 1947 with his own eyes.
He is a member of secret society Illuminati. How come he appears everywhere Everytime in most critical historical moments..
@@seafone12 lmao
Then why don't you explain about North East India specially Nagaland if you are really against Nagaland?😡😡😡
Whatever has happened is very disturbing.Nagas are very polite and hard-working people.
Dont discriminate northeast people please.
I hope the people responsible for death of my countrymen face punishment, I heard news from main stream media, this is very problematic side of army and can't be tolerated. I love Indian army but in this case I am heavily shameful of whatever happened.
🙁🙁
@@tony-pc4kd calm down,yes army needs to be questioned,yes we must appreciate them for their protection and sacrifice but when they misuse their power we must punish them.
@@tony-pc4kd there can be intelligence failure too. That in intelligence wing
@@tony-pc4kd hey dummy, I mentioned Indian army. Can't u read?
This is the kind of in depth journalism and reporting that lacks in today’s TV debates. All we get to hear in TV debates is mostly hyper patriotism .
Phizo was abroad. Shillong accord was signed without the concern of the leader Phizo and that was the reason most Nagas couldn't totally agree with the Shillong Accord. Without a clue of Shillong Accord, Isaac and Muivah came back from China and were totally against the Accord which led to formation of NSCN IM.
You are right about the factor leading to the formation of NSCN (IM) but the Shillong accord was not condemned convincingly by Phizo. In fact his younger brother were one of the representatives that signed the accord. Isak & Muivah (IM) requested many leaders including Phizo to condemned the accord but he remained silent. Perhaps Phizo already knew about the inevitable outcome. He never come back to nagaland & remained in London till his death.
I hope this Insurgency end. wanna see our N.E. to be the new engine of growth for country.
As japan, South korea, singapore, china, taiwan have be economical power house of SE asia. wanna see our north east as one of those hubs.
north have delhi, west have mumbai, south have chennai, mid and lower mid have Bangalore and Hydrabad, western mid have pune, east lower have kolkata.
if NE became hub in se asia we will boom the world.
Lets hope those who are still being on separatist path, become one of us thousands of cultures, collectively called india. lets lead the country to glory.
Jay hind
@prometheus
This accord is void as it signed as underground representative and not NNC moreover,
They had no other choice if they hadn't signed, the Indian Army would resume their operation and thousands more blood would have shed.
That shows Phizo was not a person of integrity. An accord signed by key members should have been accepted by all and if that had happened there would have been lasting peace. And when there is lasting peace we would not even be discussing about AFSPA
@@motionBud like I said Phizo “already knew about the inevitable outcome.”
I guess not a lot of people know this, hence I am writing, when shekhar said, "if we are north Vietnamese, then he is our general Giap". Gen Giap was an ex history teacher, and he is credited for the extraordinary planning and logistics of Dien Bien Phu assault on the French.
Another Vietnam War enthusiast I see.
On a tangent: the special forces unit that lost at dien Bien Phu was later sent to Algeria to quell the uprising there.. I tried to confirm this now, but couldn't find anything on internet, but I distinctly remember this. Would be grateful if someone can confirm this.
Naga Leaders were smart .
Indian Government should Repeal AFSPA ....
#Nagaland: Story behind, according to ground level information about the brutal massacre in Mon district ||
17 villagers were brutally massacred by the Indian Army but govt says "Probe", the centre says "condolences" and Army says "Regrets" - but no statements on accountability and punishing the murderers. Let's check the ground level information that happened on the 4th evening at the massacre site:
The incident took place on the night of 4th December where the six Villagers from Oting Village who were heading back home from coal mining work at Tiru in a Pickup mini-truck were ambushed and killed by the Indian Army mistaking them for militants. They were unarmed and possessed no hint to be mistaken for militants but were murdered in cold blood.
On hearing the gunshots, the village youths rushed to the spot being apprehensive given that, the individuals didn't return home from work, only to find the mini-truck and the Indian Army trying to hide the dead bodies of the six individuals by wrapping and loading them in their truck. It was reported that they tried to act normal and some even put stuff above the dead bodies and even sat on it to avoid suspicion. The remains of blood from the mini-truck was also attempted to hide by putting sand in it. This indicates that their intention to hide the blunder made by them.
Upon seeing the sceptical situation there, the village youths who appeared in the incident site searched the truck and found the dead bodies after which the violence broke out between the villagers and the army.
The villagers burnt down the trucks of the army and started attacking them with Dao and the machete they were carrying with them. Had they carried the locally made guns, the situation would have been even worse for both sides.
However, in retaliation to the attack by the villagers, the Army fired upon the villagers which led to the death of more individuals altogether 13 already and several left seriously injured. There are still some individuals missing in the jungle and their whereabouts are yet to be ascertained as to whether they are even alive or dead.
[Today, 2 more were killed in the discriminate firing by the Assam Rifles/ Indian Army and the death toll rises to 17 now.]
We are sorry for that bro from deep of my heart I know I can't do anything but condolences but if this is not probed this can may happen in mainland and yes I agree with you a lot coz operational procedures of ci operation of IA says you have to ask to surrender before firing on them and until you don't receive fire from that side you shouldn't fire on them this maybe due to some mental officers leading them...
@@priyanshupandey2670 Yess! Totally agree with that 👍 With addition on that intelligence failure or a mislead info 👎 no doubt after given 100 % assurance by the intelligence the operation will proceed and that might had happened the incident.
It's only a possible theory not the fact to offend any one.
[Justice ⚖ for the lost of innocent coal miners(daily wagers). ]
My deepest condolences. May Our Lord protect and comfort your families , relatives and villagers .
RIP
@@priyanshupandey2670 yeah brother .This AFSPA power can be a boon or bane .If it happens anywhere not only people from my state but anywhere where the act has been implemented are in danger to be killed 😪(knowingly or unknowingly)
In Army
Ambush means no warning
So now why are the Armies saying they gave warning
This is brilliantly put together. According to me the most important lesson from this is that it takes multi-pronged concerted effort to bring and keep the peace. Catch phrases and emotional slogans might look good for elections, but real solutions happen through hard work, compassion and pragmatism.
The Eastern Nagas were never under the rule of the Britishers and was free up to the stage when India got its Independence. It was only in the year 1948, a year after India achieved independence that it came under the control of India and was placed under the External Affairs Ministry.
After the statehood, Tuensang was not under Nagaland State Assembly but Tuensang had Regional Council for 10 years (1963-74) and till that time Nagaland State was kept under External affairs.
The Tuensang District also participated in the Indian election for the first time. After the state election of 1974, Nagaland state was brough under Ministry of Home Affairs.
It is greed for land brother , these big countries all over the world want to get victory over small countries and they are succeeding 😥
British started its rule when they handed Bible to nagas. Indigenous culture was distroyed by missionaries
@@Livingstone51 and I give thanks to them missionary for it. We are Christians, who know we might still be worshipping idiols.
The American missionaries brought Christianity and education to Nagaland. History.
@@Livingstone51 everything about naga past involve around head hunting be it religion , tradition or culture .
Thank you GuptaJi for this video! This was really needed. This is the time when we need such videos more than journalism and no one else would have done it better than you. Thank you!
History of nagaland is complex to understand me but That last words spokes by the leader to Sekharguptha sir is simply superb.
That is the power of Indian constitution and democracy
Bro indian constitution is only powerful because they came under it. It is powerfull because people believe in it. Its not a devine pamplet, its just a piece of paper with framework of how to run our country. It will only be binding Nagaland as long as Naga people respect and follow it. Its a document under which to unify different sets of people who are too different to one another.
😂 power of indian Constitution and democracy?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
There are more than 60 tribe of Nagas in Nagaland, Manipur, Arunachal, Assam and Burma.
14 Recognised tribes in Nagaland, two non Nagas ie Kuki and Kachari, total 16 tribes in Nagaland and various unrecognized and sub-tribes in Nagaland today.
Thanks for this info 👍
Just like us Mizo people, Nagas are very scattered. They have a community in Myanmar too. In Myanmar, we Mizo are called Chin and have a state with a population of over 600000. The Lai tribe has the largest population over 20 lakhs.
@@ruatapachuauruatapachuau9116 I request you to remain with our motherland India. We all have the best constitution in the world and our constitution protects all religions and customs!!
@@arulnid 😂😂. Yeah sure!!! But after the prophecy of Saikhuma is fulfilled, we can no longer be in the union even if we want to or not. Cause in Saikhuma's prophecy before he died in 1965, he has connections with a strange natural being of in 1962-1965. In the prophecy, he has already prophesies many things about the future of Mizoram.
For example: The Mizo revolt, the Indian Union, Kaladan Multimodal Project, the reason why oil cannot be extracted from the grounds of Mizoram, the Indo-China war to happen in the future.😂😂. I will tell you one of his prophecy, '' From the East, I saw a ferocious, barbaric tribe coming and saw them eating everything, but the ones who believe in God, do not be scared of them, for they are the key to your freedom''. Also one similar prophecy, '' I will let the tribes near you fight and shifted you out, for this is how the Lord save his people''. '' As long as Mizoram is in the hands of a ten hand statue, God will never allow for you guys to search for the Hidden treasures''. '' This is not the time to cry nor this is the time to laugh''. ''Pendant!Pendant!''. We Mizo called all of these prophecy as '' Thimthuahhnih'' meaning the second covering of darkness. The first ''Thimthuahkhat'' has already happened in 1966-1975 which he prophesies in 1962-1965 before he died and yeah many of us suffer a lot. I wonder how dark and painful it will be when the time of Thimthuahhnih comes. And all of it came true. During those times we Mizo laugh at him and even spit on him but now some of us Mizo can see that he was not a psychopath at all. The Prophecy of 'Saisihchhuah' is very near. Maybe in 2023. All these act East policy are not just a coincidence but was already planned long time ago by God is some of us Mizo just see it now. 😀😀.
I sound like a coward. 😂😂
@@ruatapachuauruatapachuau9116 boss, what r u smoking 🤣🤣
Wow. I am from assam and still didn't know about the insurgency in this detail
Thank you for covering the Naga history some of which I was not aware ot. Thank you for sharing your first hand experience With Wise Naga leaders.
My sympathies and condolences to the family members of the people who died in this incident. May all departed soul rest in peace. ॐ शांति 🙏
@@tony-pc4kd why are you blaming him?
@@tony-pc4kd amit shah did not kill them it was soldiers
Shekhar Gupta is a national treasure !
Thank you Sir...... For giving the details of my land, Nagaland to the Nation.
Why do I come across many people from the AO community who are so pro Indian? Something is seriously wrong with you guys and with your ability to think. Poor fellows
@@Naga-Nation stop bringing tribal issues here, this is not the time for it.
@@TalismanTopG- I am pointing out what is obvious.
@@Naga-Nation cant understand what do you mean,care to explain?
@@pj8058 Which part you want me to expain? Can you quote it
Today it's a dark Sunday of the Nagas , the indian army has killed 13 innocents civilians as the army conducted operation as they get an information from intelligence of insurgency movements but mistakenly fired at civilians who were returning home from mining place 😢😡
This was really sad. I hope all those responsible gets the strictest of the punishments. 😢
Not mistakenly fired, it's knowingly murdered our those daily wages innocent brother's.
@@augustineangaminaga7137 Sir I strongly believe it was a case of mistaken identity and faulty intelligence. I trust my army not to harm my own people intentionally.
@@parthobhattacharya9063 your army are getting pleasure of killing innocent civilians our here in Northeast
@@augustineangaminaga7137 My army is your army too. We have Naga soldiers in Indian Army and I greatly respect their courage and valor. What happened is wrong no doubt but that is an outlier and not the norm. So dont push your luck.
Gupta ji has led an adventurous life, a true blue blood journalist
Thank you sir, can you please do a second part and also the coverage of the present incident at Mon and also about AFSPA.
Thank you
Kudos sir for your vast knowledge about us,lots of love from nagaland 🥰
I thoroughly love this initiative of print, to share the old but very relevant videos of the CTC on the weekends.... 😊😊
Nagas and all other tribes , should be treated with respect. Hope this kind of Tragedy never repeat.
Shekhar' so-called comment about Nagas'
Freedom Movement has
Just started
It is better for him as a
Journalist to tell the True
History of the Nagas'
Before British Entry into
Naga Hills as Nagas' have
Been Living there for
Thousands of years
Without any foreign power
Shekhar has to go to
Makhel History at MAO
In ManiLand or Kangleipak
Tibet is an example of Chinese extremism...
Nagaland is an example of Indian inclusiveness and Respect for such states...
Inclusiveness by executing planned genocide?
@@badbadbadcat I trust SG, such words are not mentioned in the report. My deep condolences to those who lost their loved ones. I mean to say Indian mindset set is far better than chinese.
@@RavarsenBlogspot India allows you to **Disagree** ...
@@GaneshganiK killer comment!
But the ending will be similar to Tibet. If Nagaland cannot survive as an independent state then how is Bhutan Nepal is surviving. It's is just an excuse if really those Naga leaders thought that time really they will be regretting their judgements.
This should have been taught in our history classes!
The 1962 story is written by Mr. Sanjoy Hazarika in his book called "The strangers of the mist"
I have huge resepect for army but injujustice is done by army in this case and strict action should be taken against people who commited such mistakes, peoples who lost their lifes their families must be componsated, we have such a great intel. agencies still we commit such mistakes is just unacceptable for our national security and army standards.
In the aftermath it will come out as a mistake and case of mistaken identity by the security forces. The credibility of the entire security forces is at question. How can you expect a force that relies on unconfirmed information or acting on their own volition and killing innocent civilians to protect the whole country.
Sir, thank you for the information.
The history of Nagas have became narcissistic and not fully told of unsung heroes. The Eastern part of Nagaland, thier sacrifice and impact of that sacrifice is hindsighted. The first Naga tribe to shoot at Arms force was Yimchunger as promised by AZ Phizo to give recognition on doing so. In all good faith, I would love to hear Eastern Nagas part of history from you.
I'm from Nagaland and never missed watching ur videos,u know more about nagas more than me and I always learn from you...
Being a non-naga born & brought up in Dimapur, Nagaland I truly appreciate the depth of knowledge that SG has about Nagaland & Naga people.
So what does the local common people want there?
@@kashutosh9132 army should be held responsible for killing innocent people I guess,I think those who killed innocent should be reprimanded
@@worldisone8282 oof course
@@worldisone8282
Of course in this case,those commited need to be brought to justice
but my first question was about insurgency (srry to be not not specific about it)
@@kashutosh9132 We want India to leave us alone and to stop bothering us. That's exactly what the public wants.
Good one Shekhar! It was an awesome trip down the memory lane! Now we know how and why, we have arrived where we have!
Very Beautifully Explained. Am a veteran now, in 1987 qualified in CIJW. It was Deja Vu. Again as Civilian served in the area of NE in 2001 to 2005.
For non initiated CIJW is Counter Insurgency & Jungle Warfare. But No doubt Nagas are great people. Interacted with so many of them.
Perfectly explained ! You're always with indepth research with paper and pen
Hope and Pray for the peaceful solution of the current instability in the Nagaland. May all the departed souls reat in peace - Thanks for the historical update on Nagaland to the current generation of people of the Nation🙏
Very vivid insight. Well researched. One of the best amongst the mainstream media.
Killing innocent in the name of counter insurgency is never justified.Had this incidents happened in the hinterland, media would have crying like anything.
Very true. Nagas were slowly becoming part of mainstream but current hindu nationalist sentiment put the dial back . If bjp goes things will again come back to normal.
@@cb9461 ohh shut up BJP is extremists but here you are not right
The story from 1962 is so special. Beautiful❤
Brilliant episode Sir. First ever analyst from mainland providing such clear cut information on any part of North East India. Will expect more on any other states of NE in the coming days.
Best channel on History of naga freedom struggle
the best of journalism.. always neutral point of view.. simply informative with great storytelling
As a kid things would always be a little tense when we would leave the confines of army camp in Nagaland in 90's. Now I understand the deep history behind that tention. Great segment print and shekhar Gupta sir.
👍 very knowledgeable- one of the best reports on Nagaland insurgency
Really appreciate this video, you are one of the only journalists who has an in depth knowledge of the naga political history. Thanks for sharing it with the world.
Even karan thapar bro who interviewed muivah he too has so much knowledge about naga history and so on.
thanks Guptaji. This is literally a history lesson to me.
Very informative indeed....it is indeed an eye opener that you know so much about the Naga political problem..
I hope and pray the people in Delhi who are making the Rules and negotiating for the Naga political problem will know as much as you do or consult you if they don't!...
May be if they do, we wont be in such a bad situation
Dear Shekarji... I have no words to mention this CTC... keeping the incident 2 nights back in hindsight I expected you will make the CTC on the incident... what a awesome episode where you have shared with us all the history on Nagaland... thanks for the history input and looking forward to the CTC or NI on the actual imcident🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
All our security forces are trained to obey politicians without question which makes them insensitive. Any force that isn't sensitive is bound to make mistakes like these.
@@NarinderxBali
Well not without proper consultation and debate and question with the forces first.
All kinds of clowns with no knowledge whatsoever can get elected.
@@tony-pc4kd ye thoda jyada hogyy bae ...
No need of history books if this respected man speaks. Now I know everything about Nagaland. Thank you a lot sir for sharing your knowledge. God bless ahead 🙏😇
As far as I know in 1966-1971,during the time when the MNF(Mizo National Front) have revolted against the Indian government, 400 Mizo civilians were killed, many of our men were beaten up to dead and many women have been raped and murdered by the Indian soldiers and many people are missing till this day. And the worst part, they use Jet Fighters on innocent Mizo civilians who doesn't even have any connections with the MNF in Aizawl and the Central Officials even said on the news, '' We don't want the Mizo people, we only want the land'', and even Morarji Desai said, '' All those Mizo people should be shifted to the hot deserts of Rajasthan'', Indira Gandhi too said, '' We drop ration'' by which she means bombing. Looking back at all those dark past, it's hard for us many Mizo to suppress our anger. Not only for us Mizo, but I think for some of the Nagas too. Back in those days, the only reason the MNA surrendered is because of the Church and the Mizo students,people who are born in 1950s are still in pain.But what can we do anyway. After all, we are a minority whose future is full of dangers. Right now, many more Bangladeshi immigrants, not only Bangladeshi immigrants, but some Bengali Hindus too are overpopulating us. If the Government of India wants us to always remain in the Indian Union, they should take actions as quickly as possible to prevent the upcoming revolution to happen. History is History, people may say, but if you guys are not the victim, you will not know how it feels.
Indian army raped and killed en masse? Are you being serious?
You know your history but you don't know history of formation of Maharashtra. If maharastrian's would have picked guns in 1950s today Maharashtra would have been a country but our leader and people knew that we will be more prosperous with resources from the rest of india and rather then picking guns our people conducted peaceful protest for establishing state of Maharashtra. Still hundreds were martyred during the peaceful protest. Today Maharashtra is no1 in economic and infrastructure in whole india. But look at north-east. You people think indians as only UP, Biharis, Assamese, Bengalese and Punjabis. Plus if you listen speech of phizo you will notice superiority complex in him. He call indians 'black' which clearly tells us that he didn't know anything about india and indians. Pakistan and Chinese were architect's of these all insurgency's. One thing you should accept Naga's and mizo's picked the guns first and then union retaliated. There was no reason to for separating from union. It was just greed of power of few peoples which resulted in deaths of thousands. Even today some people say they are forced indians. Which I think says a lot about both Mizoram and Nagaland. Literate people with less thinking abilities.
@@shubhamsagarsingh9451 It happened back in the days although the documentation of such incidents are lacking because of our calm attitude. We are not the type of people who cry over spilled milk. So we have a tendency to just forgive, forget and move on. Instances such as the indiscriminate bombing by the Indian Air Force over Aizawl city are promptly forgotten by the Mizos because we don’t want to unnecessarily go back in history and open old wounds. You should read about the Indian Army’s strategy of the collectivisation of villages and interning the civilian population. I’ve also heard from the older generation about many instances of rape but we are too polite as a society to interview the victims and infringe on their privacy. So we just move on and forget.
@@shubhamsagarsingh9451 See!! I know you guys are going to reply like this. Saying, '' Are you being serious''. I will tell you 'This is all the Truth' . Go ask the Nagas, if the Indian Soldiers have killed their Forefathers or not, have they raped their women. The answer is 'Yes'. FYI, Nagaland, Meghalaya, Mizoram, etc would never have been a state if there wasn't any insurgency. FYI, there were more than 10 Insurgents groups in the North East before 2000. We Northeast Indians didn't join the Indian Union because of our own will. It is because of the brutality of the Indian soldiers and government. Sikkim was also forcefully annexed by the Indian Soldiers.
Ask the Tripuris getting killed at the hand of Hindu Bengali regularly. All northeast tribal states face the same fate of extinction unless the issue is solved by other ways.
Kudos to the whole team of print.specially Gupta sir,keep doing these kind of series they are very holistic and give a very crisp view, without indulging in any kind of left or right leaning news. Would love to write some articles for this channel. 😀
That last point u said, is mind blowing!!
Mr. Shekar Gupta is a gem among Indian journalists!!
Wow. Very informative. Never knew this deep history. Thanks a lot sir ji.
When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.
Sir the other day I saw your video about northeast Sustainable Development Goals where you said unemployment and poor governance is one of the reasons for the poor performance of the state and increase in insurgency. I agree but incident like this was why insurgency was born in the first place. Hearing this makes me wanna join the movement 🔥 poor innocent souls lost forever 😭
Thank you so much ! I hope many people need to hear and know this !
Excellent rendition of the problem in Nagaland beginning from scratch. To have worked in such a dangerous area and to interact with so many divergent Naga Tribal Chiefs is simply extraordinary. Based on the hearsay stories of friends and news from the media, the insurgency in Nagaland, the experience in living there is simply terrifying. The best part is that Shekhar Gupta has literally audited all the events that took place from the time of Independence and before. Thank you Shekhar.
The tailpiece is a gem. I don't know what to say. Nobody else could have told us this. The fact that these tribal leaders found India trustworthy gives me goosebumps. Was their trust because we are a democracy or because we Indians tend to love our diversity?
democracy
bcoz india believed in discussions debates and general consensus before taking a decision instead of general majoritarian politics which is being practiced now..whenever a govt went to thump its chest on the basis of majoritarian political power..it has lost support in areas with minorities..eg.mizoram nagaland punjab and jammu and kashmir...
Very well researched and a great speaker.
However, I am a little discontented because of no mention of the atrocities face by the Nagas.
Our grandparents and parents still live to tell the story of brutal crimes and acts committed by the Indian army. The rapes in our churches, maiming and murdering the innocent, burning villages are just excerpts of the hell faced by our forefathers and elders.
Even if Nagaland becomes a sovereign nation or not; the cries of the innocent souls will always echo in our lands and hills, it will be forever etched in our hearts.
Exactly! Why are those stories never discussed? Is it propaganda on the part of GOI or are the people who make these presentations afraid to be called "anti nationals" or do they simply not know the truth? only a number of us Naga millennials who've read books by some esteemed Naga writers and/or heard oral tales from our elders know about those atrocities meted out to our forefathers by the Indian army. While the rest, such as most Gen Z Nagas and even a number of millennial Nagas would be thanking these presentors for their biased reports and stories . Smh!
His kind of journalism defines true meaning of journalism.Kudos to the level of knowledge you have on Nagaland. Your are powerhouse of Knowledge and mostly upholding the ethic of journalism. I'm Sumi (Sema)
we fail to appreciate IB and Indian Army, and to protect their sacrifice we must bring justice to the current victims
Bring justice to the current victims??? What do you mean?
@@edytha2090
a few innocent nanags were killed, the incident must be investigated by army througly.
@@tony-pc4kd
accidentely killed in a military operation
Fuck the army. They have always been reckless in the Christian and Muslim states.
@@jattmoosewala83 truly said.. this mistake can't be expected from army. Even though my family is from army but then I don't support it. . It's very barbaric and brutal to kill 14 innocent workers..
Thank you Sir, showing your interest on Northeast n especially Nagas. I believe through your podcast many are been benefited.
Have been watching some of your episods. You are thorough with the some historical facts, socioeconomic n culture ect. M impress.
Just my observation. If m not wrong in some of your narration about the history and some incidents, you have missed out or might not be aware. The information you recieved/gather or sources you depends can some time differ from what we know about the facts that happens here in my land. Or narrated by our parents. However, it's very much informative n overall it's excellent. Hope through your podcast, people around the world will enhance their knowledge about the Northeast. Kuknalim
Shekhar Sir, please mentor many journalists under your wing. We need more people who can tell simple stories. We need to declutter our thought process and I feel your way of showing our world 🌎 works and is much needed. I sincerely hope we see more people like you, who do not use a cookie cutter technique of showing history/news/facts.
Thank you sir, this is the third time I am watching this, and everytime I watch it, it is gives me new revelation and the real inside history of the nagas struggle for independence.
Good in-depth journalism again by Shekhar sir! One thing I may suggest is putting links to the other articles and works that you mention in the video for easier navigation.
Fascinating insight into the history of the Nagaland insurgency movement! Well done Shekarji.
Love to visit Nagaland one day!
Love from England ❤✌
Your always welcome
@@Sangmila thank you soo much ❤🙏
@@Sangmila do u guys hate mainlanders??If Nagas r so much against india why r the so many nagas in the indian army?? this is just weird..
i really belived majority of nagas today see themslves as indians,
@@byron-ih2ge no one hates India...Like wtf u got this info...They are agitated against AFSPA...
@@sandiptoroy3647 u sure about that? even the nagas?
Nagaland is a free and independent country, it has been illegally occupied by India.
Free balochistan first
And you are delusional as a drunkard...
Free balochistan first
Free Balochistan First
One of the very best from Mr. Sekhar Gupta.
Sir, your experience is an asset for us all.
He doesn't know very well about Nagas....
Great show SG, but would have been great if you could have tied up the recent killings within your story
Punishment should be delivered to those responsible and in future army should be cautious with such things
@@007skumarajay
Had you said the same thing if the people died in firing were your family members?
@@kashutosh9132 he is too much nationalist I believe in our army but if we shouldn't punish the culprits this can may happen to us and who knows this may lead to coup in our country....
@@007skumarajay so you mean no action should be taken you mean no Accountability ?? Wow great thought..
Thank you so much Sir ,
I love how you described each one in detail
I used to go to my Granddad(R.Luikham) and listen to the stories
but after he passed i feel like i need to know more about our history its really fascinating to hear those stories
Perfect Explaination. Thank you Sir🙏
We need more episodes like this one, about all the other States
He will not talk about the southern states. People have been requesting a CTC episode about Andhra govt pretty much ruining the state. He said he would take a look at the issue a week ago and promptly forgot about it.
Your research was exemplary . Felt guilty and remembered to resubscribe 😂. Congratulations SG and team
Wow! So well researched.
Huge fan of impartial journalism.
The immense amount of experience and application of that experience for betterment of knowledge-hungry people. SG sir is simply amazing. #ctc is more of Grandpa's fables, but more Productive. XD
Thanks for doing an amazing homework, however there is a very important and most crucial reason why the insurgency could not really die till today in Nagaland Or NE in general and in part why this protracted negotiations:
1. It's important for everyone to know what a tribal people thinks,what are the things closest to their heart and intertwined with their way of life. And remember North East tribal are not like Mainland tribals either by looks Or mindset as in N.E. they are in total control of their own land Or State since the time of their forefathers(People due to their ignorance clubbed them like mainland Indian tribal which is totally so wrong. Example in Nagaland,Nagas are the administrators of their own state, everything is run by the Nagas themselves whether the state Police,judicial, etc2 from top to bottom)Therefore,the nagas being a tribal ' LAND,RELIGION and IDENTITY ( culture) are of utmost important. Until these 3 things are not in their hands or they feel that they're not gonna be given full rights as per their satisfaction long term solution will be difficult.
2.Nagas are diverse, you have pointed out correctly,but the tribal blood relations amongst them as a NAGA is too strong which is unbreakable, inspite of such difference. So, why!! Refer the above ( Land, Religion & Identity) to get your answer. These 3 things again binds them together at the end.
It was horrendous how the MP's mic (from Nagaland) was abruptly cut, in Lok Sabha, the other day, when he was trying to inform the the you about some of the other atrocities [During Matters of Urgent Public Interest session/discussion]
Awesome informative episode SG….👌👌👍👍
super sir, today topic very important. thanks sir
Army walked into a well laid trap. The whole event was very well planned including the riots post shootout
Welcome to SG Classes :) I'm loving it
Really Informative journalism. Thanks.
Feeling really bad n sad for the families of innocent victims. My heartfelt condolences to the families of these innocent victims.
The perpetrators must be arrested, fired from their army job and brought to court. They must be punished for murder of the young fellows without excuses.
Extremely sad to know about the incident,really disheartening for all if the people,govt should ensure proper justice and compensation,and make sure these should not be repeated.Peace has been achieved with lot of hard work,these things will harm the integrity of the nation,and the peoples faith in the constitution,
Agree with you
Feeling really bad n sad for the innocent lives lost. It's terrible.
Ib may be i will the credit only to Assam rifles. They were always the anchor
A great lesson to be learned from this video, sir thank you so much for your wish wisdom may God bless you a long life.
One beuty with Nagaland people is when we travel with our woman anywhere in Nagaland ,we are very much safe just because of their special respect for women unlike in many parts of our country.
Many important points are missing Leaders were betrayed they joined hands with the IA. N they shared all the secret's to the IA for money and to gain self power.. jealously and hatred... amongst the Naga's let to the failing of the insurgency. And now it's too late to know the real story, everyone has different stories of their own. The history of Naga's will for ever remain a history.
This story can be brought up as a documentary movie to represent the history of the Northeastern part of India.
Why doesn't print start a story telling documentary series for the history of India. It would be an amazing thing to do. Please go for it ,Sir.
Bring someone who is a Naga and knows our history. I always see Mainlanders speaking for us
Thankyou sirji your story is very clear for students I hoping learn to known among to Nagaland
Another great story Mr. Shekhar.