I give props to the young guy! I've been searching for a cost effective solution to the axle flip. With so many overpriced kits to accomplish such a simple thing I knew there must be a better way. Thank you for this great idea!
Word of advice........take off the shock mounting bolt at the bottom mount first, this is really a good idea if you have gas shocks or coil overs that may be under a great deal of pressure. If you keep the axle assembly balanced on a good floor jack you don't need to disconnect the drive line. Taking the brake lines off so they don't get damaged is a good idea especially when welding or grinding near them. Remember you are going to have to roll down the nose of the differential an 1" or so to get the drive line angle back in proper phase. You want the angle both top and bottom the same. On a standard cab with short bed it will be real close to straight on with no angle at all once you put the axle on top of the springs. The last consideration is your shock is now going to be too long and you will need shorter ones.
I would check the pinion angle for the drive shaft just to make sure there no no stress on the drive shaft or it could be pushing on the trans good job guys .keep it up
I just cut the rivets on hangers moved them up and drilled new holes, cat 8 bolts, and I'm done. Cut the coil springs in front. 1977 f150, also quick and easy.
Awesome... Simple and efficient. I'm curious about the front suspension now. Looking forward to do this on my bumpside. BTW, I'm thinking about doing some reversible mods, since the truck is fully stock and I might make it a collectors car in the future... Is it possible to avoid the cutting of that piece and just weld another one on the lower part of the axle, so I can mount the springs back on the top one if I ever want the stock ride height without messing with the assembly of those U shaped parts that hold the spring to the axle? Thanx
Enjoyed watching a youth learning, and working on their own vehicle, but I didn't see him checking the pinion angle to make sure that there is not any drive line vibration
pb blaster young grasshopper...PB blaster is you friend. On these old trucks it is like an IV in the hospital :P Please go back and check your driveline angle.....dont want to bind anything.
I think you guys did a great job I don't understand all the lame comments here half ass and all , so they did it for free and kept 300 bucks in there pocket for other stuff right on ...
With a Dana 44 the axle is not going to hit the frame a Dana 60 F250 will be closer I think the top of the axle will hit the bed before the tube hits the frame
WOW, May I suggest that you use better safety precautions, and you coulda bought the flip brackets for under $10. For the pair, that welder isn't sufficient for welding the spring perches on, and it needs to be .03° up in the front, hopefully you don't burn up u joints replace the rear one with one that has a grease fitting on it and keep it greased, I haven't watch you do the front yet I hope you didn't just cut the spring's down or heat them up,,,
You can buy early 90's explorer coils, those fit really well and they're cheap. I'd get the 4x4 coils though, they're a little bit stiffer and will hold more weight if you have the FE motors.
The 4x4 explorer coils also have a little wider diameter, which fits the spring pocket a little better. As far as stiffness, cutting the stock coils also increases the spring rate.
Not sure where you live but in Canada it's illegal to heat or weld any suspension component, not saying that it is never done, but opens you up to a huge lawsuit in a accident
Yea , it was one of the "sudden death" questions when I wrote my joureymans, never heat , flame cut or weld brakes steering or suspension. Answer it wrong and you had to start your 4 years of training from the beginning
Please no one ever do any of this because you need to know what your pinion angle is before and you should flip your axle not the perch but without pulling your numbers dropping a plumb bob finding your angle here truck could end up with a crosswalk or the ass the truck while driving slowly walks itself out to one side of the other also without the correct pinion angles you could seriously damage your drive shaft nothing worse than making your truck look cool doing your first burn out and reaming your drive shaft or snapping the yolk
If you used the same shocks, you're going to need new ones. Putting a vice grip on the shaft will mar the surface. Also I believe you were using a torque wrench to break the u bolt nuts loose. That'll throw the wrench out of calibration. Good work for a young guy though.
Ya we replaced the shocks anyway just forgot to show that in the video. And that was just a breaker bar we didnt have a torque wrench back then. And thx man!
You're not going to get away with cutting front springs. They have specific shape for top and bottom mounting. I doubt anyone around can bend the I-beam that much to put it back in alignment.
Yep. To keep the camber u must have an old school alignment shop bend the beams. Had mine done in Monroe louisiana. The only place around my neck of the woods.
Love seeing youth doing this kind of stuff. No better feeling of accomplishment as a kid, than building cars.
Totally agree! Nowadays you rarely see kids like us doing thos stuff. But it's so much fun Haha. New build coming soon
I give props to the young guy! I've been searching for a cost effective solution to the axle flip. With so many overpriced kits to accomplish such a simple thing I knew there must be a better way. Thank you for this great idea!
Glad you found it helpful Raymond!
Did you drop your truck yet? Russell I just stated to mod my 66 Effie
Kids gonna be a baddass ,a dying breed im 37 now I remember those days. Love that bumpside
Good job guys ,we need more people like you around
Word of advice........take off the shock mounting bolt at the bottom mount first, this is really a good idea if you have gas shocks or coil overs that may be under a great deal of pressure. If you keep the axle assembly balanced on a good floor jack you don't need to disconnect the drive line. Taking the brake lines off so they don't get damaged is a good idea especially when welding or grinding near them. Remember you are going to have to roll down the nose of the differential an 1" or so to get the drive line angle back in proper phase. You want the angle both top and bottom the same. On a standard cab with short bed it will be real close to straight on with no angle at all once you put the axle on top of the springs. The last consideration is your shock is now going to be too long and you will need shorter ones.
Nice job fellas! I remember my first DIY axle flip 20 years ago lol
Weird looking back on time. Remembering things you did I'm still doing it lol 20 years later myself.
We will just keep on keeping on my man
@@michaeltillery1674 what did you do for front suspension?
I would check the pinion angle for the drive shaft just to make sure there no no stress on the drive shaft or it could be pushing on the trans good job guys .keep it up
There is a square nut on the top of the shock shaft, just use a small opened wrench on to hold it as you undo the main nut.
I just cut the rivets on hangers moved them up and drilled new holes, cat 8 bolts, and I'm done. Cut the coil springs in front. 1977 f150, also quick and easy.
That truck is in really good shape, It'll probably last another 50 years!
Awesome... Simple and efficient. I'm curious about the front suspension now. Looking forward to do this on my bumpside.
BTW, I'm thinking about doing some reversible mods, since the truck is fully stock and I might make it a collectors car in the future... Is it possible to avoid the cutting of that piece and just weld another one on the lower part of the axle, so I can mount the springs back on the top one if I ever want the stock ride height without messing with the assembly of those U shaped parts that hold the spring to the axle? Thanx
You can remove the overload spring and one leaf spring and accomplish the same thing in one hour.. .
And improve the ride quality
Nice look especially because its a Ford
I always try to do my own work too take pride in what you do
I respect it! Love diy
Great work guys ! Very impressive, and the results are sweeeeeet !
Looks good! Will be doing the same to our ‘77 “ Ol’ Sketchy “
Russell Bros. Garage I just stated to mod my 66 Effie
Nice job 👏looks really nice!!! I'm a FORD truck guy
Good tutorial here for me and my friend who has a Ford 1973 F-100 longbed
AWSOME Guys
Stay productive
Above all be SAFE
Sweet stuff man I started building my 75 dentside f100 when I was 16
New build coming soon guys dont worry! Hint: Its GERMAN!!!
So on a real note how did you do the front with the I beams
Do you have a video on lowering the front?
Thanks this was the video I needed to watch gonna go finish my flip
Glad to hear it helped
Dis you finish your flip? Russell I just stated to mod my 66 Effie
That's great now let's see you do the front end that's where the real fun begins with a Ford front end
Great job guys 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Just got one today. An ready to lower it this weekend. Any suggestions???
Did yall have to get a shorter driveshaft? Also do you have a 1 or 2 piece shaft?
What’s your tire and wheel setup and what shocks are y’all using ?
Nice job, I saw another video where the guy had to notch the frame. Did you have any issues with your setup hitting the frame?
Nope just shortened to bump stops
Nice job young man!!
good drop! Lowrider life!!
Did you lower the front in this video or is it stock height?
Bro your ford looks killer .
Awesome video. Great job!
Nice job guys.
Great job guys 👍
I like how you do this. But again you can just buy a 50 dollar flip kit and you don’t have to cut and weld anything.And not everybody has welder.
@Junior Luna where do get the kit from?
You think it’s work on an early 2000s truck?
Good shit my guy
Good job
Nice truck
You took the drive shaft off why?
nice video man! what size of your wheel in the back? thanks
Enjoyed watching a youth learning, and working on their own vehicle, but I didn't see him checking the pinion angle to make sure that there is not any drive line vibration
New sub love the truck I got a 1974 f100 I am thinking about doing this to my truck
Do it. It's very easy you got this man!
Just leave the purches to save any damage on the axle shaft
If you manage to damage the axle shafts attempting anything in this video, you have no business in the garage.
Do you have a video of the roll pan I want to make one for my 74 ford
Great job .
Why take the drive shaft off and break lines off if you have the axle on stands anyway ??
Did you need to do a C-Notch after that?
Sick video !
Nice job man
Dude! I'm 17, and I have a '70 f100 also
Do you need to shorten the driveshaft?
Did you lower the front?
That’s awesome 👏
The same shocks still work?
How many hours did this take?
pb blaster young grasshopper...PB blaster is you friend. On these old trucks it is like an IV in the hospital :P
Please go back and check your driveline angle.....dont want to bind anything.
You should’ve back it out and let us see how she looks from the front angle, looks good from the back
Could I technically do an axle swap with this same theory of cutting the perch?
Where did ya find coilovers for that truck
What size tires are you using front and rear?
Exelent brother
How did you do the front of the truck
Yo, late to the party and I haven't checked yet, but do you know how to lower a 95 f150? Like same process or what?
Nice video!! just subbed!!
I think you guys did a great job I don't understand all the lame comments here half ass and all , so they did it for free and kept 300 bucks in there pocket for other stuff right on ...
Thx for the support. Always appreciated
Whats your size tire on front and rear?
Hey man! What’s your tire setup? Looks great! I have a 92 I’m planning on doing a 3/5 losing kit on er
any worries of the axle hitting frame rail?
Nope just gatta send it
Where did you get your bolt on roll pan?
Lmc truck
I see that you didn't C-Notch the frame. Is the axle not hitting the frame when you hit a speed bump?
Nope if you cut the bump stops at the half way point it rides great
With a Dana 44 the axle is not going to hit the frame a Dana 60 F250 will be closer I think the top of the axle will hit the bed before the tube hits the frame
Any problem with the driveline getting in a bind? The lower you go the more it shoves your driveshaft forward.
Nope no issues at all. We angled the axle more ass seen
@@ArcticAutoWerks it's looks killer!
@@johnweisinger7390 thankyou!
Did you notch it off
How does it ride?
You from Santa Cruz ?
But how does it handle?
Probably should cnotch the frame cause prolly gonna hit the axle
Is this a long bed
any idea if this would work on a 77f250
Yes for sure
Did you have to notch the frame
Oooooo so that’s why you wear gloves.
WOW, May I suggest that you use better safety precautions, and you coulda bought the flip brackets for under $10. For the pair, that welder isn't sufficient for welding the spring perches on, and it needs to be .03° up in the front, hopefully you don't burn up u joints replace the rear one with one that has a grease fitting on it and keep it greased, I haven't watch you do the front yet I hope you didn't just cut the spring's down or heat them up,,,
We dont have the truck anymore however yes we just cut the springs. On a truck like this that's 100% fine.
@@ArcticAutoWerks WOW, OK.........WOW
@@kennyvelez8060 triggered
I hope the new owner fixes it properly before using it .
love the video HATE THE MUSIC had to mute the vid
How much inches did it low????
6
What about the front
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Do you have one on the front too? I have the twin i-beams but i dont want to start it and run into a issue
I just cut the springs two coils and sent it. Drives great
You can buy early 90's explorer coils, those fit really well and they're cheap. I'd get the 4x4 coils though, they're a little bit stiffer and will hold more weight if you have the FE motors.
The 4x4 explorer coils also have a little wider diameter, which fits the spring pocket a little better.
As far as stiffness, cutting the stock coils also increases the spring rate.
If only I knew how to weld
Guys need a torch to heat them bolts up.
Not sure where you live but in Canada it's illegal to heat or weld any suspension component, not saying that it is never done, but opens you up to a huge lawsuit in a accident
@@lesgallivan4159 never heard of that. I'm in Ohio. No laws like that hear.
Yea , it was one of the "sudden death" questions when I wrote my joureymans, never heat , flame cut or weld brakes steering or suspension. Answer it wrong and you had to start your 4 years of training from the beginning
Please get some PB blaster & an impact gun! This was hard to watch...
iMaGeArChY imagine using pussy shit, be a man who just uses power tools all the time 💀
How much do you think I paid for the truck? Comment Away!
Budget Builds bruh on god ur family rich you spent a milli on that bruh ain’t no way you spent less love you bb❤️
@@James-G ahaha one mil for sure😂
I would say you probably paid 3500 to 4000
@@jamiehaggett5586 nope only paid 750!
Budget Builds that's like my dream truck and you can't even find one below 5000 we're I am
Un 10 👍👍👍
Please no one ever do any of this because you need to know what your pinion angle is before and you should flip your axle not the perch but without pulling your numbers dropping a plumb bob finding your angle here truck could end up with a crosswalk or the ass the truck while driving slowly walks itself out to one side of the other also without the correct pinion angles you could seriously damage your drive shaft nothing worse than making your truck look cool doing your first burn out and reaming your drive shaft or snapping the yolk
We wanna kno is HOW IT RIDES...?
Iviin Scot fucking good bitch
If you used the same shocks, you're going to need new ones. Putting a vice grip on the shaft will mar the surface. Also I believe you were using a torque wrench to break the u bolt nuts loose. That'll throw the wrench out of calibration. Good work for a young guy though.
Ya we replaced the shocks anyway just forgot to show that in the video. And that was just a breaker bar we didnt have a torque wrench back then. And thx man!
@@ArcticAutoWerks what’d you use to replace the shocks?
No sale gratis ocupas ayudante y mucha herramienta que no toda la gente tiene en casa
Great, jjust minute 6:15 next time wear gloves 👍🏻
Easy! Now show me how you plan on doing the front for free.
Cut off 1 and 1/2 coils no more or buy 2" lowering springs on e bay
Easy! take some leafs out the front
You're not going to get away with cutting front springs. They have specific shape for top and bottom mounting. I doubt anyone around can bend the I-beam that much to put it back in alignment.
Yep. To keep the camber u must have an old school alignment shop bend the beams. Had mine done in Monroe louisiana. The only place around my neck of the woods.
That torque wrench is useless now.