I'm positively addicted to this series. I live in the US and I'm living vicariously through your adventures. Thanks for posting these thoroughly enjoyable vlogs.
Anyone that sees all your videos schools should be allowed to buy a course completion letter and T-Shirt ! You have taught more people about the British Canal Network than all Others combined. Besides that, they are very relaxing and enjoyable to watch. Thank You! GlennFHoward
I think that I may understand your feelings about tunnels as we have tunnels on the Blue Ridge Parkway in the Smokie Mountains of North Carolina. Some tunnels are so long that you can not see the end. Any lights from the auto seem to be absorbed into the tunnel wall. It is scary.
Yes, that was a short tunnel. However, as slowly as you were going, I still might have explored what was above it and met you on the outlet. That tree had the perfect globular shape of a tree growing without any crowding; a fine specimen.
I was leery of tunnels at first since I had been warned about drips and such, but then I did a very long tunnel in the Black Country on a rare very hot day in England. It was sublime. I also like them when it is bucketing down rain for obvious reasons. You seem to be having a great time. It will be nearly a year before I get on a narrowboat again. I can't wait. We await the recovery from shoulder replacement of our English friend who has the job of lock cranker. When he is fit again, off we go. Until then I will watch your travels with envy; other than when the weather is as bad and cold as it is expected to be in Merrie Olde this week.
+Franklin Levin The weather is not being terribly kind at the moment; lots of showers then a hint of sun and just as you think you might move off again, it chucks it down once more. Also been a bit windy today and more on the way tomorrow!
Phrase of the week " Another Flipping Tunnel" Seriously.....How in the world could anyway down vote these awesome videos. Really? Oh...I see now what was offensive, That middle section one of the solar panels was crooked....AHHHHHHH. Yeah that was it...I guess that ruined it for everyone who noticed. Ha Ha Ha. Thanks again for such quality output. You sure are a nice guy to offer this stellar content up for free. Kudos!!
+Brian Simpson It's like the proverbial noisy clock in the Rolls Royce, to which the engineer said "yes, we must fix that damned clock". I'll sort the solar ;-)
Suburban Rugby by narrowboat plus tea, cake and paying work -- great. Shame about the rain, county air (haha) and the towpath mud! Thanks for the share.
I find the wide variety of conditions along the bank very interesting. You do seem to be at the mercy of whatever you tie up next to. Thanks for taking us along. Cheers!
Loving these videos. Slowly getting through them in the hope of catching up. My love of narrow boats started several years ago when I lived near the Pontcysyllte Aquaduct in Trevor, North Wales. I would go jogging over the Aquaduct in the early hours and pass many narrow boats moored up, cooking breakfast. Mmmm The smell of cooking bacon still takes me back to them days. Hope to live on a narrow boat when I retire in 18 years. A dream I hope to make a reality. These videos are just making me want the life style even more. Well done. 😃
The "very 'tree-like tree'" reminds me of the valley oaks and coast live oaks that dot sere fields and hillsides in California ... so often they stand alone, steadfast and distinctive in silhouette. So yes! Totally get the enjoyment of a proper tree-like tree. 😊
I watch constantly but post rarely. I'm watching my way up from episode #1, although I do "cheat" and watch the newer video's, so I guess I'm getting it from both ends. OMG, that didn't come out right, now did it? But it fits Mr. CrusingTheCut's sense of humour, which is good and wicked!
Hmmm, looks like I've watched all your vids now, 2 day marathon!! Guess I've now gotta wait for a new one! Subscribed, really interesting vlogs thanks alot take care, Steve :-)
Wonderful videos - I'm chomping my way through them gradually but was pleased to see someone who actually talked about Rugby, my home town, on their way through. I too have travelled along that stretch of the Oxford in a boat hired from Clifton Cruisers, although I do not have one of my own. Just a bit of trivia - the viaduct you pointed out carried the down line from Market Harborough, long since disused, as are the lines going in 5 of the 9 different directions you used to be able to travel from Rugby. The arm near Clifton Cruisers is a truncated section of a loop in Brindley's original canal that was straightened out - there are many. Well, back to watching your videos, and thank you very much for them.
Thank you. Yes, I've done another video about the Clifton arm being dug out. Sorry, can't remember which vlog it was but scroll through the channel and you'll find it. Also includes the work at Hillmorton.
Thanks, yes I found it and happened to be watching it as you replied. I was wrong, I think, about that arm being part of a disused loop, as I've looked at an O.S. map from around the 1900's, and it was then being used to reach only as far as Clifton Wharf, the first stop out of Rugby on the Market Harborough railway line.
the "old gits rule" reminded me of another bit of graffitti I saw that was equally tolerable and humorous whilst on a week long canal cruise, there was a bridge with the words "more mindless vandalism" rendered in typically artistic bubble writing
Good day ithink your videos are great. One thing you might want to show in passing are the grooves cut into the brickwork where the ropes that were used to pull the boats caught. best regards.john b
Going up the Champlain canal in NY a few years ago I passed a golf course and had a ball land only 2 feet away. Got a sorry and a wave from the duffer and all was well. Carry on 😎
Great vlog again. Look forward to them with a glass of wine in hand after a hard day in the office. If you turn up at Crick I'm buying the ale you old git.Ken
You could used to be able walk into the old Newbold tunnel until around the 1990's when they bricked it up. There's still the the remains of the original canal and boat yard you can walk along behind the church.
Now here would have been nice to have a peek at that days work... well at least a snap of the long boat. So I am still (or should I say back at looking at your blog ) tony Australia
The last few times I've gone through Newbold tunnel the walls were illuminated by multi coloured flood lights all along the inside. You would have liked it even more then :)
I see on the news periodically severe flooding in parts of England. Do the canals flood over their banks in heavy rains? I am throughly enjoying your journey and your style of Vlogging. My only disappointment is that I will soon be running out of videos. You'd better get cracking on more videos. LOL :)
In heavy rain, largely no - drains and overflows take care of it. But last winter, yes, severe flooding did cause damage. One canal is still not fully re-opened I believe.
I grew up in the town of New Boston Michigan USA my next door neighbor their last name was Newbold wonder if it is any relation to the tunnel great Channel brother thank you for sharing
Hi David, in your videos you frequently mention cheese sandwiches. Myself and my wife are also lovers of a good old cheese sandwich. We just wondered if you was a cathedral city kind of guy and do you dabble in branston also? Thanks Frankie
Another question form the US of A, while steering do you have to stand all the time, really haven't seen a seat or such you could use, your vlogs are very informative and I love the views of county side etc., can't see why anyone would give you a thumbs down, but always one or two that don't like anything :0) Cheers
I’m curious: during a previous video I noticed mile markers on the canal....not kilometers? During this video I heard you describe the tunnel as being 250 yards long ( in lieu of meters ). Is this because it’s a canal and not a roadway? I love the videos, thank you.
Curious, early in this series you mentioned spiders scurrying about. Did you have an exterminator come out, or do some spraying or dusting yourself? I'm no arachnophobe, but the thought of trying to sleep with spiders running about would be a bit much.
No exterminator or spraying. I don't like to kill them. By and large the spiders have stayed outside the boat, in the engine bay and well deck. Get the odd one inside but I just chuck them out.
Say friend... How do you feel about tunnels. YOu are not really clear about that. (Back to watch all videos for the 2nd time. Mostly as background noise why weaving ropes and cooking and things.)
3:18 Why do you hate tunnels, because you might have to reverse out as another boat might be coming towards you? Have you ever had to reverse out I wonder?
I only hated them when I started out because they were dark, sometimes twisty, and required concentration as I got used to steering the boat. I don't mind them now. You should never have to reverse out (in theory) because the tunnels are two way or, if one-way then there is a system in place so that the traffic is managed.
@@slothrr776 That makes no sense whatsoever. If reversing is so easy that you can go through every tunnel backwards, then there's nothing to fear from reversing, so you should go through tunnels forwards, knowing that you can reverse out if needed. Conversely, if reversing through tunnels is difficult, why make yourself do it every single time, just to save having to occasionally do the difficult thing?
hmmm, cattle odor. Don't ever come to West Texas, USA. You will suffer several hours of this odor whilst traveling at 80mph. It will be replaced by sulpher, a by product of oil drilling. mmm, the smell of money.
Pig odour is even worse, though. There's a stretch of road leading up to one of the major mountain passes in southern Norway where it seems that every other farm you pass, raise pigs. And in the autumn, they spread the manure out on the fields...
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I'm positively addicted to this series. I live in the US and I'm living vicariously through your adventures. Thanks for posting these thoroughly enjoyable vlogs.
Thank you for watching :-)
I love your videos, the part in this one that got me was "I love this very tree like tree, so I recorded it".
I'm just weird, what can I say? ;-)
Your channel is so fun to watch; really enjoy your comments. Stay safe and keep on boating!
this is better than watching TV !
You're not the only old git who enjoys a well-shaped tree.
:-)
I miss your vlogs so i have started at # 1, so i can watch them from the beginning. Take care
Glad you like them!
Totally awesome. Thanks for another mini trip for me .... Looking forward to the next one....
Anyone that sees all your videos schools should be allowed to buy a course completion letter and T-Shirt !
You have taught more people about the British Canal Network than all Others combined.
Besides that, they are very relaxing and enjoyable to watch. Thank You! GlennFHoward
I think that I may understand your feelings about tunnels as we have tunnels on the Blue Ridge Parkway in the Smokie Mountains of North Carolina. Some tunnels are so long that you can not see the end. Any lights from the auto seem to be absorbed into the tunnel wall. It is scary.
Yes, that was a short tunnel. However, as slowly as you were going, I still might have explored what was above it and met you on the outlet. That tree had the perfect globular shape of a tree growing without any crowding; a fine specimen.
I was wonderdering how you earn a living - now I know = making videos. Another super film with an excellent commentary. A lovely journey
I had no idea that I had my own tunnel. Even better, you quite like it too. You're welcome. LOL 3:19
I was leery of tunnels at first since I had been warned about drips and such, but then I did a very long tunnel in the Black Country on a rare very hot day in England. It was sublime. I also like them when it is bucketing down rain for obvious reasons. You seem to be having a great time. It will be nearly a year before I get on a narrowboat again. I can't wait. We await the recovery from shoulder replacement of our English friend who has the job of lock cranker. When he is fit again, off we go. Until then I will watch your travels with envy; other than when the weather is as bad and cold as it is expected to be in Merrie Olde this week.
+Franklin Levin The weather is not being terribly kind at the moment; lots of showers then a hint of sun and just as you think you might move off again, it chucks it down once more. Also been a bit windy today and more on the way tomorrow!
Phrase of the week " Another Flipping Tunnel" Seriously.....How in the world could anyway down vote these awesome videos. Really? Oh...I see now what was offensive, That middle section one of the solar panels was crooked....AHHHHHHH. Yeah that was it...I guess that ruined it for everyone who noticed. Ha Ha Ha. Thanks again for such quality output. You sure are a nice guy to offer this stellar content up for free. Kudos!!
+Brian Simpson It's like the proverbial noisy clock in the Rolls Royce, to which the engineer said "yes, we must fix that damned clock". I'll sort the solar ;-)
1:59 Milk, bread and cake. YES! My essentials too.
I have to say, I enjoyed this one the most so far. 4 stars. 1 star off for not long enough. :)
I love those types of trees, so thank you ever so much.
Suburban Rugby by narrowboat plus tea, cake and paying work -- great. Shame about the rain, county air (haha) and the towpath mud! Thanks for the share.
Lots of mud!
I find the wide variety of conditions along the bank very interesting.
You do seem to be at the mercy of whatever you tie up next to.
Thanks for taking us along.
Cheers!
Just love your vlogs so interesting and such a good commentary
Thank you William.
Loving these videos. Slowly getting through them in the hope of catching up. My love of narrow boats started several years ago when I lived near the Pontcysyllte Aquaduct in Trevor, North Wales. I would go jogging over the Aquaduct in the early hours and pass many narrow boats moored up, cooking breakfast. Mmmm The smell of cooking bacon still takes me back to them days. Hope to live on a narrow boat when I retire in 18 years. A dream I hope to make a reality. These videos are just making me want the life style even more. Well done. 😃
Glad you like them. No hurry to catch up, just work on "canal time" :-)
Super uploads.
I've always dreamed of canal boat life.
You are blessed matey.
Thank you, glad you like them. Yes, I'm enjoying boat life immensely.
Wow, the area behind the tree-like-tree sure has changed. Glad to see they missed the tree though.
Another great vid, being from the US I really love the views of the country side, keep them coming, Cheers...
Will do!
The "very 'tree-like tree'" reminds me of the valley oaks and coast live oaks that dot sere fields and hillsides in California ... so often they stand alone, steadfast and distinctive in silhouette. So yes! Totally get the enjoyment of a proper tree-like tree. 😊
I watch constantly but post rarely. I'm watching my way up from episode #1, although I do "cheat" and watch the newer video's, so I guess I'm getting it from both ends. OMG, that didn't come out right, now did it? But it fits Mr. CrusingTheCut's sense of humour, which is good and wicked!
Thanks David, another entertaining episode 😃👍👏👏👏👏
Love Your Vlogs & Your Humour. I cannot understand why anyone would give You thumbs down. Jealousy maybe. x
Who knows? It doesn't bother me as lots have people have said they like them :-)
Particularly enjoyed this one, as I know Rugby VERY well :-) x
I've got to know it over winter, having been at Yelvertoft. Mostly the Tesco!
Mmmm.... you almost made the flavours in the air tangible!
Yes I'm ploughing my way through your videos ... thumbs up along the way of course!
I do hope the ordeal is not too much like ploughing.
Not laborious at all I'm pleased to say...
Phew
A very present show.
Pleasant...
I've been following your journey on Google Maps. It's almost like I'm there with you. :)
Great to follow you on your waterways odyssey..
:-)
Hmmm, looks like I've watched all your vids now, 2 day marathon!! Guess I've now gotta wait for a new one! Subscribed, really interesting vlogs thanks alot take care, Steve :-)
+Steve H What, even the new one I uploaded just two minutes ago??!!
+CruisingTheCut now that's good timing!!
Wonderful videos - I'm chomping my way through them gradually but was pleased to see someone who actually talked about Rugby, my home town, on their way through. I too have travelled along that stretch of the Oxford in a boat hired from Clifton Cruisers, although I do not have one of my own. Just a bit of trivia - the viaduct you pointed out carried the down line from Market Harborough, long since disused, as are the lines going in 5 of the 9 different directions you used to be able to travel from Rugby. The arm near Clifton Cruisers is a truncated section of a loop in Brindley's original canal that was straightened out - there are many. Well, back to watching your videos, and thank you very much for them.
Thank you. Yes, I've done another video about the Clifton arm being dug out. Sorry, can't remember which vlog it was but scroll through the channel and you'll find it. Also includes the work at Hillmorton.
Thanks, yes I found it and happened to be watching it as you replied. I was wrong, I think, about that arm being part of a disused loop, as I've looked at an O.S. map from around the 1900's, and it was then being used to reach only as far as Clifton Wharf, the first stop out of Rugby on the Market Harborough railway line.
Oh no, you were right. The arm was part of the old route.
"But look at how tight this bridge is!"
*Harecastle tunnel stares in tunnel from the future*
the "old gits rule" reminded me of another bit of graffitti I saw that was equally tolerable and humorous whilst on a week long canal cruise, there was a bridge with the words "more mindless vandalism" rendered in typically artistic bubble writing
Very enjoyable viewing once again. Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for watching!
There are, for sure, longer, darker and bendier tunnels then Newbold. There's a very good pub right by it, too.
Good luck with the next stretch!
I know, I've done some. Missed the pub, alas :-(
Great vid as always, nice start to my Saturday, cant wait for more.
+Mike Hurley Cheers Mike
Good day ithink your videos are great. One thing you might want to show in passing are the grooves cut into the brickwork where the ropes that were used to pull the boats caught. best regards.john b
I like the very treelike tree too.... :) ...
I'm so pleased I'm not the only one!
Great Video as usual love following your travels this time the the very natty hat made it that bit more special have a great time
Essential for sunshine and tunnels!
I love your vlog. I miss living in UK.
Thanks. Where are you now?
Fall River in Massachusetts in USA..I use to live in Whalley Range Manchester so being a,Girl Guide leader we got to canal boat a bit. Loved it.
:-)
Going up the Champlain canal in NY a few years ago I passed a golf course and had a ball land only 2 feet away. Got a sorry and a wave from the duffer and all was well. Carry on 😎
Weird in the best possible way 🙂
I can appreciate a good tree-like tree. Absolutely.
🙂🐿🌈❤️
Love it as always, keep up the good work.
I'll try my best
Excellent David
I watched the video, leisure hour is my kind of boat!
It is a nice boat, definitely.
The smell of animal farms has a unique smell all of it's own. Like the video
Great video as always. I heard this morning that the BBC show with John Sergeant boating the round Britain is coming back again soon
ITV show! And yes, tonight I think.
Hi love your videos you have helped me with getting my boat really nice thx and keep up the work
Thanks :-)
my boat is getting blacked and then I will be on my way to rugby any way love the vids keep it up and live the adventure
great vid, love it, keep em coming
Ahh, nothing like the perfume of livestock farming.
Great vlog again. Look forward to them with a glass of wine in hand after a hard day in the office. If you turn up at Crick I'm buying the ale you old git.Ken
I'll be at Crick! ;-)
Awesome bridges! always intersting.
You could used to be able walk into the old Newbold tunnel until around the 1990's when they bricked it up. There's still the the remains of the original canal and boat yard you can walk along behind the church.
Should buy yourself a couple of led portable spot lights . Rechargeable USB these days . Very bright !! Might help light up those dark tunnels
Now here would have been nice to have a peek at that days work... well at least a snap of the long boat.
So I am still (or should I say back at looking at your blog )
tony Australia
Not a long boat! That's what the Vikings roamed around in. It's a narrowboat. :-)
The tunnels are where you must face the dark side :-) Beware of the revenge of the 5th!
The last few times I've gone through Newbold tunnel the walls were illuminated by multi coloured flood lights all along the inside. You would have liked it even more then :)
Like the Hindhead tunnel (road tunnel)? Awesome.
I see on the news periodically severe flooding in parts of England. Do the canals flood over their banks in heavy rains? I am throughly enjoying your journey and your style of Vlogging. My only disappointment is that I will soon be running out of videos. You'd better get cracking on more videos. LOL :)
In heavy rain, largely no - drains and overflows take care of it. But last winter, yes, severe flooding did cause damage. One canal is still not fully re-opened I believe.
What is an old Git? I love the variety you have by living on the canal....every few days brings another town.
An old gi is a grumpy old person who moans about everything.
looks fun
:-)
Missed this one too and the following as well. 🇦🇺👍🤔🤔🍍🍍🍷🥂
Starting Location
Oxford Canal Bridge 69:
www.google.com/maps/@52.3696548,-1.2216859,536m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
Clifton Cruisers:
www.google.com/maps/@52.3799417,-1.2352096,318m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
Two Aqueducts and Rugby Arm:
www.google.com/maps/@52.3891018,-1.262282,398m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
Newbold Tunnel:
www.google.com/maps/@52.3929123,-1.2870927,325m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
Brinklow Marina:
www.google.com/maps/@52.4022342,-1.3224323,317m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
Ending Location:
www.google.com/maps/@52.4080071,-1.3480347,279m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
I grew up in the town of New Boston Michigan USA my next door neighbor their last name was Newbold wonder if it is any relation to the tunnel great Channel brother thank you for sharing
And I have to agree about tunnels I hate them .
I too was pleased to pass through Newbold short one ahh air
:-)
I adore your sense of humor.
I'm addicted to your channel and am binge watching. I need help ( and a boat 😀)
Hell of a tree
you need to get over the tunnel thing.
Hi David, in your videos you frequently mention cheese sandwiches. Myself and my wife are also lovers of a good old cheese sandwich. We just wondered if you was a cathedral city kind of guy and do you dabble in branston also? Thanks
Frankie
I like a bit of Cathedral City too!
Good call on the tree-like tree. So many trees aren't tree-like, it's very disappointing.
Very glad you agree. It's not a topic that gets enough exposure.
I too enjoy trees that appear to be haunted by the ghosts of slightly demonic cows
Another question form the US of A, while steering do you have to stand all the time, really haven't seen a seat or such you could use, your vlogs are very informative and I love the views of county side etc., can't see why anyone would give you a thumbs down, but always one or two that don't like anything :0) Cheers
I stand. Some sit on the edge of the hatch. Some have little seats :-)
It's time for a go pro with waterproof case I think, would make some nice headcam footage of going through locks.
Maybe but head cam footage is always so wild and wobbly, all over the place. Makes me feel seasick watching it.
Usual brilliant video blog -
just a quick question, you mentioned your camera
not being waterproof - what camera do you use?
It's a Sony AX33. Not really used from choice, I just happened to have it. It does have excellent stabilisation though, which helps!
I too like tree like trees.
Did someone say CAKE !!!
Sorry forgot to mention that the grooves are on the corners of the bridges.
How the hell do you get 2 boats side by side through that tunnel only looked wide enough for yours
Inches to spare on either side
" no need for shakespearean histrionics this time" I beg to differ theres always a need to monologue in iambic pentameter
👍
After a couple of days boating you already seem to get the hang of it. Tunnels, locks, bridges, traffic, shops and service, nothing special ;-)
Hello, Tesco's - facial recognition action?? Oh, you brought food, not fancy expandable "whot-sit's", next video??
Could you fit a piece of pipe to the stern or maybe even the tiller and stick a patio umbrella up for those rare ( LOL) soggy British days?
Yes but you likely couldn't move like that as it would get ripped off by the bridges.
I’m curious: during a previous video I noticed mile markers on the canal....not kilometers? During this video I heard you describe the tunnel as being 250 yards long ( in lieu of meters ). Is this because it’s a canal and not a roadway?
I love the videos, thank you.
We use miles in the UK, generally.
Will you ever go to the canals in London ?
I shall try not to, they're very congested. I'll get near to London then turn round!
The training centre at the end of the Rugby Arm has moved to Stockton. www.willowwrentraining.co.uk/
Ah! My Nicholson's guide must be out of date. Cheers
PS what's up there now then?
MOOOOOOO!
Curious, early in this series you mentioned spiders scurrying about. Did you have an exterminator come out, or do some spraying or dusting yourself? I'm no arachnophobe, but the thought of trying to sleep with spiders running about would be a bit much.
No exterminator or spraying. I don't like to kill them. By and large the spiders have stayed outside the boat, in the engine bay and well deck. Get the odd one inside but I just chuck them out.
Have you thought about getting a bike? That would be great.
Considered it but I'm not much of a biker, they're too dangerous (from other road users) I reckon.
Say friend... How do you feel about tunnels. YOu are not really clear about that. (Back to watch all videos for the 2nd time. Mostly as background noise why weaving ropes and cooking and things.)
What do you do with your car whilst away from the marina?
It stays in the marina or at another location.
3:18 Why do you hate tunnels, because you might have to reverse out as another boat might be coming towards you? Have you ever had to reverse out I wonder?
I only hated them when I started out because they were dark, sometimes twisty, and required concentration as I got used to steering the boat. I don't mind them now. You should never have to reverse out (in theory) because the tunnels are two way or, if one-way then there is a system in place so that the traffic is managed.
@@CruisingTheCut I always reverse INTO tunnels. That way, if I meet something wide and have to come back out, I can do it in forward gear. Simple.
@@slothrr776 That makes no sense whatsoever. If reversing is so easy that you can go through every tunnel backwards, then there's nothing to fear from reversing, so you should go through tunnels forwards, knowing that you can reverse out if needed. Conversely, if reversing through tunnels is difficult, why make yourself do it every single time, just to save having to occasionally do the difficult thing?
Winding hole?
What's your question?
Is a winding hole a turning basin?
Ah. Yes, a turning point.
hmmm, cattle odor. Don't ever come to West Texas, USA. You will suffer several hours of this odor whilst traveling at 80mph. It will be replaced by sulpher, a by product of oil drilling. mmm, the smell of money.
Pig odour is even worse, though. There's a stretch of road leading up to one of the major mountain passes in southern Norway where it seems that every other farm you pass, raise pigs. And in the autumn, they spread the manure out on the fields...
There was light at end of that tunnel. :) not a fan of tunnels either, tunnelphobia.
I did a 325 yard one today. It was OK but I may have found my limit.
why are there so many coconuts in the black country canal
See www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=11124&hl=coconut