For me, there's very few scenes in gaming that are as impactful. This hit me hard. Not just as a work of fiction, but as a life lesson. There's a reason why I'm planning on getting a tattoo of the Azem stone.
Honestly I'd argue this is one of the most powerful scenes in all of gaming, assuming the person experiencing it has the full context of the entire game before it. I thought nothing would get me as hard the "A smile better suits a hero" scene in HW...then this scene came along.
The moment they made the visual parallel with the WoL's walk towards Emet at the end of Shadowbringers, I let out a sort of "Oh..." and was pretty much unable to do anything for several minutes. My wife had to get up and take a walk. It hits so, so hard.
In my playthrough of the game that was the moment in this scene when I finally popped and my face turned into Niagara Falls. I was holding it together up till then, barely, but when it flashed to WoL approaching Emet I went into some full-on ugly crying.
i know this is over a year old comment. but i was watching this and thinking. you know what would have made it hurt even more, is if you saw Hythlodaeus among the group of ancients in the following scene, mask on and arms raised as they try to sacrifice themselves. i dont know if that would take away from him just walking away from Emet, but i feel like it woulda made it hurt even more.
I kinda read it as she was pushing us forwards and giving us the strength to walk on. ardbert helped repair our soul and keep the light from overtaking us, but venat was the one pushing us forwards.
@@raiyano7436 For thousands upon thousands of years, she endlessly laboured to set the plan in motion. Recruiting thousands upon thousands of heroes to shape Etheirys to what it is in present time, basically making the planet one giant artwork, a huge testament to why life is worth living, and the WoL is the messenger sent to deliver it to every edge of the universe. Like one big mathematical proof, but instead of numbers it is pure emotion.
even back then it was brutal.. but when it came to this cutscene and the fight with Hydaelyn, finally giving "your answer" to her.. it's been awhile since i cried so for a video game..
Venat is such a great character. Super main character vibes, hell she out main character even the WoL. As a Vet player, I'm happy to see more and more Vtubers really getting into the game. Sad I didn't learn about Lunachhiii sooner.
I remember this whole segment was amazing. The moment Elidibus told me I'm going back in time to Elpis, I was stoked, and everything there was so good. Then to cap it off with this scene, I was literally speechless, I just had to sit there for a good while and take it all in lol.
Oh, another streamer reacting to the one of the best cutscenes in the game... *gets tissues* Ok I'm ready. This scene traumatised me the first I saw it when the expansion launched. Had to step away for like 30-40 minutes.
It's amazing how Venat chose against surrendering. Had they given in to Zodiark, it would have been a dwindling demise. Cutting and cutting people until there were none left to sacrifice. But Venat chose for the future. By sundering the world, she started a cascading effect that culminated when we again were given the option of salvation: Fighting or Fleeing. And then It was the People, not Venat, who chose to Fight. It wasn't even the Scions or the WoL but the congregation, in a call back to the previous question, and this time they didn't falter. They chose to fight for their world and their place in the universe and for those who couldn´t fight back. Venat was proven right. She believed all along in mankind. She chose to have faith in the people, and when it mattered, many thousand years later, people stood before the Calamity, not as victims but as agents of their own fate.
@@TriniD92 It's actually ludicrous. FFXIV is up there with psychedelics for me in terms of life-changing experiences. What they've created is nothing short of a miracle.
Yeah... This was a big kick in the feels, I was silently pondering everything for at least 10 minutes at the end of it. How can anyone emotionally hold it together as a person in this position? WoL's need serious therapy!
And to think that the timeline from ARR to endwalker is at most 1 year, maybe a bit more is crazy short time to get trauma after trauma after trauma. No wonder fordola literally change after seeing our memories
Finally, a reaction video that I watched that gets it, the music gives so much context and pain to this scene... that watching it without crying seems just crazy to me. I feel so vindicated by you actually feeling something super intense from this
Ever since I've done this part of the MSQ, every time I go back into Unbinding Coils of Bahamut Ultimate raid, Bahamut Phase feels VERY different because of this music. God they did a tremendous job...
No matter how hard I try to re-watch this scene, I ended up teared up and nose cloged hard, no game really made me cry this multiple times with one scene before And it's effects stronger when I watched it as someone felt emotional along witn me lmao
I consider this to be the turning point not just of the expansion, but of the entire game. When all the plot threads and conflicts finally resolve and come together.
This Cinematic broke and healed me. It gave me Purpose, presented to me that there is only one way, and that is forwards. And It was the best Cinematic in the Game so far.
I remember sitting in discord with my friends as we all played it at launch, with me being in the lead on story completion. I broke down crying in discord, being one of the less obviously emotional of the group, and the team crybaby just audibly went "oh noooo...". She knew if it ruined me that it must have been some heavy shit.
@@alexiosblake9804 hydalen gave up on her people so she could see some rando she just met again, her speech was cringe, and my moral code considers the sundering an evil act.
How amazing would it have been to come out of THAT cutscene and instead of the music from the Solar they hit you with one last La HEE out of nowhere for old times sake
Even though Endwalker introduced a lot of great music this expansion, this cutscene really made me appreciate Answers more than any other video game soundtrack I've ever heard.
I don't have much sympathy for Emet-Selch at that point in his timeline. But MAN can you imagine the absolute soul-deep HORROR he felt seeing Venat coming for him? All of creation and there is ONE person who is not going to accept a single justification or equivocation about what he's doing.
Me as I watch this depressed laying in bed: Venat: To find the strength to continue, when all strength has left you. To find joy, even as darkness descends. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 This gave me strength to finally get out of bed and do some stuff
@@FaceFish9 ??? I wasn't referring to this specifically but, by wiki definition, "A cutscene or event scene (sometimes in-game cinematic or in-game movie) is a sequence in a video game that is not interactive, interrupting the gameplay." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutscene
I started and finished Elpis in one go, it was late night (or early morning) when I got to this scene. I think I was in shock , because actual emotions came to me later, when I couldn't sleep for the remainder of the night. I did cry during this cutscene, but it was nothing compared to the aftermath, when I actually comprehended what and how it was, for Venat, for the everyone, and how it all went with "Answers"... I can't hear "Answers" without shedding tears now. I hate you, YoshiP, and love you so much.
absolutely no chance. it was obviously written backwards to match the song after the ShB setup. There was much retcon since what they said in early games
I don't like her, she is a good character and all, but she is just as much a villain to me as Hermes was. Hermes at least had his memory of events deleted, Venat outright CHOSE to keep silent about the actual cause of the end of days and murdered her entire race for not figuring out something she could have told them. Screw Venat.
Remember that the events in the Elpis had to remain a closed loop. Had Venat openly spread word of the final days and the vast majority believed her, its possible that Zodiark would never had been summoned and the world would have been consumed by ever greater dangers caused by the dynamis effected, out of control creation magic. Meaning we would never had existed to go back in time in the first place to help set in motion the events that lead to them discovering Meteion and her conclusion. She also didnt stay silent, she chose her allies to confide in (The Watcher being one of them that we know of) and as she saw her people give in to despair, wanting to go back to their easy life, becoming tempered by Zodiark, only stalling for more time instead of moving forward and fighting, so she SUNDERED the star and Zodiark, dividing the world and people's souls into 13 shard (7 of which being forcably rejoined now). She believed that in making man face hardship without a grand power to easily hide behind they would find their own path forward, a way to defeat despair (The Endsinger) because a race that had only known peace and bliss wasn't equipped to fight against it. They weren't murdered, their souls we divided. Its why the WOL souls is noted to be the same colour as Azem's. When people die their Soul is returned to the Aetherial Sea until new life is born for that soul to inhabit. So after the sundering the Azem of the source lived and died over and over, being rejoined with other shards of Azem as Calamities occur until we come along, the same with all other life in the source and its shards. Also as a last note one advantage of the sundering is that since we're no longer such Aether dense beings, we have the slight ability to manipulate dynamis in times of high stress and emotion to help us transcend and BREAK our LIMITS :P
@@kayser3636 1. The time paradox argument... a decent argument to make... if we didn't have a situation in game that proves that time paradoxes do not exist in FF14. G'raha Tia existed in the first because he was trapped in the tower and was freed in a timeline where we died, and yet, we survive and we removed G'raha from the tower, meaning he never jumped into the first in the 'FIRST' place! (Eh?!) Anyway, cheap joke aside, this proves that Venat could have interfered because as said, time paradoxes do not exist. 2. I call it murder because people call Emet a murderer, even though he simply was putting together shards and those that 'died', don't actually truly die, they join the lifestream and are reincarnated with the same soul. So, by your logic, if what Venat did wasn't genocide, then what Hades did wasn't genocide either. 3. No one, not Emet, not Hythlodaeus, NO ONE, but her own creations knew of the actual cause of the Final Days, naturally the people who summoned Zodiark thought they were in the right, as they had no idea of the actual cause of the Final Days, much like Hermes, she came to a flawed conclusion with a flawed premise. 4. We have seen full-fledged Ascians manipulate Dynamis before, what with Elidibus being able to cast limit breaks and Hades and Hythlodaeus being able to shape Thule to help us in beating the Endsinger. Which leads me to my last point: 5. We haven't proven shit, because let us be quite honest, it was the Ascians who saved our bacon more then once. Had they any pettiness in their bones, Elidibus would have told us to go fuck ourselves when we asked about Elpis, meaning we would have never learned of the Endsinger, much the same as the Ancients. And Hades could have also told us to go to hell and leave us stranded there without a paddle. We didn't achieve shit.
@Minerva Hekate (The Drowsy Librarian) I, to an extent, agree. The ancients aren't black and white, but I will always side with Hades over Venat, as Hades only ever wanted peace for us. Which would require the rejoinings. Which wouldn't have been necessary in the first place, had Venat instead talked with her people instead of going behind their backs, sundering them and dooming their souls to a eternity of pain, misery and death. Also, Hermes was being melodramatic, considering the beasts in question weren't just killed as a first resort, they tried to adjust its behavior to be less volatile and less dangerous to the rest of the planet. The guy got upset over the equivalency of paper with drawings on them. As their creations don't usually possess a soul anyway, while they remain concepts. And what they say and what we see happen are two different matters. We see the ancients be unaffected by Dynamis, but we saw both Elidibus, Emet and Hythlodaeus manipulate Dynamis with the help of aether.
She knew who she was dealing with; that explaining what was going on would not help. She gathered together those who would understand. But there weren't many. As Emet says during the Final Day, his beliefs and ideas are inviolable, invincible. He and others would have fought for the sunk cost of restoring the past, to the bitter end. *And they did.*
This scene was a big problem for me. Having Venat knowingly and deliberately perform the sundering in order to over rule the will of the rest of her people was...not a good look.
@@KuroganeKeith I don't see Venat as benevolent as Emet or Hermes was. Venat isn't justified in her actions. So was Emet's. So was Hermes's. But our current world is an amalgamation of their past actions and mistakes. Being born into a world with bloody history is not a sin, and even if we've learned of their reasonings, we don't have to approve of their actions to save our world as it is. There is no sin in holding onto what we have.
@@KuroganeKeith where are you getting that zodiark needed more sacrifices, hes been protecting the world for the past 12k years without any in a weakened state, the third round of sacrifices (plants and animals) was to free the first two, who by the way were in constant pain.
@@DawnAfternoon i hate that the writers made us complacent in hydalyns actions, especially considering how they had to change the rules of time travel to do it.
@@Peashooter521 Initially, I did too, but the Omega epilogue questline fortunately gave me the option to rebuke all three of the Ancients passing judgement on mankind. That oddly enough kept me into my character.
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For me, this was and still is the most impactful and most important scene in the whole of Final Fantasy XIV.
For me, there's very few scenes in gaming that are as impactful. This hit me hard. Not just as a work of fiction, but as a life lesson. There's a reason why I'm planning on getting a tattoo of the Azem stone.
How about catboi can has cheeseburgers? That is up there too
Honestly I'd argue this is one of the most powerful scenes in all of gaming, assuming the person experiencing it has the full context of the entire game before it.
I thought nothing would get me as hard the "A smile better suits a hero" scene in HW...then this scene came along.
It is the cutscene where Yoshi P wanted to triple-check the dialogue and voice acting between all languages.
This is one of the greatest cutscenes in the of video games.
“No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. “
Best line in the game. So good
The moment they made the visual parallel with the WoL's walk towards Emet at the end of Shadowbringers, I let out a sort of "Oh..." and was pretty much unable to do anything for several minutes. My wife had to get up and take a walk. It hits so, so hard.
In my playthrough of the game that was the moment in this scene when I finally popped and my face turned into Niagara Falls. I was holding it together up till then, barely, but when it flashed to WoL approaching Emet I went into some full-on ugly crying.
Did your wife make it to paradise?
The Feels Train started hitting when we realized Hythlodaeus leaving Emet was him going to get sacrificed to bring forth Zodiark
i know this is over a year old comment. but i was watching this and thinking. you know what would have made it hurt even more, is if you saw Hythlodaeus among the group of ancients in the following scene, mask on and arms raised as they try to sacrifice themselves. i dont know if that would take away from him just walking away from Emet, but i feel like it woulda made it hurt even more.
Quest name: "Thou Must Live, Die and Know"
My immediate thought: "This is gonna sting."
What got to me the most was seeing Venat and it cutting back and forth showing that shes always walked with us down our path.
I kinda read it as she was pushing us forwards and giving us the strength to walk on. ardbert helped repair our soul and keep the light from overtaking us, but venat was the one pushing us forwards.
@@raiyano7436 For thousands upon thousands of years, she endlessly laboured to set the plan in motion. Recruiting thousands upon thousands of heroes to shape Etheirys to what it is in present time, basically making the planet one giant artwork, a huge testament to why life is worth living, and the WoL is the messenger sent to deliver it to every edge of the universe. Like one big mathematical proof, but instead of numbers it is pure emotion.
Thou must grief, cry and mourn
"When you know the lyrics to the song, it hits harder"
Truer words haven't ever been said.
Once you know the full story that song is BRUTAL.
even back then it was brutal.. but when it came to this cutscene and the fight with Hydaelyn, finally giving "your answer" to her.. it's been awhile since i cried so for a video game..
Awww.
Headpats.
It's a strong scene, it's nice that it managed to be this touching
Venat is such a great character. Super main character vibes, hell she out main character even the WoL. As a Vet player, I'm happy to see more and more Vtubers really getting into the game. Sad I didn't learn about Lunachhiii sooner.
I remember this whole segment was amazing. The moment Elidibus told me I'm going back in time to Elpis, I was stoked, and everything there was so good. Then to cap it off with this scene, I was literally speechless, I just had to sit there for a good while and take it all in lol.
Oh, another streamer reacting to the one of the best cutscenes in the game... *gets tissues* Ok I'm ready.
This scene traumatised me the first I saw it when the expansion launched. Had to step away for like 30-40 minutes.
It's amazing how Venat chose against surrendering. Had they given in to Zodiark, it would have been a dwindling demise. Cutting and cutting people until there were none left to sacrifice. But Venat chose for the future. By sundering the world, she started a cascading effect that culminated when we again were given the option of salvation: Fighting or Fleeing. And then It was the People, not Venat, who chose to Fight. It wasn't even the Scions or the WoL but the congregation, in a call back to the previous question, and this time they didn't falter. They chose to fight for their world and their place in the universe and for those who couldn´t fight back. Venat was proven right. She believed all along in mankind. She chose to have faith in the people, and when it mattered, many thousand years later, people stood before the Calamity, not as victims but as agents of their own fate.
This cutscene gutted me emotionally
I started this 4 months ago and it'd already made me cry more than any other game.
I love everything about this game.
When I first went through it, it was like several years ( played since closed beta) slapping you in the face at once
@@TriniD92 It's actually ludicrous. FFXIV is up there with psychedelics for me in terms of life-changing experiences. What they've created is nothing short of a miracle.
Yeah...
This was a big kick in the feels, I was silently pondering everything for at least 10 minutes at the end of it.
How can anyone emotionally hold it together as a person in this position? WoL's need serious therapy!
Level a DRK. Trust me.
And to think that the timeline from ARR to endwalker is at most 1 year, maybe a bit more is crazy short time to get trauma after trauma after trauma. No wonder fordola literally change after seeing our memories
One of the most beautiful songs ever written, in any media. I felt like this story was crafted for me, it was so truly wonderous from start to finish.
Finally, a reaction video that I watched that gets it, the music gives so much context and pain to this scene... that watching it without crying seems just crazy to me. I feel so vindicated by you actually feeling something super intense from this
In my opinion, when it comes to gaming, this is the best cutscene of all time. I literally get chills chills every time & my eye tear up without fail.
Ever since I've done this part of the MSQ, every time I go back into Unbinding Coils of Bahamut Ultimate raid, Bahamut Phase feels VERY different because of this music.
God they did a tremendous job...
The only scene in any game that made me stand up and take a walk to just....think
I can see this 10.000 times and still get emotional about it. goddamn...
No matter how hard I try to re-watch this scene, I ended up teared up and nose cloged hard, no game really made me cry this multiple times with one scene before
And it's effects stronger when I watched it as someone felt emotional along witn me lmao
This scene still gives me chills and almost brings me to tears even after all this time.
This scene completed the circle, and from here onwards a new path
Endwalker really came out swinging with this one.
I consider this to be the turning point not just of the expansion, but of the entire game. When all the plot threads and conflicts finally resolve and come together.
Imagine a scene so powerful I apologised to a fictional being for ever doubting them, tears in my eyes. Nah, couldn't happen >.>
This Cinematic broke and healed me.
It gave me Purpose, presented to me that there is only one way, and that is forwards.
And It was the best Cinematic in the Game so far.
I don't think there was anyone who did not break at this scene.
I remember sitting in discord with my friends as we all played it at launch, with me being in the lead on story completion.
I broke down crying in discord, being one of the less obviously emotional of the group, and the team crybaby just audibly went "oh noooo...". She knew if it ruined me that it must have been some heavy shit.
@@DreadnaughtZero We won but at what cost?... Our Tear ducts :(
this scene made me feel nothing but anger.
@@Peashooter521 why?
@@alexiosblake9804 hydalen gave up on her people so she could see some rando she just met again, her speech was cringe, and my moral code considers the sundering an evil act.
I swear I can't not cry every single time I watch one of these.
i have played this game almost everyday since 2013 and this was 1 of the few scenes that got me
Yea that one is heavy even after seeing ppl go through it so many times
powerful storytelling.
There's one more ahead. It took a lot more out of me than just about any other moment in a game I've played. But it was so very worth it.
How amazing would it have been to come out of THAT cutscene and instead of the music from the Solar they hit you with one last La HEE out of nowhere for old times sake
Such a sweet fox, cat, animal girl. Crying :
Even though Endwalker introduced a lot of great music this expansion, this cutscene really made me appreciate Answers more than any other video game soundtrack I've ever heard.
Yeah the flashes to your character is where is really gets you
I don't have much sympathy for Emet-Selch at that point in his timeline. But MAN can you imagine the absolute soul-deep HORROR he felt seeing Venat coming for him? All of creation and there is ONE person who is not going to accept a single justification or equivocation about what he's doing.
flow and answers are such beautiful yet brutal songs that are hard to listen to after EW
Me as I watch this depressed laying in bed:
Venat: To find the strength to continue, when all strength has left you. To find joy, even as darkness descends.
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
This gave me strength to finally get out of bed and do some stuff
Anyone who hasnt gotten even a little emotional at one cutscene or another really needs to get themselves examined.
not really a cutscene.. but a fight.. with Hydaelyn, i couldn't see what was happening the first few times i fought her..
@@FaceFish9 ??? I wasn't referring to this specifically but, by wiki definition, "A cutscene or event scene (sometimes in-game cinematic or in-game movie) is a sequence in a video game that is not interactive, interrupting the gameplay."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutscene
Had to take a week break from MSQ after this scene ...
I had the exact opposite reaction honestly. Was never so motivated to finish the MSQ.
I started and finished Elpis in one go, it was late night (or early morning) when I got to this scene. I think I was in shock , because actual emotions came to me later, when I couldn't sleep for the remainder of the night. I did cry during this cutscene, but it was nothing compared to the aftermath, when I actually comprehended what and how it was, for Venat, for the everyone, and how it all went with "Answers"...
I can't hear "Answers" without shedding tears now. I hate you, YoshiP, and love you so much.
This song was written back at the end of 1.0. Yoshi P the madman had this story planned out since 2013.
absolutely no chance. it was obviously written backwards to match the song after the ShB setup. There was much retcon since what they said in early games
I hate this cutscene I can't watch it without feeling sad
I don't like her, she is a good character and all, but she is just as much a villain to me as Hermes was. Hermes at least had his memory of events deleted, Venat outright CHOSE to keep silent about the actual cause of the end of days and murdered her entire race for not figuring out something she could have told them. Screw Venat.
Remember that the events in the Elpis had to remain a closed loop. Had Venat openly spread word of the final days and the vast majority believed her, its possible that Zodiark would never had been summoned and the world would have been consumed by ever greater dangers caused by the dynamis effected, out of control creation magic. Meaning we would never had existed to go back in time in the first place to help set in motion the events that lead to them discovering Meteion and her conclusion.
She also didnt stay silent, she chose her allies to confide in (The Watcher being one of them that we know of) and as she saw her people give in to despair, wanting to go back to their easy life, becoming tempered by Zodiark, only stalling for more time instead of moving forward and fighting, so she SUNDERED the star and Zodiark, dividing the world and people's souls into 13 shard (7 of which being forcably rejoined now). She believed that in making man face hardship without a grand power to easily hide behind they would find their own path forward, a way to defeat despair (The Endsinger) because a race that had only known peace and bliss wasn't equipped to fight against it.
They weren't murdered, their souls we divided. Its why the WOL souls is noted to be the same colour as Azem's. When people die their Soul is returned to the Aetherial Sea until new life is born for that soul to inhabit. So after the sundering the Azem of the source lived and died over and over, being rejoined with other shards of Azem as Calamities occur until we come along, the same with all other life in the source and its shards.
Also as a last note one advantage of the sundering is that since we're no longer such Aether dense beings, we have the slight ability to manipulate dynamis in times of high stress and emotion to help us transcend and BREAK our LIMITS :P
@@kayser3636 1. The time paradox argument... a decent argument to make... if we didn't have a situation in game that proves that time paradoxes do not exist in FF14. G'raha Tia existed in the first because he was trapped in the tower and was freed in a timeline where we died, and yet, we survive and we removed G'raha from the tower, meaning he never jumped into the first in the 'FIRST' place! (Eh?!) Anyway, cheap joke aside, this proves that Venat could have interfered because as said, time paradoxes do not exist.
2. I call it murder because people call Emet a murderer, even though he simply was putting together shards and those that 'died', don't actually truly die, they join the lifestream and are reincarnated with the same soul. So, by your logic, if what Venat did wasn't genocide, then what Hades did wasn't genocide either.
3. No one, not Emet, not Hythlodaeus, NO ONE, but her own creations knew of the actual cause of the Final Days, naturally the people who summoned Zodiark thought they were in the right, as they had no idea of the actual cause of the Final Days, much like Hermes, she came to a flawed conclusion with a flawed premise.
4. We have seen full-fledged Ascians manipulate Dynamis before, what with Elidibus being able to cast limit breaks and Hades and Hythlodaeus being able to shape Thule to help us in beating the Endsinger.
Which leads me to my last point:
5. We haven't proven shit, because let us be quite honest, it was the Ascians who saved our bacon more then once. Had they any pettiness in their bones, Elidibus would have told us to go fuck ourselves when we asked about Elpis, meaning we would have never learned of the Endsinger, much the same as the Ancients. And Hades could have also told us to go to hell and leave us stranded there without a paddle. We didn't achieve shit.
@Minerva Hekate (The Drowsy Librarian) I, to an extent, agree. The ancients aren't black and white, but I will always side with Hades over Venat, as Hades only ever wanted peace for us. Which would require the rejoinings. Which wouldn't have been necessary in the first place, had Venat instead talked with her people instead of going behind their backs, sundering them and dooming their souls to a eternity of pain, misery and death.
Also, Hermes was being melodramatic, considering the beasts in question weren't just killed as a first resort, they tried to adjust its behavior to be less volatile and less dangerous to the rest of the planet. The guy got upset over the equivalency of paper with drawings on them. As their creations don't usually possess a soul anyway, while they remain concepts.
And what they say and what we see happen are two different matters. We see the ancients be unaffected by Dynamis, but we saw both Elidibus, Emet and Hythlodaeus manipulate Dynamis with the help of aether.
She knew who she was dealing with; that explaining what was going on would not help. She gathered together those who would understand. But there weren't many. As Emet says during the Final Day, his beliefs and ideas are inviolable, invincible. He and others would have fought for the sunk cost of restoring the past, to the bitter end. *And they did.*
This scene was a big problem for me. Having Venat knowingly and deliberately perform the sundering in order to over rule the will of the rest of her people was...not a good look.
That or keep sacrificing lives for Zodiark...
The lesser of the two evils.
At least Venat is benevolent
@@KuroganeKeith I don't see Venat as benevolent as Emet or Hermes was. Venat isn't justified in her actions. So was Emet's. So was Hermes's.
But our current world is an amalgamation of their past actions and mistakes. Being born into a world with bloody history is not a sin, and even if we've learned of their reasonings, we don't have to approve of their actions to save our world as it is. There is no sin in holding onto what we have.
@@KuroganeKeith where are you getting that zodiark needed more sacrifices, hes been protecting the world for the past 12k years without any in a weakened state, the third round of sacrifices (plants and animals) was to free the first two, who by the way were in constant pain.
@@DawnAfternoon i hate that the writers made us complacent in hydalyns actions, especially considering how they had to change the rules of time travel to do it.
@@Peashooter521 Initially, I did too, but the Omega epilogue questline fortunately gave me the option to rebuke all three of the Ancients passing judgement on mankind. That oddly enough kept me into my character.
I still tear up watching people through this scene.
This was...expertly done
🥲