Got a couple of 260 Remingtons. Both are very accurate with the Nosler ballistic tip ammo .It’s just getting very hard to find . I like the caliber a lot more than the Creedmoor. Excellent video , keep them coming.
I'm a 6.5 mm fan. I always thought the .260 was about the perfect deer cartridge. That .308/7mm-08/.260/.243 family is super efficient and super accurate. Hard to improve on. I have no idea why the .260 didn't take off. If figured the Creedmoor was be a dud but what do I know? It's popular and the .260 isn't. No matter to you, you have dies and will wring out even better accuracy to boot! Nice rifle!
@@cw2a They all do it. Why else do you think there are so many gun magazines? Because there's enough ad money circulating in the industry to support them all.
@@joewoodchuck3824 No, it's about getting manufacturers to build rifles in it. Also, the Creedmoor has the longer neck and 20° Shoulder angle. Most Creedmoor Rifles come with an 1:8 twist, opposed to the 1:9 twist found on most 260's. There is nothing wrong about both cartridges. Depends on what you are looking for.
@@DuRöhre4711 It's both, as at least some (possibly many) gun companies work with or are otherwise connected to ammunition companies in a symbiotic relationship. It makes sense to do that from an engineering as well as a marketing standpoint. Sometimes even the same name. Winchester and Remington are two famous examples.
I had two .260 Remington's built on Mauser Yugo Model 24 actions. One was a bull barrel I made for a friend of mine and mine was a lighter barreled one both were fitted with Adams And Bennett barrels from Midway. Same twist rate only different contours both finished with the same reamer for head spacing after lapping the bolt lugs and truing the action contact shoulders. I loaded all of the ammunition my friend ever shot he never bought any factory he would bring me the fired brass and I loaded 120 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips. I tried several different bullet weights for mine and it shoots the 120's fair but it seems to like lighter bullets better. My friend never complained about accuracy and he shot lots of deer and pigs over the years unfortunately he is no longer with us and he left his rifle to one of his uncles. I put his in a Choate stock mine is in the original military stock only reshaped and glass bedded. I did put it in an Archangel chassis type stock to do load development and now it's back in the wood stock. When I first shot these rifles there wasn't much brass available so I necked down some .308 for some testing then went to factory .260 brass from some loaded ammunition I tried and then bulk brass. The twist rate in These Adams and Bennett barrels must be a little slow anything above 120 grains tend to open up. This round generates quite a bit of heat and long strings of fire tend to really affect group size. That's a nice looking rifle with a little handloading you will be happy with it. All of the Mausers I have had that are chambered in the .308 base cartridges require a little tweaking of the Mauser claw extractor to get them to feed smoothly sometimes just changing extractors will do it.
I'm not surprised at all that the Superformance didn't group well. I've never found them to be particularly accurate in anything I've tried them in. I work at a gun shop/indoor range and zero around 100 rifles each year. Very rarely does Superformance "perform super" on paper. That extra velocity does not lend to great accuracy in most cases.
Thanks for another good video. I own a 260-AI (Ackley Improved), and it is a stellar performer on Western game where shots can be rather long and winds always an issue. The 6.5mm bullets we use have high BC's (ballistic coefficients), which help them reduce wind drift at longer ranges and maintain higher velocity and energy. Typically, we use the 140-147 grain bullets, and with the right bullets, the 260-AI even works well on elk size game.
To add a little history, the 6.5 x 55 Swede was designed in the early 1890s and the 6.5 x 54mm M/S was designed around 1901. The 6.5 Mannlicher Schonauer cartridge actually started life as a miltary round in the greek model of 1903 rifle, but both the rifle and the cartridge really made its name in the sporting fields. Thanks for the video! Rat
What an explosion on those water jugs. Great potential for the deer woods. The .308 never let me down, its baby brother should follow nicely in its wake. Great looking rifle!!! Very interested in what your load experimenting will yield.
Try this on sighting in, totally clean barrel. Sight in with lead bullets and see what u get. But if u want to shoot just Copper clean again and just shoot copper. And check groups. For some reason copper bullets dont mix shooting after each other , watch ron spomer, has a couple video's on it messing with groupings
Stick to lighter bullets, the rifle twist is not good for the heavier 6.5 bullets, Which is why the 260 never caught on the the 6.5 Creedmoor thrived as it was developed as a long range target caliber.
I happen to have around 50 rounds of factory .260 Rem., and have no use for it. Would love for you to have it. If you're interested, where should I send it? Thanks for all of the great videos and information. Thomas, Mississippi.
This is 100% REMINGTONS fault. Look back at ant Cartridge they offer. They do minor adverting and just let sportsmans word of mouth make or break a Cartridge Too bad. Hornady saturates and one would think anything they offer was a gift from god himself.
Remington designed it with the wrong barrel twist. The 6.5x55 which this mimics, ballistically did its best work with heavier bullets. Remington designed the 260 to take light bullets. If Remington had made the barrel twist for heavier bullets like the 6.5 Creedmoor then the Creedmoor would never have been invented.
@elund408 No one knows what the thinking was at Remington when they brought the 260 out, but in the early days, target shooters jumped on it, which certainly was not Remingtons target market. Long-range shooters were building rifles with tight twist barrels on long actions that allowed them to seat the bullets long. Now everyone knows that short actions are better because they are more rigid, (tongue somewhat in cheek), so hornady introduced the 6.5 creedmoor to create a dedicated target cartridge that would work in the short actions with the heavy bullets seated out. Not long after it's introduction, though, it was being marketed for everything. Nothing here that the old 6.5 Swede or M/S cartridges from a hundred years ago couldn't do with today's technology.
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Got a couple of 260 Remingtons. Both are very accurate with the Nosler ballistic tip ammo .It’s just getting very hard to find . I like the caliber a lot more than the Creedmoor. Excellent video , keep them coming.
I'm a 6.5 mm fan. I always thought the .260 was about the perfect deer cartridge. That .308/7mm-08/.260/.243 family is super efficient and super accurate. Hard to improve on. I have no idea why the .260 didn't take off. If figured the Creedmoor was be a dud but what do I know? It's popular and the .260 isn't. No matter to you, you have dies and will wring out even better accuracy to boot! Nice rifle!
It's about marketing and little else.
100%. Never underestimate the Hornady marketing machine!!
The 260 v Needmore the 260, has slight superior paper numbers.
@@cw2a They all do it. Why else do you think there are so many gun magazines? Because there's enough ad money circulating in the industry to support them all.
@@joewoodchuck3824 No, it's about getting manufacturers to build rifles in it. Also, the Creedmoor has the longer neck and 20° Shoulder angle. Most Creedmoor Rifles come with an 1:8 twist, opposed to the 1:9 twist found on most 260's.
There is nothing wrong about both cartridges. Depends on what you are looking for.
@@DuRöhre4711 It's both, as at least some (possibly many) gun companies work with or are otherwise connected to ammunition companies in a symbiotic relationship. It makes sense to do that from an engineering as well as a marketing standpoint. Sometimes even the same name. Winchester and Remington are two famous examples.
I think this is the 2nd video I've seen on this rifle? I still like it!
I fully agree with your evaluation. Industry needs to sell novelties just markenting . The Sweedish was and still is an excelent hunting calibre!!!
I had two .260 Remington's built on Mauser Yugo Model 24 actions. One was a bull barrel I made for a friend of mine and mine was a lighter barreled one both were fitted with Adams And Bennett barrels from Midway. Same twist rate only different contours both finished with the same reamer for head spacing after lapping the bolt lugs and truing the action contact shoulders. I loaded all of the ammunition my friend ever shot he never bought any factory he would bring me the fired brass and I loaded 120 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips. I tried several different bullet weights for mine and it shoots the 120's fair but it seems to like lighter bullets better. My friend never complained about accuracy and he shot lots of deer and pigs over the years unfortunately he is no longer with us and he left his rifle to one of his uncles. I put his in a Choate stock mine is in the original military stock only reshaped and glass bedded. I did put it in an Archangel chassis type stock to do load development and now it's back in the wood stock. When I first shot these rifles there wasn't much brass available so I necked down some .308 for some testing then went to factory .260 brass from some loaded ammunition I tried and then bulk brass. The twist rate in These Adams and Bennett barrels must be a little slow anything above 120 grains tend to open up. This round generates quite a bit of heat and long strings of fire tend to really affect group size. That's a nice looking rifle with a little handloading you will be happy with it. All of the Mausers I have had that are chambered in the .308 base cartridges require a little tweaking of the Mauser claw extractor to get them to feed smoothly sometimes just changing extractors will do it.
Awesome!
I have a few of these and love them!!
Never had a 260. I have a 6.5/06 in a '98
I'm not surprised at all that the Superformance didn't group well. I've never found them to be particularly accurate in anything I've tried them in. I work at a gun shop/indoor range and zero around 100 rifles each year. Very rarely does Superformance "perform super" on paper. That extra velocity does not lend to great accuracy in most cases.
Thanks for the insight, and for sharing your experience.
Believe that you will love the 260!
Thanks for another good video. I own a 260-AI (Ackley Improved), and it is a stellar performer on Western game where shots can be rather long and winds always an issue. The 6.5mm bullets we use have high BC's (ballistic coefficients), which help them reduce wind drift at longer ranges and maintain higher velocity and energy. Typically, we use the 140-147 grain bullets, and with the right bullets, the 260-AI even works well on elk size game.
50 yards is a long shot in my woods, 20 to 30 more common, can't see much farther.
Always enjoy your videos!!!!
To add a little history, the 6.5 x 55 Swede was designed in the early 1890s and the 6.5 x 54mm M/S was designed around 1901. The 6.5 Mannlicher Schonauer cartridge actually started life as a miltary round in the greek model of 1903 rifle, but both the rifle and the cartridge really made its name in the sporting fields. Thanks for the video!
Rat
I Commend you on hunting ethics Sir - Thank You !!
Funny, I own a 260 rem Savage XT. We seem to have similar shooting interest. Great video
Those little Savage XT's have really caught the attention of many hunters and shooters.
What an explosion on those water jugs. Great potential for the deer woods. The .308 never let me down, its baby brother should follow nicely in its wake. Great looking rifle!!! Very interested in what your load experimenting will yield.
Me too. I have a few loads in mind already.
I've heard that with the all copper bullets that it is necessary to clean all the lead from the bore to get good accuracy from them.
Try this on sighting in, totally clean barrel. Sight in with lead bullets and see what u get. But if u want to shoot just Copper clean again and just shoot copper. And check groups. For some reason copper bullets dont mix shooting after each other , watch ron spomer, has a couple video's on it messing with groupings
I did exactly what you suggested. Ron Spomer is an authority on hunting rifles and calibers. Wish I could meet him some day.
nailed it greatest ever real Andrew Griffith
Thanks, it's my pleasure.
Stick to lighter bullets, the rifle twist is not good for the heavier 6.5 bullets, Which is why the 260 never caught on the the 6.5 Creedmoor thrived as it was developed as a long range target caliber.
I happen to have around 50 rounds of factory .260 Rem., and have no use for it. Would love for you to have it. If you're interested, where should I send it? Thanks for all of the great videos and information. Thomas, Mississippi.
Thanks Thomas, I really appreciate the offer. Please contact me at cumberlandoutdoorsman@gmail.com
Thanks for giving me your contact. I will be in touch. Work has been pretty stressful as of late. Take care, be safe, Thomas, Mississippi!!
On paper, the 260 Rem. should have caught on but did not. Now that the 6.5 CRM has become so popular, the 260 Rem. is becoming extinct.
This is 100% REMINGTONS fault. Look back at ant Cartridge they offer. They do minor adverting and just let sportsmans word of mouth make or break a Cartridge
Too bad.
Hornady saturates and one would think anything they offer was a gift from god himself.
Remington designed it with the wrong barrel twist. The 6.5x55 which this mimics, ballistically did its best work with heavier bullets. Remington designed the 260 to take light bullets. If Remington had made the barrel twist for heavier bullets like the 6.5 Creedmoor then the Creedmoor would never have been invented.
Anything based on the .308 case will never become extinct.
@elund408 No one knows what the thinking was at Remington when they brought the 260 out, but in the early days, target shooters jumped on it, which certainly was not Remingtons target market. Long-range shooters were building rifles with tight twist barrels on long actions that allowed them to seat the bullets long. Now everyone knows that short actions are better because they are more rigid, (tongue somewhat in cheek), so hornady introduced the 6.5 creedmoor to create a dedicated target cartridge that would work in the short actions with the heavy bullets seated out. Not long after it's introduction, though, it was being marketed for everything. Nothing here that the old 6.5 Swede or M/S cartridges from a hundred years ago couldn't do with today's technology.
....that is what is known as "bullet performance" fer sure.