Man I loved your rant at the end and your engagement question. I think at the end of the day I'm really tired of average-by-the-book reviews and what I'm looking for is a real usage phone opinion, like you do, not a fast food review like we have all of the place these days. A long open hearted video is what I prefer, to see the real benefits we have for the product I'm about to buy.
It's been a running theme on the channel for a while now. Makes me sad that nothing much has changed, and we're STILL dealing with the lowest level idea of consumer skills in tech. Always glad to meet a few more geeks that like to dig a bit deeper.
nice review ! Just got mine in black today, love it so far, after years of samsung this feels like a breath of fresh air. Takes a while to configure everything to my likings but so far im impressed.
As a (older) "average consumer" who doesn't have broadband at home, i would love to see how long battery lasts when hotspotting, for me that's an essential thing and as real life as it gets. Thank you Juan for yet another excellent video. 👍
No shade on Oppo. I've always liked their phones (from a distance) The Realme GT 7 pro is a bargain compared to the X8. Unless it's camera performance you're after it's a no brainer. Great review and I love the way you distill the reasons to get a Find X8 pro. Truly a flagship for the next year.
I have had this phome for 4 days and i habe been using the s24 ultra since it was released, pixel 9 pro x for 3 months and the oppo is right up there, one way the oppo destroys both of them phones is the shutter lag , the camera quality is right up there , the zoom beats the galaxy , then the battery is phenomenal
It's fun competition. Always a mix of pros and cons, but I'm really sad folks here in the USA tend to shrug off Oppo/OnePlus. People really missing out on a great option.
Cómo estás ? Sabes estoy en Uruguay y mí amigo tuve el Samsung Galaxy s24 ultra , el iPhone 16 pro , el vivo x200 pro que lo deje porque era ROM china bien o mal extrañas la ROM global . Ahora tengo este oppo y es perfecto casi gemelo en cámaras con vivo salvo que vivo es más completo en video con ese 4k 120 y 8k y otros detalles excelente video saludos desde 🇺🇾
Glad to see Oppo back in Australia. Had a Find X2 Pro for 4 years. Had to upgrade early this year when the software support ended. On a Pixel 8 now miss a lot of Oppo features, especially the side bar and ease of launching split screen mode.
It's boring seeing SAG everywhere. And now we've got the 3g blocking problem. Hoping for more global releases of decent camera phones. The vivo x200 seems pretty neat too especially the smaller option, though oppo is generally quite a slim phone compared to samsung etc
Super jelly! I don't know how it feel about the slightly curved screen. I had a OnePlus 11 and went to a fold 6. I am that boxy guy. I just like that design! But here's one question that I don't remember if you covered,.... how is the coverage of an OPPO in the states?
With every off-phone feature I hear about like the AI editing you discussed, I smell a future cloud subscription fee. I'd prefer things to be done with the internal uberchip too. I don't want to wait for my pic/video data to send out, process, and return. I spend lots of time out of cell reception. It's where I end up taking lots of photos/video. I want to know I got the shot, or close enough, in the moment. Wrong tool for the job? Sure, but it's the tool I always have. I don't use half of the device potential you do, but stand alone camera ability is a consideration when I'm shopping phones. Thanks for your grind. You're a diamond in the fluff.
It may not look like an iPhone or a Samsung, but it looks basically the same as most of the big photo centric Chinese phones. I'd have a hard time telling which one is which among this and the new X200 range for example.
Lol mate what are you talking about they don't all look the same in fact there's only a few select companies that have a similar circular camera bump design 😮💨....and the companies that do have a similar design like oppo and vivo u can easily tell which phone is which not only is the phone name on the back but their trademark camera logo is in their respective camera housing as well and their camera positioning are different....do u know phones? I'm not trying to insult ur intelligence or anything but I just wanted to know who do u believe makes the best camera phone's and which phone u think has the best overall package in terms of build, performance, software, design, camera, and price. Just curious.🙏
@rhythm451 A few like Vivo, Oppo, Xiaomi, Huawei, Honor, Realme If I have to look at a specific design element to differentiate the phone, they all look the same to me. Pixel, iPhone, Samsung, Nubia, Asus, Sony all have their identity, but this on the other hand feels copy and paste in some ways. You can argue that it's needed for the big sensor these phones are using, but the Pixel nails it by placing them in the horizontal bar Even I couldn't say which phone is the best, I'm pretty satisfied with mine. It ticks all the boxes I need. I have some issues with it as no phone is perfect, but I'm OK with it
i think Winlator is probably the app that will make the most out of these new SOCs. For now it runs best on a Snapdragon but maybe with some optimizations we might get better performance on Dimensity too.
I would love for android and apple to start bringing more high end AAA gaming options to mobile. Like Apple did recently with Resident Evil. Especially with larger screens now and even foldables that get tablet like size it totally makes sense
I'm running out of local storage on my P6P, and I'm starting to browse for phones with 1TB of storage. The videos I've seen show this phone going toe-to-toe with iPhone, Samsung, and Pixel, but the OPPO is $400 less than a P9P XL. Insane. I might miss the Pixel editing tools, but I think I might switch to this. Since you've got your finger on the pulse of Dex and stuff, did you check to see if this phone would work with a lapdock? Also, 10:23... was that Tech Spurt??
There is video out for monitors, but no support for a practical desktop mode I could use. We're still a ways off there. And that was Tech Spurt. Good eye 😊
I've watched a LOT of videos from tech reviewers. (Seriously. I've watched a LOT.) I really appreciate you kind of... breaking the fourth wall and doing something different. Because you're right, all the videos are mostly the same. I watched a ton of them because I'm just trying to get a feel for what it'd be really like to use the device... And each video seems to add something SLIGHTLY different. But for the most part they all blend together. Personally, what I really want to see is what makes each device unique -- show me the unique essence, the SOUL of the device you're testing. WHAT MAKES IT TRULY SPECIAL? Find out what that is. Maybe it's raw performance. Maybe it's battery life. Maybe it's the way it feels in your hand. Maybe it's the way it captures video. Maybe it's the selfie camera. Maybe it's the pure prestige of using it. One of my favorite reviews of this phone was by a guy called Orbit; he really showed what using this device is like, he showed what made it special, and he captured it beautifully. I think your video right here is in a similar vein. Anyway, thanks man, and I hope this helps.
Alot better than the s24 ultra. I have both. Wanted to give the Oppo a try. Compared the cameras in alot of scenarios. The Oppo has sharper more dslr like photos. The samsung suffers from ALOT of noise in the photos. Also the macro camera with the 3x lens is alot better. Same goes for the zoom. I like color os more its smoother. Battery is at least 2 hours screen on time better. Overal alot better phone. There are 2 point which i like more about the samsung. Its the anti glare screen and the better colors from the screen. I will sell the samsung, hope that clearls it up for you.
software is such a critical part of smartphones, so one thing I feel is often skipped over is the RAM management of the device OS and consequently how well it lets apps run in the background. This has MASSIVE implications for such seemingly trivial activities as your Email app refreshing (or not!) suitably frequently. I had a China ROM Oppo Find X7 Ultra and the thing just wouldn't let Outlook tick away in the background to get new emails - and no I couldn't tell the phone to make the app sticky because it was installed inside a Work profile, so another frustration which led me to say goodbye to what is otherwise a stellar smartphone!
I never cared about having the latest and greatest, I only need a phone to have a stable software, and good performance for my daily average user tasks. I bought poco F5 last year cause of you, and been hapy ever since, 340$ well spent. And sure in benchmarks my phone gets crushed by this newer phones, but in real life, My poco F5 is still crazy fast and doesnt skip a bit, most flagship processors are overpowered anyways in this day and age. I buy a new flagship killer every 3 years or so, imo is a good balance between having a good phone and not spending a lot. Life is good. Ur one of the few youtubers I trust with the task of reviewing phones. All the best from your average European guy.
I think you need to brand your channel somegadget guy... i have been looking for you all this time because your views and analysis on tech is topnotch.. but oh well, found you now... subscribing...
I start browsing for Vivo X200 Pro to get the camera comparison reviews with the old X100 Pro. And then I watched the comparison with this Oppo Find X8 Pro and I was mind blown of how similar and different the Zeiss and Hasselblad tech in both phones. Now I'm waiting for your review on X200 Pro and your point of views on what you've expected it to be comparing with both X100 Pro and Find X8 Pro.
I'm hoping my network is getting Oppo phones back. They ran the Find X series before the 6 went China only. Compared to the Pixel 9 Pro it's quite interesting! Thanks for the video Juan.
For me, only really stress my phone/battery on travel trips where I take at least 300+ photos a day and use Google maps to navigate around all day. It would be amazing if the phone didn't get hot, stayed bright under the sun and had enough juice to go from early morning to midnight.
G'evening Juan 🤓 . My wife and I are with MetroPCS / T-Mobile and I'm a big OnePlus fan and we both had the Nord N200 5G's until she dropped her phone and broke it recently and had to go get a new one. To my surprise I found out that Metro / T-Mobile have dropped the OnePlus phone line entirely and she wound up getting a Revvl 7 cuz the only other phones that Metro had were Nokia Motorola Kyocera and iPhones 🤕 & it looks like I'll be Outsourcing a new OnePlus phone to upgrade to soon because my Nord n200 is a 64GB , stuck on OS 12 and almost 3 years old. Any suggestions on 128GB's I should look at and did OnePlus change their name to Oppo or something ? 🤔 . Thanks..
Oppo actually is the parent company for OnePlus so basically, besides Oppo having the better cameras, the Oppo and the OnePlus will be almost the same phone under different branding. The OnePlus is also heavily targeted to the US and North American markets unlike the other Chinese brands.
Eh, I totally get not wanting to play "popular" games like Genshin or COD Mobile to show off the phone's performance if you're just not a fan of them, but there's something to be said about using safe, reputable apps and games to test out things like battery drain / performance throttling. Personally to me, I don't see any use in showing off Titan Quest, a game I love but that is played by a mere minority compared to something like Fortnite, Asphalt, Wuthering Waves or indeed, Genshin Impact, as Apple-leaning as the latter games are. I'm not exactly sure what people are supposed to take away from showcasing niche games. People know Genshin runs like crap. Do they know what Wilderless is?
I dont really understand the differences between Mediatek and Snapdragon but having stronger parts doing less work seems like a better deal than a bunch of higher efficiency chips working closer to maximum all the time. If we want phones to replace laptops though, maybe working with Microsoft to have a "mobile windows" will help people start using them as such
Agreed. We need better developer support, which I hope will happen when ChromeOS becomes Android soon. If you want to see a bit more on how these chips compare, I do have that article published on the Patreon www.patreon.com/posts/oppo-find-x8-pro-116415747
I would like to see the same video (which I think you do) being exported using lumafusion and capcut. A couple of side beside of photos from each sensor. (Hasselblad fan here) Signal quality. That's really all I care about. The video editing let's me know where the hardware has improved, cameras have their own ai let's me know what to expect, and signal quality let's me know if it'll work on my network.
To answer your question 99% of tech reviewers aren't rigorous enough in their camera tests. Call it lazy or uninspired, but there isn't realistically gonna be a big difference if all you take photos of is the same desk plant or your pet cat. Increasingly sophisticated camera systems demand that they be used in increasingly difficult & specific situations. Not just the usual night streetscape/city landscape, but shooting at a concert, a sports event in dim light, macro, underwater, etc. I have learned way more about a phone's capabilities from watching sponsored videos by photography TH-camrs, who actually know how to make full use of a camera, than 99% of "tech geek" TH-camrs who spend hours shooting side-by-sides of generic scenes where even a 4 year old S20 would perform with negligible differences.
It was AMAZING. I vibe with that aggressive culture. The people are so inspiring for how they use and solve problems with tech, and the food was AMAZING. I ate my way through Delhi LOL!
Im one of the idiots that likes to buy new phones often, and given the global x8 pro supports almost all of Verizon's bands, I may go to this over the OP13! I would love a battery and real-world performance comparison between the two. The ip65 of my OP12 hasn't held up as i hoped it would, my lower mic (normal calls and right stereo mic) has failed and now i have to use speaker phone for all calls 😢
Yeah. There can be trade offs between hardware and software, but I doubt Android development will progress significantly over the next seven years. The pixel 9 Pro loses a LOT of fights to phones like the Xiaomi 12S Ultra. It's comparable to three year old hardware. That means, supporting it for seven years, those OS updates will likely be smaller, and iterative. While an Oppo likely won't get seven OS updates, it should be well covered for security patches through Google play services updates for a while after it stops receiving OTAs from Oppo. Considering what hardware I'd want to run apps on seven years from now, I'd rather have a 9400 than a Tensor, especially if on device AI gets more demanding.
Oppo has 5 years of Major Android updates and 6 years of security updates. Google's 7 years with tensor are not worth. The OPPO phone will have much better longevity. OPPO is also very fast updates and providing improvements.
given that I encountered MANY slowdowns and throttling with the p9p, I would not purchase another pixel until they are at least comparable with qcom or mtek SOCs.
For me, long term security and OS updates in Pixels are not worth it since its chipset performance is already *a generation behind* the competition at release. * Correction: two generations behind
I'll just stick with my ole Galaxy A52s. I like simplicity. While,, all the bells and whistles are impressive, I find most of it superfluous, I only play games on my phone during brownouts or waiting for my wife to pick out a pair of jeans. I like this phone though, and who knows, maybe someday. GreAT job as always!!
How about the reasoning that the more western oriented brands like Apple, Google and Samsung are more privacy focused. I am not sure, but I get what you mean by comparing the different phone without the brands and that these phones offer far more for the price.
There's no data to really support that. It's more a marketing issue than a real practical difference in privacy I can find. Often it's a xenophobic stance in American commentary to vilify Chinese brands. See also: th-cam.com/video/5mzj6tL8ZnA/w-d-xo.html
@ Thanks man. Thinking about switching from 15 plus to the Vivo X200 pro, Oneplus 13, Xiaomi 15 (ultra) or Oppo Find X8 pro. Maybe I will get the Xiaomi 14 Ultra, but thinking about getting those newer chipsets. I was always a Android guy, but switched to Apple a couple of years ago
They're all nicely mature. Underneath it all is Android 15, so they all can do basically the same thing. It really comes down to a personal preference which skin you like. I feel Vivo has the more conservative layout (looking more like Android 11 in the control panel), Xiaomi has the more professional camera layout, and Oppo/Op are leaning a bit more on the iPhone style animations and fun features. They're all Android 15 though. They're all good.
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17:19 I don't think there is much more you can do to highlight the value of the phones you review. Most reviews touch on all the same "selling points" for major brands as their review, but fail to explore nuances and subtle differences between brands and operating systems.
I feel like I'm trying to push that farther, but it's just not getting through to people who claim to be tech enthusiasts.
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@SomeGadgetGuy not all tech enthusiasts are true enthusiasts. I deal with this in my own field. I watch a lot of tech reviews to get different points of view, but feel like I get the most insight about a device from your videos. I especially enjoy that you review and compare a lot of the "off brand" devices, which are the ones I've been really interested in trying. I'm still really disappointed that there wasn't a Sony release in the US this year.
Wilderless, same developer as Brightridge. Though it's less a game, and more a "fantasy walking experience" LOL. You can get it to stress a phone REALLY hard though.
Watching with LG V60 .. Silly me didn't do enough research a week ago and put deposit on Oneplus 13 while I am back in Hong Kong for couple of weeks from Sydney .. I like the camera button and much better Zoom Lens on Oppo 😓😓😓 Oneplus is 5% cheaper than Oppo Find X8 pro at the shop i went to ..
I hope folks can communicate to Android phone manufacturers that robust dektop modes and video out can help them evolve phones to the next level and end the need for 1000 buck macbook airs
@SomeGadgetGuy you should revisit find x8 and iqoo 13 after two months. Snapdragon 8 elite need time to optimize especially The presence of S25u. Mediatek mostly use arm Cpu and the compatibility with apps is much more likely than Customed one from Qualcomm
I check in throughout the year, but while I expect the 8 Elite to get some polish, I think folks should ALSO expect some performance improvements from the D9400. The D9300 saw some nice optimizations last year.
What really interests me this year, and might *finally* replace my LG V60 is Xiaomi's 15 Ultra, mainly because in the leaks it's looking like they are using the 1/1.4 telephoto sensor used by Vivo in the X100 Ultra and X200 Pro. From everything I've seen, that telephoto camera absolutely annihilates everything else on the market. I refuse to just buy a Vivo because of the *ridiculous* AOD that can't show notifications from anything other than four system apps. *Did you know that, kids? NO TH-cam reviewer will ever mention it to you when they talk about how amazing Vivo's cameras are - that the AOD is basically worthless.* Whenever a new Vivo comes out I have to dive into one of Flossy Carter's hour long phone reviews to see if they've done anything to fix their garbage AOD, and as of X200 Pro, no, they have not, so that camera is off the list.
Now that the wearables like watches and bands are more affordable, most people now have no reason to take out phones and glancing at the AOD. Like you said, AOD are worthless for most people.
If I'm spending over $1000 on a phone, there's really only one reason. And it's probably the only reason why phones should cross $1000. And that reason is the cameras. It can be argued that y-o-y performance is offering diminishing returns and marginal gains. So my question is, does this phone offer a better camera experience than +$1000 phones released in the previous phone release cycle? And if I had to answer my own question...I'd say the answer is probably no. It doesn't seem like it outclasses the Vivo X100 Pro or its own predecessor, the Oppo Find X7 Ultra. In this era of smartphones and technology in general, the concept of value would suggest that it doesn't make sense to purchase a device from the current release cycle. This is something we need to start acknowledging and admitting.
It's tough. I dont think techies should write off SOC performance, and pure brute force compute power has its place in the conversation, but you're not wrong. As SOC prices climb, and other components get more expensive, we'll likely see "side grades" for camera tech from Oppo and Vivo this year.
Samsung fanboys will talk about how OneUI is "just better" or "more customizable" but end up just using the phone for instagram, youtube and phone calls for the rest of the day. Pixel fanboys will just go and say that the "pixel experience is undefeated". There'll be thousands of excuses against this and it's really funny to me how normal people are so quick to defend a product from a corporation that does NOT care about them at all.
A little rivalry or gamesmanship is fun, but the tech scene right now is ratcheted by TH-cam. TH-cam only cares about keeping people watching more video, so the algorithm prioritizes popularity. Especially in North America, we just end up with an echo chamber telling people about the phones they already own. It really hurts competition, and it sucks all the fun out of a good geek debate.
@@SomeGadgetGuy exactly! I have no problems in seeing a proper debate or even poking fun at each other, but these people and most mainstream youtubers seem to always just support the most popular brand. And as you said, it's like an echochamber, there's no way to get out of it. Quite sad honestly. Even if the X200 Ultra comes out with a 1000 dollar price tag, not many people will buy it. That's the sad reality of the extreme propaganda these companies have shown to the masses.
I can confirm, you make a LOT less money when you dont just PRAISE the most popular brands in the USA. Challenging that gets a LOT of people up in their feels. Like, it shouldn't be controversial to point out how good a value these devices are, and how American phones are falling behind in hardware.
Flash placement for prooer shadows is correct like on the op12. (As opposed to Pixel which puts the flash UNDER the lenses creating spooky shadows) As a suggestion for something to do to show the power if these devices,..... Hmmm...... For years now, while driving, I do split screen, i.e. navigation and an audio player (either youtube or pocketcasts) while quickly charging the phone. The phone doesn't overheat, functions properly and charges to 100 percent in a hot minute. Everything functions correctly and I arrive even on short 15 minute trips fully charged. It reaches full so quickly I often wait before plugging in. Doing that as a test, hmmmm possibly you could start at 50 percent and do a 15 minute drive and show where the charge level reached. I dunno. Of course the Dash/warp/vooc chargers make that a breeze, whereas if it were power delivery that would take away some of that advantage. I guess you would have to test both with the proprietary chargers and once with pd, and maybe you would have to put it in the shade..... Gee that is all too messy and involved..... But a suggestion nonetheless. Some of my passengers USED to be surprised and impressed that my phone could charge and not just sit still chargewise while driving...... All while doing split screen.
Hey thanks for the video and it's sort of kills me to watch these cuz we're never going to see this in the States and I spent 20 years in Asia and I was able to get all these brands before and now I see you break them out.
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You want better benchmarks than a Geekbench score? www.patreon.com/posts/oppo-find-x8-pro-116415747
Man I loved your rant at the end and your engagement question. I think at the end of the day I'm really tired of average-by-the-book reviews and what I'm looking for is a real usage phone opinion, like you do, not a fast food review like we have all of the place these days. A long open hearted video is what I prefer, to see the real benefits we have for the product I'm about to buy.
It's been a running theme on the channel for a while now. Makes me sad that nothing much has changed, and we're STILL dealing with the lowest level idea of consumer skills in tech. Always glad to meet a few more geeks that like to dig a bit deeper.
nice review !
Just got mine in black today,
love it so far, after years of samsung this feels like a breath of fresh air.
Takes a while to configure everything to my likings but so far im impressed.
I always love watching and hearing your voice. Its like I'm listening to a radio.
I thought am the only one
I genuinely cannot understand how this channel does not have a million subscribers.
😊
Wait what? I just discovered this channel and judging from the video only i tought it had well over a million subs
As a (older) "average consumer" who doesn't have broadband at home, i would love to see how long battery lasts when hotspotting, for me that's an essential thing and as real life as it gets. Thank you Juan for yet another excellent video. 👍
I'd love to see a Oppo Find X8 Pro x OnePlus 13 comparison video!
No shade on Oppo. I've always liked their phones (from a distance)
The Realme GT 7 pro is a bargain compared to the X8. Unless it's camera performance you're after it's a no brainer.
Great review and I love the way you distill the reasons to get a Find X8 pro. Truly a flagship for the next year.
X8 Pro is £650 with a free smart watch if you trade in a Find X5 Pro
. What company can you trade the find X 5 pro in with?
@@thewalkingvloggingman7152On oppo website
I have had this phome for 4 days and i habe been using the s24 ultra since it was released, pixel 9 pro x for 3 months and the oppo is right up there, one way the oppo destroys both of them phones is the shutter lag , the camera quality is right up there , the zoom beats the galaxy , then the battery is phenomenal
It's fun competition. Always a mix of pros and cons, but I'm really sad folks here in the USA tend to shrug off Oppo/OnePlus. People really missing out on a great option.
@SomeGadgetGuy it's my first Chinese phone since the p30 pro which I loved but we all know what happened next!!
Yeah... I really miss Huawei and Honor in North America...
Cómo estás ? Sabes estoy en Uruguay y mí amigo tuve el Samsung Galaxy s24 ultra , el iPhone 16 pro , el vivo x200 pro que lo deje porque era ROM china bien o mal extrañas la ROM global . Ahora tengo este oppo y es perfecto casi gemelo en cámaras con vivo salvo que vivo es más completo en video con ese 4k 120 y 8k y otros detalles excelente video saludos desde 🇺🇾
Really good job with testing the phone with real life experiments as opposed to useless geek bench crap like every other tech channel does. Subscribed
Render test is awesome, thank you!
Glad to see Oppo back in Australia. Had a Find X2 Pro for 4 years. Had to upgrade early this year when the software support ended.
On a Pixel 8 now miss a lot of Oppo features, especially the side bar and ease of launching split screen mode.
Yes! Especially for how brutal the australian carrier market has gotten. A little glimmer of competition must have been appreciated.
@@SomeGadgetGuy 100%
It's boring seeing SAG everywhere. And now we've got the 3g blocking problem. Hoping for more global releases of decent camera phones. The vivo x200 seems pretty neat too especially the smaller option, though oppo is generally quite a slim phone compared to samsung etc
Excellent content as always, Juan
Super jelly! I don't know how it feel about the slightly curved screen. I had a OnePlus 11 and went to a fold 6. I am that boxy guy. I just like that design! But here's one question that I don't remember if you covered,.... how is the coverage of an OPPO in the states?
Thank you, a seriously good in depth review!
With every off-phone feature I hear about like the AI editing you discussed, I smell a future cloud subscription fee.
I'd prefer things to be done with the internal uberchip too. I don't want to wait for my pic/video data to send out, process, and return.
I spend lots of time out of cell reception. It's where I end up taking lots of photos/video. I want to know I got the shot, or close enough, in the moment.
Wrong tool for the job? Sure, but it's the tool I always have.
I don't use half of the device potential you do, but stand alone camera ability is a consideration when I'm shopping phones.
Thanks for your grind. You're a diamond in the fluff.
It may not look like an iPhone or a Samsung, but it looks basically the same as most of the big photo centric Chinese phones. I'd have a hard time telling which one is which among this and the new X200 range for example.
Lol mate what are you talking about they don't all look the same in fact there's only a few select companies that have a similar circular camera bump design 😮💨....and the companies that do have a similar design like oppo and vivo u can easily tell which phone is which not only is the phone name on the back but their trademark camera logo is in their respective camera housing as well and their camera positioning are different....do u know phones? I'm not trying to insult ur intelligence or anything but I just wanted to know who do u believe makes the best camera phone's and which phone u think has the best overall package in terms of build, performance, software, design, camera, and price. Just curious.🙏
@rhythm451 A few like Vivo, Oppo, Xiaomi, Huawei, Honor, Realme
If I have to look at a specific design element to differentiate the phone, they all look the same to me.
Pixel, iPhone, Samsung, Nubia, Asus, Sony all have their identity, but this on the other hand feels copy and paste in some ways. You can argue that it's needed for the big sensor these phones are using, but the Pixel nails it by placing them in the horizontal bar
Even I couldn't say which phone is the best, I'm pretty satisfied with mine. It ticks all the boxes I need. I have some issues with it as no phone is perfect, but I'm OK with it
i think Winlator is probably the app that will make the most out of these new SOCs. For now it runs best on a Snapdragon but maybe with some optimizations we might get better performance on Dimensity too.
I would love for android and apple to start bringing more high end AAA gaming options to mobile. Like Apple did recently with Resident Evil. Especially with larger screens now and even foldables that get tablet like size it totally makes sense
I'm running out of local storage on my P6P, and I'm starting to browse for phones with 1TB of storage. The videos I've seen show this phone going toe-to-toe with iPhone, Samsung, and Pixel, but the OPPO is $400 less than a P9P XL. Insane. I might miss the Pixel editing tools, but I think I might switch to this. Since you've got your finger on the pulse of Dex and stuff, did you check to see if this phone would work with a lapdock? Also, 10:23... was that Tech Spurt??
There is video out for monitors, but no support for a practical desktop mode I could use. We're still a ways off there.
And that was Tech Spurt. Good eye 😊
Waiting for the X8 Ultra release. Really love my X7 Ultra but wish the battery was bigger
I've watched a LOT of videos from tech reviewers.
(Seriously. I've watched a LOT.)
I really appreciate you kind of... breaking the fourth wall and doing something different.
Because you're right, all the videos are mostly the same.
I watched a ton of them because I'm just trying to get a feel for what it'd be really like to use the device... And each video seems to add something SLIGHTLY different. But for the most part they all blend together.
Personally, what I really want to see is what makes each device unique -- show me the unique essence, the SOUL of the device you're testing.
WHAT MAKES IT TRULY SPECIAL?
Find out what that is.
Maybe it's raw performance. Maybe it's battery life. Maybe it's the way it feels in your hand. Maybe it's the way it captures video. Maybe it's the selfie camera. Maybe it's the pure prestige of using it.
One of my favorite reviews of this phone was by a guy called Orbit; he really showed what using this device is like, he showed what made it special, and he captured it beautifully.
I think your video right here is in a similar vein.
Anyway, thanks man, and I hope this helps.
Does this phone have wired video out? I saw the spec having USB-C 3.2.
Would you say the camera on this, is better than 9 Pro XL and S24 Ultra please, 😊
Camera deep dive coming soon. Stay tuned 😊
Yes, honestly coming from s24 ultra. And the battery is way better and also the cell reception
@@marllen0908 I got it but sent back for VIVO X200 Ultra which is way better I think. Loving it
Alot better than the s24 ultra. I have both. Wanted to give the Oppo a try. Compared the cameras in alot of scenarios. The Oppo has sharper more dslr like photos. The samsung suffers from ALOT of noise in the photos. Also the macro camera with the 3x lens is alot better. Same goes for the zoom. I like color os more its smoother. Battery is at least 2 hours screen on time better. Overal alot better phone. There are 2 point which i like more about the samsung.
Its the anti glare screen and the better colors from the screen.
I will sell the samsung, hope that clearls it up for you.
If I could walk into a Best Buy with this, I'd buy it today.. How does one buy one of these in the US?
How is the RAW capture? Do you have option for Normal Raw and Raw+?
Watching on my oneplus 12.....
software is such a critical part of smartphones, so one thing I feel is often skipped over is the RAM management of the device OS and consequently how well it lets apps run in the background. This has MASSIVE implications for such seemingly trivial activities as your Email app refreshing (or not!) suitably frequently. I had a China ROM Oppo Find X7 Ultra and the thing just wouldn't let Outlook tick away in the background to get new emails - and no I couldn't tell the phone to make the app sticky because it was installed inside a Work profile, so another frustration which led me to say goodbye to what is otherwise a stellar smartphone!
I never cared about having the latest and greatest, I only need a phone to have a stable software, and good performance for my daily average user tasks. I bought poco F5 last year cause of you, and been hapy ever since, 340$ well spent. And sure in benchmarks my phone gets crushed by this newer phones, but in real life, My poco F5 is still crazy fast and doesnt skip a bit, most flagship processors are overpowered anyways in this day and age. I buy a new flagship killer every 3 years or so, imo is a good balance between having a good phone and not spending a lot. Life is good. Ur one of the few youtubers I trust with the task of reviewing phones. All the best from your average European guy.
I think you need to brand your channel somegadget guy... i have been looking for you all this time because your views and analysis on tech is topnotch.. but oh well, found you now... subscribing...
Glad you made it👍
I start browsing for Vivo X200 Pro to get the camera comparison reviews with the old X100 Pro. And then I watched the comparison with this Oppo Find X8 Pro and I was mind blown of how similar and different the Zeiss and Hasselblad tech in both phones. Now I'm waiting for your review on X200 Pro and your point of views on what you've expected it to be comparing with both X100 Pro and Find X8 Pro.
Should be interesting. Lots of changes coming to camera hardware.
What about temperature afte game session on max settings? 😊
I'm hoping my network is getting Oppo phones back. They ran the Find X series before the 6 went China only. Compared to the Pixel 9 Pro it's quite interesting!
Thanks for the video Juan.
It's crazy comparing this to a pixel. SUCH different experiences...
For me, only really stress my phone/battery on travel trips where I take at least 300+ photos a day and use Google maps to navigate around all day. It would be amazing if the phone didn't get hot, stayed bright under the sun and had enough juice to go from early morning to midnight.
You must be pleased to see that most reviewers prefer this and the One Plus to the likes of Samsung, Google, etc.
G'evening Juan 🤓 . My wife and I are with MetroPCS / T-Mobile and I'm a big OnePlus fan and we both had the Nord N200 5G's until she dropped her phone and broke it recently and had to go get a new one. To my surprise I found out that Metro / T-Mobile have dropped the OnePlus phone line entirely and she wound up getting a Revvl 7 cuz the only other phones that Metro had were Nokia Motorola Kyocera and iPhones 🤕 & it looks like I'll be Outsourcing a new OnePlus phone to upgrade to soon because my Nord n200 is a 64GB , stuck on OS 12 and almost 3 years old. Any suggestions on 128GB's I should look at and did OnePlus change their name to Oppo or something ? 🤔 . Thanks..
Oppo actually is the parent company for OnePlus so basically, besides Oppo having the better cameras, the Oppo and the OnePlus will be almost the same phone under different branding. The OnePlus is also heavily targeted to the US and North American markets unlike the other Chinese brands.
Eh, I totally get not wanting to play "popular" games like Genshin or COD Mobile to show off the phone's performance if you're just not a fan of them, but there's something to be said about using safe, reputable apps and games to test out things like battery drain / performance throttling. Personally to me, I don't see any use in showing off Titan Quest, a game I love but that is played by a mere minority compared to something like Fortnite, Asphalt, Wuthering Waves or indeed, Genshin Impact, as Apple-leaning as the latter games are. I'm not exactly sure what people are supposed to take away from showcasing niche games. People know Genshin runs like crap. Do they know what Wilderless is?
Great reviews, please compare with Vivo x200 pro 200 megapixels 😅
Stay tuned 😊
All phone reviews should let people know which audio codecs the phone is capable of playing back.
Came here to see your opinion about the one inch removal, as you already did two videos about it, and there is nothing about 😅
Full camera review coming to the Patreon. I have a LOT of thoughts on this, and my OTHER favorite camera phone brand...
Is the main sensor lyt800 or lyt808?
the find x 2 pro was so good you either find it for $200 us or $1,000 plus. A beautiful creation still
And to mention that it's way smoother UI than my previous s24 ultra lol. And the camera is better
Vivo photo video? Or Oppo?
Is it better than the vivo x200 pro?
Stay tuned
I'll buy this one 🔥🔥🔥
I dont really understand the differences between Mediatek and Snapdragon but having stronger parts doing less work seems like a better deal than a bunch of higher efficiency chips working closer to maximum all the time.
If we want phones to replace laptops though, maybe working with Microsoft to have a "mobile windows" will help people start using them as such
Agreed. We need better developer support, which I hope will happen when ChromeOS becomes Android soon.
If you want to see a bit more on how these chips compare, I do have that article published on the Patreon www.patreon.com/posts/oppo-find-x8-pro-116415747
I would like to see the same video (which I think you do) being exported using lumafusion and capcut. A couple of side beside of photos from each sensor. (Hasselblad fan here) Signal quality. That's really all I care about. The video editing let's me know where the hardware has improved, cameras have their own ai let's me know what to expect, and signal quality let's me know if it'll work on my network.
Funny you should mention that...
www.patreon.com/posts/if-you-use-you-116456375
I am waiting Oneplus 13 global version,I think global version will be interesting, to compare x 8 pro
Global release is already out? wow
2025 phones are coming out FAST...
@@SomeGadgetGuyI hope the OnePlus 13 comes out in December for the US.
@@thundergato84 I do too
Where do you buy these if you're in America?
Giztop, AliExpress, Wonda Mobile a few other shops out there will handle importing too.
To answer your question 99% of tech reviewers aren't rigorous enough in their camera tests. Call it lazy or uninspired, but there isn't realistically gonna be a big difference if all you take photos of is the same desk plant or your pet cat. Increasingly sophisticated camera systems demand that they be used in increasingly difficult & specific situations. Not just the usual night streetscape/city landscape, but shooting at a concert, a sports event in dim light, macro, underwater, etc. I have learned way more about a phone's capabilities from watching sponsored videos by photography TH-camrs, who actually know how to make full use of a camera, than 99% of "tech geek" TH-camrs who spend hours shooting side-by-sides of generic scenes where even a 4 year old S20 would perform with negligible differences.
ok a different note, how was your time in india?
It was AMAZING. I vibe with that aggressive culture. The people are so inspiring for how they use and solve problems with tech, and the food was AMAZING. I ate my way through Delhi LOL!
Im one of the idiots that likes to buy new phones often, and given the global x8 pro supports almost all of Verizon's bands, I may go to this over the OP13! I would love a battery and real-world performance comparison between the two.
The ip65 of my OP12 hasn't held up as i hoped it would, my lower mic (normal calls and right stereo mic) has failed and now i have to use speaker phone for all calls 😢
For me, a major advantage the Pixel has over any chinese smartphone is the long-term security and OS updates.
Yeah. There can be trade offs between hardware and software, but I doubt Android development will progress significantly over the next seven years.
The pixel 9 Pro loses a LOT of fights to phones like the Xiaomi 12S Ultra. It's comparable to three year old hardware. That means, supporting it for seven years, those OS updates will likely be smaller, and iterative.
While an Oppo likely won't get seven OS updates, it should be well covered for security patches through Google play services updates for a while after it stops receiving OTAs from Oppo. Considering what hardware I'd want to run apps on seven years from now, I'd rather have a 9400 than a Tensor, especially if on device AI gets more demanding.
Oppo has 5 years of Major Android updates and 6 years of security updates. Google's 7 years with tensor are not worth. The OPPO phone will have much better longevity. OPPO is also very fast updates and providing improvements.
given that I encountered MANY slowdowns and throttling with the p9p, I would not purchase another pixel until they are at least comparable with qcom or mtek SOCs.
For me, long term security and OS updates in Pixels are not worth it since its chipset performance is already *a generation behind* the competition at release.
* Correction: two generations behind
Best software can't beat the best in hardware.
This phone is proving itself to be a total winner. I'm torn between this, the Honor Magic 7 Pro (global version coming in 2025) and the Vivo X200 Pro.
It's a GOOD problem to have right? I wish we got more of these choices here in the USA...
I'll just stick with my ole Galaxy A52s. I like simplicity. While,, all the bells and whistles are impressive, I find most of it superfluous, I only play games on my phone during brownouts or waiting for my wife to pick out a pair of jeans. I like this phone though, and who knows, maybe someday. GreAT job as always!!
For 1000 dollars I expect it cut out all the ads on recipe websites and jump straight to the ingredients
I think that's what Gemini is trying to do. After forcing recipe bloggers to write novels, now Google is just ripping those bloggers off.
It will be a tough 2025 for Samsung. Vivo, Oppo, OnePlus, and Xiaomi are not playing around.
These "international" brands ARE BRUTALLY competitive now. It's REALLY annoying watching this from the USA LOL.
@SomeGadgetGuy true. What surprised me was how quickly they adapted to the AI.
How about the reasoning that the more western oriented brands like Apple, Google and Samsung are more privacy focused. I am not sure, but I get what you mean by comparing the different phone without the brands and that these phones offer far more for the price.
There's no data to really support that. It's more a marketing issue than a real practical difference in privacy I can find. Often it's a xenophobic stance in American commentary to vilify Chinese brands. See also:
th-cam.com/video/5mzj6tL8ZnA/w-d-xo.html
@ Thanks man. Thinking about switching from 15 plus to the Vivo X200 pro, Oneplus 13, Xiaomi 15 (ultra) or Oppo Find X8 pro. Maybe I will get the Xiaomi 14 Ultra, but thinking about getting those newer chipsets. I was always a Android guy, but switched to Apple a couple of years ago
You're in for a treat if you really lean on those phone cameras. 😊
@ Thanks, waiting for more comparisons before deciding. From a software perspective which one is the more mature one?
They're all nicely mature. Underneath it all is Android 15, so they all can do basically the same thing. It really comes down to a personal preference which skin you like. I feel Vivo has the more conservative layout (looking more like Android 11 in the control panel), Xiaomi has the more professional camera layout, and Oppo/Op are leaning a bit more on the iPhone style animations and fun features.
They're all Android 15 though. They're all good.
17:19 I don't think there is much more you can do to highlight the value of the phones you review.
Most reviews touch on all the same "selling points" for major brands as their review, but fail to explore nuances and subtle differences between brands and operating systems.
I feel like I'm trying to push that farther, but it's just not getting through to people who claim to be tech enthusiasts.
@SomeGadgetGuy not all tech enthusiasts are true enthusiasts. I deal with this in my own field.
I watch a lot of tech reviews to get different points of view, but feel like I get the most insight about a device from your videos.
I especially enjoy that you review and compare a lot of the "off brand" devices, which are the ones I've been really interested in trying.
I'm still really disappointed that there wasn't a Sony release in the US this year.
Ugh. Yeah. Sony broke my heart.
What's the name of the game at 6:10 ?
Wilderless, same developer as Brightridge. Though it's less a game, and more a "fantasy walking experience" LOL.
You can get it to stress a phone REALLY hard though.
Watching with LG V60 .. Silly me didn't do enough research a week ago and put deposit on Oneplus 13 while I am back in Hong Kong for couple of weeks from Sydney .. I like the camera button and much better Zoom Lens on Oppo 😓😓😓 Oneplus is 5% cheaper than Oppo Find X8 pro at the shop i went to ..
Aw it should be pretty close though. If you can swap it, maybe take a look, but the OP13 should be a solid option all around.
C'était le Oppo 7 Ultra en snapdragon pas la version pro .
La version Ultra sortira qu'en Avril .
I hope folks can communicate to Android phone manufacturers that robust dektop modes and video out can help them evolve phones to the next level and end the need for 1000 buck macbook airs
This phone 🎉
Would've been better if it had 8 elite. I would prefer x200 pro over this coz of superior camera hardware and zeiss tuning
I'm real good with dimensity. Especially after running it through my tests.
Please import iqoo 13 you will see the most optimized snapdragon 8 elite (not overheating Oneplus)
Psst th-cam.com/video/HyHneYPb8zM/w-d-xo.html
@SomeGadgetGuy you should revisit find x8 and iqoo 13 after two months. Snapdragon 8 elite need time to optimize especially The presence of S25u. Mediatek mostly use arm Cpu and the compatibility with apps is much more likely than Customed one from Qualcomm
I check in throughout the year, but while I expect the 8 Elite to get some polish, I think folks should ALSO expect some performance improvements from the D9400. The D9300 saw some nice optimizations last year.
Name of the games, sir?
I've got screen recordings of wilderless, titan quest, and dead cells.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Thanks sir!
More intrested in the oppo a5 pro to be honest 😂 i saw them boil that phone in a hot pot on chinese social media
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What really interests me this year, and might *finally* replace my LG V60 is Xiaomi's 15 Ultra, mainly because in the leaks it's looking like they are using the 1/1.4 telephoto sensor used by Vivo in the X100 Ultra and X200 Pro. From everything I've seen, that telephoto camera absolutely annihilates everything else on the market. I refuse to just buy a Vivo because of the *ridiculous* AOD that can't show notifications from anything other than four system apps. *Did you know that, kids? NO TH-cam reviewer will ever mention it to you when they talk about how amazing Vivo's cameras are - that the AOD is basically worthless.*
Whenever a new Vivo comes out I have to dive into one of Flossy Carter's hour long phone reviews to see if they've done anything to fix their garbage AOD, and as of X200 Pro, no, they have not, so that camera is off the list.
Tbh I've never really used such a feature even though my 4 year old phone does show many icons lol . I'm used to actually checking the menu
Now that the wearables like watches and bands are more affordable, most people now have no reason to take out phones and glancing at the AOD. Like you said, AOD are worthless for most people.
If I'm spending over $1000 on a phone, there's really only one reason. And it's probably the only reason why phones should cross $1000. And that reason is the cameras. It can be argued that y-o-y performance is offering diminishing returns and marginal gains. So my question is, does this phone offer a better camera experience than +$1000 phones released in the previous phone release cycle? And if I had to answer my own question...I'd say the answer is probably no. It doesn't seem like it outclasses the Vivo X100 Pro or its own predecessor, the Oppo Find X7 Ultra. In this era of smartphones and technology in general, the concept of value would suggest that it doesn't make sense to purchase a device from the current release cycle. This is something we need to start acknowledging and admitting.
It's tough. I dont think techies should write off SOC performance, and pure brute force compute power has its place in the conversation, but you're not wrong. As SOC prices climb, and other components get more expensive, we'll likely see "side grades" for camera tech from Oppo and Vivo this year.
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Fingerprint reader sits too low. Oneplus13 does it better.
Samsung fanboys will talk about how OneUI is "just better" or "more customizable" but end up just using the phone for instagram, youtube and phone calls for the rest of the day. Pixel fanboys will just go and say that the "pixel experience is undefeated".
There'll be thousands of excuses against this and it's really funny to me how normal people are so quick to defend a product from a corporation that does NOT care about them at all.
A little rivalry or gamesmanship is fun, but the tech scene right now is ratcheted by TH-cam. TH-cam only cares about keeping people watching more video, so the algorithm prioritizes popularity. Especially in North America, we just end up with an echo chamber telling people about the phones they already own. It really hurts competition, and it sucks all the fun out of a good geek debate.
@@SomeGadgetGuy exactly! I have no problems in seeing a proper debate or even poking fun at each other, but these people and most mainstream youtubers seem to always just support the most popular brand.
And as you said, it's like an echochamber, there's no way to get out of it. Quite sad honestly. Even if the X200 Ultra comes out with a 1000 dollar price tag, not many people will buy it. That's the sad reality of the extreme propaganda these companies have shown to the masses.
I can confirm, you make a LOT less money when you dont just PRAISE the most popular brands in the USA. Challenging that gets a LOT of people up in their feels.
Like, it shouldn't be controversial to point out how good a value these devices are, and how American phones are falling behind in hardware.
Flash placement for prooer shadows is correct like on the op12. (As opposed to Pixel which puts the flash UNDER the lenses creating spooky shadows)
As a suggestion for something to do to show the power if these devices,..... Hmmm......
For years now, while driving, I do split screen, i.e. navigation and an audio player (either youtube or pocketcasts) while quickly charging the phone. The phone doesn't overheat, functions properly and charges to 100 percent in a hot minute. Everything functions correctly and I arrive even on short 15 minute trips fully charged.
It reaches full so quickly I often wait before plugging in.
Doing that as a test, hmmmm possibly you could start at 50 percent and do a 15 minute drive and show where the charge level reached. I dunno. Of course the Dash/warp/vooc chargers make that a breeze, whereas if it were power delivery that would take away some of that advantage. I guess you would have to test both with the proprietary chargers and once with pd, and maybe you would have to put it in the shade..... Gee that is all too messy and involved..... But a suggestion nonetheless. Some of my passengers USED to be surprised and impressed that my phone could charge and not just sit still chargewise while driving...... All while doing split screen.
Hey thanks for the video and it's sort of kills me to watch these cuz we're never going to see this in the States and I spent 20 years in Asia and I was able to get all these brands before and now I see you break them out.
It hurts right? The only thing that makes gadgets better is competition. We're SORELY lacking that in the States...
How is the software compated to OneUI? I'm trapped with Samsung bc of their many features.
I'd love to have oppo in the carriers in the States 😢 ya'll are so damn lucky to have so many choices!
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Nailed it!
Jokes on you, it's missing an apple logo so it's worthless
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Only Apple worshipper find that Apple iPhone's worthy.