Apple's Nano-Texture MacBook Pro Display: Game-Changer for Creators?
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- Apple's Nano-Texture MacBook Pro Display: Game-Changer for Creators?
Discover the revolutionary Nano-Texture MacBook Pro display! Apple's cutting-edge technology transforms your viewing experience with reduced glare, crystal-clear visuals, and unmatched color accuracy. Perfect for creative professionals, this display redefines productivity in any lighting condition.
In this video, we’ll cover:
What is Nano-Texture Technology?
How it benefits photographers, videographers, and designers
Side-by-side comparisons: Standard vs. Nano-Texture
Is it worth the upgrade for you?
If you’re wondering whether the Nano-Texture MacBook Pro is worth the investment, this video will give you all the answers you need!
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This is probably the most useful video on the difference between the two. Thank you very much for demonstrating the difference so effectively.
You're very welcome!
I understand why people like glossy. When I tried both next to each other, the glossy pops more and the blacks seem deeper. But as soon as I view actual photos or films on the screens, there is no such thing as true black in real life, and the tiny bit of loss of contrast on the nano texture just disappeared, and it just looked more real to me because the screen texture almost seems to disappear, whereas there's always reflection on the glossy to let you know that it's a screen. I ended up buying nano texture. I like it.
I agree completely
Great thoughts but the hardcore won't agree. You are completely right!
99% of people in the world can't afford either. So being able to buy either is a huge privilege anyway.
I don't care about this for photos and videos. For text nano texture is step back.
@@peterc4082it’s an extra $190
Thanks!
You bet!
Great advice, you convinced me. I was on the fence about the nanotexture display. Bit the bullet and got it on my MacBook Pro 14 and it is GORGEOUS. Love the nanotexture and never going back.
i'm glad i got it too!!
I’m glad you love it!
Make it look good on a matte and it will transfer well to glossy displays, but not in reverse. Thanks for this important insight!
You’re welcome 😊
I am not a photographer but the Nano Texture is much more pleasant to my (old) eyes
nice!
Go see them in person before you buy. I tried the nano screen but sent it back to Apple due to lack of colors popping. Got the glossy instead and now I'm 100% happy. But to each their own.
each to their own
I went to apple store today. They have bright ceiling lights to light the store. Right away i could see the reflection off the glossy screen where the nano I had too look for it. For my uses being outside/in the car while working the nano is 100% choice for me.
awesome
I made the right choice with the nanotexture display yay
Nice!
You always do excellent reviews with so many details enclosed with. However this current review for the nano texture along with other reviewers on TH-cam seem to only focus on the reflection things, which it doesn’t report the overall situation I am afraid. I have seen the nanotexture MacBook myself and I have serious challenges to understand why this option can be considered. The colours are so washed out and the black seems greyish ...I still am not sure why a professional photographer or a video editor should choose the nano texture option...just because of the reflection?? Really....??
Nano-texture is a matter of preference and your experience is your own.
I'm also (too) deeply contemplating the decision. I would mostly like the nano for possible comfort. But I'm worried about it's resilience and durability. Any thoughts on that, scratches and such?
difficult to say, these are very new. Only time will tell really
Thanks as always, Art. I looked at both at the Apple Store. I didn't like nano-texture because it adds visible grain to the white parts of the image, like SDR and HDR highlights. I didn't like this at all because I felt I wouldn't be able to judge the graininess of the photo. I need to see grain accurately so I can decide whether to add or remove it in the edit. The glossy display is ultraclear and let's me see the grain without obstacles. I'm happy with the glossy display on my M3 MBP for this reason. Beside this the color, contrast and sharpness looked great on the nano-texture, no worse than the glossy. I think Apple did a great job.
You're Welcome!
Completely agree. Nano texture is too much grainy and disturbing for black text in white background.
@@andreaslassak2111 I found the same thing. I have an astigmatism and when I was viewing black text on white backgound both word and excel I couldn’t unsee what appeared to be a blotchiness to the white. While for the photos and anything without a solid background was amazing almost made me choose nano, but I have half my time with hobbies like music mix and photography, but the other half is on word and excel. After along time on the nano in the store I stopped being able to focus with my progressive lenses. I so wanted to get the nano, but can’t unsee the grain in the solid white.
Still deciding between the two. Eye strain on nano vs glossy? Best for movies which one? Best for video editing? Is it easy to clean? Thank you, please reply it’s an important decision
all personal preference, one can make the argument either way and I have seen both. I personally prefre the nano texture that is all I can say
From personal experience a matte screen is much better for your eyes, wont get eye strain nearly as soon. With movies, i actually like the nano more, it looks more real since the screen almost seems to disappear, whereas you can always see the reflections on the glossy screen that keep telling your brain "hey, thats a screen you are looking at" 😄
When it comes to cleaning, its a little bit easier than the glossy, feels like you dont need as much pressure to remove finger prints.
Great review but The image on16:55 the glossy image is different picture then the 3 others so the comparison is not complete for me ..
Very informative as always, thanks for the comparison. I’ll be buying the nano texture screen.
Nice
I come from a cheap matte Lenovo so I ordered the glossy M4 since I remembered them looking miles better.
I dismissed other comparisons but now after seeing yours I think I should have gone for the matte option (I don't do color/media work but I'll be seeing my own reflection and the wall behind me while reading for hours).
This is easily the best video about the NT displays, thank you for comparing it to other matte display, different light sources, and your own opinions regarding contrast, saturation and sharpness
Thank you!
Been waiting for like a long time for a video like this !! Thank you
Thank you!
Ditto, I’ve found a few videos that have made me think it might be worth going with the upgrade to the screen, but nothing definite until now. Now I just need to workout the rest of the specs before ordering.
@@X5493-c7pI went with the nano . Neither screen is perfect .
Hi, ArtIsRight. Thanks for the video. I just ordered a MBP with the nano texture display, hoping that the image being displayed on the monitor would be generally closer to the prints of the photos that I intend to edit with it. With the nano texture display, is calibration still required or recommended? That would cost me another $300 or so as I don’t have a calibrator yet. Renting is also not an option here, where I live. I’m sure that there are many factors that affect print results and quality, so I do not expect calibration alone to make a significant difference. Just want to know whether the extra cost and time is worth it. In fact, I am a bit worried that with a calibrated nano texture display, I might be veering too off from the “standard”, where most people have over saturated monitors and displays, as I am relying on third party printing services to do the prints, and they will probably just do the prints in bulk with presets that suit most people. I am working on a project that includes years of my photo collection. There are going to be two sizable photo albums. If I skip the calibration, I can probably use that $300 to order some sample prints, which might be more straightforward and helpful in my case. Could you share your opinion on this? Could you also recommend any photo printing company that I can try? I am considering MILK Books, but I have no experience with it. Last time I ordered a photo album like this was through Apple.
use it with preset and try it w/o calibration first. See how that goes. And the variation is mostly human perception not accuracy as some might have said, it is idea conflation.
Thank you for your review! I used to have the matte display on my old 2008 17" Macbook Pro and have sorely missed it.
😀
First time coming across your channel with this video. Such a great review honestly. Ive been looking at many other videos about this Mac and the nano texture display. You really go in depth. Thank you and subbing for this!
Thank you so much for checking out the channel and subscribing! 🙏
Great video! I have ordered the Macbook Pro 16 Nano Texture, but I didn't have the opportunity to test it, in my country they only arrived with glossy panel. Now i know i made the right decision to order the version with Nano Texture display. 👌
Nice
This a wonderfully detailed overview. Thank you!
thank you!
I decided to wait for the Pico-Texture.
naw wait for teh femto
@@ArtIsRight atto
Yocto is the way to go people
Glossy is much better, the only downside is the reflections, but I’m ok with it.
like I said personal prefrences and 16+ years of nomalization
Much better ? Lol that’s a big stretch buddy…that’s YOUR OPINION…it’s not “much better” at all
It's funny how suddenly Nano glass it getting much more attention than when it first came out. I have the Studio display since 2,5y with Nano glass and would never go back. For photo editing it is lightyears ahead. You always have reflections on a glossy screen, even if people aren't aware of have become used to. The nano glass has a silky surface that much better ressembles a print on a paper. Sharpness with the 5k display is absolutely enough, the glossy can look slightly overly punchy and oversharp.
But I guess it is a strongly subjective question....
'overly punchy and oversharp' are bad things now...😆
The main thing here is that it just released in of of Apple most popular computer. Screen got covrage too but people always have option. And this standard vs nano texture, should never be a polarizing thing, but apparently it has be come that. Your observation is correct, glossy does have downside but with a whole generation used to it, once it is normalized it is difficult to change people mentality
@@theemekanwanishow "'overly punchy and oversharp' are bad things now..."
I tried both next to each other with exact the same settinsga the same images. The glossy showed much more colors, more deatiled colors and differentiated muich better between different color gradings. A dog in brown with white areas or white clouds on blue sky. The nanotex was not taht clear and the dog missed several white areas and the clouds came with less structure and more blurry white. I would love to have less reflections but as i work with images, I need to see all colors and all details which was not possible with nanotex
again preferences
Yep I think being able to differentiate slight colour differences is really important especially with graphic design. I remember setting up my website with a 2012 iMac, and in some of the thumbnails I cutout some logos. But it wasn’t until I upgraded in 2020 that I noticed that the cutouts were somewhat visible which blended in perfectly on the old iMac. So, if you need to be able to see a high level of colour accuracy it’s probably best to avoid the nano texture display.
Working with images and color AND Laptop-Displays just don‘t vibe in on sentence 😂 … if your work relies on color accuracy, then you need a very good Eizo or something similar.
I agree. Even in this video with images that have clouds, there’s more detail in the clouds on the standard display. This Nano generation shows more detail in the shadows but sacrifices the details in the highlights. With digital photography we expose for the highlights and you must be able to see the highlight details. Apple will eventually be able to have a more balanced nano texture but it’s going to take another generation or two.
When I went to the Apple Store, the Apple Sales person convinced me to get the Glossy instead of Nano as I don’t work outdoors. And I’m happy I got the Glossy version
Sadly most of those sales people are not pros and don't know what pros need. I have been consulting with creatives in this industry for decades now and it is always the same story. They don't know what pros need, at least most of them.
Ignorance is bliss.
You made the right choice, the matte display is not capable of showing good colors and the lack of contrast is horrid. If you are in bright sunlight with the nano its very diffuse and text looks very unsharp. Aertis comments about edits is better on a nanotexture is not correct.
@@BeeRoyLeejust remember that everybody has their own opinions on what is best for themselves doesn’t mean you’re right and everybody else is wrong.
@@AlbertKel so wrong this is hilarious. Both panels have the exact same color accuracy and contrast. I bought both side by side in a dark room I would pay you to be able to tell the difference when watching videosl
Excellent review. And you explain a very important point for photographers specifically. I have an external matte HP display that is connected to my laptop, and it's where all my photo editing happens. I noticed that after I finish my edit, and I upload it to Google Drive, I then like to reopen the edited photo on my Samsung S8 Ultra tablet. My images look their best on the "glossy" tablet. Always look better than on my matte screen. I never really knew the reason, but what you explained makes sense. These glossy screens always make the colors pop and add contrast to images. So, if I can get my image to look very good or excellent on a matte display, it will look super on a glossy one.
For long hours of work/play though, I find myself gravitating towards matte displays. They're easier on the eyes and having almost no reflections is a great feature to me. So, I went ahead and ordered my first ever Apple device, a MacBook Pro M4 Pro, after more than 20 years with Windows. I also ordered it with the Nano-texture display as I think I will like it more.
Anyway, thanks again for your excellent and detailed reviews. I am getting a ton of value from your videos as someone who has never used Apple computers or MacOS. Trying to learn as much as I can, and I can't wait for my new laptop to arrive!
Thank you!
I noticed something that nobody has mentioned so far. When you look at the nano-texture display from different angles, the quality changes. At the store, I viewed the screen from the side and noticed that the glass display looked much better. Even in this video, at 21:14, you can see what I mean. Any small change in the viewing angle noticeably reduces the quality of the nano-texture display.
yes because glossy reflects everything, nano texture cut reflection and may result in our perception seeing less angle of view. If it is a no go for you, choose glossy.
You talk like a Stanford professor.:) Great video:)
Thank you!
This is the best video on TH-cam for helping to decide which display. Thank you!
Thank you!
Your videos are always so on point and informative! I wish you 100k subs at least soon.
Thanks! Appreciate you watching
20:49 This is a great representation of what the nano texture looks like close up. Those little “worms” for lack of a better description is how I perceive small font sizes on a white background when I checked out the nano display at the Apple store.
trade off based on personal preferences
I looked at the nano-textured MBP in person last week. I prefer that one much more than the glossy.
But for desktop screen, I prefer the glossy one.
all personal preferences.
The scatter on the laptop's screen is very minimal to my eye probably due to the relatively small size of the screen and arm-length viewing distance.
But on a desktop screen I totally see the scatter at the same arm-length distance because of the bigger screen size. That's why I prefer glossy in this case.
This is such a comprehensive explanations that's really great for photo editors to consider like myself, thank you for all your hard work and amazing explanations.
You are so welcome!
Excellent video. I prefer matte finish on MacBook Pros
awesome!
What I’ve been waiting for
Glad I can get this out, it was a lot of work!
You could argue that most people will be viewing the end result on a glossy screen; being a phone, you'd probably not need to worry about this too much. I would guess that when it comes to printing that the matte display will be way closer to the physical print.
I hear you but you are taking a gamble that is not 100% of everyone that view your work will be doing it on a phone. So matte in general gives the lowest common denominator that you don't have to worry about over compensating.
Would like to see the Calibrite Plus HL video for an Apple Nano-texture 27 inch Display please. I think you said in a previous video that it was a different procedure. I use a Mac mini M4Pro.
Older guide but works th-cam.com/video/PLB93k9UYWc/w-d-xo.html
this is exactlly what i need before purchase,thank u for ur job, its means a lot.
You are welcome!
Can I ask if you’ve noticed which is more accurate on actual prints?
nano
Amazing video! Nano textures looks awesome
Thank you!
Great video, thank you for the value
Appreciate that!
Great, in depth, articulate review!
You're Welcome!
Perfect video, thanks a lot!
Thank you!
Ive been a Matte man for 20 years, but my last 2 screens - ultrafine 5k and oled 65" have brought me around to 'wet' displayed colours
it is mostly what you prefer and can live with :)
I bit the bullet and brought the nano texture, for all the time ive been using it, I cant tell the difference between my glossy earlier laptop and this one except the lost of reflections
there you go!
I put on a Matt screen protector and it looks exactly the same as my sons with nano texture. save your money
close but not quite
Great Video!thx
just got mine! Nano
2 questions calibration same as the M1 Max ? and the other one is I calibrated it with the photography L100 and it is okay but can I use apple XDR Display P3 1600nits is that then also calibrated but brighter ?
Yes calibration is the same. And to your second question, yes. I need to make a new guide on how to do this but I need the energy and time to get this going.
@@ArtIsRight thank you for your great informative Videos! great JOB!
I am a photographer and I just received my 16" MacBook Pro with nano texture display. I know nothing about calibrating a monitor. Does my monitor require individual calibration, or are there settings that you can share with me to change? Also, I see that there is a display preset called "photography" that locks the brightness adjustment and makes the display appear less vibrant, would you recommend using this? Thank you kindly for your time!
Yes start with that, you can customize the brightness of it, I have older videos of those, the interface is different but the context is still relavent, you can start out wtih those. Updated videos will be coming in a few weeks.
Amazing video, thank you ! 99% sure I’m buying nano texture, what’s the best way to clean it to prevent glossy spots in the future? Thanks !
use the cloth that is included with the nano texture and don't rub hard
@ Thank you !
I have a 2010 Matte display MacBook Pro and am looking to finally replace it (as well as my mid-2010 Mac Pro); I am really interested in the nano-texture display because I've had issues with glare at work spaces with glossy displays. Wish there was a little more info on how the nano-texture holds up long-term, but don't think I'm going to wait.
yeah these are literally the first gen nano portable products, we are all beta testers.
Thank you for delivering superb reviews again and again!
Thanks again!
Hey, first time here viewing the best video on glossy vs mate displays on the internet right now!
I do have a question, though, last time I checked nano-texture on the Apple Pro display, the texture really made the image grainy, so much so that when looking closeup, it seemed like those mate smartphone screen protectors, you know what I mean... How is this new nano-texture looking compared to the old XDR Pro display? Does it still have the grainy texture or is it much finer, on par with other mate displays out there?
Thanks!
Same as it was before
@@ArtIsRight Thank you for the tip!
There is one thing I do like about this iteration of nano-texture finish, it has anti refection coatings, just like the glossy display does. Anti reflection coatings are used on camera lenses to reduce internal reflections, so much so that if an uncoated glass surface reflects about 2% of light, a coated one only reflects about 0.2%! That is significant and it is also used on the Benq display. You can coat plastics as well, but it is not as wear resistant as on glass due to lower hardness of the plastic, so that is something to keep in mind when you clean a display like Benq or the QD OLEDS from Samsung, as they use some kind of coated plastic film/polarizer.
Artis, curious what solution you would use besides the cleaning cloth Apple supplies and the similar cloth the BenQ PhotoVue SW272Q uses. Both Apple and Benq recommend 70% isopropyl (IPA) while Benq in addition recommends a Alcohol-Free Screen Cleaner. Thanks.
I would not use anything with alcohol. Lightly damp microfiber cloth if necessary but not alcohol.
I like the nano screen but I might still go with glossy. Reason is everyone ( clients) is looking at glossy screens (iPhones or iPad). That’s what people used to now. Until iPhones has nano screen. By the way I work as DIT on photo shoots.
Thats's how I'm thinking, everyone should look at where their media/content is going to be viewed on.
choose what you think is best for you.
Update! I been on jobs lately and see professionals photographers and DIT loving the nano texture. I think people are adopting and appreciate the matte screen like the good old days. I changed my order to nano screen now. Art is right!!
@@1825OREO thanks for the update
finally such a great video! Thank you sir!
My pleasure!
outstanding video. thank you! If someone used their MacBook Pro indoors, would there still be a benefit from the nano-texture screen? I've read there's a trade off in terms of diminished visibility/sharpness of text. I wonder what your thoughts on that are? Again, really great presentation. thx
Yes
Yes, since you have reflections indoors aswell, like yourself sitting infront of the screen or lights on your ceiling. I will never go back to glossy screens :D
Interesting video. The fact is that you only speak about the accuracy of the colours and how the screen diffract the lights reflexion. And I agree that it’s doing quite well on does items. But what about the sharpness and accuracy’s of screen ? I’ve been watching the new nano screen and the screen seems to be a little blurry. And when working on image and video this blurry aspect is quite a pain point.
Kind regards.
Image quality is not reduced by nano texture, it is improved in every way. Not exactly sure how they did it but I think most people when get nano will not go back, myself included.
"But what about the sharpness and accuracy’s of screen ?" I explained this at the end. And I also talked at length about accuracy. Not sure what are we missing here.
Thanks for the video Art. I have a question. You showed the calibration test results that the nano screen has the most accurate data. I wonder if there is a systematic error here if only test one screen in each type of the screens? I mean, here the nano texture screen has 2.3 in Maximum E. Is it possible if test another nano screen, the data will have a different number (maybe higher than 2.7)? Thanks.
no error on my part, apple has been fairly consistence, but variation occurs in manufacturing and at the end of the day this is still all based on physic.
I appreciate this review, but had a question about the color gambit on the glossy vs nano-texture. A lot of people have said that the color palette is more centered or accurate on the glossy even though the nano-texture can express more range? I just want to make sure that if I edit on the nano-texture that the image won’t look skewed on other devices. I’ve noticed a warmer hue on the standard vs a slightly colder one on the matte. It seems that the glossy is already standardized, so there’s less need to calibrate and mess with the settings.
Gamut is the same, just different panel glass that affects our perception of appearance. Cooler and warmer can be adjusted but then that is another can of worms as well. Based on my testing color is more accurate on the nano, but then that is relatively speaking, the minutia variation is so small that human vision can't tell them apart anyways, just preception
@ would you still prefer color correcting/grading on the nano-texture even though there’s a slight difference in color temperature? I went ahead and purchased the nano-texture to test it out, but just want to make sure that my edits will translate well to other displays as well. Thanks for responding.
@@ArtIsRight i am curious what your reaction is to this man's second question? Have a great day 🙏
@@HenryBenedictUSA It’s very difficult(impossible)to control how your images will look on other ppl’s non-calibrated devices.
Hey, what if you had external monitor would it be better to go with gloss version? And what would photography editing monitor would you recommend to to pair with M4 Pro 14ich? Thank you!
The best would be BenQ SW line and I would still choose nano texture with a photo monitor
I am worried about non-covered damage to screen. And otherwise I am torn. Most screens need serious calibration as glossy is SO much more vivid than any printed media.
not that much of a variation
Art thank you for your thoroughness and explaining it so that we understand. I was curious if you’ve heard any rumors about the new PD 2 66K monitor and if you’ve heard of any of the specs on it or maybe a release date. Thanks again for all you do
I am unaware of future products from BenQ
I saw both displays in Apple store, and Nano-texture is too grainy for black text, with white background, i need clear text for coding, and not rainbow dots around it. When it's close distance, it make a huge difference. I took glossy. And i can buy matte cover anytime i want.
again personal preferences
great review-i have the MacBook Pro 16 glossy which I picked up a few days ago and primarily use it for watching movies - I have a week or so to return it and trade it for the nano texture and was wondering your thoughts in comparing the two for movie watching . The salesman at Apple convinced me to go with the glossy as he said I will lose some vibrancy with the nano texture. - For whatever reason, thus far , I have a bit of eye strain in watching movies on the glossy version- maybe it's my eyes- what are your thoughts please?
Either will do, I would by personal prefrences and in this situation may be the nano texture is the way to go
Thank you very much for this video! It's like the best movie comparing the two screens until this time. Only one important question was not answered. How about the durability of the nano-texture screen. I am in the process of buying a new m4 pro 48gb + nano I would like to use this device for the next 5 years. In this case, will the nano-texture screen stand the test of time? What you with your experience can say on this topic? Durability + ease of cleaning in the long term. Thank you very much and I wish you every success 🍀🙏🏼
hard to say, we don't have one in a portable or laptop until recently stated with the ipad pro. so ymmy, probably more prone to dust, smudge, smeer and easier to scratch but then you are not relying on touch input like the iPad, so you should be ok.
I think the durability is not a problem for a laptop, because nobody touches the screen. The durability for nano-texture glass version of ipad pro is suspicious, but it is very suitable for a laptop
Thanks for making this video, Reddit made me feel crazy for thinking the Nano-texture was better.
I noticed the screen on my M4 is making me not want to use my 5k LG display anymore when working.
The M4 display is way brighter and just feels better on my eyes.
Any recommendations for a monitor that would be closer to the M4 now?
Also, just wanted to say I recently found your channel and it's one of the best tech channels i've found on YT in a long time.
Cheers
every one is going to have their own take. just have yours and go with it. And thank you so much!
Thanks for the great info.
You're Welcome!
Amazing video as always.
One question: How are white backgrounds like from websites looking like on the nano texture displays? I never see that in reviews.
They look fine :)
White background with text looks terrible to me on nano texture
It's terrible. Pure garbage and very grainy. I would recommend to see them first before buying.
What’s the nano screen like for just regular text if you’re writing a doc? Is it still crisp?
looks good to me
Of course not-otherwise, it would have become the new default and the only option.
I went for matte this time because I use my mbp a lot on the go. I have to say, it’s been great so far. Haven’t done much color work yet.
Colors are good
Very helpful. I bought the nano and love it. The colors to my eye are beautiful. Thank you for your video. Good to know what you said about editing. If I make it look good on nano I am good to go.
You are so welcome!
Do you have an update on how you’re getting on with working with the nano display? Would you go back to glossy?
nope, not going back
Hi Art, Thanks for your suggestions. Currently with my budget I placed an order for 14MBP M4P 24GB 1TB one. Wondering how significant is it to bump up 24 to 48? Is it reasonable to cancel current one and order 48gm from extra $400? (I use little blender for 3D Modeling, some photo editing & Excel a lot)
If your 3D apps uses memory more is generally better
Is there any difference in the ability to clean the two different screens?
yes, nano is bit more delicate to clean
Thanks as always for that great comparison!!! But how does the Nanotexture behave when you get smudges on it? I read in reviews about the ipad pro with nanotexture that you can only use Apple´s own cleaning cloth. others just do not work. Is it the same with the M4 MBP? Thanks for sharing your experiences!
I have used a regular cleaning cloth and it seems ok
Have had my nano-texture M4 pro for 2 weeks now and absolutely love the screen, best I've ever had. Reminds me of the anti-glare screen on my 2011 2nd gen 17" MacBook Pro (but muuuuuch better obviously).
I hear you
it's because the oled is too powerful that even neutered it looks good
@@numberl6 MacBook Pro doesn''t have Oled.
Can you say something about the durability, is there a difference?
Nano texture is a bit more delicate than the other, but it is still glass
what about the Nano texture on the ASD? I'm thinking that for people with presbyopia Nano might not be good as getting clear text is already a struggle.
same
Hi Art do you have measurements/observations of the MBP displays out of the box? Both the M4 gen and historically? Are they generally in the ballpark, have you had experiences where they are wildly off?
Also do you know if the old i1 pucks (the ones with USB A) still work with the M4 gen?
Thank you!
They are fine
As macbooks had problems in the past with coatings, do you think the Nano Texture will last well considered the use (cleaning, outside etc.) or does it seem very fragile to you?
hard to say, nano texture for portable devices has not been out that long yet
thanks a lot for this video~ getting it this weekend~! only those two calibration tools work? i have the other xrite calibration tool.
I have not tested the latest spectrophotometer and software. But otherwise for colorimeter, yes only these 2 will work.
Apple needs to bring Nano Texture to the Macbook Air. I use a 13inch Macbook Air when traveling light and a nano texture upgrade for the Air would be a game changer. I am sure they would sell a lot of these devices. Meanwhile I will order my 16inch Pro in Nano Texture.
Totally!
Looks like the nano-texture actually does decrease the reflections a lot compared to a matte screen protector. Don't know if it's worth the increased cost though.
it depends, for me it is
When editing a photo on Nano, is it possible to confuse the rgb shimmer/noise on white backgrounds with actual photo noise? Does that slight nano dirty effect make it more difficult to actually spot photo noises while editing?
no, it does not have that effect.
thank you !
the nano display is a no brainer for me.
I find reflections while I edit very disturbing.
excellent points regarding not getting your edit to the very best levels.
I'm in that category. I haven't gone through the process of calibrating and yet ... I print....
I found some workarounds but I'm looking forward to seeing your video about calibrating.
I still have to decide between m4 pro 20 cores 48gb ram and m4 max 32 cores 36 gb ram.
this new display tech might be the last push I needed to deal with my color accuracy "issues" ;)
I hear ya
@@ArtIsRight 😉
How is the sharpness of black text on a white background for matte screens vs glossy?
Ex. For word processing & office apps.
nano texture feels like cheap mate screen protector, like I got something in my eyes and need to rub them
I definitely prefer the nano for black text on white background, screen is easy to read and more comfortable
Everyone would have different views on this. None of this is scientific, just personal preferences. I personally see some slight variation, but it would not be that much different than reading on a Kindle B&W screen. The best to do is choose what you prefer
It's pure garbage. The black text on White background is too grainy, and had weird rainbow dots reflections. Very disturbing for read the text or office work.
Nanotexture since the day of release and to be honest I feel so many people writing so much negative either do not have the nano texture.
Living in a sunny country and the office lighting being very bright I am a big fan of the nano texture. Sure there's some differences like a very slight grainy finish which you notice occasionally especially with white backgrounds but the people saying it's "pure garbage" are clueless.
Im on Office apps quite a lot, for long periods of time and it makes a massive difference interns of minimizing eye strain. I also edit photos and did some color accuracy tests which were more than good enough.
Overall, It does not feel like a cheap Matte Screen protector, it is great! Have a look at MKBHD and other reviewers opinion. The best reviewers say its game changing and I can do nothing but agree fully
Apparently, M4 series is using quantum dot panel now
Yes mentioned that in the video
I‘m struggling with my decision. MacBook Pro M4 pro …Nano or glossy.
I‘m producing Music with ableton live.
you don't really need the nano for your workflow, it is more of an option.
i have a m4 macbook pro max and its a nano display. there is some white specks that appear from time to time. is tis normal . it goes way if you clean it but reminds me of gloss screen reflective coating . isnt it supposed to be etched and not coated ( the screen)
It is etched but dust do get into those tiny texture.
Need to use monitor protector film on M4?
I haven't used it on any, not necessary
great thanks. it’s a 8bit or 10 bit ? the m4 nano texture
Glossy or nano texture has nothing to do with bitdepth that is the property of the LCD panel.
@ I know. It's a question, and I can't find the answer, because Apple doesn't communicate on it. I'm trying to find out if these screens are in 10 bits or 8 bits, do you know? In any case, thank you for your video, it allowed me to choose the textured nano but I don't think I'll calibrate with it, especially if it's 8 bits
The Macbook Pro screen is 10-bit
@ thanks guy
I was noticing that you were inputting the sRGB values in a Custom setting. Majority of my clients deal with Display P3. Quality in color is what my clients want. What are the custom display inputs I need to enter? Have you done this?
Yes I have a guide on this, P3 D65 along with sRGB, and Adobe RGB the white point x, y values are the same.
I might wait a bit ( actually anyway I am not upgrade to a new m4 series Mac anytime soon), I might wait a bit to see how the nano texture last, as I remember my MacBooks always have the oil finger print on the keyboard and that is really easy to affect the screen, sometimes even damage the display coating, so I am might wait a bit. But I like the concept of using a nano texture/mat display to work with an image.
I might need to clean my screen a bit more though ;)
yeah that is the main question, especially on a laptop screen. I would check out some feedback on the iPad Pro first, since they were out longer and are portable devices
@@ArtIsRight how about using magnetic anti-glare screen protectors? those on the more expensive side? i think i made a mistake ordering the glossy screen, wondering if a good protector can change this
@@batmanonholiday4477 Won't be the same quality as nano texture for sure
@@kylerichtsfeld yes :( question is if it could be still usable with that protector and it would retain most of sharpness
i think the question is, how will the nano hold up long term. we will have to wait and see a year from now if the quailty of the screen deteriorates or not.
I do think this is a (potentially) valid concern. Especially as they provide a polishing cloth. Obviously different/more delicate?
How has the studio display with nano held up? What about the iPad which inherently has a ton more pressure, smudging, oils from fingers?
hard to say, we don't have one in a portable or laptop until recently stated with the ipad pro. so ymmy, probably more prone to dust, smudge, smeer and easier to scratch but then you are not relying on touch input like the iPad, so you should be ok. Also some of us will replace the machine every few years anyway. And it is more durable than the previous laminated LCD, of the bygone era
i feel like you wouldn't need to touch it up very often, from what i've seen even fingerprints are not as distracting as on the glossy version
Great discussion, Art, on the technical aspects of glossy vs matte (nano textured) screens. Ironically, with my recent new 13" M3 Air which I have primarily for travel applications, I've started using it on my desk for non-photographic applications precisely because it has the higher contrast glossy screen. However, when I do any photo editing work (or even viewing photos) I turn to my right and work from either of my Benq SW displays. If I had to work from my laptop solely, I might think differently about this but I'll count myself lucky I can experience the benefits of both display types.
have to see it to believe it.
Thanks for your interesting comparison. However, I am a little puzzled because it seems that the screen pictures on each the two MacBook M4s (glossy and nano-texture) are slightly different photos, perhaps taken at different time intervals, with the position of the sun behind the rock and the positions of the waves being different. May I ask, did you do this difference deliberately, and if so why? Many thanks again.
I’ve owned the m3 and m4 and compared the same image on both. Nano is significantly better in terms of picture quality and reflection. Again, the difference is significant.
Those are the wall paper from Apple, slightly different but the colors are the same, if it wasn't I would not use them. And those are just for the reflection demo.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you, I see. Well, I was only concerned because the sun was radiating "starburst" rays from the edge of the rock on the nano-texture screen, but not on the glossy screen, so I wondered why. Thanks again.
@@BeeRoyLee
@@BeeRoyLee Thanks!
I got a MacBook with nano texture display. I plug it into a studio display. The color is really different. Is that normal?
yes
Nice! A question, Is the old i1 Display Pro (x-rite) sufficient to calibrate the m4 pro screen or do I have to buy and use the new version of the Calibrite calibrator HL?
You need, the newer Calibrite Display Pro HL or Display Plus HL. The old version will calibrate the display, you just won't get the full color gamut of the display.
Thanks a lot for the reply! I was looking for information on the x-rite site and it seems that the old i1Display pro can handle monitors with 1000nits+ and wide gamut, oled etc. I'll try to search better. Have you had a chance to try the old device?