Honda Ridgeline Part 2 - Front Head Removal
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- Now that we have identified the problem with this '07 Honda Ridgeline and know it is leaking from the #4 exhaust valves it is time to pull the head off and gather some more data! Let's see what we find.
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Eric you talk to us like we are in the shop with you. Mustie 1 does the same. No wonder I'm hooked. Thanks for the invite to your shop.
I have learned so much from Mustie1. Looks like this channel will be the same.
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Yea Mustie is awesome too, but for some reason I fall asleep watching his videos sometimes. I think it's his voice.
Every time you threaten to end a video early I get scared and check to see how much time is left haha.
mark wheeland I literally did the same thing!
@@markplenty2631 yep. I'll bet that many of us do that.
An HONEST MECHANIC is a blessing.
lol, I would have said, ''Almost impossible to find.''
a. mechanic. is. like. a good. DR. OR. BAD. DOCTOR.
And rare!! lol Wish we could clone Eric O and put him in every shop in america!
Rare Animal to find been looking for 40+ years
It's funny I work on cars all day just to go home crack a beer and watch you work on cars. Keep up the great work.
Professional Tip: Always keep a pan of used anti-freeze under the car when you are working on it. Then you will know where to find your dropped tools. :-)
If you're lucky, the dropped tool or part will drop all the way into your catch pan. Otherwise, it's stuck somewhere half way down... I think I've added many grey hairs from that.
I'm pretty sure there's still a jubilee clip in my engine bay somewhere from removing the air intake. Got a bit muddled between the jigs and the reels removing the old part and putting in the new part. It all went back ok in the end with enough clips for all. Still though, there's that nagging feeling that at one stage I was missing a clip and it may be in there somewhere.
@@KCurramsPhotography ...well, "ya can't win 'em ALL-!!!"
I applaud your patience of over coming the difficulties you came upon and kept charging hard to accomplish the mission. If you had a TV show, I would be a viewer.
The authentic reactions are such a bonus and a big part of what makes these videos better than the rest. "Stupid Hondas. I will rip the front end off of this car!" I had to laugh since we've all shared that same frustration. Thanks for keeping it real, Eric!
Hey we try to keep it real here!
I've noticed since Erics subscriber list have grown, the phone rings more often. This guy is a genius... More power to ya Mr O. ☺
Genius?.....I get the feeling that he makes it up as he goes and most of the things he does just makes him look more shade tree.
It's 10pm, I was about to go to bed. Darn it I'll crack open a beer and watch
I like engine Videos...
It's 4am here, time to crack open a few beers and watch Eric
It's 7:00am in the morning, time to brew a pot of coffee and watch Eric.
Me too! I love watching Eric workin on engines. Also had a Ridgeline and currently a V6 accord with a similar engine so I'm especially interested in this one.
LOL, I had to wait a few days, but it's a great video either way
I also love how you're not afraid to be raw and honest on your vids and don't Edit those moments out when mistakes happen it shows that you're Real and not fake ya know
laughed so hard at tearing the bumper off for a socket. tools are sneaky
You still use the first socket you bought when you were 14 years old? No wonder Mrs O. says you keep all your tools even after you buy new sets. I totally believe it is a superstition thing. I still have an uncirculated 1880 San Francisco mint silver dollar I acquired as a good luck piece when I went to VietNam in 1965. It worked for me.
I still have my first socket set. It’s about 30yrs old.
I hope Hannah was on the internet ordering you the same small air ratchet you lost on this job.
I hope you were able to rebuild your broken one. I'm sure you could make it better than it was before.
You have the technology. You can make it Better.......stronger.....faster.
It's like watching a heart surgeon at work, makes me have great respect for such talented mechanics. Excellent video. Makes you realize that electric vehicles are more sensible.
The Guy wearing a Jeep Hat saying that a Honda is indestructible. That is making my day for sure.
I personally cannot believe the lack of competence of every shop where I live. Every time I try to depend on someone else to work on my truck, they screw it up. I recently got 4 new tires. 1. I could not loosen the lug nuts with my earthquake 1/2 inch impact tool. On every hub cap, they bent the plastic alignment pin over. You would think they would have noticed the well in the rim to receive that pin. Nope, they went ahead and bent every one over and forced the cap on. Two of the new tires keep losing air. I needed my longest breaker bar and a three foot piece of pipe to break the lug nuts loose. Another shop replaced my AC compressor and when I picked up the truck, they raved about 25 degrees out of the vents. On my way home, all air flow stopped. Yes, the evaporator coil was freezing up. I researched my AC system, and replaced the high pressure cut off sensor. Fixed. I'm really lucky I did not blow up the new compressor. Most shops today employ idiots. They don't know, or don't care, which is worse. I'm 77 and my better half keeps asking me why I still do my own work. I just told you why. There is no Eric O, or Brian over at fordtechmakuloco near me.
Bought an SMA shirt. NO POCKET! Keep the great content coming.
Dealership not off the hook...they quoted an engine replacement. Good job Eric!
Anybody that looks for a socket for 7 hours is a strong person and doesn't give up on anything.
Fantastically honest video showing exactly what a brilliant man this is !
"What do we call shirts with no pockets, Hannah?" "Rags!" - She's getting an expert-level education right there! I bet the ASE trainers don't cover that.
They don't this is more learn in the field kind of thing. A older gentleman garage in my youth was a wealth of knowledge. Always had the time to teach me tips and trick of the Trade. Eric is much the same thing with the newer cars and trucks.
My favorite mechanic on youtube. You actually go in depth about the repairs and explain your methods. Plus your diagnostics are top notch. I can't wait to see this channel top all the others.
I hear you loud and clear Eric. I stopped going to the dealership years ago because every time they'd "fix" something, they'd break something else and I'd end up fixing it myself. I expect better quality from the dealership that is supposed to doing O.E. quality work.
warusweims: that's why you call them the stealership. lol
In my mind, the dealership still isn't off the hook. They told this poor lady she needed a whole new motor when all she had was some carbon build up on two valves.
This is the difference between a real mechanic and dealer rookies
To be fair, that is her interpretation of what was said. But, could be. I love this channel but one of the reasons I wrench my own is because having gone to repair shops and dealerships in the past, knowing what I know, Ive seen dishonesty or poor work in at least 50% of the interactions I've had.
Hey now. Not all dealer techs are "rookies." We have some good diag guys where I work. Heck, I am doing this EXACT job right now. I'd give the customer the choice on replacing the engine or a valve job.
Dealer bill padding!
At 80k Replace engine? with what an engine with 75k on it. If a valve job will fix it be rare and sell what is needed.
Thanks for the video Dr! You should see how direct injection heads look like! LOL
I definitely would pressure test that head afterwards. I stand by my saying in the other video (cracked head in the valve steam area) lol but I'm very curious to see what all u find 🙌 ur a awesome mechanic great work
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I'm watching this 7 years from this original posted year, but you just showed me what I have to do. I snapped one of those intake manifolds you screwed of in the middle.
Thank VCM for this mess. Glad I disabled VCM on our Crosstour.
Your Pilot timing belt video really helped me do the timing belt on my '06 Accord. And I didn't even need a new engine afterwards!
brian0918 Same here with my 09 Odyssey. I'd never done a timing belt before, but it purred like a kitten when I was done.
I've watched 100's of videos on U tube and this one is the best quality of all that I've seen. No vertigo from a a bouncing camera, the dialog is of high quality Just the best of the best. I must have missed what the owner said about oil consumption.
Just subscribed, I love how you work,you keep it simple. Your also exposing truth behind the issues, because your honest I love this. Screw dealerships man, it's guys like you helping society and means more than you you will ever know.
Awesome. Can't wait for the trip to the machine shop. I hope he's not camera shy and is willing to talk. Thanks Eric, this is a great series!
A friend of mine took his sienna to the dealer, they told him the overheating was due to the head gasket. Told him it was cheaper to put in a new motor...blah blah...BS.
Im studying for my ASE, been working on cars for years. He asked me if i would take a look. Turned out the dealer actually had changed the thermostat but neglected to bleed the system. Bled the air after another thermostat...theyre cheap. Been good ever since. I knew they were crooks....but damn man
Not so much crooks, as they are just fucking stupid. Haven't dealt with a dealer tech yet that knew their ass from their elbow.
I just noticed that you're in Avoca, NY. Last July, I bought a car in Rush, NY and we drove it from Rush to Los Angeles, CA. 4088 miles in 2 weeks. It's a 1973 Alfa Romeo Spider - it was a great trip, but we had some rust in the gas tank issues - clogged up a lot of fuel filters and burned out a couple fuel pumps on the trip. Wouldn't trade it for the world!
Thanks again for sharing.
Had to post comment to thank you man. I'm doing the head gasket on my wife's MDX and was having a hard time getting that water passage off...no matter how much I wiggled and pulled it wouldn't budge. Then I saw you just pry at the water pipe connection with your pliers and pop it off...2 minutes later I had mine off to. Thanks!
Man, I swear you are one of the best mechanics I have seen on youtube. Thank you for keeping this professional alive and well! and most of all HONEST! My side job is turning wrenches Being doing it since I was 10 years old (farm boy here) some of the things I have seen done to customers by some dealership service departments is unspeakable...
"Went to the dealer for everything" I feel bad for her wallet!
Mike Miller probably why they tried hitting her for a new engine, instead of a reman head. They might've gotten that work but greed...
IKR.. Dealers are often stealers.
Greed always hits the dealers in the ass every time. I ordered an exhaust system for a minivan from dodge. $625!!! Waite for two months and nothing. Finally went to Meineke for half the price. A month later they have my parts. I told them to keep it and never paid for it. They put in a rack for me. Charged 9 hours. It 6 1/2 hours in the book. I never went back.
@@Mike383HK sometimes on customer pay jobs on older vehicles with high miles they will inflate labor times to cover themselves if the job takes longer than it should. Generally CP work is double warranty book time
@@brandonfoss9445 This book time is from the general repair manual that every mechanic uses. Not a dealer book.
Eric,
Great video!
This was a super common problem on 90's era Honda 4 cylinders. It was sometimes referred to as the Quick Lube Syndrome. Car drove in, running perfect, left with a missed at idle. When the engine was cut off, a piece of carbon would drop, usually off the intake valve and cause a valve not to seal. Honda's solution was to soak the intake down with a top cylinder cleaner, sometimes by filling the cylinders thru the spark plug hole and other times by drawing a solution into the intake.
The Euros are having similar issues due to direct injection and a foaming cleaner applied directly to the valves via a removed intake and or exhaust, or applied into the spark plug hole and reapplied over the course of 45 minutes or so, then washed out with a separate chemical, then either intake installed or spark plugs installed, engine started and warmed then a Air Imtake Cleaning, then an Oil Change done, finally a good long Test Drive and the car is good to go.
This type of chemical service has become a PM for so many cars now.
From an ASE Master Tech, L1 certified and a Shop Owner down here in VA.
Keep up the GREAT work!
seems like putting a camera down the cylinder would have been a better diagnoses to this than TAKING THE whOLE DAMN HEAD OFF
You have earned my respect here. Your honesty and not trying to hide stuff speaks well for you imo. I am still impressed with how efficient you seem to be. I know part of that comes with years of doing it. But still it impresses me. Keep up the good work, stay safe, and happy holidays.
You know what’s better than going to the dealer for work on your car. Going to the dealer to get oem parts and putting them on yourself
hi Eric Im from Sultanate of Oman hope I can travel to USA just meeting u fantastic as usual
To be a successful mechanic you have to be most patient person in the world. Hats off!
We are rootin' for you Eric every step of the way; challenging project.
I think one bad employee at the dealership can make a lot of messes.
Or a few.
I think you're right. Subaru dealer in Cheyenne tolls me they don't do mandatory safety recalls on cars over ten years old. That was 2010, they've lost two new car sales and all service for my family since (Dealer in Laramie did the recall).
Plus a lousy shop foreman and a greedy dealership manager.
We called them the Dirty Dozen.
Like a surgeon and a nurse
Sorry I didn't read 473 comments to see if someone else already said this, but... I wouldn't be surprised if it was acting that way before she took it in for the {early} timing belt service hoping it would fix the problem. Why else would someone volunteer for a several hundred dollar maintenance bill earlier than needed? Like others have mentioned its not surprising to see oil consumption and carbon buildup in one or more cylinders on these engines due to the Honda piston ring fubar.
Jon Dison some people like to follow recommended intervals so thier car lasts. I never do but plenty of people do.
It's usually 100k miles OR xx number of months. She was probably following the months.
Nodak81 yeah which ever comes first you might be right. Many people just drive the cars but don’t really take care of them. That’s why manufactures put out a cost of ownership over so many years so people know how much to spend or will spend if they keep the vehicle
no I don’t believe this year engine has the VCM engine killer....
Three and a half years later, your video popped up in my feed. I loved the adventure.
Really enjoyed your video. I've been an industrial maintenance tech for about 30 years. About the manifold, you know stuff happens. Swapped a couple of engines in my younger days.
I have always been amazed how you guys can just tear apart an engine like that without writing anything down that you did. Putting it back together for me would be a nightmare without steps or a list of things I removed in order so I know to put them back in that order. Or I would be putting stuff back and then realize I have to take something back off because something else needs to go on first. Just amazes me how you guys do it.
Comes with experience. When I first started, I had to write down, bag and label EVERYthing..
As a hobbyist mechanic, I have to write down what the bolts are for to help in re-assembly. I might not reassemble for a while, slowed down by my regular job.
When I first started I was like that, after you do the same job over and over you just remember where everything goes. I do a lot of dash removals and I no longer bag anything.
just get a good manual and that will be easy. There is one specially for Ridgeline on the internet (for 2006-2008 models)
When I did a head gasket on my S10 I ended up bagging the bolts and labeling the bags because it was just too much to remember. Would be so much easier if you didn't have to remove a thousand unrelated parts just to access the ones you're actually trying to fix. That's the biggest thing I miss about working on big old cars, plenty of room under the hood.
"I guess we just start unplugging stuff" That's my motto
Eric, I love the way you keep it real! I wouldn't watch your channel if you didn't show mistakes! Thanks buddy!
Eric O. & Andrew Camarada are the only two reasons that I would ever consider moving to New York for :)
Nice vid Eric, hum looks familiar :)
"My wiper fluid is low"
Honda dealer- needs a new engine.
Lazy ass MFers! Why work on vehicles if you dont want to work? I work in machine maintenance and have plenty of coworkers just like them. Lazy and no work ethic or pride in thier field.
Lucky there are people like you, and i hope im id be considered in a similar category.
I like the way you just work it out one step at a time with no BS. Great find.
My biggest problem when attempting a big job like this is, is remembering how to put everything back together and knowing which fasteners go where and such. I'm thoroughly amazed people such as yourself can do all that!
Paul Moore: it's all part of the job. When you know your stuff, you know how.
Have seen a couple of these engines having a leaky valve stem seals. also the fuel used can cause this type of carbon buildup.
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i would never take any of my cars to a main dealer they are a rip off and dont do a proper job just after our money , would take to some one like you eric as at least you look in to things before making a decision and you are genuine , love watching your vids leart a lot keep them coming . not seen cheeky trinity lately lol
not all dealerships are like that, just like not all independent shops are good either
Hey there! Thank you for showing what you have done, mistakes and all. I have not done a deconstruction as extensive that. But I really understand frustrating jobs and missing favorite tools. I hope you got a well-made replacement for what busted.
If I understand correctly, Honda engines are fairly reliable-running. Considering how much complicated material is crammed into a cramped space, it seems the tendency not to break down is a real saving grace.
Well damn. In 14 years as a technician, I have never seen an issue with carbon so bad it is holding a valve open! First for everything I guess. As for all the people in the comments saying the dealership should be paying for the repair- Why? It is not their fault this has happened! Yes, they screwed up on that mount, but that's it. Look forward to part 3, and hopefully we can get a sweet video at old school machine shop!
Was that the problem or possibly ???
***** The valve was clearly being held open by carbon. Whatever caused that, is not the fault of the dealer.
Wouldn't it be possible for the timing to be off ever so slightly which causes carbon buildup on one cylinder and not the others though? And we don't get to see the other three cylinders either, could be that there's another about to have enough buildup to start leaking too? Or at least it would have gotten there if the timing wasn't fixed.
I'd say, there's a big chance the Honda dealer did indeed cause this issue, looking at all the other things they messed up.
Well they did tell the lady she needed an entire engine so...that in itself is lazy/shady...
Eric mentioned that the timing was not off. I guess anything is possible, we'll just have to wait and see!
i wonder if egr passages might be plugged up causing excessive flow to just that cyl? sounds rediculous i know, but depending on the style of egr system, i have heard of it happening. dodge 3.7l is notorious for high carbon build up on the rear cyl's
Glad to see I'm not the only one who knocks sockets into odd places and spends more time getting it back than fixing the vehicle ...
Eric another great video great mechanic work as well you truly sir are a master I like how you stick with it and find out exactly what is going on take care of yourself
Let's see how this goes. Sounds like the dealer ripped her off good!
That vacuum sounds like an air raid siren!!
I like the way the wife unit retrieves tools for you 😊👍
You are the chosen one Eric, I woukld spent 7 days n nights to recover my tools too!
One exhaust valve with build up.....hmmmmm....been leaking for quite some time???
Didn't he say she drove it for a few thousand miles after the timing belt job?
PCV is located very close to #4 cylinder. Is it possible that crankcase vapors are preferentially directed to #4? Great video!
lol its a 3 cylinder
Michael Zak it’s a V6, there are 2 heads...
@@MikeZak101 yep a 3 cylinder... in a Ridgeline..... or in America for that matter.....
I was thinking kind of the same thing. Its a Vteck so there are plenty of places oil can sneak around... Old Chevys with TurboHydros would suck trans fluid out of the (failed) trans vacuum modulators and trash the rear plugs and then eventually the exhaust valves on 7 and 8 if you let it go too long. The more things change the more they remain the same.
tube it tothe frame, vapers
Sunday morning and just watching Eric O. Great Job....
When you have an awesome tool, ALWAYS buy two of them. One for current work and one for a backup/replacement.
It's time for a cup of tea in London for real men's ha ha "love you work
come on, upload part 3
Thanks Eric O...just sold my 2008 Ridgeline and purchased a 2019 RTL
I am supporting you from Singapore, hope to fly there to see you guys. I love fixing cars, love watching your videos, learnt so much, thanks. God bless you .
PCV System failure?
Dumping oil to cylinder 4 what is closest of the PCV connector on intake??
Good point
Yes, check that stuff for sure
How much of the extra carbon on valve stem could be caused from the leaking through the valve once it started leaking a little? Just a thought. Exhaust valve getting extra hot from leakage and junk cooking on it better ( ??? ) once it gets going it’s a downhill roll till it looks like this
@@michaelszczys8316 this comes from not using all the engines power sometimes , every engine need full throttle during att least 30 minutes driving above 120 mph , just to burn away the carbon buildup on the exhust-valve
@@morganreyman7929 Are you talking about the "Italian Tune-up"?
A pro Hondoo Brain surgeon + comedy central at work here.
If I ever break down while in Newyorkistan, I want it to be around South Main Auto
I like the work you do. Very impressive! Thanks for sharing with us.
I could do that if I had all those tools - especially the one under your hat! Respect!
wonder if a carbon depletion service would have removed enough carbon on the valve to fix it? would have been a cheaper repair!
Maybe, but as far as he knew / suspected, it was a bent valve following the belt swap. Would you want to risk running the engine up to speed/temp for a chemical service, believing it may have a bent valve?
Eric, is it possible for you to do a toolbox tour?
Appreciate your time spent making these videos!
Thanks for showing that big line clamp. I have one of those holding my ground cable onto the bottom of my Honda's battery tray and I couldn't see how it came undone. Now I know.
it'd be a shame if you went through the whole diagnosis just to find out its drinking quarts of oil between services... that would have been nice to know, there's your problem lady!
What makes me curious is the dealership pronouncing the vehicle needs a new engine. It could be they are just out for profit but it could mean they know something, maybe some common failure mode for this engine.
Rip 1128. Will Always Love You and all those crazy sounds you made.
Hannah is the best help any mechanic could ever want!!! Is she a nurse yet?
Cool video. The question now is why so much carbon? Its a mystery. Hondas live forever with good maintenance.
Actually those days are far gone. In the midnight he's Honda peaked as far as their quality. Ever since then it's been a slow slide down. They're not interested anymore in engines going to and 300,000 miles. It's not even about the quality of the material. What manufacturing has come down to is how quickly you can put these cars together and how little the cost should be to put them together. It's all about engineering efficiency of assembly with out a bunch of defects.. and yes I'm TH-cam engineer
hannah is in the house
No Mechanic is as Thorough As You….God bless!
I just want to say how refreshing it is to see an honest knowledgeable mechanic that really cares about people and is willing to do out of box fixes instead of just slapping on $1000.00 parts & who wakes up worrying about a diagnosis. Thank you, I only wish I were near you or could find someone with your ethics. Those of us who know nothing about cars are forced to trust mechanics and are often told we need a new engine when we dont. You are a credit to your profession! Love the videos also! Subbed!
What is the deal with the dealer and now this other shop you just mentioned that their response to an engine miss or coolant consumption is to replace the engine? Are their "technicians" not competent enough to go into an engine and repair it?
Honda dealer not really off the hook in my book because they told her she needs a new engine which is patently false. A little bit of carbon does not warrant a new engine for Christ sake! That engine far from worn out. Valve stem seals is the only real problem here but the head needs some cleaning up as well. Yes bring the shotgun to the Zombie village out in the sticks.
Rod Palm but why is the engine burning oil. Thats the real issue. The only thing the dealer did was strip a bolt.
I love your channel. I have been binge watching like it is NETFLIX!!!
As a 24+ yr tech & 14 yrs worth at a Honda dealer....that carbon build up never reared its head till I worked on my own Suzuki GS 1150ES, one cylinder was out...popped the head off & bits of carbon fouling the valve-seat. New seals & a good lapping in & it all was good..
This is something I see on an engine with 170k not 70k, was someone playing with the odometer perhaps?
Kinda funny etcg worked for a Honda dealership and we've all seen his work
Are you trying to say something about Eric the Car Guy. I think he's a great mechanic.
Good thing you have a Tundra now Eric - it will treat you well, my 08 sure has! 215k and counting - 3 sets of tires,2 windshields,1 set of front brakes,1 serp belt,2 batteries,regular fluid/filter changes,a battery clamp, and a few random light bulbs - I can't ask for better than that! I drive 75% gravel roads too. I've always used mobil 1, 5w20 grade up until 200k...when I started towing a 9,000lb camper! Then I switched to 5w30 Mobil 1 and honestly...it's just better. In fact, if you look at Toyota specs for the 5.7 engine in other countries...20w50 is approved in hot climates! So 5w30 for the longevity win!!
The engineers at Honda went above and beyond mounting those fans. I lol'd when I heard you say they left the bottom bolts out of the radiator fan.
mostly because I left mine out when I replaced my radiator in my '03 Pilot