lol i went to watch 50 shades for the 1st time and stopped like 30 min in when the main guy said that he got into bdsm bc of his mom's friend when he was 15 and dakota johnson's character said, "she seduced you?" it made me laugh bc that's not seduction that predatory behavior
The Amy Winehouse bioptic really rubs me the wrong way since at this point it's such transparent oscar bait that it's almost insulting to Amy. You really have to ask yourself whether Amy would want the biopic made in the first place
There's something about biopics lately that feel fake and disrespectful. At least from Bohemian Rhapsody, Elvis and now this one. Rocketman and The Dirt feel less pandering, messy and Oscar bait than the other modern biopic movies. Sam Taylor's filmography THRIVES on the sketchy biopics lol. Hopefully James Mangold's Bob Dylan biopic is one of the good ones.
@jgg59 where did you get this info. i couldnt find any sources. every article detailing their relationship says that they met in 2009 before he turned 19.
I’m sick of people using the same “consenting adults” argument to explain away age gaps and grooming. Just because someone turns 18 doesn’t magically make them of sound enough mind to not be susceptible to predatory behavior. Also, there shouldn’t be a double standard. DiCaprio hooking up with comparative children is super gross as well and he should be canceled for it.
Exactly! I think you put this so well. I know me personally as an 18year old I didn’t feel any more mature or different than I did at 17. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it!
Weird how that usually only goes one way right? Dicaprio sleeps with actual children (because at 18 you ARE still a kid) but when she does it we should "just be happy for them"
@@AbbieRee If the age of consent was always something like 25 throughout all of human history, how many people do you think would exist today? Do you think you would even exist to make this comment? The human race might have very well gone extinct generations ago if all of the young women who married and had children in their late teens never had those children. Most people alive today wouldn't even exist. Up until recently, most people would graduate from high school, immediately get married, and start families. Had they never done that, there would probably be just a few dozen people left on the planet; if that. You guys create moral standards out of thin air and can't even say where you got them from. They're completely arbitrary and made up.
@@methylphosphatePOET You must be the one kid in the ethics 101 class who disagrees with everyone to try and appear smarter during discussions, and you wonder why no one likes you. A true sigma to the end. 👍🏼
My mother told me once, that there are usually 3 factors that are at play in relationships with large age gaps (and gender is irrelevant). Sex, money, drugs. Idc what anyone says, an 18 year old and a 40- something year old have absolutely NOTHING in common. The mind set is different. The body set is different. EVERYTHING is different. And when you think about it, it really is gross. When he was born, she was in her 20s, already out of high school, probably in her own place, driving a car, dealing with finances ... and he was just born! So gross.
>Idc what anyone says, an 18 year old and a 40- something year old have absolutely NOTHING in common. They can't share similar hobbies? They can't share similar political views? Similar philosophies? >And when you think about it, it really is gross. I don't care what you find gross (this is a tired argument), I care if the age gap is causing harm, and I am not convinced Aaron Taylor Johnson is being harmed.
@@admiralfrancis8424 When they met, he was a child. She was a grown ass woman. You won't know that the age gap is causing harm because you're not in the relationship. If a glowing 15 year old starting talking about their wonderful 25 year old lover, would it seem harmful? Probably not. Yet it would still be wrong. She directed a movie he was in which is how they met so she was already in a position of authority over him. The power imbalance was even worse in their situation. No teenager is able to consent to a relationship with someone old enough to be their parent.
@@misspriss2482 First of all, unless she groomed him during his childhood, I don't care. Second of all, if someone in an age gap relationship told you that that there isn't/wasn't any harm being done, would you believe them? Or would you move the goalpost and say they were brainwashed? Third of all, was Aaron 17 or 18 when he filmed with his then future wife? If 18, then unless he was groomed from an earlier age, then I don't care. Meeting someone as a kid an then years later marrying them when they're an adult, even if barely, is not the same thing as grooming them, especially if the relationship was developed during legal age. Fourth of all, every relationship has a power imbalance, even if one partner is not richer than the other. Anyone of every age is susceptible to predatory manipulation, that's why cults are so common. Finally, as long as someone is 18+, then let them date whoever they want. You can't protect young adults from everything. If you are going to say that 18 year olds are not mature enough to date whomoever they want, then you might as well ban them from voting, considering that the consequences are more serious than any age gap relationship.
i genuinely dont understand how people still argue if she groomed him or not. she did. its not "allegations". its literally exactly what happened. like she did the textbook definition of grooming. if you look up groomer in the dictionary her picture would show up. the only reason its debated is because shes a woman and hes a younger man. i hope aaron gets outta there and finds someone whos not predatory towards him
the textbook definition is: targeted contact of minors with intent of sexual abuse (sexual abuse being unconsential sexual actions towards/with minors) she didnt contact him, since he auditioned. he was 18 - not a minor. wether she intended to cast an 18 year old in order to sexually abuse him cannot be confirmed/denied. You could make the case that he wasnt able to consent bc of some sort of power dynamic and him possibly being a very immature 18-year old. But i think while this situation is undoubtably wierd it's far from "textbook definition" grooming.
@@NiklasStrahammer 'targeted contact' doesn't mean groomers have to literally go out and find children for it to count. If a family friend grooms a child sleeping over at their house it's still grooming, whether they planned to have the kid over or not
I can say that Sam and Aaron’s relationship was not professional during the filming of Nowhere Boy. There was an article written YEARS back by a journalist who was on set of the film for a while, and he mentioned he would be uncomfortable around Sam and Aaron because they were very flirty and touchy with each other. I recall he wrote that one time on set it started to rain and Sam and Aaron danced in the rain together (I might be getting a few details wrong.) anyway, I think that says a lot. Also I despise Nowhere Boy for cutting out Cynthia Lennon, John’s first wife that he was with during the time period of Nowhere Boy. I have no idea why Sam decided to cut Cynthia out and focus more on some quasi incest relationship between John and his mother.
A Million Little Pieces is “controversial” due to the fact that the book was marketed as a memoir when it turned out to be mostly fiction. And the writer James Frey got confronted by Oprah about it. Apparently the Publisher agreed to refund certain copies of the book to costumers who bought it thinking it was true. James Frey has continued to be massively successful as a novelist. And the movie came out about 10 years after everyone forgot about the controversy.
Yes! I found that out when researching the film. It went so deep that honestly I didn’t have enough time to cover it in this video. I think it needs a whole video for itself because it’s truly interesting and insane. Thank you for bringing this up I appreciate your time 😊
she's is just a average director i think, and yeah her relationship with aaron is just weird, and i think someone's personal life does affect how their art is percieved, in her case the movies are average buttttt the whole grooming thing doesnt exactly help her movies. last thing, sleeping with your way younger actor is one thing, but marrying them is another level, just flip the genders and it turns super weird, not saying this wasn't weird to begin with
Well said! I think it definitely comes down to how well you can separate art from artist, I think because they are so in the public about their relationship it’s harder for people to focus on her work more than her relationship Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it 🥰
In an unfortunate turn of events, I will have to give her credit for the John Lennon/mommy stuff in Nowhere Boy. There’s a quote out there somewhere where Lennon admits he would have slept with his mother if he knew for certain she’d be into it 😭 but it’s still hilarious that it’s her who directed it
Had no idea who she is, but glad to see people criticising that new Amy Winehouse biopic, the endless biopics nowadays are increasingly cynical assembly-made IP trash, and unfortunately still extremely profitable even when pretty mediocre and entirely dependent on the goodwill of the artist's namesake and existence rather than any creativity or goodwill on the part of producers or even directors.
I agree, honestly there has been so many biopics recently and more in the making. I understand the concept of introducing a new generation to these people but I feel like this isn’t always the best way of doing it. Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I appreciate it 😊
If you want to a watch an actually great biopic I recommend Love and Mercy. It was only made because John Cusak had a unique cinematic idea of how to tell Brian Wilson’s story. Not because music biopics do well, or the execs wanted to drum up some modern interest in The Beach Boys. If anything it’s a pretty awful beach boys movie since it only intensely focuses on Brian during two difficult periods of his life. You can tell the film was a passion project, not just Oscar bait. Also, Paul Dano gives another incredible performance, but that’s to be expected at this point. J
Taylor Swift also dated a 16-year-old in her twenties (conor kennedy) right after the death of his mother, when he would've been emotionally vulnerable and susceptible to manipulation. Then she also dated multiple other teens, despite claiming she couldn't consent to a relationship with John Mayer at 19. There shouldn't be double standards for female abusers or male victims. I've been targeted by female abusers, and they can be just as dangerous.
Also John Mayer was 31 when he dated a 19 year old. I'd say a 22 year old dating an 18 year old is quite different than that. I'm 21 and sometimes I forget I'm not in school anymore. I don't feel any more mature than I was at 18 or 19 just more depressed lol
@@anushkakulkarni112I love how this person debunked the original commenter and your only defense is “it’s still gross!!!!!!” Is 18 and 22 not a reasonable age gap? because you have Leo dating people until they turn 25, and in that aspect people paint the 25 year olds as babies practically- so in that case how can 22 be too old for an 18 year old? you don’t magically become an entirely different person at 18, or at 22. Age gaps can be VERY bad but if we’re bitching at a measly 4 years between two adults then we might as well criminalize every single age gap ever.
Not to mention the controversy already surrounding a million little pieces- the author famously lied. Most of that book never happened. It’s my understanding he was never addicted to drugs and only ever spent a few days in jail. It was a huge controversy because he lied to Oprah about it
Interesting, I’ll have to look up that controversy. I thought the guy exaggerated everything, too much to still be considered a memoir, but was still an addict.
@@lindseystein9676 Oh really? I could be wrong--I thought he had lied about everything or nearly everything. But then again this did happen back in 2003, so it's totally possible that I'm not remembering everything correctly
I’m pretty sure that opening shot of nowhere boy is trying to mirror the opening of the Beatle’s movie Hard Days’ Night in the 60’s. They’re running from screaming girls, trip, get up, and keep running.
John Lennon in home tapes in the 1970s said he had a feeling towards his mother in some way due to him meeting her for the first time when he was a teenage boy, the scene on the couch is a thing he talked about in those tapes.
That’s genuinely so weird. I don’t understand how meeting ur mom later in ur life is the reason why ur sexually attracted to her. I think he’s just a creep.
@@alexarias5717 LENNON: It is a diary form of writing. All that 'I used to be cruel to my woman, I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved' was me. I used to be cruel to my woman, and physically... any woman. I was a hitter. I couldn't express myself and I hit. I fought men and I hit women. That is why I am always on about peace, you see. It is the most violent people who go for love and peace. - In an interview from Playboy
Sam did have expectations as a director due to her success with Nowhere Boy. But she blew it with Fifty Shades and the Amy Winehouse biopic. For those who want to see a good story about Winehouse and her career, go see Amy (documentary) from the guy that brought Senna and Diego Maradona.
I think nowhere boy was visually the most stunning like you said the projects she’s decided to do after are so different and haven’t necessarily benefited her. The Amy documentary is what I always recommend to people! Thank you so much for your comment ☺️
I do feel like women directors have lofty expectations anymore. You're going to be the next big thing or your chopped liver. Seems like Patty Johnson's career was thrown to the wolves with Wonder Woman 2. Kathryn Bigelow has had a very consistent career (Detroit was great! Her movie before that was Zero Dark Thirty, was spectactularly well received, as was the Hurt Locker) but you don't hear her name mentioned. It's Greta Gerwig, the next big thing, or a male director oddly enough
To the " Nowhere boy" movie, (which I haven't watched) and the relation ship to his mother: In fact, Lennon said in one late interview ( guess in Playboy), that He maybe should have Trier to sleep with his mother. That she has been very open minded, that he could well imagine she would have liked to be asked by him. It is quite gross and disturbing. On the other hand, that was one line in a million interviews, he'd given. He must have had a very ambivalent relationship to his early die mother. But it's hard to say, if the regisseur was even aware of this interview. It's possible she didn't and that it's just her own strange way to write love stories.
Very interesting! I didn’t realise that. I did wonder if it had any truth to it because it was portrayed is such a weird way and I hadn’t seen anything about their relationship being like that. Thanks for giving some context and sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it ☺️
It shows that how broken this world is where people are not recognizing their own brother and sister but falling into temptation because it feels good to feel that way. It is so sad to see or to even hear such things how people can go so far for their lust. This whole world need to get healed.
the thing is, he's helpless. grooming victims who don't realise they have been groomed are pathologically devoted to their abusers. not to mention there's children involved
Great video! The opening shot you mentioned for Nowhere Boy is a reference to the Beatles' first movie "A Hard Day's Night", where the four are running away from a horde of fans.
I don't know. It's weird that men seem to get a pass on this, with plenty of directors having relationships with their MUCH younger film stars, including more than one case of those actresses being under legal adult age. And most of the time, those directors don't face much backlash. And those relationships don't tend to end in (seemingly) successful marriages. But we have this woman and her adult (barely at the time, admittedly) star, and suddenly the sky is falling. Is that a big age gap? Yeah. So was the gap between Harrison Ford and Calista Flockhart, but we don't talk about that 15 years later. Is an 18 or 19 year old mature enough for that kind of relationship? I don't know. I wasn't. But I don't know these people. Hell, I wasn't really mature enough for a good, adult relationship until I was in my 40s. I keep thinking about how Roger Moore quit playing James Bond in part because they were pairing him up with women who were his granddaughter's age, and he didn't feel comfortable with it. But the producers did. The public did. Those movies still drew numbers. Also, thinking about it, if there's an age gap where the man is substantially older than the woman, it's just something that happens in the film and isn't really talked about, where as if there's an age gap where the woman is older than the man, that relationship is typically what the film is about. That seems seems weird.
Wow ! I really have nothing to add to this. You made some very valid points and ones that are often brushed over in the media, I do think it’s interesting how if the tables were turned and it was an older man and younger woman it would be treated differently. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts on this I really appreciate it 😊
Most examples you can find of Older Male directors and younger Female Actresses are mostly from before the 2000s. Yes it happened in the past. It was wrong. And recently we have as a society finally come to a point where we can call it out. Look and Leo Dicaprio getting constantly shit on for dating women under 25. When Darren Aronofsky was a in a relationship with Jennifer Lawrence while simultaneously casting her in his movie Mother! he rightfully got called out. To finally come this far where we can call out a wrong thing for bieng wrong but then demanding that we now give women in Power a pass for doing the same thing because Powerful Men in the past got away with it just seems like taking a step back.
@@kingkiller5325who’s giving women in power a pass?? I’ve seen women constantly condemn this relationship. It’s men I’ve seen who’ve been silent about it
@@chidiogoikeh4550 This comment that I replied to is literally justifying and normalizing the relationship in question. Op is giving this female director a pass with the exact argument that Male Directors in the past got a pass. And he/she is not the only one. Plenty of people(a lot of them women too) do give Women in positions of power a pass for these things with tbe exact same argument that Men in the past did it and nobody complained so people shouldn't complain now when Women do it. Men have been silent about what? This relationship? Men have been talking about it for quite a while. Relationships like these are the main talking point of Manosphere Bros who can use it to propagate their gift about how no one cares about Men's issues.
@@chidiogoikeh4550 There are men who call out women like this. The thing is, women have privileges in these types of issues. I've seen women gives excuses for other women who committed physical or sexual violence against men. Because your speaking as if all women call out other women, which isn't true at all. There are clear double standards that men face, it's such a problem.
perhaps it is just me, but everytime I see a "BioPic" I find it almost predatory in its twisting and perverting the story of the persons actual life for the sake of cheap drama and sensationalism. I can safely say I am happy I have never seen any of this directors films and likely never will.
I’m not a fan of watching biopics not because I don’t appreciate the artist or the cinematography or actors but just because like you said something deep down about it doesn’t seem right. In some cases when the artist themselves has helped with the production and is on board like rocket man with Elton it doesn’t seem as bad but even then it does seem slightly weird. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on this I really appreciate it ! ☺️
IMO there's nothing wrong with large age gaps in relationships between two consenting adults. But still, dating a teenager while being in your 40s is just nasty.
Yes exactly, once both are consenting adults then it's up to both to have whatever experiences they choose. Large age gaps involving those under 25 are still weird but that's their life. However if a much older person knows someone as a child or teenager, let alone be too close for comfort, and then they immediately come public with their relationship upon it becoming legal? That's gross
This is amazing, you had me laughing so much. Black to Black was shockingly inaccurate and not needed due to the really well made documentary titled “Amy”. It may of worked if she had picked a specific short period of time in her life before fame, like she did with Nowhere Boy. But I agree with you biopics rarely work when they try to span a whole persons life in 2 hours.
The only reason their "relationship" was allowed is because it's a older woman and younger man. If it was the other way around he would be classed a a pervert and pedo. She groomed this poor guy when he was young and as we know when women give up their Slit the young guy cannot control himself and will go with it. He should be with a woman that's not his "mother".
You say this as if Luc Bensson doesn’t still have a successful, cancellation-free career. Look up his relationship with Maiwenn and who 12 year old Matilda from “Leon: The Professional” was based on. (Hint: what’s the first letter in the name Matilda)
I remember when they were casting for Christian in 50 Shades of Grey, Charlie Hunnam was cast but pulled out, and while they were trying to find another actor, at one point Sam said, "oh my husband can play this" - which, given the explicit nature of the film, was a bit odd!
As a Beatles fan, Nowhere Boy had an incredible amount of detail in it. For instance when The Quarrymen do their first concert, there is a man who takes a picture of them. That picture would later turn out to be the first picture of John Lennon as a musician. Even down to John's comments when he meets Paul for the first time.
For me, I don't think the issue is specifically the age-gap or the "grooming", it's the massively gendered double standard that we have between, say, DiCaprio compared to Taylor-Johnson
Great point you bring up! it is definitely something that is very interesting. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic I really appreciate it ☺️
I hate to say this but if he was 18 when they met it's not technically grooming. It may make you feel uncomfortable but it's not wrong according to our accepted social standards.
@@neutraltoxic well one thing is social standards and legality is something else, there’s plenty of thing that are legal that aren’t seen as socially acceptable. A 40 year old dating an 18 year old is certainly legal, but you’d be hard pressed to find someone who thinks it’s right.
@@neutraltoxicgrooming doesn’t always necessarily imply pedophilia. It means there was an unbalanced power dynamic between two people. The person in the position of power (Sam) was Aaron’s boss, which consciously or not is always going to contribute to how a younger, more impressionable, up and coming actor would approach a bid for romance. He was also young as fuuuck and hadn’t even had time to form a sense of identity outside of a relationship before being thrust into the role of husband and stepfather-becoming pretty isolated from his peers. I get the double standard but I think the most worrying part is how easily people in Hollywood (in general) abuse their power.
Nicely done analysis, I didn’t know she directed Back to Black. It’s a shame that so many directors are profiting off of real tragedies, like Blonde and Marilyn Monroe. Keep up the great work!
@@AbbieRee I've recently discovered VideoProc Vlogger. It's free and doesn't leave a nasty watermark if you export a video without paying for the software.
She's a hack at the end of the day. And while her relationship with ATJ has been under scrutiny for some time, it's not nearly as paid attention to or called out like it would be if the roles were reversed. It's really that simple.
she doesn't get noticed because she's not a successful director like greta gerwig. she directed low budget films in the uk, not because of the inverted genres
@@AbbieRee I do have an idea for a video investigate Rod Serling create a video on Twilight Zone. Make a breakdown on the meaning and philosophy of the Twilight Zone
I don't have the biggest issues with age gaps ESPECIALLY if both parties are very much legal adults, but there are limitations and boxes to tick for said relationships to qualify as a "healthy" one or close enough to it. As long as both parties are very much independent of the other and don't have to rely on the other for anything, both are at least in equal footing in terms of their careers and time period in life, and one isn't in a position of power that is able to dominate the other one. However given the context of this relationship... even without the egregious age gap, it's doomed from the start.
@@ivanagustinortiz5237 Yep I agree, I was just responding to the comment re: "the most controversial female director" but while there are other female directors that are controversial, I can't think of any within the Hollywood system🤔
Sorry if this was said already, but is that opening shot in NB supposed to reference the later Beatle Mania, running away from crowds thing we'd see later?
I had no knowledge of any of this. I only stumbled on this video because ATJ was on mythical kitchens last meals and mentioned his wife so I got curious and clicked this video 🤯 And great video btw
I like Nowhere Boy purely cause I'm huge Beatles fan since I was 12 yo, and even knowing that is such an interesting subject to myself, I just don't come back to it cause it just feels so sad, like the ending could be a bit cheerful considering what happened to John Lennon right after the ending of this bleak and sad period of his life, of like amazing achievements as an artist, why does that had to be the whole movie? I'm looking forward to the Sam Mendes Beatles biopic's though. And hey Abbie great video, I like how in some parts you're in the garden outside, just for no specific reason, it gave the video a dynamic that contrasts with your low key chill vibe, the editing is great too and agree with u that their relationship took off and still feels weird in many ways to this day maybe. Keep up the good work! subscribing in 3, 2, 1...
Wow where do I start, Thank you so much for the support. I love editing a content creation it’s so fun to think of concepts I’m glad you noticed it means so much to me I have to admit I don’t know much about The Beatles but lots of people in my family are huge fans of them, with that said I do love some of their songs! Thank you again for sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it 🥰
I saw "Nowhere Boy", and I really thought she had her thumb on the scale there. John is made to look more handsome, more talented, more intelligent and just better than anyone else in his group. And the relationship with his mother? Please... That director barely read a bio, it seems, on Lennon's life. Can't say I bothered with the others after that...
She's simply not a good director. Her films lack depth and true direction. She can't create anything original and instead relies on creating exploitive lackluster films.
I’ve never seen Nowhere Boy but that opening shot looks like a reference to the opening shot of A Hard Day’s Night where they’re all running from fans.
The opening shot in Nowhere Boy is a reference to the opening shot in the Beatles’ first feature film A Hard Day’s Night which shows the band running from a crowd of screaming fans. I’m a Beatles freak so I just had to mention that lol. I always thought that was a cool creative decision and it really sucks to know that one of the better Beatles biopics has such a gross story behind its production. You could make a case for some of the weird incesty mother stuff (maybe) being based off of an audio clip of John talking about laying on the couch with his mother when he was a teenager, but I still think it’s a weird way to interpret their dynamic after reuniting. It becomes more disturbing knowing Sam Taylor-Johnson’s actions while she was shooting those very scenes.
So again I don't have a dog in this race but I still feel the need to hear my own voice and share my opinion..... or I guess in this case read my own voice? Nvm point is these are my casual thoughts. First on the controversy of Sam specifically. While the relationship does make me go "Ew" and no amount of legal adult argument will make me change my mind on that, in the States it's sometimes legal for a 14-year-old to marry someone much older than them which I despise. But at the end of the day, they were both consenting adults, it's none of my business and I wish them all the happiness in the world, and since they are still married 12 years later it seems to be going good for them. Second her actual skill as a director. I always found it difficult to blame one or even two people on the failure of a movie or show considering how much of a group project it is. Can we blame Sam for the plot when the film is based on a book that was quite terrible especially when most account I have come across says the film is the superior product? That isn't even going into studio interference of pressure from the producer etc that can also have a drastic effect that you as a director just have to deal with. (The one exception is D&D in regards to Game of Thrones, I will throw them under the bus and put all the blame on them until I die.) With that said I can't comment a lot on her directing since I only ever saw Fifty Shades after hearing Gilbert Godfried (rip) read a bit of the book. Didn't care for it but romance was never my cup of tea. With that said from a direction standpoint I didn't have any issues with it. Finally in regards to the artist affecting the art (This is going to be the longest part cuz I got a lot more skin in this game) it all depends on what the artist did, who is looking at the art, and how good the art itself is and even in what order you're presented with the information, I think if you see the art then hear the controversy you're less likely to judge the art for it, but if you already have a negative opinion of the artist you're going to be extra critical on anything they make. For example, I love a series called Rurouni Kenshin, it really is a great story and I recommend it to a lot of people, but the creator (Nobuhiro Watsuki) is a pedo, thats a pretty big hurdle to get over. Another example is George RR Martin, these past few years he has been getting on my nerves (and not just because I am still waiting on those damn books) but if he was to release the next book in his series I am probably going to pick it up and read it in two days. It doesn't have to be Winds of Winter it could be Fire and Blood PT2 and I will still get it, I am an addict. But would I still be an addict if I wasn't a fan of GRRM, to begin with? Hard to say. By comparison, I have quite easily cut out a lot of TH-camrs after doing by comparisons to GRRM and especially Watsuki's very minimal issues. Most of these times are politically related, a big pet peeve of mine is demonizing opposition especially on very very very complicated topics, using a recent example I don't care if a creator supports Isreal or Palestine, I do however care when they start demonizing the other. I have my own opinions and I think most people who disagree with me are not the sharpest knives in the drawer (Then again who doesn't think that?) but when you start to make your opponents evil rather than just misinformed or ignorant I take great issue with that. However, maybe I am quicker to cut these artists out of my life because their art is very them-focused if that makes sense. When Grrm writes a book it's not like I am enjoying Grrm while TH-camrs it is them who are pulling me in if that makes sense? I hope it does, it makes sense to me so I will leave it at that. Anyway enjoyable video as always, nice to think about things I don't often think about on a day-to-day basis. Stay safe and I hope you have a wonderful day. Or I guess evening/night given what time it currently is for you.
wow I can see how much time and thought you put into this and I really appreciate it! I think the topics you touched on are very important ones and I try my very best to place my video in a neutral position on these topics and not voice my own opinion too much because I think its easier for people to share their thoughts without feeling pursued in one direction! thank you for your comment I hope you have a beautiful day!
You literally made a statement saying no amount of legal adult argument will change my mind, but then proceeded to make an argument stating they were legal adults and in some states they can get legally married at 14. You literally contradicted yourself in the very next sentence. Just because they have been married for a long time doesn’t indicate happiness and you clearly DON’T have a problem with this type of predatory relationship because like everyone else, proceeded to just make the “well he was a legal consenting adult”.
@@noaffiliation-x8w So a few things, I don't bring up the fact that a 14 year old can get married to defend the relationship we see in the video, more so as to point out that there are far more terrible things going on in my own country for me to personally be up in arms about this particular situation. No need to worry about the firepit being a bit to close to your house when your oven has already burst into flames, deal with the oven first then look into the precariously placed firepit. Second I am a firm believer of just because I don't like something does not mean that it should be illegal. Case and point I as a 27 year old man would probably only ever date at the youngest 24, that does not mean I think we should implement a law that you can only be in a relationship with someone who is within three years of your age. Or to get a bit more controversial I don't think it is healthy to consume porn, I think it does a lot of damage to a person and can have negative effects to a society though I hesitate to say that it should be illegal. Another example would be the prohibition in the US, drinking Alcohol in my eyes does very little in benefiting someone and more often than naught harms them even if through your entire life you drink responsibly. Yet when we outlawed Alcohol in the us it resulted in crime becoming far more rampant costing the lives of many and doing very little in stopping people from drinking. It why it only lasted 13 years So even though I might find it overall bad for someone who is 18 to get into a relationship with someone 24 years there senior, just as I think it would be a bad idea for someone who is 30 years old being in a relationship with someone who is 54. Though many will disagree with me, especially in regards to someone in there 30s dating someone much older. At the end of the day though I say lets focus on making it illegal to get married at all before your 18 before we start debating on if 18 itself is to young. You are correct though that just because a relationship has lasted 12 years does not mean it is happy, I just choose to air on the side of optamisim rather then thinking the worst out of people I have never met.
Her portrayal of John Lemmon‘s relationship with his birth mother is directly based on his recounting of the relationship with his birth mother… So, that’s not something that exists just because she’s a creep. life is creepy.
She is a mediocre director, but there is a new moment in the film industry now where people want to end anything that does not represent the "perfect" reality.
The opening shot of Nowhere Boy is a reference to the Beatles movie A Hard Day’s Night. And in real life the relationship between John and his mother unfortunately had sexual aspects so that is why it was in the film. He did an interview once describing how he was sexually attracted to her.
Not trying to defend her! I am just a big Beatles history buff and I think knowing that the movie is based on facts makes it more interesting. Loved this video btw :)
Oh! Just found out Fifty Shades of Grey has a score of 4,2/10 on IMDb. I thought people loved it because it was talked about so much. Never seen the film or read the book, and I don't plan to do either. I haven't seen any of Sam Taylor-Johnson's films, and this video hasn't made me want to try. 😅 Loved your video! Please keep making more!
As someone who read the books, I was excited for the first film!.....then it came out and it's fascinating how a director can ruin a book. Look at what they've done to Lord of the Rings. There's literally a book telling you what to do. Follow it!
As disgusting as their relationship is, they are legal adults and there is nothing any of us can do about it, so what's the point in even discussing it? He's legally allowed to choose who he wants and he's clearly chosen her.
Joan Collins and husband Percy Gibson, 33 yrs age difference Tina Turner and Erwin Bach, 15 yrs age difference Heidi Klum is 16 yrs older than her husband Tom Kaulitz 31 Kris Jenner is 25 years older than her partner, Corey Gamble Cher is 40 yrs older than her current partner, Alexander Edwards
I have memories going to NYC with my family to see Nowhere Boy, even if my 14 year old brain couldn’t pick up on the weird implications with John Lennon’s mother. Fifty Shades I’ll always cherish the memories of my girlfriend and I watching it to make fun of it. But yeah, STJ is pretty creepy for getting with someone old enough to be her son lol but Aaron i feel bad for since he’s in his 30s and still gets hounded over this controversy
Ah thank you so much for sharing! That’s so cool that you went to NYC to watch it I’ve never been it sounds great! Fifty shades i can’t explain it… it’s just funny and a bunch of other things all in one film 😭 Until doing the research for this video I didn’t even realise she directed it.
I don't care about the age gap to be honest. What I find disturbing is that the relationship started too young. If he was 25 and she was 45, they would be both adults... But you're still a kid at 17
Don’t know why I’ve only just seen this now, you just popped up in my recommended. Glad you liked the video I did! Love this video, And I really hope Sam Taylor Johnson doesn’t steal your chickens…
I’m shaking. Wow Thank you so much! honestly Your videos are incredible and always deliver to the highest quality! I can’t believe you actually saw this but I’m so glad you enjoyed. The chickens are safe and sound for now. but I still have nightmares…
My parents have a 13 year old age gap, when they met they were in very similar points in their lives, my mother is also an actress and director and my father is a writer and director, I never in my life thought of their age difference as an issue, they met when my mother was about 23 and my dad 36, my dad never directed her in anything at the beginning of their relationship, now he does do that sometimes, but back then my mother was in her own group and my dad in his. The idea of a 41 year old and an 18 year old together disgusts me, that’s something so different from my parents’ situation. He JUST finished high school, he was being directed BY her, and then he very quickly afterwards already gets married and had a child? You’re settling down at an age at which many others don’t even think about doing so, it’s so weird to me. Anyway that’s my thoughts about the relationship situation😅 thanks for coming to my rant
People are mostly hating on her because she’s a woman and they’re jelaous. Jay-Z and Beyonce are called couple goals when he started dating her at 19- same age as Aaron. And don't get me started on male celebs who dated 14-16 year olds when they were in their 20s and 30s and are still hailed as heroes: Kobe Bryant, Elvis, Brad Pitt, Paul Walker, Jay-Z.
You made a very valid point, I think it is really interesting how genders really affect how people perceive the relationships! Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the topic 😊
He was not only 18, but FRESHLY 18, there's no justification, she says he was the one to seduce her and they never even kisssed before the engagement, it's creepy, he deserves better, the agegap he has with his step kids is less than the one with her. Both of them talk about how the public doesn't know the relationship, but, girl, with that age gap there's no possibe way it started or it's healthy in any way
Why are people still spreading the fake rumors from a twitter user that he was 17, that she knew him when he was 8 and was friends with his family?? It’s proven to be untrue. There’s no need to lie about this.
I have only seen one of her films, Nowhere Boy, which from memory I thought to be rather good. I understand that you don’t really know anything about John Lennon, which is fair enough since he died 20 plus years before you were born, but presumably you have heard of the Beatles? And as a Beatles fan I have to tell you that the depiction of Lennon’s mum is pretty accurate, possibly with a garnishing of artistic licence. But he was raised by his aunt. His mum was more like a sister. I have no desire to see 50 shades. So I must defer to your expertise. As to the director’s relationship with her husband well, so what? Theirs is a relationship that has lasted. He was a consenting adult when they met and it is still going strong. Before she made that film she was a renowned artist. Her transition to film director has been pretty impressive. She’s not a great director but what she has done has been well received. And if she finds herself drawn to troubled relationships well she isn’t the first. Happy ever after doesn’t make for great drama. Maybe one day you’ll be a director yourself. Just don’t cast anyone you fancy in case you’re accused of hypocrisy.
I think the main problem for me is that its a very shallow dissection of character, real or not. A person is so much more than just their romantic relationships. I find putting this much emphasis on an abusive relationship in their life is infantilizing in a fcuked up way. It reduces their character to a situation that many people would prefer not to define them.
Sam Taylor Johnson is nowhere a saint, but as far as i understood from this video, all hatred towards her comes from her relationships with her husband (i don't see any other claims, besides some weird movies but, to be honest, many male directors did much worse). i'm not defending her, but why Leonardo DiCaprio doesn't get this amount of hate as her for dating girls who are twice his age? At least she and Aaron are married, while DiCaprio's just endlessly changing girls. But with Leo we all just joke kindly and say “what can we do, that’s how he is' and continue to watch his movies. Nobody's dragging him through dirt, nobody's boycotting his movies, nobody's calling him 'the most hated actor' because of this. That's a little double-standart-y, no?
You made some very valid points and I do agree some male directors have done much much worse ! It is really interesting the way of how the media treats her compared to leo even though like you said his relationships don’t last long at all! It’s a very interesting subject. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts thank you ☺️
No one else is against Stallone who met his current wife when she was 19 and he was 42, and the criticism of Dicaprio is that he is constantly changing women, not because he has been married to a younger woman for years.
I’m so sorry 🥺 he is very well eating his veggies and stealing my fruit, will have to ask him if he can be in the next video, I know he is very busy so fingers crossed 🤞 ❤️
I feel like some are hating simply for having Aaron but frankly I welcome it because her work does suck. But that Amy Winehouse film was my last straw.
So the whole controversy is about the age gap between her and Aaron Taylor-Johnson and the potential problems of their relationship dynamics, did I get that right? To be perfectly honest, at least from what is shown in the video, she doesn’t seem be so deserving of hate. A potentially problematic dynamic is not necessarily problematic, even her movies seem to be near decent or just rather meh, in contrast of being insultingly bad.
didn’t know she did 50 shades of grey but it makes so much sense somehow
I have to admit. I thought the same when I found out
lol i went to watch 50 shades for the 1st time and stopped like 30 min in when the main guy said that he got into bdsm bc of his mom's friend when he was 15 and dakota johnson's character said, "she seduced you?" it made me laugh bc that's not seduction that predatory behavior
@@rileyswrld9690 Sam grooming Aaron makes way More sense with that part
@rileyswrld9690 that's in the book tho
@@AbbieReeyou’re my best friend Abbie I really like you ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
The Amy Winehouse bioptic really rubs me the wrong way since at this point it's such transparent oscar bait that it's almost insulting to Amy. You really have to ask yourself whether Amy would want the biopic made in the first place
lol Oscar bait she can’t be that stupid. Dialogue in the script is vomit inducing.
That isn’t Oscar bait.
She made a terrible movie, that also want even talk much about what actually happened.
It had barely any promotion.
That shit ain't winning nothing trust lol
There's something about biopics lately that feel fake and disrespectful. At least from Bohemian Rhapsody, Elvis and now this one. Rocketman and The Dirt feel less pandering, messy and Oscar bait than the other modern biopic movies. Sam Taylor's filmography THRIVES on the sketchy biopics lol. Hopefully James Mangold's Bob Dylan biopic is one of the good ones.
If they think it’s even getting a sniff at an Oscar with that dialogue they’re delusional. Another Razzie maybe.
He was 13 years old when she met him and his parents. Sorry that is creepy behavior. They were dating before he was 16
You are absolutely right!! It's disgusting 🤢
Ewwww 🤢🤢🤢
@jgg59 where did you get this info. i couldnt find any sources. every article detailing their relationship says that they met in 2009 before he turned 19.
They weren’t..he was dating Georgia groome from ATAPS but as soon as he turned 18 she pounced which is gross af
@@alikalbeck she was grooming him
I’m sick of people using the same “consenting adults” argument to explain away age gaps and grooming. Just because someone turns 18 doesn’t magically make them of sound enough mind to not be susceptible to predatory behavior.
Also, there shouldn’t be a double standard. DiCaprio hooking up with comparative children is super gross as well and he should be canceled for it.
Exactly!
Exactly! I think you put this so well. I know me personally as an 18year old I didn’t feel any more mature or different than I did at 17. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it!
Weird how that usually only goes one way right? Dicaprio sleeps with actual children (because at 18 you ARE still a kid) but when she does it we should "just be happy for them"
@@AbbieRee If the age of consent was always something like 25 throughout all of human history, how many people do you think would exist today? Do you think you would even exist to make this comment? The human race might have very well gone extinct generations ago if all of the young women who married and had children in their late teens never had those children. Most people alive today wouldn't even exist. Up until recently, most people would graduate from high school, immediately get married, and start families. Had they never done that, there would probably be just a few dozen people left on the planet; if that. You guys create moral standards out of thin air and can't even say where you got them from. They're completely arbitrary and made up.
@@methylphosphatePOET You must be the one kid in the ethics 101 class who disagrees with everyone to try and appear smarter during discussions, and you wonder why no one likes you. A true sigma to the end. 👍🏼
My mother told me once, that there are usually 3 factors that are at play in relationships with large age gaps (and gender is irrelevant). Sex, money, drugs. Idc what anyone says, an 18 year old and a 40- something year old have absolutely NOTHING in common. The mind set is different. The body set is different. EVERYTHING is different. And when you think about it, it really is gross. When he was born, she was in her 20s, already out of high school, probably in her own place, driving a car, dealing with finances ... and he was just born! So gross.
I have NO idea what a 40something old woman would want with an 18 year old boy... no matter how "mature" said boy is.. it's just plain predatory
exactly. It’s gross
>Idc what anyone says, an 18 year old and a 40- something year old have absolutely NOTHING in common.
They can't share similar hobbies? They can't share similar political views? Similar philosophies?
>And when you think about it, it really is gross.
I don't care what you find gross (this is a tired argument), I care if the age gap is causing harm, and I am not convinced Aaron Taylor Johnson is being harmed.
@@admiralfrancis8424 When they met, he was a child. She was a grown ass woman. You won't know that the age gap is causing harm because you're not in the relationship. If a glowing 15 year old starting talking about their wonderful 25 year old lover, would it seem harmful? Probably not. Yet it would still be wrong. She directed a movie he was in which is how they met so she was already in a position of authority over him. The power imbalance was even worse in their situation. No teenager is able to consent to a relationship with someone old enough to be their parent.
@@misspriss2482 First of all, unless she groomed him during his childhood, I don't care. Second of all, if someone in an age gap relationship told you that that there isn't/wasn't any harm being done, would you believe them? Or would you move the goalpost and say they were brainwashed? Third of all, was Aaron 17 or 18 when he filmed with his then future wife? If 18, then unless he was groomed from an earlier age, then I don't care. Meeting someone as a kid an then years later marrying them when they're an adult, even if barely, is not the same thing as grooming them, especially if the relationship was developed during legal age.
Fourth of all, every relationship has a power imbalance, even if one partner is not richer than the other. Anyone of every age is susceptible to predatory manipulation, that's why cults are so common. Finally, as long as someone is 18+, then let them date whoever they want. You can't protect young adults from everything. If you are going to say that 18 year olds are not mature enough to date whomoever they want, then you might as well ban them from voting, considering that the consequences are more serious than any age gap relationship.
i genuinely dont understand how people still argue if she groomed him or not. she did. its not "allegations". its literally exactly what happened. like she did the textbook definition of grooming. if you look up groomer in the dictionary her picture would show up. the only reason its debated is because shes a woman and hes a younger man. i hope aaron gets outta there and finds someone whos not predatory towards him
the textbook definition is: targeted contact of minors with intent of sexual abuse (sexual abuse being unconsential sexual actions towards/with minors)
she didnt contact him, since he auditioned. he was 18 - not a minor. wether she intended to cast an 18 year old in order to sexually abuse him cannot be confirmed/denied.
You could make the case that he wasnt able to consent bc of some sort of power dynamic and him possibly being a very immature 18-year old. But i think while this situation is undoubtably wierd it's far from "textbook definition" grooming.
@@NiklasStrahammer 'targeted contact' doesn't mean groomers have to literally go out and find children for it to count. If a family friend grooms a child sleeping over at their house it's still grooming, whether they planned to have the kid over or not
They didn't meet when they were children, but when they were older@@Chibbykins
@@dayaneoliveira5708 when 'they' were older? You mean when he was still a teenager and she was old enough to be his mother?!
@@Chibbykins he was 18 when they met, a consenting adult and of legal age in uk.
I didnt know this lady existed and didnt know she was in a relationship with Aaron. She’s old enough to be his mom
Actually she was a friend of his mom, she met Aaron when he was a kid, which makes it worse
the age gap between him and her is nearly the same between me and my mum. So concerning
it really is creepy especially the way she directed the mother son relationship in nowhere boy it almost feels like she was projecting😭
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The amount of people in these comments being ok with an 18 year old marrying a 41 year old yall are weird as fuck lol
Their relationship makes me uncomfy. I have to admit.
She also knew him at the ages of 13-14 since she was friends with his mom 🤮
@@AbbieRee Why should we care if the relationship makes you uncomfy? The only thing that matters is if there is harm being done in the relationship.
@admiralfrancis8424 lmao let her liveshe doesn't want any letter from court
@@lunatic5162 "Let her live"? Are you sure you're replying to the right person? Because this sounds like advice AbbieRee should take.
I can say that Sam and Aaron’s relationship was not professional during the filming of Nowhere Boy. There was an article written YEARS back by a journalist who was on set of the film for a while, and he mentioned he would be uncomfortable around Sam and Aaron because they were very flirty and touchy with each other. I recall he wrote that one time on set it started to rain and Sam and Aaron danced in the rain together (I might be getting a few details wrong.) anyway, I think that says a lot. Also I despise Nowhere Boy for cutting out Cynthia Lennon, John’s first wife that he was with during the time period of Nowhere Boy. I have no idea why Sam decided to cut Cynthia out and focus more on some quasi incest relationship between John and his mother.
I think we have an idea why she did that its just gross to think about it
We all know why she did that, because it reflects more with their real-life relationship, she's old enough to be his mum.
I don’t think she is very talented director. Also she defo groomed him
Plainly said, and completely correct 😂
She was a photographer. Idk how she became a director.
A Million Little Pieces is “controversial” due to the fact that the book was marketed as a memoir when it turned out to be mostly fiction. And the writer James Frey got confronted by Oprah about it. Apparently the Publisher agreed to refund certain copies of the book to costumers who bought it thinking it was true. James Frey has continued to be massively successful as a novelist. And the movie came out about 10 years after everyone forgot about the controversy.
Yes! I found that out when researching the film. It went so deep that honestly I didn’t have enough time to cover it in this video. I think it needs a whole video for itself because it’s truly interesting and insane. Thank you for bringing this up I appreciate your time 😊
Wow i had no idea good thing i never read it
@@laneythelameIt's a great book. The writing didn't change.
@@AbbieReeIt was one sentence.
she's is just a average director i think, and yeah her relationship with aaron is just weird, and i think someone's personal life does affect how their art is percieved, in her case the movies are average buttttt the whole grooming thing doesnt exactly help her movies. last thing, sleeping with your way younger actor is one thing, but marrying them is another level, just flip the genders and it turns super weird, not saying this wasn't weird to begin with
Well said! I think it definitely comes down to how well you can separate art from artist, I think because they are so in the public about their relationship it’s harder for people to focus on her work more than her relationship
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it 🥰
@@AbbieRee your welcome, i really like your content, keep going, and when's the next video😅
@@younglingslayer4520 ah that made my day! I'm aiming to get a video out a week ! thank you for the support it means a lot 🥰
@@AbbieRee video idea: "literally me" characters, it would be fun
@@younglingslayer4520 I’m always in need of ideas so this definitely helps thank you so much !!!
I laughed so hard when you said you lived like 30 miles away from them.
😆 ah, when I was researching the video I honestly was so shocked!
In an unfortunate turn of events, I will have to give her credit for the John Lennon/mommy stuff in Nowhere Boy. There’s a quote out there somewhere where Lennon admits he would have slept with his mother if he knew for certain she’d be into it 😭 but it’s still hilarious that it’s her who directed it
Ah! Someone else mentioned that too I didn’t realise. it still doesn’t make it any easier to watch 😆 thank you for your comment!
@@AbbieRee of course! I enjoyed the video. Your delivery is solid
@@BetterThanRingo thank you so so much that means a lot! I really appreciate it ☺️
must’ve missed that quote during my beatles obsession wtf 😭
@@El1societythere’s taped audio it’s so disturbing
Had no idea who she is, but glad to see people criticising that new Amy Winehouse biopic, the endless biopics nowadays are increasingly cynical assembly-made IP trash, and unfortunately still extremely profitable even when pretty mediocre and entirely dependent on the goodwill of the artist's namesake and existence rather than any creativity or goodwill on the part of producers or even directors.
I agree, honestly there has been so many biopics recently and more in the making. I understand the concept of introducing a new generation to these people but I feel like this isn’t always the best way of doing it. Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I appreciate it 😊
If you want to a watch an actually great biopic I recommend Love and Mercy. It was only made because John Cusak had a unique cinematic idea of how to tell Brian Wilson’s story. Not because music biopics do well, or the execs wanted to drum up some modern interest in The Beach Boys. If anything it’s a pretty awful beach boys movie since it only intensely focuses on Brian during two difficult periods of his life. You can tell the film was a passion project, not just Oscar bait. Also, Paul Dano gives another incredible performance, but that’s to be expected at this point. J
Taylor Swift also dated a 16-year-old in her twenties (conor kennedy) right after the death of his mother, when he would've been emotionally vulnerable and susceptible to manipulation. Then she also dated multiple other teens, despite claiming she couldn't consent to a relationship with John Mayer at 19. There shouldn't be double standards for female abusers or male victims. I've been targeted by female abusers, and they can be just as dangerous.
That woman is nasty
He was literally 18 and she was 22 but go off 😂 just subtracted 2 years of your own free will ?! 😂
Also John Mayer was 31 when he dated a 19 year old. I'd say a 22 year old dating an 18 year old is quite different than that. I'm 21 and sometimes I forget I'm not in school anymore. I don't feel any more mature than I was at 18 or 19 just more depressed lol
@@stuffedpotato9826it's still gross don't try to excuse it. She used to go and pick him up from school to go on dates🤢
@@anushkakulkarni112I love how this person debunked the original commenter and your only defense is “it’s still gross!!!!!!” Is 18 and 22 not a reasonable age gap? because you have Leo dating people until they turn 25, and in that aspect people paint the 25 year olds as babies practically- so in that case how can 22 be too old for an 18 year old? you don’t magically become an entirely different person at 18, or at 22. Age gaps can be VERY bad but if we’re bitching at a measly 4 years between two adults then we might as well criminalize every single age gap ever.
Not to mention the controversy already surrounding a million little pieces- the author famously lied. Most of that book never happened. It’s my understanding he was never addicted to drugs and only ever spent a few days in jail. It was a huge controversy because he lied to Oprah about it
Interesting, I’ll have to look up that controversy. I thought the guy exaggerated everything, too much to still be considered a memoir, but was still an addict.
@@lindseystein9676 Oh really? I could be wrong--I thought he had lied about everything or nearly everything. But then again this did happen back in 2003, so it's totally possible that I'm not remembering everything correctly
I’m pretty sure that opening shot of nowhere boy is trying to mirror the opening of the Beatle’s movie Hard Days’ Night in the 60’s. They’re running from screaming girls, trip, get up, and keep running.
People do look at men sideways for dating someone old enough to be their daughter. Women who groom boys should be held to the same regard.
Or do woman deep down knows there’s nothing wrong?
John Lennon in home tapes in the 1970s said he had a feeling towards his mother in some way due to him meeting her for the first time when he was a teenage boy, the scene on the couch is a thing he talked about in those tapes.
That’s genuinely so weird. I don’t understand how meeting ur mom later in ur life is the reason why ur sexually attracted to her. I think he’s just a creep.
@@birthdaycowyeah like i loooove the song beautiful boy but the more i learn about john lennon including how he treated his wife just make me hate him
What he do to his wives?@earthtohannah.
@@alexarias5717 LENNON: It is a diary form of writing. All that 'I used to be cruel to my woman, I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved' was me. I used to be cruel to my woman, and physically... any woman. I was a hitter. I couldn't express myself and I hit. I fought men and I hit women. That is why I am always on about peace, you see. It is the most violent people who go for love and peace. - In an interview from Playboy
@@alexarias5717 he physically abused his wife:(
Sam did have expectations as a director due to her success with Nowhere Boy. But she blew it with Fifty Shades and the Amy Winehouse biopic.
For those who want to see a good story about Winehouse and her career, go see Amy (documentary) from the guy that brought Senna and Diego Maradona.
I think nowhere boy was visually the most stunning like you said the projects she’s decided to do after are so different and haven’t necessarily benefited her.
The Amy documentary is what I always recommend to people!
Thank you so much for your comment ☺️
I do feel like women directors have lofty expectations anymore. You're going to be the next big thing or your chopped liver.
Seems like Patty Johnson's career was thrown to the wolves with Wonder Woman 2.
Kathryn Bigelow has had a very consistent career (Detroit was great! Her movie before that was Zero Dark Thirty, was spectactularly well received, as was the Hurt Locker) but you don't hear her name mentioned.
It's Greta Gerwig, the next big thing, or a male director oddly enough
To the " Nowhere boy" movie, (which I haven't watched) and the relation ship to his mother: In fact, Lennon said in one late interview ( guess in Playboy), that He maybe should have Trier to sleep with his mother. That she has been very open minded, that he could well imagine she would have liked to be asked by him. It is quite gross and disturbing. On the other hand, that was one line in a million interviews, he'd given. He must have had a very ambivalent relationship to his early die mother. But it's hard to say, if the regisseur was even aware of this interview. It's possible she didn't and that it's just her own strange way to write love stories.
Very interesting! I didn’t realise that. I did wonder if it had any truth to it because it was portrayed is such a weird way and I hadn’t seen anything about their relationship being like that. Thanks for giving some context and sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it ☺️
It shows that how broken this world is where people are not recognizing their own brother and sister but falling into temptation because it feels good to feel that way. It is so sad to see or to even hear such things how people can go so far for their lust. This whole world need to get healed.
Aaron could easily pull like Anya Taylor Joy or Sydney Sweeney. It blows my mind he’s wasting his prime years on Sam. Let’s be honest here.
the thing is, he's helpless. grooming victims who don't realise they have been groomed are pathologically devoted to their abusers. not to mention there's children involved
Great video! The opening shot you mentioned for Nowhere Boy is a reference to the Beatles' first movie "A Hard Day's Night", where the four are running away from a horde of fans.
Thank you so much!! Oh that makes a lot more sense now 😆 thank you for your comment I really appreciate it
@@AbbieReeYou’re welcome! I’m glad I stumbled onto this video in my recommended, you make very well researched and insightful content!
@DanteSpenkelink wow that’s made my day thank you so much it really means a lot 🥰
every time i see aaron taylor johnson in that john lennon movie all i can think about is james potter
right? i can't believe james is quicksilver either lol
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Joey King had one job...
what was that?
@@skynumbers000 break up that marriage ?
@@luisrizo8813 oh I see lol, apparently those were just rumours
I know ur joking but how is that her job… she should be in the club rn she’s young she has her own problems to worry abt
@@birthdaycowshe’s also married hahah
I don't know. It's weird that men seem to get a pass on this, with plenty of directors having relationships with their MUCH younger film stars, including more than one case of those actresses being under legal adult age. And most of the time, those directors don't face much backlash. And those relationships don't tend to end in (seemingly) successful marriages. But we have this woman and her adult (barely at the time, admittedly) star, and suddenly the sky is falling. Is that a big age gap? Yeah. So was the gap between Harrison Ford and Calista Flockhart, but we don't talk about that 15 years later. Is an 18 or 19 year old mature enough for that kind of relationship? I don't know. I wasn't. But I don't know these people. Hell, I wasn't really mature enough for a good, adult relationship until I was in my 40s.
I keep thinking about how Roger Moore quit playing James Bond in part because they were pairing him up with women who were his granddaughter's age, and he didn't feel comfortable with it. But the producers did. The public did. Those movies still drew numbers. Also, thinking about it, if there's an age gap where the man is substantially older than the woman, it's just something that happens in the film and isn't really talked about, where as if there's an age gap where the woman is older than the man, that relationship is typically what the film is about. That seems seems weird.
Wow ! I really have nothing to add to this. You made some very valid points and ones that are often brushed over in the media, I do think it’s interesting how if the tables were turned and it was an older man and younger woman it would be treated differently. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts on this I really appreciate it 😊
Most examples you can find of Older Male directors and younger Female Actresses are mostly from before the 2000s.
Yes it happened in the past. It was wrong. And recently we have as a society finally come to a point where we can call it out.
Look and Leo Dicaprio getting constantly shit on for dating women under 25.
When Darren Aronofsky was a in a relationship with Jennifer Lawrence while simultaneously casting her in his movie Mother! he rightfully got called out.
To finally come this far where we can call out a wrong thing for bieng wrong but then demanding that we now give women in Power a pass for doing the same thing because Powerful Men in the past got away with it just seems like taking a step back.
@@kingkiller5325who’s giving women in power a pass?? I’ve seen women constantly condemn this relationship. It’s men I’ve seen who’ve been silent about it
@@chidiogoikeh4550 This comment that I replied to is literally justifying and normalizing the relationship in question.
Op is giving this female director a pass with the exact argument that Male Directors in the past got a pass.
And he/she is not the only one. Plenty of people(a lot of them women too) do give Women in positions of power a pass for these things with tbe exact same argument that Men in the past did it and nobody complained so people shouldn't complain now when Women do it.
Men have been silent about what? This relationship?
Men have been talking about it for quite a while.
Relationships like these are the main talking point of Manosphere Bros who can use it to propagate their gift about how no one cares about Men's issues.
@@chidiogoikeh4550 There are men who call out women like this. The thing is, women have privileges in these types of issues. I've seen women gives excuses for other women who committed physical or sexual violence against men. Because your speaking as if all women call out other women, which isn't true at all. There are clear double standards that men face, it's such a problem.
I'm so curious how Hollywood actually "works", like, how do people that seem to be pretty much universally disliked keep getting high-profile gigs?
perhaps it is just me, but everytime I see a "BioPic" I find it almost predatory in its twisting and perverting the story of the persons actual life for the sake of cheap drama and sensationalism. I can safely say I am happy I have never seen any of this directors films and likely never will.
I’m not a fan of watching biopics not because I don’t appreciate the artist or the cinematography or actors but just because like you said something deep down about it doesn’t seem right.
In some cases when the artist themselves has helped with the production and is on board like rocket man with Elton it doesn’t seem as bad but even then it does seem slightly weird.
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on this I really appreciate it ! ☺️
IMO there's nothing wrong with large age gaps in relationships between two consenting adults. But still, dating a teenager while being in your 40s is just nasty.
Yes exactly, once both are consenting adults then it's up to both to have whatever experiences they choose. Large age gaps involving those under 25 are still weird but that's their life. However if a much older person knows someone as a child or teenager, let alone be too close for comfort, and then they immediately come public with their relationship upon it becoming legal? That's gross
No. What do you have in common when you're 40 and your partner is 20 ? Nothing. You want control and sex.
@@mississipi1103 you need to stop babying grown ass people and focus on the real predators
This is amazing, you had me laughing so much. Black to Black was shockingly inaccurate and not needed due to the really well made documentary titled “Amy”. It may of worked if she had picked a specific short period of time in her life before fame, like she did with Nowhere Boy. But I agree with you biopics rarely work when they try to span a whole persons life in 2 hours.
The only reason their "relationship" was allowed is because it's a older woman and younger man. If it was the other way around he would be classed a a pervert and pedo. She groomed this poor guy when he was young and as we know when women give up their Slit the young guy cannot control himself and will go with it. He should be with a woman that's not his "mother".
You say this as if Luc Bensson doesn’t still have a successful, cancellation-free career. Look up his relationship with Maiwenn and who 12 year old Matilda from “Leon: The Professional” was based on. (Hint: what’s the first letter in the name Matilda)
@@mychannel-rt2gn Leonardo Dicaprio anyone?
this just simply isn’t true. ever heard of woody allen ?
You haven't been on the internet much these past few years, have you?
@@mychannel-rt2gn он европеец, там свои приколы
I remember when they were casting for Christian in 50 Shades of Grey, Charlie Hunnam was cast but pulled out, and while they were trying to find another actor, at one point Sam said, "oh my husband can play this" - which, given the explicit nature of the film, was a bit odd!
As a Beatles fan, Nowhere Boy had an incredible amount of detail in it. For instance when The Quarrymen do their first concert, there is a man who takes a picture of them. That picture would later turn out to be the first picture of John Lennon as a musician. Even down to John's comments when he meets Paul for the first time.
yes apparently even the incest stuff was something he admitted in an interview 😬 (wanting to)
For me, I don't think the issue is specifically the age-gap or the "grooming", it's the massively gendered double standard that we have between, say, DiCaprio compared to Taylor-Johnson
Great point you bring up! it is definitely something that is very interesting. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic I really appreciate it ☺️
I hate to say this but if he was 18 when they met it's not technically grooming. It may make you feel uncomfortable but it's not wrong according to our accepted social standards.
But she meet him as a kid, she see him growing up
@@neutraltoxic well one thing is social standards and legality is something else, there’s plenty of thing that are legal that aren’t seen as socially acceptable. A 40 year old dating an 18 year old is certainly legal, but you’d be hard pressed to find someone who thinks it’s right.
@@neutraltoxicgrooming doesn’t always necessarily imply pedophilia. It means there was an unbalanced power dynamic between two people. The person in the position of power (Sam) was Aaron’s boss, which consciously or not is always going to contribute to how a younger, more impressionable, up and coming actor would approach a bid for romance. He was also young as fuuuck and hadn’t even had time to form a sense of identity outside of a relationship before being thrust into the role of husband and stepfather-becoming pretty isolated from his peers. I get the double standard but I think the most worrying part is how easily people in Hollywood (in general) abuse their power.
My dad went to school with her, he was definitely creeped out the first time he read about her being in a relationship with him.
Nicely done analysis, I didn’t know she directed Back to Black. It’s a shame that so many directors are profiting off of real tragedies, like Blonde and Marilyn Monroe. Keep up the great work!
I haven't seen any of her movies, but I must say the editing in this is great. Do you do your own editing or do you outsource?
Wow thank you so much !! It’s edited by me, it’s one of my most favourite things about content creation 😊
@@AbbieRee It used to be my least favorite until I found a decent editing software to work with. Keep up the good work ^_^
@@tjentertainment-u4y thank you so much! Just out of interest what software do you use ?
@@AbbieRee I've recently discovered VideoProc Vlogger. It's free and doesn't leave a nasty watermark if you export a video without paying for the software.
Love finding new channels like yours! great video, love the comedy bit
Wow thank you so so much for the support I really appreciate it !! ☺️
She's a hack at the end of the day. And while her relationship with ATJ has been under scrutiny for some time, it's not nearly as paid attention to or called out like it would be if the roles were reversed. It's really that simple.
she doesn't get noticed because she's not a successful director like greta gerwig. she directed low budget films in the uk, not because of the inverted genres
just came across your page! love it and would love to see more longer videos!
Thank you so much! I’m glad you like the content, I have been planning on making some longer videos ☺️ thank you again for the support !
bro your editing is so good 🥹
Ah thank you so much!!! That means a lot
I expected to see the Taylor-Johnsons running through the background of your last shot stealing your chickens.
Thank you for the video Abbie. What are you thinking of doing for your next video? Again thank you
I’m glad you enjoyed! You’re so welcome, I’ve got a few ideas! Do you have any suggestions ?
@@AbbieRee I do have an idea for a video investigate Rod Serling create a video on Twilight Zone. Make a breakdown on the meaning and philosophy of the Twilight Zone
I don't have the biggest issues with age gaps ESPECIALLY if both parties are very much legal adults, but there are limitations and boxes to tick for said relationships to qualify as a "healthy" one or close enough to it. As long as both parties are very much independent of the other and don't have to rely on the other for anything, both are at least in equal footing in terms of their careers and time period in life, and one isn't in a position of power that is able to dominate the other one. However given the context of this relationship... even without the egregious age gap, it's doomed from the start.
"The most controversial female director" is far from the truth
One who is more?
Probably a rainbow lesbian then huh
@@Mr.Murasakino Leni Riefenstahl lol
@@tublife She did put "in Hollywood" on the title, Leni Riefenstahl would be "most controversial female director period".
@@ivanagustinortiz5237 Yep I agree, I was just responding to the comment re: "the most controversial female director" but while there are other female directors that are controversial, I can't think of any within the Hollywood system🤔
Sorry if this was said already, but is that opening shot in NB supposed to reference the later Beatle Mania, running away from crowds thing we'd see later?
this was so beautifully edited and so wonderfully made ❤
Wow thank you so much that’s made my day !! ☺️
I had no knowledge of any of this. I only stumbled on this video because ATJ was on mythical kitchens last meals and mentioned his wife so I got curious and clicked this video 🤯
And great video btw
I like Nowhere Boy purely cause I'm huge Beatles fan since I was 12 yo, and even knowing that is such an interesting subject to myself, I just don't come back to it cause it just feels so sad, like the ending could be a bit cheerful considering what happened to John Lennon right after the ending of this bleak and sad period of his life, of like amazing achievements as an artist, why does that had to be the whole movie?
I'm looking forward to the Sam Mendes Beatles biopic's though.
And hey Abbie great video, I like how in some parts you're in the garden outside, just for no specific reason, it gave the video a dynamic that contrasts with your low key chill vibe, the editing is great too and agree with u that their relationship took off and still feels weird in many ways to this day maybe.
Keep up the good work!
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Wow where do I start, Thank you so much for the support. I love editing a content creation it’s so fun to think of concepts I’m glad you noticed it means so much to me
I have to admit I don’t know much about The Beatles but lots of people in my family are huge fans of them, with that said I do love some of their songs!
Thank you again for sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it 🥰
I saw "Nowhere Boy", and I really thought she had her thumb on the scale there. John is made to look more handsome, more talented, more intelligent and just better than anyone else in his group. And the relationship with his mother?
Please...
That director barely read a bio, it seems, on Lennon's life.
Can't say I bothered with the others after that...
Love Joseph Fisher! I found both of your channels roughly around the same time, oddly enough haha
She's simply not a good director. Her films lack depth and true direction. She can't create anything original and instead relies on creating exploitive lackluster films.
Wait… Why were you watching Million Little Pieces dubbed in French?
This is one of my fav essays made recently. Loved it
I couldn’t afford to buy in English it was free if I watched it in French 😆
Wow thank you so much I’m so glad you enjoyed it that’s made my day! 🥹
no because the fact that one of his step daughters is 7 years younger than him is actually sick
I've never seen any of these films, so thanks for saving me time. 🍿 🍿
These videos are well made. This channel is gonna get big given enough time.
Wow thank you so much this means a lot I really appreciate it! This has made my day thank you ☺️
Glad to see this channel getting views
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I’ve never seen Nowhere Boy but that opening shot looks like a reference to the opening shot of A Hard Day’s Night where they’re all running from fans.
I'd never heard of her before (or seen any of her films) but your video style and presentation is such a vibe I subbed
Thank you so much for the support it really means a lot! I’m glad you enjoyed, I love making them ☺️
The opening shot in Nowhere Boy is a reference to the opening shot in the Beatles’ first feature film A Hard Day’s Night which shows the band running from a crowd of screaming fans. I’m a Beatles freak so I just had to mention that lol. I always thought that was a cool creative decision and it really sucks to know that one of the better Beatles biopics has such a gross story behind its production. You could make a case for some of the weird incesty mother stuff (maybe) being based off of an audio clip of John talking about laying on the couch with his mother when he was a teenager, but I still think it’s a weird way to interpret their dynamic after reuniting. It becomes more disturbing knowing Sam Taylor-Johnson’s actions while she was shooting those very scenes.
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So again I don't have a dog in this race but I still feel the need to hear my own voice and share my opinion..... or I guess in this case read my own voice? Nvm point is these are my casual thoughts.
First on the controversy of Sam specifically. While the relationship does make me go "Ew" and no amount of legal adult argument will make me change my mind on that, in the States it's sometimes legal for a 14-year-old to marry someone much older than them which I despise. But at the end of the day, they were both consenting adults, it's none of my business and I wish them all the happiness in the world, and since they are still married 12 years later it seems to be going good for them.
Second her actual skill as a director. I always found it difficult to blame one or even two people on the failure of a movie or show considering how much of a group project it is. Can we blame Sam for the plot when the film is based on a book that was quite terrible especially when most account I have come across says the film is the superior product? That isn't even going into studio interference of pressure from the producer etc that can also have a drastic effect that you as a director just have to deal with. (The one exception is D&D in regards to Game of Thrones, I will throw them under the bus and put all the blame on them until I die.)
With that said I can't comment a lot on her directing since I only ever saw Fifty Shades after hearing Gilbert Godfried (rip) read a bit of the book. Didn't care for it but romance was never my cup of tea. With that said from a direction standpoint I didn't have any issues with it.
Finally in regards to the artist affecting the art (This is going to be the longest part cuz I got a lot more skin in this game) it all depends on what the artist did, who is looking at the art, and how good the art itself is and even in what order you're presented with the information, I think if you see the art then hear the controversy you're less likely to judge the art for it, but if you already have a negative opinion of the artist you're going to be extra critical on anything they make.
For example, I love a series called Rurouni Kenshin, it really is a great story and I recommend it to a lot of people, but the creator (Nobuhiro Watsuki) is a pedo, thats a pretty big hurdle to get over. Another example is George RR Martin, these past few years he has been getting on my nerves (and not just because I am still waiting on those damn books) but if he was to release the next book in his series I am probably going to pick it up and read it in two days. It doesn't have to be Winds of Winter it could be Fire and Blood PT2 and I will still get it, I am an addict. But would I still be an addict if I wasn't a fan of GRRM, to begin with? Hard to say.
By comparison, I have quite easily cut out a lot of TH-camrs after doing by comparisons to GRRM and especially Watsuki's very minimal issues. Most of these times are politically related, a big pet peeve of mine is demonizing opposition especially on very very very complicated topics, using a recent example I don't care if a creator supports Isreal or Palestine, I do however care when they start demonizing the other. I have my own opinions and I think most people who disagree with me are not the sharpest knives in the drawer (Then again who doesn't think that?) but when you start to make your opponents evil rather than just misinformed or ignorant I take great issue with that.
However, maybe I am quicker to cut these artists out of my life because their art is very them-focused if that makes sense. When Grrm writes a book it's not like I am enjoying Grrm while TH-camrs it is them who are pulling me in if that makes sense? I hope it does, it makes sense to me so I will leave it at that.
Anyway enjoyable video as always, nice to think about things I don't often think about on a day-to-day basis. Stay safe and I hope you have a wonderful day. Or I guess evening/night given what time it currently is for you.
wow I can see how much time and thought you put into this and I really appreciate it! I think the topics you touched on are very important ones and I try my very best to place my video in a neutral position on these topics and not voice my own opinion too much because I think its easier for people to share their thoughts without feeling pursued in one direction! thank you for your comment I hope you have a beautiful day!
You literally made a statement saying no amount of legal adult argument will change my mind, but then proceeded to make an argument stating they were legal adults and in some states they can get legally married at 14. You literally contradicted yourself in the very next sentence. Just because they have been married for a long time doesn’t indicate happiness and you clearly DON’T have a problem with this type of predatory relationship because like everyone else, proceeded to just make the “well he was a legal consenting adult”.
@@noaffiliation-x8w So a few things, I don't bring up the fact that a 14 year old can get married to defend the relationship we see in the video, more so as to point out that there are far more terrible things going on in my own country for me to personally be up in arms about this particular situation. No need to worry about the firepit being a bit to close to your house when your oven has already burst into flames, deal with the oven first then look into the precariously placed firepit.
Second I am a firm believer of just because I don't like something does not mean that it should be illegal. Case and point I as a 27 year old man would probably only ever date at the youngest 24, that does not mean I think we should implement a law that you can only be in a relationship with someone who is within three years of your age.
Or to get a bit more controversial I don't think it is healthy to consume porn, I think it does a lot of damage to a person and can have negative effects to a society though I hesitate to say that it should be illegal. Another example would be the prohibition in the US, drinking Alcohol in my eyes does very little in benefiting someone and more often than naught harms them even if through your entire life you drink responsibly. Yet when we outlawed Alcohol in the us it resulted in crime becoming far more rampant costing the lives of many and doing very little in stopping people from drinking. It why it only lasted 13 years
So even though I might find it overall bad for someone who is 18 to get into a relationship with someone 24 years there senior, just as I think it would be a bad idea for someone who is 30 years old being in a relationship with someone who is 54. Though many will disagree with me, especially in regards to someone in there 30s dating someone much older. At the end of the day though I say lets focus on making it illegal to get married at all before your 18 before we start debating on if 18 itself is to young.
You are correct though that just because a relationship has lasted 12 years does not mean it is happy, I just choose to air on the side of optamisim rather then thinking the worst out of people I have never met.
Her portrayal of John Lemmon‘s relationship with his birth mother is directly based on his recounting of the relationship with his birth mother… So, that’s not something that exists just because she’s a creep. life is creepy.
She is a mediocre director, but there is a new moment in the film industry now where people want to end anything that does not represent the "perfect" reality.
The opening shot of Nowhere Boy is a reference to the Beatles movie A Hard Day’s Night. And in real life the relationship between John and his mother unfortunately had sexual aspects so that is why it was in the film. He did an interview once describing how he was sexually attracted to her.
Not trying to defend her! I am just a big Beatles history buff and I think knowing that the movie is based on facts makes it more interesting. Loved this video btw :)
Oh! Just found out Fifty Shades of Grey has a score of 4,2/10 on IMDb. I thought people loved it because it was talked about so much. Never seen the film or read the book, and I don't plan to do either.
I haven't seen any of Sam Taylor-Johnson's films, and this video hasn't made me want to try. 😅
Loved your video! Please keep making more!
ah thank you so so much for the support! If you do watch any don't go into it with a happy ending in mind XD
As someone who read the books, I was excited for the first film!.....then it came out and it's fascinating how a director can ruin a book. Look at what they've done to Lord of the Rings. There's literally a book telling you what to do. Follow it!
As disgusting as their relationship is, they are legal adults and there is nothing any of us can do about it, so what's the point in even discussing it? He's legally allowed to choose who he wants and he's clearly chosen her.
Joan Collins and husband Percy Gibson, 33 yrs age difference
Tina Turner and Erwin Bach, 15 yrs age difference
Heidi Klum is 16 yrs older than her husband Tom Kaulitz 31
Kris Jenner is 25 years older than her partner, Corey Gamble
Cher is 40 yrs older than her current partner, Alexander Edwards
Abbie literally touched grass at the end of this video
Touching grass is underrated I must say
@@AbbieRee you’re really pretty to be honest
I have memories going to NYC with my family to see Nowhere Boy, even if my 14 year old brain couldn’t pick up on the weird implications with John Lennon’s mother. Fifty Shades I’ll always cherish the memories of my girlfriend and I watching it to make fun of it. But yeah, STJ is pretty creepy for getting with someone old enough to be her son lol but Aaron i feel bad for since he’s in his 30s and still gets hounded over this controversy
Ah thank you so much for sharing! That’s so cool that you went to NYC to watch it I’ve never been it sounds great! Fifty shades i can’t explain it… it’s just funny and a bunch of other things all in one film 😭
Until doing the research for this video I didn’t even realise she directed it.
Love these videos, keep them coming!!
Ah that really means a lot! Thank you so much for the support. I really appreciate it!
I’m glad your enjoying them 🥰
sam and aaron please dont steal abbies chickens PLEASE
I don’t know you! But I like you. 👍 Your editing is amazing and you just gained a new subscriber
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I don't care about the age gap to be honest. What I find disturbing is that the relationship started too young. If he was 25 and she was 45, they would be both adults... But you're still a kid at 17
Don’t know why I’ve only just seen this now, you just popped up in my recommended. Glad you liked the video I did!
Love this video, And I really hope Sam Taylor Johnson doesn’t steal your chickens…
I’m shaking. Wow Thank you so much!
honestly Your videos are incredible and always deliver to the highest quality!
I can’t believe you actually saw this but I’m so glad you enjoyed. The chickens are safe and sound for now.
but I still have nightmares…
My parents have a 13 year old age gap, when they met they were in very similar points in their lives, my mother is also an actress and director and my father is a writer and director, I never in my life thought of their age difference as an issue, they met when my mother was about 23 and my dad 36, my dad never directed her in anything at the beginning of their relationship, now he does do that sometimes, but back then my mother was in her own group and my dad in his.
The idea of a 41 year old and an 18 year old together disgusts me, that’s something so different from my parents’ situation. He JUST finished high school, he was being directed BY her, and then he very quickly afterwards already gets married and had a child? You’re settling down at an age at which many others don’t even think about doing so, it’s so weird to me.
Anyway that’s my thoughts about the relationship situation😅 thanks for coming to my rant
People are mostly hating on her because she’s a woman and they’re jelaous. Jay-Z and Beyonce are called couple goals when he started dating her at 19- same age as Aaron. And don't get me started on male celebs who dated 14-16 year olds when they were in their 20s and 30s and are still hailed as heroes: Kobe Bryant, Elvis, Brad Pitt, Paul Walker, Jay-Z.
You made a very valid point, I think it is really interesting how genders really affect how people perceive the relationships! Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the topic 😊
Also he cheated on her but they "worked it out"
Idk she doesn't know much else probably so she is stuck? I guess. It's sad
He was not only 18, but FRESHLY 18, there's no justification, she says he was the one to seduce her and they never even kisssed before the engagement, it's creepy, he deserves better, the agegap he has with his step kids is less than the one with her. Both of them talk about how the public doesn't know the relationship, but, girl, with that age gap there's no possibe way it started or it's healthy in any way
I have to say, I don't care about their relationship. I do care that her filmography is ropey as hell.
Ah !!😆 it’s definitely interesting.
Aw she’s so sweet and funny too. Good video 😊
Ah! Thank you so so much! That really means a lot I really appreciate it 🥰
I studied this woman in photogtaphy before realising who she was and now I feel gross anytime I realise she’s in my book😬
Why are people still spreading the fake rumors from a twitter user that he was 17, that she knew him when he was 8 and was friends with his family?? It’s proven to be untrue. There’s no need to lie about this.
17-18 what a difference right? 😑
i don't think it was a fake rumors at all
@@elmin82 yes it was 🤦♀️ they met when he auditioned at 18 and started dating at 19 when the movie wrapped and he pursued her relentlessly
@@manulopez4697 well ,with the law it is
@@minnie3906 yes but i think it's still grooming, he was a teen when he meet her and they started dating
I have only seen one of her films, Nowhere Boy, which from memory I thought to be rather good. I understand that you don’t really know anything about John Lennon, which is fair enough since he died 20 plus years before you were born, but presumably you have heard of the Beatles? And as a Beatles fan I have to tell you that the depiction of Lennon’s mum is pretty accurate, possibly with a garnishing of artistic licence. But he was raised by his aunt. His mum was more like a sister.
I have no desire to see 50 shades. So I must defer to your expertise.
As to the director’s relationship with her husband well, so what? Theirs is a relationship that has lasted. He was a consenting adult when they met and it is still going strong. Before she made that film she was a renowned artist. Her transition to film director has been pretty impressive. She’s not a great director but what she has done has been well received. And if she finds herself drawn to troubled relationships well she isn’t the first. Happy ever after doesn’t make for great drama.
Maybe one day you’ll be a director yourself. Just don’t cast anyone you fancy in case you’re accused of hypocrisy.
I think the main problem for me is that its a very shallow dissection of character, real or not. A person is so much more than just their romantic relationships. I find putting this much emphasis on an abusive relationship in their life is infantilizing in a fcuked up way. It reduces their character to a situation that many people would prefer not to define them.
I laughed out loud when you said you watched Saltburn with your Mom
Sam Taylor Johnson is nowhere a saint, but as far as i understood from this video, all hatred towards her comes from her relationships with her husband (i don't see any other claims, besides some weird movies but, to be honest, many male directors did much worse). i'm not defending her, but why Leonardo DiCaprio doesn't get this amount of hate as her for dating girls who are twice his age? At least she and Aaron are married, while DiCaprio's just endlessly changing girls. But with Leo we all just joke kindly and say “what can we do, that’s how he is' and continue to watch his movies. Nobody's dragging him through dirt, nobody's boycotting his movies, nobody's calling him 'the most hated actor' because of this. That's a little double-standart-y, no?
You made some very valid points and I do agree some male directors have done much much worse ! It is really interesting the way of how the media treats her compared to leo even though like you said his relationships don’t last long at all! It’s a very interesting subject. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts thank you ☺️
Uhm, plenty of people have been against DiCaprio's relationships
No one else is against Stallone who met his current wife when she was 19 and he was 42, and the criticism of Dicaprio is that he is constantly changing women, not because he has been married to a younger woman for years.
7 videos and still no rabbit cam 💔
I’m so sorry 🥺 he is very well eating his veggies and stealing my fruit, will have to ask him if he can be in the next video, I know he is very busy so fingers crossed 🤞 ❤️
1967? Hell nah
Great video, but it’s E.L James not Elle James 😂 I’m not a fan, I just couldn’t help commenting that sorry
AH Thank you so much for the support ! this made me laugh! thank you for correcting me my bad, don't be sorry I appreciate it! I'm glad you enjoyed.
I feel like some are hating simply for having Aaron but frankly I welcome it because her work does suck. But that Amy Winehouse film was my last straw.
Holy shit, I really thought she was his mother
Certainly looks that way 😢
God bless you ❤❤!!
ive never seen any of her films and after watching this i never will lol. great vid tho!!
Thank you so much !!
10:29 had me rolling🤣🤣🤣
5:11 My guilty pleasure watch is the Twilight series 🤦🤦🤦. I loved the books, but the movies were kind of bad
nice video!
Thank you so much!!
So the whole controversy is about the age gap between her and Aaron Taylor-Johnson and the potential problems of their relationship dynamics, did I get that right?
To be perfectly honest, at least from what is shown in the video, she doesn’t seem be so deserving of hate. A potentially problematic dynamic is not necessarily problematic, even her movies seem to be near decent or just rather meh, in contrast of being insultingly bad.
6:50 Girl! Why did you do that to yourself?😂
Really good video.
Thank you so much I’m glad you enjoyed!
Now talk about Stallone, he met his current wife when she was 19, he is 42, but no one is forcing Flávia to be the victim