This method was great - I went to the timber yard straight after watching this, and for once didn't embarrass myself by taking forever to lash my wood to the roof. I was amazed by how quickly it went on - "is that it?" Thanks a lot.
Ok - I use hookless ratchet straps for my kayaks. I wanted to give some of my suggestions. They are free if you care. 1 - if the item you have on the vehicle is close to the weight limit of the rails, I run my straps through the vehicle (make sure the doors are open!). This takes all wind/weight pressure off your roof rack, and relegates it to being simply a platform to keep the item off the vehicle's roof. 2nd - I purposely twist the front strap - this cuts down the wind noise/howling/buzzing that is mind numbing as you travel. Twisting the strap has no loss in strength, so I'm not sure why it is importantly noted at 2:08 (in the video) to make sure they are flat (no twists).
@WhatMeeWorry ok - thanks for your suggestions - I'm going to explain each one in detail - hope it helps you and other viewers - this is safety information. 1a. "running straps through the car": imagine your racks have a weight limit of 100kg and your load is close to the weight limit - lets say 99kg. Now lets say you crank down on the straps providing say, a mere 10kg of downward holding pressure (an extremely modest estimate and probably only a couple of clicks), now your load totals 109kg which exceeds the limit and we all know how that's going to end. If you're *close to the weight limit of your rails* this is precisely the time when you *should not run your straps through the vehicle*. In fact - you should never run straps through the vehicle. Attaching your straps to the rack itself does not place additional downward load/weight onto the rack system other than the load itself. Running straps through the vehicle pulls down on the load AND the racks and ADDS to the weight of the load. Be careful, not advised. There are additional disadvantages to having your strap being attached to a point that is wider than your load too. The less acute the angle the less downward force can be applied. And the load is free to move side to side. 1b. If you're so close to the weight limit of the rails that you're worried about the wind blowing the whole thing off - well, if you have not exceeded the limit - this will not happen. The thing with a limit is that the terrible disaster that happens when you exceed it *does not* happen *unless* you exceed it. IF you are worried that you are exceeding the limit then I'd say you're doing it wrong and you need to buy a system with a higher weight capacity. 2. "twisted straps": ok - I agree one intentional twist to eliminate that annoying hum and vibrations ain't gonna hurt much. However - this is for everyone - don't let that twist fall on a contact point with the load, and don't let that twist become a fold. Folded straps are under significantly higher tension due to the material being forced around a small radius along the line of the fold. This leads to wear, abrasion, damage and eventual (and premature) failure. Also, even twists without folds result in stress concentrations, in a twisted strap, the load is not evenly distributed across the entire width of the strap. My comment was directed at those folks who don't give a crap about twists and folds and straps that are in poor condition. Straps that are not looked after can and do break - I've seen it happen first hand. Sun and rain and storing them under piles of junk in the back of your car don't help either. All of these can lead to potential catastrophe. Hey whatmee - these tips are free for your safety and the safety of the guy that's behind you on the road. Hope I've explained some of these physics concepts well enough. cheers
Nice one Rob, I actually used the same thing in my dining table glueup while attaching breadboard ends! Works great as clamps as long as you use a non marring sacrificial thingy in between the straps and the work piece.
Good tips Suj! I've used the hook straps as clamps and it make a mess of the work piece if you're not careful. Very hard to get those bloody hooks out of the wAY!
Great tips Rob. I use the "endless" cam straps to secure my canoe to the roof of the wagon. While I am not able to get them as tight as ratchet straps, I am certain that I will never overtighten them and snap my fiberglass canoe in half 😂😂😂 I think I will order up a set of these for when I am hauling wood because your mention of the hooks is exactly why I hate using them!
Yep, with cam straps it always just felt like the equivalent of wearing loose jeans without a belt for me 🤣But for wood though, these are well worth the investment. I've barely used the hook version in the two years since I got the endless ones (can't figure out why they are called 'endless' for the life of me though)
To be honest, I've never seen these. I have always used the double hook type. I'll be heading down to my local Bunnings to get a couple of these. Cheers and thanks for the video. 👍👍👍
When I made my other video about hook straps was when I found out about these from that guy Sam I mentioned at the end - he was like "'I've got ratchet straps that have no hooks.." And I was like ... "no you don't, wtf are you smoking" 🤣 They are Awesome though - so simple and quick!
Domo arigato mister Nakamoto, aka Sumo san. There are a lot of great innovations out there. Just yesterday I bought one of those clever countersink thingys like you have. Cost me 25 bucks, hope it works better than a block of wood with a hole in it 🤣🤣👍🏻
You've seen these in action - I can get all strapped up and gone while all the tradies are still trying to find the end with the ratchet in the back of their messy vans lol.
Cheers Kurt mate 🤙. these ones are made by Aerofast, made in NZ, and really good quality compared to others I've had. You can get them at Mitre10. Ahhh sunny Auckland, she's a beauty alright! ☀️
Hey Wei, nah not necessary, just rotate your load by 90° and strap directly to the rails. Then just don't drive down any narrow streets I guess. Good luck dude. 🤙
Yeah I don't get why they are called "endless"when they have a more definitive end than the hook ones. But hey, it's a mixed up world 🌎! I can't claim that sock one, it came from a comment on the other vid. Goodun though.
good and practical way of using racht strap
This method was great - I went to the timber yard straight after watching this, and for once didn't embarrass myself by taking forever to lash my wood to the roof. I was amazed by how quickly it went on - "is that it?" Thanks a lot.
Good to hear - I used to struggle with it too but somehow I stumbled across this method at some point and it "just works".
Ok - I use hookless ratchet straps for my kayaks. I wanted to give some of my suggestions. They are free if you care. 1 - if the item you have on the vehicle is close to the weight limit of the rails, I run my straps through the vehicle (make sure the doors are open!). This takes all wind/weight pressure off your roof rack, and relegates it to being simply a platform to keep the item off the vehicle's roof. 2nd - I purposely twist the front strap - this cuts down the wind noise/howling/buzzing that is mind numbing as you travel. Twisting the strap has no loss in strength, so I'm not sure why it is importantly noted at 2:08 (in the video) to make sure they are flat (no twists).
@WhatMeeWorry ok - thanks for your suggestions - I'm going to explain each one in detail - hope it helps you and other viewers - this is safety information.
1a. "running straps through the car": imagine your racks have a weight limit of 100kg and your load is close to the weight limit - lets say 99kg. Now lets say you crank down on the straps providing say, a mere 10kg of downward holding pressure (an extremely modest estimate and probably only a couple of clicks), now your load totals 109kg which exceeds the limit and we all know how that's going to end.
If you're *close to the weight limit of your rails* this is precisely the time when you *should not run your straps through the vehicle*. In fact - you should never run straps through the vehicle.
Attaching your straps to the rack itself does not place additional downward load/weight onto the rack system other than the load itself. Running straps through the vehicle pulls down on the load AND the racks and ADDS to the weight of the load. Be careful, not advised.
There are additional disadvantages to having your strap being attached to a point that is wider than your load too. The less acute the angle the less downward force can be applied. And the load is free to move side to side.
1b. If you're so close to the weight limit of the rails that you're worried about the wind blowing the whole thing off - well, if you have not exceeded the limit - this will not happen. The thing with a limit is that the terrible disaster that happens when you exceed it *does not* happen *unless* you exceed it. IF you are worried that you are exceeding the limit then I'd say you're doing it wrong and you need to buy a system with a higher weight capacity.
2. "twisted straps": ok - I agree one intentional twist to eliminate that annoying hum and vibrations ain't gonna hurt much. However - this is for everyone - don't let that twist fall on a contact point with the load, and don't let that twist become a fold. Folded straps are under significantly higher tension due to the material being forced around a small radius along the line of the fold. This leads to wear, abrasion, damage and eventual (and premature) failure. Also, even twists without folds result in stress concentrations, in a twisted strap, the load is not evenly distributed across the entire width of the strap.
My comment was directed at those folks who don't give a crap about twists and folds and straps that are in poor condition. Straps that are not looked after can and do break - I've seen it happen first hand. Sun and rain and storing them under piles of junk in the back of your car don't help either. All of these can lead to potential catastrophe.
Hey whatmee - these tips are free for your safety and the safety of the guy that's behind you on the road. Hope I've explained some of these physics concepts well enough. cheers
Very nice. Not seen ones without the hooks before.
They're really neat, also, you'll see them everywhere now 😉
Hello m, friend, I use Hookless Ratchet Straps sometimes as well. Thank you for this detailed and useful information. See you. Big greetings.
Oh that's good to hear, I think they're much better! Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
@@TakamiWoodshop 👏👏👏see you
Nice one Rob, I actually used the same thing in my dining table glueup while attaching breadboard ends! Works great as clamps as long as you use a non marring sacrificial thingy in between the straps and the work piece.
Good tips Suj! I've used the hook straps as clamps and it make a mess of the work piece if you're not careful. Very hard to get those bloody hooks out of the wAY!
Great tips Rob. I use the "endless" cam straps to secure my canoe to the roof of the wagon. While I am not able to get them as tight as ratchet straps, I am certain that I will never overtighten them and snap my fiberglass canoe in half 😂😂😂 I think I will order up a set of these for when I am hauling wood because your mention of the hooks is exactly why I hate using them!
Yep, with cam straps it always just felt like the equivalent of wearing loose jeans without a belt for me 🤣But for wood though, these are well worth the investment. I've barely used the hook version in the two years since I got the endless ones (can't figure out why they are called 'endless' for the life of me though)
@@TakamiWoodshop some things are not meant to be understood
Hi Rob, I've just discovered your channel, you do some awesome stuff. Cheers from Denmark.
Hey Denmark!👋 Thanks man! Cheers from NZ. 🇳🇿 I'll check out your channel later
Good video mate, can’t say I’ve seen them but will look out for them now 👌👌👌👍👍👍🇦🇺
Awesome! I find them to be about 90% less hassle than hooks!
To be honest, I've never seen these. I have always used the double hook type. I'll be heading down to my local Bunnings to get a couple of these. Cheers and thanks for the video. 👍👍👍
When I made my other video about hook straps was when I found out about these from that guy Sam I mentioned at the end - he was like "'I've got ratchet straps that have no hooks.." And I was like ... "no you don't, wtf are you smoking" 🤣
They are Awesome though - so simple and quick!
@@TakamiWoodshop
He obviously smoked the hooks!😳
😆😆 bwahahaha 😆😆
@Built By Chris
They definitely are a game changer!👍🏽
Guinea, you started doing very good work, congratulations, good luck to you master😊😊😊:)))))
Thank you very much! 🤙
Great tip clackers ( sorry Knackers already used 😁🤠👍), so many innovative things out there Rob 🍻👍
Domo arigato mister Nakamoto, aka Sumo san. There are a lot of great innovations out there. Just yesterday I bought one of those clever countersink thingys like you have. Cost me 25 bucks, hope it works better than a block of wood with a hole in it 🤣🤣👍🏻
Perfect ❣️
Nicely ... tied up in a bow !
You've seen these in action - I can get all strapped up and gone while all the tradies are still trying to find the end with the ratchet in the back of their messy vans lol.
That was strapping. I was tied to the screen. You wrapped that up nicely. Umm... got be another awful line somewhere...
Aww that's awesome dude, cos you could've thought it was rat-chit 🤣
@@TakamiWoodshop How did I miss that obvious one. I have only just woken up.
Nooice!
Rob mate! u rock, is there a brand you recommend? cheers from Sunny & beautiful Auckland 😂
Cheers Kurt mate 🤙.
these ones are made by Aerofast, made in NZ, and really good quality compared to others I've had. You can get them at Mitre10.
Ahhh sunny Auckland, she's a beauty alright! ☀️
@@TakamiWoodshop Awesome Rob love your channel! cheers
@@TakamiWoodshop off to mitre 10, awesome that they made in NZ too cheers
Thanks mate, good to hear 🤛👍
Is a cross bar on the roof necessary, i don't have the cross bar on my 328xi
Hey Wei, nah not necessary, just rotate your load by 90° and strap directly to the rails. Then just don't drive down any narrow streets I guess. Good luck dude. 🤙
But are they 'endless'? I'm sure you have to put the end into the ratchet? 😂 The old sock storage is the best advice ever! 😂😂
Yeah I don't get why they are called "endless"when they have a more definitive end than the hook ones. But hey, it's a mixed up world 🌎! I can't claim that sock one, it came from a comment on the other vid. Goodun though.
Fairly sure that "car" is a van 😂
I knew this was going to happen 😏
@@TakamiWoodshop 🤭
p.s. It's "vehicle" to you wise guy.
@@TakamiWoodshop 😂😂😂