I don't see how one can compare the Switch to the Steam Deck without dedicating time to discuss the "Nintendo Tax". The Switch has the highest costs to build a gaming library, while the Steam Deck has the cheapest gaming library costs.
Nintendo fans pay full price for games and extra for online just to play old ROMs with emulation that's decent at best...but have the nerve to bring up price as an argument lol
And lets not forget nintendo making a lot of mediocre shit lately with non mainline titels, poor performance on a lot of first party games, 1 added function to their lackluster homescreen with these folders? Horrible nintendo online and a lot of other stuff that is anti consumer. Steam is the opposite what Nintendo is doing, more freedom is what people are after nintendo got more and more lazy and greedy
I’m ashamed to say I have a fat steam library and two Nintendo switches with a fat library I just have a problem with buying games at this point tbh my steam deck is coming soon and I already know I won’t be playing my switch much
The key to Steam Deck's continued success, is the support. Valve are literally re-writing the rule book for hardware AND software support simultaneously, which is unprecedented. You absolutely would not get this with Nintendo........ever & that's why my money is with Valve right now. Sony & Microsoft do support but not to the unbelievable levels Valve have delivered in over recent months.
They are indeed re-writing the rulebook hardware and software support and they are doing so for pc-gaming, this actually makes it a potential Windows-killer.
The worst part is all the other manufacturers COULD do this, but they don't, and I don't know why they don't, probably because they don't have to since no one else does. Maybe Valve will end up forcing their hands in the future.
For me, it's very simple. The steam deck offers the ability to play PC exclusives in a console-like ecosystem with a handheld form factor. I can pick it up off my table and play a bunch of PC only games without having to do any of the upkeep my laptop asks of me, at less than half the price of a new laptop.
After my first week with the console I've played through two GBA games, one Gamecube game, one PS1 game and a Switch game and now I'm starting another playthrough of Skyrim on my Deck. About halfway through that list of games I found myself completely in love with this console. It's basically everything I've ever wanted in a handheld and my backlog is now essentially bottomless
It’s really easy to compare the Nintendo Switch to the Steam Deck but now that I’ve had my hands on the Deck, they feel like completely different devices despite both technically being handheld gaming devices. I knew that going into it but actually experiencing it, I finally truly understand just how different these devices really are
I've had my deck for about 3 weeks now. After I put order in, I wasn't sure I would actually buy it, because I don't need one... but I got the notification that I was able to buy mine, and I decided to do it, mostly because they are so rare. Man am I glad I picked it up! I have used it way more than I expected! It's not only great to play games on, but just tinkering and seeing what you can get it to do! I really think devices like the deck are the future. I think it will be the death of traditional consoles. Only time will tell, but if you are thinking about it, put in your reservation now! You won't regret it!
I was in the exact same situation as you. I nearly did not purchase it when my notification came up. Did it anyway and now I play more games than before.
While steam deck sure is amazing product, doesnt mean that traditional consoles will die in the future.. Console still has its own community and dedicated players
Yeah. I got mine a couple weeks ago, when I wasn’t. sure I was going to get it-I hardly ever play my Switch in portable mode. But I’ve been playing more PC games than I have in a long time. I really like my Steam Deck. It’s driven sales for me, as well. I’ve gotten more games because I want to try them on the Steam Deck. If it’s a loss leader, then it’s working in my case.
We steam deckers are a big friendly family, and I am very proud to be part of it. Thank you for making this vids from the beginning, and you are 100% right: This device grow´s - not only on us, but with time. In sum: the best 420 Euros, I ever spent on gaming hardware, since a decade. I absolute adore my Steam Deck and, having the device now for 2 months, still sucking up every second of content from TH-camrs like you!
After read your coment, i think you are an example to help me on my question. So, i have a low end pc, and i am fine but not really fine with it you know, i have games that i like to play and my pc run them and im happy with that, but i want to play some more recent games. I will work this summer, and if i have 600 euros, i could buy a nintendo switch lite in the case, its cheap and i could spend the rest of the money on games or whatever, and i really like the games and most of them are nintendo exclusive, and the lite in the case is very portable. Or i could buy a steam deck, the 256gb version because a memory card its expansive, and in your case, the 64gb worths to you? But ok, if i buy it, i spend all my money, but i have a "high spec pc" and portable at the same time, and i allready have steam games buyed, and, theres no pc that runs the games like steam deck under 1000 euros, its a great deal. I dont know really, what do you think, and thank you for your attencion!
@@ratoeira8477 Hey friend. First of all: The Steam Deck is no state of the art gaming PC, where you can play actual and upcoming triple A titles in all of their glory. For example, I have an I7 4790K, with a GTX 1080 (no Ti, the old one) and 16GB of RAM. - Which is quite old hardware in terms of actual triple A stuff. And the Steam Deck, IMO, is quite on the same level with my PC, which means, I can play the same games with almost the same performance on the Deck and on my gaming PC (with the difference, that the Steam Deck has just 800p - which is looking fantastic on the small screen). If you would ask me, if I would invest more money in my stationary PC (as a long term PC gamer), I would deny this question. Maybe the Steam Deck II somewhere in the future :) - Related to the Switch - I already do have one, the V2 model, with the better battery, but no OLED: I love it, and have a ton of games on it, especially some "oldies", which had been played by the younger Alf - for example Turok, Blade Runner, Star Wars Episode One Racer, just to name a few. (Mostly people say, you have to play first party games, Mario and similar - but on this side, I just have the Mario Kart game, nothing else in this direction). BUT: If I have to decide today (with all, what I know about the devices), between a Switch OLED (fantastic screen), a new gaming PC (600 Euros budget is quite small, I think), or a Steam Deck, I would of course decide 100% sure for the Steam Deck. I have the 64GB model, but buy MicroSD cards, when needed, where I am not only store the games, but in some situations also the compatdata and shadercache files on it (and relink it to the main storage, which works like a charm, and save a ton of space, when you have a big collection of games - there are helpful videos on youtube or explanations on reddit), and put it in a "credit card" case, with velcro strips into the Steam Deck bag. My advice: Buy either the 64GB or maybe the 256GB version of the Deck, plus a 400GB MicroSD card (no need for the A2 cards, the A1 are good enough), and buy games while they are on sale many times a year in the Steam Shop. In the end, you can dock the Steam Deck with every good USB-C Dock to your TV or monitor and play your games on it. Some less demanding games maybe with 1080p or 4K/30fps together with friends. You can connect every USB controller, Bluetooth device or other accessory to the Deck. Linux is an open platform, and we can await so many nice things to do in the future with it. Without MS spying crap or Nintendont, needing years just for to implement Bluetooth support for earbuds on the Switch (and of course UI changes, where we can put games together in folders... OMG, wow!!!). Sorry for the long explanation, I hope, I could help you in your decision.
@@ratoeira8477 One little addition: I had the Switch lite, but changed quite fast to the bigger model, - the screen and battery time is just better. And if you have problems with the joystick drift, you have to send the whole console to Nintendo for repair (not only the Joycon, which you would do with the bigger model).
Man indie games are killing it right now and yea, Gloomwood looks amazing. I knew it would be perfect for me, but man, the more I use it the more I love it too. I spent 2 weeks tinkering with dual boot and setting up emulators. Now i've been playing games and it just gets more fun. Alternate button layouts, remapping the touchpads to keys, its incredible. After about 2-3 weeks I've gotten so much better with the touchpads. It really does become quite natural and really enjoyable.
@@FanTheDeck I don't have mine yet but I use the left trackpad in place of the d-pad and the right one in place of joystick, it feels more intuitive this way.
I think it’s not the matter of the switch and the deck not co-existing with each other. I believe that the sentiment of the deck being called the switch killer has more to do with the idea that most companies are trying to compete on the one thing that is really important for all of us, which is our time. That’s why we see all these companies, that originally had nothing to do with gaming, encroaching themselves in the gaming space. Nothing bad about it but that’s the current trend of the market right now. And now we see a gaming giant (Steam) release their new handheld console (that looks quite similar to the switch) and it’s no surprise that people will perceive it that way. Steam/Nintendo/Aya/Ayn will succeed in making you ask, “which console should I bring to the toilet and play for an hour?”
Comparing Steam Deck to the Nintendo Switch always strikes me as odd. Sure they have kinda similar form factors, but one is a PC and the other is a games console. One is an open platform with wide ranging applications and the other is a walled garden.
I agree but a large portion of people don't understand that or their use case doesn't permit for this view. lots of people essentially think of them as being "pretty much the same thing". kind of like the " turn off your Nintendo" when they have a PlayStation.
Switch and Deck are both sold as consoles. Their primary use cases are the same. The concept of the Steam Deck being a PC or having an open platform requires the user to explore far outside the boundaries of the Steam Decks primary use case. So the two devices are prime for direct head to head comparisons.
@@cookbookforcannibals Desktop mode is essentially hidden at the bottom of the power menu, which itself is at the bottom of the main menu. It's not as obscured as jailbreaking or rooting, but it's not a highlighted feature. If all you are doing is buying games off Steam and playing, Desktop mode isn't required.
I don't think it's odd at all. Both have the goal of being a handheld console, and they don't *kinda* have the same form factor, they outright do. Sure, a big reason why people got a Switch is for Nintendo games, but the portability is a big reason why it was so appealing. I don't think Nintendo is immune from comparisons just because it has a different business model and more appealing exclusives.
I totally agree that the device gets even better the more you explore capabilities. For example I wasn't sure whether I would take the Deck with me to university before I got it. Now I'm already replacing my laptop with it because it is lighter than my laptop, I can take a bluetooth keyboard with me in case I need it and the desktop is functional enough to do everything I need to do. But the upside in taking my Deck with me instead of my laptop is that I can actually game on it in the bus or in breaks between lectures. Another thing I noticed later on. You can even use the Steam Deck as conference microphone because Valve implemented an automatic muting if the internal speakers get used (the intention was probably to play through Steam without headset). This is really versatile because you need one piece of hardware less in your pocket for such cases. One additional thing I have thought yesterday is the ability to have internet access on the go. You could actually plug a WWAN card adapter via USB to the Deck and utilize a SIM card. The only required part for this is a working driver on Linux, I assume. But with the development improvements on the side of Linux phones and tablets, I'm sure that could be or become possible. Depending on the possibility to run Android apps via ARM compatibility or emulation, you could even replace your phone with the Deck. I mean the microphones are pretty good, idle and standby power draw is okay... technically there's no real reason this wouldn't be possible. Also a working SIM card with the Deck would allow to play multiplayer PC games like many MMOs on the go which is pretty crazy if you think about it. I'm definitely looking forward to the options in this field.
I have a good friend who swears it isn't successful. He swears no one in the PC Master Race even discusses it. He doesn't see the purpose as he sits at his pc for work, then pleasure for his entire day. But still he pre ordered one lol.
I doubt it. Who is the market for this? Hardcore pc gamers will stick to pc. Casual players will stick to Nintendo. So this is only for pc players who also want to play in handheld mode.
Watching this while playing with my Switch is kinda ironic, but I'll have to settle with Steam Deck alternatives since it's not yet available outside of Western nations atm.
I would argue its barely available in the Western Nations lol. I hope its way more available soon to way more people and regions, thats what will really make it a success. I also hope the alternatives stoke innovation, we need it in general lol.
I'm so anxious to see two things: - These low priced handhelds coming from AYA/Ayn - and seeing them potentially collaborate with Valve for SteamOS on other handhelds
@@thegreatmrp that's true, but Valve is focused on their Western market demands that other tech companies just have to gun for the $650 experience for their portable pc for non-Western markets to pay attention to, especially since Ayn & AYA are doing good.
Haha, I like how you mention that at first people wanna play games like Elden Ring and God of War. My very first thought of the Steam Deck went to Undertale.
It's great to see Deck continue rolling forward with compelling aspects but, really, if Deck *did* compete with Switch, then it still wouldn't be so bad to see Nintendo finally get on their feet and punch back. It will (I hope at least) be like Epic making their store, and then all of a sudden Steam got so much better as a whole with merely one decent competitor.
I would say there’s still a specific overlap in customer base of the steam deck and Nintendo switch in which they both are definitely competing. Of course that’s not for all customers but some people who just want a mobile gaming device and don’t care too much about Nintendo exclusives might go for the Deck instead.
Look, im 36y/o and been building my own gamepc's since I was 15, have +220games on Steam and +120 on EpicGames, have a Valve index, a fanatec racing wheel with race-seat/basshakers/windsim/etc..., I have build my own arcade with +10.000 games on it, have a modern (Sinden) lightgun for that arcade and many more pc-gaming crap and (oldschool) consoles of many sorts (gameboys, Pi-boy, switch, anbernic...) so there is nothing new for me to see or explore in the pc gaming market not a single thing but every time I hold my SteamDeck in my hands and start up a game it makes me think: "wow, this is just crazy and amazing to have this device in my hands, just wow" every single time my friend, every single time :) SteamDeck is a beast and is so much more then I could ever hoped for in a device like that and people who havent used one can't really understand how genius the SteamDeck and SteamOS is. My hat is off to valve for making this (first gen) masterpiece.
@@IronBalls007 I'm not saying it's anything but amazing. I had to pay for scalper prices for mine because Valve don't sell their hardware in my region (it didn't arrive yet). I'm just saying that because of it people are discovering pc gaming. Like the point in the video about PS3/360 era games and etc.
Got one and love it. Now I want a more powerful one with better battery life and a smaller form. I can't wait for Steam Deck 2. In my opinion it has made me appreciate Linux and Proton more as a everyday computing platform that I'm contemplating going Linux on my desktop PC's and laptops. I can't even install Windows 11 on my PC's and laptops without upgrading and that's not going to happen while my current computer's are still useable and its going to cost a fortune that I don't want to spend right now.
Honestly I’m at the point now with mine where I’m questioning whether I’ll ever upgrade my (only year old high end) desktop Pc. The only things I even turn it on for now is VR simulation games like iRacing and DCS world, and even that isn’t that often. If Next Gen deck (in a few years) ends up supporting external GPU units then I likely will go that route and not even bother with a full desktop in the future.
Your expectations are unrealistic; If they make it more powerful, it will reduce battery life, if it was smaller, there is less space for a battery so once again reduced batter life only now the thermals will begin to be a problem. At the current tech level of batteries, more battery life means a bigger battery so no small form factor.
After playing with the Steam Deck for a month and a half I have to said I love the Steam Deck. But I haven't stop usimg my OLED like I thought I would. The Steam Deck feels very heavy on my hands and it is impossible for me to play for a long period of time. Which is not a real complain because at the same time the battery drains very quickly. By the time I have to take a break it is also time to charge it. So I go back and forth between Deck and Switch. Also for some games on the Deck I had to go around them and make them work for me. Either changing performance, setting or controller setups. It is not as easy as I turn it on and go like the Switch.
How did you get the WaveBird to work? That uses Radio Frequencies not Bluetooth. And it has its own wireless dongle that plugs into the controller slot
Y’know while I’m here I’m going to talk about something, Game Devs listen to my words! If you put your game out ON CONSOLE which mean it has controller support, it can run on steam deck too if it has a Steam PC counterpart, so if you posted your game on the XBOX store run the same button mapping for the steam deck and boom Steam Deck ready game on steam.
More power to you for buying Nintendo devices solely for their exclusives, but I don't think that's the case for casual audiences. I mean if people just bought Nintendo consoles for their games then the WiiU wouldn't have flopped, right? I think many people get drawn into the gimmicks and excellent marketing - like the Wii with its motion controls or the Switch with its "Switching" capabilities. I also think many "gamers" bought the Switch solely to play their console-level games on the go. I mean there's a reason Nintendo decided to show Skyrim in their initial ads before Bethesda had even agreed to release it for the system. So while I understand where people are coming from with "Switch vs Deck is silly", I respectfully disagree. I feel that for many of us the Steam Deck does exactly what we initially bought the Switch for, only better.
@@CaptainEffort The fact they made it seem like a add on and not a console was a huge hit. If they called the Wii U something else it could have been a decent success.
@@waffleten9750 Absolutely, but that's my point - if it was solely about exclusives then the poor marketing wouldn't have mattered. In reality marketing is incredibly important to the success or failure of a console, as we saw with the Wii U and even with the Switch. While the Wii U's poor marketing led to it being a flop, the Switch's excellent marketing led to it being a success. There are other factors too of course, but my point is that exclusives aren't *solely* what leads people to buying these devices.
I've easily spent over a grand on my switch oled buying a little over a hundred games, both AAA and indies.. I haven't touched it since receiving my steam deck. Frankly I don't think it's a honeymoon phase since it's heavily exceeded my expectations. Not only that but it's also constantly being updated thus ironing out wrinkles as well as adding features and broadening possibilities.. Not to mention the community support that is only possible due to the fact that it's an open source Linux system. I love this thing.
Q3 is around the corner and I'm still pumped about this device since February. The versatility, the support from both valve and the community, the massive game selection. What's not to love?
So much of this video perfectly encapsulates why i'm so excited to get my SD that is a few weeks away. I've been obsessing about the massive quantity of newer and older games I will have increased ability to play on one system, in a portable form factor. Hopefully, I won't have to wait much longer for my Deck, which is slated for Q3.
Steam Deck is absolutely a Switch killer. The ability to stream cloud games and install anything (even switch emulators) makes the Deck insanely versatile. The only thing the Switch has going for it is the brand affiliation and the fact that its cheaper, kinda.
I just wanna say that I love the fact you put the games that are on the screen with a title card so I can look them up. I'm getting my son the Spark game because he loves Sonic and that looks fun as hell.
7:13 this is so frustrating to watch as a linux user, it's unreal. (windows users would likely laugh if they saw me open CMD and type "sudo apt install X", but opening an .exe on linux is something that is just expected) but good video overall.
I can imagine! I think it's helpful to see the pains that people go through - the stuff that seems obvious by now. It's OK to be confused on a new platform and be "dumb" at first. I still don't consider myself a Linux "native" but I love learning!
One thing I really dislike about my Deck is how hard the joystick tips are so you can really sink your finger into it like with Xbox Series controller which also has like a slight hole so you don’t need to keep pushing down to keep a grip on the stick. After a while where you have to do precise movements in games it gets kinda uncomfortable and I wish for there to be a replacement option. Also the buttons can get uncomfortable if you have to press them often because I have to angle my thumb for them because they are right at the edge of the deck.
The closest comparison is to something like the Aya Neo or GPD Win devices. Given the success of those and the massive waiting list for the Deck I don't think its too niche in overall design. Where I *DO* think its a bit niche and where it causes me some frustrations with my own Deck, however, is that its not a *Windows* handheld gaming PC, its a *Linux* handheld gaming PC. All the pains of Linux being harder to configure are still present in the Steam Deck.
I hope the deck will become more popular and attract dev and force Microsoft to also support Linux with their software. I believe the gaming PC of the future runs Linux. Some games already are better. The only software that doesn't work is of companyd being stubborn. It would be so easy to bring their software over. Actually it's already there for 99% and they just ban you. It's also a issue with people not being used to Linux. When time goes on and people's first PC has Linux no one will complain anymore.
@@durschfalltv7505 amusingly, Microsoft Studios and XBox Game Studios already seems to have better support for Linux (or, at least, don't get in the way on running their games on Linux) than many other large publishers. Dust: An Elysian Tail came out with native Linux support, the Ori games worked nearly flawlessly on Linux, and a number of other examples. Yeah, these are indie titles, but this was also long before the Steam Deck was announced. I remember reading hardcore Overwatch players actually setting up the game in Linux for performance advantages. And now we have public support for the Steam Deck from Sony and Capcom. And we have big games like Apex Legends updating to support running on Linux, Elden Ring with day-one support for Linux, the new TMNT: Shredder's Revenge releasing with native Linux support, mainly to target the Steam Deck, and games like Phantasmophobia being updated to not require the Microsoft Cortana api for voice recognition (fun fact: the Wine developers are actually working on using an open source speech recognition library to implement this API, specifically using Phantasmophobia as a major reason). As an exclusively Linux gamer for the past 4 years, I've actually never had a shortage of games to play. This included multiplayer games I play with my wife like Killing Floor 2, Payday 2, Sea of Thieves (another title from pre-Steam Deck era Microsoft Studios), and many more I over the years. The Steam Deck has really opened the flood gates on games that I can play on my Linux Gaming setup though, which is pretty much Valves not really hidden secret intention of making the Steam Deck. Lookup Game Newell's talk at LinuxCon 2013.
Found one copy of that talk: th-cam.com/video/yeCuasjxsWk/w-d-xo.html The very last statement was very telling: "Actually next week we're going to be rolling out more information on has we get there and what are the hardware opportunities that we see for bringing Linux into the living room and potentially pointing down the road to how we can get it even more unified with in *mobile*." Whether this includes handheld, but the Steam Deck is definitely more mobile than any Desktop and arguably any laptop used for gaming. Keep in mind that this is years before the Switch.
You literally proved my point. You could play every game since 2003. Even 1995 games which has online support and you could keep your games.lmao You cant do that with Nintendo.That should be massive selling point!
I had a Hori Switch pad pro as a cheap replacement to my drifting sticks. I eventually gifted it to my nephew because I hated how chunky it felt When I got my Steam Deck, the first thing I said was, "Wooooah, this is super light!" I have no issues with the size because the shape of the grips is so perfect
@@FanTheDeck I definitely still recommend it for anyone that wants a cheap replacement to the joy con and don't mind the shape though. The value can't be argued, imo Not for me though.
I reserved the 512GB last November and finally got it a few weeks ago. I was skeptical at first sight, but man they knocked it out of the park! The Steam Deck, for me, is a game changer: With EmuDeck I can have almost all of my old library in one place, PLUS play current generation games on Steam and even use GamePass to stream. Steam has achievements which Nintendo STILL does not have, the Steam Deck has Bluetooth and massive flexibility.
You're right about indies. I've had my deck for a week now and played through Inscryption and now Mercenary Kings. The 18 buttons touchscreen, two sticks, dpad, and two touchpads can handle every game I've tried so far and with these indie titles I just don't even think about battery life or performance because I know the deck will just work.
Something changed for me after I had the deck for a couple weeks. I really expected I would use the deck mainly for AAA games, but instead I've been playing a ton of indies, and a lot of indie games I hadn't tried before on desktop.
yeah it definitely made me play games that work well with controller, something you usually don’t do as much at a desk. Minecraft is really fun on it too tho once you add a mod for steam deck controller support and some other stuff for performance. you get like 4 hours of minecraft and the touchpad is perfect for mouse input
Bias: I am a steamcontroller user. My favorite thing that makes the SD my favorite console IS the controls. I love how flexible they are and how I can just tune to my preference.
I honestly found out about so many great-looking, different indie games just by watching the background footage - thanks for listing the titles of those games!
The only advantage I see SD has over windows handhelds like Aya Neo2 or GPD Winmax2 is the price but I guess that's the add on costs for EGPU support, fingerprint sensor, hall effect joytsticks, more usbports, bezel less display, bigger default storage, windows 11 support etc.
I think Steam Deck is helping to reinforce what Switch did and that was to bring top titles to handhelds. I see this as the way forward. Elden Ring on the subway or airplane is an awesome proposition.
One thing that I haven't heard many people mention is backwards compatibility. Every single Steam Deck game will be compatible with a Steam Deck 2 or 3 or 4 etc. They're compatible with most any computer or laptop. Sony, Microsoft, and especially Nintendo can't come close to saying that.
I mean you say you can’t get Nintendo exclusives on a steam deck but I am playing the new Pokémon game on the steam deck but it’s a secret and it’s a pain in the ass to get it to start working
Well I wouldn’t say that they’re unfinished sure they were some things that some people thought was important and it wasn’t included but you can’t really predict what’s gonna go wrong and for valve to be updating on a regular basis to fix issues and read the complaints of people they were like hey I’m having this problem and then they fix it it’s pretty awesome.
"I mean you say you can’t get Nintendo exclusives on a steam deck but I am playing the new Pokémon game" To be fair - I also said "emulation notwithstanding"
To me the touchpads are the killer feature. Being able to set up touch based control pop up menus are awesome to get additional buttons/controls so it’s like you have unlimited buttons to assign to controls.
It’s way too early to speculate but there’s a huge number of people like myself that have not turned their switch on since they got a steam deck. Will we go back?
10:34 same. I was a console gamer for years before I got into pc gaming and I have no idea how I was able to play shooters with a controller. I've tried recently and I just can't go back to that, it feels so bad and wrong.
I don't consider either console to be in competition. Valve clearly doesn't either, as they just released Portal 1/2 on Switch, and Nintendo was more than happy to advertise the games in their Directs. However, I do consider the Steam Deck to be a legitimate competitor against the Windows PC. As Windows further walls its garden as they say, more and more PC enthusiasts, developers and engineers may want to move over to Linux in the future. But as it was even a few years ago, it would have been about impossible to convince PC Gamers to move to Linux as the vast majority of titles lacked real support. First they introduced Steam to Linux, then SteamOS, and now the Steam Deck, all to basically convince developers that Windows, isn't the only OS out there. With something as big and exciting as the Steam Deck, more and more developers will rush to have their game supported in Linux, and overtime, Windows will either have to back out of some of their practices, or start to lose more and more if their install base.
I agree with your closing conclusion mostly except I think that over time as switch emulation gets even better, some people (like me) would rather get a steam deck than a switch. Steam deck just has wayyy more value and it’s honestly hard for me to justify buying another nintendo console when I can hopefully emulate all of them on the steam deck. I also would rather be in valves hands bc at least their platform is more open than nintendos walled garden. EDIT: I guess 1 reason to get a switch is if there are specific games you like to play online on or with a group.
There’s also the performance aspect. The Switch essentially runs on good-quality tablet hardware, while Steam Deck runs on gaming-grade components. No black magic developer voodoo needed to run AAA games on a limited platform.
The controller button lay out was definitely something that took time for me to get used too. But once I did I can switch between it and an xbox controller without a second thought. Once the muscle memory is there it's a great lay out. Hell it's BETTER than a standard controller once you get used to adding gyro controls for when you play shooters. You just have to be willing to try something new. :)
The thing I do see people talk about enough with switch vs deck is that if I buy a non Nintendo game on switch, I don't know the future of my ability to play that game years from now. But with the deck my library will grow with me.
I actually love the fact that because of the deck you got to start a TH-cam channel. And your content has been good from the beginning. Valve nailed it by giving you a deck early I'm glad everything turned out the way it did because we have you know in the TH-cam community :)
It's a very good channel with interesting ideas and things to know and learn. I was here from the beginning when I searched for SteamDeck related content and came back ever since. The channel has matured well and i'm glad he took the advice and stopped with the one thing I did not like about the videos ;) Smart man , good channel, good content, gratz with the 17.3k followers, well deserved, keep it up!
I've been playing an old game from 2000 called Majesty on my steam deck. I had trouble getting it to run properly on my windows PC but steam deck ran it perfect right away, and the touch pads work perfectly for that game. Also I installed a texture mod for GTA San andreas and I was worried it would be a pain but it was actually very easy and took maybe 15 mins total with no past Linux experience. I got my steam deck like a week ago, but its got a dead pixel and a slightly squishy trigger so I might get an rma but I just love playing the thing I don't wanna spend another week without one.
I wasn't initially sure about the touch pads. However after 6 hours of getting audio to work on Windows 11. I can confidently say, I will never need a mouse for my deck. It's so amazing for just general use on windows. As for whether it replaces analog sticks for me, well time will tell.
I think your opinion is great! Touching in the game verification, I would love to see valve come out with a community tested verification system to steam games. This would absolutely make it easier to decide if you would wanna try a untested game. You could see the community that has tried it has had 0 issues playing in the deck or alot of issues. This would help so much. Valve could actually use that data to say oh these 1500 games run perfect on the deck already, let's verify that quickly then move on to games that need some work. With so many games avaible through steam, this could actually take some load off the testers at valve. Plus if there was an easy tweak needed for some games you could have something like this, "x amount of people deemed playable, but follow the community provided instructions to run this game".
I was surprised how light the deck is. And being able to use any controller and headset is a god send. The versatility of being able to run majority of games is mind boggling.
I agree! I jumped from PC gaming to consoles years ago and dismissed the Deck as an impractical niche device a year ago. I preordered one still since...gamer...lol and am due to get one between now and September. The more vids I've seen of the device (emulation vids, being more powerful than my current PC, highlighting Steam benefits, including PC games I do still play like Football Manager), the more I've changed my mind and I'm actually excited to have the device now! Ordered my Sandisk 1tb SD card for it on Prime Day lol
I really hope when it comes to PC SteamOS will be a open os for gamers that just works. And makes Linux grow for people who want to dig beneath it to realize they can do whatever they want and they can get more if they want to by switching to a different os and tinker and have fun that way. I hope it gets people interested in Linux and open source and Foss software and make them realize how important it is and how it can make us happier and better people.
I seriously doubt Steam Deck will convince people to switch to Linux. I know it hasn't convinced me, if anything it convinced me that I don't want Linux on my PC. I can see that Steam has done good job to ensure many games run, but it often seems that this all works not because of Linux but despite Linux.
@@marekkedzierski8237 but maybe you should try out Linux. Not because it can do everything that windows can do or is easy for a user coming from windows. See MacOS is far inferior to Linux yet 15% of laptops use it? Why not because it's better because, no it's on a good hardware platform it is also is pushed by the most valuable brand of the world. From the capabilitys Linux or bsd based operating systems are far superior. Look what Linux has accomplished with a franction of the money that Microsoft poured into windows. It's far easier to understand and too Learn. The command line isn't hard for most people it's just new. I thought the command line is hard now i this k it's very easy and I prefer it for many tasks. Because i can do everything i need in 1 window. Sure 99% of what i use is still a gui. But creating and deleting partitions and installing software i do it all via the command line. Also what is so great about it? I can just automate everything I want to do. I want to update the system well i press a hotkey j want to do anything because everything is open source and everything is just there i can do everything as i want too. And sure it's a bit hacky but that's not a problem. Once you initially learned how to use open software it's super easy. In the future we will have to ask us the question do we want to control our PC our let our PC control us. And for me there is no in-between. In the future tech illiteracy will be like being an analphabetic person rn. It will be necessary to function in society. Why not become a part of that rn. You have nothing to lose. It's an investment into your future. it's a investment into a better future. You don't even sacrifice anything anymore. You just sacrifice a bit of convienience.
Sadly the DS4 only works with PS4 games on PS5. There's no reason it couldn't work with PS5 games on PS5. This was a pain because I wanted to play the PS5 version of Sackboy (looks better) with my kid but couldn't use the DS4. So I either had to buy a new DualSense (70 USD) or play the PS4 version on the PS5. I ended up buying a used DualSense so that stung a lot less but a DS4 would have been just fine in that scenario.
@@FanTheDeck just tested it on Ghost of Tsushima and yeah you're right. Didn't know this but it's pretty dumb that you can't for no reason other than Sony wanting people to buy more DualSense controllers. Btw great vid.
Why every youtubers go...Elden Ring, Cyberpunk, Its not the first thing i will do. I don't buy crap games with bugs. They probably updated a bit, but there are so many good games.
What I like about the Steam Deck is the popularity means developers will likely start taking a step back from pushing for higher and higher end hardware, and start targeting that 800p, 30-40fps gaming space, which is great for me. I think game graphics kindof peaked around 2015-2017 with games like Metal Gear Solid V, Nier: Automata, The Witcher 3, Arkham Knight...great looking games that still hold up today.
Valve/Steam has downgraded the SSD Card ON the next shipments of steamdecks without informing the customers that are waiting ....any thoughts on this subject ........???
The d-pad is uncomfortable for me to use on the steam deck. Also, I find that it’s high position causes me to make a lot of incorrect directional inputs in retro games.
I kinda want to buy a SteamDeck. But I want a water tight one cause i have ocd and bathe everything i touch in ethanol. Actually i don't want a water tight one i want to be healed from my ocd. but it's so difficult. I just can't
I can't imagine what that's like - do you know others with OCD that you can talk to? I imagine it would be helpful to be able to talk about it at the very least.
@@FanTheDeck i have been dealing with it for years now. It's probably a way to cope for me. Other may use alcohol or other drugs. This is pretty much my drug. Allthough there is nothing enjoyable about it. It pretty much hinders me to improve my life in anyway. Because getting anything done requires twice the work. When I come home i need to shower for example before using my PC and I also disinfect my peripherals with Ethanol. Luckely these simple electrics don't mind it too much. I am already getting help but it's still like seemingly impossible for me to get rid of it. Because as soon as I don't strictly follow my ocd a immense feeling of stress is rushing through me it feels like being held at gunpoint. Sometimes i do manage do stand my ground and it's temporarily better. But sometimes i crumble and lose all control. you don't wish ocd your worst enemy. Because it ruins your life. It's like a disability. I mean some things are worse and some things are better. I mean I have the hope that i might heal from it one day but that means for the time being i know i could live a great life but for some stupid reason i can't. It also sucks out all my energy. Everything feels like a chore. Literally anything even eating or going to sleep. It's kind of a checking and egg problem. I need a good life so i don't have to cope anymore but I can't get a good life because i am coping. So i have to do baby steps but it's so easy to lose track of progress in that and accidentally take step backwards and it grinds away at your will. I probably need someone to point a actuall gun at me and force me to stop. But I would probably react with Aggression and i really don't want to because it would be alot of pain. Healing from ocd is basically torture. So you kinda try to spread it out. But it's hard to convince yourself to torture yourself. If there would be like a medicine that could disable pain. That would be awesome but that doesn't exist. I mean I could try extreme measures like taking a shit ton of LSD and getting my brain rearranged but who knows what could happen to me. I don't want more problems and in my country there is only 1 Doctor offering therapy with it and it's hard to be approved. What i basically do to bear the pain of ocd is watch TH-cam all day or play videos games, eat, jack off, sleep whatever is the easiest to do rn. If i have the money i will visit my parents because that's very enjoyable too. I just need something to occupie my brain with. Some sort of stimulation. It's so hard to do work of any kind because this initial phase of starting work doing something that your brain isn't used too is boring. There isn't alot of stimulation in that. For like 20 minutes you are just there exposed to your body and your mind you start feeling the weight of your mind because you can't hind from it anymore cause ther ist nothing to distract you, that's very painful for me. So if i do work i never do it without doing something else at the same time. It's literally impossible for me but even that way it's still painful because all the preparations i have to do. I can't even use pen and paper it's like if you have to smash your hands with a hammer before starting to write. Honestly i rather have that quirck than what i have rn.
@@durschfalltv7505 Thank you for writing that. It gives some semblance of what it must be like for you and I get stress and pain just reading it so yeah. I pray for a cure. Re: LSD, I've heard that there have been a lot of studies recently about microdosing psilocybin and the benefits that it may bring. That is absolutely not medical advice and I imagine that it is exceedingly difficult to do in a country with only one doctor offering therapy. But I do pray that some cures and mitigations are found. Thanks again for sharing your story.
I'm waiting to get my SteamDeck, but for me I kinda look at the SteamDeck as a Switch Pro of sorts. I recently played Neon White on Switch but if I had my Deck I'd had played on that same for a few indies and stuff like Persona 4 Golden etc
Yall remember about 10 years ago people were saying nobody wants to play triple A games on a handheld, that's why the vita failed, people want quick indie like games on the go, phones are taking over???? The whole time I hated this take....im glad to see there is a market for this type of handheld gaming, because I'm not a huge fan of quick burst type of phone games...
The only real disadvantage I’ve noticed for the steam deck is just that the games I’m interested in playing that are playable on steam deck are relatively limited. Still, more games will be playable over time which will make it more accessible and popular in the future.
Most of the games on my deck are untested or said not to work, they do but some required some work to get them running. Type " this game on the steam deck" in the TH-cam search box, if it can run, someone will show you how to make it work on yours.
If Steamdeck would be a smartphone, then Switch would be a dial phone. It is obvious Switch will die out rather sooner then later, not because the deck is here but because SteamOS is. One can only imagine how many companies will give their own spin on the Deck with that very well polished free OS. Switch will die, not because SteamDeck killed it, but because every descendent of it will. Some switch games even struggle to be played on the device they are made for... Rip Nintendo and their expensive closed envirement
Steamdeck will never be a hit with the casual players. They will stick to Nintendo. Also Steamdeck doesn't have Mario, zelda, smash Bros, Splatoon, Mario party, animal crossing, Pokémon. Etc.
@@erwinekkel9676 SteamDeck won't be a hit with the casuals, because its a very new first gen device that needs some thinkering to work as intended. But be sure that everything that will come after Deck will be a hit because the OS will become better and better and will go more towards the console experience for the casual players. To be clear on my SteamDeck I have Mario, zelda, Mario party, Pokémon. Etc. emulated, which works perfectly fine and don't forget, SteamDeck now can emulate Switch games so its only a matter of time before I will have Smash Bros, Splatoon and Animal crossing on my Deck :)
The Switch is unlikely to be Nintendo's last device. They certainly have a successor in the works, and knowing Nintendo it will have some gimmick which might or might not be a hit. Also, the Switch currently has advantages: * Nintendo exclusives. Nintendo makes some of the biggest games in the console market, that's not changing any time soon. While I understand emulation is a thing, the most natural place people will go to play their Nintendo games is on a Nintendo system - currently the Switch. * Price. The Switch remains cheaper than the Steam Deck, especially if you consider the entire lineup of both devices. * Ease of use. Just pop in a cartridge and start playing. * Name recognition and marketing: Nintendo is a much larger brand than Valve, and they pour a lot more money into marketing. I see Nintendo ads all over the place, can't say the same for Valve. I don't plan on trashing my Switch when I get a Steam Deck, as I love Nintendo's games and don't want to go to dark corners of the internet to get copies of games. I also think good developers deserve to put food on their tables, so I don't mind paying for Nintendo's games.
@@logicalfundy I completely agree with this. The steam deck will not significantly impact switch sales. They also need to be readily available. This is why I think the steam deck 2/3 will be a major hit as opposed to the current one. Enough time to iron out the problems, make it more user friendly and available and it will do well. Just like the Oculus Quest2 did over the first.
The controller layout for the deck didn't take long for me adjust at all. And the back buttons are so helpful. I'm still tweaking the gyro settings cause that's something Nintendo nailed with the joycons.
I got a Deck for 2 weeks now and metal Jesus review is the one that resonate with me the most. Replaying games of the Xbox 360 and ps2 era is what feels the most natural on the deck for some reason. BioShock, racedriver grid, Pikmin, f-zero gx, ssx tricky, burnout 3 and so on.
I found your segment on the track pads especially interesting. I've not found a good game yet to really sink my teeth into learning to use them as a mouse. In fact, I've been avoiding games that are mouse heavy (Terraria, Factorio, Satisfactory...) because of the track pads. I would try the Sims 4 as that one guy did in his video segment but I didn't get the Origin store working yet on my deck. You claimed that you prefer the pads more than the joysticks in some games that you play. What is a great game to use as a learning tool when it comes to learning to use the track pads? I've tried a few but get so frustrated that I end up quitting rather quickly.
Try any first person rpg between Dagerfall and Skyrim Right pad to aim / look and left pad as touch menu (for all weird shortcuts) I'm currently amassing hours in Dagerfall Unity and touch menu for things like map / travel / rest / logbook menu shortcuts is godsend. Also tes games never really required twitch-reflexes aiming in combat, so there's that
I like JM's comment. I haven't tried a first person RPG on Steam Deck or Steam Controller but that makes a lot of sense. I kind of jumped in the deep end to be honest. I played DOOM 2016 on a Steam Controller and that started me down that road. You know what I'd actually recommend though. An older FPS remaster. Something like DOOM 64, Quake or Turok. These are easier but still a ton of fun and require less vertical aiming.
Modded Minecraft is the perfect crash course to Steam input mapping. I have a steam controller, so not the exact same. Theres so many inputs, random buttons, different GUI cases, it's the most complicated input, yet also the lowest stakes. Now I play modded minecraft on the couch with a controller, and I might be the only person who can do that lol. I reccomend any casual open world first person game
Some people don't really get that steam deck isn't a traditional portable console but a traditional pc in a budget portable format that brings almost endless flexibility
Once Steam can get publishers to optimize their games for the SD, in file size, performance and offline playable single player games (glaring at you EA), SD is gonna explode. Until then tho, it's more of a companion for the Switch and games I can't play there. I have roughly 300 digital downloaded games on my Switch. But SD has only 66 on More storage, entirely because of the file size.
I really hope more of them optimize file sizes specifically for people who download the game on Steam Decks since they don't need 4k textures or any other data that's useless so that the file sizes aren't massively inflated. But I really don't see many doing that sadly :/
My favourite game on the deck is trying to get the optimal battery life and performance possible out of every title. Like honestly, I’m finding that way more fun than I should.
I would like to see a video on game storage options. like ssd upgrade, external usb ssd, sd card flash, power injection with external storage, with actual use cases like In built steam games, emulators, non steam games like the epic patch store as power and storage are the to main ghost in the machine people have mentioned, my deck is almost here (64gb) so i would like to look at upgrades and longevity
9:23 now for me the thumbstick placement is fine as personally I hate the Xbox layout, I grew up using the PlayStation controller so having them in line just feels right also the are exactly where your thumbs will rest while holding the device so that’s another plus for me.
I don't see how one can compare the Switch to the Steam Deck without dedicating time to discuss the "Nintendo Tax". The Switch has the highest costs to build a gaming library, while the Steam Deck has the cheapest gaming library costs.
Literally have a 23 Games Libary full of Top Quality Games under 200€ and 3 Switch Games alone are 180€
Also, there are so many people that have a full Steam library already from the sales. I'm getting a Deck because all my games will already be on it.
Nintendo fans pay full price for games and extra for online just to play old ROMs with emulation that's decent at best...but have the nerve to bring up price as an argument lol
And lets not forget nintendo making a lot of mediocre shit lately with non mainline titels, poor performance on a lot of first party games, 1 added function to their lackluster homescreen with these folders? Horrible nintendo online and a lot of other stuff that is anti consumer.
Steam is the opposite what Nintendo is doing, more freedom is what people are after nintendo got more and more lazy and greedy
I’m ashamed to say I have a fat steam library and two Nintendo switches with a fat library I just have a problem with buying games at this point tbh my steam deck is coming soon and I already know I won’t be playing my switch much
The key to Steam Deck's continued success, is the support.
Valve are literally re-writing the rule book for hardware AND software support simultaneously, which is unprecedented.
You absolutely would not get this with Nintendo........ever & that's why my money is with Valve right now.
Sony & Microsoft do support but not to the unbelievable levels Valve have delivered in over recent months.
They are indeed re-writing the rulebook hardware and software support and they are doing so for pc-gaming, this actually makes it a potential Windows-killer.
Valve always deliver when it comes to software. Except when it come to making more games we want.
As an added bonus, the Steamdeck is also improving things for the whole linux community, which is great as a new linux user
Even if I wasn’t excited about the Steam Deck, I would still buy it just to support Valve, to support what they’re doing. To ENCOURAGE their behavior.
The worst part is all the other manufacturers COULD do this, but they don't, and I don't know why they don't, probably because they don't have to since no one else does.
Maybe Valve will end up forcing their hands in the future.
For me, it's very simple. The steam deck offers the ability to play PC exclusives in a console-like ecosystem with a handheld form factor. I can pick it up off my table and play a bunch of PC only games without having to do any of the upkeep my laptop asks of me, at less than half the price of a new laptop.
Yeah it's still amazing how cheap they were able to get this thing at $400 considering the price of everything else on the market
When you put it like that, plus having a massively bigger selection of games, it kind of is a no-brainer
aaaaand emulation. :-)
After my first week with the console I've played through two GBA games, one Gamecube game, one PS1 game and a Switch game and now I'm starting another playthrough of Skyrim on my Deck. About halfway through that list of games I found myself completely in love with this console. It's basically everything I've ever wanted in a handheld and my backlog is now essentially bottomless
It’s really easy to compare the Nintendo Switch to the Steam Deck but now that I’ve had my hands on the Deck, they feel like completely different devices despite both technically being handheld gaming devices. I knew that going into it but actually experiencing it, I finally truly understand just how different these devices really are
I agree. You have to really use both to see how different they are.
In my opinion, the Steam Deck is something the Switch could never wish to be. Not the other way around
@@applehazeva2739 I agree 100%
No shit there different devices I still rather have a steam deck and I own both
@@NoFaceCobain Nice to have you back, Kurt
I've had my deck for about 3 weeks now. After I put order in, I wasn't sure I would actually buy it, because I don't need one... but I got the notification that I was able to buy mine, and I decided to do it, mostly because they are so rare. Man am I glad I picked it up! I have used it way more than I expected! It's not only great to play games on, but just tinkering and seeing what you can get it to do! I really think devices like the deck are the future. I think it will be the death of traditional consoles. Only time will tell, but if you are thinking about it, put in your reservation now! You won't regret it!
I was in the exact same situation as you. I nearly did not purchase it when my notification came up. Did it anyway and now I play more games than before.
Not Nintendo consoles though mabye Xbox lol
While steam deck sure is amazing product, doesnt mean that traditional consoles will die in the future..
Console still has its own community and dedicated players
@@abdur1300 of course nothing will replace consoles, thats just weirdos talking
Yeah. I got mine a couple weeks ago, when I wasn’t. sure I was going to get it-I hardly ever play my Switch in portable mode. But I’ve been playing more PC games than I have in a long time. I really like my Steam Deck.
It’s driven sales for me, as well. I’ve gotten more games because I want to try them on the Steam Deck. If it’s a loss leader, then it’s working in my case.
We steam deckers are a big friendly family, and I am very proud to be part of it. Thank you for making this vids from the beginning, and you are 100% right: This device grow´s - not only on us, but with time. In sum: the best 420 Euros, I ever spent on gaming hardware, since a decade. I absolute adore my Steam Deck and, having the device now for 2 months, still sucking up every second of content from TH-camrs like you!
Couldn't state it any better
After read your coment, i think you are an example to help me on my question. So, i have a low end pc, and i am fine but not really fine with it you know, i have games that i like to play and my pc run them and im happy with that, but i want to play some more recent games. I will work this summer, and if i have 600 euros, i could buy a nintendo switch lite in the case, its cheap and i could spend the rest of the money on games or whatever, and i really like the games and most of them are nintendo exclusive, and the lite in the case is very portable. Or i could buy a steam deck, the 256gb version because a memory card its expansive, and in your case, the 64gb worths to you? But ok, if i buy it, i spend all my money, but i have a "high spec pc" and portable at the same time, and i allready have steam games buyed, and, theres no pc that runs the games like steam deck under 1000 euros, its a great deal. I dont know really, what do you think, and thank you for your attencion!
@@ratoeira8477 Hey friend. First of all: The Steam Deck is no state of the art gaming PC, where you can play actual and upcoming triple A titles in all of their glory. For example, I have an I7 4790K, with a GTX 1080 (no Ti, the old one) and 16GB of RAM. - Which is quite old hardware in terms of actual triple A stuff. And the Steam Deck, IMO, is quite on the same level with my PC, which means, I can play the same games with almost the same performance on the Deck and on my gaming PC (with the difference, that the Steam Deck has just 800p - which is looking fantastic on the small screen). If you would ask me, if I would invest more money in my stationary PC (as a long term PC gamer), I would deny this question. Maybe the Steam Deck II somewhere in the future :) - Related to the Switch - I already do have one, the V2 model, with the better battery, but no OLED: I love it, and have a ton of games on it, especially some "oldies", which had been played by the younger Alf - for example Turok, Blade Runner, Star Wars Episode One Racer, just to name a few. (Mostly people say, you have to play first party games, Mario and similar - but on this side, I just have the Mario Kart game, nothing else in this direction). BUT: If I have to decide today (with all, what I know about the devices), between a Switch OLED (fantastic screen), a new gaming PC (600 Euros budget is quite small, I think), or a Steam Deck, I would of course decide 100% sure for the Steam Deck. I have the 64GB model, but buy MicroSD cards, when needed, where I am not only store the games, but in some situations also the compatdata and shadercache files on it (and relink it to the main storage, which works like a charm, and save a ton of space, when you have a big collection of games - there are helpful videos on youtube or explanations on reddit), and put it in a "credit card" case, with velcro strips into the Steam Deck bag. My advice: Buy either the 64GB or maybe the 256GB version of the Deck, plus a 400GB MicroSD card (no need for the A2 cards, the A1 are good enough), and buy games while they are on sale many times a year in the Steam Shop. In the end, you can dock the Steam Deck with every good USB-C Dock to your TV or monitor and play your games on it. Some less demanding games maybe with 1080p or 4K/30fps together with friends. You can connect every USB controller, Bluetooth device or other accessory to the Deck. Linux is an open platform, and we can await so many nice things to do in the future with it. Without MS spying crap or Nintendont, needing years just for to implement Bluetooth support for earbuds on the Switch (and of course UI changes, where we can put games together in folders... OMG, wow!!!). Sorry for the long explanation, I hope, I could help you in your decision.
@@ratoeira8477 One little addition: I had the Switch lite, but changed quite fast to the bigger model, - the screen and battery time is just better. And if you have problems with the joystick drift, you have to send the whole console to Nintendo for repair (not only the Joycon, which you would do with the bigger model).
@@ratoeira8477 Sounds like you already have your answer. Go with the portable pc and all of it's unknown future updates :)
Man indie games are killing it right now and yea, Gloomwood looks amazing. I knew it would be perfect for me, but man, the more I use it the more I love it too. I spent 2 weeks tinkering with dual boot and setting up emulators. Now i've been playing games and it just gets more fun. Alternate button layouts, remapping the touchpads to keys, its incredible. After about 2-3 weeks I've gotten so much better with the touchpads. It really does become quite natural and really enjoyable.
How do you personally use the touchpads?
@@FanTheDeck I don't have mine yet but I use the left trackpad in place of the d-pad and the right one in place of joystick, it feels more intuitive this way.
I think it’s not the matter of the switch and the deck not co-existing with each other. I believe that the sentiment of the deck being called the switch killer has more to do with the idea that most companies are trying to compete on the one thing that is really important for all of us, which is our time.
That’s why we see all these companies, that originally had nothing to do with gaming, encroaching themselves in the gaming space. Nothing bad about it but that’s the current trend of the market right now.
And now we see a gaming giant (Steam) release their new handheld console (that looks quite similar to the switch) and it’s no surprise that people will perceive it that way. Steam/Nintendo/Aya/Ayn will succeed in making you ask, “which console should I bring to the toilet and play for an hour?”
Ideally, you'll take none if them to the toilet and play after you've washed your hands, lol
Healthier that way, too :)
But I get your point
You be on the toilet for a hour?
Comparing Steam Deck to the Nintendo Switch always strikes me as odd. Sure they have kinda similar form factors, but one is a PC and the other is a games console. One is an open platform with wide ranging applications and the other is a walled garden.
I agree but a large portion of people don't understand that or their use case doesn't permit for this view. lots of people essentially think of them as being "pretty much the same thing". kind of like the " turn off your Nintendo" when they have a PlayStation.
Switch and Deck are both sold as consoles. Their primary use cases are the same. The concept of the Steam Deck being a PC or having an open platform requires the user to explore far outside the boundaries of the Steam Decks primary use case. So the two devices are prime for direct head to head comparisons.
@@Cakebattered not really that far out of the boundaries considering there's an option right on the menu for desktop mode
@@cookbookforcannibals Desktop mode is essentially hidden at the bottom of the power menu, which itself is at the bottom of the main menu. It's not as obscured as jailbreaking or rooting, but it's not a highlighted feature. If all you are doing is buying games off Steam and playing, Desktop mode isn't required.
I don't think it's odd at all. Both have the goal of being a handheld console, and they don't *kinda* have the same form factor, they outright do. Sure, a big reason why people got a Switch is for Nintendo games, but the portability is a big reason why it was so appealing. I don't think Nintendo is immune from comparisons just because it has a different business model and more appealing exclusives.
I totally agree that the device gets even better the more you explore capabilities. For example I wasn't sure whether I would take the Deck with me to university before I got it. Now I'm already replacing my laptop with it because it is lighter than my laptop, I can take a bluetooth keyboard with me in case I need it and the desktop is functional enough to do everything I need to do. But the upside in taking my Deck with me instead of my laptop is that I can actually game on it in the bus or in breaks between lectures.
Another thing I noticed later on. You can even use the Steam Deck as conference microphone because Valve implemented an automatic muting if the internal speakers get used (the intention was probably to play through Steam without headset). This is really versatile because you need one piece of hardware less in your pocket for such cases.
One additional thing I have thought yesterday is the ability to have internet access on the go. You could actually plug a WWAN card adapter via USB to the Deck and utilize a SIM card. The only required part for this is a working driver on Linux, I assume. But with the development improvements on the side of Linux phones and tablets, I'm sure that could be or become possible.
Depending on the possibility to run Android apps via ARM compatibility or emulation, you could even replace your phone with the Deck. I mean the microphones are pretty good, idle and standby power draw is okay... technically there's no real reason this wouldn't be possible. Also a working SIM card with the Deck would allow to play multiplayer PC games like many MMOs on the go which is pretty crazy if you think about it. I'm definitely looking forward to the options in this field.
Jesus this is a treasure trove of information. I don’t have a steam deck and now it’s pushed me towards wanting one more now
Also Playstation 5 remote play and playing even non compatible games via streaming from your pc. I'm pretty excited to try these out
Gotta love when us early adopters are proven right. I think the deck will really explode in popularity
it already has
Over 1 Million pre-orders so far, and growing.
Oh yeah, people who know about it are stoked, but I mean the people who never heard of it will get into it as they see people playing them
I have a good friend who swears it isn't successful. He swears no one in the PC Master Race even discusses it. He doesn't see the purpose as he sits at his pc for work, then pleasure for his entire day. But still he pre ordered one lol.
I doubt it. Who is the market for this? Hardcore pc gamers will stick to pc. Casual players will stick to Nintendo. So this is only for pc players who also want to play in handheld mode.
Watching this while playing with my Switch is kinda ironic, but I'll have to settle with Steam Deck alternatives since it's not yet available outside of Western nations atm.
I would argue its barely available in the Western Nations lol. I hope its way more available soon to way more people and regions, thats what will really make it a success. I also hope the alternatives stoke innovation, we need it in general lol.
I'm so anxious to see two things:
- These low priced handhelds coming from AYA/Ayn
- and seeing them potentially collaborate with Valve for SteamOS on other handhelds
@@thegreatmrp that's true, but Valve is focused on their Western market demands that other tech companies just have to gun for the $650 experience for their portable pc for non-Western markets to pay attention to, especially since Ayn & AYA are doing good.
@@RockOrso2You make an excellent point.
Great work... Your updates are getting more polished as well, these updates keep me looking forward to getting "the" email from Valve.
Thanks Dom! Trying to get better every time and it's helpful to hear it's working!
Sending good vibes for the email from Valve!
Haha, I like how you mention that at first people wanna play games like Elden Ring and God of War. My very first thought of the Steam Deck went to Undertale.
You are my people haha. The first game I installed is Grapple Dog.
Hand of Fate will be the first game for me... I'm dying to try it on my deck this summer.
Crosscode for me. Pretty cool game but I keep prioritizing other games on my PC because I want to justify my GPU
I just ran some games on pcsx2 lol. The Deck runs them at 2x resolution like it's nothing...
It's great to see Deck continue rolling forward with compelling aspects but, really, if Deck *did* compete with Switch, then it still wouldn't be so bad to see Nintendo finally get on their feet and punch back. It will (I hope at least) be like Epic making their store, and then all of a sudden Steam got so much better as a whole with merely one decent competitor.
I would say there’s still a specific overlap in customer base of the steam deck and Nintendo switch in which they both are definitely competing. Of course that’s not for all customers but some people who just want a mobile gaming device and don’t care too much about Nintendo exclusives might go for the Deck instead.
I find that a lot of the points regarding how cool the Steam Deck is is just people discovering pc gaming for the first time.
Look, im 36y/o and been building my own gamepc's since I was 15, have +220games on Steam and +120 on EpicGames, have a Valve index, a fanatec racing wheel with race-seat/basshakers/windsim/etc..., I have build my own arcade with +10.000 games on it, have a modern (Sinden) lightgun for that arcade and many more pc-gaming crap and (oldschool) consoles of many sorts (gameboys, Pi-boy, switch, anbernic...) so there is nothing new for me to see or explore in the pc gaming market not a single thing but every time I hold my SteamDeck in my hands and start up a game it makes me think: "wow, this is just crazy and amazing to have this device in my hands, just wow" every single time my friend, every single time :) SteamDeck is a beast and is so much more then I could ever hoped for in a device like that and people who havent used one can't really understand how genius the SteamDeck and SteamOS is. My hat is off to valve for making this (first gen) masterpiece.
@@IronBalls007 I'm not saying it's anything but amazing. I had to pay for scalper prices for mine because Valve don't sell their hardware in my region (it didn't arrive yet).
I'm just saying that because of it people are discovering pc gaming. Like the point in the video about PS3/360 era games and etc.
Please, tell me I'm not the only one who had goosebumps while hearing: "The entire history of videogames playable on one platform". 😵
Yes but the battery life is bad on steam deck
@@КристиянТрънбашев-ш6г Only for modern day AAA titles. Everything else runs 3 hrs minimum on battery
Got one and love it. Now I want a more powerful one with better battery life and a smaller form. I can't wait for Steam Deck 2.
In my opinion it has made me appreciate Linux and Proton more as a everyday computing platform that I'm contemplating going Linux on my desktop PC's and laptops. I can't even install Windows 11 on my PC's and laptops without upgrading and that's not going to happen while my current computer's are still useable and its going to cost a fortune that I don't want to spend right now.
Honestly I’m at the point now with mine where I’m questioning whether I’ll ever upgrade my (only year old high end) desktop Pc. The only things I even turn it on for now is VR simulation games like iRacing and DCS world, and even that isn’t that often.
If Next Gen deck (in a few years) ends up supporting external GPU units then I likely will go that route and not even bother with a full desktop in the future.
Your expectations are unrealistic; If they make it more powerful, it will reduce battery life, if it was smaller, there is less space for a battery so once again reduced batter life only now the thermals will begin to be a problem. At the current tech level of batteries, more battery life means a bigger battery so no small form factor.
I have a launch Switch, an OLED and reserved my Steam Deck a week ago. Website said expect something around October.
After playing with the Steam Deck for a month and a half I have to said I love the Steam Deck. But I haven't stop usimg my OLED like I thought I would. The Steam Deck feels very heavy on my hands and it is impossible for me to play for a long period of time. Which is not a real complain because at the same time the battery drains very quickly. By the time I have to take a break it is also time to charge it. So I go back and forth between Deck and Switch.
Also for some games on the Deck I had to go around them and make them work for me. Either changing performance, setting or controller setups. It is not as easy as I turn it on and go like the Switch.
How did you get the WaveBird to work? That uses Radio Frequencies not Bluetooth. And it has its own wireless dongle that plugs into the controller slot
I used the mayflash adapter: amzn.to/3zH7ujV
@@FanTheDeck ah gotcha
Y’know while I’m here I’m going to talk about something, Game Devs listen to my words! If you put your game out ON CONSOLE which mean it has controller support, it can run on steam deck too if it has a Steam PC counterpart, so if you posted your game on the XBOX store run the same button mapping for the steam deck and boom Steam Deck ready game on steam.
More power to you for buying Nintendo devices solely for their exclusives, but I don't think that's the case for casual audiences. I mean if people just bought Nintendo consoles for their games then the WiiU wouldn't have flopped, right?
I think many people get drawn into the gimmicks and excellent marketing - like the Wii with its motion controls or the Switch with its "Switching" capabilities. I also think many "gamers" bought the Switch solely to play their console-level games on the go. I mean there's a reason Nintendo decided to show Skyrim in their initial ads before Bethesda had even agreed to release it for the system.
So while I understand where people are coming from with "Switch vs Deck is silly", I respectfully disagree. I feel that for many of us the Steam Deck does exactly what we initially bought the Switch for, only better.
The Wii U game line up was very underwhelming, no traditional Mario game nor a Pokémon game. I honest don’t know what they was thinking with that one.
@@tonicipirani7659 But it’s not like people knew that on launch day. The Wii U flopped out of the gate
@@CaptainEffort The fact they made it seem like a add on and not a console was a huge hit. If they called the Wii U something else it could have been a decent success.
@@waffleten9750 Absolutely, but that's my point - if it was solely about exclusives then the poor marketing wouldn't have mattered. In reality marketing is incredibly important to the success or failure of a console, as we saw with the Wii U and even with the Switch. While the Wii U's poor marketing led to it being a flop, the Switch's excellent marketing led to it being a success.
There are other factors too of course, but my point is that exclusives aren't *solely* what leads people to buying these devices.
I've easily spent over a grand on my switch oled buying a little over a hundred games, both AAA and indies.. I haven't touched it since receiving my steam deck. Frankly I don't think it's a honeymoon phase since it's heavily exceeded my expectations. Not only that but it's also constantly being updated thus ironing out wrinkles as well as adding features and broadening possibilities.. Not to mention the community support that is only possible due to the fact that it's an open source Linux system. I love this thing.
Q3 is around the corner and I'm still pumped about this device since February. The versatility, the support from both valve and the community, the massive game selection. What's not to love?
Anyone else casually wishlisting and downloading demos while watching? lol
here🙋♂. Especially the metroidvanias 😁
You found the real purpose of the video!
So much of this video perfectly encapsulates why i'm so excited to get my SD that is a few weeks away. I've been obsessing about the massive quantity of newer and older games I will have increased ability to play on one system, in a portable form factor. Hopefully, I won't have to wait much longer for my Deck, which is slated for Q3.
Steam Deck is absolutely a Switch killer.
The ability to stream cloud games and install anything (even switch emulators) makes the Deck insanely versatile.
The only thing the Switch has going for it is the brand affiliation and the fact that its cheaper, kinda.
I just wanna say that I love the fact you put the games that are on the screen with a title card so I can look them up. I'm getting my son the Spark game because he loves Sonic and that looks fun as hell.
7:13
this is so frustrating to watch as a linux user, it's unreal. (windows users would likely laugh if they saw me open CMD and type "sudo apt install X", but opening an .exe on linux is something that is just expected)
but good video overall.
I can imagine! I think it's helpful to see the pains that people go through - the stuff that seems obvious by now. It's OK to be confused on a new platform and be "dumb" at first. I still don't consider myself a Linux "native" but I love learning!
Steam deck wins for me. Just played in a bus station while waiting and it was so fun.
One thing I really dislike about my Deck is how hard the joystick tips are so you can really sink your finger into it like with Xbox Series controller which also has like a slight hole so you don’t need to keep pushing down to keep a grip on the stick. After a while where you have to do precise movements in games it gets kinda uncomfortable and I wish for there to be a replacement option. Also the buttons can get uncomfortable if you have to press them often because I have to angle my thumb for them because they are right at the edge of the deck.
The closest comparison is to something like the Aya Neo or GPD Win devices. Given the success of those and the massive waiting list for the Deck I don't think its too niche in overall design.
Where I *DO* think its a bit niche and where it causes me some frustrations with my own Deck, however, is that its not a *Windows* handheld gaming PC, its a *Linux* handheld gaming PC. All the pains of Linux being harder to configure are still present in the Steam Deck.
I hope the deck will become more popular and attract dev and force Microsoft to also support Linux with their software. I believe the gaming PC of the future runs Linux. Some games already are better. The only software that doesn't work is of companyd being stubborn. It would be so easy to bring their software over. Actually it's already there for 99% and they just ban you. It's also a issue with people not being used to Linux. When time goes on and people's first PC has Linux no one will complain anymore.
@@durschfalltv7505 amusingly, Microsoft Studios and XBox Game Studios already seems to have better support for Linux (or, at least, don't get in the way on running their games on Linux) than many other large publishers. Dust: An Elysian Tail came out with native Linux support, the Ori games worked nearly flawlessly on Linux, and a number of other examples. Yeah, these are indie titles, but this was also long before the Steam Deck was announced. I remember reading hardcore Overwatch players actually setting up the game in Linux for performance advantages. And now we have public support for the Steam Deck from Sony and Capcom. And we have big games like Apex Legends updating to support running on Linux, Elden Ring with day-one support for Linux, the new TMNT: Shredder's Revenge releasing with native Linux support, mainly to target the Steam Deck, and games like Phantasmophobia being updated to not require the Microsoft Cortana api for voice recognition (fun fact: the Wine developers are actually working on using an open source speech recognition library to implement this API, specifically using Phantasmophobia as a major reason).
As an exclusively Linux gamer for the past 4 years, I've actually never had a shortage of games to play. This included multiplayer games I play with my wife like Killing Floor 2, Payday 2, Sea of Thieves (another title from pre-Steam Deck era Microsoft Studios), and many more I over the years. The Steam Deck has really opened the flood gates on games that I can play on my Linux Gaming setup though, which is pretty much Valves not really hidden secret intention of making the Steam Deck. Lookup Game Newell's talk at LinuxCon 2013.
@@NicholasIstre i agree riot,epic games and budgie are much worse.
Found one copy of that talk: th-cam.com/video/yeCuasjxsWk/w-d-xo.html
The very last statement was very telling:
"Actually next week we're going to be rolling out more information on has we get there and what are the hardware opportunities that we see for bringing Linux into the living room and potentially pointing down the road to how we can get it even more unified with in *mobile*."
Whether this includes handheld, but the Steam Deck is definitely more mobile than any Desktop and arguably any laptop used for gaming. Keep in mind that this is years before the Switch.
You literally proved my point. You could play every game since 2003. Even 1995 games which has online support and you could keep your games.lmao You cant do that with Nintendo.That should be massive selling point!
I had a Hori Switch pad pro as a cheap replacement to my drifting sticks. I eventually gifted it to my nephew because I hated how chunky it felt
When I got my Steam Deck, the first thing I said was, "Wooooah, this is super light!" I have no issues with the size because the shape of the grips is so perfect
Nice! That's fair re: Hori
@@FanTheDeck I definitely still recommend it for anyone that wants a cheap replacement to the joy con and don't mind the shape though. The value can't be argued, imo
Not for me though.
3:53 Deck ready vs fan the deck which one do you think he was going to say and be honest?
I really appreciate your thought through commentary and the background vids of new demo games that I'll check out.
Nice to see that we watch the same tech-influencers. :]
I was also thinking Wulff meant your channel as he failed to remember the name. xD
I was legit screaming at the video! That's ok, maybe he'll see this one 🤣
I reserved the 512GB last November and finally got it a few weeks ago. I was skeptical at first sight, but man they knocked it out of the park! The Steam Deck, for me, is a game changer: With EmuDeck I can have almost all of my old library in one place, PLUS play current generation games on Steam and even use GamePass to stream. Steam has achievements which Nintendo STILL does not have, the Steam Deck has Bluetooth and massive flexibility.
You're right about indies. I've had my deck for a week now and played through Inscryption and now Mercenary Kings. The 18 buttons touchscreen, two sticks, dpad, and two touchpads can handle every game I've tried so far and with these indie titles I just don't even think about battery life or performance because I know the deck will just work.
Something changed for me after I had the deck for a couple weeks. I really expected I would use the deck mainly for AAA games, but instead I've been playing a ton of indies, and a lot of indie games I hadn't tried before on desktop.
yeah it definitely made me play games that work well with controller, something you usually don’t do as much at a desk. Minecraft is really fun on it too tho once you add a mod for steam deck controller support and some other stuff for performance. you get like 4 hours of minecraft and the touchpad is perfect for mouse input
"Can't play Nintendo exclusives" me who is playing smash ultimate on the steam deck rn
Bias: I am a steamcontroller user. My favorite thing that makes the SD my favorite console IS the controls. I love how flexible they are and how I can just tune to my preference.
I honestly found out about so many great-looking, different indie games just by watching the background footage - thanks for listing the titles of those games!
The only advantage I see SD has over windows handhelds like Aya Neo2 or GPD Winmax2 is the price but I guess that's the add on costs for EGPU support, fingerprint sensor, hall effect joytsticks, more usbports, bezel less display, bigger default storage, windows 11 support etc.
I love the fact you actually named the games on the video that are playing, so when I get my steam deck I'll get them and install those right away!
I think Steam Deck is helping to reinforce what Switch did and that was to bring top titles to handhelds. I see this as the way forward. Elden Ring on the subway or airplane is an awesome proposition.
Great outlook! Honestly though, I couldn't help but wonder what game you're playing throughout the beginning, looks interesting!
One thing that I haven't heard many people mention is backwards compatibility. Every single Steam Deck game will be compatible with a Steam Deck 2 or 3 or 4 etc. They're compatible with most any computer or laptop. Sony, Microsoft, and especially Nintendo can't come close to saying that.
I mean you say you can’t get Nintendo exclusives on a steam deck but I am playing the new Pokémon game on the steam deck but it’s a secret and it’s a pain in the ass to get it to start working
Well I wouldn’t say that they’re unfinished sure they were some things that some people thought was important and it wasn’t included but you can’t really predict what’s gonna go wrong and for valve to be updating on a regular basis to fix issues and read the complaints of people they were like hey I’m having this problem and then they fix it it’s pretty awesome.
"I mean you say you can’t get Nintendo exclusives on a steam deck but I am playing the new Pokémon game"
To be fair - I also said "emulation notwithstanding"
To me the touchpads are the killer feature. Being able to set up touch based control pop up menus are awesome to get additional buttons/controls so it’s like you have unlimited buttons to assign to controls.
It’s way too early to speculate but there’s a huge number of people like myself that have not turned their switch on since they got a steam deck. Will we go back?
My bad, I’ve been watching every video you put out, and I just realized I wasn’t already subscribed! Just subbed 😁
All good! ♥️♥️
10:34 same. I was a console gamer for years before I got into pc gaming and I have no idea how I was able to play shooters with a controller. I've tried recently and I just can't go back to that, it feels so bad and wrong.
I don't consider either console to be in competition. Valve clearly doesn't either, as they just released Portal 1/2 on Switch, and Nintendo was more than happy to advertise the games in their Directs. However, I do consider the Steam Deck to be a legitimate competitor against the Windows PC. As Windows further walls its garden as they say, more and more PC enthusiasts, developers and engineers may want to move over to Linux in the future. But as it was even a few years ago, it would have been about impossible to convince PC Gamers to move to Linux as the vast majority of titles lacked real support. First they introduced Steam to Linux, then SteamOS, and now the Steam Deck, all to basically convince developers that Windows, isn't the only OS out there.
With something as big and exciting as the Steam Deck, more and more developers will rush to have their game supported in Linux, and overtime, Windows will either have to back out of some of their practices, or start to lose more and more if their install base.
I agree with your closing conclusion mostly except I think that over time as switch emulation gets even better, some people (like me) would rather get a steam deck than a switch. Steam deck just has wayyy more value and it’s honestly hard for me to justify buying another nintendo console when I can hopefully emulate all of them on the steam deck. I also would rather be in valves hands bc at least their platform is more open than nintendos walled garden.
EDIT: I guess 1 reason to get a switch is if there are specific games you like to play online on or with a group.
There’s also the performance aspect. The Switch essentially runs on good-quality tablet hardware, while Steam Deck runs on gaming-grade components. No black magic developer voodoo needed to run AAA games on a limited platform.
The controller button lay out was definitely something that took time for me to get used too. But once I did I can switch between it and an xbox controller without a second thought. Once the muscle memory is there it's a great lay out. Hell it's BETTER than a standard controller once you get used to adding gyro controls for when you play shooters. You just have to be willing to try something new. :)
The thing I do see people talk about enough with switch vs deck is that if I buy a non Nintendo game on switch, I don't know the future of my ability to play that game years from now. But with the deck my library will grow with me.
Would love if your vocals were just a bit higher compared to the other audio. It can be a bit hard to hear you if I’m not using headphones 🖤
No point buying a switch when you can emulate
I actually love the fact that because of the deck you got to start a TH-cam channel. And your content has been good from the beginning. Valve nailed it by giving you a deck early I'm glad everything turned out the way it did because we have you know in the TH-cam community :)
That really means a lot! Thank you so much! I'm super happy to have started this channel.
@@FanTheDeck keep doing the good work
It's a very good channel with interesting ideas and things to know and learn. I was here from the beginning when I searched for SteamDeck related content and came back ever since. The channel has matured well and i'm glad he took the advice and stopped with the one thing I did not like about the videos ;) Smart man , good channel, good content, gratz with the 17.3k followers, well deserved, keep it up!
I've been playing an old game from 2000 called Majesty on my steam deck. I had trouble getting it to run properly on my windows PC but steam deck ran it perfect right away, and the touch pads work perfectly for that game. Also I installed a texture mod for GTA San andreas and I was worried it would be a pain but it was actually very easy and took maybe 15 mins total with no past Linux experience. I got my steam deck like a week ago, but its got a dead pixel and a slightly squishy trigger so I might get an rma but I just love playing the thing I don't wanna spend another week without one.
I am so hyped! Perfect video as I just paid for my preorder today! Can't wait to start setting up Emudeck!
I wasn't initially sure about the touch pads. However after 6 hours of getting audio to work on Windows 11. I can confidently say, I will never need a mouse for my deck. It's so amazing for just general use on windows. As for whether it replaces analog sticks for me, well time will tell.
I got a reservation yesterday, Q4 is looking bright for me!
I think your opinion is great! Touching in the game verification, I would love to see valve come out with a community tested verification system to steam games. This would absolutely make it easier to decide if you would wanna try a untested game. You could see the community that has tried it has had 0 issues playing in the deck or alot of issues. This would help so much. Valve could actually use that data to say oh these 1500 games run perfect on the deck already, let's verify that quickly then move on to games that need some work. With so many games avaible through steam, this could actually take some load off the testers at valve. Plus if there was an easy tweak needed for some games you could have something like this, "x amount of people deemed playable, but follow the community provided instructions to run this game".
I was surprised how light the deck is. And being able to use any controller and headset is a god send. The versatility of being able to run majority of games is mind boggling.
I agree! I jumped from PC gaming to consoles years ago and dismissed the Deck as an impractical niche device a year ago. I preordered one still since...gamer...lol and am due to get one between now and September. The more vids I've seen of the device (emulation vids, being more powerful than my current PC, highlighting Steam benefits, including PC games I do still play like Football Manager), the more I've changed my mind and I'm actually excited to have the device now! Ordered my Sandisk 1tb SD card for it on Prime Day lol
Congrats, make sure your M-Sd card is classed U-2 or higher, it will be fast enough for use, the U-1 work but slow the system down.
No Nintendo exclusives, hmm? I’m celebrating the arrival of mine by playing the new Metroid. Next, I plan to play the new Zelda.
Nice
Awesome video as always. I just got my shipping email for my steam deck, not long before I get one in my hands.
Wooohooo!
I really hope when it comes to PC SteamOS will be a open os for gamers that just works. And makes Linux grow for people who want to dig beneath it to realize they can do whatever they want and they can get more if they want to by switching to a different os and tinker and have fun that way. I hope it gets people interested in Linux and open source and Foss software and make them realize how important it is and how it can make us happier and better people.
I seriously doubt Steam Deck will convince people to switch to Linux. I know it hasn't convinced me, if anything it convinced me that I don't want Linux on my PC. I can see that Steam has done good job to ensure many games run, but it often seems that this all works not because of Linux but despite Linux.
@@marekkedzierski8237 not at all the case. It works because of Linux. This would not be possible with windows.
@@marekkedzierski8237 valve would not have choose Linux if it didn't enable this.
@@marekkedzierski8237 but maybe you should try out Linux. Not because it can do everything that windows can do or is easy for a user coming from windows. See MacOS is far inferior to Linux yet 15% of laptops use it? Why not because it's better because, no it's on a good hardware platform it is also is pushed by the most valuable brand of the world. From the capabilitys Linux or bsd based operating systems are far superior. Look what Linux has accomplished with a franction of the money that Microsoft poured into windows. It's far easier to understand and too Learn. The command line isn't hard for most people it's just new. I thought the command line is hard now i this k it's very easy and I prefer it for many tasks. Because i can do everything i need in 1 window. Sure 99% of what i use is still a gui. But creating and deleting partitions and installing software i do it all via the command line. Also what is so great about it? I can just automate everything I want to do. I want to update the system well i press a hotkey j want to do anything because everything is open source and everything is just there i can do everything as i want too. And sure it's a bit hacky but that's not a problem. Once you initially learned how to use open software it's super easy. In the future we will have to ask us the question do we want to control our PC our let our PC control us. And for me there is no in-between. In the future tech illiteracy will be like being an analphabetic person rn. It will be necessary to function in society. Why not become a part of that rn. You have nothing to lose. It's an investment into your future. it's a investment into a better future. You don't even sacrifice anything anymore. You just sacrifice a bit of convienience.
7:16 what game is that? It looks cool
I think you made an error at 7:40 because both the PS5 and Xbox series can use Dualshock 4 and Xbox one controllers respectively.
Sadly the DS4 only works with PS4 games on PS5. There's no reason it couldn't work with PS5 games on PS5. This was a pain because I wanted to play the PS5 version of Sackboy (looks better) with my kid but couldn't use the DS4. So I either had to buy a new DualSense (70 USD) or play the PS4 version on the PS5. I ended up buying a used DualSense so that stung a lot less but a DS4 would have been just fine in that scenario.
@@FanTheDeck just tested it on Ghost of Tsushima and yeah you're right. Didn't know this but it's pretty dumb that you can't for no reason other than Sony wanting people to buy more DualSense controllers. Btw great vid.
@@Code_GR Thanks Code! And yeah it sucks. I was hoping I was actually wrong and there was some sort of update I missed. Thanks for checking!
I FINALLY got my order on this Thursday, can't wait till I get it.
Why every youtubers go...Elden Ring, Cyberpunk, Its not the first thing i will do. I don't buy crap games with bugs. They probably updated a bit, but there are so many good games.
When I tried Bluetooth audio on Switch the audio was delayed, out of sync.
What I like about the Steam Deck is the popularity means developers will likely start taking a step back from pushing for higher and higher end hardware, and start targeting that 800p, 30-40fps gaming space, which is great for me. I think game graphics kindof peaked around 2015-2017 with games like Metal Gear Solid V, Nier: Automata, The Witcher 3, Arkham Knight...great looking games that still hold up today.
I really can’t wait for mine, emulation is definitely something that I want to learn to do because I want to play OG games on the deck.
Valve/Steam has downgraded the SSD Card ON the next shipments of steamdecks without informing the customers that are waiting ....any thoughts on this subject ........???
Hey!! I actually give my thoughts on that in this video: th-cam.com/video/_XFc_eKy5Mo/w-d-xo.html
Fan The Deck: "Nintendo exclusives will never come to Steam Deck"
Me: laughs as I play Metroid Dread using Yuzu on Steam Deck
The d-pad is uncomfortable for me to use on the steam deck. Also, I find that it’s high position causes me to make a lot of incorrect directional inputs in retro games.
I kinda want to buy a SteamDeck. But I want a water tight one cause i have ocd and bathe everything i touch in ethanol. Actually i don't want a water tight one i want to be healed from my ocd. but it's so difficult. I just can't
I can't imagine what that's like - do you know others with OCD that you can talk to? I imagine it would be helpful to be able to talk about it at the very least.
@@FanTheDeck i have been dealing with it for years now. It's probably a way to cope for me. Other may use alcohol or other drugs. This is pretty much my drug. Allthough there is nothing enjoyable about it. It pretty much hinders me to improve my life in anyway. Because getting anything done requires twice the work. When I come home i need to shower for example before using my PC and I also disinfect my peripherals with Ethanol. Luckely these simple electrics don't mind it too much. I am already getting help but it's still like seemingly impossible for me to get rid of it. Because as soon as I don't strictly follow my ocd a immense feeling of stress is rushing through me it feels like being held at gunpoint. Sometimes i do manage do stand my ground and it's temporarily better. But sometimes i crumble and lose all control. you don't wish ocd your worst enemy. Because it ruins your life. It's like a disability. I mean some things are worse and some things are better. I mean I have the hope that i might heal from it one day but that means for the time being i know i could live a great life but for some stupid reason i can't. It also sucks out all my energy. Everything feels like a chore. Literally anything even eating or going to sleep. It's kind of a checking and egg problem. I need a good life so i don't have to cope anymore but I can't get a good life because i am coping. So i have to do baby steps but it's so easy to lose track of progress in that and accidentally take step backwards and it grinds away at your will. I probably need someone to point a actuall gun at me and force me to stop. But I would probably react with Aggression and i really don't want to because it would be alot of pain. Healing from ocd is basically torture. So you kinda try to spread it out. But it's hard to convince yourself to torture yourself. If there would be like a medicine that could disable pain. That would be awesome but that doesn't exist. I mean I could try extreme measures like taking a shit ton of LSD and getting my brain rearranged but who knows what could happen to me. I don't want more problems and in my country there is only 1 Doctor offering therapy with it and it's hard to be approved. What i basically do to bear the pain of ocd is watch TH-cam all day or play videos games, eat, jack off, sleep whatever is the easiest to do rn. If i have the money i will visit my parents because that's very enjoyable too. I just need something to occupie my brain with. Some sort of stimulation. It's so hard to do work of any kind because this initial phase of starting work doing something that your brain isn't used too is boring. There isn't alot of stimulation in that. For like 20 minutes you are just there exposed to your body and your mind you start feeling the weight of your mind because you can't hind from it anymore cause ther ist nothing to distract you, that's very painful for me. So if i do work i never do it without doing something else at the same time. It's literally impossible for me but even that way it's still painful because all the preparations i have to do. I can't even use pen and paper it's like if you have to smash your hands with a hammer before starting to write. Honestly i rather have that quirck than what i have rn.
@@FanTheDeck but yeah thanks for asking. It's kind of nice to be able to vent sometimes.
@@durschfalltv7505 Thank you for writing that. It gives some semblance of what it must be like for you and I get stress and pain just reading it so yeah. I pray for a cure. Re: LSD, I've heard that there have been a lot of studies recently about microdosing psilocybin and the benefits that it may bring. That is absolutely not medical advice and I imagine that it is exceedingly difficult to do in a country with only one doctor offering therapy. But I do pray that some cures and mitigations are found. Thanks again for sharing your story.
I'm waiting to get my SteamDeck, but for me I kinda look at the SteamDeck as a Switch Pro of sorts. I recently played Neon White on Switch but if I had my Deck I'd had played on that same for a few indies and stuff like Persona 4 Golden etc
Yall remember about 10 years ago people were saying nobody wants to play triple A games on a handheld, that's why the vita failed, people want quick indie like games on the go, phones are taking over????
The whole time I hated this take....im glad to see there is a market for this type of handheld gaming, because I'm not a huge fan of quick burst type of phone games...
ill mainly use my deck as a switch with emulation
The only real disadvantage I’ve noticed for the steam deck is just that the games I’m interested in playing that are playable on steam deck are relatively limited. Still, more games will be playable over time which will make it more accessible and popular in the future.
Most of the games on my deck are untested or said not to work, they do but some required some work to get them running. Type " this game on the steam deck" in the TH-cam search box, if it can run, someone will show you how to make it work on yours.
If Steamdeck would be a smartphone, then Switch would be a dial phone. It is obvious Switch will die out rather sooner then later, not because the deck is here but because SteamOS is. One can only imagine how many companies will give their own spin on the Deck with that very well polished free OS. Switch will die, not because SteamDeck killed it, but because every descendent of it will. Some switch games even struggle to be played on the device they are made for... Rip Nintendo and their expensive closed envirement
That wont happen for awhile
Steamdeck will never be a hit with the casual players. They will stick to Nintendo. Also Steamdeck doesn't have Mario, zelda, smash Bros, Splatoon, Mario party, animal crossing, Pokémon. Etc.
@@erwinekkel9676 SteamDeck won't be a hit with the casuals, because its a very new first gen device that needs some thinkering to work as intended. But be sure that everything that will come after Deck will be a hit because the OS will become better and better and will go more towards the console experience for the casual players. To be clear on my SteamDeck I have Mario, zelda, Mario party, Pokémon. Etc. emulated, which works perfectly fine and don't forget, SteamDeck now can emulate Switch games so its only a matter of time before I will have Smash Bros, Splatoon and Animal crossing on my Deck :)
The Switch is unlikely to be Nintendo's last device. They certainly have a successor in the works, and knowing Nintendo it will have some gimmick which might or might not be a hit.
Also, the Switch currently has advantages:
* Nintendo exclusives. Nintendo makes some of the biggest games in the console market, that's not changing any time soon. While I understand emulation is a thing, the most natural place people will go to play their Nintendo games is on a Nintendo system - currently the Switch.
* Price. The Switch remains cheaper than the Steam Deck, especially if you consider the entire lineup of both devices.
* Ease of use. Just pop in a cartridge and start playing.
* Name recognition and marketing: Nintendo is a much larger brand than Valve, and they pour a lot more money into marketing. I see Nintendo ads all over the place, can't say the same for Valve.
I don't plan on trashing my Switch when I get a Steam Deck, as I love Nintendo's games and don't want to go to dark corners of the internet to get copies of games. I also think good developers deserve to put food on their tables, so I don't mind paying for Nintendo's games.
@@logicalfundy I completely agree with this. The steam deck will not significantly impact switch sales. They also need to be readily available. This is why I think the steam deck 2/3 will be a major hit as opposed to the current one. Enough time to iron out the problems, make it more user friendly and available and it will do well. Just like the Oculus Quest2 did over the first.
The controller layout for the deck didn't take long for me adjust at all. And the back buttons are so helpful. I'm still tweaking the gyro settings cause that's something Nintendo nailed with the joycons.
0:06 So nobody is going to address the background picture ? lol
The Switch is a console and the Steam Deck is a pc handheld. What's there not to understand ? Both are great but they do different things.
I got a Deck for 2 weeks now and metal Jesus review is the one that resonate with me the most. Replaying games of the Xbox 360 and ps2 era is what feels the most natural on the deck for some reason. BioShock, racedriver grid, Pikmin, f-zero gx, ssx tricky, burnout 3 and so on.
I found your segment on the track pads especially interesting. I've not found a good game yet to really sink my teeth into learning to use them as a mouse. In fact, I've been avoiding games that are mouse heavy (Terraria, Factorio, Satisfactory...) because of the track pads. I would try the Sims 4 as that one guy did in his video segment but I didn't get the Origin store working yet on my deck. You claimed that you prefer the pads more than the joysticks in some games that you play. What is a great game to use as a learning tool when it comes to learning to use the track pads? I've tried a few but get so frustrated that I end up quitting rather quickly.
Try any first person rpg between Dagerfall and Skyrim
Right pad to aim / look and left pad as touch menu (for all weird shortcuts)
I'm currently amassing hours in Dagerfall Unity and touch menu for things like map / travel / rest / logbook menu shortcuts is godsend. Also tes games never really required twitch-reflexes aiming in combat, so there's that
I like JM's comment. I haven't tried a first person RPG on Steam Deck or Steam Controller but that makes a lot of sense. I kind of jumped in the deep end to be honest. I played DOOM 2016 on a Steam Controller and that started me down that road.
You know what I'd actually recommend though. An older FPS remaster. Something like DOOM 64, Quake or Turok. These are easier but still a ton of fun and require less vertical aiming.
Modded Minecraft is the perfect crash course to Steam input mapping. I have a steam controller, so not the exact same. Theres so many inputs, random buttons, different GUI cases, it's the most complicated input, yet also the lowest stakes. Now I play modded minecraft on the couch with a controller, and I might be the only person who can do that lol. I reccomend any casual open world first person game
Some people don't really get that steam deck isn't a traditional portable console but a traditional pc in a budget portable format that brings almost endless flexibility
Once Steam can get publishers to optimize their games for the SD, in file size, performance and offline playable single player games (glaring at you EA), SD is gonna explode. Until then tho, it's more of a companion for the Switch and games I can't play there. I have roughly 300 digital downloaded games on my Switch. But SD has only 66 on More storage, entirely because of the file size.
I really hope more of them optimize file sizes specifically for people who download the game on Steam Decks since they don't need 4k textures or any other data that's useless so that the file sizes aren't massively inflated. But I really don't see many doing that sadly :/
I love the cnc games on my deck, it blows my mind every time i play red alert, beautiful and easy to pick up. Portably :D
My favourite game on the deck is trying to get the optimal battery life and performance possible out of every title. Like honestly, I’m finding that way more fun than I should.
I would like to see a video on game storage options. like ssd upgrade, external usb ssd, sd card flash, power injection with external storage, with actual use cases like In built steam games, emulators, non steam games like the epic patch store as power and storage are the to main ghost in the machine people have mentioned, my deck is almost here (64gb) so i would like to look at upgrades and longevity
9:23 now for me the thumbstick placement is fine as personally I hate the Xbox layout, I grew up using the PlayStation controller so having them in line just feels right also the are exactly where your thumbs will rest while holding the device so that’s another plus for me.
Highly recommend the the game “Visage” if you like P.T. Like games. It plays pretty well and in bed it makes it all the more creepier